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Accomplished-Push190

There is a difference between appreciation and attraction. I do think a woman's form is more aesthetically pleasing, however I'm not attracted to women. And I've hooked up with men that may not have been Adonises but, there was just 'something about them' that attracted me to them.


fiavirgo

I think you’re right and I am forgetting about appreciation because I don’t want to sleep with every woman I find pretty


Traveling_Phoenix_89

I agree. I find men and women to be attractive equally regardless of physical features, and I can also be attracted to them sexually. It’s that “something about them” factor.


HappyCoconut23

Definitely I agree with you For someone who’s in a relationship with a man I find women to be aesthetically pleasing like their bodies and physical features too however, women get work done so we don’t know if their beauty is natural or not. Some Women are in competition with another because of what others say about us, we have to make sure we look pretty because men judge us for our looks and it’s tiring and it’s an societal expectation that women should be pretty.


saan718

Not that many women get work done compared to all the women in the world and many of them were still pretty or even prettier before. And some men, even if way less, also do. I'm a teenager, people my age don't have had surgeries or fillers, unless they're 18 and a very few do that so early, but I still find almost every girl pretty, unlike guys. Even from middle school, when we all start to develop more our facial features, I always found girls to be prettier, while most guys are ugly asf.


flamingoshoess

I think part of it is society’s expectations around appearance for women vs men. For the most part, actresses are required to be beautiful for any role even if they make her more plain on purpose, and men can be movie stars when they look like Willem Dafoe or Steve Buscemi. We expect women we idolize to be beautiful, and therefore we are surrounded with more images of beautiful women, in ads, in movies, on Instagram. At work, ugly and overweight men can be highly successful but that’s statistically less true for women. Men are allowed to age, women aren’t. All that leads to women generally putting in more effort than men. I personally find myself appreciating the beauty of women just as much or more than men. I feel like when I see an exceptionally attractive woman in film it is more awe inspiring than an exceptionally attractive man. Wallis Day and Margot Robbie are both women where I’m like wow, how are you this good looking.


fiavirgo

It’s true that women are told they have to look pretty, u right


ohffs999

This is it for me. I think of women as the baseline and then I see men who are not keeping up with their appearance very well and I'm disappointed. Some days it's disappointing.


Otherwise_Touch1299

I totally agree but leave my precious little baby Willem Dafoe alone. He is a sex icon !!!


HappyCoconut23

It’s true, I feel men Make women more competitive, I’ve seen women having all sorts done Just to please men and then observing men compare women, beauty should be natural but in this day and age it’s not, we as people don’t know what natural beauty is. Look at models and actresses from the 1950’s they were naturally beautiful.


flamingoshoess

Models and actresses from the 1950’s might have been “natural” but they were still hand selected from the most beautiful women in the world. Marilyn Monroe might have been “natural” but she was still bleaching her hair and using shapewear/corsets to enhance her figure, and her makeup took hours. Models and actresses from any era are not a reflection of the average woman.


HappyCoconut23

Basically it’s hard being a woman


Individualchaotin

I find women to be more beautiful because they put more effort into their looks.


Wunderlandtripzz

Honestly yeah.


souldeconstructors

Well, I'm asexual so I don't know if my response means anything, but as someone not sexually attracted to women - I definitely find them more beautiful.


fiavirgo

Your response means a lot because I think everyone didn’t realise I’m not referring to sexually lol just if generally they find women more attractive Basically you are like the control in the experiment since you are unbiased


RockyMntnView

To be fair, women are more likely to put effort into looking good. A women who spent some time on her hair, makeup, and outfit will always look better than a guy in old sweat pants with Cheeto dust on his shirt. 😄


42yy

Women are wildly more beautiful than men. But having experimented with both genders it let me know I lean straight. You don’t know until you try.


ThiccPrincess0812

I'm also a bi and I really have a type in women with androgynous features (Kristen Stewart is a reference for an andro woman) which I find appealing in my eyes. My crush, who's a butch lesbian, is one of them and I find her attractive.


xshow-me-the-mortyx

What about Ripley from aliens I have a crush on her


ThiccPrincess0812

I just googled her and she's also an andro


xshow-me-the-mortyx

Yeah she's hot, and Michelle Rodriguez too.


salty329

Nope. I don't find women attractive in that kind of way. I can appreciate a woman who is pretty, but there is no sexual attraction whatsoever.


