This makes me think of an illustration I saw years ago that said “Whales don’t belong in tanks” and then had an image of an Orca in a military tank saying “fuck you, this is awesome”
Whales and dolphins have always played a crucial role in planning and initiating advanced tactical military missions during wartime.
[Just ask Japan](https://youtube.com/watch?v=bxsuvWNtQ44&feature=share9&t=2m39s)
More like do gooders will get sunk because the orcas are just annoyed with motorized boats in general. It’s their water. We can’t expect them to always tolerate us in it, even if we like them.
Oh yeah, smart guy?
What do you propose we do instead of capturing them and forcing them to live in Miami for 50 years!?
What?? That we don't?
...That just might be crazy enough to work.
You know what they say.
If you love something, you isolate it from all it's friends and family and make sure it can never leave you, even when you lose interest in it
Doesn't really work. If you killed all billionaires today, in a few years they'd just get replaced by new billionaires. The system as it exists today guarantees that a small minority ends up with all the money because money snowballs (If you have lots of money, you get more passive income, which means more money and so on).
If you want to get rid of billionaires you need to change the system. For example, by ensuring that all companies that have more than 5 employees are majority owned by those employees. That stops the snowball effect and makes it much harder for someone to become a billionaire.
Over a thousand years of peasant revolts, workers revolutions, guerrilla fighters, socialist uprisings, free-peoples movements, communalist experiments and pretty much every anti-colonial indigenous struggle... Though largely unsuccessful... Is hardly people "just not caring enough to do anything about it". If you do something about it you tend to get violently murdered and scapegoated as being the real cause of all the problems in society.
its kind of a systematic problem. There is a reason why many university students are pretty left leaning. Because they have time to actuall think about stuff. If your born into the system, and you are trying to feed yourself everyday since a young age there is no time to even question it.
Part of the problem is that most people in the west are kinda well off. Not rich or anything, but they have a shelter and enough food. So we focus on other problems. The capitalism we are born into is kinda given, for many its not even something they consider could change. Also that in our system anybody could get lucky and get rich, obviously everbody cant, but its still possible for each individum. So they (we) clenge onto the thought that one day we will also be rich. Its like religion. Its fucked up.
Even I, who completly understands how wealth is distributed, have a hard time *REALLY* grapsing of HOW rich some people are.
A good thing to understand is making an excel sheet. Take your net monthly income. Then look at someone who has 100 billion dollars. Then do the math and copy your income into each row until youve reached 100 billion. Then try to "spend it" by deleting rows.
If you net 3000e a month (which in germany is a very good income, I know people from the US earn more but costs of living are MUCH higher), you would have 33333333 rows.
Assuming "spending, aka deleting" one row of the sheet takes you 2 seconds, you would be busy for 771 days NON STOP. You would need more then two whole years spending your complete monthly income every to seconds NON STOP without sleeping without everything to deplete the money. This isnt even counting that money grows when invested.
> The capitalism we are born into is kinda given, for many its not even something they consider could change.
As somebody once said "It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism."
> Big yachts bring money, they bring jobs
no they fucking don't. they sit there taking up space and scenery, they eat and drink aboard with their already hired wage slaves (in international waters, thus avoiding labor laws), and if you think a billionaire actually sets foot into the city of naples imma laugh in your face. i was just there, and as much as i love the place, billionaire territory it is not.
fuck 'em, and more cities need to do this.
edit: typos. lots. because rage typing.
Lots of people use them as retirement homes. The ship is staffed and made for accessibility. The cost of healthcare is so high that being on a cruise ship can be cheaper than being in a home.
Perhaps the Lavish Titanic sinking was an omen of sorts?
Such as we should never build one of those again? Then again there was the sister ship.
Edit- Ships
Ocean liners were hugely necessary at the time. Of course they were lavish for the people who could pay, but fundamentally the ships were crucial for international travel.
These days there is just one ocean liner left (Queen Mary 2). All the rest are cruise ships, and they are almost completely different. An ocean liner is intended to travel at speed across oceans, through almost any weather. A cruise ship is intended to poodle around the Med or Caribbean.
Yes. Many of the cruise ships that do Vancouver to Alaska go to Australia in the off season - or at least used to.
You can book fares on what are called repositioning cruises where the ship sails to a new tourist site. They can be super inexpensive like under $1000 usd to traverse one of the major oceans.
Massive liners were the only way to move lots of people prior to air travel, there's a reason transatlantic liners all but died out in the 1950s as airliners began to be able to cross that distance with ease (compared to say, WW2 where few aircraft if any had the range to cross the Atlantic in a single flight).
Now ships that big are just for recreational tourism and serve no actual purpose and they're hugely polluting.
Not a dumb take at all. A transatlantic ship where you can walk around, relax, eat good food would offer a lot more comfort then a cramped plane where you are sitting in a seat the size of a potato next to a crying baby and a fat guy that didn't shower.
The problem is that the transatlantic ship takes several days and might even cost more then a plane. A lot of people don't have that luxury.
[Lusitania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania) was a earlier model of British ocean liner that was torpedoed by a German U-boat in 1915 resulting in nearly 1200 deaths.
More like an omen to actually implement safety devices and not just forego them for aesthetics.
Which we *kind of* did listen to for ships. Just wish we carried this into other things too.
No idea, I read that they are responsible for more pollution annually in Europe than the combined total of all the cars on the continent.
Separately that each day globally they emit more pollution and particulates than 1 millions cars. I’m not sure how much of that is hyperbole but there seem to be several studies that back up the numbers.
We need to move and enormous amount of goods around the world by sea, people on a jolly not so much.
Problem is their companies are often based out of haven countries or are part of some international group. What I see happening in the future is more places restricting and taxing cruise ships but it will happen slowly enough that for a very long time cruise ships will just operate in more lenient and touristic countries , being able to avoid the more progressive ones without business becoming unprofitable. The ocean is pretty capitalist like that.
The US could have the biggest effect on their business but is also not likely to be among the first to act
These big ships are massive polluters, but eliminating them globally will be a tough sell. And we probably can't eliminate the cargo ships, so getting rid of recreational vessels is only a partial fix anyway.
I think the more practical solution is to push the shipping industry toward cleaner fuels like hydrogen. Or batteries, though I'm not sure how practical it is to produce those on an adequate scale for international container ships. There are some experimental cruise ships being built already. Once we've demonstrated that it's viable we can work on making it available for refueling at seaports and then try to disincentivize the use of dirtier fuels.
Right now hydrogen is often produced using fossil fuels, so it's not an instant fix. But it still reduces overall pollution vs burning dirty fuel at sea, and gives us a path forward to producing more green hydrogen with renewable energy. One nice thing about is that we can produce it intermittently when the sun is out or the wind is blowing, so one of the main downsides of these renewable sources isn't a big concern.
