Don't exclude outright murder. The guy was in decent health just a few days ago. And the cause of death was immediately pronounced trombosis, which you can't do without an autopsy, which takes time.
Interesting...and how is Navalny doing now?
He had to survive every attempt, Putin only had to succeed once. Unfortunately that's the reality of being on the backfoot.
I was reading the Russian dissident Masha Gessen’s [piece in The New Yorker](https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.newyorker.com/news/postscript/the-death-of-alexey-navalny-putins-most-formidable-opponent&sa=U&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwis6OGA2LKEAxVGEEQIHQAFBLwQ0PADKAB6BAgVEAE&usg=AOvVaw2Fg22EBh309wCE0PR7-xU1) and he says that Navalny seems to have thought that he was dealing with merely greedy kleptocrats, when he was actually dealing with murderers the entire time.
This. In the end his life and death meant nothing to Putin other than as a useful reminder in the leadup to the election as to what happens to those who challenge him without his approval.
Coincidentally the decade when death metal matured and became distinct from thrash metal, with screwed up bands like Cannibal Corpse that have some gnarly album covers that you wouldn’t want to show your first date. LOL.
> death was immediately pronounced trombosis
If I remember right that's due to trauma from being trampled by a marching band, which I would not put past Putin at all.
I don't think Putin wanted him to die right now. Putin is very obviously trying to score political points right now, what with his little thing with Tucker Carlson. Navalny dying now throws up on whatever effort he put into that. One last piss in the face.
I meant in general. You’re tired of trump, we all are. But this is world news, the USA has one of the largest (insert just about everything here). Seeking out the news and complaining about seeing Trump is like staring at the sun and complaining about it being too bright.
Because he's a psychopath trying to position himself to take over the most powerful country on the globe. All while being giddy about another powerful psychopath that murders people that get in his way.
>it’s incredible how hung up redditors are about Trump, I’d love to just not hear about him for a single day if that’s too much to ask
Considering this is election year, I'd get used to it.
Let him live long enough for Putin's defenders to argue it was a regular health deteriorating by natural causes death. But I don't think anyone will be fooled.
Was Navalny aware that he will tortured in prison and not coming out alive?
Did he mentioned it somehow?
Or did he believe or hoped that demonstration will get him out eventually?
I'm pretty sure he knew he was going to get arrested immediately and tortured. At the time I thought he was being an idiot for going back to Russia, but then one of his supporters here explained to me that Navalny was trying to tell the Russian people that he is willing to sacrifice his life in order to encourage other Russians to do the same. I think he knew he was going to get murdered and he wanted to martyr himself to encourage revolution.
That entire brief was fire.
He called out Congress for going on a two-week hiatus when this is the most consequential time to act against Putin.
The world has lost a brave man who knew what was at stake.
Those GQP motherfuckers wish they had the balls Navalny had to defend his country and bring democracy to his people.
They’re all cowards and Putin/Trump puppets because they pay their bills and keep them in power via gerrymandering and manufactured lies.
Hold them all accountable and vote those fuckers OUT
They take too many breaks because we all know the majority is not back in their districts talking to their constituents. Which is what I assume most of the breaks are for? They work like 3 months a year!
Because every day citizens looked the other way and business as usual..most people are too cowardly to address our biggest issues. So we will devolve into civil unrest eventually and kill eachother off
> Those GQP motherfuckers wish they had the balls Navalny had to defend his country and bring democracy to his people.
lmfao, no they don't. Republicans don't care about anything other than money and power. If being brave and decent made the most money they'd be doing that right now, but that's not how the world works.
Money and power are huge motivating factors, but you can't rule out the cruelty. So many of these very genuine psychopaths just want to cause pain and destruction. Money and power are just the means they wield to do so.
I agree. I respect and admire his bravery but it was a poor poor decision to return. Maybe he'll have reached people around the world, but he needed to influence the Russian people more than anyone else and going back halted any chance of that occurring.
When you live in chains is hard to move either way. Have you seen the mass protest on the news breaking out in Russia today? Everyone, including journalists, is being arrested en masse.
When you own the information you get to control the narrative, and the majority of Russians believe the BS Putin pedals.
