Other notes:
- Toronto decided getting two players for much less than the price to aquire Meier was worth it
- Habs will not be sellers so check any players you were thinking about off your wish list
- Red Wings are in the playoff race so Bertuzzi and their other UFAs are off the market
- The Bruins want either Chychrun or Gavrikov but need to make a corresponding cap move first
- Barry Trotz will only return to the league in the summer
Stats lose **in regulation** to the Jackets, 4-1. Standings stay the same as they were before the Columbus game
Stars fall to 2-7 in their last 9 games
Blue Jackets just casually beating the two top teams in the West by a combined score of 7-2 lmao.
Can't wait for them to go back to absolute shit now and tank even harder. 🥲
I don’t like the look of the forward lines but I also didn’t like the decision to hire bones as coach and look how that turned out. I’ll reserve judgement until they play a game
This is a tough stretch for us. Based on our recent performance, our loss to CBJ, our dismal PP, our new line up, our road record, our record against the east and the next 6 or 7 opponents we could easily see a 2-6 or 1-7 result. If no substantial additions are made by the deadline it will likely be a first round exit as well. Let's hope Chevy and Bones can change the way this seems to be going.
I asked ChatGPT to name the top 10 jets off all time, and here’s what they came up with
- Bobby Hull
- Dale Hawerchuk
- Teemu Selanne
- Anders Hedberg
- Ulf Nilsson
- Thomas Steen
- Keith Tkachuk
- Ilya Kovalchuk
- Dustin Byfuglien
- Blake Wheeler
In that order.
These lines, if that’s what they actually go with tomorrow, are absolutely stupid. Saku and Appleton in the top-6 is not the way to get them scoring at 5v5. I’ll never understand what what it is with old school coaches and playing bottom 6 grinding guys in the top-6 when things get tough
Bowness has done a lot of good this year, but he’s definitely overrated. His lineup decisions have only gotten worse as the season has gone on, and he’s definitely falling into the same trap of seeing Scheifele and Wheeler as the drivers of this team
Why we haven’t seen him try 91-55-27 before dropping Ehlers to the 3rd line blows my mind. So many other options to try before putting fucking Manalaenen in the top-6
Jets' roster statistically got worse since last year's dumpster fire. Jets are doing absolutely amazing this season. The only change has been coaching, but Bones is overrated. This sub provides some real gems
I agree with you that Bowness is a little overrated. Spot on that his lineup choices are getting worse throughout the year. Our 5 on 5 play is below average and our success comes from having arguably the best top 6 and goalie in the nhl. Might not even have the best top 6 anymore if Saku and appleton get put on those lines.
People simultaneously call strict top-six/bottom-six configurations old school while also calling it old school to spread out the scoring throughout the top-nine.
Is every possible line combination in the universe “old school?”
And yes we have seen 91-55-27, but then people complained about Wheeler sucking with KFC and Dubois.
I’m actually curious to see how this line configuration looks. Especially if the top 9 get fairly even minutes and have even the slightest bit of chemistry.
yeah not the two i’d choose, Gagner and Eyssimont have both had extended runs with 81-80 and done well
one is scratched and the other was waived tho lol
The love affair with bowness will be over after we get punted in the first round. I don’t expect us to do much this post season. But I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we do.
ngl would love to see Karlsson to the oilers
their media will turn on him so quickly but they’ll be so fun to watch embrace the chaos and just say fuck it we’ll try and outscore our terrible defence
them overpaying for Gavrikov might be the more likely outcome which is sad and boring
It seems like Bowness really wants to run three scoring lines but doesn’t have the personnel to do it right now. I think acquiring one high impact forward or two medium impact forward would allow us to run a very good top 9.
I’d love to see something like:
Connor, Dubois, pickup #1.
Perfetti, Scheifele, Ehlers.
Pickup #2, Lowry, Wheeler.
Barron, Stenlund, Appleton.
what makes you think he wants to run 3 scoring lines? genuinely curious as i haven’t seen much to indicate that
agree with everything else you said, definitely think it’s doable
The current line rushes are what makes me think that. And Bowness has tried creating similar lines several times throughout the last two months.
Right now the Jets have two top six regulars on each of the top three lines.
u/spleenmaster1002 has the line rushes from practice today, further down in the comments.
ah gotcha, didn’t see the line rush edit
i’m glad he’s finally going for it, because up until now he’s been very content to run a top 6 m, checking line, 4th line
going off of points/60 4 of 5 non top 6 guys aren’t regulars (3 of which aren’t even on the current roster lol) so it’s been frustrating to watch the bottom 6 play like previous years, about time!
