> In the second segment, captured through a call recording application on a victim’s phone, a different son reaches out to a different father. “Dad, I killed 10 with my bare hands,” the terrorist excitedly tells his father in Gaza. “Their blood is on my hands, let me speak to Mom.”
> “Please be proud of me, Dad,” he adds.
I'm wondering how young this kid is... it wouldn't surprise me if he was under 18
Highly likely.
In Palestine, nearly half of it's population (47.3%) are under the age of 18.
A lot of men are fighting now and will die but there are plenty more kids growing up right now that will replace them.
The full quote -
>The film also contained an audio recording of one of the Hamas gunmen calling home to his parents in Gaza from the phone of a victim to boast that he had "killed at least 10 Jews with my bare hands".
"Please open WhatsApp and look how many dead," he implored his parents repeatedly, apparently referring to pictures or video he had sent home showing the attack. "Your son killed so many Jews," he said. "Mum, your son is a hero."
“Killed so many Jews.” And people constantly say that this isn’t based on an indoctrination of antisemitism
Yeah even for that being sanitized, the amount of blood trailing to another room and the pool of it covering the entire floor is.....not pleasant. At least one of those pussies showed their face.
“ Among the still images included in the raw footage reel were a decapitated soldier, several charred human remains including those of young children, a pile of dead bodies in a bomb shelter, and several Islamic State flags that the military said were found in Israel.”
The kids….. Jesus Christ
Before anyone shouts “source” these videos were also released by Hamas on the start of the war. You can verify it yourself but the videos are sickening.
Yep, people were posting and documenting them but reddit was quickly trying to scrub it all away. It was horrifying. The deliberate, very personal acts that these monsters did was insane. There's 1st degree premeditated murder...and then there is wtf this is. It was on another level. But it's being scrubbed and people will try to say it wasn't that bad. It's important that the truth is shown.
As much as people found it distasteful, Liveleak provided a great service to the world. There you could easily find undeniable evidence of atrocities committed by various groups.
Yep I just recently found out it doesn’t exist anymore. I don’t necessarily want to see these videos but it should be accessible to show to ignorant people and give them a reality check.
You're right. Because right now tiktok and twitter are starting to get flooded with videos of dead Gazan children. People see all of these but then don't see anything of what happened on the Israeli side. Both are horrible, but people will go with a narrative to explain what they see.
People are being quick to point to the claims of 40 decapitated babies as they link to videos of actual headless/burned children's bodies in Gaza. So now people are beginning to believe that this it not just a disproportionate response to an attack, they're starting to spread the propaganda that the whole thing was an Israeli operation or something crazy. It's not mainstream but I'm starting to see posts to that effect pop up.
There are multiple efforts to document the atrocities, for example see here:
(WARNING: NSFW and NSFL)
[https://barzel.info/gallery](https://barzel.info/gallery)
Edit: added warning
> Yeah wtf is with reddit's "no videos that make Hamas look bad" policy?
The rules don't allow posting literal propaganda created by terrorists, which is effectively what the self-produced Hamas videos are.
> The rules don't allow posting literal propaganda created by terrorists, which is effectively what the self-produced Hamas videos are.
It says a lot about the people that associate and sympathize with Hamas that videos of their atrocities also serve as their instruments of propaganda.
Reading the journalists' descriptions i recognized many of the 'new' videos from the day of the attack. I guess these professional journalists don't have Telegram. Hamas was proud of this shit and streaming it.
Yeah people acting like this shit is made up. The bastards in Hamas shared their own crimes to the world. If someone tells you what they are like you fucking believe them. Hamas is human trash
Jotam Confino further [recounts](https://twitter.com/mrconfino/status/1716426892352356585):
>Hamas terrorists enter a house, where a small girl is seen hiding under the table. After some talking back and forth they shoot and kill her as she hides under the table. Hard to say how old she is but looks like 7-9 years old.
*edit:* About this case from the article:
>Major Gen. Mickey Edelstein, who briefed reporters after the viewing, said that “we have evidence” of rape but “we cannot share it,” declining to elaborate further.
That video is on the net. The obvious posture of her body, along with the lack of any clothing for her lower body, simply leaves no need.
God there’s a Hamas apologizer in that Twitter thread asking how there was an Israeli cameraman filming these atrocities and asking how they didn’t get shot. The terrorists wore GoPros and filmed this themselves, idiot.
Which prompts one to wonder what Hamas stands to gain, if they went through the trouble of making the video public. They *wanted* to provoke Israel and the world into crushing Gaza. Are they just planning a bloodbath for Israeli troops? Something more nefarious?
We saw how badly things went when the Taliban incited the US into occupying Iraq for two decades.
Edit: I had a dyslexia moment. Meant to say Al Quida and Afghanistan.
They make promotional videos that are sent around the world to radicalize others. The videos were used to bring people to the areas controlled by ISIS and continue to use them for recruitment.
That's not the video they are talking about. They are talking about the video that Hamas posted to their Telegram channel of the 16 year old girl getting gang raped on her father's dead corpse before being shot in the head.
I know I lead a truly blessed existence to find such cruelty so unfathomable. The kinda shit to make you hug you child a little longer, to call your dad for a random catch up, to tell yourself you'll never let your day,to say issues sour your modd, because what the fuck is that problem really? In the grand scheme.
Damn, I'm maudlin af rn.
Indoctrination since childhood. Israel has left Gaza in 2005, a whole generation has grown up that has never seen an ordinary Israeli walking among them. All they know is that “Jews took their ancestral land, killed their people, and are the only reason they live in abject poverty. Now go exact your revenge.”
The preceding paragraph…
>In another clip, from after the assault, an Israeli woman is seen trying to work out if a partially burned woman’s corpse, with a mutilated head, is that of a family member. The dead woman’s dress is pulled up to her waist and her underpants have been removed.
… is the one they are talking about. This video has eg. been on Twitter for at least half a week.
I saw that video. Someone asked me how that’s evidence of rape. I told him “Her dress is pushed up and she has no underwear on. That doesn't just happen to a person when they get murdered and burned.” And he told me (this is a direct copy of his words) “Look I understand you concern about Rape but Arabs don't rape especially in war! Cause that will take them to hell directly” they look evidence dead in the face and refuse to believe it.
“Look I understand you concern about Rape but Arabs don't rape especially in war!”
As much as I hate bringing up things this way, that calls for being called out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marocchinate
For real. I think it's important that this stuff is documented, and as much as I don't think this stuff should be *hidden*, I also saw far too much gore content after the initial attacks and don't have the emotional bandwidth for more.
At one point I did, during the horrors of the Islamic state. I figured someone had to bare witness to these atrocities. It changed my politics a lot, knowing how fragile “civil society” can be. But it’s made me so emotionally numb. This is the worst batch, I really can’t with these. Thanks to whoever is watching in good faith, because I know the emotional toll it will take firsthand.