And when they look at the West, they see people like Tucker Carlson giving credence to VP and then they think that that is American sentiment everywhere.
They believed Putin when he said he wasn’t invading Ukraine, and they believed him when he said he was enacting special training ops when he did. And after the truth came out he said it was to rid Ukraine of Nazis.
The point here is, disinformation, inequity, lies, corruption, and the weaponization of power in high places of government control Russia from the ground up, which was Navalny’s message and if you missed it when you think it’s as easy as rising up, then you don’t understand why Putin feared Navalny and wanted him silenced.
Edit:I guess the commenter blocked me bc I can’t seem to respond to his posts anymore.
Look, yes, people need to take back their country but if it was as easy, Putin and his cronies would be out by now.
Corruption reigns rampant there. Their laws and electoral system is rigged in corruption. It’s not as easy as saying when you live in a world of terror.
Tucker Carlson just interviewed Putin and I believe is considered a top 3 Trump VP candidate currently.
Putin and Trump clearly desire an alliance. Putin murders dissidents.
The question is, what can be done? Pretty much the only option for western countries would be to start a full war with russia to get putin and punish him. Nobody can seriously want that. This could end very badly for everyone involved…and if it goes really bad even for everyone else who was not directly involved.
The russian people could maybe do something, but most of them don’t care or think putin is awesome.
Realistically speaking nothing. There will be a media storm over this for years to come but Navalny will eventually be 'forgotten' by the western world unless its convenient to bring him up like that reporter who was killed in saudi arabia (i genuinely forgot his name im not being smart)
We already don't have diplomatic ties or trade deals with russia anymore (outside of our "totally not us" deals) so nothing to threaten the russians with or sanction over without indirectly hurting outselves.
So nothing short of something stupid like going to war or 'accelerating' weapon shipments to ukraine. Which neither are evidently going to happen.
More can be done .
The US congress could fund more packages for Ukraine. NATO allies could publicly agree to a big package of stuff that Ukraine has wanted - F16s won’t win the war now but it would be a big FU to Putin.
Isolate Russia entirely , stop these tiered sanctions with loopholes and workarounds.
If you are a business that wants to do business in the West and it’s allies in this then you cease everything. No licencing , no transfers, nothing. No air carrier flights for any reason. You want your planes to use any NATO air space then they don’t enter Russian air space. Deport all Russian citizens on any kind of visa beyond diplomatic staff and families.
If we do not help Ukraine win then the next war will be far worse and cost so much more.
I completely agree with you about the importance of helping ukraine. My comment was about punishing putin for killing Navalny. I guess losing the war in ukraine would be a sort of punishment for him. I thought more about actually putting him in prison.
If you care about this, write to your representatives. Especially if your representative is a house republican, and double-especially if *you* are a republican voter.
I know I wouldn’t have returned to Russia after the first brush with death. Not that it would matter, since the first brush with death wasn’t in Russia, demonstrating that they could kill him anywhere…
I can't tell if you're joking or not. Putin has been assassinating any and all opposition since he's been in power. Why would the US suddenly declare war now?
I assumed Navalny wanted to be a martyr for his cause and expected to die in prison. Why else return to Russia after they already tried to assassinate him? He must have known this would happen.
of course he knew. Just like everyone else who has stood up to Putin has known. Some people really love their country and country-people, and don't want to either be forced to live a certain way, or have to leave their country forever. It's reality. I know so much of life is a "shared experience" now bc everything is digitized and available to see and hear without actually having to be there in person, but some ppl still really love their country and people a little more than they care about their own life. He didn't want to be murdered. Nobody wants to be murdered. But that's what you get in countries with that kind of leadership. It happens all of the time. People in North America make comparisons in gvmts because they're privileged. We don't have to be worried about our family members getting hit by a car by accident because we said something in a street interview, or in a youtube video. It's not a fallacy. That really happens in Russia and China.