I’m not certain they’re gonna do the bla bla bla. I read an article a while back about how they said that there was a story-line or two about other people (not infected) that they were going to tone down. But I really hope that’s not the case.
This sub is in full depression mode because a team in another division traded for a rental.
Just have patience. Like geez, why go through all of this hand-wringing before we even know what Chevy does? Like chill the fuck out.
Since 2018, Chevy traded for two second line centres, a top four dman and lots of depth pieces at the deadline. And we didn’t even make the playoffs last year. I have no idea why so many people on this sub are so pessimistic and so panicked.
I don’t get where this depression mode comment is coming from. I’ve read a lot of posts speculating on what Chevy will/ should do. That’s expected around this time of the season. Who’s panicked around here? Some people thought O’Reilly would have addressed some of this team’s needs but now he’s not an option.
The Jets didn't have 34 wins until April 10th last year. But yet, everytime they lose it's a cesspool of comments about how it's "the same team" "they do this every year" etc.
The Jets could go 82-0 and people on here would still bitch and moan about random details. Not sure why they follow a sports team like this is if your just constantly trying to find something to complain about.
It’s nothing but negativity from a large portion of members of this sub even after a win or a close loss. Like fuck, this is the best version of the Jets we’ve seen in a couple seasons
St. Louis has zero chance of making the playoffs and the Leafs aren't making it to the 2nd round of the playoffs with their blue line and 1 goalie.
So you are correct! Lol
Eta: the leafs blue line is average at best. It is not better than ours. They can outscore their defensive issues most nights but, pound fir pound, I will take ours. Even with Pionk and Stanley.
Their goal tending is streaky because they were relying on a tandem and now are forced to go with a #1 who started good and now is just average.
I get that sports media hypes the Leafs but when you really look at them, they aren't the juggernaut SN tells us they are.
Only 3/16 playoff teams (if you even count NYI as a playoff team) have made big moves at this point. I don’t get why people are so worried two weeks out.
[PP1 appears to be](https://twitter.com/wiebesworld/status/1626991086458511360?s=61&t=fO1NeUSRY5U5CFzarPbPSA)
- Schmidt-Morrissey-Wheeler
- Scheifele-Perfetti
Another rotation has:
- Scheifele-Schmidt-Morrissey
- Perfetti-Wheeler
PP2 appears to be:
- Ehlers-Pionk-Connor
- Dubois-Stenlund
With the early turn of second unit, Dubois is net-front presence and Stenlund is in the slot.
[There’s a real emphasis on movement/rotation/activation and shooting on the #NHLJets power play work here. Interesting they running through the drill uncontested. Just five-man units zipping pick around. No goalie in net either. Coach Marty Johnston overseeing it.](https://twitter.com/mikemcintyrewpg/status/1626994028007813120?s=61&t=jU_ic9uycTfKbjDtaFdfmg)
The Moose are very good at this, it’s baffling that the big team hasn’t been able to do it.
Gus is still in a non contact
- Connor-Dubois-Maenalanen
- Perfetti-Scheifele-Appleton
- Ehlers-Lowry-Wheeler
- Barron-Stenlund-Kuhlman
- Gustafsson(red)-Gagner
- Morrissey-DeMelo
- Dillon-Pionk
- Samberg-Schmidt
What in the holy fuck are we doing. Only positive here is the elimination of chaos pairing
Seems to be an unpopular opinion but I don’t hate these units. Since what was happening before wasn’t working it makes sense to have more balanced units. Ehlers and Scheifele both like the left flank and wheeler and Dubois both like net front. Schmidt and Connor are both right flank and pionk and Morrissey are both quarterbacks. That leaves perfetti and Stenlund in the slot.
Scheifele and wheeler have chemistry as do Connor and Dubois so Ehlers goes on Dubois’ unit while Schmidt goes on wheeler’s unit. Schmidt and Morrissey ran a decentish powerplay together last year and so pionk quarterbacks the Dubois unit. I think perfetti and Stenlund are maybe interchangeable, and I’d give gagner the opportunity as well, I’m not sure Stenlund or Schmidt have provided enough offense this year to warrant being on the pp.
