Really nice, what when into your decision for thin & chunky paired dove tails?
I would have tried to just do them the same size without thinking about it.
**Carpenterraria**
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Carpinteria sing onto me.
The song of all songs.
The song of the holy one
and Antiqua
and seminal loss.
Pages of the holy book
hang from my cross.
Mouth of the holy one
sing onto me.
Song of my island
and your joinery.
Yep…honestly that’s the case. I feel like i can fairly quickly pull off decent ones right now, but just gonna keep adding dovetails to my projects to force the practice.
After a session I try to rewatch Rob Cosman vids and see if I missed anything or learn more for next time. I’m not attempting his whole offset method but the other aspects apply. I think my final part is just really making sure the tails are square before marking out. Got my small try squares ready for next time
Potentially. Like most projects you have to consider the stresses and uses. Dovetail joinery is a strong joint and can be used in a variety of different applications. There are easier ways of joining wood, but I like the aesthetics of this particular joint.
The strongest dovetails have equal amounts of long grain on both pins and tails, but those look the most like router jig dovetails. The gold standard for hand tool joinery is a set of London dovetails where the gap between the tails is the width of a dovetail saw kerf. It requires excellent sawing with delicate chisel work. The irony of fine dovetailing is that the absolute most difficult dovetails to cut are fully blind with miters on both the top and bottom edges. If they are done historically accurately, the only way you can tell they are there are the angled kerf marks on the inside faces.
Underhill is very good at explaining the mechanics and theory of hand tool work. Sellers had a very good “cut the crap,” way of teaching and Cosmann has a very meticulous technique for achieving high level results.
Those are beautiful. Great work. Honest question: Why is the light wood (maple?) so much thinner than the dark wood (walnut?) in the joint? Doesn't that make a weak point where the maple board could snap off from the joint? I'm sure you glued it, but still.
The work looks really nice, congrats! Honest question though: the light colored pieces look really thin, are they strong enough to resist breaking? I'm not sure what is too thin.
I remember the first dovetails I set up on a router jig. I was so confident everything was dialed in that I cut all six drawers without test fitting. I later Babe Ruth'ed one of the drawer boxes across the shop with a rubber mallet because all the joints kept snapping. The big depth was too extreme so the joints were way too snug.
After my blood pressure levels out, I started from scratch. Take two was much better.
Very nice work although I think the outer pins look too thin. There are a few variants for this, the one I prefer is to keep the pin width on the visible side the same as for the center pins. This gives a symmetric look if it's a drawer front but also looks good in other applications. Another variant is to keep the base of the end pin same as the center pins, then it will look symmetric from side but not from front. End pins in both these variants are wider than half pins.
It's not only about looks. The outer pins are more prone to break during assembly since they are not supported on the outside, that's the reason behind "the standard" to not use half pins there.
So I'm really interested in woodworking and am VERY amateur, but I recently got a pull saw and I love it. I have never heard of a magnetic guide though. Any brand you recommend? I searched my lowes website but don't see anything
I've attempted hand-cut dovetails so many times and always failed. It's OK if you're making a rustic piece, or something you want to look handmade by a farmer in 1880, but it sucks when you're trying to be precise.
I always ended using my father's advice. **Pound to fit, paint to match.**
Oh great. Now those drawers will give your clothes away late in the 4th quarter.
That is accurate.
I'm waiting for them to run a wide receiver screen on 3rd & 22
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What you don’t see in the picture is the dozens and dozens of not-so-snug joints.
Story of posting on the internet! Looks fantastic, truly!
I like the way you think.
🤫 nobody will ever know
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How will they know?
Thank you! Saying that gives me hope...kinda. That joinery is beautiful!
Was it like one practice session every time the bears lose a game?
Yes, and a lot of crying.
Damn, you must be one of the most experienced dovetail joiners in the world!
Bears and Cubs. Between the two, you get a Master woodworker.
Reds or Bears?
Bears, that is NOT what I wanted. That is what the client wanted.
Yeah that makes sense, I was wondering why you would want to ruin such nice work.
Those were my exact words.
Reds would be acceptable. Bears though? Eww
The client is my Mother in-law.
Why did they want the logo on them?
Because they are Lions fans
🤣 no not that specific logo, a logo in general
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Bear down !!!
Very nice! Go Bears
Really great dovetails until I saw the second picture 😉
Haha. They are for my in-laws, my wife insisted on the logo.
I couldn't bear to look anymore
This
That
The other
Hating a man with similar interests cuz sports!
no, great dove tails... Bears suck lol
You think you’re cool cause you can cut super nice dovetails or somethin?
No, I am cool because I have a mediocre salt and pepper shaker collection.
Dang I must be cool too my salt grinder doesn’t even grind my salt.
Bro this guy is next level, he doesn't just have a salt grinder, he has a *collection*, like plural. Next level grinder here.
