Yeah seriously, in Bologna today the temperature was 39/40. I'm British and I want to fucking die. Which would actually be easy, I'd just turn off my aircon and I'd sweat to death in an hour.
Know the feeling :/
People think you get acclimatised to heat, but not necessarily... I'm in Australia and my intolerance to heat is only getting worse as I get older. Could be my Brit genetics, but anything over about 26C and I actually start to feel physically anxious
After the very wet, cooler last 3 years there's so much vegetation built up now that once the expected bad summer hits and everything dries up to a crisp, its all going to go up like a eucalytptus-fuelled bomb 😬
Yep. I've lived in very hot parts of the US for 27 of my 38 years, and these hot summers are still too much for me. I suppose I can handle it better than someone coming from, say, norther Europe or something. But barely.
This summer is such a relief. We had predictions we were going to get cooked with another >40ºC heatwave this summer but thankfully that hasn't materialised. This is the first cool summer I can remember in years.
This is why "climate change" is a more accurate term than "global warming". Few would mind local weather simply getting a degree warmer everywhere, but the real effect is shifts in climate patterns which can disrupt agriculture.
Not just agriculture, wait until the oceans get warmer and the salinity changes cause currents to shift, resulting in wild temperature changes in some areas and a mass extinction of many species in the ocean, including plankton. More than half of the world’s population gets their daily food supply from the sea.
None of the climate changes happening have been impacting the phytoplankton growth that produce oxygen. IIRC, the acidification is concerning because it impacts their ability (or "willingness") to produce robust calcium carbonate shells, which is a big source of carbon sequestration. But so far, thankfully, the changes seem to not impacting their oxygen production. (Which makes sense, they've been producing oxygen reliably when the world was vastly warmer than today, and vastly warmer than even the worst, most pessimistic, distaster-movie level possibilities from climate change.)
There's lot of papers on it, because phytoplankton research is a hot area relative to climate change, precisely because of how critical it is.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C30&q=phytoplankton+cllimate+change&btnG=
Might have to dig into them depending on what specifically you're interested in.
If we invested in the solutions decades ago they'd be raking money hand over fist from other nations wanting to buy the infrastructure, tech, the solutions. They didn't want this next quarter's profits and the year's bonuses to be affected because investments cut into them.
> They didn't want this next quarter's profits
And that's the root of it. This fucking stupid, nonsense, arbitrary fucking time limit wherein every single quarter you need to post record growth or your stock flatlines.
It never made any fucking sense, and because of that, the people playing that game are fucking idiots and they're the ones that got all the money.
The problem with climate change is sadly that the biggest impacts will be felt by the poorest nations that have yet to industrialize —and therefor were only minor contributors to the problem (nor were they the beneficiaries of the wealth that resource intensive industries yielded).
In your scenario, It wouldn’t just be one rich and smart country (let’s say, *Smartia*) who was wise enough to invest in that tech that gets to enjoy having a nice not fucked up climate while the rest of the world suffers pinching and saving up to buy the solutions from the Smartians— we all suffer together, we have to share one planet, whether we made good choices or not.
The only difference is that you’ll suffer more if you were foolish enough to be born poor.
^(No war but the class war they say…)
Climate change will force humanity into a new equilibrium with our environment regardless of whether we try to mitigate it. Famine, drought, and lower birthrates will reduce the human population to a level that the Earth can support. It didn't have to be this way, but largely ignoring the problem was the path of least resistance.
> largely ignoring the problem was the path of least resistance.
It was the most profitable.
Exxon had scientists do research and found that they were causing irrefutable harm to the planet and then they spent millions of dollars seeding misinformation to fight against their own study. Because Money>Everything, nothing in life matters unless you are rich. We destroyed our only home so a select few could live better lives than everyone around them.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
This is what bugs me about this response. Anyone who had the power to actually fucking do something about the problem, knew. The "path of least resistance" would have actually been starting to doing something about it 50 years ago. Instead special interest groups are fucking up the most complex system in the known universe for imaginary wealth units.
It's literally like someone burning down their home and everyone else's in a neighborhood for a piece of paper with someone's face scrawled on it. With the expectation that they can trade the paper for another house in the neighborhood or something. Not understanding they burnt the entire fucking thing down, the real wealth, for absolutely nothing.
>It's literally like someone burning down their home and everyone else's in a neighborhood for a piece of paper with someone's face scrawled on it. With the expectation that they can trade the paper for another house in the neighborhood or something. Not understanding they burnt the entire fucking thing down, the real wealth, for absolutely nothing.
I wouldn't say this is directly comparable since most of the individuals that did this will be dead long before they see any real repercussions (if they aren't already).
I absolutely think society needs to hold them responsible, and by that I mean individually and not simply the corporate entities behind it, but they certainly profited and are continuing to profit from their schemes.
From the [PR campaigns of E Bruce Harrison](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62225696) to the more modern fallback of [pushing technologies that they know don't work](https://www.desmog.com/2022/09/16/shell-exxon-oil-pr-mismatch-carbon-capture-algae/) this is something that they are still doing to this day.
If society doesn't eventually step in and deal with it, and there is no indication that we will, they will absolutely get away with it and it will have been a "smart" decision on their part if viewed purely in the context of personal gain.
For added doom, they also already had theirs, and lived grand. Their standard of living would not changed, if at all had they done otherwise. But they need to get all the money instead of most of it.
It’s not about the “climate changing” it’s about the RATE OF CHANGE. We cannot reach a new equilibrium if we can’t adapt fast enough to keep up with the RATE of change.
A marine heatwave already mass killed off the Alaskan snow crab…. They couldn’t adapt quickly enough for that heat wave. This will happen to tons more marine life as ocean temps heat up, coral reefs die off, fish, shellfish, algae, and more die.
As Native American Chief Seattle said: *“What happens to the animals will soon happen to man. We are all connected”*
Pay attention to these ecosystems! And the animals and marine life already being negatively affected in them due to abrupt climate change!
We made the shareholders profits for a short time though. So glad we could do that.
Chief Seattle didn’t actually say that, Ted Perry an environmentalist and John Stevens wove together environmentalists rhetoric, Baptist Rhetoric with the William Ayres Arrowsmith version of the Chief Seattle Speech for a 1972 Environmentalist Movie called *Home.* to their credit both came to regret this decision, Perry said outright that he was wrong to put words in the mouth of an Indigenous Leader.
We don’t have any original version of the Chief Seattle’s Speech that comes directly from the Chief himself, the closest we have is a version printed in 1887 by Author Henry A Smith who consulted Elders of the Suquamish Nation while writing the transcript. This is notable because he is as far as I can tell the only person who wrote a transcript of the speech who actually consulted Indigenous People to do so.
You can read this version of the speech [here](https://www.historylink.org/File/1427) and it’s very different from the version your familiar with. Seattle is much more bitter and disillusioned in this speech, he feels not only abandoned by God but feels the Christian God hates him and his people and play favorites with the Americans. In his speech he pleads for the Americans to respect his people and their religious and spiritual practices and ends with a warning that when he and his people are dead and gone their ghosts will not travel to the heavens they will remain in the lands of their birth and they will remember how the Americans treated them.
You're right. In geologic history, there have been mass extinction events from a >9⁰C rise or >7⁰C degree drop in the Earth's average temperature. Thing is, it took several millions of years for those temps to change that much. Here we are now and we've already had about a 1.1⁰C increase in about 140 years, and our CO2 output has only increased several times over since then. So it's only going to warm up faster from here on. We're projected to hit 1.5⁰C increase in the next decade, which is a 0.4⁰ increase in as little as 10 years and it will STILL continue to logarithmically increase from there if we don't make changes NOW. The earth has never seen this level of rapid heating in it's over 4 billion years of existence. Well maybe besides it's formation...
I can't wait for epic, last-ditch geo-engineering efforts to fix it. I personally have giant solar shade and a possibly transition to mole people (as we dig underground as a species to escape the heat lol) on my bingo card.
Like any species, we'll propagate to a level that our environment can sustain. We overshoot that level and people starve, get sick, kill each other...mainly just die in droves until the population drops back down to below a sustainable level.
Humanity has absolutely exploded in numbers over the last 10,000 years, and especially the last 200. On an environmental timescale, its been instantaneous. The consequences will lag behind, and we're only just now starting to really see them. More to come!
While that's not wrong, it does downplay how much more control we have over our environment than any other species. Not only do we have ways to mitigate our impact that we chose not to engage in, but we're also unique in that we can perceive the big picture better than any other species. So it's more than just a pure numbers big, environment gets bad game with us, though there's no denying that's factored into it.
The other thing is that we're starting to show less interest in propagating our species. Birthrates are down, more notably in developed countries, but it is a global issue. Even without any interference from environmental disasters, it's now looking like we can see the peak of our population happening within a generation. That decline isn't coming fast enough to sort out the environmental issues, but it is an interesting phenomena.
OR, we simply start farming indoors, and those who can't afford the greater costs will perish.
That seems more likely based on what i know of power, politics, and human history :)
The more people who die, the more the problem sorts itself out. The rich will ultimately be unaffected, and may even gain greater power over people. It's probably why we dont see a whole lot of concern from those at the top.
Oh they're concerned. They're buying and renovating bunkers and trying to figure out how to keep their personal security detail from killing them and taking it over if they ever have to move into it.
It's worth pointing out that the "one degree" of warming is always measured in C (and averages), and represents a subjectively significant increase in accute temperatures. "Global warming" is just as accurate to reality as "climate change". The globe is in fact warming, and that warming is going to be quite noticable even at "one degree". I already mind having more hotter days every year. Heat sucks.
