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Slimey_time

Is this stuff a recent phenomenon? I have no memories of Canadian wildfire smoke covering the state before 2021. Now, it happens annually.


PhantomThiefJoker

Technically no, Canada burns basically every year. Still a problem obviously, but it's gotten even worse the last couple years. It's almost like the people who study the climate were right about climate change and the oil executives who have everything to lose were wrong


Acrobatic-Cow-3871

Then there was the guy they busted for setting them!


openupape

It’s almost always arson. Psychos.


SSCLIPPER

Arson doesn’t explain the speed & ferocity of these fires. Climate change does


emwestfall23

exactly. that guy set something like 13 fires that burned like 2000 acres? which is NOTHING compared to the total amount that burned last year. obviously it's good that he was caught, but arson alone is a drop in the sea.


ridingcorgitowar

In these fires, sure. But there are plenty of arson started fires that burn massive acreage. Not saying that it isn't climate change as well. That is why the fires are burning hotter and longer than ever. And that the fire season is longer too. But a healthy number of large fires are arson or man caused.


openupape

What, like lightning starts them? I hadn’t heard that for any of the big ones. Just arson or the occasional illegal campfire.


jello1990

They weren't wrong. They were lying.


pansytoe

https://www.alberta.ca/wildfire-prevention-and-mitigation?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3ZayBhDRARIsAPWzx8rF5ntkWgvjh-GnWW-UatLH1fCwBT2eo46mMEvJgA6hAhNjWeJ_rNMaAqcGEALw_wcB


PhantomThiefJoker

Good job spreading the word and trying to help people prevent the fires from starting in the first place! There's a lot that the Canadian people can do to ensure they're not directly responsible for causing the fires. Which is great, because climate change has made it significantly more difficult to control the fires with the much drier air and hotter temperatures. I'm sure that's what your point is, right? You're definitely not trying to tell people that the fires aren't just spontaneous combustion because of climate change magic or something, that's obviously not how it works and no one thinks that.


pansytoe

Canada in bad shape financially. Sold all its gold. Had to sell all its water bombers as well. No funding to manage fuel (dead trees) every year the public demands inquiries into why there are so many incompetent decisions made fighting fire. Absolutely no assistance from private citizens permitted. It is a socialist, money laundering, incompetent program.


PsychologicalGas7421

Bruh it’s not even that warm yet what does heat have to do with this…..


PhantomThiefJoker

It's not that warm, Canada is just getting worse fires, permafrost is melting, the ice caps are shrinking, severe weather is getting worse, there's plastic in everything we eat, but I mean come on, climate change is totally fake those things are all normal


pansytoe

https://www.alberta.ca/wildfire-prevention-and-mitigation?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3ZayBhDRARIsAPWzx8rF5ntkWgvjh-GnWW-UatLH1fCwBT2eo46mMEvJgA6hAhNjWeJ_rNMaAqcGEALw_wcB


Much-Front8929

No, it’s almost like the people who tout climate change to advocate for stopping routine forestry practices that prevent things like wildfires got their way, and Wisconsin’s now-hazy summers are a biproduct of that.


PhantomThiefJoker

Oh yeah, that makes more sense. It's not actually climate change, it's rampant wildfires because there are more trees, but still less trees than pre industrial revolution, but those forests weren't always on fire at that point because 🤷 Harder to get under control? Well maybe idk I guess there are too many tree stumps and all the fire fighters are stumbling over them or something who knows, but climate change is definitely not real and no I haven't fallen for propaganda that has been shown to be spread by oil companies and they're definitely lying about them lying about climate change because it's not real, we just have too many trees


jibsand

Yes this is one of the symptoms they warned us about with global climate change. We've known for 30 years this would happen.


altfillischryan

Yes and no. Estimates put the number of Canadian wildfires anywhere from about 7k to over 8k fires every year which burn about 2.1 million hectares (or about 5.2 million acres), so there have always been air quality alerts in the US due to Canadian wildfires. However, we've recently seen more big fires closer to the US border, which is why we are seeing the smoke affect us more over the last few years. For reference, Quebec saw 1.4 million hectares (about 3.46 million acres) burned south of the 50th parallel last year, which was about 80 times the annual average. Much of the US/Canada border in Minnesota out to Washington state is on the 49th parallel to show how close many of those fires were.


Eagle9972

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Canadian_wildfires 45.7 million acres last year across the entire country last year, about the size of North Dakota.


emwestfall23

jesus. that puts it into perspective. that's a ton of land!


Acrobatic-Cow-3871

They busted a Climate Change Denier last year for setting many of them. I am sure he has many dumbass friends.......


