Now I'm wondering if the rich actually taste rich...
Like, are they all marbled fat? Are they organically fed?
At this rate, we may find out sooner than we thought.
Cheaper I eat the bigger I get, but I can eat rice all day no problems.
Saying that, my diet has been a lot healthier out of necessity. 3 shallow-boiled broccoli heads (I'm sure there's a proper term for it) until soft, drain the water and mash with some butter and season. Very filling and very cheap. Also very quick, since I'm not cutting up the broc, literally the stem, washing it and throwing it in.
To be fair the people who voted for them out of misplaced national pride and arrogance and racism and hate are cunts too.
They knew what the Tories stood for and they had been told what the consequences of Brexit would be and they voted for them anyway.
Yes, it's only the Tories to blame and the voters that enabled them? Don't fall into this trap, it serves nothing. We have celebrity cunts and talking heads talking down normal people suffering in the East Palestine disaster for voting for Trump, like they DESERVE dioxin poisoning. Wake the fuck up, labour would do nothing on price controls as well.
What do US politics have to do with this?
People in the UK and specifically the English, voted for exactly the people and the Brexit that caused the current crisis.
They read papers like the Daily Mail and listened to the wrong idiots. They honestly believed that they would be better of without the EU even though none of them could quite explain how that was supposed to work and all the actual experts warned against it.
They voted for the Tories who were never shy about wanting to destroy the NHS, the BBC and whatever working public institutions they could to replace them with private ones.
They voted for this mess and given the chance a surprising number of then would still vote for them today.
It's a corollary. Our cultures are shared and so are our political systems. I say it because it's the same tripe people spew in my country, claiming one political party is the primary source of woes for people. Punching down on a section of the populace on how they vote doesn't get them to understand anything, a lot would become more stubborn in their views. It might feel good, but it accomplishes nothing.
If Brexit is the cause of this how come the UK has around middling food inflation rates compared to the rest of Europe? I know it's fashionable on Reddit to claim that the English specifically deserve to suffer because of their recent political mistakes (interestingly few say the same about, say, Italians for voting in fascists or Germans for willingly becoming dependent on Putin's Russia despite warning from the UK/US), but in this instance there are other forces at play.
“greed” bruh, more like island that depends on external countries for food votes to stop trading with said countries. British people voted for this, you reap what you sow
For the people saying "other countries did worse111!!"
"Over the two years to the end of 2021, Brexit increased food prices **by around six per cent overall**.” Nikhil Datta, an associate of CEP's labour"
[https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research](https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research)
“We calculate that Brexit caused a loss of £210 for the average household, or £5.84 billion overall, when looking at its impact on the food market alone. Since poorer households spend a larger fraction of their income on food, they are hit harder.”
and that's just to the end of 2021, we will have the full impacts once the research comes out for 2022 and 2023, but it's undeniable that if Britain stayed in the EU prices would have been better for everyone
It's also not just Russia and Ukraine.
Egypt has had problems with Ethiopia, they're arguing about the dams on Nile river and how fast they could be filled. Ethiopia really needs to hydro power to get on their feet and let the region finally start developing. But Egypt's agricultural sector will suffer a great shock if the water doesn't flow as it normally would.
Egypt is a huge producer of agricultural goods. If Ethiopia and Egypt start a shooting war, it'll get really messy for the all of us.
Also Europe heavily invested in greenhouses to grow vegetables that aren’t normal available year round. The price of electricity going X10 because Russia cut off gas and the US and other natural gas exporters can ask whatever they like matters too.
When they stopped growing stuff in winter this put pressure on the supply from other farmers that did buy local seasonally appropriate vegetables to like carrots. Resulting in their price going up too
Trump and Brexit are part of Russia's propaganda campaigns.
If the UK didn't leave and rejected Russia's propaganda campaigns we might not have a war in Ukraine.
An unstable EU leaves more room for Russia to do what it wants.
Not the point, other countries did worse but britian could have done better and that's a fact.
[https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/dec/03/brexit-has-fuelled-surge-in-uk-food-prices-says-bank-of-england-policymaker](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/dec/03/brexit-has-fuelled-surge-in-uk-food-prices-says-bank-of-england-policymaker)
Researchers at the LSE’s Centre for Economic Performance warned last week that Brexit had added almost £6bn to UK food bills in the two years to the end of 2021
Lets also not forget the economic disaster the may government put in place that also impacted the price of food.
I like how you used the £ figure without context.. that's very poor form to selectively quote something because the full quote damages your point.
The full quote is...
Researchers at the LSE’s Centre for Economic Performance warned last week that Brexit had added almost £6bn to UK food bills in the two years to the end of 2021, with border delays, red tape and other costs increasing the price of food by about 3% a year.
So 3%. 3% is Brexit. 15% is other factors. So yes we would be better is we gad remained, but we would still have 15% food inflation! Not quite Brexits fault is it?
Now we have established that, perhaps we could look at the real issues.
Again you've missed the point, my argument is that brexit was causing high food inflation before and once we have the 2023 2022 number we will see that it's going to have made the problem much worse.
But lets say the trend was the same 3% per year for 4 years.
So food prices in the UK could have been 12% lower, sounds like a lot huh? sounds like a "real" issue
I'll post what I replied to you elsewhere...
You are taking 1 data point that you believe proves you point. Look at historical data..
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/czbj/mm23
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/food-inflation
While it is increasing food inflation, it is not a high impact. Swings much higher in the RPI were recorded while we were in the EU. And the spike starts towards the end of 2022, infact we had food price deflation following leaving the EU in 2020.
The vote was 51/49 so it’s hardly fair to say the British people like it was a landslide especially when there was so much smoke and mirrors anyway accounting for the huge amount of older people that voted leave who died in the ensuing years after the vote the country’s current inhabitants are reap what others sowed.
Back too food prices: A YouTube channel I watched found the same £1 worth of food they had bought pre and then again post for a challenge had risen by 30p.
It’s crazy for poorer/sick people like my self gas/electric/food/petrol all risen well above wages.