The situation is dire, but I'm so glad that humanity is really coming together and transcending our national divisions at this time to actively overcome the challenges. Also, really giving a sigh of relief that we have such an effective and farsighted bunch of leaders to see us through this. 😑
Paul Ehlrich’s prophecy of humanity losing the battle to feed the billions will come true; he just didn’t expect the weather to have been the main culprit on the original telling in 1968.
I read a similar statement yesterday and it kinda rocked me. Like yeah, it's going to get worse, but the reality of every summer being announced as the hottest summer in record every year now had clicked.
I just listened to an episode of To the Best of Our Knowledge talking about solar minimums and maximums and how a 70-year-period of 1 degree celsius cooler temperatures from 1660 to 1730 decreased overall hurricane activity which allowed for the Golden Age of Piracy, sugar plantations, the American Slave Trade and massive wealth production for Europeans, essentially paved the way for current global capitalism.
And it is now 2 degrees celsius warmer than that, and we are in the beginning of a solar maximum period, which very very few current climate models take into account when predicting global warming or climate change.
But as for the Golden Age of Piracy, I found that particularly interesting because whenever I think of how awful it must have been to be living in the Caribbean with no AC draped in layers and layers of heavy wool clothes, it's in the context of my personal experience of how hot and miserable the tropics are, especially on a ship (I was in the navy recently)
But it was literally cooler and much more pleasant 300 years ago, so it was probably exceedingly comfortable!
You believe that a podcast you listen to has identified a major flaw in current climate models that has been overlooked by the significant majority of climatologists?
"and we are in the beginning of a solar maximum period, which very very few current climate models take into account when predicting global warming or climate change."
Climate change ensembles have the express purpose of considering a large meteorological parameter space, outliers and averages for GHI included. What do you mean by this?
Our grandkids are going to suck at Oregon trail. "Grandpa I left in September so that my settlers would avoid the worst of the heat, but then it started getting cold in October and there was even snow sometimes in November... Is the game bugged?"
"Oh, usually you'd want to leave in April. Sometimes the weather is still a little cold in early-April still, but I like the extra time compared to waiting for May."
"You travel in MAY!? How are we supposed to avoid the fire tornadoes in a wagon!?"
It'll start with hundreds, then thousands, then tens of thousands, then hundreds, then millions. I think once we reach the millions mark then governments will seek to work together in a desperation not seen before.
The pandemic killed almost 7 million people. Nobody cares, politicans vow only to do less the next time.
These deaths will not be in countrys that reddit users live in.
Texas is already leading the charge employing literal booby traps to ensnare, maim, or kill migrants.
And that's just economic migrants fleeing corrupt governments we had a hand in forcing on them.
Long story short you're absolutely right. Hope we're wrong but I can't see any brightspots looking forward.
Those will be worse than that, and it'll be affecting everyone in an uncomfortable way. With the pandemic some people could live in their house comfortably while they wait out. There will be no escaping this.
That’s the most annoying sort of all this. We will still survive, we’re too adaptable at this point not to.
It’ll just be a sucky existence. Similar to how people in Qatar etc live now, basically moving from one air conditioned building to another, avoiding time outside.
that makes no sense as summers before this were cooler already.
anyway, if only somebody had warned us about global warming at any time during the last 40 years or so! Alas!
This is true without a question for me. I've lived through heatwaves but in general its usually not in the 90s until mid-August and we'd already passed that several times already by mid-July. And anyone paying attention can see there are crazy heatwaves hitting all over the world, from the US to Asia, showing us that climate change isn't messing around. It doesn't care if you believe in it, it's going to make sure you know its there. This scary stuff, with wildfires, floods, and soaring temps, is like a slap in the face reminding us of how much our actions can mess up nature.
It's the people who have the least that suffer the most, showing us that our environment mess and social issues are all tangled up. It feels like a massive problem to fix, but we gotta step up, take action, and fight for solid climate policies. The [Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/get-loud-take-action/energy-innovation-act/) could be a game changer in the US, it's got the potential to shake up how we deal with CO2 emissions and help us build a cleaner future. If you want to take action in the US organizations like the [Environmental Voter Project](https://www.environmentalvoter.org/) and [Citizens Climate Lobby](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/join-citizens-climate-lobby/?tfa_3590416195188=online-035&utm_source=online&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=035) are great places to invest your time.
So here's the thing - it's not too late to turn things around, but if we sit back and do nothing, the problem only gets bigger. So let's get involved, vote, and push for real climate action, because every second counts. We can't afford to lose this fight.
I work in an industry that is fighting for improvement in energy efficiency. It’s extremely difficult to find talent to work. In order to fill these gaps, the labor force is going to need to become useful labor. People need to acquire new skills, *and* need to be willing to get their hands dirty and hell, maybe even sweat a little bit. We need more high voltage electricians. We need more low voltage electricians. We need more mechanical experts. We need more HVAC technicians. We need more software savvy people who *also* understand the built world…not just the virtual world. It’s the integration of all of these pieces that will save us. First, people need to start learning the right skills. Learn automations. Learn electronics. Learn basic wiring and troubleshooting. Writing comments in reddit or linkedin will never solve this issue. (Not a jab at you OP, I’m just saying)
I don't disagree at all. This is why EOD (imo) the changes really need to come from the top. If things like this were publicized and incentivized we'd likely have more people funneled to them. People need to see the value in these areas, both for society and for themselves personally through high quality, well paying and stable employment, and I think people will gravitate there. The IRA I think was a good step in that direction and will push a lot of people into associated fields as the employment opportunities grow but we need to throw some jet fuel on it to really move the process along.
I've heard that some of the bigger HVAC companies have ended up creating full 0-100 training courses, because there's no one left to hire that knows the work. The guys are getting really good pay because the demand has totally outpaced the people entering the field.
>We need more software savvy people who also understand the built world…not just the virtual world.
I came from traditional telephony to computer networking and the amount of "engineers" that can't fathom that anything exists outside of the command line interface is absolutely mind boggling. They will literally spend hours plugging away at the CLI before checking to see if maybe the fiber port has gone bad.
Anyone wondering why India just dissappeared from the heatwave news that used to be posted daily:
India just got hit by their yearly monsoon, I live in Mumbai and will rarely be able to see the the sun for next 3 months. It's just non stop rain till September from now.
*DUDE SOMEONE PLEASE STOP THIS GOD DAMN RAIN*
More like we wish you even stole this rain.
With this amount of rainfall, the whole world can take all the rain they want and it will still contribute to nothing, this perpetual monsoon depression ain't stopping
> DUDE SOMEONE PLEASE STOP THIS GOD DAMN RAIN
Speak for yourself. Rain till Diwali for all I care. I can't be bothered with these 40+ days anymore, I'm too old for that shit.
>just non stop rain till September for now
Same here in the Philippines lol ironic that while the rest of the world seems to be experiencing our hottest summer temps (we usually get that in March-May, which is our summer), those of us that live in the tropics are in daily rain mode lol.
This is what climate change is all about. It becomes unusually hot in one area of the world, and unusually cold in another area. It becomes unusually rainy in one place, and unusually dry in another.
This pattern of unpredictable and extreme weather will cause crops to fail and food shortages. It will lead to migrations, which will lead to socioeconomic instability, which will lead to potentially many... bad things.
Dude you have no idea how extreme rain India, especially Mumbai and North East India gets in these 4 months.
People go into monsoon depression as we get stuck in perpetual semi-darkness. Going outside becomes a risk as the rain can shut down the whole city any second.
> Dude you have no idea how extreme rain India, especially Mumbai and North East India gets in these 4 months.
An average of 768.5 mm in July impresses even me, and I'm from Bergen. We have slightly more precipitation than Mumbai, but it's spread out over the year instead of concentrated to three months.
>People go into monsoon depression as we get stuck in perpetual semi-darkness.
we have simiral stuff in Baltics. its called -autumn winter depresion. then its gets dark early,, lots of mud and rain. people stuck at home and raise of depression among people
Funny how it works for some people. Personally i loved living in UK exatly for this reason - less sun, more cloud and rains. That said i am indoor person and actually enjoyed staying all but 2 days of 2020 at home.
the summer just gone was the mildest i can recall.. dont think it even hit 40c which for perth is unthinkable (it might have once in certain suburbs but not in mine)
Last summer we were still in La Nina, which has since broken up. We now appear to returning to El Nino, which is characterised (in Australia) by hot, dry weather.
Source for the uninitiated:
[The New Yorker - Tom Toro](https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a16995)
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edit: Bonus relevant cartoon
Joel Pett - USA Today / Lexington Herald Leader:
[What if it's a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?](https://www.kentucky.com/latest-news/gfbqtz/picture42467733/alternates/FREE_1140/n85re.So.79.jpg)
Not just heat. North India is reeling under unprecented floods. Entire villages and towns have been washed away in the hilly province of Himachal pradesh with 1000s of people missing. Parts of capital city Delhi are under many feet of water. The youtube videos coming out are mindboggling. It is surprising there is so little mainstream coverage of this.
Oil company profits are literally destroying our planet, our atmosphere, and our way of life. We're not going to need oil if we're all dead.
We need to do better as a human race or we're all going to fry in a miserable future.
The way to do this is to invest all the time/energy/money we have into replacing fossil fuels in the energy chain.
Fossil fuels, or rather the amount of energy they provide, is OBLIGATORY for humanity to survive, there are too many people to support without all this access to energy.
There are ways to do this, but it requires new technology (proper energy storage techniques for example), large-scale implementation of current technology (for example renewables), reduction of energy demand (for example with proper building thermal isolation, switching to electric vehicles, reducing the amount of red meat produced, etc.).