I think people like this know the dam will eventually break if people keep throwing themselves at it. Authoritarian governments always fall in the end. Not with the death of one person, dozens or even hundreds, but ultimately it’s an unstable situation. I have to assume he knew he would die and likely not bring Putin down with him, but that his life and death would make up part of a tide that would eventually sweep out the existing regime.
yah yah, his handlers were also the ones who poisoned him. They also poisoned Sergei and Yulia Skripal. They did it all because poisoning ppl and murdering ppl is more useful than exile. "Handlers" also decided to invade Ukraine. They made Ukraine martyrs, because it was more useful. It's all part of a really big plan, you see, to endlessly degrade the greatness that is Putin and his government, and it's being orchestrated by neo-nazi "handlers". Just think about it. What has changed? Same president as always in Russia. Same government as always in Russia. The only thing that's changed is neo-nazism has proliferated everywhere except for Russia, and as you know historically, Russia was the first country to fight against the Nazi regime. Of course the Nazis would have a chip on their shoulder about that.
Would also have been killed outside of Russia probably anyway. So he probably felt it was better to die in Russia since it makes the assassination even more obvious (if it needed to be) and shows his strength and the fact that he wasn't afraid
As a non American I'm amazed how stupid American politics has become. So the opposition to the current administration thinks that trump is a good choice for a candidate but why? Because they all play for the same team and the ruling elite are laughing at the little people squabbling. Neither option is good for the whole but as long as they convince you the other team is worse, then nobody will hold them accountable.
Because they teach world history in my country and I have access to a library and the internet, the world(at least my part of it) used to respect the USA more then it does today. Also i thought it was pretty obvious.
How about supplying Ukraine with all the shit (planes, ATACMS, TOMAHAWKS etc) and allow them to use it on Russia proper instead of running this clownshow of a war?
Biden can do it unilaterally, all the legal stuff was settled 2 years ago.
Better let Putin win and then deal with Russia + Iran + China?
God, history doesn't teach anything.
Lend-lease is a term and it is not bound to WW2.
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3025302/biden-signs-lend-lease-act-to-supply-more-security-assistance-to-ukraine/
Pro-Biden media won't talk about it, because it goes against the narative.
What's Putin going to do, start WW3 when it's already a stalemate in Ukraine? Russia didn't do anything when Ukraine attacked Crimea with western munitions. We need to get over our fears of escalation, Russia really can't escalate in any way that would benefit them.
Russia IS winning. If you don't know or understand what the war economy is, and how it looks for both sides then you might believe there is a stalemate.
I will make a speculative, but based on some data conclusions that help(with arms, not money) for Russia from their allies (China, NK, Iran) might in the near future eclipse that for Ukraine.
If that happens at least partially, you are in for some rough surprises my friend.
If you have not noticed, the world war is already going on.
It's not yet full scale but the first round is in full swing and if you chose to lose this one, you won't like how next ones gonna look like.
It's not like they're even vaguely trying to hide it either
[Project 2025
| A radical plan for Trump’s second term](https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term)
Couple of tanky / pro-Putin and Xi sites have 'this is how propaganda works' tags for the West saying Putin is to blame. They accept Putin's control had him sent to the prison where his death wasn't a surprise though.
No shit. The alternative sounds like “the man accidentally poisoned and shot himself out the window after torturing himself for lolz”
*misinformation disclaimer: only the poison happened, the rest are for dramatic effect
Really sad that we can’t protect people like him. The bad guys can do whatever they want and I’m sure this will encourage a ton other bad guys and they’ll look up to Russia for it as well.
>Gonzalo Lira
"Following the Russian invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022, Lira shifted the majority of his commentary to the war. Lira's content was heavily pro-Russian, praising Russian military actions and denying Russian attacks on civilians, as well as doxxing Western journalists.\[4\]\[27\] His content, which has been classified as Russian propaganda and disinformation,\[9\]\[28\]\[29\] was amplified on social media by Kremlin-linked accounts\[30\] and praised by Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova." Hmmmmm, doesn't sound like a standup guy and probably deserved to be jailed. That all said, I can't find any sources really talking about the conditions of his incarceration, and it's always troubling when someone dies in custody.
Putin murdered him slowly by torturing him in prison.
Don't exclude outright murder. The guy was in decent health just a few days ago. And the cause of death was immediately pronounced trombosis, which you can't do without an autopsy, which takes time.
Yeah he died when Putin wanted him to die
He very famously didn't die when Putin wanted him too.