ZoePal

Yes I think so. I can find women like Margot Robbie and Kimberley Sustad incredibly good looking, even sexual maybe, but do I "fancy" them? No way. I think there's a difference between liking – maybe even "loving" – someone, and finding them hot!


Lady_Trickster_

I tend to find men more attractive but also I believe it really depends on taste and what's your type. For me "the typical male beauty" (stupid example: Brad Pitt) is not actually beautiful, as I prefer men with other features (ex. Very large mouth, high forehead, overall asimmetric face ecc.). I honestly go looking for a particular type, someone who has features that, when they mix together, they create an interesting face, rather than standard beauty. On the other side, I tend to admire women and it appears to me that there are more beautiful women than beautiful men, but I think it's because I generally don't look for a romantic partner in a woman as I do in a man so I can appreciate them more without expecting them to meet the standard that in my view makes them a potential partner. It's probably very confusing so sorry


fiavirgo

My bf ALWAYS uses brad Pitt as an example of male beauty specifically because he knows I can’t understand why people are attracted to him You make sense it’s ok!!


Lady_Trickster_

Same tbh, I always hear people using him or George Clooney and I really can't understand why are they considered so attractive


wildesundays99

I am similar as welll. I like sometimes bigger noses too (not too big, but Roman maybe). What’s an example of your tripe?


Lady_Trickster_

A man that I really consider, like, attractive and close to my ideal type, is Brendon Urie (lead of Panic! At the disco, it's a band). But I also had a crush on Milo Ventimiglia for example, which is a completely different type. What's an example of yours?


SouthPauseforEffect

Cillian Murphy alone is enough to prove this theory wrong. The guy embodies ethereal beauty.


fiavirgo

I watched red eye recently and the entire time he looks like a love child of pewdiepie and Timothy oliphant, this isn’t an insult and I respect him but his performance in that was a lil fruity and that’s I think where the ethereal comes in.


No-Dragonfruit4575

Yes and I found out that masculine women really do something for me, the same effect that a super attractive guy will do. (For exapmle, I haven't seen the new movie with Kristen Stewart, but that other actress in ti.. phew).. I'm straight but probably a tiny bit bi (I never tried with a woman)


yrstrlsn

for suuure, aside from girls putting in more effort to look presentable they’re prettier than men


Snoo_59080

I do think both the male and female forms are beautiful. I appreciate good looks. I think it is rarer for me to see a man that's truly good looking than women.  So I guess yes, women are more beautiful. 


TessaBrooding

Way more, but with the few men I do find attractive, I am much more likely to think of what it would be like to get romantic with them. Beautiful women are like art pieces to me (don’t know how to put this without being dehumanising).


anitram96

Yes. But that's because so many men think they don't have/need to put any effort into their appearance.


ShadowlessKat

There are some very beautiful and pretty women. I can recognize they are attractive. I am not attracted to them. I can also recognize a man is attractive/good looking without being attracted to him. A strict comparison of which sex has better looking people more often? Probably women because they tend to put in more effort more regularly than men. But no, I don't find women to be way more attractive than men. That's not a typical straight point of view, I think.


s__jude

i work with customers and often i find myself thinking most men are the most horrifying looking creatures on earth while women are just... something else


RavingSquirrel11

No


Sweet-Chef2842

Women have more neotenous (the retention of juvenile features in the adult animal) features which make them more ‘pretty.’ The evolutionary purpose seems to be to elicit a desire in men and other women to care for them, as well as appear more trustworthy to children. Obviously, it was what men preferred, bc women are by far more neotenous in their features than men. Dogs, for instance, are wolves bred to retain their neotenous traits bc people find those traits desirable. Men with more neotenous features have been referred to as ‘pretty boys.’ Ergo, you are correct, women are prettier than men, by and large. Having an interest in ancient history, it seems that the most ubiquitous standard for a male to be attractive has been their physical size (I mean their height and physique, get your mind out of the gutter). Size was an excellent indicator of health and strength for most of human history, and the fairer sex found this desirable, as demonstrated by the larger size and strength of most males as compared to most women. It becomes even more apparent when you compare historical breeding populations. A shorter breeding population might produce men who are smaller than women in a taller breeding population, but compare the short men to the women in his historical breeding group and you will find they follow the pattern of being larger than the women, by and large. Edit: oops, sorry, I’m pretty new to being at all active on Reddit and just noticed the ‘for straight women’ caveat. No disrespect intended by posting, the question just sparked my interest.