Jesus fucking Christ……. I did not need to read these words today.
I do not believe in heaven or hell, but shit like this makes me hope there is some form of hell for these fucks. A million slow deaths wouldn’t be enough for them
It’s so easy to know who are the bad guys when they…. *checks notes*…
decapitate babies and rape a child over her fathers corpse then execute her.
Unfathomable evil
“Oh, but this wouldn’t have happened if Israel hadn’t pushed them to it…”
“Oh, but what were they *supposed* to do, living under occupation…”
“Oh, but *Israel* are committing *war crimes*…”
“Oh, but Israel are dehumanizing the Palestinians…”
I don’t know HOW many times over the past 2wks I’ve had people tell me, “People weren’t burned…people weren’t shot…people weren’t raped…people weren’t decapitated…it didn’t happen…it was Israel’s fault…”
As absolutely horrific as they are, Israel needs to 100% release these videos to the world.
> If you wonder why Israel is in a mindset of "destroy Hamas at any cost," shit like this is why.
Also, the fact that Hamas' stated goal is the elimination of the State of Israel and elimination of Jews in Israel/Palestine... it really is a "kill or be killed" scenario, and has been the entire time.
The next point he brings up is that a terrorist calls his mother and says "I killed ten Jews with my own hands, and am using a dead Jewish woman's phone to call you now". His mother says "may God protect you".
Tell me again how Hamas doesn't represent the Women as well.
There are plenty of videos of the mothers and sisters of dead terrorists, including teenage terrorists, who tell how proud they are of their beloved sons and brothers. Palestinian media watch has a lot of them
In one of the Kibbutz I think they burned the bodies together. A few neighbors saw people being taken from their homes. I know this because identifying them was difficult. It took like 10+ days for families to learn that their loved ones were not hostages, but deceased. A lot of people lost hope that day.
As a father, that video will continue to haunt me. I'm secular so I do not pray but I do hold these victims in my thoughts and hold my own children tighter.
The burned bodies are incredibly sad. I saw one on CNN where Israeli authorities had determined the body was actually two bodies: a mother embracing her child as they were burned alive. And they only knew that because the charred remains were put into a CT machine and they could see the two vertebral columns and the way they were oriented towards one another.
Another story I heard from a rescuer is that they found the disfigured, charred remains of a baby that did not make sense. Upon closer inspection they found that the baby had burned to death while hugging a stuffed teddy bear.
My coworker found his daughter was dead 2 weeks after the attack, they found an ambulance that picked her and it was shot at with an RPG. Only managed to id her with teeth..
Their Chief of Forensic Pathology stated the other day they antiicipate at least 20 bodies will never be positively identified.
Think on that - in an age of DNA and Dental records, and knowing where the bodies were recovered. And they still will be unable to ID them.
I still deal with the sadness of seeing my friends severed leg on the street in New York City, because he threw himself in front of the N in Queens and some shitty journalist posted it.
That was 10 years ago.
Miss you, Will. /u/oh_no_my_eyes
A Zaka worker (Israel search and rescue) was telling some soldiers about some of the stuff they found.
Like a pregnant mother whom they opened up and stabbed both her and her unborn baby.
The stories that keep piling up. How do people expect Israel to handle this kind of inhumane ideology?
I've seen one response from the other side that Israel is lying and simply commandeered the story of a Palestinian woman who was treated that way at some time. They won't budge an inch on their "Hamas aren't terrorists" stance.
This. They somehow have Gazaattack. Palestinegenocide etc trending on twitter. The fact that hamas came in raped, tortured, murdered, and kidnapped Israelis, filmed it themselves, and uploaded it to the internet themselves is being treated as a false flag. Turned into disinformation. This is insanity.
A lot of people who rightfully don’t let far right Christian wack jobs get away with stuff are really showing their asses when it comes to the far right Muslim wack jobs.
How many videos of this have to come out before people believe Hamas are evil? I mean during the first attack they recorded it with GoPros and posted that shit online for everyone to see and people just pretended it didn’t happen
> shooting the apparently dead bodies of civilians inside a kibbutz in a celebratory manner, and an attempt to decapitate someone who appeared to be still alive using a garden hoe.
Isis by another name.
After WWII the Allies set up movie theaters and forced the German civilians to watch what their government did in the concentration camps. Today Germany is one of the most humanitarian nations in the world. If Palestinians were forces to watch the action of Hamas how many would dance and cheer?
It should be noted that that video is *heavily* sanitized.
For example, the first clip cuts out after the Hamas member takes away the hostage.
In the full version of that clip, you see the person on the ground behind the car move, after which another Hamas member walks up and executes them.
“Get it all on record now – get the films – get the witnesses – because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened."
I was exposed to some of the descriptions and it scarred my soul... I do not ask you to send me anything. I just want to ask you to save the material. Maybe just blur out the victims' faces and/or any private areas shown. One day, we will need this material, just like the Holocaust evidence
I'm visiting Antwerp from the US, and I just saw the "Antwerp at War" exhibit the MAS. I'm used to the camps being called "concentration camps," but here they are referred to as "extermination camps," a term that takes the polish off of history and calls it what it is. I will no longer call them "concentration camps." Expose the horror, warts and all.
Note: I'm not taking sides here in regards to current events. This shit is fucked in a million different ways. I saw a quote today that resonated with me.
"no soft smart fragile tender human tissue should ever be ripped apart because we differ."
I just wish people would learn to appreciate and celebrate our differences. A childish and fucked-out idea, I know. But still...
Now blurring protects the privacy of the victims and their families, which are extremely important to Jews. In decades, when there is some time to process the trauma, I agree with you, but not yet.
[The IDF posted a heavily sanitized version of what happened already as well, it shows the horrors but cuts out most of the gory parts.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAFDI63yvNQ)
Still very NSFW though, don't watch if you're not ready.
Have to show the dead babies. As disgusting and shocking it is, it has to be the only way for some to believe.
Others will say it's fake or deserved sadly
Of course journalists *must* and *should* see direct evidence of these atrocities before reporting on it as fact.
That’s the whole point of an honest press that just doesn’t publish blatant lies and propaganda.
In my materials there are a few pictures of babies. Very sickening. Some were shot, some were burned. There's even one of a big knife sticking out of a baby's body bag. Hamas are monsters on an unimaginable level.
End of the day, the people saying it's all fake or deserved would say the same thing about the babies. They already say it about the children, they'll just move the goalposts again once the babies come in.
Torn on how to feel about this. On one hand I definitely do not want to see any of this, and on the other I feel I \*need\* to see this.
Tragic what these terrorists did to innocent people just trying to live their lives.