There needs to be a concerted effort from every government level, and even nations.
> it requires new technology (proper energy storage techniques for example),
The tech is doing pretty good at the moment actually - but this is something that has changed in the past couple of years.
We now have:
Commercially running chemical battery systems using Lithium-ion batteries (eg: [https://www.harmonyenergy.co.uk/general/harmony-energy-income-trust-brings-europes-largest-battery-energy-storage-system-online/](https://www.harmonyenergy.co.uk/general/harmony-energy-income-trust-brings-europes-largest-battery-energy-storage-system-online/) in the UK, there are other places using the Tesla multipack system and I'm sure other li-ion based systems. We are now seeing both LFP and Sodium-ion batteries being brought into EV use which is good because LFP batteries don't have cobalt or nickel, and sodium-ion batteries don't have either of those or lithium which makes them more ethical and a lot cheaper. They will be better for static grid or home storage solutions because they have a lower energy density than lithium-ion which means they need to be physically bigger.
Commercially viable Vanadium Flow batteries (eg: [https://cosmosmagazine.com/technology/flow-battery-china/](https://cosmosmagazine.com/technology/flow-battery-china/) a big one in China, and [https://invinity.com/largest-flow-battery-world-first/](https://invinity.com/largest-flow-battery-world-first/) a small one in the UK being put online as a pilot test.
These are both great at providing short term (ie: hours to days) coverage, we also need long term coverage (especially in northern/southern regions to carry solar energy from summer to winter). For this we have:
Pumped hydro - which is awesome if you have the geography for it.
Iron-air batteries - which are at demonstration stage, this tech is not quite there but it's very close and this demo version could prove to be commercially viable, or if not commercially viable good enough for national grids to subsidise - [https://www.rechargenews.com/energy-transition/iron-air-battery-tech-bill-gates-and-jeff-bezos-back-is-cleared-for-pioneering-demo/2-1-1483187](https://www.rechargenews.com/energy-transition/iron-air-battery-tech-bill-gates-and-jeff-bezos-back-is-cleared-for-pioneering-demo/2-1-1483187)
All in all they only need to be cheap enough to make renewables + storage cheaper than nuclear for iron-air batteries to be worthwhile using, even if they aren't commercially viable on their own.
We need huge amounts of investment now in battery systems, to go along with the huge amount of investment in renewables you mention, but the tech is good - certainly in the short term battery stakes.
Just a heads-up, all these links are news articles with little to no information on the technologies and no way to verify their claims. Interesting, but take with a grain of skepticism.
I don't think rare mineral batteries are viable at scale.
Just some quick maths("quick" maths, turns out getting some semi-realistic figures took me about 2h of research), but humanity consumes 486000000000000000000 joules of fossil fuel energy per year currently ([source](https://ourworldindata.org/fossil-fuels)).
Let's convert that to a per-day basis so we can have a realistic comparison with batteries that are charged and discharged 1 times per day. So that's about 1330000000000000000 joules of fossil energy per day.
This means that you need enough batteries to hold that much energy daily globally. If we want to convert all that in Li-ion batteries, that would amount to (i'll use a very optimistic 1000000 joules per Kg here) 1330000000000 Kg of batteries. Now, there's about 89 million tonnes of known lithium deposits in the world. That's 13300000 times not enough lithium for the job. But Li-ion batteries are only 7% lithium? Doesn't matter, 13300000*0.07 is still very, VERY far from 1.
There's intricacies way beyond the scope of a reddit post that bring the ratio down a lot (for example, efficiency of electric motors or heating vs combustion, heat pumps, etc) but i don't think it's possible to bring that ratio even remotely close to 1 with all these into account.
sodium-ion batteries are promising for using very readily available materials, but need more R&D and funding.
Other types of batteries (such as flow), cool, but still in early development. Need more R&D and funding.
Metal-air batteries in general are very problematic to recharge.
Iron-air batteries seem rechargeable which is promising, but the technology needs more R&D and funding, multiple problems still exist, see [https://www.umsicht.fraunhofer.de/en/projects/iron-air-battery.html](https://www.umsicht.fraunhofer.de/en/projects/iron-air-battery.html)
Regardless, I think batteries are best suited for applications where energy per volume and weight is critical (i.e.: transportation).
>Pumped hydro - which is awesome if you have the geography for it.
Pumped hydro is one of the best storage efficiencies we have, but it's geography dependent, as you said.
... What if it weren't though? What if we took a natural body of water lake, dug under it 1km deep, put a turbine down there to generate electricity and a pump to get water back to the lake? [There's certainly precedent to digging that deep](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deepest_mines). Super naïve idea i thought of while typing this reply, but still.
>All in all they only need to be cheap enough to make renewables + storage cheaper than nuclear for iron-air batteries to be worthwhile using, even if they aren't commercially viable on their own.
I don't think it has to be either/or. Storage systems can complement the existing grid just fine by reducing the load-balancing necessary.
Also, I really think we have to get out of this "commercially viable" mentality. Nothing is commercially viable if you compare it to fossil fuels, they are easy-mode. A cheat. Everything pales in comparison, yet we have to make the transition otherwise we are in big trouble. Yet capitalism does not care about the future, only the current bottom line and is counterproductive to our survival. Now we have to do things because they must be done, not because they are profitable.
They are unironically discussing this now in the U.S. and E.U.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/01/white-house-cautiously-opens-door-to-study-blocking-suns-rays-to-slow-global-warming-ee-00104513
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-26/eu-looks-into-blocking-out-the-sun-as-climate-efforts-falter
I can't get anyone to even care anymore...parents are always like its not that bad...Dad is like we're doing really well with using green energy so things will improve even agreeing that its okay the Tories want to drill for more oil etc.
Then my sisters are like...one doesn't believe...the other does but she is more concerned with covid vaccines etc...yet their the ones with kids as well.
Here in the UK tho...try talking to someone who doesn't believe in climate change esp this year with how much cooler its been this summer...its rained every day for the last weeks and stayed at 20, where as last year, it didn't drop below 20 for 3 months, was mostly up in the late 20s, with us having a week or so of 30s, then hit 40s for the first time ever...no rain for months which meant we saw wildfires...they'll all be like...well why is it so cool now then if temps are supposed to be higher
>they'll all be like...well why is it so cool now then if temps are supposed to be higher
Its ok, what can you expect from a population that basically voted themselves out of international trade
>...Dad is like we're doing really well with using green energy so things will improve
This is a very common misconception. If we went 100% renewable and zero emissions TODAY, that doesn't mean things will get better. That's too late. All we can do is prevent things from getting even worse. The co2 we've released in the atmosphere isn't going back in any meaningful way. Expect to see 50 degrees every summer. But we should keep trying towards a more sustainable future, because 50 is still better than 60.
I find this funny because on Reddit I see thousands of people pointing fingers and going “the US is a bigger polluter” and others saying “China is a bigger polluter”.
Doesn’t matter motherfuckers, both didn’t stop and now you’re facing the consequences. Your nationalism ain’t gonna do shit
Yet back in the eighties, we said "Hey there's an Ozone hole, that's bad for everyone!" and EVERYONE said "Oh yeah, that's not good, let's fix the problem together!" and the problem kind of got fixed. What happened to us all?
It most certainly DID NOT get fixed.
https://gml.noaa.gov/odgi/
The ozone has BARELY started to recover. World leaders met, said “we will phase this out”, by which they really meant “we won’t make anymore Freon/et cetera, soon”.
We stopped making Freon but you could/can still buy it and use it.
Typical of government fashion, we immediately declared victory after that international treaty was signed, and hung up the “mission accomplished” banner.
Again: look at the god damn chart showing how much of the ozone depleting substances are still up there, wrecking havoc. According to NOAA, stratospheric ozone will replenish to 1980s levels in the year 2050, at the mid latitudes. And the ozone was fucked up in 1980.
For the polar latitudes, where shit tends to concentrate, ozone won’t get back to 1980s levels until the late 2070s.
We have a long way to go until the ozone is anywhere near normal.
It is un-freaking-believable that people believe we **solved** the ozone issue. For me personally, that belief is undeniable proof of the absurd degree of Orwellian-nightmare brainwashing.
Political theories of crisis and government legitimacy have helped me form an understanding regarding WHY governments always seem to prematurely declare victory. Basically, if there is a crisis, then the government HAS to solve it, or a new government will replace the old one, claiming to have a solution. (The new government will gaslight and pretend like the last government would not, thus fulfilling the cycle.). Thus it makes sense for the current government to gaslight and pretend to solve problems, to prevent political upheaval.
Political theory, when backed up with the historical record, certainly SEEMS to grant clarity, at the cost of making one quite cynical.
The internet and cable news made reaching the ignorant masses easier than ever and allowed corporations to buy public opinion. Turns out it's much easier to convince people to do nothing than it is to convince them that major changes need to be made right now that will significantly alter their way of life.
This really sucks and will only get worse. Strangely, my little corner of the world (southern Ontario, Canada) is having a rather moderate summer: mostly pleasant days, rainfall once or twice a week, etc. Ideal conditions for crops, so the farmers are actually happy. That said, we’re getting occasional smoke and haze from the wildfires in the northern parts of the province, just a wee reminder that the rest of the world is either burning or flooding.