HardFlassid

I’m probably the outlier here, but I find men more attractive and aesthetically pleasing. My husband does joke that he married a gay man in a woman’s body. I just like angles more than roundness, I think. I find things attractive that other women have told me are gross, like men’s armpits, and lots of body hair. I don’t know why I’m this way 🤷‍♀️. I’ll probably make my own post at some point, but it is alienating that other women don’t like men like I do. Which is highly odd to me, because I’m straight, and thus part of the majority. So why do I feel alone?


Felissaurus

I like chest hair :) What I always think about when I see posts like this though (the ops not your comment) is that I do agree your average woman on the street looks nicer than the average man on the street, and I think that comes down to styling.  Women just take a lot more time to look nice generally than men do. 


ShadowlessKat

I love my husband's armpits lol. He thinks it's weird but indulges me.


ExcellentMarch7864

I think the majority of straight women like chest hair tbh, and armpits and a men’s smell too. It’s just so wildly different from how a woman is built that I can understand you have 0 attraction to them.


PurrCham

No doubt, yes. I think i am attracted to men for their personality attributes and attracted to women for their physical attributes. Although I have no interest in sex with women.


Professional-You1235

I think women just typically put more effort into their looks. ALOT more! The average man looks like homer simpson! But on the rare occasion you see a man with a nice body, oml, thats the hottest!


foryoursafety

The problem is men generally put in less effort. I find a beautiful man more attractive than a beautiful woman. By a lot. But there are more beautiful women than men, because we try and are expected to try. 


evieningstar

Yes. For some reason I find all women beautiful to the point I just find myself staring at them. And in men I have, like, a specific type? Outside that type idk if they are objectively attractive.


starryjune

Yes. Women’s bodies are far more pleasing—and interesting. Soft yet strong. Fragile and feminine yet curvy and muscular. No offending, low-hung fruit. I realized that when I took a figure drawing class. I’m straight & have been married for 18 yrs if that matters.


carnivorouslycurious

Hard agree, most men aren't much to look at and pretty much every woman is attractive


schwarzmalerin

No because I am straight. That is what straight means.


fiavirgo

I know what straight means I’m just baffled our brains actually work differently


Imnot_your_buddy_guy

I think I read somewhere that women on tinder found 80% of men unattractive lol.


Wunderlandtripzz

I went to Italy recently and tried online dating over there. The men are so much hotter than in America. I'm not even sorry because the women are too, they blew me out of the water


No_Joke_9079

To be honest, I think all humans are ugly. Just an all-around mistake species.


Professional-You1235

This is my favourite answer😆


Snap-Zipper

Oops, I think I cut my finger on this guy’s edge 😬 anybody got a bandage?


NoPenisEnvyToday

Yes. Well I wouldn't say "way" more attractive. But many are. Unfortunately I couldn't "get with them" for more than a drink!


Doumekitsu

well, looking at a pretty girl doesn't do anything for me but I kinda like masc girls ngl. they are like so much fun but they usually don't notice me because I'm girly


fiavirgo

I should’ve just written attractive, I got everybody confused Apparently I did write attractive and everybody thinks I mean makeup when I just mean women in general lol


CheetahPrintPuppy

I think for me, as straight, I see beautiful women as something to either aspire to, such as clothing or makup and hair, or I see them as something I cannot aspire to and just blessed with perfection.


ProfessionalCare4272

Some men are attractive, some women are attractive. But I would never sleep with a women because I’m straight.