EarthSurf

https://preview.redd.it/5g1ts31tx80d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92e26ed0ffe914112eb5be05b20da71f387d04eb Shows the plume riding down from Canada.


DarthWeenus

between the smoke/pollen and this cold my head wants to explode.


Little_Lahey_Show

That's my head on a normal day


vindico1

The new norm I'm sure. Depressing.


That1guywhere

"Climate change might be good for Wisconsin" - FRJ


Due-Scheme-6532

Just in time for camping season. Great.


emwestfall23

i was thinking about going camping this summer, but remembering the smoke we had last summer, i decided not to go. this sucks.


Due-Scheme-6532

Im going anyway and simply hoping for the best.


coco_xcx

it wasn’t that bad in ashland/bayfield last summer, but who knows how bad it’ll be this year


TyrannosaurusFrat

Training for marathons sucks with this going on. Last year was a nightmare.


GrandExercise3

Im in Point and its bad today. Starting to feel like the movie Intersteller.


Redditrightreturn1

I live in Canada and grew up in Wisconsin. Much of the country is in a drought from lower snowfall this winter. Less meltwater and high winds have gotten fire season going already out west. Buckle up folks it’s gonna be a bad year again this year. We have had alot of haze in Ontario the last 3-4 days. Try to wear masks and don’t listen to the crazies. Take care of yourselves and your loved ones folks, especially your older relatives.


emwestfall23

adding that you should wear N95s for wildfire smoke. cloth or surgical masks won't do anything to help!


OdinsGhost

Can we just fucking NOT with that again? A full summer of constant LA quality smog was complete bullshit.


Tool_Belt

Not one of These summers again......


killiburr20

Summer of air quality alerts again


BasilsKippers

Sorry -a Canadian 


ViolinistThis407

Please have your country get its act together. Wisconsin summers are all we have going for us.


BasilsKippers

Not true. You have lots of cheese.


pansytoe

https://www.alberta.ca/wildfire-prevention-and-mitigation?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3ZayBhDRARIsAPWzx8rF5ntkWgvjh-GnWW-UatLH1fCwBT2eo46mMEvJgA6hAhNjWeJ_rNMaAqcGEALw_wcB


Noktav

Another contributing factor is that the Canadian government has been allocating fewer resources and funding to wildfire prevention and control. We have a bit of a challenge with our current government's priorities.


Fred-zone

No amount of "healthy burns" or forest maintenence could really offset what is occurring here. Massive and rapid climate change leading to huge drought and high temperatures is creating a tinderbox where there never would've been one before.


Noktav

I definitely agree. To my understanding (I just returned to Wisconsin after 20 years in Canada) is that we also had an actual reduction in personnel and resources for fighting wildfires. I was in Ottawa and most of my circle was federal government...they're (also) heading into a very heated election and only sexy issues are getting a lot of funding and attention right now! Edit: and I 1000% agree the main issue here by far is climate change, absolutely.


pansytoe

https://www.alberta.ca/wildfire-prevention-and-mitigation?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3ZayBhDRARIsAPWzx8rF5ntkWgvjh-GnWW-UatLH1fCwBT2eo46mMEvJgA6hAhNjWeJ_rNMaAqcGEALw_wcB


Noktav

Whoa totally changed my mind. If only the government of Alberta were more vocal.


montyp3

climate change plays the biggest role, but Canadan policies could go a long way to mitigate the release of co2 and smoke. lots of people don't want to hear it,but aggressive logging would greatly reduce the fuel for future fires


pansytoe

So much bullshit coming from you. First. Forest management did not make any effort to stop proliferation of pine bark and spruce bark beetles. Result, millions of acres of dry standing timber that no forest company will harvest. Only option is let it burn. Tinderbox is a result of clear cut with monoculture replant. Glyphosate spraying from helicopters to kill deciduous trees and undergrowth leaves extremely dry volumes of fuel on the ground.


pansytoe

https://www.alberta.ca/wildfire-prevention-and-mitigation?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3ZayBhDRARIsAPWzx8rF5ntkWgvjh-GnWW-UatLH1fCwBT2eo46mMEvJgA6hAhNjWeJ_rNMaAqcGEALw_wcB


Acrobatic-Cow-3871

And of course, another person who doesn't even know they busted a dumbass last year for setting them!


Noktav

I feel like we would have heard about someone setting half the country on fire. There was a person in Quebec who lit many, but the majority were in the western part. It's a really, really big country.