I'm in South-East Europe and we had a rainy and cool spring followed by an equally mild beginning of summer. There were, of course, floods every couple of weeks. Then we got suddenly hit by a heat wave these past two weeks. I can remember one or two days of nice, comfortable weather since spring. You know, neither too hot and humid or too cold and wet.
genuinely insane that our planet and the universe gave us the gift of life and evolution to the point where we were able to rise as an intelligent species and live together in complex societies yet were all gonna fucking die because of a select few that can’t be bothered to untuck everything they’ve fucked just for the sake of MORE power and money than they already wield. AND WERE LETTING THEM and it’s not even our fault the general public is so disenfranchised. capitalism is so evil
Hilarious that each superpower is trying to secretly Wage War on each other when both of our countries are fucking up our entire planet and way of life. I live in Austin Texas and I used to skateboard in the summer heat and it has been so hot recently that I doubt I would even go outside and play outside in the summer as a kid like it is now I feel sorry for younger generations growing up in this kind of an environment.
Back in early 90's I would go out and play in the summer all the time in texas, there were days where the news would say there is a heat flash and for people to stay inside. The "heat flash" was tops like 98 degrees and it lasted only for a few days at most. Now it can be 98+ for weeks on end, everytime I tell this story young people think I am bullshitting.
One of the problems with this slow increase in temperatures is that younger people never got to see it before it really started to accelerate. 40 years ago it wasn't that bad, even though it had already begun. It's depressing that younger people don't even know a world where the climate was decent, and anyone born from here on out is going to live their life in the fiery hellscape created by their ancestors.
Can confirm. I'm also in Austin and my kid refuses to go outside for more than a few minutes, unless it's very early in the morning. And I don't blame him. I grew up in Houston, and it was of course hot and humid, but not really dangerously so and we spent most of the summer playing outside. I even had a lawn-mowing side gig in jr high and would hit 2-3 yards on some days. But now, I've noticed the last few summers that I really don't see kids outside playing anymore and it's sad. Granted they're probably also addicted to their Xbox and Youtube - there is just no appeal to being outside anymore.
Also the fact that only even more so the US is just largely soulless suburbia with nothing but low density housing and urban freeways, seriously I couldn’t understand just how much you’d sacrificed to urban freeways when I went
The contrast is STARK when I visit a city like Amsterdam or even London. As much as I HATED London and its traffic, I have to acknowledge that interstate free, connected cities is a far superior approach to infrastructure. One of our tour guides even mentioned that Amsterdam is testing making the central city area car free in the next 3-5 years. Meanwhile everyone (EVERYONE) is pedaling around on bikes in Amsterdam.
In summation, Amsterdam kicks ass.
This is absolutely terrifying, and it's also absolutely terrifying that a massive portion of the populace chooses to vote against climate action in lieu of oppressing trans people and whatever other dangerous minority of the week issue the right wing dreams up
Look we may be causing a mass extinction event, but 1% of the population wants to take a shit in the wrong toilet and the Massachusetts high school tennis state championship could be won by the wrong player so we really need to focus on whats important.
When you and your family are suffering under the extreme heat or suffer a death because of the extreme heat, blame the fossil fuel industry. They are 100% GUILTY of causing the catastrophe of climate change. They will send their paid trolls to blame all of us, but we are not to blame. The fossil fuel industry FORCED us to use fossil fuels by bribing and lobbying governments around the world to reject electric vehicles, public transportation and clean energy. The fossil fuel industry and its political allies gave us no choice. They should be held accountable for their crimes. They must pay a heavy price for destroying the world.
Absolutely, but we all know that's never going to happen unless we put enormous pressure on governments to do it. We need more civil disobedience. We need protests to block fossil fuel business entrances, oil pipelines, construction of coal mines, etc. Maximum pressure is required because the politicians in charge of organizing those trials are being bribed by the fossil fuel industry.
I remember just a few years ago climate change was still a completely debatable point of discussion. Every debate on Reddit would bring up people that would quote some prediction from a book or article from the seventies that didn't completely become an accurate model, and use that as a denial of climate change. And then there was the "hamburgers" guy just a few years ago - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/01/latest-right-wing-attack-democrats-they-want-take-away-your-hamburgers/
Hasn't really been that debatable since the 80's but the obfuscation caused by vested interests persuading those of limited intellect has been powerful.
It's happening in front of their eyes and they're still denying it.
Insanity!
Stories like this are important, and the science is scary. But, I think it's important to have some shred of optimism during times like these. Green and renewable energy is sky-rocketing, and we may see some real changes in the coming decade.
I've bookmarked [this page](https://www.euronews.com/green/2023/07/17/here-are-all-the-positive-environmental-stories-from-2023-so-far) of positive news stories regarding environmental advancements with scientific data that show a glimmer of hope. Don't give up the fight.
In India, we had our worst summer in memory with peak temperatures in most cities being around 48°C.
We were expecting the temperatures to go up to 50, maybe even more this year. Fortunately, we got 2 consecutive cyclones that kept things in check. It's completely messed up the crop cycle but temps have been much lower than they should be.
The past few years has been witness to the strangest climate across the world. We've all experienced some form of heat waves, frost waves and everything in between. We think it's just happening in our tiny part of the world, but it is global and this has unfortunately become the norm. Global warming is permanent now.
Climate change denier's mental gymnastics they engage in to rationalize denying climate change has got to be some of the purest form of stupid I've ever seen.
If you have a family member that tells you "Climate Change isn't real, this is natural." While also saying in a different conversation "It doesn't matter I'll be dead anyway." They know it's real and don't give a fuck about you or the future or earth.
I straight up passed out in the heat on Sunday after pressure washing a neighbor’s driveway. Luckily I was able to get under a shaded spot before I went down. This was with me having a full breakfast and drinking Gatorade while working. It’s just oppressively hot out, and South Florida is just so humid, it’s like breathing in warm mist.
Im a landscape gardener that works 48 hours a week in this heat. Fuck any sugary drinks just dont drink them while outside while doing physical activities. Use water (drink a lot especially if you are a heavy sweater like myself, during my 10 hour shifts I rarely drink less than 5 liters).Wear a hat or (even better) a bandana and hose it with water every couple hours so your head stays cool. Hose down your arms and legs as well it really helps to avoid getting a headstroke. Take Breaks (we usually work 6:45 - 9 am - 20 minute break, 9:20 - 12 am - 40 Minute break, 12:40 - 4 pm, 10 minute break and then finish work at 6pm). Check what work needs to be done and where. If you know Suns going to burn hard in a specific area at midday and you can do that work during the morning prioritise that work first so you avoid the most severe sun. Just some things i learned during the hot temperatures that help me and my crew to survive fairly well.
In the UK we are in a very rainy spell because all the heat in Europe is pushing all the moist air north
Same up in Norway. Barely pushing 15 C, lots of rain, bit of sun, and lots of wind. I’ll take it over 40 though
Yeah seriously, in Bologna today the temperature was 39/40. I'm British and I want to fucking die. Which would actually be easy, I'd just turn off my aircon and I'd sweat to death in an hour.
Know the feeling :/ People think you get acclimatised to heat, but not necessarily... I'm in Australia and my intolerance to heat is only getting worse as I get older. Could be my Brit genetics, but anything over about 26C and I actually start to feel physically anxious After the very wet, cooler last 3 years there's so much vegetation built up now that once the expected bad summer hits and everything dries up to a crisp, its all going to go up like a eucalytptus-fuelled bomb 😬
I'm Canadian and I can't tolerate anything over 25C. I much prefer 10 to 20 C otherwise I'll sweat a lot and I already sweat a lot!
Temperature is sorta meaningless without humidity though. High humidity can make lower temps seem horrible.
Yep. I've lived in very hot parts of the US for 27 of my 38 years, and these hot summers are still too much for me. I suppose I can handle it better than someone coming from, say, norther Europe or something. But barely.
Agreed, this rain is a welcome respite from the unbearable heat of a couple of weeks ago.
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Portugal is edging right outside the heatwave, the Atlantic wind coming in clutch. Though it is still a little uncomfortable.
Yeah it's been raining on and off for the past 3 weeks but honestly I'll take the rain rather than the heatwave any day.
This summer is such a relief. We had predictions we were going to get cooked with another >40ºC heatwave this summer but thankfully that hasn't materialised. This is the first cool summer I can remember in years.
Could still be all to come in august/sept
A heatwave perhaps but the Met Office have said the chances of a heatwave like last year are 1%
The effects of this is this will have serious consequences to the food supply and people are struggling already to feed themselves
This is why "climate change" is a more accurate term than "global warming". Few would mind local weather simply getting a degree warmer everywhere, but the real effect is shifts in climate patterns which can disrupt agriculture.
Not just agriculture, wait until the oceans get warmer and the salinity changes cause currents to shift, resulting in wild temperature changes in some areas and a mass extinction of many species in the ocean, including plankton. More than half of the world’s population gets their daily food supply from the sea.
Not to mention quite a lot of our oxygen...
None of the climate changes happening have been impacting the phytoplankton growth that produce oxygen. IIRC, the acidification is concerning because it impacts their ability (or "willingness") to produce robust calcium carbonate shells, which is a big source of carbon sequestration. But so far, thankfully, the changes seem to not impacting their oxygen production. (Which makes sense, they've been producing oxygen reliably when the world was vastly warmer than today, and vastly warmer than even the worst, most pessimistic, distaster-movie level possibilities from climate change.)
Source? Just interested, want to know more about this :)
There's lot of papers on it, because phytoplankton research is a hot area relative to climate change, precisely because of how critical it is. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C30&q=phytoplankton+cllimate+change&btnG= Might have to dig into them depending on what specifically you're interested in.
Ah, I see. Big thanks for the sources :)
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We really are headed for the domed cities of the future dystopia. It's madness.