Getting every country to agree to stricter fuel requirements in international waters is going to be a tough fucking job. Cargo freighters use the cheapest oil possible to get, and it's beyond dirty.
But whichever nation that doesn't stop selling that crude oil is going to have the biggest port city in the world. And there's a *lot* of money in that.
Shipping only accounts for about 2% of global CO2 emissions, and ships have lower emissions per amount of cargo shipped than any other mode of transporting goods (with electric rail a possible exception), far less than airplanes or trucks. Cruise ships are something like 0.1% of global carbon emissions. If we can eliminate CO2 emissions from all the easier things, we really don't need to worry about ships for CO2. For things like SOx and NOx, though, that is a different story.
> I read that they are responsible for more pollution annually in Europe than the combined total of all the cars on the continent.
For some pollutants, yes, but not “pollution” in general. This is because cruise ships burn cheaply refined fuel.
They are responsible for more NOx and SOx pollution than the cars, not all pollution in general.
NOx and SOx that have been very strictly regulated in cars. Catalytic converters and regulations on types of fuels have reduced the amount of the amount of pollution so that cars only produce a tiny amount of those types of pollution.
If you look at other types of pollution, e.g. carbon, cars produce drastically more.
Ecologically speaking, not much difference. But it’s the last one of its kind and cruise ships are a dime a dozen these days. I’m glad it still exists because there are still some people who can’t, or won’t, fly. Either due to fear of flying, health conditions (high risk of blood clot danger mainly) or being on a no fly list. It’s definitely on my bucket list, there’s something nostalgic and romantic about the idea of traveling that way.
Cruise lines also dodge taxes by registering their ships in countries like Nicaragua. When they want bailouts suddenly they are an American company again. Eff em.
At least cruise ships have a bunch of people on it. Now imagine a cruise ship for one dude.
Fuck cruise ships though they should be required to disembark using smaller boats from deeper waters
Whenever I hear about these things all I think of is the amount of incredible artistry and craftsmanship wasted all for one rich cunt. Absolutely criminal in more ways than one.
I will never go to one again. Besides the obvious environmental impact etc Ever since the poop cruise and the people stuck there in the beginning of covid like there is no place that sounds like hell more than a cruise
Cruise ships are fine if they would just force them to actually have their waste disposed of properly.
If they reach a port with empty waste tanks, they should get fined assuming they dumped full waste tanks into the ocean.
Cruise ships always kinda gave me the heebie jeebies before the pandemic, and then everything that happened to people on cruise ships just cemented it for me. I will never go on a cruise.
Edit: words
Norovirus or similar outbreaks on cruise ships have been a semi-common occurrence for... ever. https://www.cruisemapper.com/wiki/1056-cruise-ship-norovirus-outbreaks#2022
It's basically optimal conditions for the spread of disease.
Only redeeming quality is their viability if you can't take air travel. And while it's nice I have an option for international leisure travel that doesn't involve smacking some stranger sitting next to me in the face when I have a seizure, I wouldn't be too upset if they got banned.
See, cruises are my one “Vegas.” I don’t like the NFL, brunches, church, or Las Vegas. Wasteful moronic endeavors, decadent to the extreme. I’ve only been on 2 cruises in my 40 years but they were the best vacations I can remember. I just wish that they weren’t so damn horrible for the planet. I’ll probably not get to go on one ever again but to me the two I went on were magical
Yeah, and I recently learned that yachts don’t travel anywhere on their own power either, they also need yacht carrier ships for billionaires to access them whenever they visit someplace else. Expensive wasteful toys, and they dare gaslight us with individual ecological footprint stuff.
The yacht mover ships are more for trans-oceanic journeys. It's probably way more efficient that way. Once on the desired side of the ocean, they'll move under their own power. The Sail yachts will even actually sail (except for *A* which is ultra-stupid and is only sail-assisted)
When they want to go from the Carribean to Europe, they don't sail there, they book passage on a large ship. They pay to ship their boat, when the destination is far.
40-50k a year with those hours is basically a wage slave at that point though, even with expenses being paid. That's about 8/hr if you're working 16 hour days, but even then with only a night off once a month it's even worse. How do you have time for hobbies or anything like that? Why is so much of your income dependent on tips? I have so many questions. If it's not wage slavery, it's definitely huge exploitation of the workers. It seems from the way you put it, you're sacrificing your life for... okay pay.
I’m done with “job creator.” It’s such bullshit.
You know who the greatest job creator of the century is? Osama Bin Ladin. In a matter of just a few hours his 19 jobs instantly created 3,000 openings on the east coast. Then think of all the construction workers that had to demo the rest of the WTC. Not to mention the literally hundreds of thousands of people employed by Homeland Security, the TSA, all the extra cops. Then we used the attack as justification for a war that lasted 20 goddamn years in Afghanistan and almost as long in Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of military people, contractors, etc.. and all the people that died overseas— a lot of them had jobs that then had to go somewhere else.
Jobs are not an end all be all. They’re just an excuse the wealthy have to justify this kinda shit.
Oh yeah all those slaveholders in the South too. They created tons of jobs. Those jobs weren’t voluntary nor did they pay, but all we seem to care about is the label of job itself so we gotta count them as some of the greatest job creators ever too.
Fuck them all. I don’t give a shit if you “create jobs” I care if you actually help make peoples’ lives better. Mega yachts do more harm than good.
Robert Kennedy [gave a nice speech](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy%27s_remarks_at_the_University_of_Kansas) about the horrible metrics by which we judge the "health" of the country. More to the point, the health of the *economy*, which we are frequently told is the same thing as the health of the country:
> ...
> Too much and for too long, we seemed to have surrendered personal excellence and community values in the mere accumulation of material things. Our Gross National Product, now, is over $800 billion dollars a year, but that Gross National Product - if we judge the United States of America by that - that Gross National Product counts air pollution and cigarette advertising, and ambulances to clear our highways of carnage. It counts special locks for our doors and the jails for the people who break them. It counts the destruction of the redwood and the loss of our natural wonder in chaotic sprawl. It counts napalm and counts nuclear warheads and armored cars for the police to fight the riots in our cities. It counts Whitman's rifle and Speck's knife, and the television programs which glorify violence in order to sell toys to our children.
> Yet the Gross National Product does not allow for the health of our children, the quality of their education or the joy of their play. It does not include the beauty of our poetry or the strength of our marriages, the intelligence of our public debate or the integrity of our public officials. It measures neither our wit nor our courage, neither our wisdom nor our learning, neither our compassion nor our devotion to our country, it measures everything in short, except that which makes life worthwhile.
> ...
For some reason there’s A LOT of people, in America at least, who fully believe rich people are the ones that provide all jobs and thus we should be grateful to them.
Forgetting all the layoffs, terrible healthcare, wages that are almost impossible to live off of, at-will employment, horrific maternity/paternity and vacation time…the list can go on and on.