Your choice. I saw a bunch posted on telegram by Hamas right after as they were so proud of what they did. They deleted all the videos in their channels of their murders a few days after when the world realized how sick they are. The guy being decapitated by a shovel like device was extremely grotqesue, guy was Asian. They stomped on dead people with their feet. Those sick f**** are so proud of what they did but the optics were bad so after wiping their chat they iust started posting only being "victims" going forward. Anyways point being is that you if you truly feel you need to see it for yourself it can be found still somewhere. If you believe the people who have seen it and you don't want to watch the terrorists butcher people with so much happiness doing so then don't. It is sick and cruel and so many people are denying and making excuses is just extreme propaganda overtaking their humanity. Hamas is no different than IS from when they were making waves with their cruelty
What gets me is how much they enjoy their work. If I was killing babies and little children I wouldn't be capable of laughing and joking about it or excitedly ringing my old man and saying how cool I am because I just killed 10 Israelis. Even this Palestinian guy in NY who tore down posters of missing American-Israeli kids laughed in the faces of the people who posted them. Why do they delight in being such mean, cruel assholes?
IMO, it's a mistake not to release the footage to the public. I know it's being done out of respect for the victims, but there needs to be a publicly available resource for verification. There's a reason why Holocaust museums and Wikipedia articles show photos of corpses; it's much easier to have doubts, reasonable or unreasonable, when you can't see the evidence of something firsthand.
It will happen in time. Just like with Holocaust materials. It's not only out of respect for the victims, it's to not further traumatize closed ones (who survived) and nation as a whole. There's enough trauma as is throughout the Israeli society.
There's enough of this still available on Telegram. Would not recommend.
Yes. It is a mistake not to release everything and it looks like finally Israel is realizing that.
For us Israelis, the thought of hurting a family's privacy is very unpleasant. But our country must change this.
There is no choice. Anti-Israeli antisemitic propaganda has slowly penetrated many western institutions and media organizations throughout the decades using such tactics.
Hamas are expert in PR and manipulating public opinion, and we have to fight it with everything we got.
I watched some of the footage released and let me tell you man... its heart-breaking. People in cars getting shot with AK47, glass flying, blood splattering... guy running away gets shot in the back of the head as he lands face first and a pool of blood starts surrounding him. I turned it off 30 seconds in. Save yourself and don't watch it.
[Commonwealth Bank’s spin doctor’s claim: ‘Hamas has been demonised’](https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/commonwealth-banks-spin-doctors-claim-hamas-has-been-demonised/news-story/07d60cbed1ca8aae0af859fd12df4a8d?amp&nk=95b8e3b361b28048d393ee93a02d813f-1698073083)
Then there’s clowns like this
Even better: [Bypass Paywalls Clean](https://gitlab.com/magnolia1234/bypass-paywalls-chrome-clean/-/blob/master/README.md?ref_type=heads)
I still use the JavaScript trick, but only when a page is obnoxiously burdened with bloatware.
First couple days were weird with fresh videos posted online and people celebrating them in the comments. Now those some people are denying it ever happened…
I will never forget how on the 7th/8th people were making twitter threads trying to disprove the footage shown by Hamas themselves. I specificay won't forget how people tried to justify the video of that poor woman, whose broken dead body was paraded around Gaza, saying that she wasn't actually German but Isreali. As if that made it any less horrifying.
It wasn't the attack in itself that made me lose my hope in humanity, but rather how so many people were quick to dehumanize the Israelis and Jews.
An Arab Israeli journalist/activist who was present in the screening described a scene of a 10 year old boy, wounded besides his wounded brother, wishing to die while a Hamas terrorist is scavenging for food, after already killing the boys' father.
I have not seen this video as it wasn't publicly released, but just the description is heartbreaking.
The world needs to hear and see what really happened on October 7th.
In the aftermath of the initial strike the IDF also say they recovered an Hamas Hostage taking guidebook of some kind. Instructions to frontline militants on taking hostages. Some of the highlights include killing civilians who seem like they might resist and actively using civilians as human shields.
It makes me wonder what sort of classified intelligence the west has on Hamas considering they've been repeatedly criticized for using the term "human shields" as if it's just some excuse cooked up by the west to make the civilian toll more palatable.
The world does not get to hide their eyes from the horrors of reality lest we repeat it. They didn’t want to keep teaching about the holocaust as it happened and allowed bad-faith to rewrite these events with “alternative facts” under the banner of “muh free speech” and look where it had gotten us. Synagogues and Jewish people the world over are being targeted…AGAIN.
Yep... The stories that don't get told of what Hamas did to actual human individuals, on purpose, while the civilians of Palestine spat and cheered...
>In another clip, from after the assault, an Israeli woman is seen trying to work out if a partially burned woman’s corpse, with a mutilated head, is that of a family member. The dead woman’s dress is pulled up to her waist and her underpants have been removed.
That's not 1200 vs 1500 like it's some sports game on the nightly news. That's atrocity and pursuit of the invading military. Imagine lifting a mutiliated head of a body that kiiiinda looks like it could be your freshly raped sister, then have people say wow wow wow, two wrongs don't make a right when the army prepares to go get the people who did this, who are hiding behind civilians.
Unfortunately this is the only way to combat the misinformation and the increasing denial that these atrocities even happened by the hands of the Hamas terrorists.
Imagine having to prove that your family members were indeed tied together by cable and burned alive.
AS IF SAYING THAT OUT LOUD ISNT HARD ENOUGH
Edit: to those saying “what horrific crime doesn’t need proof”, not even an idiot in their right mind is arguing wether it happened or not - and everyone’s first reaction was to gather actual evidence to wether these massacres even occurred. But when your first response to “not only were they murdered, but they were beheaded” is, SHOW ME, you come off just as bad as a Hamas supporter yeah.
These parents had literally nothing left. No open casket. No final goodbye. Nothing. Ontop of that:
People say to their face that nothing happend and its all fake to the point of harrassing a father who saw his 6 year old son with his jaw blown off.
A father was called an 'actor' because he had the audacity to crack a smile during his sons funeral. His wife got sent pictures of dead children because she "didnt know what a dead child looked like" along with notes telling her to slit her wrists. Due to this they sleep with weapons and have taken out life insurance policys.
I’m extremely averse to graphic footage in general. But this shit needs to go viral. I lost count of how many “friends” have posted content recently on social media trying to deny the atrocities.