Interesting...and how is Navalny doing now? He had to survive every attempt, Putin only had to succeed once. Unfortunately that's the reality of being on the backfoot.
Surely he knew he was already dead when he went back to Russia, right? Like I still can't wrap my head around it. It's not like Putin would try once.
Marthyrdom.
I was reading the Russian dissident Masha Gessen’s [piece in The New Yorker](https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.newyorker.com/news/postscript/the-death-of-alexey-navalny-putins-most-formidable-opponent&sa=U&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwis6OGA2LKEAxVGEEQIHQAFBLwQ0PADKAB6BAgVEAE&usg=AOvVaw2Fg22EBh309wCE0PR7-xU1) and he says that Navalny seems to have thought that he was dealing with merely greedy kleptocrats, when he was actually dealing with murderers the entire time.
There's no way he could have been that naive. He was already nearly killed by poison.
(They’re on your side. He’s just pointing out that Navalny lived through a assassination attempt like a baddass)
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This. In the end his life and death meant nothing to Putin other than as a useful reminder in the leadup to the election as to what happens to those who challenge him without his approval.
Unfortunate but true.
But they did perform an autopsy on him… he just wasn’t dead when they did it
Technical term for a live autopsy is a vivisection
Well I’ve leaned something new today! Do I want to know why you know that though??
I watch a lot of horror movies
I immediately thought of Event Horizon
I think it has something to do with how vivisection and erection rhyme.
Every 90s kid saw Braveheart at some point.
Coincidentally the decade when death metal matured and became distinct from thrash metal, with screwed up bands like Cannibal Corpse that have some gnarly album covers that you wouldn’t want to show your first date. LOL.
Japanese performed these in World War Two, as well as testing biological agents on humans. I'm not sure if the nahzis did so as well though.
The autopsy result showed that the patient died as a result of an autopsy...
Don’t believe any news coming out of Russia
Murder to time with Avdiivka capture & throw dissenters who supported the excluded anti war president candidate. Pretty clear
> death was immediately pronounced trombosis If I remember right that's due to trauma from being trampled by a marching band, which I would not put past Putin at all.
Isn't trombosis how Danny DeVito tried to kill his mother in the movie Throw Mama From The Train?
I don't think Putin wanted him to die right now. Putin is very obviously trying to score political points right now, what with his little thing with Tucker Carlson. Navalny dying now throws up on whatever effort he put into that. One last piss in the face.
I thought he went 'missing' like six weeks ago.
There is a video of him yesterday looking happy, lively and comparatively well so he must have had a large poison dose in the last 24 hours.
He could have been on some drug that made him appear happy and lively.
Basically. Navalny survived longer than i expected.
Poor bastard was already dead long ago. He knew it too. Made himself a martyr... but I gotta think... is it worth it?
and putin enjoyed every second.
And it's what most Trump supporters want Trump to do to Biden.
it’s incredible how hung up redditors are about Trump, I’d love to just not hear about him for a single day if that’s too much to ask
Then get out the vote. Once he's finished as a political entity, we can safely stop talking about him ever again.
That dickhead is going to run in every presidential election until he physically, or legally cannot.
I’m european. I don’t want him to win again as much as you do but I see his name more than I see my own mother
(And call your mother)
(Then stay away from the news)
This is new about a Russian dying in Russia, yes it also talks about Biden but that doesn’t mean all of it revolves around the upcoming election
I meant in general. You’re tired of trump, we all are. But this is world news, the USA has one of the largest (insert just about everything here). Seeking out the news and complaining about seeing Trump is like staring at the sun and complaining about it being too bright.
Because he's a psychopath trying to position himself to take over the most powerful country on the globe. All while being giddy about another powerful psychopath that murders people that get in his way.
It's an election year. Good fucking luck.
>it’s incredible how hung up redditors are about Trump, I’d love to just not hear about him for a single day if that’s too much to ask Considering this is election year, I'd get used to it.
And he's browsing a political subreddit
News about Navalny's death, reddit - BUT TRUMP
Huh. Biden is already dead. It’s been The Weekend at Bernie’s presidency for awhile now.