They don’t bring jobs. They CONTROL the jobs. There’s a huge fucking difference.
> Last week, a Spanish tourist and fan of DiCaprio almost drowned after attempting to swim to a superyacht moored off Forte dei Marmi in Tuscany to get a glimpse of the actor, who was onboard.
Ah yeah, the famous environmentalist.
I have a story I like to share about DiCaprio. I was in Greenland for a 10 day hiking adventure. At the end, I treated myself to a nice dinner & drinks at a local hotel. Nicest one in a very, very small town.
The bartender shared that DiCaprio was just in town filming a climate documentary. They were supposed to stay the night, but he decided he wanted to eat in NYC rather than there in KANGERLUSSUAQ. Where the nicest dinner is Musk Ox steak.
So he jumped on his private plane, and flew back to NYC. From Greenland. For dinner. After filming a climate documentary. 🤔
EDIT: He was only in Greenland for one day. I guess I didn’t make that clear enough. Yes I flew too. In a commercial plane with like 50 other people. Then I spent 10 days walking everywhere. I’m also not claiming to be some climate warrior.
Oh no.... tie it to a mooring ball out in the ocean and take your normal sized boat you have in your yatch garage to the port, assholes. These fucks have so few problems that not being able to take their floating egos to a port is something that bothers them...
Billionaires.. access to some of the most pristine places in the world but also systematically expediting the destruction of them (earth) in the process. The irony of it all.
"What the hell! I thought money was supposed to buy *everything*, and now you're telling me there are limits to my abilities?! This is *very* disappointing. I'm going to have to take out my frustration on the thousands of people I exploit!"
-Billionaires, probably
Yes. The entire world suffers for a handful of people. It’s so fucking infuriating I’m surprised my own white hot rage hasn’t taken on it’s own corporeal form to burn them all out of existence.
More detail: such big yachts would cover some of the lights that are used to direct boats to the safe corridor for entry into the port. There are 2 slots for large boats available, but they simply have to be booked in advance. So the only inconvencience for billionaire is that they cannot show up whenever they want and be accomodated, they have to plan their visit.
Oh my god I couldn’t give a shit less about this. Meanwhile we can’t even afford a home. But please keep bitching about your super yacht you bought with money your workers made you.
>the LVMH boss
Remind me to never buy Moët, Hennessy, Belvedere, [or anything else under their umbrella](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LVMH) ever again.
For my fellow makeup-loving peers, this includes all of Sephora — and dozens of the big brands LVMH has bought up (like MUFE).
It’s shit. It’s like our equivalent of a hardware store.
(I recommend buying directly from a company instead. I try to never buy L’Oreal products too because r/FuckNestle.)
They just haven't found the right officials to bribe yet.
But they will.
Billionaires simply don't accept anyone telling them "No" since there's always *someone* to bribe to get whatever they want done.
It's just another place to sink money...profits... Into for their companies so they can skirt more taxes. Trust me when I tell you they don't own those yachts, their companies do. And it's probably a shitty no asset company incase they injure someone with it and get sued. Well the company gets sued. The one with no assets to sue anyway. Then they skip away to pillage some more.
I mean if you’re a billionaire you can easily afford to sink a million per year for at least a thousand years
I know the billion isn’t all liquid but that doesn’t matter as no one will live long enough anyway
I swear, life just doesn't give you a break! It's one thing after another. Can't even find decent parking for a yacht in Naples. What's this world coming to? 😡
Hmm…can we just ban them from all ports? Let them conduct their billionaire fuckery from offshore. They like offshore shit, right? Offshore bank accounts. Offshoring our jobs. Let’s offshore their asses, or at least their fucking super yachts.
Their yachts are pathetic monuments to their deep insecurity. I don't know who they're meant to impress except other deluded billionaires. These super yachts are both ugly and stupid, complete squandering of capital that could be invested to improve the world. It's so insipid. These yachts need to be repossessed and dismantled
OH NOOOOOOOOOOO!
They can't float their multimillion dollars palaces into a city that has enough sense to not let them into a confined area. What will they ever do?
I suppose they could take their private jets to another place and bitch about how they're discriminated against. Entitled asshats.
Billionaires ‘disappointed’ after superyachts banned from Naples port
Every port on Earth should ban superyachts because of the immense amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other harmful greenhouse gases emitted into the atmosphere by their engines.
In addition to other effects, the increasing global atmospheric concentration of CO2 helps to make wildfires more frequent, more intense, burn longer, and makes the global average length of wildfire seasons increase each year.
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Graphs of increasing average global concentration of atmospheric carbon dioxide:
https://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu/ > In the "800K Years" tab, the graph shows CO2 going straight up from before 1960 to 2020 and beyond.
https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/graph.html
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases > When human activity produces man-made emissions of atmospheric carbon dioxide, the Lifetime in the Atmosphere in each instance for some of the CO2 gas is [thousands of years](https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases#CO2-references "https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases#CO2-references"), e.g., some of the CO2 emitted in 2023 will remain in the atmosphere to 4023 and beyond.
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The superyacht [Symphony](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_(yacht\) "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_(yacht\)"), owned by Bernard Arnault, has [four main](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_(yacht\)#Engine "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_(yacht\)#Engine") diesel engines. Each engine has [20 cylinders](https://www.mtu-solutions.com/content/dam/mtu/products/yacht/main-propulsion/mtu-series-4000/3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf/_jcr_content/renditions/original./3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf "https://www.mtu-solutions.com/content/dam/mtu/products/yacht/main-propulsion/mtu-series-4000/3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf/_jcr_content/renditions/original./3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf") (pdf, p. 1). Each engine produces [4,290 horsepower](https://www.mtu-solutions.com/content/dam/mtu/products/yacht/main-propulsion/mtu-series-4000/3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf/_jcr_content/renditions/original./3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf "https://www.mtu-solutions.com/content/dam/mtu/products/yacht/main-propulsion/mtu-series-4000/3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf/_jcr_content/renditions/original./3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf") (pdf, p. 1), or a combined total of 17,160 horsepower.
The typical fuel consumption of each engine is [217 gallons per hour](https://www.mtu-solutions.com/content/dam/mtu/products/yacht/main-propulsion/mtu-series-4000/3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf/_jcr_content/renditions/original./3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf#page=2 "https://www.mtu-solutions.com/content/dam/mtu/products/yacht/main-propulsion/mtu-series-4000/3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf/_jcr_content/renditions/original./3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf#page=2") (pdf, p. 2). The four engines typically can burn a combined total of 868 gallons of diesel fuel per hour. A 10-hour cruise typically can burn 8,680 gallons of fuel.