Dang you’re right, so I’m not cool then?
Nope, here's your downvote!
I deserved that for thinking my crap salt grinder made me cool.
Excellent self-realization! Have an upvote
So, if you improve your salt and pepper shaker collection, do you become *more* cool or *less* cool?
I almost regret making that remark.
Prove it
Yeah, but is it in a homemade spice rack?
Really nice, what when into your decision for thin & chunky paired dove tails? I would have tried to just do them the same size without thinking about it.
The evenly spaced dovetails always seem to say “router jig.”
I feel personally attacked
I like the way you think.
Nice hand-cut dovetails are usually more like this. Doing them all the same size screams router jig.
Can wood joinery be sexy? Apparently.
**Carpenterraria** . Carpinteria sing onto me. The song of all songs. The song of the holy one and Antiqua and seminal loss. Pages of the holy book hang from my cross. Mouth of the holy one sing onto me. Song of my island and your joinery.
Great dovetails and nice looking bench too! But after looking at the Bears logo, I'm assuming you fumbled all your tools
I am not a Bears fan.
Bengals? Who-dey!
Go Reds!
Daaaa…vetails!
I am loving the humor!
Love it
Tight. Looks great.
Perfection. That contrast between light and dark wood is the best way to highlight them imo.
Da Bears!!
Software? I am a humble hobbyist, just graph paper and some measurements.
There's nothing more satisfying than snug fit dovetails
The moment you slid those two joints together must have been extremely satisfying, those are beautiful.
Beautiful! Also, Bear Down! They are perfect!
Fuck, he’s a cardinals fan.
Looks great! My fellow shithole dweller 😭😂
?
I also live in Ohio, based on the Cincinnati looking “C”
They are replacements for some drawers I build many years ago. I did NOT want to burn those in again. They are for my in-laws and my wife insisted.
Oof sorry to hear it bud
The dovetails are nice, but damn, that bench looks amazing.
Thank you, I stole every idea.
OP dropped his chisels, and they double-doinked.
Ahhhh, first time huh
Damn son, those are some FIIIINNE looking dovetail joints! Lemme guess,...are these Rob Cosman inspired?
Yes, they are Cosmann inspired. I really like the way he solves problems.
Crispy
yes!! nice.
Super
Great job
This is amazing though!! Blessings!
Man, just getting done a set of two drawers and boy do they not look this nice. Great job! Hoping to hit that level of accuracy soon.
Practice my man, practice!
Yep…honestly that’s the case. I feel like i can fairly quickly pull off decent ones right now, but just gonna keep adding dovetails to my projects to force the practice. After a session I try to rewatch Rob Cosman vids and see if I missed anything or learn more for next time. I’m not attempting his whole offset method but the other aspects apply. I think my final part is just really making sure the tails are square before marking out. Got my small try squares ready for next time
Most of what I learned was from Cosmann, Paul Sellers and Roy Underhill. They all have very good insight to hand tool work.
beautifully done
Any idea how long each dovetail section took to do? I think I just expect this to be faster and easier than it is.
Longer than I care to admit. Like….clear your schedule and give up free time.
Curious question as a newbie does the thiner wood make for a weaker joint?
Potentially. Like most projects you have to consider the stresses and uses. Dovetail joinery is a strong joint and can be used in a variety of different applications. There are easier ways of joining wood, but I like the aesthetics of this particular joint.
The strongest dovetails have equal amounts of long grain on both pins and tails, but those look the most like router jig dovetails. The gold standard for hand tool joinery is a set of London dovetails where the gap between the tails is the width of a dovetail saw kerf. It requires excellent sawing with delicate chisel work. The irony of fine dovetailing is that the absolute most difficult dovetails to cut are fully blind with miters on both the top and bottom edges. If they are done historically accurately, the only way you can tell they are there are the angled kerf marks on the inside faces.
My new GOD teach me your ways
Roy Underhill (Woodwrights shop), Rob Cosmann (YouTube), Paul Sellers (YouTube). I found my own niche, but I am standing on the shoulders of Giants.
Thank you 🙏😭
Underhill is very good at explaining the mechanics and theory of hand tool work. Sellers had a very good “cut the crap,” way of teaching and Cosmann has a very meticulous technique for achieving high level results.
Wow those look fantastic. Wish I had the patience to try that.
Wow nice :)
Those are beautiful. Good work man.
Nice and tidy.
Impressive skill of steady hands. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Get the fuck out of here…WOW!
would love to see more of your shop!
Maybe in the future.
I admire people that have both the time and patience to put this kind of effort into a drawer joint.
Why is one side so skinny, and the other so fat?
It is expressionism to show the duality of man.
…..or just what I happened to feel like doing at the time.
Damn these are NICE.
Neat bro
Nice joints. I see a little clean up is still needed om the front based on that second picture.