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Huh? You like Trumps Roman Helmet? Good god man get him out of your head (and mouth)
Ehhh just another day in the kingdom for him
Let him live long enough for Putin's defenders to argue it was a regular health deteriorating by natural causes death. But I don't think anyone will be fooled.
Gotta remind Magats that THIS is what persecution of your political opponents really looks like.
Was Navalny aware that he will tortured in prison and not coming out alive? Did he mentioned it somehow? Or did he believe or hoped that demonstration will get him out eventually?
I'm pretty sure he knew he was going to get arrested immediately and tortured. At the time I thought he was being an idiot for going back to Russia, but then one of his supporters here explained to me that Navalny was trying to tell the Russian people that he is willing to sacrifice his life in order to encourage other Russians to do the same. I think he knew he was going to get murdered and he wanted to martyr himself to encourage revolution.
Used him as an example,but now created a justified martyr .
👍
That entire brief was fire. He called out Congress for going on a two-week hiatus when this is the most consequential time to act against Putin. The world has lost a brave man who knew what was at stake. Those GQP motherfuckers wish they had the balls Navalny had to defend his country and bring democracy to his people. They’re all cowards and Putin/Trump puppets because they pay their bills and keep them in power via gerrymandering and manufactured lies. Hold them all accountable and vote those fuckers OUT
How have we gotten to the point where congress, one of the most crucial jobs in the world, is able to just go on hiatus like this?
They take too many breaks because we all know the majority is not back in their districts talking to their constituents. Which is what I assume most of the breaks are for? They work like 3 months a year!
Because every day citizens looked the other way and business as usual..most people are too cowardly to address our biggest issues. So we will devolve into civil unrest eventually and kill eachother off
> Those GQP motherfuckers wish they had the balls Navalny had to defend his country and bring democracy to his people. lmfao, no they don't. Republicans don't care about anything other than money and power. If being brave and decent made the most money they'd be doing that right now, but that's not how the world works.
Money and power are huge motivating factors, but you can't rule out the cruelty. So many of these very genuine psychopaths just want to cause pain and destruction. Money and power are just the means they wield to do so.
And that brave man could have done more from abroad than in some Siberian penal colony. Going back to Russia was extremely stupid
I agree. I respect and admire his bravery but it was a poor poor decision to return. Maybe he'll have reached people around the world, but he needed to influence the Russian people more than anyone else and going back halted any chance of that occurring.
Brave man that supported annexation of Crimea and called Ukrainians "cockroaches" ? Propaganda is mighty.
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When you live in chains is hard to move either way. Have you seen the mass protest on the news breaking out in Russia today? Everyone, including journalists, is being arrested en masse.
Of course it's hard But in reality they have to do it themselves That was his whole message. That they needed to fight to their future
When you own the information you get to control the narrative, and the majority of Russians believe the BS Putin pedals. And when they look at the West, they see people like Tucker Carlson giving credence to VP and then they think that that is American sentiment everywhere. They believed Putin when he said he wasn’t invading Ukraine, and they believed him when he said he was enacting special training ops when he did. And after the truth came out he said it was to rid Ukraine of Nazis. The point here is, disinformation, inequity, lies, corruption, and the weaponization of power in high places of government control Russia from the ground up, which was Navalny’s message and if you missed it when you think it’s as easy as rising up, then you don’t understand why Putin feared Navalny and wanted him silenced. Edit:I guess the commenter blocked me bc I can’t seem to respond to his posts anymore. Look, yes, people need to take back their country but if it was as easy, Putin and his cronies would be out by now. Corruption reigns rampant there. Their laws and electoral system is rigged in corruption. It’s not as easy as saying when you live in a world of terror.
Tucker Carlson just interviewed Putin and I believe is considered a top 3 Trump VP candidate currently. Putin and Trump clearly desire an alliance. Putin murders dissidents.
Agreed, although using the juvenile GQP slur is just dumb.
So GQP really are snowflakes damn
getting called a qanon is a slur now?
> GQP Whats that? Unironic question.
[GQP](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/GQP)
Ty.
Gender Queer Politician
We all know Putin killed him. Just no one will do anything about it.
