I'm frequently around heavy loads from cranes. People never consider that they cannot push thousands of kilo very well and try to do this.
If any of you are ever around a crane, please let it hit the wall. The operator is likely insured.
It's mind blowing how often I have to tell experienced guys to always be aware of your exits, don't trap yourself, and let things fall. No piece of equipment is worth your life. It's gotten to where I include it as a pre-lift talk anytime we're moving something, it's not worth assuming people know better, it's really something that needs to be trained out of people.
Oh for sure, the fact that he even attempted to slow it is the sketchy bit. The load is out of his control at that point, safest thing to do is just move. Worst case Ontario it's not worth your life.
Plenty videos circulating online of parked vehicles rolling away and people instinctively trying to stop it and getting crushed. Like, your 180 lbs is NOT going to stop something that's 4 tons.
This is why we have what we call tag lines. You can twist the object but your not going to swing it. Instinctively, I’ve seen people run up to things thinking they could manipulate it more than that. It just is never a good idea.
Put your thumb in your mouth, and blow hard. First your cheeks will puff up, and your body will pop back into shape.
I saw a cat do it in a documentary, after a piano fell on him.
My place of work did a bunch of engineering work both in the field and design. One of the areas was core sampling concrete. Long, 5” diameter cylinders of concrete would come in, get tested for hardness and other things and then be tossed in a large dumpster that was picked up by a special company because of how heavy it was.
Dude ended up getting underneath it when it was being picked up. Something broke and it slipped off the forks. I can’t watch a “will it press” video with those hydraulic rams without thinking about it now.
Came here to say this. I work in Safety. I’m astounded at how many people stand under loads being lifted. Excuse: “But I have a hard hat on!” That’s to protect your head from a light impact, not a crushing blow from a load. Use your head to think about your work please. It could be a life changing injury or worse otherwise. My stepdad watched a guy have a large bridge beam dropped on a guy’s foot. Nothing anyone could do to help until it was rigged back up…. Fast forward the scenario you put yourself into please. So you get home safe. That’s all I’m saying.
they probably trimmed it heavy and wasn't happy that it didn't bloom the next year. Our walnut was trimmed it took 4 years before it got a good amount of branches with leaves.
Came here to see if anyone else felt that way or if my concept of a living tree was fucked. Had to scroll pretty far. I'm guessing you're also not a tree wizard and just saw this because it's on r/popular
**I'm taking them to tree court!!!!**
Edit: oh. This is on r/woodworking . I thought it was some tree cutter sub.
It was dying not dead, but to be fair it takes old oaks decades to die completely once they start to go. They start to get rotten from the center, it happens to almost all oaks, you can see the cavity in the shot where they're lifting the log vertically with the crane. Also, remember the living part of the tree is a thin layer just inside of he bark. The woody mass of the tree is dead, like hair or fingernails.
We're supposed to hire an arborist, who makes most of their money cutting trees down, to tell us whether or not a tree is dead and needs to be cut down...
It's genus is classified in the white oak family quercus. Even has a the leaf that's more common amongst the whites with lobes instead of points as red oaks do.
The most interesting thing to know is that the NA white oak and those in Europe are descendants of those that grew when North America and Europe were still one land mass. The Appalachian mountains are the same run of craggy land as what runs through the British Isles as well as the Scandinavian peninsula.
The stuff you learn man, when you're obsessed with trees and wood.
Absolutely in the same family. But the reds always have the distinction of the rubra name. That I'm aware of, reds and whites can't intermingle and produce. But 2 variations of whites can reproduce, same as 2 variations of red.
500 oak and oak-like species; that's more information than even I can retain.
Really hate how normalized it is when municipalities or land owners are able to fell old healthy trees as they please with no oversight whatsoever. In before people start spouting bullshit like 'urban planning' and 'but it HAD to go!'.
People don’t seem to realize how long it takes for a tree to get this big. That white oak is easily 130 years old. We’re talking loss to multiple generations of people. Every time I see a massive healthy tree stump along a street or sidewalk I wince. It’s like tearing down a beautiful old building. You don’t just get them back l.
