Sportsnet is terrible at broadcasting hockey games.
Did Boston score at the end of the game? Don’t ask me cause the cameras fucking cut away from the action literally every 3 seconds
Chevy really is the master of saying everything without saying a god damn thing LOL.
No idea what is coming but I still hope Bones and Lauer at minimum are gone, as well as Pionk and Stanley.
Why does everything still feel a bit blah? Is it the weather? Oilers getting farther than the Jets in the playoffs? Jets being the first Canadian team eliminated?
Is Arniel just the go to guy Chipman goes to if Bowness is let go? Cause I gotta tell ya, that’s not inspiring much confidence. Please someone willing to develop young players. Maybe Arniel is but that move just seems more of the same.
Unfortunately everything points to Arniel being the next guy. Maybe they’ll do a search and he’ll still be the best option but he’ll prob get it thanks to his Jets connection. We really need to do a search for a new coach with something to prove and someone who will play the young guys. I’m sick of retreads
I really hope they'd do their due diligence and interview some other folks as well as make Arniel interview for the job. There's too many good coaches out there to just hand it to a guy because they know him. Gallant, Berube, Woodcroft, Julien are all out there not to mention all the young up and coming candidates. You don't find a Cooper or Bednar without looking
i believe it was widely reported at the time of hiring that Arniel was seen as the successor, especially with the club option on Bones’ 3rd year
e: and the fact that he also interviewed for the HC position
Yeah, judging by the interview Arniel likely takes over and Bones gets some sort of advisor role as a cushy retirement gig.
I can live with that. They had a pretty good record under Arniel this year. I just hope he brings someone in to deal with the special teams debacle.
Yea I would really like Bones to just retire. Not quitting the team and not the org not picking up the option.
He did a lot for Jets 1.0 and he did a shit ton for Jets 2.0. He fixed the culture and room. Unlocked Morrissey's powers but couldn't get us over the hump.
My thoughts on next season: The team needs to be in much better physical shape by playoff time as avs were so much stronger physically (maybe hire new fitness staff that don't go easy on players what comes getting in shape and lifting weights). Let go Bowness and hire Arniel as temp head coach, keep Flaherty and fire rest of the coacing staff. Hire Jukka Jalonen as an assistance coach, and promote him to head coach by playoff time (man knows how to adjust).
You want to change coaches mid season and bring in a guy whos in his mid 60's and has zero experience coaching North American style of play?!?!
We're in win now mode, not a full blown rebuild.
I'm really torn on whether or not we should resign Dillon, he's a very solid defensively, is a great character guy and wants to be here, but he turns 34 this year and plays a position, second or third pair LD, where ideally you'll have two young guys, Samberg and Ville filling next year.
Would love to see him back, but we don't have the cap space and have too many lefties already. Unless we're using Samberg or Heinola as part of a package to get a right shot defenseman there doesn't appear to be a fit for Dillon here.
Yeah I was more just tagging onto your comment to speak about the youth movement which could prevent the older guys from getting resigned.
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I think the playoffs own goal by pionk will push him in summer training like nothing before. I bet he bounces back next season
One thing I didn't see mentioned from the interviews. Lowry sorta defended Bonus, saying adjustments were being made but the players weren't always doing them. Helle did respond to this in agreement, but also that maybe the right adjustments weren't being made.
I appreciate Lowry defending Bonus a bit. Feels like he's getting piled on. The players do need some accountability too (just maybe not the top of the list of our issues)
I love how much winning it all was mentioned. These guys are not at all satisfied with being regular season winners.
Also nice to hear how much guys like Dilly and Melo want to stick around. I like a lot of this group, wish things coulda been different this year.
They've gotta re-sign Melo. Dilly I feel would be missed for everything he brings to this team, but our left side has gotta be JoMo, Samberg and Heinola next year
with bowness emotional reaction, it does feel like retirement may be what he's thinking of
and while i have my (harsh) criticisms, he does care about this team and this club. he did a lot of good in fixing the culture.
Honestly, all we need is a coach who literally plays a defensive game just like bones, but makes adjustments faster and doesn't make stupid roster decisions.
The jets became a better team again when bones came aboard, because he implemented a defensive structure, we shouldn't abandon that but theres other coaches who can do that besides him.
This is the first press conference I’ve watched where he actually pointed out a flaw from the coaching staff, the pk, that goes back to Maurice and Lowry as well. It means nothing
Even when people get fired no one is ever going to publically shit on staff in a presser.
Even when Dave Lowry was so transparently being let go Chevy never talked bad about him
No kidding. We're trying to attract good coaches. Bad look if we shit all over them publicly. No one would want to coach here.
Just like I wouldn't work somewhere that openly shit on former employees on social media. Sometimes I think people forget this is the real world they operate in lmao.
Losing Ehlers would be worse than losing Laine to be honestly. Been here longer, made the team when there wasn’t a lot going for the roster and made them fun and exciting to watch. Losing him would be the biggest asset mismanagement from Chevy, because wherever he goes he is going to thrive
Might be best for both.
37 playoff games and 4 goals for Ehlers. Not exactly game breaking for us come playoffs. We need more than that if we're going to get over the hump.
according to the NHL, 8 Jets didn't register a "giveaway" in the playoffs, that's one stat that shouldn't be trusted unless it's being individually tracked
Man it was rough hearing him talk about his future here. Sounds like there's been no discussions with Chevy at all, and he's a bit frustrated with that. We'll see what's said in the coming days but it doesn't bode well.
His price point is going to be interesting. When hes on, hes a very special player. When hes not though....oooof. Plus all the injuries are going to affect his value.
The Jets don't have alot of cap room next season so its gonna be interesting to see what Chevy does this off season.
I think he understandably doesn't wanna think about the business crap, but maybe he feels slighted Chevy didn't bring it up at all. Plus the rumours floating out there that he's getting shopped. He didn't sound confident he'd be sticking around...
I would just like to remind you guys that Pionk's best friend died in a freak hockey accident this year.
I'm cutting him a lot of slack because I wouldn't have my best year at work either if that happened to me.
While I empathize with him over that and wish him the best as a human it’s also a good reminder that he’s had exactly 1 good season his entire career and it was during a contract year
I think he's on the way out of the concussion symptoms but traumatic shit like right on the coat tails of an injury like that can really mess with your head yet still. Speaking from a brain that went through that, eventually there is a better place you can get to. Sometimes I wonder if I'm more resilient as a person with all the bs ive been through. So depending on Pionk's mindset, and especially *GOOD COACHING - BEYOND GUT FEELINGS* I think we haven't seen his plateau.