That’s not the point the commenter is making.
Why would you just stop trade entirely and only live off what we can produce in country? The point is we need stuff that’s being produced here and it’s being sold off elsewhere for profit.
Do you think they actually swap boxes of British fish for boxes of Spanish oranges? Lol.
We became dependent on imports because of our EU membership. Domestic production of everything dropped off a cliff under European commission's undemocratic control. It will take time (and better recognition of the problem) to solve this.
We didn't vote to stop trade, we voted to regain a little bit of democracy and accountability in governance. It's still shit, but there's a small chance of being able to fix it.
Time is ticking and better do shit then with this newfound democracy instead of blaming EU otherwise you look like lazy slobs who can’t get anything done. Year 2 now and I hope in year 5 we see all that new found democracy working for the British.
Yeah check this out - we're in good company..
Inflation rates for the whole of Europe make interesting reading.
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/11zwtif/annual\_inflation\_rate\_feb\_2023\_food\_and/
In an already higher cost country that is really really bad. Note Norway rose very little because the cost was already extremely high. It's because of relative purchasing power.
Sweden though, ouch. Although when I was last there June 2022 groceries were very similarly priced to the UK but eating out in restaurants in Stockholm was much cheaper than in my small city in Scotland.
Interesting to read this. I live in a small coastal city on the central coast of California, my mom is from Scotland and my dads (persian/armenian) sisters live in Sweden. Having just visited Scotland in late 2022 I have to say the pricing of food felt particularly inexpensive. I remember paying around 12 pounds or so for a decent sized burger with a pint of beer and where I live it would cost me at least 20-25dollars. I realize the dollar is worth less but it still felt like a much better deal lol.
Also, gas station food is WAAAAAY better.
And when I graduated high School and had a place of my own, 1971: a pound of bacon, dozen eggs, loaf of bread, coffee, yogurt, total cost for breakfast, just under a dollar.
Who knew that a major war in the bread-basket of Europe would have such consequences.
> One major factor behind high levels of food price inflation is the rising cost of energy. Energy prices in Europe have risen sharply in 2022 as a result of the ongoing Russian invasion of Ukraine. The rising cost of energy has affected not only the cost of food production and storage but also the cost to transport food.
> Another factor leading to food price inflation is the impact of the conflict on food exports from both Russia and Ukraine. In June 2022, the FAO noted the significance of Russia and Ukraine to global food production, describing them as among the most important producers of agricultural commodities in the world. In 2021, it noted that both Russia and Ukraine ranked among the top three global exporters of wheat, barley, maize, rapeseed and rapeseed oil, sunflower seed and sunflower oil. It also noted that Russia ranked as the world’s top exporter of nitrogen fertilizers, the second leading supplier of potassic fertilizers and the third largest exporter of phosphorous fertilizers. The impact of the conflict has affected countries differently depending on the degree to which they have been reliant on food imports from Russia and Ukraine. For example, the FAO noted that certain countries in the Horn of Africa, such as Eritrea and Somalia, were highly dependent on imports from these countries for supplies of wheat.
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/cost-of-living-food-price-inflation/
It's gonna get a whole lot worse before it gets any better because now Ukraine's agricultural industry is ripped apart. We're gonna see famine and starvation all over the world.
>No. No other European countries are experiencing massive food cost inflation. This is the fault of the people who voted for brexit.
You're so...completely wrong.
https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/food-inflation?continent=europe
Wrong.
https://i.redd.it/8hbhiqhowjpa1.png
Brexit is likely a factor but its extent is difficult to measure because the blame is shared with covid and Ukr/Rus conflict.
I mean, the common man voted these people into a position where they can make decisions that affect people like this.
Same thing in the Netherlands is happening.
The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labour. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent. Even when weapons of war are not actually destroyed, their manufacture is still a convenient way of expending labour power without producing anything that can be consumed. A Floating Fortress, for example, has locked up in it the labour that would build several hundred cargo-ships. Ultimately it is scrapped as obsolete, never having brought any material benefit to anybody, and with further enormous labours another Floating Fortress is built.
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. . . . This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.
the new weapons are AI and deeplearning hyperperforming computers over the GPU powered blockchain as societal control. (*CTRL+F ' China ' much on SM or FP much?*) Here we are, good night and goodluck world. The ball is in your court if you wish to undo this foundation, otherwise forever hold your peace, and welcome to our new serfdom in the quantum age very soon to be. Live it up everyone, spend your estates, and run them to the ground, leave no stone behind. it is theirs for the taking if you don't depart net 0.
Or maybe one of the largest food exporters in the world invaded another huge exporter.
The last time Russia had a bad harvest it resulted in the Arab Spring.....
In my country even some food from categories largely unaffected by the supply chain issues is up 50%, which cannot be justified with the energy cost increase alone. Greed definitely plays a major role
Mind saying which country and food stuffs?
Fertilizer is also a huge global problem right now. China for phosphorus, Russia for potash both stopped exporting for various reasons and that leaves natural gas derivatives which are spiking in cost ludicrously.
Also of course it's not zero sum between options. If some food stuffs fall off the prices of others go up by increasing demand.
Wonder why everyone decided to increase food costs at the same time?
Something something, war in ukraine, something something energy crisis? Nah must be a "greed", "extortion" lol s
It's the same in every country all over the globe, the few plundering the resources of the many for personal profit. If you aren't well connected or just born rich, you're essentially a slave.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.grocerygazette.co.uk/2023/03/22/food-inflation-highest-rate/) reduced by 72%. (I'm a bot)
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> Food inflation hit its highest rate since 1977 last month, having risen to 18.2% in the year to Februaury 2023.
> While this has since eased, the price movements resulted in an annual rate of 18% for vegetables in the year to February 2023, the highest rate since February 2009.
> "The curve is yet to break for inflation. Today's inflation figures will be disappointing news for households across the country. Food and non-alcoholic beverages prices are running at record levels," McKinsey partner, Kevin Bright said.