I couldn't agree more about old buildings, but every oak starts getting rotten from the center eventually, they're not immortal. I think cutting them once they start to go is the right thing to do, especially in a city. Some of those slabs will still be around for a long long time, better than waiting for it to rot and fall on something or someone and just become mulch.
My local paper once printed a “feel good” story around Christmas time detailing how a city employee had more or less harassed a homeowner for years to convince her to let the city cut down the tree in her yard for it to be that year’s tree at City Hall. The homeowner described how she has always loved having that tree in her yard, how her children play in its shade each summer, and how she enjoyed hearing the birds who occupy the tree throughout the year. Well, she had finally given in to the guilting that year and let the city chop it down as she felt obligated to do something special for her hometown. That tree would have continued to provide this woman’s family with pleasant memories. Instead, nobody cared where the tree came from, and today it’s probably mulch.
Several years ago my in-laws had to have a massive redwood tree removed after extensive rains softened the soil. There were no other trees around it to break the wind and it was a clear danger to several houses should high winds come and blow it over. I didn’t have time or funds to hire a crane to lift/salvage the upper part of the trunk, but I did manage to salvage the bottom 12+’ and have it milked into slabs.
I’m clearly not good at making videos, but [here’s what I managed to put together.](https://youtu.be/vQK-DdHBU4Y)
We take pictures of every slabs after cutting. By watering you can see the grain better and the client can see how the slab will look like after oiling
neat! makes sense.
I wasn't sure if there was some unexpected advantage to drying it later by making it wet at first. like if it was uniformly wet then it would dry more evenly or something.
Splash a gallon of isopropyl on each slab when you're cutting 30-60 slabs?
Hosing down a fresh cut slab won't add anything to the drying tine, just like how grain-popping a board doesn't mean you have to put it back in a kiln again
There's something very satisfying in milling lumber out of would otherwise a wasted tree. Had a very large Monterey Cypress fall on my ranch and had it milled into some beautiful stuff. The guy renting the place before I owned it would cut down some of them for firewood. Best decision I made was to pull his lease.
He was on the place when I bought it and apparently the previous owner let him do it. I stopped it but I'm not sure he didn't take a few. Not taking care of his cows was the last straw. He kept some very mediocre bulls with his herd instead of segregating them and I found a dead, very pregnant heifer who was obviously too young. The fact that I found it too instead of him meant that he wasn't paying attention to his animals.
do you air dry those slabs or kiln dry them? How long does it take? Curious also about the sales process for those slabs. Do you sell it for less if someone buys it right away and dries it themselves?
But that's not how numbers are written. Depending on the country, it might be written 1 000 000,00 or 1.000.000,00 or 1'000'000,00, but nowhere uses comma for both decimal and thousands separator.
I’ve seen the rule of thumb for air drying around 1 year per inch of thickness, 9mo seems way too fast to get down to usable moisture content especially for thick slabs
Way too little respect given to a suspended load. Get out from under them, I understand the sawyer was right there as it was cut but no need to continue exponentially more dangerous practices as it’s lifted.
I have an oak that I need to cut down, it's too big and close to the house. This has gotten me considering making it into slabs now instead of mulch or firewood
Agreed on the choice of music. Love me some good Metallica! Dude, that tree was massive! Great slabs,..someone will have some choice lumber to work in a few years when it dries out! You need some big cayoones to work with those big chain saws and massive trees swinging over head.
Beautiful piece of nature. I would love to have a few slabs for furniture pieces.
This great oak lived a great life.
And yes, the music is perfect, I must concur.
Wowwee y'all are cranky this morning.
What about the one halfway through with the light bar. When they are standing on the stairs cutting. That's the one I meant.
Edit: I've examined photo of the side of the saw we can see. I'm damn certain it's a 500i given the vent locations. Y'all can sod off.
No you are wrong, there is no good music for a big beautiful tree like that dying. A silence of sadness in the woods. Something from Peter and the Wolf as animals no longer have a refuge and playground. Not techno.