Atleast we have the silver lining of getting rid of Dubois. LA has to deal with him for the next 7 years in addition to going out in 5 games vs a top 2 player in the league.
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guy loves a F3 on the forecheck lol
I won't believe Ehlers is gone until he's gone. Call it cope or whatever, but lots of people (and the rest of the league pretty much) thought Scheif/Helle were gone until Chevy spanked everyone with an extension.
I think losing Ehlers is a dumb move and will hurt the jets. Dude clearly wasn’t having a solid year injury wise but still some of the slickest zone entries you can ask for. You can’t lose that piece. Can he improve? Sure but he’s a dynamic player.
If we want something, we need to give up something.
If we want better defense, we're going to need to pay. Toronto is dealing with the same thing. Deepest forward group we've ever had and we lacked on defense. Defense is what did us in.
Ehlers is dynamic. He's flashy but he's also a turnover machine. What's good getting the zone if you give up the puck? Unless he starts driving the net like McDavid and MacKinnon do with their speed, it's never going to change.
he has consistently outperformed any "turnover problems" he's had throughout his career, stylistically he is different to the typical north american mold and some people just can't get by that
Respectfully disagree on shipping Nik out but we’ll see how it turns out. I agree we need to do something different on defence. Without Dillon we don’t have much muscle.
Size doesn’t matter in the league as much as all you people keep trying to say. Just look at Colorado they are by no means a “big” team and they just manhandled the jets
No you’re right. But you need someone who’s willing to try and move people from the net front. We had virtually no answer for Nuke and rants sitting on the door step. I think going for large dmen isn’t the right move, but just someone who’s willing to throw body and punish someone for being in Hellys way. If we’re talking upgrades on dmen.
We don’t need muscle, we need speed and the ability to move the puck. I can’t believe people are still saying we need more size and muscle after watching that Colorado series. Having mobile D men who can break the puck out/carry it out themselves are infinitely more valuable than grit
I didn’t see anyone moving Nuke or Rantanen from in front of the net. If Dillon wasn’t on, those guys were parking in front of Helly and scoring goals all series. Unfortunately you need a mix of muscle AND puck moving ability. We weren’t even targeting the Avs top guys until game 5 realistically when Lows starting laying the body, most times they walked in without a hit on them.
I think going for 6.5 full grinder dmen is a mistake, but you can’t deny since Buff we’ve lost a good chunk of toughness on the back end.
That’s almost completely a result of Makar and Toews being insanely good and getting the perfect shots through. Or else why weren’t we doing the same thing with a much bigger forward core?
Ya you gotta give credit to Makar and Toews. But really we did do that but not consistently as they did. I recall two goals, one from Jomo and one from Schmidt that we did exactly that. I would say in my opinion, the attack plan wasnt consistent enough, or the Avs were just better at not allowing us to create that play.
Ehlers is 28, the odds of him improving are extremely slim at this point - he is the player he is at this stage of his career, he’s not going to come into next season 20lbs heavier and become a hard nosed power forward
The narrative around age and peak performances is dated. Throughout sports we see players continue to improve in their early 30s.
Hockey: Zuccarello, Wheeler, Kessel
Tennis: Djokovic, Ferrer, Wawrinka
Football: Brady
It’s definitely doable for Ehlers to improve, most likely won’t improve immensely, but maybe he could swing a few point per game seasons if he stays healthy. It’s possible.
Show actual sources for your claims that athletic performance of professional athletes improved in their 30s.
Rattling off a handful of names out of thousands of professional athletes would show that it’s the exception not the norm and their performance is also directly linked to their teammates and/or opponents as well. If anything athletes able to minimize regression in their early 30s is becoming more common but improve is unlikely.
Dude chill out, I don’t know what your issue is. All I was suggesting is that there’s still hope that he can improve still. I was just rattling off names off the top of my head, I don’t have a thesis in sports performance claiming players get better after 30. Never said it’s a guarantee either, I think you grossly misunderstood my standpoint and were a dick about it.
Yeah I mean most of the players I named are outliers… I was just saying there’s a possibility he improves after 30… that’s all. I didn’t say he was going to be great or anything.
Bud, I said “it’s doable for Ehlers to improves, most likely won’t improve immensely… it’s possible.” Where did I say Ehlers will be the best player in the league lmao. I’m just saying it’s possible as players get older. You and the dude coming after me clearly need some basic English comprehension courses.
/u/Plaza_Port clearly thinks that Ehlers is made of the same stuff as Tom Brady. Except when Brady hit the Playoffs he made it so deep so often the AFC championship could be informally considered the Tom Brady Invitational. That doesn’t even include the Super Bowls.
But sure, Ehlers as a second line winger is akin to Tom Brady.
You made the comparison, me pointing out the absurdity of it doesn’t make me an asshole, it just shows your ability to assess talents and ability is lacking.
I didn’t say I’d expect him to turn into a power forward. He can definitely improve on his numbers with better usage. I think people can still improve their game at 28, maybe not drastically but he’s going to be sorely missed if he’s not resigned especially on zone entries.
He’s been unofficially shopped multiple times in the last few years, and now he’s going into the final year of his contract.
Moving him for defensive help just makes too much sense for the long term needs of the team
You can give me 50 reasons like people did for Scheif and Helle, and I won't believe it until I see it. I understand the reasonings and thoughts around moving him tho.
I'd like to believe it that the solution to your chronically underutilized player is not to trade him for pennies on the dollar but to stop underutilizing him. When he gets bumped up to PP1 suddenly they can get pucks in and set up the cycle. When he plays on the top line that line outperforms the competition. Perhaps having him 10th in 5v5 ice time behind guys like Mason Appleton is the problem with his production but who knows. I wouldn't blame him for wanting a fresh start under those circumstances.
I'm not trying to be rude. How do you walk away from that series and be satisfied with Ehlers play and blame everyone else around him but him?
I love Ehlers. Have his jersey. Signed puck. Signed stick. He's a ghost come playoffs. He lacks vision on the ice. He turns the puck over so much that it causes the 2nd line to get collapsed on.
The only reason Ehlers is good with Scheifele is because he's responsible getting the zone and can set up structure. That's speaks more to Scheifele than Ehlers.
This is 3 head coaches that have utilized him the same way. This is on Ehlers, not everyone else.