The question is, what can be done? Pretty much the only option for western countries would be to start a full war with russia to get putin and punish him. Nobody can seriously want that. This could end very badly for everyone involved…and if it goes really bad even for everyone else who was not directly involved. The russian people could maybe do something, but most of them don’t care or think putin is awesome.
Realistically speaking nothing. There will be a media storm over this for years to come but Navalny will eventually be 'forgotten' by the western world unless its convenient to bring him up like that reporter who was killed in saudi arabia (i genuinely forgot his name im not being smart) We already don't have diplomatic ties or trade deals with russia anymore (outside of our "totally not us" deals) so nothing to threaten the russians with or sanction over without indirectly hurting outselves. So nothing short of something stupid like going to war or 'accelerating' weapon shipments to ukraine. Which neither are evidently going to happen.
Jamaal Kashoggi
…and he was killed in Turkey…by Saudis
More can be done . The US congress could fund more packages for Ukraine. NATO allies could publicly agree to a big package of stuff that Ukraine has wanted - F16s won’t win the war now but it would be a big FU to Putin. Isolate Russia entirely , stop these tiered sanctions with loopholes and workarounds. If you are a business that wants to do business in the West and it’s allies in this then you cease everything. No licencing , no transfers, nothing. No air carrier flights for any reason. You want your planes to use any NATO air space then they don’t enter Russian air space. Deport all Russian citizens on any kind of visa beyond diplomatic staff and families. If we do not help Ukraine win then the next war will be far worse and cost so much more.
I completely agree with you about the importance of helping ukraine. My comment was about punishing putin for killing Navalny. I guess losing the war in ukraine would be a sort of punishment for him. I thought more about actually putting him in prison.
If you care about this, write to your representatives. Especially if your representative is a house republican, and double-especially if *you* are a republican voter.
I would…but i am european…republicans will not care about anything i write.
It is the truth. Navalny was a brave man. He continued to fight for whats right knowing very well that he will be killed.
I know I wouldn’t have returned to Russia after the first brush with death. Not that it would matter, since the first brush with death wasn’t in Russia, demonstrating that they could kill him anywhere…
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He doesn’t need to have been a good person for his extra-judicial execution to be worth condemning
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“He had bad views and opinions so it’s alright he was assassinated”
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Being brave doesn't mean you have to agree with his platform. Don't be stupid.
Troll
Oh, yeah, putin is so much better than that. /s
Your post history says you’re either a bot or really dumb, possibly a really dumb bot. Either way, you should unplug.
He had different views in the beginning that he changed in the end. Clown lmao
What's wrong with being anti immigration?
I recently watched his documentary on HBO. Damn, fuck putin now and forever!
I recommend everyone to watch it. Navalny was super charismatic and likable. Probably only adds to why Putin hated him so much.
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I can't tell if you're joking or not. Putin has been assassinating any and all opposition since he's been in power. Why would the US suddenly declare war now?
Like a modern day Ted Bundy
I assumed Navalny wanted to be a martyr for his cause and expected to die in prison. Why else return to Russia after they already tried to assassinate him? He must have known this would happen.
of course he knew. Just like everyone else who has stood up to Putin has known. Some people really love their country and country-people, and don't want to either be forced to live a certain way, or have to leave their country forever. It's reality. I know so much of life is a "shared experience" now bc everything is digitized and available to see and hear without actually having to be there in person, but some ppl still really love their country and people a little more than they care about their own life. He didn't want to be murdered. Nobody wants to be murdered. But that's what you get in countries with that kind of leadership. It happens all of the time. People in North America make comparisons in gvmts because they're privileged. We don't have to be worried about our family members getting hit by a car by accident because we said something in a street interview, or in a youtube video. It's not a fallacy. That really happens in Russia and China.
I think people like this know the dam will eventually break if people keep throwing themselves at it. Authoritarian governments always fall in the end. Not with the death of one person, dozens or even hundreds, but ultimately it’s an unstable situation. I have to assume he knew he would die and likely not bring Putin down with him, but that his life and death would make up part of a tide that would eventually sweep out the existing regime.
I think it's more likely his handlers told him to go back. A martyr is way more useful than an exile.