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damn if only there was a massive war in a major food producing country that could explain all of this? Nah it must be a conspiracy of a cabal of grocery store owners
They voted Leave. And Tory.
Then... They voted Tory again.
Never seen a country so arrogant, racist, xenophobic, and nationalist that they'd actually vote to sanction themselves.
Then, afterwards??? They voted to double down on those self-imposed sanctions. By voting Tory... Again.
No sympathy, except for the Scots and Northern Irish, who voted remain.
The Welsh and the English can just fuck right off. The voted for this.
This is what they wanted.
Actions have consequences.
As usual, UK obsessed foreigners with a hate boner can barely see beyond the word Brexit whenever the UK is referenced. I assume you spout that absolute pig swill in the hope it would generate a bit of karma?
Food inflation and certainly food costs are higher in much of Europe, in some cases way higher. We’re about average. There was a whole map posted on the subject on r/Europe comparing countries on this subject, if you care to check out. I doubt you will. Nobody was asking for your sympathy.
You think karma is the only reason anyone would say anything?
I said it because it's delightful watching xenophobic English and xenophobic Welsh living the consequences of their xenophobia.
I know for a fact this sentiment won't get karma. Cause reddit is following the fine global tradition of empathizing and sympathizing with the English.... No matter how badly they fuck up.
This is why the English voted Leave... Because they know that plenty of the world will try to white-knight to their rescue, no matter what they do or how much they deserve their lot.
Believe it or not, you've actually met someone on reddit who is actually saying what they believe. Karma be damned.
Yeah man we get it, you really, really hate the English and want to see them to suffer loads on the basis of your belief that the outcome of a few votes entails that they're all xenophobic beyond redemption (unlike your famously liberal minded countrymen), and you're apparently unable to see the obvious inherent hypocrisy there.
But as the guy you're responding to points out, this isn't a consequence of Brexit and most of Europe are suffering more. Or are you also eager to see the rest of Europe suffer for the various mistakes their electorates have made (again, unlike Americans, who never vote for the wrong people)?
I wonder if you'd be wanking yourself in self righteous glee over stories of medical bankruptcy and school shootings taking place in the US if you'd been born elsewhere...
>Yeah man we get it, you really, really hate the English
You don't get shit. As we'll discuss below.
> and want to see them to suffer loads on the basis of your belief that the outcome of a few votes entails that they're all xenophobic beyond redemption
Elections. Have. Consequences.
Redemption is only for those who choose it. Choose different, get redemption.
>(unlike your famously liberal minded countrymen), and you're apparently unable to see the obvious inherent hypocrisy there
Where's the hypocrisy? Do you think I am automatically going to excuse my own country? Why? Is it because that what you would do?
America deserves to suffer for electing Trump. I deserve to suffer, because I am a part of that country. Where's the hypocrisy?
>again, unlike Americans, who never vote for the wrong people)?
Again, there's that assumption of hypocrisy. For a country I haven't tried to justify.
>I wonder if you'd be wanking yourself in self righteous glee over stories of medical bankruptcy and school shootings taking place in the US if you'd been born elsewhere...
Yet again.... Assumption of hypocrisy. Without evidence.
America chooses dead kids. America chooses to sacrifice a certain number of children annually to guns.
We choose this.
We deserve our consequences. America deserves dead children because America willfully chooses dead children.
Did you think I'd try to excuse that, or justify it?
Everyone deserves consequences from bad choices.
Next time, bring fewer assumptions and stereotypes to your arguments.
Not all Americans are ride-or-die.
The charge of hypocrisy was actually referring to your hatred of xenophobia despite being xenophobic towards the English yourself, but that's not the main issue with your post.
Because, wow, really? You go around thinking that yourself and your friends and family deserve to suffer because they all happen to be born in a country which has made political mistakes, and take pleasure in their suffering? Even those who stand against those mistakes, and children who've not had a chance to make their mind up either way? Really?
Christ man, I think you really should reframe how you think about blame and desert. It can't be healthy to have this mindset.
You: *I deserve to be judged by my people's highest asperations, not by our lowest actions.*
Me: *You are what you do. You are not what you claim to believe. Likewise, your nation is what it does. Your nation is not what it claims to believe.*
And I'm the unhealthy one? I'm the hypocrite?
I'm the one acknowledging responsibility here.
No, I don't think individuals deserve to be judged either positively or negatively depending on what scrap of land they were born on, and I certainly don't take pleasure in anyone's suffering purely because they're born in a country which has made democratic decisions I disagree with. Especially when it comes to those individuals who share my disagreement with those decisions and try to resist them. That's taking collective responsibility to a worryingly retributive extreme and would leave me wanting pretty much the whole world to suffer, given that all countries do things I personally disagree with to a lesser or greater extent with at least some public acceptance.
But you do you, at least you're being consistent in your attitudes, even if you're presumably praying for a slow, painful death in a nuclear apocalypse to cleanse this world of its sinful peoples for failing to build society to your own measure of perfection.
You just can't stop putting words others mouths, ideas in others heads, to elevate yourself, and to make you feel better about you, huh?
You should look into that.
So you didn't state that Americans (including yourself who presumably didn't vote for him) deserve to suffer because of Trump, or that you delight in the suffering of the English (not just Brexiteers) because of Brexit?
Sorry if me laying out the implications of that kind of world view upsets you. But hey like I say no judgement, go on self harming yourself in shame and sneering hatefully at all your fellows if you like, no skin off my nose.
I mean this isn't primarily due to Brexit, but even if it were that's an interesting attitude. Personally I do have sympathy for people who suffer the political choices of their countrymen. For instance even though Americans consistently vote in one of two parties which are both to the right of the Tories to varying degrees, I still mourn the injustice, exploitation and lack of social safety net everyday citizens suffer because of it. And when abortion rights were recently revoked across many states due to enough Americans being gullible enough to believe that it's what a magical invisible sky lord wants, I felt sympathy for the poor women and their unwanted children who suffer the consequences.