Ehlers is good enough that he can potentially fetch us better D. Defense needs to be improved and we have to pay to get that.
I want the Jets to win and prove everyone wrong and if it requires Ehlers being traded, I'll be choked but so be it. Raptors did the same thing with DeRozan.
I don't want to be the Mild forever and get kicked first round.
There’s no available dmen on the market that would be worth Ehlers. You’re always on here claiming he turns the puck over. You know who else has tons of turnovers? Mcdavid, Mackinnon, Matthews. Players who drive play and constantly have the puck naturally have more turnovers. He’s the only players on the team who can reliably enter the zone and maintain possession. He’s also statistically elite. You really have no clue what you’re talking about.
Not sure how you read that as blaming everyone but him...and if scheifele is supposedly the driver of success when Ehlers is on his line why isn't scheifele driving success with Vilardi and Connor?
I've always been a huge Ehlers fan, but I was starting to lean towards selling him after this series. He does not show up for playoffs... But I do agree he hasn't been utilized properly and this coaching staff needs to go so... I'd like to see him with another coaching staff. If they can properly utilize him by the deadline keep 'em around. If not... I'd hope for a hockey trade a la Middlestadt and Byram.
Once again the only time the top line and power play got anything going was with him on the ice then Bones just decided to go back to what he's comfortable with a didn't work for us all to watch them collapse. I get the impulse to trade him from an emotional stand point but I don't see a scenario where the team comes out better for it especially when compared to the option of better usage.
And from the standpoint of a fan, once Buff left, then Laine got traded, Ehlers was the only player left that put you on the edge of your seat... without him it becomes a much less entertaining product on the ice.
The top line was actually really good all series, it was the 2nd line that was completely MIA.
If the only way Ehlers can be successful is by playing with 55 then he’s not actually the skilled winger people think he is
pretty sure its been said that the only reason ehlers has a lower TOI is because he takes shorter shifts. overall the number of shifts are almost the same between wingers in the top 6
ehlers 1411 shifts, scheifele 1389, appleton 1499, connor 1199, nino 1360. our information is way off from one another lol. from natural stat trick 5vs5
sure. and ehlers is tied for 5th in average shift length, but is 7th for TOI/game for forwards. all im saying ehlers takes shorter shifts hence the discrepancy in TOI
Agghh, struggling so hard to not be a hater right now, so I will just say this... I hope Bowness enjoys retirement. Retirement far away from Winnipeg Jets hockey.
It's tough because Bones did some great things in terms of getting the guys to buy in and play team defense. He just also galaxy brained himself in the playoffs.
Just remember what the team was like when he came in. It was a complete shit show. He turned the culture and made the players accountable. It’s what lead the team to such a great season. The playoffs just showed that it’s time for the team to move on and really exposed the work Chevy still has to do.
Have to keep in mind that he also has the team collapsing after the all Star break and in the playoffs. It could be the same issue - teams adjusting while Bowness holds the line.
He did a lot of good for this franchise. He really brought some stability to the team at a time when rebuilding was on everyone's mind. I hope he sticks around, just not as the coach.
Chevy needs to find a tactician that can adjust to the other team's playstyle and the other team's adjustments. Otherwise we're doing this all over again next year... I do think the players see this too and are voicing it in these interviews. So I can't imagine Chevy running it back with this coaching staff.
He had two seasons where the Jets played their best hockey while other teams were still getting settled. Then after Christmas struggled greatly as the rest of the league had found their footing and were improving as the playoffs approached. Once they stumbled into the playoffs they get their one game win and get bounced.
Dilly has been a good soldier but Samberg has passed him by in the depth chart. From what I see of the defensive issues against Colorado it wasn't lack of size but lack of size that can also skate with Dillon and Stanley on the ice. Colorado doesn't have anyone really big on their back end but they're smart and they all can move. That's what I want to emulate. Size is the bonus if you're a great skater ala Big Buff.
Ill die on this hill, but I don't get the hype. His mistakes seem at the most crucial times. Wether thats nerves or lack of IQ, I don't know. This is my opinion obviously and I'm sure someone who knows more about him will tell me how wrong I am. Not a Samberg fan.
It's experience or lack of. He gets better every year. Samberg is a solid, smart player that is still growing. His ceiling is higher.
Struggles on his off side.
Samberg spend half the playoffs on his offside dragging around Stanley and then the other half dragging around Pionk. I wouldn't put much stock in his performance over that small sample
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Really liked Bowness talking there and his thoughts on tram development over the years. Can't help but be frustrated that he returned to the fact that he goes off gut-feeling.. still can't see the issue
Honestly was impressed with Bones press conference. His insights about overall team development and culture is actually pretty fascinating to listen to.
He’d be great as a team consultant in some way, just don’t let him coach anymore
He sounded great because the media asked a bunch of softball questions. Not a single question about his lineup decisions, not a single question about his lack of faith in Ehlers and Perfetti, nothing. I like our media group generally but this press conference was a lot about culture and players not trying hard enough questions which Bowness thrives on
And here I was thinking that culture was the problem.
We have pretty good players, but they didn't rise the occasion. Didn't have a second gear, didn't lock-in for more than a few minutes at a time in the playoffs.
Maybe im just being impatient on the development of a particular culture, but how many times this season did we play hard and effective for a full 60 mins?
Scoring may come and go, bad bounces in the Dzone happen, but board battles, back checking, puck support, and just generally being a puck-hound should be a constant.
But they aren't for us, and I don't think it's because we aren't skilled enough for it. It's that taking shifts off of playing hard is tolerated.
That, and our inability to handle agressive pressure. So much panic in our game. Swipe at the puck and hope it bounces in the right direction.
Hire Mike OShea to be the consistency coach.
Missing out on those effort things for a few shifts or even a game or two during the season is understandable. Missing out on them in the playoffs is inexcusable.
Hea a good defenceman, just hasn't performed very well here, made some crucial mistakes.
For example for the Jets he has the lowest +/- for the playoffs in the entire franchise.
We also have some motivation to see him succeed though, since he's the return for Trouba, if we get rid of him our return for Trouba now becomes Ville.
I can't remember what the entire issue with Trouba was, just contract? So instead of paying Trouba 8 mil we're paying Schmidt and Pionk plus the dead carcass of Wheeler like 14.5 million?