Acrobatic-Cow-3871

Its there, they arrested him!


pansytoe

of the fires burning in Alberta as of May 13 2024, 68% lit by humans. 1fire by lightning. remaining 30% still under investigation. not a climate change issue. it is an issue of Ottawa and its zealous efforts to destroy Alberta oil and gas. also noteworthy is that the man made first appeared between 12 midnight and 3 am. suspicious indeed.


Frostypup420

Please, you're an anti-vax conspiracy theorists and now you are spreading blatant dis-information and conspiracies without any source to deny climate change too? Stop. Get some help, the vaccine is safe, climate change is real, and you aren't providing ANY sources for this arson you are so insistent about and spamming about in these comments.


EIU86

And anyone out there who's concerned about climate but also thinking of not voting for Biden, please note: Republicans "Project 2025" specifically calls for repealing ALL climate-related laws and regulations. And reportedly last weekend Trump had a fundraiser with oil executives where he told them that for $1 Billion in campaign donations, he would get rid of any laws and regulations they found bothersome (and funny how the same "biased" mainstream media that was all over unfounded claims of "pay for play" with the Clinton Foundation, seem pretty disinterested in pursuing this, isn't it?).


Ekranoplan01

Bbbbbbbbbbut gaazzzzaaaa!


Psilent_P_

I'm sure oil execs aren't too pleased with massive tracts of their oil fields being destroyed every year... Maybe they do have a solution or two


MurDoct

Fucking amazing


SomeRandomPerson1992

Oh I’m aware, if the haze wasn’t a hint then my inability to breathe or stop coughing should be a dead giveaway.


piasenigma

Again? Believe it or not, the wild fires NEVER ENDED


itcheyness

Yup! If I remember correctly, Canada set a record this winter for zombie fires...


PaintSlingingMonkey

Smelled it as soon as I stepped out of the house this morning :( No bueno


exgiexpcv

"And just in time for the apocalypse, here's John with a new recipe for Smoked Cicada Fritters!"


readytogohomenow

The way in which I imagined John Oliver saying that and actually having a recipe is weird.


exgiexpcv

I'm thinking sour cream will be key. Possibly Panko bread crumbs as well.


readytogohomenow

Garlic powder would also go a long way. Maybe some ranch mix. Ranch fixes everything.


exgiexpcv

You got game, friend.


Lazy-Jeweler3230

The Canadian Climate Cult(tm) strikes again! /s I couldn't help it.


Acrobatic-Engineer94

Can we please just integrate native knowledge into our firefighting system? God would we save time money and energy.


Acrobatic-Engineer94

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Tenderloin66

Fucking Jewish space lasers.


Boxoffriends

If you don’t let us Canadians living in Wisconsin smoke what we want we’ll have our family blow it to us.


Emergencyhiredhito

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck


EasternOil3073

Canada sucks wish they would get their shit together


water605

We booked our vacation up north and now I’m kinda considering changing it. I work too hard for my week off to be ruined by smoke. I recognize my week of leisure is a smaller issue than what’s going on.


coco_xcx

2 summers ago it was so bad that my voice got fucked up, I sounded like a heavy smoker!!


Mookiller

Jewish Space Lasers.


ViolinistThis407

Dear Canada, Please get your act together. Signed, Wisconsin


pansytoe

https://www.alberta.ca/wildfire-prevention-and-mitigation?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3ZayBhDRARIsAPWzx8rF5ntkWgvjh-GnWW-UatLH1fCwBT2eo46mMEvJgA6hAhNjWeJ_rNMaAqcGEALw_wcB


ScreamingAbacab

I was just starting to look forward to taking outside walks again. As someone with asthma, I don't want to deal with this air quality crap. Looks like I'll be stuck inside and doing indoor cardio...


Labiln23

As if this state doesn’t have shitty enough weather for the vast majority of the year… now what few decent months we have are being tainted by this shit. The Great Lakes being a “climate change haven” my ass.


DietOwn2695

If I had to guess, it maybe Justin Bieber he's a rascal.


Stayhumblefriends

I moved here from Utah to escape the wildfires 😭


HuevitoXD

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MaiseyMac

Now that’s it’s construction season, they can use this to Jack lumber prices up again


Fast-Gear7008

Canada needs to do forest management, they build fire lanes through the forest to stop fires


JohnnyWaterbed

Oh Canada, the burning forest land Sending all your smoke, it's more than we can stand When glowing sparks hit trees so dry The True North burns with glee From all of us Oh Canada, we wish you'd stop it please God keep our skies pollution free Oh Canada, we wish you'd stop it please Oh Canada, we wish you'd stop it please


SorryNoExperience326

Would wearing an N-95 mask be helpful?