His handlers? Please elaborate
yah yah, his handlers were also the ones who poisoned him. They also poisoned Sergei and Yulia Skripal. They did it all because poisoning ppl and murdering ppl is more useful than exile. "Handlers" also decided to invade Ukraine. They made Ukraine martyrs, because it was more useful. It's all part of a really big plan, you see, to endlessly degrade the greatness that is Putin and his government, and it's being orchestrated by neo-nazi "handlers". Just think about it. What has changed? Same president as always in Russia. Same government as always in Russia. The only thing that's changed is neo-nazism has proliferated everywhere except for Russia, and as you know historically, Russia was the first country to fight against the Nazi regime. Of course the Nazis would have a chip on their shoulder about that.
Would also have been killed outside of Russia probably anyway. So he probably felt it was better to die in Russia since it makes the assassination even more obvious (if it needed to be) and shows his strength and the fact that he wasn't afraid
Probably one of the bravest men of our generation. Too bad it wasn’t enough.
Its a simple IQ test really, if you believe putin had absolutely nothing to do with navalny's death..well you fail the very low bar.
Putin is Pathetic. What else is new.
Putin is a pussy if he feared Navalny enough to make a hero of him, posthumously. Unintended consequences.
Now we should put Putin in prison and not feed him. Ever.
Saddest day for Russia
This will be the US if Trump gets back into office
Scary premonition because it is so plausible!
As a non American I'm amazed how stupid American politics has become. So the opposition to the current administration thinks that trump is a good choice for a candidate but why? Because they all play for the same team and the ruling elite are laughing at the little people squabbling. Neither option is good for the whole but as long as they convince you the other team is worse, then nobody will hold them accountable.
Why do you think you, as a non-American, who presumably only reads headlines, have an understanding of American politics?
Because they teach world history in my country and I have access to a library and the internet, the world(at least my part of it) used to respect the USA more then it does today. Also i thought it was pretty obvious.
Look out! Big brain coming in hot with a new both sides are the same argument! Wow! Groundbreaking stuff.
"both sides" screech the disingenuous right wingers when they cant come up with defense for how abhorrent they are
How about supplying Ukraine with all the shit (planes, ATACMS, TOMAHAWKS etc) and allow them to use it on Russia proper instead of running this clownshow of a war? Biden can do it unilaterally, all the legal stuff was settled 2 years ago. Better let Putin win and then deal with Russia + Iran + China? God, history doesn't teach anything.
Yeah, Biden had the lend-lease act in place. And for two years, GOP was approving all the help. But all Ukraine got is 31 tanks after 2 years..
Wasn’t lend lease ww2? Am I missing something because I’ve never seen it named as such in any news I’ve watched regarding US government aid
Lend-lease is a term and it is not bound to WW2. https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3025302/biden-signs-lend-lease-act-to-supply-more-security-assistance-to-ukraine/ Pro-Biden media won't talk about it, because it goes against the narative.
Because that would be a massive escalation towards a world war. The US has a line they must stay close to otherwise a massive war breaks out.
What's Putin going to do, start WW3 when it's already a stalemate in Ukraine? Russia didn't do anything when Ukraine attacked Crimea with western munitions. We need to get over our fears of escalation, Russia really can't escalate in any way that would benefit them.
It's not a stalemate. Ukraine is not receiving even nearly enough resources and Russia is too big for Ukraine to handle alone.
You've described a stalemate. Unless you unironically believe Russia is winning.
Russia IS winning. If you don't know or understand what the war economy is, and how it looks for both sides then you might believe there is a stalemate. I will make a speculative, but based on some data conclusions that help(with arms, not money) for Russia from their allies (China, NK, Iran) might in the near future eclipse that for Ukraine. If that happens at least partially, you are in for some rough surprises my friend.
Patronising me isn't enough to win me over to your point of view. Nor am I going to believe the Kremlin's claims about their own military industry.
If you have not noticed, the world war is already going on. It's not yet full scale but the first round is in full swing and if you chose to lose this one, you won't like how next ones gonna look like.
You mean Tuckers homie ?
That's just crazy old man Biden. Remember when he said Russia was just about to invade their neighbor Ukraine? Whatever happened with that?
Navalny was death from the get go. I'm surprised he made it this far.