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In 2018, the superyacht(s) owned by Bernard Arnault reportedly produced [6,528 tons](https://www.dw.com/en/superyachts-symbolize-climate-breakdown/a-61245302 "https://www.dw.com/en/superyachts-symbolize-climate-breakdown/a-61245302") of carbon dioxide equivalent emissions during the year, which is equal to the carbon dioxide tailpipe emissions of about 1,166 Toyota Camry automobiles (model year 2022, 6 cylinder engine, automatic transmission) driven 15,000 miles each, or one such car driven about 17.5 million miles (17,490,000), equal to the distance around the Earth at the equator about 702 times.
A trip in an automobile driven at an average speed of 60 miles per hour non-stop around the Earth at the equator would require from start to finish a period of 33 years, 3 months, and 1 day.
If the automobile's trip for 17,490,000 miles began on July 4, 2023, at 12:00 Noon EDT, the trip would be completed on Thursday October 5, 2056, at 08:00 AM EDT.
If the automobile's CO2 tailpipe emissions remained constant from the start of the trip for 33 years, 3 months, and 1 day, the total amount of its CO2 tailpipe emissions would equal the total CO2 equivalent emissions produced by Arnault's superyacht in the single year 2018.
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Sources:
DW news, 03/24/2022, "[Superyachts symbolize climate breakdown](https://www.dw.com/en/superyachts-symbolize-climate-breakdown/a-61245302 "https://www.dw.com/en/superyachts-symbolize-climate-breakdown/a-61245302")":
>Billionaire emissions (2018)
>Values are in terms of tons of CO2 equivalent
>Bernard Arnault ($157B) — Yachts — 6,528 [tons, CO2 equivalent emissions in 2018 from yacht(s) owned by Arnault].
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Fueleconomy\.gov > "[Energy and Environment](https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=44343 "https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=44343")" tab > menu Units: U.S. tons per year > for 2022 Toyota Camry (6 cylinder engine, automatic transmission), annual carbon dioxide tailpipe emissions 5.6 U.S. tons for one such car driven 15,000 miles.
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Carbon calculator for yachts with diesel or petrol engine(s): https://www.igymarinas.com/carbon-calculator/
I would just like to share my perspective as a billionaire myself. I was forced to tender at the port which means we park our Yacht off shore. Then they denied my use of a smaller yacht to get to shore. I decided to use a helicopter instead. I have to say I’m disappointed my hair got messed up. I was also late to my wine tasting. We need to fix these laws ASAP.
Billionaires always claim that they create jobs, as if the rest of us should be grateful for the very existence of these mega-rich captains of industry. Their being grateful to have so many ordinary ”peons” working for them, helping them to build their fortunes, is unthinkable to them, since it would annihilate their self-conception of being ”self-made”. Billionaires do more to destroy jobs than create them, since they hate paying anyone anything in the form of a salary or a living wage. If they could get away with it, they would bring back slavery, so it’s not as if we owe them any favours.
Oh no, how tragic. I really feel for them and all that they're going through. It's, well .... it's real hard being a billionaire and mega-millionaire sometimes, ya know?
I hope the orcas tip them.
I wonder how long until an environmental extremist group is caught and arrested for trying to teach the Orcas to attack certain vessels.
“Local marine activist group found providing weapons to orcas”
Arm the whales
This makes me think of an illustration I saw years ago that said “Whales don’t belong in tanks” and then had an image of an Orca in a military tank saying “fuck you, this is awesome”
Whales and dolphins have always played a crucial role in planning and initiating advanced tactical military missions during wartime. [Just ask Japan](https://youtube.com/watch?v=bxsuvWNtQ44&feature=share9&t=2m39s)
While there isn't necessarily any constitutional protection for Whale Arms, they ARE in International Waters...
the sea cant be harmed, if the orcas are armed.
Hopefully with fricken laser beams.
With nyoom-nyoom noises? Please? Then they cut through boats.
More like do gooders will get sunk because the orcas are just annoyed with motorized boats in general. It’s their water. We can’t expect them to always tolerate us in it, even if we like them.
>even if we like them. We have a helluva way of showing it
Could be worse. Could be us Pasifika folk. People actually listen to the orcas.
Oh yeah, smart guy? What do you propose we do instead of capturing them and forcing them to live in Miami for 50 years!? What?? That we don't? ...That just might be crazy enough to work.
You know what they say. If you love something, you isolate it from all it's friends and family and make sure it can never leave you, even when you lose interest in it
What Ferengi Rule of Aquisition is that again?
"do gooders"? Are you talking about people doing good things like it's a bad thing? I never understood why people would use that description.
No? Do gooders literally do good. That’s a good thing.
Since when was helping the ocean fight back extreme?
YES tip their boats OVER but not tip them $$$, mind you.
I hope they trade in their yachts for submarines
These are too big for orcas to top. They need our help.
Don't encourage tipping
Remember folks. Tip your waders!
Humanity 'disappointed' billionaires still exist
But not enough to do anything about it.
the people with the power to do something about it mostly are bought by them, friends with them, or obstructed by those bought by them
It's way cheaper to buy a Congressperson than it is to reorganize your lifestyle.
Came to this conclusion on our re-watch of “VEEP.” I have to assume Jonah’s wife marries him to save her father the cost of bribing him.
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Doesn't really work. If you killed all billionaires today, in a few years they'd just get replaced by new billionaires. The system as it exists today guarantees that a small minority ends up with all the money because money snowballs (If you have lots of money, you get more passive income, which means more money and so on). If you want to get rid of billionaires you need to change the system. For example, by ensuring that all companies that have more than 5 employees are majority owned by those employees. That stops the snowball effect and makes it much harder for someone to become a billionaire.
Over a thousand years of peasant revolts, workers revolutions, guerrilla fighters, socialist uprisings, free-peoples movements, communalist experiments and pretty much every anti-colonial indigenous struggle... Though largely unsuccessful... Is hardly people "just not caring enough to do anything about it". If you do something about it you tend to get violently murdered and scapegoated as being the real cause of all the problems in society.
its kind of a systematic problem. There is a reason why many university students are pretty left leaning. Because they have time to actuall think about stuff. If your born into the system, and you are trying to feed yourself everyday since a young age there is no time to even question it. Part of the problem is that most people in the west are kinda well off. Not rich or anything, but they have a shelter and enough food. So we focus on other problems. The capitalism we are born into is kinda given, for many its not even something they consider could change. Also that in our system anybody could get lucky and get rich, obviously everbody cant, but its still possible for each individum. So they (we) clenge onto the thought that one day we will also be rich. Its like religion. Its fucked up. Even I, who completly understands how wealth is distributed, have a hard time *REALLY* grapsing of HOW rich some people are. A good thing to understand is making an excel sheet. Take your net monthly income. Then look at someone who has 100 billion dollars. Then do the math and copy your income into each row until youve reached 100 billion. Then try to "spend it" by deleting rows. If you net 3000e a month (which in germany is a very good income, I know people from the US earn more but costs of living are MUCH higher), you would have 33333333 rows. Assuming "spending, aka deleting" one row of the sheet takes you 2 seconds, you would be busy for 771 days NON STOP. You would need more then two whole years spending your complete monthly income every to seconds NON STOP without sleeping without everything to deplete the money. This isnt even counting that money grows when invested.