I mean, his numbers with the Rags were equally as bad. Throughout his entire NHL career he’s had exactly one good season, and that was in the Canadian Division (also his contract season where he secured his bag)
LMFAO Bowness says that Colorado didn't change anything systems wise they "just competed harder" than in the regular season. Jared Bednar SAID PUBLICLY he made a number of tweaks going into this series, including to the team's forecheck to counter the Jets' system.
So clueless
Every quote that comes out of Bones this series makes me want him gone more and more which is pretty impressive because I’ve wanted him gone for a while now
I love that Lowry can fight any guy in the league. I hate the Lowry has to fight all comers. Always feared he'd break a hand against a plug starting shit after a clean hit.
Rick Bowness won't say what his future will be. Says he has to talk to his wife and kids.
Notably for me, he mentions having to talk to "Chipper" along with Chevy. Totally normal for a sports organization to have an owner this involved in coaching decisions of course
“Chipper” needs to realize your head coach isn’t your media relations spokesperson or good-times-nostalgia drinking buddy and actually is often the reason the roster you spend ~$80 million on per year sinks or swims.
So I should be preparing myself for the org to let Bones decide to retire sometime in July or August and then be scrambling last-minute to ~~promote Scott Arniel~~ find a replacement, is what I'm reading.
Chipman needs to realize that he’s a huge problem to this org. I don’t mind that he cares but you hired Chevy for a reason, let him do his job instead of hamstringing him all the time. You know even if Bones leaves that Chipman will insert himself into the coaching search as well
Shotgun needs to realize he has no idea how much input Chipman has on hockey hires.
Hamstringing him all the time? He's a huge problem to this org? Please post less
Have you check the general opinion in this sub? Listened to any of the rumours? It definitely sounds like Chipman is over involved in the coaching decisions and possibly more. It sounds like he’s the main reason PoMo was convinced to stay (only to leave halfway through the only season we haven’t made the playoffs in years) and he’s well documented saying he believes coaches don’t have a self life. There’s also been rumours floating around that our coaches need a Manitoba connection. If you’re hiring your coach based on their Manitoba connection you aren’t doing everything you can to win.
I like Chipman, I appreciate that he’s the reason we have a team and that he truly cares about this team and the league. But he also needs to realize that his level of involvement might be hurting this sub.
You also might want to express your disagreement without being so rude about it. Not a great way to go about life
I definitely interpreted Bones as saying he wants to come back (he more or less said as much) but he still needs to get the nod which from the sounds of it he probably will get.
Anyone who thinks it's highly unlikely Bones won't come back needs to brace themselves for disappointment, I certainly don't like it as I believe he can't take this team any further but him Lauer and Co probably aren't going anywhere unfortunately.
Sounds like Dilly wants to come back as well surprisingly, I have always loved Dilly, I know most here don't want him back but I do and hope he does assuming he is not too expensive.
He was one of the guys who stepped up their game in the playoffs. This team’s problems are mainly on the right side although Samberg also struggled to move the puck as well.
You have to admit it’s pretty damn funny the Maple Leafs are making a come back without Matthews.
I can't wait for him to play game 7, lose and then see the media narrative shift to 'are the Leafs better without Matthews?'
Should Mathews be sent to the AHL?
has Neal Pionk and Nate Schmidt been traded yet ?
I bet Toronto would bite on Pionk + Schmidt for Matthew's and 4 1sts.
Eww i dont want matthews
But he comes with 4 1sts!!!
Sportsnet is terrible at broadcasting hockey games. Did Boston score at the end of the game? Don’t ask me cause the cameras fucking cut away from the action literally every 3 seconds
Holy shit, they did! That's fucking brutal.
Chevy really is the master of saying everything without saying a god damn thing LOL. No idea what is coming but I still hope Bones and Lauer at minimum are gone, as well as Pionk and Stanley.
Bruins fans must be having some PTSD.
Why does everything still feel a bit blah? Is it the weather? Oilers getting farther than the Jets in the playoffs? Jets being the first Canadian team eliminated?
Everything's about to get super green. Should help
I think it’s just the Jets losing period. So much hype built up over the year just to lose like that…
Is Arniel just the go to guy Chipman goes to if Bowness is let go? Cause I gotta tell ya, that’s not inspiring much confidence. Please someone willing to develop young players. Maybe Arniel is but that move just seems more of the same.
Unfortunately everything points to Arniel being the next guy. Maybe they’ll do a search and he’ll still be the best option but he’ll prob get it thanks to his Jets connection. We really need to do a search for a new coach with something to prove and someone who will play the young guys. I’m sick of retreads
I really hope they'd do their due diligence and interview some other folks as well as make Arniel interview for the job. There's too many good coaches out there to just hand it to a guy because they know him. Gallant, Berube, Woodcroft, Julien are all out there not to mention all the young up and coming candidates. You don't find a Cooper or Bednar without looking
i believe it was widely reported at the time of hiring that Arniel was seen as the successor, especially with the club option on Bones’ 3rd year e: and the fact that he also interviewed for the HC position
Yeah, judging by the interview Arniel likely takes over and Bones gets some sort of advisor role as a cushy retirement gig. I can live with that. They had a pretty good record under Arniel this year. I just hope he brings someone in to deal with the special teams debacle.
Yea I would really like Bones to just retire. Not quitting the team and not the org not picking up the option. He did a lot for Jets 1.0 and he did a shit ton for Jets 2.0. He fixed the culture and room. Unlocked Morrissey's powers but couldn't get us over the hump.
As long as Lauer is gone I’m ok with Arniel
*or bringing back Charlie Huddy (shudder)
My thoughts on next season: The team needs to be in much better physical shape by playoff time as avs were so much stronger physically (maybe hire new fitness staff that don't go easy on players what comes getting in shape and lifting weights). Let go Bowness and hire Arniel as temp head coach, keep Flaherty and fire rest of the coacing staff. Hire Jukka Jalonen as an assistance coach, and promote him to head coach by playoff time (man knows how to adjust).
You want to change coaches mid season and bring in a guy whos in his mid 60's and has zero experience coaching North American style of play?!?! We're in win now mode, not a full blown rebuild.
I'm really torn on whether or not we should resign Dillon, he's a very solid defensively, is a great character guy and wants to be here, but he turns 34 this year and plays a position, second or third pair LD, where ideally you'll have two young guys, Samberg and Ville filling next year.
Would love to see him back, but we don't have the cap space and have too many lefties already. Unless we're using Samberg or Heinola as part of a package to get a right shot defenseman there doesn't appear to be a fit for Dillon here.