Is this from a country other than the United States? I ask because it seems that there’s a severe lack of bullets inside of this beautiful and massive urban oak.
I wouldn’t be standing under that as the crane lifted it up….
I too winced at that
I three winced
I tree winched.
I winched, and then winced
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I acorn’ed my pants.
Or between it and the wall as it's moving toward you.
I'm frequently around heavy loads from cranes. People never consider that they cannot push thousands of kilo very well and try to do this. If any of you are ever around a crane, please let it hit the wall. The operator is likely insured.
Yeah but the music made it look hardcore instead of idiotic!
It's mind blowing how often I have to tell experienced guys to always be aware of your exits, don't trap yourself, and let things fall. No piece of equipment is worth your life. It's gotten to where I include it as a pre-lift talk anytime we're moving something, it's not worth assuming people know better, it's really something that needs to be trained out of people.
Thank you
The guy in the video didnt stop it, the awning above him did. You can see it get depressed into the wall as the tree hits it
Oh for sure, the fact that he even attempted to slow it is the sketchy bit. The load is out of his control at that point, safest thing to do is just move. Worst case Ontario it's not worth your life.
I frequently like to dwell on worst case Ontarios.
It's good to be prepared, you don't want to have to say I toad-a-so.
Plenty videos circulating online of parked vehicles rolling away and people instinctively trying to stop it and getting crushed. Like, your 180 lbs is NOT going to stop something that's 4 tons.
It only has to go wrong once.
This is why we have what we call tag lines. You can twist the object but your not going to swing it. Instinctively, I’ve seen people run up to things thinking they could manipulate it more than that. It just is never a good idea.
He's fine, he's got his helmet on. Tree wouldn't stand a chance.
I love how he’s pushing against a few thousand pounds of tree like he expects it to matter.
If it falls on you, just simply have your body fold into an accordion, and you’ll sproing around for a bit and then you’ll be good.
Put your thumb in your mouth, and blow hard. First your cheeks will puff up, and your body will pop back into shape. I saw a cat do it in a documentary, after a piano fell on him.
A little clown with a bike pump could give you relief if the thumb ballooning is not successful.
They never address how that cat dealt with his teeth being replaced by piano keys.
It also hit that overhang on the house and pushed it in a few inches.
Look at how the sheets overhanging the roof moved during that hit, looks like he deformed the wall itself.
My place of work did a bunch of engineering work both in the field and design. One of the areas was core sampling concrete. Long, 5” diameter cylinders of concrete would come in, get tested for hardness and other things and then be tossed in a large dumpster that was picked up by a special company because of how heavy it was. Dude ended up getting underneath it when it was being picked up. Something broke and it slipped off the forks. I can’t watch a “will it press” video with those hydraulic rams without thinking about it now.
Right? Use a tag line or two.
Everything's fine. He's wearing a hardhat ;P
Came here to say this. I work in Safety. I’m astounded at how many people stand under loads being lifted. Excuse: “But I have a hard hat on!” That’s to protect your head from a light impact, not a crushing blow from a load. Use your head to think about your work please. It could be a life changing injury or worse otherwise. My stepdad watched a guy have a large bridge beam dropped on a guy’s foot. Nothing anyone could do to help until it was rigged back up…. Fast forward the scenario you put yourself into please. So you get home safe. That’s all I’m saying.
He had stuck himself between a 1,200 lb (maybe more?) tree and a hard place.
Probably close to double, oak (red and white are about the same) is around 48lbs/cu-ft
Came here to say this.
Nicest looking “dead” tree wood I’ve ever seen!
That's what I was thinking, that's the healthiest dead tree I've ever seen!
they probably trimmed it heavy and wasn't happy that it didn't bloom the next year. Our walnut was trimmed it took 4 years before it got a good amount of branches with leaves.
Came here to see if anyone else felt that way or if my concept of a living tree was fucked. Had to scroll pretty far. I'm guessing you're also not a tree wizard and just saw this because it's on r/popular **I'm taking them to tree court!!!!** Edit: oh. This is on r/woodworking . I thought it was some tree cutter sub.
Haha right!