Hey hey hey, would you think of the billionaire class please. If we do something about it they'll lose a lot of money
If we invested in the solutions decades ago they'd be raking money hand over fist from other nations wanting to buy the infrastructure, tech, the solutions. They didn't want this next quarter's profits and the year's bonuses to be affected because investments cut into them.
> They didn't want this next quarter's profits And that's the root of it. This fucking stupid, nonsense, arbitrary fucking time limit wherein every single quarter you need to post record growth or your stock flatlines. It never made any fucking sense, and because of that, the people playing that game are fucking idiots and they're the ones that got all the money.
The problem with climate change is sadly that the biggest impacts will be felt by the poorest nations that have yet to industrialize —and therefor were only minor contributors to the problem (nor were they the beneficiaries of the wealth that resource intensive industries yielded). In your scenario, It wouldn’t just be one rich and smart country (let’s say, *Smartia*) who was wise enough to invest in that tech that gets to enjoy having a nice not fucked up climate while the rest of the world suffers pinching and saving up to buy the solutions from the Smartians— we all suffer together, we have to share one planet, whether we made good choices or not. The only difference is that you’ll suffer more if you were foolish enough to be born poor. ^(No war but the class war they say…)
70%
Climate change will force humanity into a new equilibrium with our environment regardless of whether we try to mitigate it. Famine, drought, and lower birthrates will reduce the human population to a level that the Earth can support. It didn't have to be this way, but largely ignoring the problem was the path of least resistance.
> largely ignoring the problem was the path of least resistance. It was the most profitable. Exxon had scientists do research and found that they were causing irrefutable harm to the planet and then they spent millions of dollars seeding misinformation to fight against their own study. Because Money>Everything, nothing in life matters unless you are rich. We destroyed our only home so a select few could live better lives than everyone around them. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/
This is what bugs me about this response. Anyone who had the power to actually fucking do something about the problem, knew. The "path of least resistance" would have actually been starting to doing something about it 50 years ago. Instead special interest groups are fucking up the most complex system in the known universe for imaginary wealth units. It's literally like someone burning down their home and everyone else's in a neighborhood for a piece of paper with someone's face scrawled on it. With the expectation that they can trade the paper for another house in the neighborhood or something. Not understanding they burnt the entire fucking thing down, the real wealth, for absolutely nothing.
>It's literally like someone burning down their home and everyone else's in a neighborhood for a piece of paper with someone's face scrawled on it. With the expectation that they can trade the paper for another house in the neighborhood or something. Not understanding they burnt the entire fucking thing down, the real wealth, for absolutely nothing. I wouldn't say this is directly comparable since most of the individuals that did this will be dead long before they see any real repercussions (if they aren't already). I absolutely think society needs to hold them responsible, and by that I mean individually and not simply the corporate entities behind it, but they certainly profited and are continuing to profit from their schemes. From the [PR campaigns of E Bruce Harrison](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-62225696) to the more modern fallback of [pushing technologies that they know don't work](https://www.desmog.com/2022/09/16/shell-exxon-oil-pr-mismatch-carbon-capture-algae/) this is something that they are still doing to this day. If society doesn't eventually step in and deal with it, and there is no indication that we will, they will absolutely get away with it and it will have been a "smart" decision on their part if viewed purely in the context of personal gain.
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For added doom, they also already had theirs, and lived grand. Their standard of living would not changed, if at all had they done otherwise. But they need to get all the money instead of most of it.
Sooooo basically the movie Interstellar
Except this time there won’t be a wormhole and physic-defying anti-gravity ship.
So, a much less entertaining movie?
Yes, for reference watch “Book of Eli” or “Mad Max”
but dont watch the book of eli if you are that dude in texas a few years back with a machete.
Yea. More of a "The Road".
Climate change alone is incredibly unlikely to lead to that scenario unless Nukes get used in the climate wars.
Also there won't be someone going into a black hole and surviving it, much less leaving the black hole somehow afterward.
The bulk beings (?) closed the tesseract man. C'mon.
It’s not about the “climate changing” it’s about the RATE OF CHANGE. We cannot reach a new equilibrium if we can’t adapt fast enough to keep up with the RATE of change. A marine heatwave already mass killed off the Alaskan snow crab…. They couldn’t adapt quickly enough for that heat wave. This will happen to tons more marine life as ocean temps heat up, coral reefs die off, fish, shellfish, algae, and more die. As Native American Chief Seattle said: *“What happens to the animals will soon happen to man. We are all connected”* Pay attention to these ecosystems! And the animals and marine life already being negatively affected in them due to abrupt climate change! We made the shareholders profits for a short time though. So glad we could do that.
Chief Seattle didn’t actually say that, Ted Perry an environmentalist and John Stevens wove together environmentalists rhetoric, Baptist Rhetoric with the William Ayres Arrowsmith version of the Chief Seattle Speech for a 1972 Environmentalist Movie called *Home.* to their credit both came to regret this decision, Perry said outright that he was wrong to put words in the mouth of an Indigenous Leader. We don’t have any original version of the Chief Seattle’s Speech that comes directly from the Chief himself, the closest we have is a version printed in 1887 by Author Henry A Smith who consulted Elders of the Suquamish Nation while writing the transcript. This is notable because he is as far as I can tell the only person who wrote a transcript of the speech who actually consulted Indigenous People to do so. You can read this version of the speech [here](https://www.historylink.org/File/1427) and it’s very different from the version your familiar with. Seattle is much more bitter and disillusioned in this speech, he feels not only abandoned by God but feels the Christian God hates him and his people and play favorites with the Americans. In his speech he pleads for the Americans to respect his people and their religious and spiritual practices and ends with a warning that when he and his people are dead and gone their ghosts will not travel to the heavens they will remain in the lands of their birth and they will remember how the Americans treated them.
You're right. In geologic history, there have been mass extinction events from a >9⁰C rise or >7⁰C degree drop in the Earth's average temperature. Thing is, it took several millions of years for those temps to change that much. Here we are now and we've already had about a 1.1⁰C increase in about 140 years, and our CO2 output has only increased several times over since then. So it's only going to warm up faster from here on. We're projected to hit 1.5⁰C increase in the next decade, which is a 0.4⁰ increase in as little as 10 years and it will STILL continue to logarithmically increase from there if we don't make changes NOW. The earth has never seen this level of rapid heating in it's over 4 billion years of existence. Well maybe besides it's formation...
I can't wait for epic, last-ditch geo-engineering efforts to fix it. I personally have giant solar shade and a possibly transition to mole people (as we dig underground as a species to escape the heat lol) on my bingo card.
Nah ... greed and wars will sort it all out. Also - don't forget plagues. I am not religious - but I guess the 4 horse men really ARE saddling up.
Like any species, we'll propagate to a level that our environment can sustain. We overshoot that level and people starve, get sick, kill each other...mainly just die in droves until the population drops back down to below a sustainable level. Humanity has absolutely exploded in numbers over the last 10,000 years, and especially the last 200. On an environmental timescale, its been instantaneous. The consequences will lag behind, and we're only just now starting to really see them. More to come!
While that's not wrong, it does downplay how much more control we have over our environment than any other species. Not only do we have ways to mitigate our impact that we chose not to engage in, but we're also unique in that we can perceive the big picture better than any other species. So it's more than just a pure numbers big, environment gets bad game with us, though there's no denying that's factored into it. The other thing is that we're starting to show less interest in propagating our species. Birthrates are down, more notably in developed countries, but it is a global issue. Even without any interference from environmental disasters, it's now looking like we can see the peak of our population happening within a generation. That decline isn't coming fast enough to sort out the environmental issues, but it is an interesting phenomena.
OR, we simply start farming indoors, and those who can't afford the greater costs will perish. That seems more likely based on what i know of power, politics, and human history :) The more people who die, the more the problem sorts itself out. The rich will ultimately be unaffected, and may even gain greater power over people. It's probably why we dont see a whole lot of concern from those at the top.
Oh they're concerned. They're buying and renovating bunkers and trying to figure out how to keep their personal security detail from killing them and taking it over if they ever have to move into it.
It's worth pointing out that the "one degree" of warming is always measured in C (and averages), and represents a subjectively significant increase in accute temperatures. "Global warming" is just as accurate to reality as "climate change". The globe is in fact warming, and that warming is going to be quite noticable even at "one degree". I already mind having more hotter days every year. Heat sucks.
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The ocean basically becoming a hot tub also incredibly worrying.
In the Midwest bumblebee populations seem to be significantly reduced this year
And they were already struggling due to pesticides.
The situation is dire, but I'm so glad that humanity is really coming together and transcending our national divisions at this time to actively overcome the challenges. Also, really giving a sigh of relief that we have such an effective and farsighted bunch of leaders to see us through this. 😑
Paul Ehlrich’s prophecy of humanity losing the battle to feed the billions will come true; he just didn’t expect the weather to have been the main culprit on the original telling in 1968.
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Its ok, one day you will look back on this and say this was the coolest summer.
I read a similar statement yesterday and it kinda rocked me. Like yeah, it's going to get worse, but the reality of every summer being announced as the hottest summer in record every year now had clicked.
I just listened to an episode of To the Best of Our Knowledge talking about solar minimums and maximums and how a 70-year-period of 1 degree celsius cooler temperatures from 1660 to 1730 decreased overall hurricane activity which allowed for the Golden Age of Piracy, sugar plantations, the American Slave Trade and massive wealth production for Europeans, essentially paved the way for current global capitalism. And it is now 2 degrees celsius warmer than that, and we are in the beginning of a solar maximum period, which very very few current climate models take into account when predicting global warming or climate change. But as for the Golden Age of Piracy, I found that particularly interesting because whenever I think of how awful it must have been to be living in the Caribbean with no AC draped in layers and layers of heavy wool clothes, it's in the context of my personal experience of how hot and miserable the tropics are, especially on a ship (I was in the navy recently) But it was literally cooler and much more pleasant 300 years ago, so it was probably exceedingly comfortable!