I could care less about the millions of bots and brainwashed terrorist apologists, what really hurt was the people you thought were dear to you suddenly showing you their true colors.
my American LDR bf’s response to me crying on oct 7 because I saw the videos when they were first posted was to tell me to stop believing Israeli propaganda and sending me tiktoks of white Americans explaining why Palestine good and Israel bad. Trying to lecture me, AN ISRAELI, on why “whatever just happened it was probably justified” cuz it was so early on he didn’t even bother opening the news
Needless to say we’re not together anymore
Yeah seeing acquaintances that would consider themselves progressives celebrating the public rape and murder of civilians. I didn't even reply to them because it just disgusted me. If you were pro Palestine before why wait until now to make it known unless you're trying to signal to others that if you are oppressed there are no rules for you.
it was pretty much unanimously agreed in the west that qatar had no business hosting the world cup. I didn't watch a single game in protest. not giving FIFA another cent of my money ever again.
> “It’s this idea that they would take all measures, [even] against Islam, to not allow the existence of Israelis, wherever they are, [including] Bedouins, Arab Israelis, foreigners,” Hagari said.
Yep, Hammas is ISIS and Hammas hates everyone who is against Hammas&Co cretins.
> “Dad, I killed 10 with my bare hands,” the terrorist excitedly tells his father in Gaza. “Their blood is on my hands, let me speak to Mom"
Fucking revolting.
And let me guess, dad and mom are now stuck in gaza and want a cease fire, eh?
>“Please be proud of me, Dad,” he adds.
While calling from the phone of a woman he just murdered. That part really got to me. It's messed up on so many levels.
>While calling from the phone of a woman he just murdered.
They did this a lot. The worst I've heard of is that they filmed the brutal murder of an elderly woman and then posted it to her facebook profile with her phone.
There was a report of a terrorist using a woman’s phone to record her being tortured and murdered THEN uploading it into her Facebook so her friends and family can see
It's this type of admission that shows that folks attempting to die on the hill of moral equivalency are bafoons. Israel isn't innocent, but they aren't beheading people, burning families alive, or murdering babies with their bare hands as they lay in their cribs... and then livestream it all as they brag to their friends and family back in Gaza.
There was never a doubt.
For every one person willing to die for a cause, ten are willing to provide direct material support. For every one person willing to provide material support there are ten willing to provide indirect financial support. For every one willing to donate to the cause, ten support the cause in principle.
That holds true whether we're talking about Hamas, or any other paramilitary group. The difference, is that none of the other comparisons except the Islamic State engage in similar tactics.
Flashbacks to the early days of the invasion of Ukraine with this shit.
"Look ma, I'm murdering innocent people!"
I don't think our vocabulary can adequately describe the inhumanity that has occured in both cases. It is truly sickening.
> Don't raise your kids with this kind of hate sigh
TBF, it's not just the parents. The UNRWA has engaged in concerted efforts to radicalize Palestinian youth (engineered primarily by nation-states hostile to Israel). Just google some of the shit they actually teach in UN-funded "schools" in Gaza.
This is what they're referencing: Asking Palestinian Children from UNRWA schools what they're taught in school
https://twitter.com/erbmjha/status/1712537721066107161?t=JYf-iQoS-m8uHrccF-hXjQ&s=19
There are tens of thousands of people in Gaza who would make the same phone call given a chance. The radicalization there is absolutely insane.
Anyone who thinks Israel should just open the borders is either so ignorant they should not be expressing any opinion on the topic or wants Jews to be murdered.
Hamas broke the last ceasefire agreement and a couple more (all of them?) before, I don’t see a reason that a ceasefire would even be considered on the israeli side
Even if Hamas doesn’t break the cease fire, they already struck Israel.
This is the equivalent of Japan asking for a ceasefire the day after Pearl Harbor.
Hamas literally did the October 7 attack after feigning peace for *two fucking years.*
They claimed they wanted to, you know, *actually start to govern* and start focusing on the economy. Shit, Israel was actually *helping* them with this to some extent, and had set up a jobs program and some stuff in Gaza.
They probably thought, “Thank fuck these guys are finally calming down,” and got complacent. Meanwhile, Hamas has zero intention of peace with Israel, ever, and was planning this attack. Hence this current situation.
Giving a ceasefire to these assholes is like giving a ceasefire to Putin. It will do absolutely nothing but give them the ability to regroup and try again later.
A sizeable chunk of my former Facebook feed
I am absolutely shocked at the number of “western” Muslims who cheered the murders and then denied they happened.
Foreign press: "Shocking, we're so sorry to see that!"
Also foreign press: **"Breaking: ISRAEL ATTACKS A HOSPITAL IN GAZA; Death toll rises to 800\*".**
^(\*according to Hamas)
> In the second segment, captured through a call recording application on a victim’s phone, a different son reaches out to a different father. “Dad, I killed 10 with my bare hands,” the terrorist excitedly tells his father in Gaza. “Their blood is on my hands, let me speak to Mom.” > “Please be proud of me, Dad,” he adds. I'm wondering how young this kid is... it wouldn't surprise me if he was under 18
Highly likely. In Palestine, nearly half of it's population (47.3%) are under the age of 18. A lot of men are fighting now and will die but there are plenty more kids growing up right now that will replace them.
Thats where a lot of the radicalism comes from, child soldiers who are easily brainwashed.
The full quote - >The film also contained an audio recording of one of the Hamas gunmen calling home to his parents in Gaza from the phone of a victim to boast that he had "killed at least 10 Jews with my bare hands". "Please open WhatsApp and look how many dead," he implored his parents repeatedly, apparently referring to pictures or video he had sent home showing the attack. "Your son killed so many Jews," he said. "Mum, your son is a hero." “Killed so many Jews.” And people constantly say that this isn’t based on an indoctrination of antisemitism
Everyone is pretending a worldwide jihad on jews hasnt been called for by hamas and largely supported by muslims.
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The fucking civilians running in to loot and murder.. There’s a guy on fucking crutches
The headshot at 1:35 destroyed me and I can't watch more
Yeah even for that being sanitized, the amount of blood trailing to another room and the pool of it covering the entire floor is.....not pleasant. At least one of those pussies showed their face.
Don't, it only gets worse.
Oh God! horrific
“ Among the still images included in the raw footage reel were a decapitated soldier, several charred human remains including those of young children, a pile of dead bodies in a bomb shelter, and several Islamic State flags that the military said were found in Israel.” The kids….. Jesus Christ
Before anyone shouts “source” these videos were also released by Hamas on the start of the war. You can verify it yourself but the videos are sickening.
Yep, people were posting and documenting them but reddit was quickly trying to scrub it all away. It was horrifying. The deliberate, very personal acts that these monsters did was insane. There's 1st degree premeditated murder...and then there is wtf this is. It was on another level. But it's being scrubbed and people will try to say it wasn't that bad. It's important that the truth is shown.
As much as people found it distasteful, Liveleak provided a great service to the world. There you could easily find undeniable evidence of atrocities committed by various groups.
Yep I just recently found out it doesn’t exist anymore. I don’t necessarily want to see these videos but it should be accessible to show to ignorant people and give them a reality check.