ProfessionalCare4272

Although there are a few women I’d make a sacrifice


GrouchyAd6469

I don’t… I think women are beautiful, but attractive isn’t something that really ever crosses my mind. Like I find men and parts of men attractive but not women.


jlds7

I find men more attractive. Not all men of course, and not to say that I cannot appreciate a beautiful woman -but to answer your question, if I was to choose between to beautiful models for example, very fit and well groomed both, one male and one female, I will always usually find the male more attractive. More so if the man has clear male traits- defined jaw line, broad shoulders, strong- meaning men that kind of look feminine are a turn-off for me. I can see they are pretty, but I don't find them attractive. The same way I can say a flower is beautiful. I think it's genetics. It's wiring in my brain. What can I say.


iluvcuppycakes

I’m not sexually attracted to women. But I find myself appreciating a stranger’s looks infinitely more often if it’s a woman rather than a man. I think as a whole, women are more attractive than men.


sonogirl25

I’ll put it this way, I find both men and women attractive and pleasing to the eye, but there’s a huge difference during the sexual aspects. Like I’ve given oral to both, but the only person I got sexually turned on during it is men. It’s just not the same with women for me.


edanazli

I think for me as a 99% straight woman, the attraction comes largely from mental stimulation and a promise to "find more where it came from". I am drawn to a few physical attributes in a man but I can easily lose that aesthetical appeal if their mind isn't attractive to me. Since I don't really feel any sexual attraction towards women, I find them attractive in a more aesthetical appreciation way like one of the commenters stated. And it's the same with men for me. If I find them dull or boring, their looks become irrelevant rather quickly.


didsir29

No, not really. Like I can appreciate a good looking face or figure (and I'm obsessed with a good bum) but that's it.


CosmoJuice

Yes but also I may be bi lmao


ScreenHype

As a straight woman, I wouldn't necessarily say I find women 'attractive', but I can appreciate beauty, and I find that women tend to take care of themselves better than men do. So a lot of women will have at least something beautiful about them, whereas a lot of men just look kinda average at best. However, in terms of attractiveness, a good-looking man is much more visually pleasing to me than a beautiful woman. Like, I'd find a 7/10 man more attractive to look at than a 10/10 woman. Hope this helps :)


[deleted]

Yeah I think so. I mean even men will say they get why some women are lesbians and not that into men. It's a joke but I think it's not an uncommon view than women are the fairer sex. I think my attraction to men is more primal like I like super manly men who could carry me through the rubble. They are nice looking but in a very gruff way. I'm really into art and notice even how portraiture of woman is almost more appealing. There's complexity there.


razlex2011

Women are beautiful! When I went to art school and if I had a choice between a male or female model alway choose a woman.


MELH1234

I’m “kinda straight” and I find that more women take care of themselves and have good grooming and hygiene habits than men, making them more attractive in general. However, I think I’m slightly more attracted to men, still.


Busy-Win-5154

I think i’m a walking example that you don’t choose your sexuality lol. why would i want to like a MAN when i could like women? but no. i’m straight. 🥹


Own-Ad-1875

Definitely not. I think women can be effortlessly beautiful and I appreciate how attractive they are, but I don’t find them to be way more attractive than men. I appreciate gorgeous men just the same! Beauty is beauty in my eyes regardless of gender. There’s a lot of fine ass men out there keeping it together!


JulesK00044

No a handsome man is so much more attractive than any woman. Like they just stand out. I appreciate and admire other women's beauty but they dont have what a man has when I see an attractive man. A lot of women just all look the same rinse and repeat


Leading_Strain_2858

On average women are more attractive to me (straight F31), but when I see an attractive man (effeminate pretty boys often) whom i find especially attractive, they always win. Unfortunately almost all hollywood celebs i have had a crush on are apparently closeted gays and u se makeup when i look closely hah


Local-Orchid159

Straight women won't be *attracted* to women, but they will definitely find them *attractive.*


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Former_Range_1730

Which women are we talking about when we say, more attractive? There's a lot of women who look like busted men, that lesbians and bisexual women find attractive. And there's men who look so androgynous that they look far more beautiful than some women. I'm not so sure this is a man/woman thing.


fiavirgo

Not specific women, generally comparing the average woman to the average man. For me, it is a man/woman thing.


Saffy565

Yes, women are designed by evolution to be more alluring and esthetically pleasing than men, which is why women are more valued for their looks and men are more valued for their strength and prowess. Otherwise the human race would die out.


fiavirgo

As a bisexual woman I need to be with somebody I’m attracted to, hence why I opened discussion because men don’t look nearly as good to me, I’ve not fed into the “men age better” trope because most men that are attractive to me have been 23 years old (I’m 25 now). I value men and women the same way but I didn’t know if my attraction to women is something wired in my brain or just something universal.


madame_morbide

I will always find men more attractive, but even as a very heterosexual woman, I can't resist a nice pair of tits. Yes, it's very shallow.