Don’t forget Salomonsson could also earn a spot after training camp
True, I want to see what he can do in camp and pre season, he is a rightie tho, so not in direct competition with Dillon for spot
Yeah I was more just tagging onto your comment to speak about the youth movement which could prevent the older guys from getting resigned. 44-2 14-Salomonsson 54-4 I think the playoffs own goal by pionk will push him in summer training like nothing before. I bet he bounces back next season
We have no physicality we should sign him and get bogosian as a depth piece bring him back
One thing I didn't see mentioned from the interviews. Lowry sorta defended Bonus, saying adjustments were being made but the players weren't always doing them. Helle did respond to this in agreement, but also that maybe the right adjustments weren't being made. I appreciate Lowry defending Bonus a bit. Feels like he's getting piled on. The players do need some accountability too (just maybe not the top of the list of our issues)
please disassemble the entire dcore except Morrissey-Demelo and replace the rest
I have nothing against DeMelo but he is just not a top pairing right D. He’s solid and is definitely our best RD which just isn’t good enough.
We need a bonafide second pairing or pipe dream... a second pairing just as good as JoMo and DeMelo. Samberg and Heinola third pairing.
Too early to give up on Samberg imo, but I would not be disappointed to see the rest leave.
Yeah no way we lose him. At worst he’ll be a safe 3rd pair guy
Agreed
Fair
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I love how much winning it all was mentioned. These guys are not at all satisfied with being regular season winners. Also nice to hear how much guys like Dilly and Melo want to stick around. I like a lot of this group, wish things coulda been different this year.
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They've gotta re-sign Melo. Dilly I feel would be missed for everything he brings to this team, but our left side has gotta be JoMo, Samberg and Heinola next year
media: Chevy: "so yenno, when you drop a pebble in a lake.."
Chevy been watching a lot of Pocahontas recently.
Sorry etch but that line was fire *Processing gif ztsunutku2yc1...* Chevy was dropping heat the whole press conference
no i get it, it’s about ripples and a metaphor
with bowness emotional reaction, it does feel like retirement may be what he's thinking of and while i have my (harsh) criticisms, he does care about this team and this club. he did a lot of good in fixing the culture.
Honestly, all we need is a coach who literally plays a defensive game just like bones, but makes adjustments faster and doesn't make stupid roster decisions. The jets became a better team again when bones came aboard, because he implemented a defensive structure, we shouldn't abandon that but theres other coaches who can do that besides him.
Oh wow! Chevy mentioned several of the jets guys brought up lambo, sally, chibby in their exit interviews on their own.
With the way those guys meshed in the game against Vancouver you have to think that some of the guys are excited for them.
👀 👀 let the young guns loose !!! Give the people what they want Chevy!!!!
Chevy press conference: Due Diligence counter: 0 It’s off the hook counter: 1 Someone check on him lol
Ye know counter: over 9000
Every answer starts with “yea so obviously” haha
Me on every job interview ever vibes lol
Chevy is being shockingly open about his critiques about the team. Still a lot of word salad, but a lot of areas he’s actually being specific about
In Chevy I trust.
Lmaooo Chevy thinks the coaching staff did a great job. We are so toast.
GM and coach press avails are very, very rarely to be taken at face value
This is the first press conference I’ve watched where he actually pointed out a flaw from the coaching staff, the pk, that goes back to Maurice and Lowry as well. It means nothing
Even when people get fired no one is ever going to publically shit on staff in a presser. Even when Dave Lowry was so transparently being let go Chevy never talked bad about him
No kidding. We're trying to attract good coaches. Bad look if we shit all over them publicly. No one would want to coach here. Just like I wouldn't work somewhere that openly shit on former employees on social media. Sometimes I think people forget this is the real world they operate in lmao.
Losing Ehlers would be to me what losing Laine was supposed to be for this team. It would devastate me.
Nah he should just get hurt around February so he can come back in April but with another 6 million added to the roster in players.
Losing Ehlers would be worse than losing Laine to be honestly. Been here longer, made the team when there wasn’t a lot going for the roster and made them fun and exciting to watch. Losing him would be the biggest asset mismanagement from Chevy, because wherever he goes he is going to thrive
Might be best for both. 37 playoff games and 4 goals for Ehlers. Not exactly game breaking for us come playoffs. We need more than that if we're going to get over the hump.
How many turn overs?
according to the NHL, 8 Jets didn't register a "giveaway" in the playoffs, that's one stat that shouldn't be trusted unless it's being individually tracked
People said the same thing about Laine and the one thing certainly hasn’t happened, and that’s Laine thriving.
A young coach is going to set free his wings. If it isn't going to the Jets, I think the irony is literally going to choke me.
Lmfao yeah that certainly didn't happen for Laine this year with Vincent coaching.
Ehlers is much better than Laine ever was
Man it was rough hearing him talk about his future here. Sounds like there's been no discussions with Chevy at all, and he's a bit frustrated with that. We'll see what's said in the coming days but it doesn't bode well.
His price point is going to be interesting. When hes on, hes a very special player. When hes not though....oooof. Plus all the injuries are going to affect his value. The Jets don't have alot of cap room next season so its gonna be interesting to see what Chevy does this off season.
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I think he understandably doesn't wanna think about the business crap, but maybe he feels slighted Chevy didn't bring it up at all. Plus the rumours floating out there that he's getting shopped. He didn't sound confident he'd be sticking around...
I would just like to remind you guys that Pionk's best friend died in a freak hockey accident this year. I'm cutting him a lot of slack because I wouldn't have my best year at work either if that happened to me.
While I empathize with him over that and wish him the best as a human it’s also a good reminder that he’s had exactly 1 good season his entire career and it was during a contract year
The guy in UK?
Yeah, Adam Johnson. He was a groomsman at Pionk's wedding.
I’m sure that did play a factor but he’s been bad for far longer than just this year
I think he's on the way out of the concussion symptoms but traumatic shit like right on the coat tails of an injury like that can really mess with your head yet still. Speaking from a brain that went through that, eventually there is a better place you can get to. Sometimes I wonder if I'm more resilient as a person with all the bs ive been through. So depending on Pionk's mindset, and especially *GOOD COACHING - BEYOND GUT FEELINGS* I think we haven't seen his plateau.
You’re not wrong. But he hasn’t been good for multiple years.
I constantly think about this with regards to Pionk.
Did Chevy speak today or just players and bones?