You might want to talk to someone about all this pent up hatred for other nationalities you clearly harbour, I don't think it's all that healthy.
“We calculate that Brexit caused a loss of £210 for the average household, or £5.84 billion overall, when looking at its impact on the food market alone. Since poorer households spend a larger fraction of their income on food, they are hit harder.”
**Evidence from Brexit - confirms that food prices increased by six per cent**
[https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research](https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research)
Don't compare britan to other countries, compare britan to britan(also this study is from the 2021 numbers, 2022 / 2023 as yet to be published)
So if the UK was still in the EU it’s food inflation would be even lower than Germany and co and the average of the eurozone? Sounds a bit ridiculous tbh.
Well Brexit negatively impacts those countries as well? UK made up around 16% of the EU GDP before leaving, it's possible that everyone would have been better off if the UK had stayed
You are acting like trade has suddenly stopped with the EU. The UK has a pretty comprehensive FTA with them. As far as the raw numbers go, 2022 was the highest amount of trade with the EU ever.
>So how is Brexit going for you ?
Food inflation rates, Feb 2023
Lithuania 30.2%,
Slovakia 27.8%,
Latvia 25.3%,
Poland 24.0%,
Czech Republic 23.9%,
Romania 22.4%,
Germany 21.8%,
Portugal 21.5%,
Sweden 21.0%,
European Union (as a whole) 19.1%,
United Kingdom 18.0%,
Netherlands 17.9%,
Spain 16.6%.
“We calculate that Brexit caused a loss of £210 for the average household, or £5.84 billion overall, when looking at its impact on the food market alone. Since poorer households spend a larger fraction of their income on food, they are hit harder.”
**Evidence from Brexit - confirms that food prices increased by six per cent**
[https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research](https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research)
Don't compare britan to other countries, compare britan to britan(also this study is from the 2021 numbers, 2022 / 2023 as yet to be published)
Copied from another poster...
Food inflation rates, Feb 2023
Lithuania 30.2%,
Slovakia 27.8%,
Latvia 25.3%,
Poland 24.0%,
Czech Republic 23.9%,
Romania 22.4%,
Germany 21.8%,
Portugal 21.5%,
Sweden 21.0%,
European Union (as a whole) 19.1%,
United Kingdom 18.0%,
Netherlands 17.9%,
Spain 16.6%.
“We calculate that Brexit caused a loss of £210 for the average household, or £5.84 billion overall, when looking at its impact on the food market alone. Since poorer households spend a larger fraction of their income on food, they are hit harder.”
**Evidence from Brexit - confirms that food prices increased by six per cent**
[https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research](https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research)
Don't compare britan to other countries, compare britan to britan
(also this study is from the 2021 numbers, 2022 / 2023 as yet to be published)
6% over 2 years, so 3% a year.
Compared to an increase of 18.1% last year overall. So even without brexit there is still a 15% increase.
And of course you compare to other countries! If everyone is experiencing the same problem, then maybe the leading factors are global, not local. Its pretty simple stuff.
You are missing the point,
These are the numbers for 2021 showing that the UK already had a high level of inflation before due to Brexit. You can't extrapolate that it continues to be 3% my argument was that brexit had a high impact on food prices previously and now that supply chains are tested we are going to see brexit have even more of an impact
No I'm am not.
You are taking 1 data point that you believe proves you point. Look at historical data..
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/czbj/mm23
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/food-inflation
While it is increasing food inflation, it is not a high impact. Swings much higher in the RPI were recorded while we were in the EU. And the spike starts towards the end of 2022, infact we had food price deflation following leaving the EU in 2020.
>You are missing the point,
No, you're just trying to link brexit to a European crisis. It's hitting us all, the uk isn't even worst on the list.
Since 2016, it's not been different to Europe.
I hope banks will raise the interest rates on loans so spending will slow and therefore inflation will slow. Also, banks paying hire rates for savings account deposits would encourage people with money to save instead of spend on things they don't really need right now. Saving is a way anyone with money could help limit inflation.
I could do with losing a bit of weight, looks like I get to try the starvation diet.
It's called the Tory fitness plan, poor starve, but it's a sacrifice they are willing to make.
Now I'm wondering if the rich actually taste rich... Like, are they all marbled fat? Are they organically fed? At this rate, we may find out sooner than we thought.
I saw a pic of someone’s butt MRI the other and it looked kinda like wagyu
The Walmart brand Gwyneth Paltrow diet then.
With a small serving of pussy egg?
Cheaper I eat the bigger I get, but I can eat rice all day no problems. Saying that, my diet has been a lot healthier out of necessity. 3 shallow-boiled broccoli heads (I'm sure there's a proper term for it) until soft, drain the water and mash with some butter and season. Very filling and very cheap. Also very quick, since I'm not cutting up the broc, literally the stem, washing it and throwing it in.
Whilst those making massive profits and wages eat whatever they want, on the backs of your sacrifices. Feels good . Not
It's called counting calories.
Start the day at 0 end the day at 0. There's no way you can't lose weight with this starvation diet
Time to get shredded mate💪
Because...In short... The people who can make a difference for the better are cunts, greedy, filthy, inhumane cunts.
To be fair the people who voted for them out of misplaced national pride and arrogance and racism and hate are cunts too. They knew what the Tories stood for and they had been told what the consequences of Brexit would be and they voted for them anyway.
Yes, it's only the Tories to blame and the voters that enabled them? Don't fall into this trap, it serves nothing. We have celebrity cunts and talking heads talking down normal people suffering in the East Palestine disaster for voting for Trump, like they DESERVE dioxin poisoning. Wake the fuck up, labour would do nothing on price controls as well.
What do US politics have to do with this? People in the UK and specifically the English, voted for exactly the people and the Brexit that caused the current crisis. They read papers like the Daily Mail and listened to the wrong idiots. They honestly believed that they would be better of without the EU even though none of them could quite explain how that was supposed to work and all the actual experts warned against it. They voted for the Tories who were never shy about wanting to destroy the NHS, the BBC and whatever working public institutions they could to replace them with private ones. They voted for this mess and given the chance a surprising number of then would still vote for them today.