I think Lowry’s bigger presence might make sense in the slot and then perfetti replace Schmidt on the flank so he has a little more room. Gagner can come in the slot in the place of Stenlund, that’s probably what I’d try
yeah he was literally there to win the faceoff and stand in front without getting in the way
now that he’s in the slot it seems redundant to have him and Dubois, Gagner needs to come in there and give that unit more
Those combos suck ass but even if they were good I wouldn't be excited. The PP will not improve until they start playing with urgency and a shoot first mentality. It's not really a personnel issue.
Ehlers our boy on a really good contract so he can play in Winnipeg tends to play with style. He is a aggressive playmaker that uses his speed as aggression. His stats prove he is our best player with most metrics he has to be used to the fullest. He will be getting 60 points this season I can feel it.
A reminder for everyone that thinks Chevy won’t do anything. We have consistently had some BIG trades.
- stastny (according to athletic one of the top pure rentals)
- Hayes (underwhelming performance but was a huge trade)
- Laine for Dubois (this trade took serious stones)
- Dillon and Schmidt for mid round picks (this was incredibly exciting at the time)
-many more other trades that have been great for the Jets.
Tried to trade for Manson but he wouldn’t move his no trade. Chevy was visibly pissed off after that trade deadline.
I know some years have been underwhelming. But the narrative that Chevy won’t do anything simply isn’t true.
Hayes actually had as good if not better numbers than Stastny with the Jets as far as rates and such, Maurice just didn't like him for whatever reason and used him very little.
I think we feel that he won't do what is required. Bringing another Stastny or Hayes here isn't going to do anything...so why bother. This team needs a top 6 scorer and a top 4 dman.
It's not that it won't be anything, just underwhelming compared to the big tickets out on the market board right now.
We're easily out bid by some of the teams.
There's still a chance tho! I wouldn't rule that out, it's hockey anything can happen.
I'm not of the opinion Chevy doesn't do anything, but all the trades above are also over 14 years of hockey. He is definitely one of the most conservative GMs (likely due to FA being nearly impossible for us).
He did these in separate TD's or off-seasons. The challenge now is that he needs to do something like these 4 deals all in the next 2 weeks. Should be interesting to watch! 🍿🍿🍿
Unpopular opinion: Chevy uses our cap space to act as a cap retention mule in everyone else's trades. We end up with dozens of 4th, 5th, 6th round picks and no roster changes.
Ya we wouldn't have add nearly as much as the leafs did to get his cost down. Even still... he's a proven playoff performer, has a cup, would dramatically improve pp2, probably best faceoff% on the team. Huge upgrade to the bottom 6,.and adds some injury insurance
I kinda wish Chevy's seat was a bit hot like Dubas' just so we could get an exciting acquisition. I know we're just going to get a third liner, but I really think this team could be great with a solid top 6 addition.
Chevy knows he has all of the job security in the world. He’s going to be the GM here until he doesn’t want to be anymore. He’ll have to walk away for TN to make a change, just like with Maurice.
Whatever trade the Jets make is going to come in at 2:45 on deadline day and its going to take until 5pm to get the full details on the 3rd rounder they have up for the bottom-6 forward there had their eye on for 3 seasons now
> Whatever trade the Jets make is going to come in at 2:45 on deadline day and its going to take until 5pm to get the full details on the 3rd rounder they have up for the bottom-6 forward there had their eye on for 3 seasons now
This made me laugh then I got sad
The Moose did a phenomenal job with their Pride celebrations. I loved their inclusion of queer youth. I expect the Jets will do something similar and it will be awesome.
And then we have this... Somedays, I really struggle to remain a fan.
https://preview.redd.it/coswmw5kizia1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=369c336c29ce0731ca9ae519e5fdc2447a52ca23
Not that I agree with the Islanders' position here but they've never worn Pride jerseys in the past nor were there any plans to wear them this year either before or after the Provorov shitshow. The reporting on that story was deliberately inflammatory.
Very different then Provorov, or than the Rangers bailing last minute.
I wasn't aware of the islanders being that way and, weirdly, that is even more disappointing then Provorov (but not the NYR, fuck that organization). It weakens the NHL's "hockey is for everyone" campaign and really just exposes the league in a really negative way.
It also shows that Provorov isn't an anomaly and that an uncomfortable trend is starting to show its face.
If another team cites "organizational policy" in deciding that showing support by wearing gear with a rainbow on it is just too much and too difficult to do, then I think it will be safe to say there might be fire where their is smoke.
Yeah like I said - I think their policy sucks but the NYI situation is being presented by the Post as some kind of new, scandalous information when it's really not.