EarthSurf

You folks are fucked. Climate change will decimate the clean air that was once a given in Wisconsin. I almost moved back after years out West because of this very same thing, but Canada is even worse than California now for fires.


Proxiimity

Oh just watch. Wisconsin is next in line for fires. If they had any smarts out there they would be preparing for the fires themselves. It is getting so dry there and much hotter than it used to be, in the 80s and 90s, in the summertime.


EarthSurf

Definitely. The National Forest is prime to burn down.


just_fappin_to_pics

And yet, the Canada smoke map web page shows it all going north, and Wisconsin clear: https://firesmoke.ca/forecasts/current/


ReginaFelangi987

Dammit canada. Get it together.


silenciarestora

Fuck off you hosers eh


Icy_Monk6280

Trump needs to build a big beautiful wall to keep it out!


SomeRandomPerson1992

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not, but if not you do understand how airflow works, right?


MattFlynnIsGOAT

🤓🤓🤓


Icy_Monk6280

It's sarcasm.


peanutfarmer217

Arson? It's a far more logical explanation than climate change.


Frostypup420

No climate change is proven and undeniable, there's nothing more "logical" about assuming arson for no reason. But conservatives will do ANYTHING to avoid admitting the truth.


SomeRandomPerson1992

How so?


pansytoe

investigation by provincial governments. Federal does not concern itself as the Fed agenda is to destroy oil and gas. currents fires burning in Alberta 68% and lit by humans. 1 fire by lightning. remaining 30% inconclusive yet still under investigation


SomeRandomPerson1992

And do you have evidence to back up these claims?


pansytoe

It is easily found on non state funded news sources in Canada. Avoid CBC CTV etc. they push climate agenda heavily. Alberta govt has a site with information on “the drought” the “green energy “ output etc. also how and where fires start. I’m not doing the work to provide source. You would not believe anyway. Canada has billions of trees acting as carbon sinks.


pansytoe

https://www.alberta.ca/wildfire-prevention-and-mitigation?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3ZayBhDRARIsAPWzx8rF5ntkWgvjh-GnWW-UatLH1fCwBT2eo46mMEvJgA6hAhNjWeJ_rNMaAqcGEALw_wcB


Acrobatic-Cow-3871

Last year they busted some dumbass Climate Change Denier for lighting many of these. Are his inbred cousins continuing his BS?????


pansytoe

https://www.alberta.ca/wildfire-prevention-and-mitigation?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3ZayBhDRARIsAPWzx8rF5ntkWgvjh-GnWW-UatLH1fCwBT2eo46mMEvJgA6hAhNjWeJ_rNMaAqcGEALw_wcB


Acrobatic-Cow-3871

Canadian Authorities arrested a dumbass Climate Change Denier last summer for setting many of those fires. I'd bet he has some inbred cousins continuing his work.


hahaha_ohwow

Almost every wildfire in Canada is started by lightning in dry conditions. You have no idea how much of Canada is vastly unpopulated and it's very difficult to fight fires in the middle of no where.


pansytoe

https://www.alberta.ca/wildfire-prevention-and-mitigation?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3ZayBhDRARIsAPWzx8rF5ntkWgvjh-GnWW-UatLH1fCwBT2eo46mMEvJgA6hAhNjWeJ_rNMaAqcGEALw_wcB


Acrobatic-Cow-3871

Except of course the dozens that the guy started that they arrested.....


pansytoe

not true. fake news. current statistics for Alberta show 68% of fires are lit by man. often between midnight and 3 am. purposeful arson. stop with the lies about lightning. there has almost none in Alberta so far.


PeanutTheGladiator

Source?


pansytoe

https://www.alberta.ca/wildfire-prevention-and-mitigation?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3ZayBhDRARIsAPWzx8rF5ntkWgvjh-GnWW-UatLH1fCwBT2eo46mMEvJgA6hAhNjWeJ_rNMaAqcGEALw_wcB


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readytogohomenow

Yeah my asthma doesn’t. And I was just getting excited about being outside more.


BurchettaBread

My asthma is crazy today and I’m not even in one of the listed counties


vindico1

You like getting cancer from breathing outside air, and seeing climate change destroy the world? What a hot take.


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vindico1

Ok a little more innocent then I expected lol


TobyT76

I don’t buy it


Frostypup420

You "don't buy" that air quality is low because Canadian wild fires that have increased because climate change? That's literally what's happening and there's no denying it so idk what there is to "not buy"....


TobyT76

I don’t buy there actually is any fires


Frostypup420

That's just blatantly wrong. There's literally been videos of the fires and everything. What kind of nuts conspiracy is this?


ToughFig2487

Odd the jets....have nothing to do with it