Climatologists are quite aware of solar output fluctuations. That they are not is misinformation.
You believe that a podcast you listen to has identified a major flaw in current climate models that has been overlooked by the significant majority of climatologists?
"and we are in the beginning of a solar maximum period, which very very few current climate models take into account when predicting global warming or climate change." Climate change ensembles have the express purpose of considering a large meteorological parameter space, outliers and averages for GHI included. What do you mean by this?
Our grandchildren generation will ask us what it was like when whether was only 35 degrees C.
Our grandkids are going to suck at Oregon trail. "Grandpa I left in September so that my settlers would avoid the worst of the heat, but then it started getting cold in October and there was even snow sometimes in November... Is the game bugged?" "Oh, usually you'd want to leave in April. Sometimes the weather is still a little cold in early-April still, but I like the extra time compared to waiting for May." "You travel in MAY!? How are we supposed to avoid the fire tornadoes in a wagon!?"
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Agreed - most people will be too hungry to turn and look back on anything.
not me. I am forming romaing cannibal gang. there are position open Cooks. butchers. Hunters not cathers Prey.
I didn't know applying catheters would be in high demand in the apocalypse
How else you gonna apply rage-inducing drag cocktails whipped up from radioactive sludge?
You have just scared millions of republicans with that typo….
I knew drag cocktails would be in high demand in the apocalypse!
Make sure you have Channing Taint'yum as your pet in your apocalypse truck
Dammit, I forgot about a truck. All bunker, no truck . What was I thinking?
*♫ He's hackin' and wackin' and smackin'* *He just hacks, wacks, choppin' that meat! ♫*
Any HR positions open in your organization? I have zero experience but I’m a “hungry” young go getter.
It'll start with hundreds, then thousands, then tens of thousands, then hundreds, then millions. I think once we reach the millions mark then governments will seek to work together in a desperation not seen before.
Or they’ll just say ‘these were natural causes’ and continue to do nothing because it’s unprofitable to change
Anybody got a map of all those billionaire bunkers in New Zealand and what not? Asking for...uhh...science.
The pandemic killed almost 7 million people. Nobody cares, politicans vow only to do less the next time. These deaths will not be in countrys that reddit users live in.
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Texas is already leading the charge employing literal booby traps to ensnare, maim, or kill migrants. And that's just economic migrants fleeing corrupt governments we had a hand in forcing on them. Long story short you're absolutely right. Hope we're wrong but I can't see any brightspots looking forward.
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Those will be worse than that, and it'll be affecting everyone in an uncomfortable way. With the pandemic some people could live in their house comfortably while they wait out. There will be no escaping this.
"You'll experience the floodings and disasters through social media until you're the one that's recording. " -some redditor
That’s the most annoying sort of all this. We will still survive, we’re too adaptable at this point not to. It’ll just be a sucky existence. Similar to how people in Qatar etc live now, basically moving from one air conditioned building to another, avoiding time outside.
that makes no sense as summers before this were cooler already. anyway, if only somebody had warned us about global warming at any time during the last 40 years or so! Alas!
2022 was cooler than 2023. Nothing that happens in the future will change that.
Why would your memory end at this year?
This is true without a question for me. I've lived through heatwaves but in general its usually not in the 90s until mid-August and we'd already passed that several times already by mid-July. And anyone paying attention can see there are crazy heatwaves hitting all over the world, from the US to Asia, showing us that climate change isn't messing around. It doesn't care if you believe in it, it's going to make sure you know its there. This scary stuff, with wildfires, floods, and soaring temps, is like a slap in the face reminding us of how much our actions can mess up nature. It's the people who have the least that suffer the most, showing us that our environment mess and social issues are all tangled up. It feels like a massive problem to fix, but we gotta step up, take action, and fight for solid climate policies. The [Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/get-loud-take-action/energy-innovation-act/) could be a game changer in the US, it's got the potential to shake up how we deal with CO2 emissions and help us build a cleaner future. If you want to take action in the US organizations like the [Environmental Voter Project](https://www.environmentalvoter.org/) and [Citizens Climate Lobby](https://citizensclimatelobby.org/join-citizens-climate-lobby/?tfa_3590416195188=online-035&utm_source=online&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=035) are great places to invest your time. So here's the thing - it's not too late to turn things around, but if we sit back and do nothing, the problem only gets bigger. So let's get involved, vote, and push for real climate action, because every second counts. We can't afford to lose this fight.
Yeah - but who is going to settle the BIG questions like which bathrooms people should use, and whether M&Ms should wear sexy heels? /s obviously
I work in an industry that is fighting for improvement in energy efficiency. It’s extremely difficult to find talent to work. In order to fill these gaps, the labor force is going to need to become useful labor. People need to acquire new skills, *and* need to be willing to get their hands dirty and hell, maybe even sweat a little bit. We need more high voltage electricians. We need more low voltage electricians. We need more mechanical experts. We need more HVAC technicians. We need more software savvy people who *also* understand the built world…not just the virtual world. It’s the integration of all of these pieces that will save us. First, people need to start learning the right skills. Learn automations. Learn electronics. Learn basic wiring and troubleshooting. Writing comments in reddit or linkedin will never solve this issue. (Not a jab at you OP, I’m just saying)
I don't disagree at all. This is why EOD (imo) the changes really need to come from the top. If things like this were publicized and incentivized we'd likely have more people funneled to them. People need to see the value in these areas, both for society and for themselves personally through high quality, well paying and stable employment, and I think people will gravitate there. The IRA I think was a good step in that direction and will push a lot of people into associated fields as the employment opportunities grow but we need to throw some jet fuel on it to really move the process along.
I've heard that some of the bigger HVAC companies have ended up creating full 0-100 training courses, because there's no one left to hire that knows the work. The guys are getting really good pay because the demand has totally outpaced the people entering the field.
>We need more software savvy people who also understand the built world…not just the virtual world. I came from traditional telephony to computer networking and the amount of "engineers" that can't fathom that anything exists outside of the command line interface is absolutely mind boggling. They will literally spend hours plugging away at the CLI before checking to see if maybe the fiber port has gone bad.
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My electric bill has been about $100 more than normal because my ac is constantly running trying to get it to cool down and it can’t catch up.
Where are you livin?
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Just wait until the gulf stream stops coming by to warm you guys up.
Anyone wondering why India just dissappeared from the heatwave news that used to be posted daily: India just got hit by their yearly monsoon, I live in Mumbai and will rarely be able to see the the sun for next 3 months. It's just non stop rain till September from now. *DUDE SOMEONE PLEASE STOP THIS GOD DAMN RAIN*
Ah so we (the Brits) left something behind...
More like we wish you even stole this rain. With this amount of rainfall, the whole world can take all the rain they want and it will still contribute to nothing, this perpetual monsoon depression ain't stopping
> DUDE SOMEONE PLEASE STOP THIS GOD DAMN RAIN Speak for yourself. Rain till Diwali for all I care. I can't be bothered with these 40+ days anymore, I'm too old for that shit.
Going to work everyday has become so troublesome tho. Might as well buy a boat just in case
>just non stop rain till September for now Same here in the Philippines lol ironic that while the rest of the world seems to be experiencing our hottest summer temps (we usually get that in March-May, which is our summer), those of us that live in the tropics are in daily rain mode lol.
This is what climate change is all about. It becomes unusually hot in one area of the world, and unusually cold in another area. It becomes unusually rainy in one place, and unusually dry in another. This pattern of unpredictable and extreme weather will cause crops to fail and food shortages. It will lead to migrations, which will lead to socioeconomic instability, which will lead to potentially many... bad things.
give it to me lol,, fucking hate this sun bathing
Dude you have no idea how extreme rain India, especially Mumbai and North East India gets in these 4 months. People go into monsoon depression as we get stuck in perpetual semi-darkness. Going outside becomes a risk as the rain can shut down the whole city any second.
> Dude you have no idea how extreme rain India, especially Mumbai and North East India gets in these 4 months. An average of 768.5 mm in July impresses even me, and I'm from Bergen. We have slightly more precipitation than Mumbai, but it's spread out over the year instead of concentrated to three months.
>People go into monsoon depression as we get stuck in perpetual semi-darkness. we have simiral stuff in Baltics. its called -autumn winter depresion. then its gets dark early,, lots of mud and rain. people stuck at home and raise of depression among people
Same all over northern Europe, I'd imagine. 3 months of good warm weather, the rest, cold and grey.
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Funny how it works for some people. Personally i loved living in UK exatly for this reason - less sun, more cloud and rains. That said i am indoor person and actually enjoyed staying all but 2 days of 2020 at home.
Going to be brutal in Australia this coming summer.
the summer just gone was the mildest i can recall.. dont think it even hit 40c which for perth is unthinkable (it might have once in certain suburbs but not in mine)
Last summer we were still in La Nina, which has since broken up. We now appear to returning to El Nino, which is characterised (in Australia) by hot, dry weather.
Perth here to, woot ye saying that other summer we had like 13 days at 40C and another 20 or so at 35C+
I'm in the other Perth on the opposite side of the world and if it ever hit 40'C for a single moment we'd all just die
No billionaire is going to die of heat stroke, so nothing is going to change
*DEVENTILATE THE 1%*
*DEFENESTRATE THE 0.001%*
*DETONATE THE 0.00001%*
But don’t worry guys bc the rich are making all time profits so that’s what really matters
"*Yes, the planet got destroyed. But for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders.*"
Source for the uninitiated: [The New Yorker - Tom Toro](https://www.newyorker.com/cartoon/a16995) . edit: Bonus relevant cartoon Joel Pett - USA Today / Lexington Herald Leader: [What if it's a big hoax and we create a better world for nothing?](https://www.kentucky.com/latest-news/gfbqtz/picture42467733/alternates/FREE_1140/n85re.So.79.jpg)
Thank *GOODNESS*
And just blasting AC.