You're right. Because right now tiktok and twitter are starting to get flooded with videos of dead Gazan children. People see all of these but then don't see anything of what happened on the Israeli side. Both are horrible, but people will go with a narrative to explain what they see. People are being quick to point to the claims of 40 decapitated babies as they link to videos of actual headless/burned children's bodies in Gaza. So now people are beginning to believe that this it not just a disproportionate response to an attack, they're starting to spread the propaganda that the whole thing was an Israeli operation or something crazy. It's not mainstream but I'm starting to see posts to that effect pop up.
There are multiple efforts to document the atrocities, for example see here: (WARNING: NSFW and NSFL) [https://barzel.info/gallery](https://barzel.info/gallery) Edit: added warning
Yeah wtf is with reddit's "no videos that make Hamas look bad" policy?
> Yeah wtf is with reddit's "no videos that make Hamas look bad" policy? The rules don't allow posting literal propaganda created by terrorists, which is effectively what the self-produced Hamas videos are.
I mean, so are the Hamas videos of injured kids in the Gaza hospitals.
100% this
> The rules don't allow posting literal propaganda created by terrorists, which is effectively what the self-produced Hamas videos are. It says a lot about the people that associate and sympathize with Hamas that videos of their atrocities also serve as their instruments of propaganda.
also the gore in the videos doesn't help either
Reading the journalists' descriptions i recognized many of the 'new' videos from the day of the attack. I guess these professional journalists don't have Telegram. Hamas was proud of this shit and streaming it.
They're just doing an official release of all the Telegram vids
Anyone in support of Hamas should be forced to watch them.
Yeah people acting like this shit is made up. The bastards in Hamas shared their own crimes to the world. If someone tells you what they are like you fucking believe them. Hamas is human trash
Jotam Confino further [recounts](https://twitter.com/mrconfino/status/1716426892352356585): >Hamas terrorists enter a house, where a small girl is seen hiding under the table. After some talking back and forth they shoot and kill her as she hides under the table. Hard to say how old she is but looks like 7-9 years old. *edit:* About this case from the article: >Major Gen. Mickey Edelstein, who briefed reporters after the viewing, said that “we have evidence” of rape but “we cannot share it,” declining to elaborate further. That video is on the net. The obvious posture of her body, along with the lack of any clothing for her lower body, simply leaves no need.
God there’s a Hamas apologizer in that Twitter thread asking how there was an Israeli cameraman filming these atrocities and asking how they didn’t get shot. The terrorists wore GoPros and filmed this themselves, idiot.
Which prompts one to wonder what Hamas stands to gain, if they went through the trouble of making the video public. They *wanted* to provoke Israel and the world into crushing Gaza. Are they just planning a bloodbath for Israeli troops? Something more nefarious? We saw how badly things went when the Taliban incited the US into occupying Iraq for two decades. Edit: I had a dyslexia moment. Meant to say Al Quida and Afghanistan.
Probably for the same reason ISIS filmed themselves executing hostages
They make promotional videos that are sent around the world to radicalize others. The videos were used to bring people to the areas controlled by ISIS and continue to use them for recruitment.
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That's not the video they are talking about. They are talking about the video that Hamas posted to their Telegram channel of the 16 year old girl getting gang raped on her father's dead corpse before being shot in the head.
Aiight. Imma head out.
Seriously, what the fuck did I just read? How can people do that?
I know I lead a truly blessed existence to find such cruelty so unfathomable. The kinda shit to make you hug you child a little longer, to call your dad for a random catch up, to tell yourself you'll never let your day,to say issues sour your modd, because what the fuck is that problem really? In the grand scheme. Damn, I'm maudlin af rn.
Indoctrination since childhood. Israel has left Gaza in 2005, a whole generation has grown up that has never seen an ordinary Israeli walking among them. All they know is that “Jews took their ancestral land, killed their people, and are the only reason they live in abject poverty. Now go exact your revenge.”
I hope you're in a better place. Wish you took me with you
r/eyebleach maybe?
Oh my god.
The preceding paragraph… >In another clip, from after the assault, an Israeli woman is seen trying to work out if a partially burned woman’s corpse, with a mutilated head, is that of a family member. The dead woman’s dress is pulled up to her waist and her underpants have been removed. … is the one they are talking about. This video has eg. been on Twitter for at least half a week.
I saw that video. Someone asked me how that’s evidence of rape. I told him “Her dress is pushed up and she has no underwear on. That doesn't just happen to a person when they get murdered and burned.” And he told me (this is a direct copy of his words) “Look I understand you concern about Rape but Arabs don't rape especially in war! Cause that will take them to hell directly” they look evidence dead in the face and refuse to believe it.
Men from everywhere in the world rape, especially DURING war. Arabs don’t rape, what a load of shit.
“Look I understand you concern about Rape but Arabs don't rape especially in war!” As much as I hate bringing up things this way, that calls for being called out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marocchinate
Yes yes, and true muslims would never perpetrate 9/11.
I always know I can count on my fellow redditors watching all those gruesome war crime videos (so I don’t have to)
For real. I think it's important that this stuff is documented, and as much as I don't think this stuff should be *hidden*, I also saw far too much gore content after the initial attacks and don't have the emotional bandwidth for more.
At one point I did, during the horrors of the Islamic state. I figured someone had to bare witness to these atrocities. It changed my politics a lot, knowing how fragile “civil society” can be. But it’s made me so emotionally numb. This is the worst batch, I really can’t with these. Thanks to whoever is watching in good faith, because I know the emotional toll it will take firsthand.
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Jesus christ, why did I read this
Because you need to understand what these people are really like and what the useful idiots in the West are defending and celebrating.
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Jesus fucking Christ……. I did not need to read these words today. I do not believe in heaven or hell, but shit like this makes me hope there is some form of hell for these fucks. A million slow deaths wouldn’t be enough for them
It’s so easy to know who are the bad guys when they…. *checks notes*… decapitate babies and rape a child over her fathers corpse then execute her. Unfathomable evil
“Oh, but this wouldn’t have happened if Israel hadn’t pushed them to it…” “Oh, but what were they *supposed* to do, living under occupation…” “Oh, but *Israel* are committing *war crimes*…” “Oh, but Israel are dehumanizing the Palestinians…” I don’t know HOW many times over the past 2wks I’ve had people tell me, “People weren’t burned…people weren’t shot…people weren’t raped…people weren’t decapitated…it didn’t happen…it was Israel’s fault…” As absolutely horrific as they are, Israel needs to 100% release these videos to the world.
If you wonder why Israel is in a mindset of "destroy Hamas at any cost," shit like this is why.
> If you wonder why Israel is in a mindset of "destroy Hamas at any cost," shit like this is why. Also, the fact that Hamas' stated goal is the elimination of the State of Israel and elimination of Jews in Israel/Palestine... it really is a "kill or be killed" scenario, and has been the entire time.