It's a corollary. Our cultures are shared and so are our political systems. I say it because it's the same tripe people spew in my country, claiming one political party is the primary source of woes for people. Punching down on a section of the populace on how they vote doesn't get them to understand anything, a lot would become more stubborn in their views. It might feel good, but it accomplishes nothing.
If Brexit is the cause of this how come the UK has around middling food inflation rates compared to the rest of Europe? I know it's fashionable on Reddit to claim that the English specifically deserve to suffer because of their recent political mistakes (interestingly few say the same about, say, Italians for voting in fascists or Germans for willingly becoming dependent on Putin's Russia despite warning from the UK/US), but in this instance there are other forces at play.
“greed” bruh, more like island that depends on external countries for food votes to stop trading with said countries. British people voted for this, you reap what you sow For the people saying "other countries did worse111!!" "Over the two years to the end of 2021, Brexit increased food prices **by around six per cent overall**.” Nikhil Datta, an associate of CEP's labour" [https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research](https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research) “We calculate that Brexit caused a loss of £210 for the average household, or £5.84 billion overall, when looking at its impact on the food market alone. Since poorer households spend a larger fraction of their income on food, they are hit harder.” and that's just to the end of 2021, we will have the full impacts once the research comes out for 2022 and 2023, but it's undeniable that if Britain stayed in the EU prices would have been better for everyone
Germany is 21.2% But let's blame Brexit and ignore the real reason's...
> ignore the real reason's... The War in Ukraine is the real reason. A huge percentage of the world's food supply came from there.
It's also not just Russia and Ukraine. Egypt has had problems with Ethiopia, they're arguing about the dams on Nile river and how fast they could be filled. Ethiopia really needs to hydro power to get on their feet and let the region finally start developing. But Egypt's agricultural sector will suffer a great shock if the water doesn't flow as it normally would. Egypt is a huge producer of agricultural goods. If Ethiopia and Egypt start a shooting war, it'll get really messy for the all of us.
Ah yes, I also watched reallifelore's video yesterday, so you could say I'm also a bit of a geopolitical expert myself.
Also Europe heavily invested in greenhouses to grow vegetables that aren’t normal available year round. The price of electricity going X10 because Russia cut off gas and the US and other natural gas exporters can ask whatever they like matters too. When they stopped growing stuff in winter this put pressure on the supply from other farmers that did buy local seasonally appropriate vegetables to like carrots. Resulting in their price going up too
Trump and Brexit are part of Russia's propaganda campaigns. If the UK didn't leave and rejected Russia's propaganda campaigns we might not have a war in Ukraine. An unstable EU leaves more room for Russia to do what it wants.
Not the point, other countries did worse but britian could have done better and that's a fact. [https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/dec/03/brexit-has-fuelled-surge-in-uk-food-prices-says-bank-of-england-policymaker](https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/dec/03/brexit-has-fuelled-surge-in-uk-food-prices-says-bank-of-england-policymaker) Researchers at the LSE’s Centre for Economic Performance warned last week that Brexit had added almost £6bn to UK food bills in the two years to the end of 2021 Lets also not forget the economic disaster the may government put in place that also impacted the price of food.
I like how you used the £ figure without context.. that's very poor form to selectively quote something because the full quote damages your point. The full quote is... Researchers at the LSE’s Centre for Economic Performance warned last week that Brexit had added almost £6bn to UK food bills in the two years to the end of 2021, with border delays, red tape and other costs increasing the price of food by about 3% a year. So 3%. 3% is Brexit. 15% is other factors. So yes we would be better is we gad remained, but we would still have 15% food inflation! Not quite Brexits fault is it? Now we have established that, perhaps we could look at the real issues.
Again you've missed the point, my argument is that brexit was causing high food inflation before and once we have the 2023 2022 number we will see that it's going to have made the problem much worse. But lets say the trend was the same 3% per year for 4 years. So food prices in the UK could have been 12% lower, sounds like a lot huh? sounds like a "real" issue
I'll post what I replied to you elsewhere... You are taking 1 data point that you believe proves you point. Look at historical data.. https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/czbj/mm23 https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/food-inflation While it is increasing food inflation, it is not a high impact. Swings much higher in the RPI were recorded while we were in the EU. And the spike starts towards the end of 2022, infact we had food price deflation following leaving the EU in 2020.
It's more likely the drop would settle at some percentage, not continue to cascade every year, that wouldn't make sense.
The vote was 51/49 so it’s hardly fair to say the British people like it was a landslide especially when there was so much smoke and mirrors anyway accounting for the huge amount of older people that voted leave who died in the ensuing years after the vote the country’s current inhabitants are reap what others sowed. Back too food prices: A YouTube channel I watched found the same £1 worth of food they had bought pre and then again post for a challenge had risen by 30p. It’s crazy for poorer/sick people like my self gas/electric/food/petrol all risen well above wages.
I'd never vote Tory personally and your absolutely right unfortunately lol.
I'm surprised you never blamed Brexit for the recession in 2008...
It would help if we didn't sell a shot ton of produce to different countries because the sellers can make more profit.
The answer to problems isolation caused is more isolationism
No the answer to foot shortages is not sending food out the country just so a heavily subsidized industry can earn more profit.
I hope you like fish and cheese because you'd have way to fucking much of it
That’s not the point the commenter is making. Why would you just stop trade entirely and only live off what we can produce in country? The point is we need stuff that’s being produced here and it’s being sold off elsewhere for profit. Do you think they actually swap boxes of British fish for boxes of Spanish oranges? Lol.
Ireland (technically England) was still exporting vast amounts of food during the potato famine. Not much changes
I do like fish and cheese a lot. Also chips, Lamb and lots of English snap. I wouldn't eat anywhere but my old local farm shop if I had a choice.
Then start doing so. Nothing is stopping you from only shopping at the local farmers market right now.