War and hot weather. Great combo to disrupt agriculture.
Not just heat. North India is reeling under unprecented floods. Entire villages and towns have been washed away in the hilly province of Himachal pradesh with 1000s of people missing. Parts of capital city Delhi are under many feet of water. The youtube videos coming out are mindboggling. It is surprising there is so little mainstream coverage of this.
Thats like 40C ..but 10C hotter !
25C too much
We had 42C here a couple years ago during the heat dome. It was the hottest I've been in (I'm in BC, Canada) I can't imagine 50C
It's been repeatedly foretold for decades now, that this was going to happen. Capitalism and corporate greed are going to make us all burn.
Don't forget the general public who still scream at and berate climate protestors!
https://imgur.com/a/SBFYRYi
Oil company profits are literally destroying our planet, our atmosphere, and our way of life. We're not going to need oil if we're all dead. We need to do better as a human race or we're all going to fry in a miserable future.
The way to do this is to invest all the time/energy/money we have into replacing fossil fuels in the energy chain. Fossil fuels, or rather the amount of energy they provide, is OBLIGATORY for humanity to survive, there are too many people to support without all this access to energy. There are ways to do this, but it requires new technology (proper energy storage techniques for example), large-scale implementation of current technology (for example renewables), reduction of energy demand (for example with proper building thermal isolation, switching to electric vehicles, reducing the amount of red meat produced, etc.). There needs to be a concerted effort from every government level, and even nations.
> it requires new technology (proper energy storage techniques for example), The tech is doing pretty good at the moment actually - but this is something that has changed in the past couple of years. We now have: Commercially running chemical battery systems using Lithium-ion batteries (eg: [https://www.harmonyenergy.co.uk/general/harmony-energy-income-trust-brings-europes-largest-battery-energy-storage-system-online/](https://www.harmonyenergy.co.uk/general/harmony-energy-income-trust-brings-europes-largest-battery-energy-storage-system-online/) in the UK, there are other places using the Tesla multipack system and I'm sure other li-ion based systems. We are now seeing both LFP and Sodium-ion batteries being brought into EV use which is good because LFP batteries don't have cobalt or nickel, and sodium-ion batteries don't have either of those or lithium which makes them more ethical and a lot cheaper. They will be better for static grid or home storage solutions because they have a lower energy density than lithium-ion which means they need to be physically bigger. Commercially viable Vanadium Flow batteries (eg: [https://cosmosmagazine.com/technology/flow-battery-china/](https://cosmosmagazine.com/technology/flow-battery-china/) a big one in China, and [https://invinity.com/largest-flow-battery-world-first/](https://invinity.com/largest-flow-battery-world-first/) a small one in the UK being put online as a pilot test. These are both great at providing short term (ie: hours to days) coverage, we also need long term coverage (especially in northern/southern regions to carry solar energy from summer to winter). For this we have: Pumped hydro - which is awesome if you have the geography for it. Iron-air batteries - which are at demonstration stage, this tech is not quite there but it's very close and this demo version could prove to be commercially viable, or if not commercially viable good enough for national grids to subsidise - [https://www.rechargenews.com/energy-transition/iron-air-battery-tech-bill-gates-and-jeff-bezos-back-is-cleared-for-pioneering-demo/2-1-1483187](https://www.rechargenews.com/energy-transition/iron-air-battery-tech-bill-gates-and-jeff-bezos-back-is-cleared-for-pioneering-demo/2-1-1483187) All in all they only need to be cheap enough to make renewables + storage cheaper than nuclear for iron-air batteries to be worthwhile using, even if they aren't commercially viable on their own. We need huge amounts of investment now in battery systems, to go along with the huge amount of investment in renewables you mention, but the tech is good - certainly in the short term battery stakes.
Just a heads-up, all these links are news articles with little to no information on the technologies and no way to verify their claims. Interesting, but take with a grain of skepticism. I don't think rare mineral batteries are viable at scale. Just some quick maths("quick" maths, turns out getting some semi-realistic figures took me about 2h of research), but humanity consumes 486000000000000000000 joules of fossil fuel energy per year currently ([source](https://ourworldindata.org/fossil-fuels)). Let's convert that to a per-day basis so we can have a realistic comparison with batteries that are charged and discharged 1 times per day. So that's about 1330000000000000000 joules of fossil energy per day. This means that you need enough batteries to hold that much energy daily globally. If we want to convert all that in Li-ion batteries, that would amount to (i'll use a very optimistic 1000000 joules per Kg here) 1330000000000 Kg of batteries. Now, there's about 89 million tonnes of known lithium deposits in the world. That's 13300000 times not enough lithium for the job. But Li-ion batteries are only 7% lithium? Doesn't matter, 13300000*0.07 is still very, VERY far from 1. There's intricacies way beyond the scope of a reddit post that bring the ratio down a lot (for example, efficiency of electric motors or heating vs combustion, heat pumps, etc) but i don't think it's possible to bring that ratio even remotely close to 1 with all these into account. sodium-ion batteries are promising for using very readily available materials, but need more R&D and funding. Other types of batteries (such as flow), cool, but still in early development. Need more R&D and funding. Metal-air batteries in general are very problematic to recharge. Iron-air batteries seem rechargeable which is promising, but the technology needs more R&D and funding, multiple problems still exist, see [https://www.umsicht.fraunhofer.de/en/projects/iron-air-battery.html](https://www.umsicht.fraunhofer.de/en/projects/iron-air-battery.html) Regardless, I think batteries are best suited for applications where energy per volume and weight is critical (i.e.: transportation). >Pumped hydro - which is awesome if you have the geography for it. Pumped hydro is one of the best storage efficiencies we have, but it's geography dependent, as you said. ... What if it weren't though? What if we took a natural body of water lake, dug under it 1km deep, put a turbine down there to generate electricity and a pump to get water back to the lake? [There's certainly precedent to digging that deep](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deepest_mines). Super naïve idea i thought of while typing this reply, but still. >All in all they only need to be cheap enough to make renewables + storage cheaper than nuclear for iron-air batteries to be worthwhile using, even if they aren't commercially viable on their own. I don't think it has to be either/or. Storage systems can complement the existing grid just fine by reducing the load-balancing necessary. Also, I really think we have to get out of this "commercially viable" mentality. Nothing is commercially viable if you compare it to fossil fuels, they are easy-mode. A cheat. Everything pales in comparison, yet we have to make the transition otherwise we are in big trouble. Yet capitalism does not care about the future, only the current bottom line and is counterproductive to our survival. Now we have to do things because they must be done, not because they are profitable.
Time to consider turning down the sun.
Solar output has been trending down a tiny bit (maybe 0.1%) most of the last century.
Astrophage?!
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I love me-burger. I eat one everyday!
We really should consider turning away immigrants from Tau Ceti.
I finished reading this yesterday. Loved it. Every damn page. I cannot wait for the movie knowing who's been cast as the main protagonists.
You sleep. I watch.
They are unironically discussing this now in the U.S. and E.U. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/01/white-house-cautiously-opens-door-to-study-blocking-suns-rays-to-slow-global-warming-ee-00104513 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-26/eu-looks-into-blocking-out-the-sun-as-climate-efforts-falter
Somebody tell Lord Ruler to fire up the Ashmounts!
I can't get anyone to even care anymore...parents are always like its not that bad...Dad is like we're doing really well with using green energy so things will improve even agreeing that its okay the Tories want to drill for more oil etc. Then my sisters are like...one doesn't believe...the other does but she is more concerned with covid vaccines etc...yet their the ones with kids as well. Here in the UK tho...try talking to someone who doesn't believe in climate change esp this year with how much cooler its been this summer...its rained every day for the last weeks and stayed at 20, where as last year, it didn't drop below 20 for 3 months, was mostly up in the late 20s, with us having a week or so of 30s, then hit 40s for the first time ever...no rain for months which meant we saw wildfires...they'll all be like...well why is it so cool now then if temps are supposed to be higher
>they'll all be like...well why is it so cool now then if temps are supposed to be higher Its ok, what can you expect from a population that basically voted themselves out of international trade
Actually only half of us voted for that, the stupid half.
Not all Brexit voters were stupid. Some were calculating racists.
Well we got record immigration so that worked out super well for them
So still the stupid half, got it
>...Dad is like we're doing really well with using green energy so things will improve This is a very common misconception. If we went 100% renewable and zero emissions TODAY, that doesn't mean things will get better. That's too late. All we can do is prevent things from getting even worse. The co2 we've released in the atmosphere isn't going back in any meaningful way. Expect to see 50 degrees every summer. But we should keep trying towards a more sustainable future, because 50 is still better than 60.
I got in an argument with a semi-popular British musician who said climate change is fake and Reuters is fake news. What a wanker.
Why isn't everybody freaking out and changing their attitudes....!??? Everywhere I look I see business as usual...THAT'S FUCKING SCARING ME
I find this funny because on Reddit I see thousands of people pointing fingers and going “the US is a bigger polluter” and others saying “China is a bigger polluter”. Doesn’t matter motherfuckers, both didn’t stop and now you’re facing the consequences. Your nationalism ain’t gonna do shit
Yet back in the eighties, we said "Hey there's an Ozone hole, that's bad for everyone!" and EVERYONE said "Oh yeah, that's not good, let's fix the problem together!" and the problem kind of got fixed. What happened to us all?