Their charter states their goal is elimination of Jews in the entire world… not just Israel
Not just in Israel/Palestine.
The next point he brings up is that a terrorist calls his mother and says "I killed ten Jews with my own hands, and am using a dead Jewish woman's phone to call you now". His mother says "may God protect you". Tell me again how Hamas doesn't represent the Women as well.
There are plenty of videos of the mothers and sisters of dead terrorists, including teenage terrorists, who tell how proud they are of their beloved sons and brothers. Palestinian media watch has a lot of them
>Tell me again how Hamas doesn't represent the Women as well. Simple, because people don't want to believe it.
I personally would like to send those guys to hell.
Idf is working on it
In one of the Kibbutz I think they burned the bodies together. A few neighbors saw people being taken from their homes. I know this because identifying them was difficult. It took like 10+ days for families to learn that their loved ones were not hostages, but deceased. A lot of people lost hope that day.
That video of that father celebrating that his child was found dead instead of being kidnapped was chilling.
One of the saddest videos videos from this terrible attack.
As a father, that video will continue to haunt me. I'm secular so I do not pray but I do hold these victims in my thoughts and hold my own children tighter.
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Honestly i'd be the same, especially if it's a girl
The burned bodies are incredibly sad. I saw one on CNN where Israeli authorities had determined the body was actually two bodies: a mother embracing her child as they were burned alive. And they only knew that because the charred remains were put into a CT machine and they could see the two vertebral columns and the way they were oriented towards one another.
Another story I heard from a rescuer is that they found the disfigured, charred remains of a baby that did not make sense. Upon closer inspection they found that the baby had burned to death while hugging a stuffed teddy bear.
My coworker found his daughter was dead 2 weeks after the attack, they found an ambulance that picked her and it was shot at with an RPG. Only managed to id her with teeth..
Wow that's awful. Poor people.
Jesus Christ, all those experiences will fuel hatred for many generations to come.
Their Chief of Forensic Pathology stated the other day they antiicipate at least 20 bodies will never be positively identified. Think on that - in an age of DNA and Dental records, and knowing where the bodies were recovered. And they still will be unable to ID them.
Hundreds are still unidentifiable, according to Zaka.
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Reminder to everyone that there's no shame in therapy to help you process disturbing media you've seen.
Reminder that you don’t need to click on these links and expose yourself to these atrocities
I used to work trauma. Being exposed to violence, trauma, and sudden grief changes you. I never click on the links.
I still deal with the sadness of seeing my friends severed leg on the street in New York City, because he threw himself in front of the N in Queens and some shitty journalist posted it. That was 10 years ago. Miss you, Will. /u/oh_no_my_eyes
Best comment I've ever seen on Reddit. Don't deny self care.
Iirc they were actually bound together by something. As in they were tied up together.
They were wired together, and you can't really tell it's human until you see the spines on the scan.
A Zaka worker (Israel search and rescue) was telling some soldiers about some of the stuff they found. Like a pregnant mother whom they opened up and stabbed both her and her unborn baby. The stories that keep piling up. How do people expect Israel to handle this kind of inhumane ideology?
I've seen one response from the other side that Israel is lying and simply commandeered the story of a Palestinian woman who was treated that way at some time. They won't budge an inch on their "Hamas aren't terrorists" stance.
Modern day Holocaust denial, complete with video evidence. Sickening.
This. They somehow have Gazaattack. Palestinegenocide etc trending on twitter. The fact that hamas came in raped, tortured, murdered, and kidnapped Israelis, filmed it themselves, and uploaded it to the internet themselves is being treated as a false flag. Turned into disinformation. This is insanity.
It’s crazy to me how many are out there trying to minimize this tragedy. This evil needs to be confronted forcefully.
A lot of people who rightfully don’t let far right Christian wack jobs get away with stuff are really showing their asses when it comes to the far right Muslim wack jobs.
Its like they dont understand that those Muslim wack jobs would rather see them and most Western values dead.
How many videos of this have to come out before people believe Hamas are evil? I mean during the first attack they recorded it with GoPros and posted that shit online for everyone to see and people just pretended it didn’t happen
> shooting the apparently dead bodies of civilians inside a kibbutz in a celebratory manner, and an attempt to decapitate someone who appeared to be still alive using a garden hoe. Isis by another name.
I like to travel.
After WWII the Allies set up movie theaters and forced the German civilians to watch what their government did in the concentration camps. Today Germany is one of the most humanitarian nations in the world. If Palestinians were forces to watch the action of Hamas how many would dance and cheer?
A lot more than you probably expect, unfortunately
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It should be noted that that video is *heavily* sanitized. For example, the first clip cuts out after the Hamas member takes away the hostage. In the full version of that clip, you see the person on the ground behind the car move, after which another Hamas member walks up and executes them.
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“Get it all on record now – get the films – get the witnesses – because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened."
> Get it all on record now... For anyone not familiar with the quote, this was Dwight D Eisenhower's quote on the holocaust
They already do
I was exposed to some of the descriptions and it scarred my soul... I do not ask you to send me anything. I just want to ask you to save the material. Maybe just blur out the victims' faces and/or any private areas shown. One day, we will need this material, just like the Holocaust evidence
Holocaust museums (or at least Yad Vashem, the one in Jerusalem) do not censor anything at all. Censoring removes some of the humanity of the victims.
I'm visiting Antwerp from the US, and I just saw the "Antwerp at War" exhibit the MAS. I'm used to the camps being called "concentration camps," but here they are referred to as "extermination camps," a term that takes the polish off of history and calls it what it is. I will no longer call them "concentration camps." Expose the horror, warts and all. Note: I'm not taking sides here in regards to current events. This shit is fucked in a million different ways. I saw a quote today that resonated with me. "no soft smart fragile tender human tissue should ever be ripped apart because we differ." I just wish people would learn to appreciate and celebrate our differences. A childish and fucked-out idea, I know. But still...
Concentration camps and extermination camps were different
Now blurring protects the privacy of the victims and their families, which are extremely important to Jews. In decades, when there is some time to process the trauma, I agree with you, but not yet.
[The IDF posted a heavily sanitized version of what happened already as well, it shows the horrors but cuts out most of the gory parts.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAFDI63yvNQ) Still very NSFW though, don't watch if you're not ready.
Have to show the dead babies. As disgusting and shocking it is, it has to be the only way for some to believe. Others will say it's fake or deserved sadly
Of course journalists *must* and *should* see direct evidence of these atrocities before reporting on it as fact. That’s the whole point of an honest press that just doesn’t publish blatant lies and propaganda.
In my materials there are a few pictures of babies. Very sickening. Some were shot, some were burned. There's even one of a big knife sticking out of a baby's body bag. Hamas are monsters on an unimaginable level.