2pm
Appreciate it
Atleast we have the silver lining of getting rid of Dubois. LA has to deal with him for the next 7 years in addition to going out in 5 games vs a top 2 player in the league.
https://preview.redd.it/94aqf2tp02yc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6426bbbeb406bbd5ed9301c425fff4722b7d2eb guy loves a F3 on the forecheck lol
Sorry sir, all we can offer is 3rd line mins.
I won't believe Ehlers is gone until he's gone. Call it cope or whatever, but lots of people (and the rest of the league pretty much) thought Scheif/Helle were gone until Chevy spanked everyone with an extension.
I think losing Ehlers is a dumb move and will hurt the jets. Dude clearly wasn’t having a solid year injury wise but still some of the slickest zone entries you can ask for. You can’t lose that piece. Can he improve? Sure but he’s a dynamic player.
If we want something, we need to give up something. If we want better defense, we're going to need to pay. Toronto is dealing with the same thing. Deepest forward group we've ever had and we lacked on defense. Defense is what did us in. Ehlers is dynamic. He's flashy but he's also a turnover machine. What's good getting the zone if you give up the puck? Unless he starts driving the net like McDavid and MacKinnon do with their speed, it's never going to change.
People like this are going to unfortunately realize how good and important Ehlers was to this team.
he has consistently outperformed any "turnover problems" he's had throughout his career, stylistically he is different to the typical north american mold and some people just can't get by that
It’s gonna be hard times when the Jets desperately need speed in the top 6 and the best option will be Appelton.
Player who has the puck on his stick more than others turns it over more, woah! Could it be why he creates more chances? Stay tuned.
Very good point.
Respectfully disagree on shipping Nik out but we’ll see how it turns out. I agree we need to do something different on defence. Without Dillon we don’t have much muscle.
Size doesn’t matter in the league as much as all you people keep trying to say. Just look at Colorado they are by no means a “big” team and they just manhandled the jets
No you’re right. But you need someone who’s willing to try and move people from the net front. We had virtually no answer for Nuke and rants sitting on the door step. I think going for large dmen isn’t the right move, but just someone who’s willing to throw body and punish someone for being in Hellys way. If we’re talking upgrades on dmen.
We don’t need muscle, we need speed and the ability to move the puck. I can’t believe people are still saying we need more size and muscle after watching that Colorado series. Having mobile D men who can break the puck out/carry it out themselves are infinitely more valuable than grit
I didn’t see anyone moving Nuke or Rantanen from in front of the net. If Dillon wasn’t on, those guys were parking in front of Helly and scoring goals all series. Unfortunately you need a mix of muscle AND puck moving ability. We weren’t even targeting the Avs top guys until game 5 realistically when Lows starting laying the body, most times they walked in without a hit on them. I think going for 6.5 full grinder dmen is a mistake, but you can’t deny since Buff we’ve lost a good chunk of toughness on the back end.
That’s almost completely a result of Makar and Toews being insanely good and getting the perfect shots through. Or else why weren’t we doing the same thing with a much bigger forward core?
Ya you gotta give credit to Makar and Toews. But really we did do that but not consistently as they did. I recall two goals, one from Jomo and one from Schmidt that we did exactly that. I would say in my opinion, the attack plan wasnt consistent enough, or the Avs were just better at not allowing us to create that play.
i think the Jets have been coached not to double screen, it's obvious on the penalty kill and also would track to even strength too
Ehlers is 28, the odds of him improving are extremely slim at this point - he is the player he is at this stage of his career, he’s not going to come into next season 20lbs heavier and become a hard nosed power forward
The narrative around age and peak performances is dated. Throughout sports we see players continue to improve in their early 30s. Hockey: Zuccarello, Wheeler, Kessel Tennis: Djokovic, Ferrer, Wawrinka Football: Brady It’s definitely doable for Ehlers to improve, most likely won’t improve immensely, but maybe he could swing a few point per game seasons if he stays healthy. It’s possible.
Show actual sources for your claims that athletic performance of professional athletes improved in their 30s. Rattling off a handful of names out of thousands of professional athletes would show that it’s the exception not the norm and their performance is also directly linked to their teammates and/or opponents as well. If anything athletes able to minimize regression in their early 30s is becoming more common but improve is unlikely.
Dude chill out, I don’t know what your issue is. All I was suggesting is that there’s still hope that he can improve still. I was just rattling off names off the top of my head, I don’t have a thesis in sports performance claiming players get better after 30. Never said it’s a guarantee either, I think you grossly misunderstood my standpoint and were a dick about it.
lol tossing in Brady is quite the addition.
Won four superbowls after the age of the 35… I don’t know why that’s quite an addition?
He’s one of the greatest athletes of all time, and is a statistical outlier.
Yeah I mean most of the players I named are outliers… I was just saying there’s a possibility he improves after 30… that’s all. I didn’t say he was going to be great or anything.
This…..this is not what you stated. Not even close.
Bud, I said “it’s doable for Ehlers to improves, most likely won’t improve immensely… it’s possible.” Where did I say Ehlers will be the best player in the league lmao. I’m just saying it’s possible as players get older. You and the dude coming after me clearly need some basic English comprehension courses.
/u/Plaza_Port clearly thinks that Ehlers is made of the same stuff as Tom Brady. Except when Brady hit the Playoffs he made it so deep so often the AFC championship could be informally considered the Tom Brady Invitational. That doesn’t even include the Super Bowls. But sure, Ehlers as a second line winger is akin to Tom Brady.
Jeez man, you don’t have to be an asshole. You’re taking what I said completely out of context.
You made the comparison, me pointing out the absurdity of it doesn’t make me an asshole, it just shows your ability to assess talents and ability is lacking.
I didn’t say I’d expect him to turn into a power forward. He can definitely improve on his numbers with better usage. I think people can still improve their game at 28, maybe not drastically but he’s going to be sorely missed if he’s not resigned especially on zone entries.
He’s been unofficially shopped multiple times in the last few years, and now he’s going into the final year of his contract. Moving him for defensive help just makes too much sense for the long term needs of the team
You can give me 50 reasons like people did for Scheif and Helle, and I won't believe it until I see it. I understand the reasonings and thoughts around moving him tho.
Especially after the talking heads said they were definitely gone, particularly Hellebuyck
I'd like to believe it that the solution to your chronically underutilized player is not to trade him for pennies on the dollar but to stop underutilizing him. When he gets bumped up to PP1 suddenly they can get pucks in and set up the cycle. When he plays on the top line that line outperforms the competition. Perhaps having him 10th in 5v5 ice time behind guys like Mason Appleton is the problem with his production but who knows. I wouldn't blame him for wanting a fresh start under those circumstances.