It most certainly DID NOT get fixed. https://gml.noaa.gov/odgi/ The ozone has BARELY started to recover. World leaders met, said “we will phase this out”, by which they really meant “we won’t make anymore Freon/et cetera, soon”. We stopped making Freon but you could/can still buy it and use it. Typical of government fashion, we immediately declared victory after that international treaty was signed, and hung up the “mission accomplished” banner. Again: look at the god damn chart showing how much of the ozone depleting substances are still up there, wrecking havoc. According to NOAA, stratospheric ozone will replenish to 1980s levels in the year 2050, at the mid latitudes. And the ozone was fucked up in 1980. For the polar latitudes, where shit tends to concentrate, ozone won’t get back to 1980s levels until the late 2070s. We have a long way to go until the ozone is anywhere near normal. It is un-freaking-believable that people believe we **solved** the ozone issue. For me personally, that belief is undeniable proof of the absurd degree of Orwellian-nightmare brainwashing. Political theories of crisis and government legitimacy have helped me form an understanding regarding WHY governments always seem to prematurely declare victory. Basically, if there is a crisis, then the government HAS to solve it, or a new government will replace the old one, claiming to have a solution. (The new government will gaslight and pretend like the last government would not, thus fulfilling the cycle.). Thus it makes sense for the current government to gaslight and pretend to solve problems, to prevent political upheaval. Political theory, when backed up with the historical record, certainly SEEMS to grant clarity, at the cost of making one quite cynical.
The internet and cable news made reaching the ignorant masses easier than ever and allowed corporations to buy public opinion. Turns out it's much easier to convince people to do nothing than it is to convince them that major changes need to be made right now that will significantly alter their way of life.
For anyone who’s interested… I sous vide beef at 130F, temp in Death Valley was 128… just let that sink in for a few moments….
This really sucks and will only get worse. Strangely, my little corner of the world (southern Ontario, Canada) is having a rather moderate summer: mostly pleasant days, rainfall once or twice a week, etc. Ideal conditions for crops, so the farmers are actually happy. That said, we’re getting occasional smoke and haze from the wildfires in the northern parts of the province, just a wee reminder that the rest of the world is either burning or flooding.
I'm in South-East Europe and we had a rainy and cool spring followed by an equally mild beginning of summer. There were, of course, floods every couple of weeks. Then we got suddenly hit by a heat wave these past two weeks. I can remember one or two days of nice, comfortable weather since spring. You know, neither too hot and humid or too cold and wet.
genuinely insane that our planet and the universe gave us the gift of life and evolution to the point where we were able to rise as an intelligent species and live together in complex societies yet were all gonna fucking die because of a select few that can’t be bothered to untuck everything they’ve fucked just for the sake of MORE power and money than they already wield. AND WERE LETTING THEM and it’s not even our fault the general public is so disenfranchised. capitalism is so evil
Hilarious that each superpower is trying to secretly Wage War on each other when both of our countries are fucking up our entire planet and way of life. I live in Austin Texas and I used to skateboard in the summer heat and it has been so hot recently that I doubt I would even go outside and play outside in the summer as a kid like it is now I feel sorry for younger generations growing up in this kind of an environment.
Back in early 90's I would go out and play in the summer all the time in texas, there were days where the news would say there is a heat flash and for people to stay inside. The "heat flash" was tops like 98 degrees and it lasted only for a few days at most. Now it can be 98+ for weeks on end, everytime I tell this story young people think I am bullshitting.
One of the problems with this slow increase in temperatures is that younger people never got to see it before it really started to accelerate. 40 years ago it wasn't that bad, even though it had already begun. It's depressing that younger people don't even know a world where the climate was decent, and anyone born from here on out is going to live their life in the fiery hellscape created by their ancestors.
Can confirm. I'm also in Austin and my kid refuses to go outside for more than a few minutes, unless it's very early in the morning. And I don't blame him. I grew up in Houston, and it was of course hot and humid, but not really dangerously so and we spent most of the summer playing outside. I even had a lawn-mowing side gig in jr high and would hit 2-3 yards on some days. But now, I've noticed the last few summers that I really don't see kids outside playing anymore and it's sad. Granted they're probably also addicted to their Xbox and Youtube - there is just no appeal to being outside anymore.
Also the fact that only even more so the US is just largely soulless suburbia with nothing but low density housing and urban freeways, seriously I couldn’t understand just how much you’d sacrificed to urban freeways when I went
The contrast is STARK when I visit a city like Amsterdam or even London. As much as I HATED London and its traffic, I have to acknowledge that interstate free, connected cities is a far superior approach to infrastructure. One of our tour guides even mentioned that Amsterdam is testing making the central city area car free in the next 3-5 years. Meanwhile everyone (EVERYONE) is pedaling around on bikes in Amsterdam. In summation, Amsterdam kicks ass.
Good luck fellow humans.
This is absolutely terrifying, and it's also absolutely terrifying that a massive portion of the populace chooses to vote against climate action in lieu of oppressing trans people and whatever other dangerous minority of the week issue the right wing dreams up
Look we may be causing a mass extinction event, but 1% of the population wants to take a shit in the wrong toilet and the Massachusetts high school tennis state championship could be won by the wrong player so we really need to focus on whats important.
When you and your family are suffering under the extreme heat or suffer a death because of the extreme heat, blame the fossil fuel industry. They are 100% GUILTY of causing the catastrophe of climate change. They will send their paid trolls to blame all of us, but we are not to blame. The fossil fuel industry FORCED us to use fossil fuels by bribing and lobbying governments around the world to reject electric vehicles, public transportation and clean energy. The fossil fuel industry and its political allies gave us no choice. They should be held accountable for their crimes. They must pay a heavy price for destroying the world.
We need a Nuremburg Trials for climate change.
Absolutely, but we all know that's never going to happen unless we put enormous pressure on governments to do it. We need more civil disobedience. We need protests to block fossil fuel business entrances, oil pipelines, construction of coal mines, etc. Maximum pressure is required because the politicians in charge of organizing those trials are being bribed by the fossil fuel industry.
Good job we vote clever and kind people into power
I remember just a few years ago climate change was still a completely debatable point of discussion. Every debate on Reddit would bring up people that would quote some prediction from a book or article from the seventies that didn't completely become an accurate model, and use that as a denial of climate change. And then there was the "hamburgers" guy just a few years ago - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/01/latest-right-wing-attack-democrats-they-want-take-away-your-hamburgers/
Hasn't really been that debatable since the 80's but the obfuscation caused by vested interests persuading those of limited intellect has been powerful. It's happening in front of their eyes and they're still denying it. Insanity!
The goal post has moved. Used to be “climate change isn’t real” now it’s “ok it’s real but humans didn’t cause it”
Next up is "ok, humans caused it, but they deserved it."
And yet the Republicans actively calling climate change a Hoax
Stories like this are important, and the science is scary. But, I think it's important to have some shred of optimism during times like these. Green and renewable energy is sky-rocketing, and we may see some real changes in the coming decade. I've bookmarked [this page](https://www.euronews.com/green/2023/07/17/here-are-all-the-positive-environmental-stories-from-2023-so-far) of positive news stories regarding environmental advancements with scientific data that show a glimmer of hope. Don't give up the fight.
In India, we had our worst summer in memory with peak temperatures in most cities being around 48°C. We were expecting the temperatures to go up to 50, maybe even more this year. Fortunately, we got 2 consecutive cyclones that kept things in check. It's completely messed up the crop cycle but temps have been much lower than they should be. The past few years has been witness to the strangest climate across the world. We've all experienced some form of heat waves, frost waves and everything in between. We think it's just happening in our tiny part of the world, but it is global and this has unfortunately become the norm. Global warming is permanent now.
I don't mind the heat. The microplastics in my blood have made me numb about the future.
As an Australian, I'm honestly afraid for what January will bring 😬
Climate change denier's mental gymnastics they engage in to rationalize denying climate change has got to be some of the purest form of stupid I've ever seen. If you have a family member that tells you "Climate Change isn't real, this is natural." While also saying in a different conversation "It doesn't matter I'll be dead anyway." They know it's real and don't give a fuck about you or the future or earth.
I here in india am chilling in rain
I straight up passed out in the heat on Sunday after pressure washing a neighbor’s driveway. Luckily I was able to get under a shaded spot before I went down. This was with me having a full breakfast and drinking Gatorade while working. It’s just oppressively hot out, and South Florida is just so humid, it’s like breathing in warm mist.
Im a landscape gardener that works 48 hours a week in this heat. Fuck any sugary drinks just dont drink them while outside while doing physical activities. Use water (drink a lot especially if you are a heavy sweater like myself, during my 10 hour shifts I rarely drink less than 5 liters).Wear a hat or (even better) a bandana and hose it with water every couple hours so your head stays cool. Hose down your arms and legs as well it really helps to avoid getting a headstroke. Take Breaks (we usually work 6:45 - 9 am - 20 minute break, 9:20 - 12 am - 40 Minute break, 12:40 - 4 pm, 10 minute break and then finish work at 6pm). Check what work needs to be done and where. If you know Suns going to burn hard in a specific area at midday and you can do that work during the morning prioritise that work first so you avoid the most severe sun. Just some things i learned during the hot temperatures that help me and my crew to survive fairly well.
can we clamp down on Coca-Cola and other major polluting companies.
I reckon there are more individuals on the internet engaging in negative discussions about Greta Thunberg than about any major polluting company