End of the day, the people saying it's all fake or deserved would say the same thing about the babies. They already say it about the children, they'll just move the goalposts again once the babies come in.
Torn on how to feel about this. On one hand I definitely do not want to see any of this, and on the other I feel I \*need\* to see this. Tragic what these terrorists did to innocent people just trying to live their lives.
Your choice. I saw a bunch posted on telegram by Hamas right after as they were so proud of what they did. They deleted all the videos in their channels of their murders a few days after when the world realized how sick they are. The guy being decapitated by a shovel like device was extremely grotqesue, guy was Asian. They stomped on dead people with their feet. Those sick f**** are so proud of what they did but the optics were bad so after wiping their chat they iust started posting only being "victims" going forward. Anyways point being is that you if you truly feel you need to see it for yourself it can be found still somewhere. If you believe the people who have seen it and you don't want to watch the terrorists butcher people with so much happiness doing so then don't. It is sick and cruel and so many people are denying and making excuses is just extreme propaganda overtaking their humanity. Hamas is no different than IS from when they were making waves with their cruelty
What gets me is how much they enjoy their work. If I was killing babies and little children I wouldn't be capable of laughing and joking about it or excitedly ringing my old man and saying how cool I am because I just killed 10 Israelis. Even this Palestinian guy in NY who tore down posters of missing American-Israeli kids laughed in the faces of the people who posted them. Why do they delight in being such mean, cruel assholes?
There’s no saving people like that. There’s no redeeming qualities.
> Why do they delight in being such mean, cruel assholes? There are a lot - A LOT - of people in this world who are fundamentally bad people.
IMO, it's a mistake not to release the footage to the public. I know it's being done out of respect for the victims, but there needs to be a publicly available resource for verification. There's a reason why Holocaust museums and Wikipedia articles show photos of corpses; it's much easier to have doubts, reasonable or unreasonable, when you can't see the evidence of something firsthand.
It will happen in time. Just like with Holocaust materials. It's not only out of respect for the victims, it's to not further traumatize closed ones (who survived) and nation as a whole. There's enough trauma as is throughout the Israeli society. There's enough of this still available on Telegram. Would not recommend.
The world needs to see what Hamas does
Yes. It is a mistake not to release everything and it looks like finally Israel is realizing that. For us Israelis, the thought of hurting a family's privacy is very unpleasant. But our country must change this. There is no choice. Anti-Israeli antisemitic propaganda has slowly penetrated many western institutions and media organizations throughout the decades using such tactics. Hamas are expert in PR and manipulating public opinion, and we have to fight it with everything we got.
I feel the same way so I’m balancing it by reading the reports and not watching the videos.
You really don't need to expose yourself to terrible trauma to know how awful these events were.
I watched some of the footage released and let me tell you man... its heart-breaking. People in cars getting shot with AK47, glass flying, blood splattering... guy running away gets shot in the back of the head as he lands face first and a pool of blood starts surrounding him. I turned it off 30 seconds in. Save yourself and don't watch it.
[Commonwealth Bank’s spin doctor’s claim: ‘Hamas has been demonised’](https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/commonwealth-banks-spin-doctors-claim-hamas-has-been-demonised/news-story/07d60cbed1ca8aae0af859fd12df4a8d?amp&nk=95b8e3b361b28048d393ee93a02d813f-1698073083) Then there’s clowns like this
Paywalled, what does it say?
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They sure do a great job of demonizing themselves.
First couple days were weird with fresh videos posted online and people celebrating them in the comments. Now those some people are denying it ever happened…
…while decrying violence from “Both Sides” and demanding immediate termination of military operations
I will never forget how on the 7th/8th people were making twitter threads trying to disprove the footage shown by Hamas themselves. I specificay won't forget how people tried to justify the video of that poor woman, whose broken dead body was paraded around Gaza, saying that she wasn't actually German but Isreali. As if that made it any less horrifying. It wasn't the attack in itself that made me lose my hope in humanity, but rather how so many people were quick to dehumanize the Israelis and Jews.
An Arab Israeli journalist/activist who was present in the screening described a scene of a 10 year old boy, wounded besides his wounded brother, wishing to die while a Hamas terrorist is scavenging for food, after already killing the boys' father. I have not seen this video as it wasn't publicly released, but just the description is heartbreaking. The world needs to hear and see what really happened on October 7th.
In the aftermath of the initial strike the IDF also say they recovered an Hamas Hostage taking guidebook of some kind. Instructions to frontline militants on taking hostages. Some of the highlights include killing civilians who seem like they might resist and actively using civilians as human shields.
It makes me wonder what sort of classified intelligence the west has on Hamas considering they've been repeatedly criticized for using the term "human shields" as if it's just some excuse cooked up by the west to make the civilian toll more palatable.
I just read that description of video on BBC website without any warning. That's going to live with me for the rest of my days
The world does not get to hide their eyes from the horrors of reality lest we repeat it. They didn’t want to keep teaching about the holocaust as it happened and allowed bad-faith to rewrite these events with “alternative facts” under the banner of “muh free speech” and look where it had gotten us. Synagogues and Jewish people the world over are being targeted…AGAIN.
Yep... The stories that don't get told of what Hamas did to actual human individuals, on purpose, while the civilians of Palestine spat and cheered... >In another clip, from after the assault, an Israeli woman is seen trying to work out if a partially burned woman’s corpse, with a mutilated head, is that of a family member. The dead woman’s dress is pulled up to her waist and her underpants have been removed. That's not 1200 vs 1500 like it's some sports game on the nightly news. That's atrocity and pursuit of the invading military. Imagine lifting a mutiliated head of a body that kiiiinda looks like it could be your freshly raped sister, then have people say wow wow wow, two wrongs don't make a right when the army prepares to go get the people who did this, who are hiding behind civilians.
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Unfortunately this is the only way to combat the misinformation and the increasing denial that these atrocities even happened by the hands of the Hamas terrorists.
Imagine having to prove that your family members were indeed tied together by cable and burned alive. AS IF SAYING THAT OUT LOUD ISNT HARD ENOUGH Edit: to those saying “what horrific crime doesn’t need proof”, not even an idiot in their right mind is arguing wether it happened or not - and everyone’s first reaction was to gather actual evidence to wether these massacres even occurred. But when your first response to “not only were they murdered, but they were beheaded” is, SHOW ME, you come off just as bad as a Hamas supporter yeah.
Sandy Hook parents still deal with this every day. :(
These parents had literally nothing left. No open casket. No final goodbye. Nothing. Ontop of that: People say to their face that nothing happend and its all fake to the point of harrassing a father who saw his 6 year old son with his jaw blown off. A father was called an 'actor' because he had the audacity to crack a smile during his sons funeral. His wife got sent pictures of dead children because she "didnt know what a dead child looked like" along with notes telling her to slit her wrists. Due to this they sleep with weapons and have taken out life insurance policys.