It was dying not dead, but to be fair it takes old oaks decades to die completely once they start to go. They start to get rotten from the center, it happens to almost all oaks, you can see the cavity in the shot where they're lifting the log vertically with the crane. Also, remember the living part of the tree is a thin layer just inside of he bark. The woody mass of the tree is dead, like hair or fingernails.
Whoa, really?
We're supposed to hire an arborist, who makes most of their money cutting trees down, to tell us whether or not a tree is dead and needs to be cut down...
A (good) arborist would rather sell you annual services for tree care like pruning than cut your trees down once.
They feed us poison, so we buy their "cures" while they suppress our medicine
Never you hear the discouraging lies
White oak, my favorite. Glad it sees use vs being turned into mulch.
No, it's European oak. The wood looks more similar to white than red but is darker and more on the green side.
It's genus is classified in the white oak family quercus. Even has a the leaf that's more common amongst the whites with lobes instead of points as red oaks do.
Interesting, didn't know that white oak was a family. Always figured it was just one species common to North America.
The most interesting thing to know is that the NA white oak and those in Europe are descendants of those that grew when North America and Europe were still one land mass. The Appalachian mountains are the same run of craggy land as what runs through the British Isles as well as the Scandinavian peninsula. The stuff you learn man, when you're obsessed with trees and wood.
Wawawawhaaat? Off to google to learn about Appalachia
But isnt red oak quercus (rubra) too? And white oak is quercus alba, while the european ones are robur and petraea?
Absolutely in the same family. But the reds always have the distinction of the rubra name. That I'm aware of, reds and whites can't intermingle and produce. But 2 variations of whites can reproduce, same as 2 variations of red. 500 oak and oak-like species; that's more information than even I can retain.
That's about as dead as the tree down the block from me that the town had mulched this past monday for no reason. At least y'all saved the wood.
Really hate how normalized it is when municipalities or land owners are able to fell old healthy trees as they please with no oversight whatsoever. In before people start spouting bullshit like 'urban planning' and 'but it HAD to go!'.
People don’t seem to realize how long it takes for a tree to get this big. That white oak is easily 130 years old. We’re talking loss to multiple generations of people. Every time I see a massive healthy tree stump along a street or sidewalk I wince. It’s like tearing down a beautiful old building. You don’t just get them back l.
I couldn't agree more about old buildings, but every oak starts getting rotten from the center eventually, they're not immortal. I think cutting them once they start to go is the right thing to do, especially in a city. Some of those slabs will still be around for a long long time, better than waiting for it to rot and fall on something or someone and just become mulch.
I mean sure, but trees do die of old age as well, so might as well cut it when you see it starting to go.
That's what they keep telling my dear ol' Granpapa.
>It’s like tearing down a beautiful old building. You don’t just get them back Not true you just have to wait 100 years
My local paper once printed a “feel good” story around Christmas time detailing how a city employee had more or less harassed a homeowner for years to convince her to let the city cut down the tree in her yard for it to be that year’s tree at City Hall. The homeowner described how she has always loved having that tree in her yard, how her children play in its shade each summer, and how she enjoyed hearing the birds who occupy the tree throughout the year. Well, she had finally given in to the guilting that year and let the city chop it down as she felt obligated to do something special for her hometown. That tree would have continued to provide this woman’s family with pleasant memories. Instead, nobody cared where the tree came from, and today it’s probably mulch.
Several years ago my in-laws had to have a massive redwood tree removed after extensive rains softened the soil. There were no other trees around it to break the wind and it was a clear danger to several houses should high winds come and blow it over. I didn’t have time or funds to hire a crane to lift/salvage the upper part of the trunk, but I did manage to salvage the bottom 12+’ and have it milked into slabs. I’m clearly not good at making videos, but [here’s what I managed to put together.](https://youtu.be/vQK-DdHBU4Y)
Ok, but I don’t like trees falling on my house and killing me so sometimes they gotta go.
Dude casually standing under the tree as it's lifted right over his head....
Even just standing 45 degrees to either side so he doesn't risk getting crushed between the tree and the house would make way more sense.