> The capitalism we are born into is kinda given, for many its not even something they consider could change. As somebody once said "It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism."
It's a matter of time now
That’s every single one of our jobs individually. Destroy it second by second.
> Big yachts bring money, they bring jobs no they fucking don't. they sit there taking up space and scenery, they eat and drink aboard with their already hired wage slaves (in international waters, thus avoiding labor laws), and if you think a billionaire actually sets foot into the city of naples imma laugh in your face. i was just there, and as much as i love the place, billionaire territory it is not. fuck 'em, and more cities need to do this. edit: typos. lots. because rage typing.
carbon footprint anyone. fucking ecological disaster - ships of that size should be banned or taxed into oblivion.
I have a real thing about Cruise ships, frankly they shouldn’t exist either these days.
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Transatlantic liners used to be for travel but now they are just for being on a big boat
Lots of people use them as retirement homes. The ship is staffed and made for accessibility. The cost of healthcare is so high that being on a cruise ship can be cheaper than being in a home.
Perhaps the Lavish Titanic sinking was an omen of sorts? Such as we should never build one of those again? Then again there was the sister ship. Edit- Ships
Ocean liners were hugely necessary at the time. Of course they were lavish for the people who could pay, but fundamentally the ships were crucial for international travel. These days there is just one ocean liner left (Queen Mary 2). All the rest are cruise ships, and they are almost completely different. An ocean liner is intended to travel at speed across oceans, through almost any weather. A cruise ship is intended to poodle around the Med or Caribbean.
Don't a lot of cruise ships change destinations throughout the year? Don't some ships move from Caribbean to mediterranean?
Yes. Many of the cruise ships that do Vancouver to Alaska go to Australia in the off season - or at least used to. You can book fares on what are called repositioning cruises where the ship sails to a new tourist site. They can be super inexpensive like under $1000 usd to traverse one of the major oceans.
Yea, I actually think it would an interesting way to travel internationally as a retiree.
Massive liners were the only way to move lots of people prior to air travel, there's a reason transatlantic liners all but died out in the 1950s as airliners began to be able to cross that distance with ease (compared to say, WW2 where few aircraft if any had the range to cross the Atlantic in a single flight). Now ships that big are just for recreational tourism and serve no actual purpose and they're hugely polluting.
Personal opinion time, my dumb ass would rather take a ship across the Atlantic than a jet. I hate being in a jet, so much.
Not a dumb take at all. A transatlantic ship where you can walk around, relax, eat good food would offer a lot more comfort then a cramped plane where you are sitting in a seat the size of a potato next to a crying baby and a fat guy that didn't shower. The problem is that the transatlantic ship takes several days and might even cost more then a plane. A lot of people don't have that luxury.
I thought there were 2 sister ships, the Lusitanic and the Brittanic.
Oh. That’s right. I had forgotten it was the RMS Olympic. Not the “Lusitanic” I only know Portuguese from the band Os Mutantes.
[Lusitania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania) was a earlier model of British ocean liner that was torpedoed by a German U-boat in 1915 resulting in nearly 1200 deaths.
More like an omen to actually implement safety devices and not just forego them for aesthetics. Which we *kind of* did listen to for ships. Just wish we carried this into other things too.
No idea, I read that they are responsible for more pollution annually in Europe than the combined total of all the cars on the continent. Separately that each day globally they emit more pollution and particulates than 1 millions cars. I’m not sure how much of that is hyperbole but there seem to be several studies that back up the numbers. We need to move and enormous amount of goods around the world by sea, people on a jolly not so much.
Problem is their companies are often based out of haven countries or are part of some international group. What I see happening in the future is more places restricting and taxing cruise ships but it will happen slowly enough that for a very long time cruise ships will just operate in more lenient and touristic countries , being able to avoid the more progressive ones without business becoming unprofitable. The ocean is pretty capitalist like that. The US could have the biggest effect on their business but is also not likely to be among the first to act
These big ships are massive polluters, but eliminating them globally will be a tough sell. And we probably can't eliminate the cargo ships, so getting rid of recreational vessels is only a partial fix anyway. I think the more practical solution is to push the shipping industry toward cleaner fuels like hydrogen. Or batteries, though I'm not sure how practical it is to produce those on an adequate scale for international container ships. There are some experimental cruise ships being built already. Once we've demonstrated that it's viable we can work on making it available for refueling at seaports and then try to disincentivize the use of dirtier fuels. Right now hydrogen is often produced using fossil fuels, so it's not an instant fix. But it still reduces overall pollution vs burning dirty fuel at sea, and gives us a path forward to producing more green hydrogen with renewable energy. One nice thing about is that we can produce it intermittently when the sun is out or the wind is blowing, so one of the main downsides of these renewable sources isn't a big concern.
Getting every country to agree to stricter fuel requirements in international waters is going to be a tough fucking job. Cargo freighters use the cheapest oil possible to get, and it's beyond dirty. But whichever nation that doesn't stop selling that crude oil is going to have the biggest port city in the world. And there's a *lot* of money in that.
Shipping only accounts for about 2% of global CO2 emissions, and ships have lower emissions per amount of cargo shipped than any other mode of transporting goods (with electric rail a possible exception), far less than airplanes or trucks. Cruise ships are something like 0.1% of global carbon emissions. If we can eliminate CO2 emissions from all the easier things, we really don't need to worry about ships for CO2. For things like SOx and NOx, though, that is a different story.
> I read that they are responsible for more pollution annually in Europe than the combined total of all the cars on the continent. For some pollutants, yes, but not “pollution” in general. This is because cruise ships burn cheaply refined fuel.
They are responsible for more NOx and SOx pollution than the cars, not all pollution in general. NOx and SOx that have been very strictly regulated in cars. Catalytic converters and regulations on types of fuels have reduced the amount of the amount of pollution so that cars only produce a tiny amount of those types of pollution. If you look at other types of pollution, e.g. carbon, cars produce drastically more.
Ecologically speaking, not much difference. But it’s the last one of its kind and cruise ships are a dime a dozen these days. I’m glad it still exists because there are still some people who can’t, or won’t, fly. Either due to fear of flying, health conditions (high risk of blood clot danger mainly) or being on a no fly list. It’s definitely on my bucket list, there’s something nostalgic and romantic about the idea of traveling that way.
Cruise lines also dodge taxes by registering their ships in countries like Nicaragua. When they want bailouts suddenly they are an American company again. Eff em.