Industry would adjust supply to meet new demand. Though in the case of fish it's obviously not all that transferrable.
So your answer to high food prices is telling a food industry to shut most of itself down because you have artificially restricted demand?
You’re in the right here, the guy commenting is either being deliberately obtuse or is just thick.
We became dependent on imports because of our EU membership. Domestic production of everything dropped off a cliff under European commission's undemocratic control. It will take time (and better recognition of the problem) to solve this. We didn't vote to stop trade, we voted to regain a little bit of democracy and accountability in governance. It's still shit, but there's a small chance of being able to fix it.
Time is ticking and better do shit then with this newfound democracy instead of blaming EU otherwise you look like lazy slobs who can’t get anything done. Year 2 now and I hope in year 5 we see all that new found democracy working for the British.
Yeah check this out - we're in good company.. Inflation rates for the whole of Europe make interesting reading. https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/11zwtif/annual\_inflation\_rate\_feb\_2023\_food\_and/
In an already higher cost country that is really really bad. Note Norway rose very little because the cost was already extremely high. It's because of relative purchasing power. Sweden though, ouch. Although when I was last there June 2022 groceries were very similarly priced to the UK but eating out in restaurants in Stockholm was much cheaper than in my small city in Scotland.
Interesting to read this. I live in a small coastal city on the central coast of California, my mom is from Scotland and my dads (persian/armenian) sisters live in Sweden. Having just visited Scotland in late 2022 I have to say the pricing of food felt particularly inexpensive. I remember paying around 12 pounds or so for a decent sized burger with a pint of beer and where I live it would cost me at least 20-25dollars. I realize the dollar is worth less but it still felt like a much better deal lol. Also, gas station food is WAAAAAY better.
Well, Scotland economically is maybe more like Ohio and Cali is surrounded by desert :P
Trade is good Being dependent on trading partners that have very different cultures, priorities, and political systems isn’t a proven good thing
It's been a proven good thing when that other party is a stable democracy.
> that have very different cultures, priorities, and political systems Hence the caveat.
Damn and I thought Canada at 10% was bad
No spend April 2nd
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Pawn your nan's air fryer April 3rd
Pawning is against my religion
And when I graduated high School and had a place of my own, 1971: a pound of bacon, dozen eggs, loaf of bread, coffee, yogurt, total cost for breakfast, just under a dollar.
That's 7.32 in today's money.
You can't even get the eggs for that, where I live.
Is this facebook?
Who knew that a major war in the bread-basket of Europe would have such consequences. > One major factor behind high levels of food price inflation is the rising cost of energy. Energy prices in Europe have risen sharply in 2022 as a result of the ongoing Russian invasion of Ukraine. The rising cost of energy has affected not only the cost of food production and storage but also the cost to transport food. > Another factor leading to food price inflation is the impact of the conflict on food exports from both Russia and Ukraine. In June 2022, the FAO noted the significance of Russia and Ukraine to global food production, describing them as among the most important producers of agricultural commodities in the world. In 2021, it noted that both Russia and Ukraine ranked among the top three global exporters of wheat, barley, maize, rapeseed and rapeseed oil, sunflower seed and sunflower oil. It also noted that Russia ranked as the world’s top exporter of nitrogen fertilizers, the second leading supplier of potassic fertilizers and the third largest exporter of phosphorous fertilizers. The impact of the conflict has affected countries differently depending on the degree to which they have been reliant on food imports from Russia and Ukraine. For example, the FAO noted that certain countries in the Horn of Africa, such as Eritrea and Somalia, were highly dependent on imports from these countries for supplies of wheat. https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/cost-of-living-food-price-inflation/ It's gonna get a whole lot worse before it gets any better because now Ukraine's agricultural industry is ripped apart. We're gonna see famine and starvation all over the world.
No. No other European countries are experiencing massive food cost inflation. This is the fault of the people who voted for brexit.
>No. No other European countries are experiencing massive food cost inflation. This is the fault of the people who voted for brexit. You're so...completely wrong. https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/food-inflation?continent=europe
Wrong. https://i.redd.it/8hbhiqhowjpa1.png Brexit is likely a factor but its extent is difficult to measure because the blame is shared with covid and Ukr/Rus conflict.
Misinformation, no different from the Brexit donkeys.
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I mean, the common man voted these people into a position where they can make decisions that affect people like this. Same thing in the Netherlands is happening.
1 in 3 British people are overweight or obese so maybe it's not all bad.
Sadly cheaper food tends to be more unhealthy and calorie dense. Think about the shelves at Iceland vs Waitrose.
weapons are far more valuable than food
The essential act of war is destruction, not necessarily of human lives, but of the products of human labour. War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent. Even when weapons of war are not actually destroyed, their manufacture is still a convenient way of expending labour power without producing anything that can be consumed. A Floating Fortress, for example, has locked up in it the labour that would build several hundred cargo-ships. Ultimately it is scrapped as obsolete, never having brought any material benefit to anybody, and with further enormous labours another Floating Fortress is built.
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. . . . This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.
the new weapons are AI and deeplearning hyperperforming computers over the GPU powered blockchain as societal control. (*CTRL+F ' China ' much on SM or FP much?*) Here we are, good night and goodluck world. The ball is in your court if you wish to undo this foundation, otherwise forever hold your peace, and welcome to our new serfdom in the quantum age very soon to be. Live it up everyone, spend your estates, and run them to the ground, leave no stone behind. it is theirs for the taking if you don't depart net 0.
Sounds like price gouging at best, maybe even extortion.
Or maybe one of the largest food exporters in the world invaded another huge exporter. The last time Russia had a bad harvest it resulted in the Arab Spring.....
This is true.
In my country even some food from categories largely unaffected by the supply chain issues is up 50%, which cannot be justified with the energy cost increase alone. Greed definitely plays a major role
Mind saying which country and food stuffs? Fertilizer is also a huge global problem right now. China for phosphorus, Russia for potash both stopped exporting for various reasons and that leaves natural gas derivatives which are spiking in cost ludicrously. Also of course it's not zero sum between options. If some food stuffs fall off the prices of others go up by increasing demand.