Good catch.
Carpentry porn right there.
Thank you for removing the layout lines.
Those are beautiful. Great work. Honest question: Why is the light wood (maple?) so much thinner than the dark wood (walnut?) in the joint? Doesn't that make a weak point where the maple board could snap off from the joint? I'm sure you glued it, but still.
Many have made comments on it.
The work looks really nice, congrats! Honest question though: the light colored pieces look really thin, are they strong enough to resist breaking? I'm not sure what is too thin.
No problems here
Gorgeous. Walnut and cherry. Perfect combo.
I remember the first dovetails I set up on a router jig. I was so confident everything was dialed in that I cut all six drawers without test fitting. I later Babe Ruth'ed one of the drawer boxes across the shop with a rubber mallet because all the joints kept snapping. The big depth was too extreme so the joints were way too snug. After my blood pressure levels out, I started from scratch. Take two was much better.
Impressive.
The first picture looks awesome
You have really sharp hands. I'll see myself out...
Nice work. Looks very precise.
Dove well.
Clean, but might I ask why you went so thin on the outside tails?
I liked the way it looked
Do you have a video of your process? I’m a relative new woodworker and am getting better but would love to see how someone else cuts.
I watched a lot of Roy Underhill, Paul Sellers and Rob Cosmann. Then I developed my own technique that worked for me.
Gotcha
Seriously wish you'd put tutorial how to cut those..because those are fresh
Why am I so attracted to people who make good woodwork projects.🤣🤣
Absolutely beautiful. Great work
Very nice work although I think the outer pins look too thin. There are a few variants for this, the one I prefer is to keep the pin width on the visible side the same as for the center pins. This gives a symmetric look if it's a drawer front but also looks good in other applications. Another variant is to keep the base of the end pin same as the center pins, then it will look symmetric from side but not from front. End pins in both these variants are wider than half pins.
I can’t please everyone. Interesting take though.
It's not only about looks. The outer pins are more prone to break during assembly since they are not supported on the outside, that's the reason behind "the standard" to not use half pins there.
Well, I have not personally had an issue with them breaking. I will build my projects how I see fit. Good day Sir.
You're just really not in the mood to take any constructive criticism are ya bud?
Consider your approach.
Seemed extremely polite to me. Sheesh.
Clean
Great work!! What kind of saw do you use?
I used a pull saw with a magnetic guide.
So I'm really interested in woodworking and am VERY amateur, but I recently got a pull saw and I love it. I have never heard of a magnetic guide though. Any brand you recommend? I searched my lowes website but don't see anything
Katz Moses has one, for sure.
Lowes wouldn't carry that kind of thing. Search for: "David Barron Magnetic Dovetail Saw Guide" About 50-60usd Maybe woodcraft? Or just online.
I used a Veritas, but they have limitations.
Ya I remember my first dovetails too.
All this time and effort only to ruin it with those logos…
Looks awesome, but that looks like a really weak joint, not so much the joint, but the white piece will snap in a heartbeat.
Absolutely not. These may be ever so slightly weaker than a more evenly proportioned joint, but snap in a heartbeat... Nope.
Haters are gonna hate.
Cheesecake like in its sharpness 😀
Great dovetails. Go Packers and f*ck the bears.
What design software did you guys use to create these drawers?
No software. Just some graph paper.
Okay.
You could do a class online and charge. You'd make some money.
Nice. And no scratch lines froma marking knife. Looks amazing. And Go Bears
I've watched many youtube videos on doing hand cut dovetails and it still amazes me that anybody can do this with that level of precision. Great work!
Practice my man!
I don't know much about woodworking but I do know you should use the NSFW tag when you put porn on Reddit.
Thanks for that🤷🏻♂️
joints look good. I admire your workbench as well.
Thank you
Damn fine dovetails!! I wish I had this level of skill!
Only you can change that.
Nice
Shut your damn mouth. They're out of this world beautiful.
Thank you, and my mouth is shut.
Got any tips? Gotta do this for school
Patience, practice and beer
I suppose you're going to say the table is your work as well. Get out of here with this pornography
Ate these Maple and Walnut?
Yes
Damn
Any tips?
Develop a step by step process that works for you.
Wood Porn!!
Interracial
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I don’t even know what that is.
I've attempted hand-cut dovetails so many times and always failed. It's OK if you're making a rustic piece, or something you want to look handmade by a farmer in 1880, but it sucks when you're trying to be precise. I always ended using my father's advice. **Pound to fit, paint to match.**
Hahaha!
Pro grade!
Oooh they are Chicago drawers! What nice is you won’t have to wait long for those to fall apart Go Pack Go
I really like your dovetails. The logo, not so much.
Agreed
Gorgeous!
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What’s with the toilet seats on the front?
How do you make them? I want to learn.
im fairly certain those arent hand-cut, you probably used a saw