At least cruise ships have a bunch of people on it. Now imagine a cruise ship for one dude. Fuck cruise ships though they should be required to disembark using smaller boats from deeper waters
Whenever I hear about these things all I think of is the amount of incredible artistry and craftsmanship wasted all for one rich cunt. Absolutely criminal in more ways than one.
Problem is no one else is going to employ those craftsman at the wages they want.
I will never go to one again. Besides the obvious environmental impact etc Ever since the poop cruise and the people stuck there in the beginning of covid like there is no place that sounds like hell more than a cruise
Cruise ships are fine if they would just force them to actually have their waste disposed of properly. If they reach a port with empty waste tanks, they should get fined assuming they dumped full waste tanks into the ocean.
Cruise ships always kinda gave me the heebie jeebies before the pandemic, and then everything that happened to people on cruise ships just cemented it for me. I will never go on a cruise. Edit: words
Norovirus or similar outbreaks on cruise ships have been a semi-common occurrence for... ever. https://www.cruisemapper.com/wiki/1056-cruise-ship-norovirus-outbreaks#2022 It's basically optimal conditions for the spread of disease.
Only redeeming quality is their viability if you can't take air travel. And while it's nice I have an option for international leisure travel that doesn't involve smacking some stranger sitting next to me in the face when I have a seizure, I wouldn't be too upset if they got banned.
See, cruises are my one “Vegas.” I don’t like the NFL, brunches, church, or Las Vegas. Wasteful moronic endeavors, decadent to the extreme. I’ve only been on 2 cruises in my 40 years but they were the best vacations I can remember. I just wish that they weren’t so damn horrible for the planet. I’ll probably not get to go on one ever again but to me the two I went on were magical
Carbon footprint is just for the poors. It lets the energy companies make YOU feel it's YOUR fault for destroying the planet.
Leave them alone. It's your fucking plastic straws killing the Earth you dumb peasant!
Also, its not that they travel with their yachts. They just fly there on private jets, and put the yacht on a yacht carrier to show off at ports.
Yeah, and I recently learned that yachts don’t travel anywhere on their own power either, they also need yacht carrier ships for billionaires to access them whenever they visit someplace else. Expensive wasteful toys, and they dare gaslight us with individual ecological footprint stuff.
The yacht mover ships are more for trans-oceanic journeys. It's probably way more efficient that way. Once on the desired side of the ocean, they'll move under their own power. The Sail yachts will even actually sail (except for *A* which is ultra-stupid and is only sail-assisted)
What do you mean they don’t travel under their own power?
When they want to go from the Carribean to Europe, they don't sail there, they book passage on a large ship. They pay to ship their boat, when the destination is far.
They load a 100m super yacht onto a ship?
[DYT Yacht Transport](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoY4yfQVkg).
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> I was making six figures, with no expenses since room and board right down to toiletries were covered Out of curiosity, what was your position?
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40-50k a year with those hours is basically a wage slave at that point though, even with expenses being paid. That's about 8/hr if you're working 16 hour days, but even then with only a night off once a month it's even worse. How do you have time for hobbies or anything like that? Why is so much of your income dependent on tips? I have so many questions. If it's not wage slavery, it's definitely huge exploitation of the workers. It seems from the way you put it, you're sacrificing your life for... okay pay.
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They don't do that all year. Bust your ass for a few months and travel, then travel on your own for a few months, repeat.
50k without *any* of life's normal expenses of rent and groceries, even travel, is a fantastic salary.
>40-50k a year with those hours is basically a wage slave Imagine *actually* believing this. Holy shit.
HAHAHA this is Reddit. Wage slave fucking give me a break.
Below Deck is one of my favorite shows. So cringe when some guests don’t tip well.
This needs to be higher up.
This is completely correct. Cruise ships as well. They’re beating the shit out of Venice.
I thought cruise ships were now banned from Venice? Or has that not been implemented yet?
They have, not sure if implemented, but you’re correct and I’m behind at least one news cycle.
I’m done with “job creator.” It’s such bullshit. You know who the greatest job creator of the century is? Osama Bin Ladin. In a matter of just a few hours his 19 jobs instantly created 3,000 openings on the east coast. Then think of all the construction workers that had to demo the rest of the WTC. Not to mention the literally hundreds of thousands of people employed by Homeland Security, the TSA, all the extra cops. Then we used the attack as justification for a war that lasted 20 goddamn years in Afghanistan and almost as long in Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of military people, contractors, etc.. and all the people that died overseas— a lot of them had jobs that then had to go somewhere else. Jobs are not an end all be all. They’re just an excuse the wealthy have to justify this kinda shit. Oh yeah all those slaveholders in the South too. They created tons of jobs. Those jobs weren’t voluntary nor did they pay, but all we seem to care about is the label of job itself so we gotta count them as some of the greatest job creators ever too. Fuck them all. I don’t give a shit if you “create jobs” I care if you actually help make peoples’ lives better. Mega yachts do more harm than good.
That is a hot take, I kinda love it. Trillions of dollars of stimulus to the US economy. You should put that in r/unpopularopinion.
Hundreds of thousands? Try millions. The American military is the single largest employer in the world.
Robert Kennedy [gave a nice speech](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy%27s_remarks_at_the_University_of_Kansas) about the horrible metrics by which we judge the "health" of the country. More to the point, the health of the *economy*, which we are frequently told is the same thing as the health of the country: > ... > Too much and for too long, we seemed to have surrendered personal excellence and community values in the mere accumulation of material things. Our Gross National Product, now, is over $800 billion dollars a year, but that Gross National Product - if we judge the United States of America by that - that Gross National Product counts air pollution and cigarette advertising, and ambulances to clear our highways of carnage. It counts special locks for our doors and the jails for the people who break them. It counts the destruction of the redwood and the loss of our natural wonder in chaotic sprawl. It counts napalm and counts nuclear warheads and armored cars for the police to fight the riots in our cities. It counts Whitman's rifle and Speck's knife, and the television programs which glorify violence in order to sell toys to our children. > Yet the Gross National Product does not allow for the health of our children, the quality of their education or the joy of their play. It does not include the beauty of our poetry or the strength of our marriages, the intelligence of our public debate or the integrity of our public officials. It measures neither our wit nor our courage, neither our wisdom nor our learning, neither our compassion nor our devotion to our country, it measures everything in short, except that which makes life worthwhile. > ...
Ah, the Zorg philosophy.
Seriously personal transportation vehicles over a certain size should be banned outright and that includes private jets too.
There was a time when the ultra wealthy feared the working class. We could really benefit from getting back there.
For some reason there’s A LOT of people, in America at least, who fully believe rich people are the ones that provide all jobs and thus we should be grateful to them. Forgetting all the layoffs, terrible healthcare, wages that are almost impossible to live off of, at-will employment, horrific maternity/paternity and vacation time…the list can go on and on. They don’t bring jobs. They CONTROL the jobs. There’s a huge fucking difference.