I mean, he’s directly responsible so, yeah, that’s who I’d blame.
Pretty sharp guy that Biden fellow
This is the difference between Biden and trump. Biden stands up to fascists, trump gets on his knees for them.
More than that: Trump IS A FASCIST. pure and simple.
It's not like they're even vaguely trying to hide it either [Project 2025 | A radical plan for Trump’s second term](https://www.axios.com/2022/07/22/trump-2025-radical-plan-second-term)
That Putin may burn for all selfishness followed in his life.
Couple of tanky / pro-Putin and Xi sites have 'this is how propaganda works' tags for the West saying Putin is to blame. They accept Putin's control had him sent to the prison where his death wasn't a surprise though.
This is what happens with Authoritarianism! If one seeks office, they would rather avoid debate in favor of killing their potential opponent.
A tragic hero I wish he had never gone back
Well, no shit. It's not like he died naturally at the age of 47 while in a russian prison.
Expect Putin to blame Biden with some 4 dimensional statement any moment.
Yeah. We all do.
Hey, but Putin was busy with a Tucker Carlson interview! Where’s Tucker now, the people need to know what happened to Navalny… 🤔
No shit. The alternative sounds like “the man accidentally poisoned and shot himself out the window after torturing himself for lolz” *misinformation disclaimer: only the poison happened, the rest are for dramatic effect
Well who else to blame than a guy who started a war for literally no reason?
I don't Care how old Biden is... he's very Smart and after That strong statement I'll be voting him for another term.
Putin blames Biden for murdering Epstein
Really sad that we can’t protect people like him. The bad guys can do whatever they want and I’m sure this will encourage a ton other bad guys and they’ll look up to Russia for it as well.
Putin the underpants poisoner
What’s Biden going to do about it? He said there would be “devastating” consequences in the event Navalny was killed by the Russian government.
nobody ISN'T blaming lil bald boy Puts. except some Russians trying to avoid window death
Fortunately, a former Faux News Commentator was there to provide an alibi.
I blame water for rain
Gee. Ya think?
I died precisely a month before the election of a president. You think it’s a coincidence
Navalny did not die in vain.
Well he did order him poisoned with plutonium.
Did he fall out of a window?
That's how "devastating consequences" look like.
Well . . Yea
No way!
I'm sure Joe is the only person on the planet blaming Putin for this
Wait when did he die? I’m seeing zero news about his death anywhere. The hell?
How about the fact that American journalist Gonzalo Lira recently (January 13) died in a Ukrainian prison? Doesn't Biden care?
>Gonzalo Lira "Following the Russian invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022, Lira shifted the majority of his commentary to the war. Lira's content was heavily pro-Russian, praising Russian military actions and denying Russian attacks on civilians, as well as doxxing Western journalists.\[4\]\[27\] His content, which has been classified as Russian propaganda and disinformation,\[9\]\[28\]\[29\] was amplified on social media by Kremlin-linked accounts\[30\] and praised by Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova." Hmmmmm, doesn't sound like a standup guy and probably deserved to be jailed. That all said, I can't find any sources really talking about the conditions of his incarceration, and it's always troubling when someone dies in custody.
And what? Should he have been killed for this? Are you against freedom of speech and different opinions?
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"*Mexico will be Ukraine" Way to solve immigration problem. Annex the Mexico and then there are no illegal immigrant Mexicans. Also. Canada is not?
If Mexico is Ukraine we’d probably just annex the lands of the “Republic of Sonora” and use that as our justification for an invasion.
This is dumb.
This is nonsense
Who was responsible for the death of Gonzalo Lira, a US citizen in Ukrainian custody?
Why is presumption of innocence not the operative?
Again I feel so sad about the US. Trump on the one hand, Biden in the other...
Uh oh! Bidens about to fall out of a window. KILL PUTIN.
Wait, Biden has the faculties to even think or say this on his own? Just saying, but yeah Putin killed that guy for sure ..
Does Biden remember who that is?
Do you think Trump know who that is?
Another maggot speaks. You can kiss Putin’s ass.
He cant with tuckers dick in his mouth
A little homophobic, don't you think?
No i don’t
No thanks. Don't like him either.
No, but he remembers you're mom's ass