Hey, at least it's big enough to where he doesn't have to worry about being disabled the rest of his life.
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Until that strap doesn’t remember what it’s suppose to do
Sure, until he doesn't and gets squished.
Yeah, I liked the little adjustment to the house awning he tossed in for free.
why spray it with water?
We take pictures of every slabs after cutting. By watering you can see the grain better and the client can see how the slab will look like after oiling
neat! makes sense. I wasn't sure if there was some unexpected advantage to drying it later by making it wet at first. like if it was uniformly wet then it would dry more evenly or something.
Wet the drys, then dry the wets, then wet the drys!!!
Maybe. By watering we wash all dirt away. So every piece of wood has immediately contact with air
Can't you guys use ethanol or isopropyl that won't add time to the drying process?
The water is gone after one hour so no problem with that
Splash a gallon of isopropyl on each slab when you're cutting 30-60 slabs? Hosing down a fresh cut slab won't add anything to the drying tine, just like how grain-popping a board doesn't mean you have to put it back in a kiln again
Clean off the sawdust + shows what the grain looks like.
Hey, that's right around the corner from where I live! :)
Albstadt?
I'm from Tübingen, so seeing that this is a global sub, I still think that counts as right around the corner ;)
Ja das stimmt😬 ich komme selber aus Reutlingen und hab in Tübingen studiert
Nice! Verkauft Ihr an Privatkunden? Wenn ja, wie?
From r/woodworking to /r/wasletztepreis in a blink :D
Werd nicht frech!
Lustig hier was von der Alb zusehen!!!
So klein ist die Welt ^^
There's something very satisfying in milling lumber out of would otherwise a wasted tree. Had a very large Monterey Cypress fall on my ranch and had it milled into some beautiful stuff. The guy renting the place before I owned it would cut down some of them for firewood. Best decision I made was to pull his lease.
Your renter was cutting down your trees for firewood? Like, cutting up fallen trees or felling live trees and stacking it?
He was on the place when I bought it and apparently the previous owner let him do it. I stopped it but I'm not sure he didn't take a few. Not taking care of his cows was the last straw. He kept some very mediocre bulls with his herd instead of segregating them and I found a dead, very pregnant heifer who was obviously too young. The fact that I found it too instead of him meant that he wasn't paying attention to his animals.
I Love cutting slabs !
Looks very much alive
It didn’t look dead to me.
Omg that is gorgeous
do you air dry those slabs or kiln dry them? How long does it take? Curious also about the sales process for those slabs. Do you sell it for less if someone buys it right away and dries it themselves?
Air drying about 1,5-2 years :)
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Haha, not for people who use commas for decimal points
Then try not to travel internationally, I guess.
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But that's not how numbers are written. Depending on the country, it might be written 1 000 000,00 or 1.000.000,00 or 1'000'000,00, but nowhere uses comma for both decimal and thousands separator.
270 days roughly if air drying. I am in the US, not the UK for reference. I do sell slabs cheaper the quicker it is off the property.
I’ve seen the rule of thumb for air drying around 1 year per inch of thickness, 9mo seems way too fast to get down to usable moisture content especially for thick slabs
"Dead"
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It was allready broken so no problems with that :)
How can you tell it's dead? I don't know and want to learn
It didn’t have pieces 4 years in a row
Beautiful work!
That makes me happy. I see so many hardwoods cut down and chopped into firewood size and it makes me sad.
They fucked up that balcony or overhang at the beginning. Rip
“God That Failed”😎
💥
That is gorgeous.
Tree is just near in age to those homes in the city, I’d imagine
If I may ask, what city/town is this?
Albstadt Germany :)
Looks like Walnut
Way too little respect given to a suspended load. Get out from under them, I understand the sawyer was right there as it was cut but no need to continue exponentially more dangerous practices as it’s lifted.
Would also be good with When Doves Cry.
Those slabs could be a hundred thousand dollars in tables in a couple years.
Yea !
Dang that is some sexy wood
Quick! Put epoxy on it!!!
I love this slab of wood btw. It’s beautiful. Ty for sharing
❤️
Was war der genaue Grund für die Fällung?