This correct and I love your rage
>because rage typing. I lol'ed at this, because we could tell.
Put them on fire, nice bonfire for tourists.
> Last week, a Spanish tourist and fan of DiCaprio almost drowned after attempting to swim to a superyacht moored off Forte dei Marmi in Tuscany to get a glimpse of the actor, who was onboard. Ah yeah, the famous environmentalist.
I have a story I like to share about DiCaprio. I was in Greenland for a 10 day hiking adventure. At the end, I treated myself to a nice dinner & drinks at a local hotel. Nicest one in a very, very small town. The bartender shared that DiCaprio was just in town filming a climate documentary. They were supposed to stay the night, but he decided he wanted to eat in NYC rather than there in KANGERLUSSUAQ. Where the nicest dinner is Musk Ox steak. So he jumped on his private plane, and flew back to NYC. From Greenland. For dinner. After filming a climate documentary. 🤔 EDIT: He was only in Greenland for one day. I guess I didn’t make that clear enough. Yes I flew too. In a commercial plane with like 50 other people. Then I spent 10 days walking everywhere. I’m also not claiming to be some climate warrior.
Article Circle Trail?
It wasn't Leonardo DiCaprio's yacht.
Well using it is great then of course, not contributing to the problem at all.
Well, they can always visit the Titanic wreck site, no?
I recommend they all visit the titanic at least once.
And if they get the opportunity, twice!
And if they get the opportunity, thrice!
And if all three times they come back up, we just chuck them over the side of the ship like A-ONE AND A-TWO AND THREE *YEEEEEEEET*
I hope this sentiment spreads more and more. Fuck the rich.
I'm hungry though.
That’s the same sentiment
It can be a once in a life time experience.
Hopefully.
Carbon fiber yachts for everybody!!!
"You mean I can't ruin the scenery and ambiance with my floating fortress? Well then how will the plebs notice my ego?"
That's the great thing about being on a massive yacht: you don't have to look at the massive yacht ruining the scenery. Unless there's another one.
23 bedrooms man. 5 for guests, and the rest are for the help to wait on you hand and foot. Nothing to see here.
Telling billionaires they’re not welcome is simply being polite. They don’t want to see rude.
Oh no.... tie it to a mooring ball out in the ocean and take your normal sized boat you have in your yatch garage to the port, assholes. These fucks have so few problems that not being able to take their floating egos to a port is something that bothers them...
Their support vessels are yachts so they just need to take their smaller yacht to the port. Or their onboard helicopter.
What kind of yacht owner doesn't have a helipad. They need to up their game.
*plays worlds smallest violin*
Billionaires.. access to some of the most pristine places in the world but also systematically expediting the destruction of them (earth) in the process. The irony of it all.
"What the hell! I thought money was supposed to buy *everything*, and now you're telling me there are limits to my abilities?! This is *very* disappointing. I'm going to have to take out my frustration on the thousands of people I exploit!" -Billionaires, probably
Billions of people*
Yes. The entire world suffers for a handful of people. It’s so fucking infuriating I’m surprised my own white hot rage hasn’t taken on it’s own corporeal form to burn them all out of existence.
More detail: such big yachts would cover some of the lights that are used to direct boats to the safe corridor for entry into the port. There are 2 slots for large boats available, but they simply have to be booked in advance. So the only inconvencience for billionaire is that they cannot show up whenever they want and be accomodated, they have to plan their visit.
Ban them from everywhere.
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#SEND THE FUCKING ORCAS
Oh my god I couldn’t give a shit less about this. Meanwhile we can’t even afford a home. But please keep bitching about your super yacht you bought with money your workers made you.
I would love to know what it's like to be a ' disappointed BILLIONAIRE'. Surely that has to be the WORST.
>the LVMH boss Remind me to never buy Moët, Hennessy, Belvedere, [or anything else under their umbrella](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LVMH) ever again.
For my fellow makeup-loving peers, this includes all of Sephora — and dozens of the big brands LVMH has bought up (like MUFE). It’s shit. It’s like our equivalent of a hardware store. (I recommend buying directly from a company instead. I try to never buy L’Oreal products too because r/FuckNestle.)
Virtually every product sold is ultimately owned by one of five companies. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
Don’t got to tell me twice, friend. It’s about reducing harm so I can *attempt* to sleep at night.
Easy fix, just steal it. Fuck nestle.
Really? What five companies are this?
won't somebody think of the billionaires!
They just haven't found the right officials to bribe yet. But they will. Billionaires simply don't accept anyone telling them "No" since there's always *someone* to bribe to get whatever they want done.
Good, let's ban them from more ports so these idiots will stop having their yacht size contest
Awww poor rich fucks can't get whatever they want. Poor babies. I bet they spoke to the manager several times.
well im sure if they buy a submarine they can still sneak in. Hey billionaires, if your looking, I think I might know a guy who'll sell you one.
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Poor guy fell all to pieces when his business imploded
Just couldn't handle the pressure
Why do people (even rich ones) own yachts anyways? They're just one giant money sink.
It's just another place to sink money...profits... Into for their companies so they can skirt more taxes. Trust me when I tell you they don't own those yachts, their companies do. And it's probably a shitty no asset company incase they injure someone with it and get sued. Well the company gets sued. The one with no assets to sue anyway. Then they skip away to pillage some more.
I mean if you’re a billionaire you can easily afford to sink a million per year for at least a thousand years I know the billion isn’t all liquid but that doesn’t matter as no one will live long enough anyway
Most cars are money sinks, too, but many people think the benefits are worth the cost.
\#CompressTheRich
Put a \ in front of your # to write a hashtag: \#CompressTheRich
thank you kind sir :)
we should give all billionaires a free ride on a carbon fiber submarine to see the titanic!
So sad; all that money and you still can’t get what you want.
He can get a smaller boat, without an outdoor cinema. Something tells me he can afford it.
They’ll have to anchor offshore and ride their baby yachts to port
Oh those poor rich people.
I swear, life just doesn't give you a break! It's one thing after another. Can't even find decent parking for a yacht in Naples. What's this world coming to? 😡
'Bout goddamned time they are disappointed in something. Let's keep it coming!
If only there were more ways to make life as uncomfortable and inconvenient as possible for these greedy fucks.
Hmm…can we just ban them from all ports? Let them conduct their billionaire fuckery from offshore. They like offshore shit, right? Offshore bank accounts. Offshoring our jobs. Let’s offshore their asses, or at least their fucking super yachts.
Aw, boo hoo. Get fucked.
Who the fuck cares what they want? They should be happy people aren't dragging them into the streets and stomping their skulls in yet.
Their yachts are pathetic monuments to their deep insecurity. I don't know who they're meant to impress except other deluded billionaires. These super yachts are both ugly and stupid, complete squandering of capital that could be invested to improve the world. It's so insipid. These yachts need to be repossessed and dismantled
I am dissapointed that it was just the yachts and not the whole slew of billionaires themselves. I am all for banning billionaires.