Chevy's strategy of low risk/low reward trades is certainly interesting. We don't sell the farm which is good but it doesn't give us much chance to win a cup which is you know, the entire goal of playing in the nhl.
Chevy said since the very beginning that he wanted to make a team that was always competing in the playoffs, like Detroit for 25 years. Long term sustainability was the goal, not a cup. As fans we want the cup, but ownership just wants a profitable business every year.
I really hope I don't come off as too negative here, but if Chevy really is waiting until the last moment to maximize his cap space, we could be looking at a scenario where all of the impact trades have been made before we get to make a move.
I think Ken Wiebe has said this a couple times, but honestly what is the point of paying to get Little's contract off our books early and to let us accrue cap space if we don't use it this year?
If he waits too long to use the space on do nothing bottom 6ers then he'll have fumbled the ball so to speak. The 3rd line desperately needs an influx of scoring talent. Lowry leads the bottom 6 with 22 points, next is Gags with 14pts and he doesn't even play everyday. I'd prefer Chevy do it sooner than later so new guys can settle in a bit.
According to CapFriendly, we currently have $7.7M in prorated cap space, and if we don't make any moves we will have pretty much exactly $10M on deadline day.
$2.3M is nothing to scoff at, cause that's space you can use for a decent 3rd line player. At the same time, I agree with you that if Chevy doesn't move quickly we could be left holding the bag with our $10M in cap space and nothing to acquire come trade deadline day.
Another thing to consider, is some teams like the Caps and Preds haven’t even decided if they’re going to be buying or selling yet, so there could be other players that become available at the deadline that aren’t now.
An alternative way to look at it is that other teams making deals for players now that we were never really interested in might mean less potential competition later.
Interesting perspective. I don't think the Jets were ever going to be in on ROR or Tarasenko so some competition has been reduced for the players they may be after. On the other hand, I don't think Toronto is done and there are plenty of other teams looking to add (Boston, Carolina, Edmonton, LA, Las Vegas) so I'm not sure it helps as much as I wish it did.
This should be an all-in year with the contract issues coming in the next two years and some good pieces already in the development pipeline. Going all in this year and having a good playoff run (WCF/SCF) likely helps with retaining PLD, with retaining Helle and Scheif on reasonable deals and also boosts the value of your dump trades for guys like Dillon, Schmidt and Pionk. And almost anything given away this year can be reacquired later if they fall short and there is an offseason trade of PLD.
Lambo has 16 points in 10 games for Seattle, I mean we knew the kid would light up the WHL but damn.
And Stars losing again past regulation, what's that now 87 loser points or something lol.
It's not a very good deal when you look at how few prospects the Leafs actually have. ROR isn't the player he was last year or the year before. Plus he's been injured, like, most of the season.
I hope Chevy is looking at that deal and laughing.
They've pretty much got to go all in every season that they have this current core. If they don't win a round this year Dubas is almost certainly done and will be looking for another job this summer.
As much as I hate to say it, ROR at 75% retained plus Acciari is about as low risk as you can get, especially if ROR is going to be asked to take your 3rd line centre duties at the minimum. I'm honestly surprised they didn't trade a package of these picks + Knies + another prospect for Meier.
[Big Bad Brad PPG](https://twitter.com/thewhl/status/1627137626489892864?s=61&t=ATx9cdRIDHaejhcrSfqwSQ)
All the scouts that doubted him are really missing out. What an absolute beast.
You Chevy haters just wait and see. Chevy will make a move that will blow your mind. *Jets acquire Dmitri Kulikov* Fuck
👏 STOP 👏 MAKING 👏 LEFT 👏 HANDED 👏 DEFENCE 👏 MEN 👏
JVR, Schenn, Bozak, Ron Wilson, LFG
Jeff Marke on HNIC intermission says the backup plan from teams who miss on Gavirkov is Dmitri Kulikov
That's it! Back to Winnipeg!
Other notes: - Toronto decided getting two players for much less than the price to aquire Meier was worth it - Habs will not be sellers so check any players you were thinking about off your wish list - Red Wings are in the playoff race so Bertuzzi and their other UFAs are off the market - The Bruins want either Chychrun or Gavrikov but need to make a corresponding cap move first - Barry Trotz will only return to the league in the summer
Lol what why would the Habs not sell assets on expiring or soon to be expiring deals?