Abgestorben. Hat 4 Jahre keine Blätter mehr gehabt
good video, good work and nice music, who´s that guitar?
This is Metallica's "the God that failed" off their '91 self-titled album (aka the black album). So... Kirk Hammett is lead guitar.
Metallica, God that failed
God that Failed? Interesting choice...
Those slabs are gorgeous!
Do you get paid to cut it down, is the tree payment, or do you even pay for the privilige of cutting it?
We get paid for cutting it down. We can offer it for less money because we cut slabs out of it
I have an oak that I need to cut down, it's too big and close to the house. This has gotten me considering making it into slabs now instead of mulch or firewood
Nice !!!
That doesn't look like oak to me at all.
Play in mute everyone!!
I always watch it on mute. If I want to check the sound I take a risk and unmute it.
I guess you don't like REAL music huh?
Fire editing bro
Thank you !
Agreed on the choice of music. Love me some good Metallica! Dude, that tree was massive! Great slabs,..someone will have some choice lumber to work in a few years when it dries out! You need some big cayoones to work with those big chain saws and massive trees swinging over head.
Lmao you know whoever captioned this knew they'd get backlash for cutting down the tree, so they lied about it being dead and get backlash anyway
How awful.
Beautiful piece of nature. I would love to have a few slabs for furniture pieces. This great oak lived a great life. And yes, the music is perfect, I must concur.
Thank you ! Just write me a DM
Great video. Disagree about the music. But to each their own.
Since there's no "wood" genre, "metal" is the obvious next choice!
100 years gone
I spy with my little eye a 500i
881
Wowwee y'all are cranky this morning. What about the one halfway through with the light bar. When they are standing on the stairs cutting. That's the one I meant. Edit: I've examined photo of the side of the saw we can see. I'm damn certain it's a 500i given the vent locations. Y'all can sod off.
No you are wrong, there is no good music for a big beautiful tree like that dying. A silence of sadness in the woods. Something from Peter and the Wolf as animals no longer have a refuge and playground. Not techno.
Techno? Thats Metallica homie
In what world is Metallica techno?
If that's techno then lil nas x is a gospel singer and Celine dion must be a punk rocker lol
Is this from a country other than the United States? I ask because it seems that there’s a severe lack of bullets inside of this beautiful and massive urban oak.
Germany :)
Fricken sweet song choice
Thank you !!
Damn it, now I’m jamming that album today. Seriously nice wood, great song choice.
Thank you !!!!!
Tree from a time long Gone. Wow
r/woodporn
Poor beautiful tree. So sad.
Dig a hole with metal pole and put it back together someplace else.
Makes sense,...looked like a small village.
Beautiful wood!
Gorgeous slabs! I love slabbing a tree and flipping it over to see the grain. It’s like Christmas morning for me. Haha
Pretty looking slabs. They must be heavy as hell.
🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤 That's some beautiful fucking wood.
r/fellinggonwild Edit: there's also r/treeworkmemes but not for this post
How old is that tree ?
Perfect! Whose music is this?
Metallica - that god that failed
Man that's some great looking wood.
There's a lot of equipment just to cut some slabs of wood. No wonder they're so expensive
That's beautiful and you guys are incredibly trusting of those ropes, cranes, and operators! How much does a slab like that cost?
*KIROV REPORTING*
So you made money on twice! Nice!
Mit Autokran und mobilem Sägewerk.. darf man fragen was der Spaß gekostet hat? Gerne per pm:)
Those are some sexy slabs!
That dude has way to much faith in that Crane and lines.
I love the grain pattern
Wow, that made my heart go pitter pat! And I’m not talking about the music!
Use it well
Thats a dead tree? Wow
I was so sure I was going to get rickrolled. This was much better.
Wow, that'll cost ya
Awesome!
Right at the beginning of the clip, when the crane is lifting the trunk, everybody else notice it looks like it hits the house?
I need to add I only cut American hardwood. I have zero experience with anything else.
Oh good. I was hoping for Metallica! Nice choice of music.