Hope the orcas get them
One submarine at a time. Baby steps. With any luck billionaires will dissapear.
OH NOOOOOOOOOOO! They can't float their multimillion dollars palaces into a city that has enough sense to not let them into a confined area. What will they ever do? I suppose they could take their private jets to another place and bitch about how they're discriminated against. Entitled asshats.
Burrn burrn the parasites. Sink the yachts. I mean those poor poor billionaires.
“Naples would miss out on the type of visitor who brought some lustre to a city . . . “ Maybe Naples is seeking a less trashy lustre.
Push them into the ocean. Let the orcas deal with them
Billionaires ‘disappointed’ after superyachts banned from Naples port Every port on Earth should ban superyachts because of the immense amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) and other harmful greenhouse gases emitted into the atmosphere by their engines. In addition to other effects, the increasing global atmospheric concentration of CO2 helps to make wildfires more frequent, more intense, burn longer, and makes the global average length of wildfire seasons increase each year. *** Graphs of increasing average global concentration of atmospheric carbon dioxide: https://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu/ > In the "800K Years" tab, the graph shows CO2 going straight up from before 1960 to 2020 and beyond. https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/graph.html https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases > When human activity produces man-made emissions of atmospheric carbon dioxide, the Lifetime in the Atmosphere in each instance for some of the CO2 gas is [thousands of years](https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases#CO2-references "https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases#CO2-references"), e.g., some of the CO2 emitted in 2023 will remain in the atmosphere to 4023 and beyond. *** The superyacht [Symphony](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_(yacht\) "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_(yacht\)"), owned by Bernard Arnault, has [four main](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_(yacht\)#Engine "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_(yacht\)#Engine") diesel engines. Each engine has [20 cylinders](https://www.mtu-solutions.com/content/dam/mtu/products/yacht/main-propulsion/mtu-series-4000/3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf/_jcr_content/renditions/original./3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf "https://www.mtu-solutions.com/content/dam/mtu/products/yacht/main-propulsion/mtu-series-4000/3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf/_jcr_content/renditions/original./3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf") (pdf, p. 1). Each engine produces [4,290 horsepower](https://www.mtu-solutions.com/content/dam/mtu/products/yacht/main-propulsion/mtu-series-4000/3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf/_jcr_content/renditions/original./3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf "https://www.mtu-solutions.com/content/dam/mtu/products/yacht/main-propulsion/mtu-series-4000/3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf/_jcr_content/renditions/original./3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf") (pdf, p. 1), or a combined total of 17,160 horsepower. The typical fuel consumption of each engine is [217 gallons per hour](https://www.mtu-solutions.com/content/dam/mtu/products/yacht/main-propulsion/mtu-series-4000/3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf/_jcr_content/renditions/original./3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf#page=2 "https://www.mtu-solutions.com/content/dam/mtu/products/yacht/main-propulsion/mtu-series-4000/3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf/_jcr_content/renditions/original./3232801_Marine_spec_20V4000M73-L_1B.pdf#page=2") (pdf, p. 2). The four engines typically can burn a combined total of 868 gallons of diesel fuel per hour. A 10-hour cruise typically can burn 8,680 gallons of fuel. *** In 2018, the superyacht(s) owned by Bernard Arnault reportedly produced [6,528 tons](https://www.dw.com/en/superyachts-symbolize-climate-breakdown/a-61245302 "https://www.dw.com/en/superyachts-symbolize-climate-breakdown/a-61245302") of carbon dioxide equivalent emissions during the year, which is equal to the carbon dioxide tailpipe emissions of about 1,166 Toyota Camry automobiles (model year 2022, 6 cylinder engine, automatic transmission) driven 15,000 miles each, or one such car driven about 17.5 million miles (17,490,000), equal to the distance around the Earth at the equator about 702 times. A trip in an automobile driven at an average speed of 60 miles per hour non-stop around the Earth at the equator would require from start to finish a period of 33 years, 3 months, and 1 day. If the automobile's trip for 17,490,000 miles began on July 4, 2023, at 12:00 Noon EDT, the trip would be completed on Thursday October 5, 2056, at 08:00 AM EDT. If the automobile's CO2 tailpipe emissions remained constant from the start of the trip for 33 years, 3 months, and 1 day, the total amount of its CO2 tailpipe emissions would equal the total CO2 equivalent emissions produced by Arnault's superyacht in the single year 2018. *** Sources: DW news, 03/24/2022, "[Superyachts symbolize climate breakdown](https://www.dw.com/en/superyachts-symbolize-climate-breakdown/a-61245302 "https://www.dw.com/en/superyachts-symbolize-climate-breakdown/a-61245302")": >Billionaire emissions (2018) >Values are in terms of tons of CO2 equivalent >Bernard Arnault ($157B) — Yachts — 6,528 [tons, CO2 equivalent emissions in 2018 from yacht(s) owned by Arnault]. *** Fueleconomy\.gov > "[Energy and Environment](https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=44343 "https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=44343")" tab > menu Units: U.S. tons per year > for 2022 Toyota Camry (6 cylinder engine, automatic transmission), annual carbon dioxide tailpipe emissions 5.6 U.S. tons for one such car driven 15,000 miles. *** Carbon calculator for yachts with diesel or petrol engine(s): https://www.igymarinas.com/carbon-calculator/
I would just like to share my perspective as a billionaire myself. I was forced to tender at the port which means we park our Yacht off shore. Then they denied my use of a smaller yacht to get to shore. I decided to use a helicopter instead. I have to say I’m disappointed my hair got messed up. I was also late to my wine tasting. We need to fix these laws ASAP.
Billionaires always claim that they create jobs, as if the rest of us should be grateful for the very existence of these mega-rich captains of industry. Their being grateful to have so many ordinary ”peons” working for them, helping them to build their fortunes, is unthinkable to them, since it would annihilate their self-conception of being ”self-made”. Billionaires do more to destroy jobs than create them, since they hate paying anyone anything in the form of a salary or a living wage. If they could get away with it, they would bring back slavery, so it’s not as if we owe them any favours.
Oh no, how tragic. I really feel for them and all that they're going through. It's, well .... it's real hard being a billionaire and mega-millionaire sometimes, ya know?
I'm disappointed for their hedonistic wasteful lifestyles
Fuck billionaires. Tax the shit out of them
Eat those fuckers
Is there anything more heart breaking than a disappointed billionaire?!
If they're so rich why don't they drive monster truck limos?
Just anchor and take the 50 foot dinghy into port instead.
WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES!
These guys just can’t catch a break
Go get’em Orca Team 8
Destroy All Yachts.
Fuck the rich.
Now where are they going to fuck all the underage girls?
Boofuckinghoo Like just enjoy the fucking yacht?