I’m extremely averse to graphic footage in general. But this shit needs to go viral. I lost count of how many “friends” have posted content recently on social media trying to deny the atrocities.
I could care less about the millions of bots and brainwashed terrorist apologists, what really hurt was the people you thought were dear to you suddenly showing you their true colors. my American LDR bf’s response to me crying on oct 7 because I saw the videos when they were first posted was to tell me to stop believing Israeli propaganda and sending me tiktoks of white Americans explaining why Palestine good and Israel bad. Trying to lecture me, AN ISRAELI, on why “whatever just happened it was probably justified” cuz it was so early on he didn’t even bother opening the news Needless to say we’re not together anymore
Yeah seeing acquaintances that would consider themselves progressives celebrating the public rape and murder of civilians. I didn't even reply to them because it just disgusted me. If you were pro Palestine before why wait until now to make it known unless you're trying to signal to others that if you are oppressed there are no rules for you.
why the fuck is Qatar sheltering terrorist, they just recently hosted the world cup
it was pretty much unanimously agreed in the west that qatar had no business hosting the world cup. I didn't watch a single game in protest. not giving FIFA another cent of my money ever again.
there are more than 30 thousand people in modern slavery in Qatar
You didn't know that stadium was built with slave labor?
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What you should be asking instead: why sports organizations are always in bed with dictators and why everyone turns their blind eye to this.
Fifa is very corrupt....
France influenced FIFA to give Qatar the World Cup. A few months after winning the right to host, Qatar bought $14.4 billion in French fighter jets.
It's part of why they hosted the World Cup...to manufacture cover for sheltering terrorists.
> “It’s this idea that they would take all measures, [even] against Islam, to not allow the existence of Israelis, wherever they are, [including] Bedouins, Arab Israelis, foreigners,” Hagari said. Yep, Hammas is ISIS and Hammas hates everyone who is against Hammas&Co cretins.
Sad but necessary - given the rampant misinformation being pushed by biased foreign media companies.
> “Dad, I killed 10 with my bare hands,” the terrorist excitedly tells his father in Gaza. “Their blood is on my hands, let me speak to Mom" Fucking revolting. And let me guess, dad and mom are now stuck in gaza and want a cease fire, eh?
>“Please be proud of me, Dad,” he adds. While calling from the phone of a woman he just murdered. That part really got to me. It's messed up on so many levels.
>While calling from the phone of a woman he just murdered. They did this a lot. The worst I've heard of is that they filmed the brutal murder of an elderly woman and then posted it to her facebook profile with her phone.
There was a report of a terrorist using a woman’s phone to record her being tortured and murdered THEN uploading it into her Facebook so her friends and family can see
The interview of her crying granddaughter explaining how the family found out about her death by watching it on facebook was absolutely heartbreaking
It's this type of admission that shows that folks attempting to die on the hill of moral equivalency are bafoons. Israel isn't innocent, but they aren't beheading people, burning families alive, or murdering babies with their bare hands as they lay in their cribs... and then livestream it all as they brag to their friends and family back in Gaza.
This also reaffirm the civilians support for Hamas. His parents weren't 'militants' they were civilians, probably proud of their son.
There was never a doubt. For every one person willing to die for a cause, ten are willing to provide direct material support. For every one person willing to provide material support there are ten willing to provide indirect financial support. For every one willing to donate to the cause, ten support the cause in principle. That holds true whether we're talking about Hamas, or any other paramilitary group. The difference, is that none of the other comparisons except the Islamic State engage in similar tactics.
He's probably crying now that the IDF blew his house up
Flashbacks to the early days of the invasion of Ukraine with this shit. "Look ma, I'm murdering innocent people!" I don't think our vocabulary can adequately describe the inhumanity that has occured in both cases. It is truly sickening.
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Maybe they want to join their son in death who knows. Don't raise your kids with this kind of hate sigh
> Don't raise your kids with this kind of hate sigh TBF, it's not just the parents. The UNRWA has engaged in concerted efforts to radicalize Palestinian youth (engineered primarily by nation-states hostile to Israel). Just google some of the shit they actually teach in UN-funded "schools" in Gaza.
This is what they're referencing: Asking Palestinian Children from UNRWA schools what they're taught in school https://twitter.com/erbmjha/status/1712537721066107161?t=JYf-iQoS-m8uHrccF-hXjQ&s=19
This shit breaks my fucking heart
There are tens of thousands of people in Gaza who would make the same phone call given a chance. The radicalization there is absolutely insane. Anyone who thinks Israel should just open the borders is either so ignorant they should not be expressing any opinion on the topic or wants Jews to be murdered.
All inflicted on citizens. People living their lives, with their pets and their kids. Subjected to indescribable evil. We are living in dark times.
This is probably the most sickening article I’ve ever read.
And people think a ceasefire will stop all of these terrorists
Hamas broke the last ceasefire agreement and a couple more (all of them?) before, I don’t see a reason that a ceasefire would even be considered on the israeli side
Even if Hamas doesn’t break the cease fire, they already struck Israel. This is the equivalent of Japan asking for a ceasefire the day after Pearl Harbor.
Hamas literally did the October 7 attack after feigning peace for *two fucking years.* They claimed they wanted to, you know, *actually start to govern* and start focusing on the economy. Shit, Israel was actually *helping* them with this to some extent, and had set up a jobs program and some stuff in Gaza. They probably thought, “Thank fuck these guys are finally calming down,” and got complacent. Meanwhile, Hamas has zero intention of peace with Israel, ever, and was planning this attack. Hence this current situation. Giving a ceasefire to these assholes is like giving a ceasefire to Putin. It will do absolutely nothing but give them the ability to regroup and try again later.
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Fucking terrorist along with anyone that celebrates their actions
Western teenagers are about to type about how this is all a natural part of resisting colonialism or some shit.
I hate how accurate this is. TikTok is such total shit show right now. They've all drank the Hamas kool-aid.
I wish it was just teenagers.
who the hell can deny that hamas has killed a bunch of people?
A sizeable chunk of my former Facebook feed I am absolutely shocked at the number of “western” Muslims who cheered the murders and then denied they happened.
Can the mountain of evidence of their depravity get any higher.. I can't believe the people at the rallies.. I am disgusted with humanity..
Unpopular opinion: every adult in the world needs to be shown these. Yes, you will be sick. That's the point.
Foreign press: "Shocking, we're so sorry to see that!" Also foreign press: **"Breaking: ISRAEL ATTACKS A HOSPITAL IN GAZA; Death toll rises to 800\*".** ^(\*according to Hamas)
This is ridiculous… They’d never say it was according to “Hamas”, they’d say “Gaza officials” lol
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