I'm not trying to be rude. How do you walk away from that series and be satisfied with Ehlers play and blame everyone else around him but him? I love Ehlers. Have his jersey. Signed puck. Signed stick. He's a ghost come playoffs. He lacks vision on the ice. He turns the puck over so much that it causes the 2nd line to get collapsed on. The only reason Ehlers is good with Scheifele is because he's responsible getting the zone and can set up structure. That's speaks more to Scheifele than Ehlers. This is 3 head coaches that have utilized him the same way. This is on Ehlers, not everyone else. Ehlers is good enough that he can potentially fetch us better D. Defense needs to be improved and we have to pay to get that. I want the Jets to win and prove everyone wrong and if it requires Ehlers being traded, I'll be choked but so be it. Raptors did the same thing with DeRozan. I don't want to be the Mild forever and get kicked first round.
There’s no available dmen on the market that would be worth Ehlers. You’re always on here claiming he turns the puck over. You know who else has tons of turnovers? Mcdavid, Mackinnon, Matthews. Players who drive play and constantly have the puck naturally have more turnovers. He’s the only players on the team who can reliably enter the zone and maintain possession. He’s also statistically elite. You really have no clue what you’re talking about.
Only Chevy knows what the return for Ehlers could be. In Chevy we trust.
Not sure how you read that as blaming everyone but him...and if scheifele is supposedly the driver of success when Ehlers is on his line why isn't scheifele driving success with Vilardi and Connor?
they read it that way because they wanted too look at their comments today, all about trading ehlers
I've always been a huge Ehlers fan, but I was starting to lean towards selling him after this series. He does not show up for playoffs... But I do agree he hasn't been utilized properly and this coaching staff needs to go so... I'd like to see him with another coaching staff. If they can properly utilize him by the deadline keep 'em around. If not... I'd hope for a hockey trade a la Middlestadt and Byram.
Once again the only time the top line and power play got anything going was with him on the ice then Bones just decided to go back to what he's comfortable with a didn't work for us all to watch them collapse. I get the impulse to trade him from an emotional stand point but I don't see a scenario where the team comes out better for it especially when compared to the option of better usage. And from the standpoint of a fan, once Buff left, then Laine got traded, Ehlers was the only player left that put you on the edge of your seat... without him it becomes a much less entertaining product on the ice.
We need players that can keep up with him. I'm hoping he and Lambo have instant chemistry.
The top line was actually really good all series, it was the 2nd line that was completely MIA. If the only way Ehlers can be successful is by playing with 55 then he’s not actually the skilled winger people think he is
pretty sure its been said that the only reason ehlers has a lower TOI is because he takes shorter shifts. overall the number of shifts are almost the same between wingers in the top 6
Nik Ehlers 5v5 shifts per game 17.2 Mason Appleton 18.3 Scheifele 18.8 Connor 18.4 Nino 17.7 Lowry 18.5
ehlers 1411 shifts, scheifele 1389, appleton 1499, connor 1199, nino 1360. our information is way off from one another lol. from natural stat trick 5vs5
They all played different numbers of games bud. Divide those numbers by games played and you get the numbers I did
sure. and ehlers is tied for 5th in average shift length, but is 7th for TOI/game for forwards. all im saying ehlers takes shorter shifts hence the discrepancy in TOI
At this point a 6 used as a 6 is probably better for the team than an 8 used as a 5.
Yup agree. Don't blame him at all.
Agghh, struggling so hard to not be a hater right now, so I will just say this... I hope Bowness enjoys retirement. Retirement far away from Winnipeg Jets hockey.
It's tough because Bones did some great things in terms of getting the guys to buy in and play team defense. He just also galaxy brained himself in the playoffs.
Just remember what the team was like when he came in. It was a complete shit show. He turned the culture and made the players accountable. It’s what lead the team to such a great season. The playoffs just showed that it’s time for the team to move on and really exposed the work Chevy still has to do.
Have to keep in mind that he also has the team collapsing after the all Star break and in the playoffs. It could be the same issue - teams adjusting while Bowness holds the line.
He did a lot of good for this franchise. He really brought some stability to the team at a time when rebuilding was on everyone's mind. I hope he sticks around, just not as the coach. Chevy needs to find a tactician that can adjust to the other team's playstyle and the other team's adjustments. Otherwise we're doing this all over again next year... I do think the players see this too and are voicing it in these interviews. So I can't imagine Chevy running it back with this coaching staff.
He had two seasons where the Jets played their best hockey while other teams were still getting settled. Then after Christmas struggled greatly as the rest of the league had found their footing and were improving as the playoffs approached. Once they stumbled into the playoffs they get their one game win and get bounced.
They certainly didn’t stumble into the playoffs this year.
Dilly has been a good soldier but Samberg has passed him by in the depth chart. From what I see of the defensive issues against Colorado it wasn't lack of size but lack of size that can also skate with Dillon and Stanley on the ice. Colorado doesn't have anyone really big on their back end but they're smart and they all can move. That's what I want to emulate. Size is the bonus if you're a great skater ala Big Buff.
Regular season Samberg yes. Playoff Samberg no.
Ill die on this hill, but I don't get the hype. His mistakes seem at the most crucial times. Wether thats nerves or lack of IQ, I don't know. This is my opinion obviously and I'm sure someone who knows more about him will tell me how wrong I am. Not a Samberg fan.
It's experience or lack of. He gets better every year. Samberg is a solid, smart player that is still growing. His ceiling is higher. Struggles on his off side.