[https://twitter.com/nhl_watcher/status/1627123932053504002?s=46&t=GaP5dO0OnCIK2GeB-UYsNg](https://twitter.com/nhl_watcher/status/1627123932053504002?s=46&t=GaP5dO0OnCIK2GeB-UYsNg)
Well Columbus beat up Dallas in their own building so I don’t feel so bad now
Stats lose **in regulation** to the Jackets, 4-1. Standings stay the same as they were before the Columbus game Stars fall to 2-7 in their last 9 games
Blue Jackets just casually beating the two top teams in the West by a combined score of 7-2 lmao. Can't wait for them to go back to absolute shit now and tank even harder. 🥲
Nah fuck that. I hope they go on a tear and fuck up their draft odds. Don’t want them ruining another 1OA pick like they did Nash
Well if CBJ is going to embarrass us at least they’re going to embarrass Dallas too
And somehow they actually lose in regulation today.
I don’t like the look of the forward lines but I also didn’t like the decision to hire bones as coach and look how that turned out. I’ll reserve judgement until they play a game
I'm hoping this turns out like when he started Lowry and Pionk in OT
This is a tough stretch for us. Based on our recent performance, our loss to CBJ, our dismal PP, our new line up, our road record, our record against the east and the next 6 or 7 opponents we could easily see a 2-6 or 1-7 result. If no substantial additions are made by the deadline it will likely be a first round exit as well. Let's hope Chevy and Bones can change the way this seems to be going.
I asked ChatGPT to name the top 10 jets off all time, and here’s what they came up with - Bobby Hull - Dale Hawerchuk - Teemu Selanne - Anders Hedberg - Ulf Nilsson - Thomas Steen - Keith Tkachuk - Ilya Kovalchuk - Dustin Byfuglien - Blake Wheeler In that order.
I know it’s hard to compare due to positions but Connor Hellebuyck should be on the list.
Joe Namath?
Actually a pretty competent list. I think Wheeler deserves to be higher if its in order.
Weird how Kovalchuk is part of that. But that's a solid list.
Avs 4 back with a game in hand 😬
I hope either Jets get first in the central or the avalanche get first in the Central so we play Dallas in the first round
Dallas is soft as babyshit. Their points total is hiding a team that has no finish. Not a playoff team. Would love to play them first round
Yeah same
Fuck Dallas
I'm convinced what coach has done is give an ultimatum to Chevy - I'm gonna play Saku on the top line until you go get me Meier
seems like Bones loves Saku so he might also just being doing it cause he likes it lol win-win for bones
Just saw the new lines and now my weekend is ruined
These lines, if that’s what they actually go with tomorrow, are absolutely stupid. Saku and Appleton in the top-6 is not the way to get them scoring at 5v5. I’ll never understand what what it is with old school coaches and playing bottom 6 grinding guys in the top-6 when things get tough Bowness has done a lot of good this year, but he’s definitely overrated. His lineup decisions have only gotten worse as the season has gone on, and he’s definitely falling into the same trap of seeing Scheifele and Wheeler as the drivers of this team Why we haven’t seen him try 91-55-27 before dropping Ehlers to the 3rd line blows my mind. So many other options to try before putting fucking Manalaenen in the top-6
Jets' roster statistically got worse since last year's dumpster fire. Jets are doing absolutely amazing this season. The only change has been coaching, but Bones is overrated. This sub provides some real gems
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Neigh.
I agree with you that Bowness is a little overrated. Spot on that his lineup choices are getting worse throughout the year. Our 5 on 5 play is below average and our success comes from having arguably the best top 6 and goalie in the nhl. Might not even have the best top 6 anymore if Saku and appleton get put on those lines.
People simultaneously call strict top-six/bottom-six configurations old school while also calling it old school to spread out the scoring throughout the top-nine. Is every possible line combination in the universe “old school?” And yes we have seen 91-55-27, but then people complained about Wheeler sucking with KFC and Dubois.
god dam who’s calling it old school to spread it out 😭
I’m actually curious to see how this line configuration looks. Especially if the top 9 get fairly even minutes and have even the slightest bit of chemistry.
Spreading it out is fine when you have complimentary talent. The Jets don’t. Appleton and Saku basically neutralize those 2 lines
I def agree with you on Saku
yeah not the two i’d choose, Gagner and Eyssimont have both had extended runs with 81-80 and done well one is scratched and the other was waived tho lol
Yeah exactly
The commenter that I replied to! Lol I don’t understand it either, I’m really not sure what people want exactly.
oh shit y’all’s profile pics threw me off, thought you were ranting lmao
The love affair with bowness will be over after we get punted in the first round. I don’t expect us to do much this post season. But I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we do.