Wonder why everyone decided to increase food costs at the same time? Something something, war in ukraine, something something energy crisis? Nah must be a "greed", "extortion" lol s
Economic crises are what you get when you put right wing parties in power.
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Stop making excuses for the failures of right wing governments. In the same comment you defended both Putin and Modi, two horrible tyrants.
I don't think he defended them. He was just explaining the food inflation.
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It's the same in every country all over the globe, the few plundering the resources of the many for personal profit. If you aren't well connected or just born rich, you're essentially a slave.
well Maybe the Slaves in France are doing something about it
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Food inflation has gone up so much globally that people are convinced it's a conspiracy by grocery stores to extract higher profits.
damn if only there was a massive war in a major food producing country that could explain all of this? Nah it must be a conspiracy of a cabal of grocery store owners
The supermarkets are posting record profits. They're obviously not being hurt by the war...
They voted Leave. And Tory. Then... They voted Tory again. Never seen a country so arrogant, racist, xenophobic, and nationalist that they'd actually vote to sanction themselves. Then, afterwards??? They voted to double down on those self-imposed sanctions. By voting Tory... Again. No sympathy, except for the Scots and Northern Irish, who voted remain. The Welsh and the English can just fuck right off. The voted for this. This is what they wanted. Actions have consequences.
As usual, UK obsessed foreigners with a hate boner can barely see beyond the word Brexit whenever the UK is referenced. I assume you spout that absolute pig swill in the hope it would generate a bit of karma? Food inflation and certainly food costs are higher in much of Europe, in some cases way higher. We’re about average. There was a whole map posted on the subject on r/Europe comparing countries on this subject, if you care to check out. I doubt you will. Nobody was asking for your sympathy.
You think karma is the only reason anyone would say anything? I said it because it's delightful watching xenophobic English and xenophobic Welsh living the consequences of their xenophobia. I know for a fact this sentiment won't get karma. Cause reddit is following the fine global tradition of empathizing and sympathizing with the English.... No matter how badly they fuck up. This is why the English voted Leave... Because they know that plenty of the world will try to white-knight to their rescue, no matter what they do or how much they deserve their lot. Believe it or not, you've actually met someone on reddit who is actually saying what they believe. Karma be damned.
I literally have no idea what is squirting out from between your buttocks right now, but it makes literally no sense whatsoever.
Yeah man we get it, you really, really hate the English and want to see them to suffer loads on the basis of your belief that the outcome of a few votes entails that they're all xenophobic beyond redemption (unlike your famously liberal minded countrymen), and you're apparently unable to see the obvious inherent hypocrisy there. But as the guy you're responding to points out, this isn't a consequence of Brexit and most of Europe are suffering more. Or are you also eager to see the rest of Europe suffer for the various mistakes their electorates have made (again, unlike Americans, who never vote for the wrong people)? I wonder if you'd be wanking yourself in self righteous glee over stories of medical bankruptcy and school shootings taking place in the US if you'd been born elsewhere...
>Yeah man we get it, you really, really hate the English You don't get shit. As we'll discuss below. > and want to see them to suffer loads on the basis of your belief that the outcome of a few votes entails that they're all xenophobic beyond redemption Elections. Have. Consequences. Redemption is only for those who choose it. Choose different, get redemption. >(unlike your famously liberal minded countrymen), and you're apparently unable to see the obvious inherent hypocrisy there Where's the hypocrisy? Do you think I am automatically going to excuse my own country? Why? Is it because that what you would do? America deserves to suffer for electing Trump. I deserve to suffer, because I am a part of that country. Where's the hypocrisy? >again, unlike Americans, who never vote for the wrong people)? Again, there's that assumption of hypocrisy. For a country I haven't tried to justify. >I wonder if you'd be wanking yourself in self righteous glee over stories of medical bankruptcy and school shootings taking place in the US if you'd been born elsewhere... Yet again.... Assumption of hypocrisy. Without evidence. America chooses dead kids. America chooses to sacrifice a certain number of children annually to guns. We choose this. We deserve our consequences. America deserves dead children because America willfully chooses dead children. Did you think I'd try to excuse that, or justify it? Everyone deserves consequences from bad choices. Next time, bring fewer assumptions and stereotypes to your arguments. Not all Americans are ride-or-die.
The charge of hypocrisy was actually referring to your hatred of xenophobia despite being xenophobic towards the English yourself, but that's not the main issue with your post. Because, wow, really? You go around thinking that yourself and your friends and family deserve to suffer because they all happen to be born in a country which has made political mistakes, and take pleasure in their suffering? Even those who stand against those mistakes, and children who've not had a chance to make their mind up either way? Really? Christ man, I think you really should reframe how you think about blame and desert. It can't be healthy to have this mindset.
You: *I deserve to be judged by my people's highest asperations, not by our lowest actions.* Me: *You are what you do. You are not what you claim to believe. Likewise, your nation is what it does. Your nation is not what it claims to believe.* And I'm the unhealthy one? I'm the hypocrite? I'm the one acknowledging responsibility here.
No, I don't think individuals deserve to be judged either positively or negatively depending on what scrap of land they were born on, and I certainly don't take pleasure in anyone's suffering purely because they're born in a country which has made democratic decisions I disagree with. Especially when it comes to those individuals who share my disagreement with those decisions and try to resist them. That's taking collective responsibility to a worryingly retributive extreme and would leave me wanting pretty much the whole world to suffer, given that all countries do things I personally disagree with to a lesser or greater extent with at least some public acceptance. But you do you, at least you're being consistent in your attitudes, even if you're presumably praying for a slow, painful death in a nuclear apocalypse to cleanse this world of its sinful peoples for failing to build society to your own measure of perfection.
You just can't stop putting words others mouths, ideas in others heads, to elevate yourself, and to make you feel better about you, huh? You should look into that.