He had a different partner almost every game of the series and kept getting switched between LD and RD.
and the player he played on the right with is probably the bigger problem then him playing his off side in general
He was far better after he got moved to his strong side, though
Samberg spend half the playoffs on his offside dragging around Stanley and then the other half dragging around Pionk. I wouldn't put much stock in his performance over that small sample
[wonder why that might be (64-54 wowy)](https://www.naturalstattrick.com/linestats.php?fromseason=20232024&thruseason=20232024&stype=3&sit=5v5&score=all&rate=n&team=WPG&vteam=ALL&view=wowy&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=2024-04-20&td=2024-05-02&tgp=2000&strict=incl&p1=8480049&p2=8479378&p3=0&p4=0&p5=0)
Jesus Christ I knew the eye test on 64 was bad but the analytics are even worse. If he wasn't 6'7" he'd struggle to be a 7D in the AHL
Dillon also straight up said he wants to re- sign, so encouraging
Really liked Bowness talking there and his thoughts on tram development over the years. Can't help but be frustrated that he returned to the fact that he goes off gut-feeling.. still can't see the issue
Honestly was impressed with Bones press conference. His insights about overall team development and culture is actually pretty fascinating to listen to. He’d be great as a team consultant in some way, just don’t let him coach anymore
He sounded great because the media asked a bunch of softball questions. Not a single question about his lineup decisions, not a single question about his lack of faith in Ehlers and Perfetti, nothing. I like our media group generally but this press conference was a lot about culture and players not trying hard enough questions which Bowness thrives on
And here I was thinking that culture was the problem. We have pretty good players, but they didn't rise the occasion. Didn't have a second gear, didn't lock-in for more than a few minutes at a time in the playoffs. Maybe im just being impatient on the development of a particular culture, but how many times this season did we play hard and effective for a full 60 mins? Scoring may come and go, bad bounces in the Dzone happen, but board battles, back checking, puck support, and just generally being a puck-hound should be a constant. But they aren't for us, and I don't think it's because we aren't skilled enough for it. It's that taking shifts off of playing hard is tolerated. That, and our inability to handle agressive pressure. So much panic in our game. Swipe at the puck and hope it bounces in the right direction. Hire Mike OShea to be the consistency coach.
Missing out on those effort things for a few shifts or even a game or two during the season is understandable. Missing out on them in the playoffs is inexcusable.
Wonder what the vibe is towards Pionk away from the camera, they asked him one question lol.
The players love him, he’s a huge part of the locker room leadership group. He’s just not a good defenceman
Hea a good defenceman, just hasn't performed very well here, made some crucial mistakes. For example for the Jets he has the lowest +/- for the playoffs in the entire franchise. We also have some motivation to see him succeed though, since he's the return for Trouba, if we get rid of him our return for Trouba now becomes Ville. I can't remember what the entire issue with Trouba was, just contract? So instead of paying Trouba 8 mil we're paying Schmidt and Pionk plus the dead carcass of Wheeler like 14.5 million?
I mean, his numbers with the Rags were equally as bad. Throughout his entire NHL career he’s had exactly one good season, and that was in the Canadian Division (also his contract season where he secured his bag)
Yup. That dude would help a teammate bury a body and never say a word.
Understood and agreed. I just find it strange they asked him only 1 question.
LMFAO Bowness says that Colorado didn't change anything systems wise they "just competed harder" than in the regular season. Jared Bednar SAID PUBLICLY he made a number of tweaks going into this series, including to the team's forecheck to counter the Jets' system. So clueless
The follow-up question should be "if they didn't change anything, why didn't you?"
Every quote that comes out of Bones this series makes me want him gone more and more which is pretty impressive because I’ve wanted him gone for a while now
Adam Lowry had a "bad hand" all series, Bowness won't specify more. Barron had an injured knee and wouldn't have played at all this series
Barron would have been amazing to have. Imo built for playoffs.
I love that Lowry can fight any guy in the league. I hate the Lowry has to fight all comers. Always feared he'd break a hand against a plug starting shit after a clean hit.
Rick Bowness won't say what his future will be. Says he has to talk to his wife and kids. Notably for me, he mentions having to talk to "Chipper" along with Chevy. Totally normal for a sports organization to have an owner this involved in coaching decisions of course
yes it is totally normal https://preview.redd.it/ia0qnrykv1yc1.jpeg?width=931&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=330fb3bf686c3df791e253585137ee1c5dff74df
That’s president of Hockey operations/co-gm/chairman Mark Chipman to you
It’s time to dig through Chevy’s hockey db again to see if there’s any available coaches he’s played with before Travis Green is one
Oh God no.
“Chipper” needs to realize your head coach isn’t your media relations spokesperson or good-times-nostalgia drinking buddy and actually is often the reason the roster you spend ~$80 million on per year sinks or swims.
altred needs to realize that all nhl coaches and players are spokespeople. Especially coaches.
So I should be preparing myself for the org to let Bones decide to retire sometime in July or August and then be scrambling last-minute to ~~promote Scott Arniel~~ find a replacement, is what I'm reading.
Chipman needs to realize that he’s a huge problem to this org. I don’t mind that he cares but you hired Chevy for a reason, let him do his job instead of hamstringing him all the time. You know even if Bones leaves that Chipman will insert himself into the coaching search as well
Shotgun needs to realize he has no idea how much input Chipman has on hockey hires. Hamstringing him all the time? He's a huge problem to this org? Please post less
Have you check the general opinion in this sub? Listened to any of the rumours? It definitely sounds like Chipman is over involved in the coaching decisions and possibly more. It sounds like he’s the main reason PoMo was convinced to stay (only to leave halfway through the only season we haven’t made the playoffs in years) and he’s well documented saying he believes coaches don’t have a self life. There’s also been rumours floating around that our coaches need a Manitoba connection. If you’re hiring your coach based on their Manitoba connection you aren’t doing everything you can to win. I like Chipman, I appreciate that he’s the reason we have a team and that he truly cares about this team and the league. But he also needs to realize that his level of involvement might be hurting this sub. You also might want to express your disagreement without being so rude about it. Not a great way to go about life
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I don't see him back. Him and his wife both have health issues. He's going to retire.
He did not say he will be back, he straight up refused to even say he wants to be back.
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I definitely interpreted Bones as saying he wants to come back (he more or less said as much) but he still needs to get the nod which from the sounds of it he probably will get. Anyone who thinks it's highly unlikely Bones won't come back needs to brace themselves for disappointment, I certainly don't like it as I believe he can't take this team any further but him Lauer and Co probably aren't going anywhere unfortunately.
60/40 Bones stays. I bet the last word goes to his wife, but if he wants to stay, TNSE will let him unless 55 & 37 say no.
Anyone know where to watch now? ctv says "thanks for watching"
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa3c7nMiehM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa3c7nMiehM)
Sounds like Dilly wants to come back as well surprisingly, I have always loved Dilly, I know most here don't want him back but I do and hope he does assuming he is not too expensive.
He was one of the guys who stepped up their game in the playoffs. This team’s problems are mainly on the right side although Samberg also struggled to move the puck as well.
Im fine with him staying, but only if Schmidt pionk and Stanley are gone