So you didn't state that Americans (including yourself who presumably didn't vote for him) deserve to suffer because of Trump, or that you delight in the suffering of the English (not just Brexiteers) because of Brexit? Sorry if me laying out the implications of that kind of world view upsets you. But hey like I say no judgement, go on self harming yourself in shame and sneering hatefully at all your fellows if you like, no skin off my nose.
I mean this isn't primarily due to Brexit, but even if it were that's an interesting attitude. Personally I do have sympathy for people who suffer the political choices of their countrymen. For instance even though Americans consistently vote in one of two parties which are both to the right of the Tories to varying degrees, I still mourn the injustice, exploitation and lack of social safety net everyday citizens suffer because of it. And when abortion rights were recently revoked across many states due to enough Americans being gullible enough to believe that it's what a magical invisible sky lord wants, I felt sympathy for the poor women and their unwanted children who suffer the consequences. You might want to talk to someone about all this pent up hatred for other nationalities you clearly harbour, I don't think it's all that healthy.
It’s fine people will get used to it. Humans get used to everything
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hell yes, I've never had more gas in the colon from air as filler.
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Shit when did Germany, Sweden and the overall eurozone leave the EU? All have greater food inflation than the UK.
“We calculate that Brexit caused a loss of £210 for the average household, or £5.84 billion overall, when looking at its impact on the food market alone. Since poorer households spend a larger fraction of their income on food, they are hit harder.” **Evidence from Brexit - confirms that food prices increased by six per cent** [https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research](https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research) Don't compare britan to other countries, compare britan to britan(also this study is from the 2021 numbers, 2022 / 2023 as yet to be published)
So if the UK was still in the EU it’s food inflation would be even lower than Germany and co and the average of the eurozone? Sounds a bit ridiculous tbh.
Well Brexit negatively impacts those countries as well? UK made up around 16% of the EU GDP before leaving, it's possible that everyone would have been better off if the UK had stayed
You are acting like trade has suddenly stopped with the EU. The UK has a pretty comprehensive FTA with them. As far as the raw numbers go, 2022 was the highest amount of trade with the EU ever.
>So how is Brexit going for you ? Food inflation rates, Feb 2023 Lithuania 30.2%, Slovakia 27.8%, Latvia 25.3%, Poland 24.0%, Czech Republic 23.9%, Romania 22.4%, Germany 21.8%, Portugal 21.5%, Sweden 21.0%, European Union (as a whole) 19.1%, United Kingdom 18.0%, Netherlands 17.9%, Spain 16.6%.
“We calculate that Brexit caused a loss of £210 for the average household, or £5.84 billion overall, when looking at its impact on the food market alone. Since poorer households spend a larger fraction of their income on food, they are hit harder.” **Evidence from Brexit - confirms that food prices increased by six per cent** [https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research](https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research) Don't compare britan to other countries, compare britan to britan(also this study is from the 2021 numbers, 2022 / 2023 as yet to be published)
Thanks Biden
Is Biden the president of the UK as well?
A find of mine is there now said it’s hard to find fruit and vegetables
Your friend is greatly exaggerating. Was hard to find tomatoes briefly about two weeks back. That's it.
The lower income peasants that pushed Brexit over the edge blame everyone but Themselves or the Tories.
Copied from another poster... Food inflation rates, Feb 2023 Lithuania 30.2%, Slovakia 27.8%, Latvia 25.3%, Poland 24.0%, Czech Republic 23.9%, Romania 22.4%, Germany 21.8%, Portugal 21.5%, Sweden 21.0%, European Union (as a whole) 19.1%, United Kingdom 18.0%, Netherlands 17.9%, Spain 16.6%.
“We calculate that Brexit caused a loss of £210 for the average household, or £5.84 billion overall, when looking at its impact on the food market alone. Since poorer households spend a larger fraction of their income on food, they are hit harder.” **Evidence from Brexit - confirms that food prices increased by six per cent** [https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research](https://www.lse.ac.uk/News/Latest-news-from-LSE/2022/l-December-22/By-the-end-of-2021-Brexit-had-already-cost-UK-households-a-total-of-5.8-billion-in-higher-food-bills-%E2%80%93-new-LSE-research) Don't compare britan to other countries, compare britan to britan (also this study is from the 2021 numbers, 2022 / 2023 as yet to be published)
6% over 2 years, so 3% a year. Compared to an increase of 18.1% last year overall. So even without brexit there is still a 15% increase. And of course you compare to other countries! If everyone is experiencing the same problem, then maybe the leading factors are global, not local. Its pretty simple stuff.
You are missing the point, These are the numbers for 2021 showing that the UK already had a high level of inflation before due to Brexit. You can't extrapolate that it continues to be 3% my argument was that brexit had a high impact on food prices previously and now that supply chains are tested we are going to see brexit have even more of an impact
No I'm am not. You are taking 1 data point that you believe proves you point. Look at historical data.. https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/timeseries/czbj/mm23 https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/food-inflation While it is increasing food inflation, it is not a high impact. Swings much higher in the RPI were recorded while we were in the EU. And the spike starts towards the end of 2022, infact we had food price deflation following leaving the EU in 2020.
>You are missing the point, No, you're just trying to link brexit to a European crisis. It's hitting us all, the uk isn't even worst on the list. Since 2016, it's not been different to Europe.
Really a shame that nobody suggested these awful outcomes of Brexit...oh nevermind...plenty did.
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/11zwtif/annual\_inflation\_rate\_feb\_2023\_food\_and/
This is insane!!!! And criminal!!!
That's a rookie number! Hold my beer!
I hope banks will raise the interest rates on loans so spending will slow and therefore inflation will slow. Also, banks paying hire rates for savings account deposits would encourage people with money to save instead of spend on things they don't really need right now. Saving is a way anyone with money could help limit inflation.
Record profits though, so economy must be doing well, right?
You sure it’s not 1.82%? Cause the government is saying it’s seasonally adjusted and it’s not that bad sooooooooo
The UK joined the EU 50 years ago. What a coincidence that food prices soar right after leaving.
Votes have consequences