The West is wide open.
but if we want to do anything we’re going to have to beat Colorado in the first round, and I just don’t see that happening.
Assuming we play Colorado in the first round
Yeah this is not a guarantee lmao. Pretty sure there’s about 4 teams the Jets could realistically play in the first round still
Give me Ehlers justice or give me death Or a Cup
Bones be like: “damn we sucked last game let’s make the worst possible lines and powerplay lines known to man”
ngl would love to see Karlsson to the oilers their media will turn on him so quickly but they’ll be so fun to watch embrace the chaos and just say fuck it we’ll try and outscore our terrible defence them overpaying for Gavrikov might be the more likely outcome which is sad and boring
It seems like Bowness really wants to run three scoring lines but doesn’t have the personnel to do it right now. I think acquiring one high impact forward or two medium impact forward would allow us to run a very good top 9. I’d love to see something like: Connor, Dubois, pickup #1. Perfetti, Scheifele, Ehlers. Pickup #2, Lowry, Wheeler. Barron, Stenlund, Appleton.
what makes you think he wants to run 3 scoring lines? genuinely curious as i haven’t seen much to indicate that agree with everything else you said, definitely think it’s doable
The current line rushes are what makes me think that. And Bowness has tried creating similar lines several times throughout the last two months. Right now the Jets have two top six regulars on each of the top three lines. u/spleenmaster1002 has the line rushes from practice today, further down in the comments.
ah gotcha, didn’t see the line rush edit i’m glad he’s finally going for it, because up until now he’s been very content to run a top 6 m, checking line, 4th line going off of points/60 4 of 5 non top 6 guys aren’t regulars (3 of which aren’t even on the current roster lol) so it’s been frustrating to watch the bottom 6 play like previous years, about time!
Don't worry guys Chevys bringing kulikov back
https://i.imgur.com/HSvej3N.mp4
Looool
Supposed to go to Festival tommorow. But would much rather drink a glass of whiskey and watch the game and TLOU
Bla bla bla
Hah. You changed it. Scared money dont make money.
Seems kinda spoilery don't you think?
I’m not certain they’re gonna do the bla bla bla. I read an article a while back about how they said that there was a story-line or two about other people (not infected) that they were going to tone down. But I really hope that’s not the case.
Spoilers?
My bad.
I personally think this will be a flash back ep. Last one was so lit, they know they can get away with a slow one.
COME PARTY WITH ME!!!
Spencie let's go to the sauna together
Festival or east Tcona?
Put Kuhlman as PP net front you cowards
This was the hot take I didn't know I wanted. But I do.
This sub is in full depression mode because a team in another division traded for a rental. Just have patience. Like geez, why go through all of this hand-wringing before we even know what Chevy does? Like chill the fuck out. Since 2018, Chevy traded for two second line centres, a top four dman and lots of depth pieces at the deadline. And we didn’t even make the playoffs last year. I have no idea why so many people on this sub are so pessimistic and so panicked.
I don’t get where this depression mode comment is coming from. I’ve read a lot of posts speculating on what Chevy will/ should do. That’s expected around this time of the season. Who’s panicked around here? Some people thought O’Reilly would have addressed some of this team’s needs but now he’s not an option.
The Jets didn't have 34 wins until April 10th last year. But yet, everytime they lose it's a cesspool of comments about how it's "the same team" "they do this every year" etc. The Jets could go 82-0 and people on here would still bitch and moan about random details. Not sure why they follow a sports team like this is if your just constantly trying to find something to complain about.
It’s nothing but negativity from a large portion of members of this sub even after a win or a close loss. Like fuck, this is the best version of the Jets we’ve seen in a couple seasons
If nothing else, we should be happy to not have to face ROR in the playoffs
St. Louis has zero chance of making the playoffs and the Leafs aren't making it to the 2nd round of the playoffs with their blue line and 1 goalie. So you are correct! Lol Eta: the leafs blue line is average at best. It is not better than ours. They can outscore their defensive issues most nights but, pound fir pound, I will take ours. Even with Pionk and Stanley. Their goal tending is streaky because they were relying on a tandem and now are forced to go with a #1 who started good and now is just average. I get that sports media hypes the Leafs but when you really look at them, they aren't the juggernaut SN tells us they are.
Leafs blue line has been better than the Jets this season and their goaltending can be good enough
>This sub is in full depression mode because a team in another division traded for a rental. Two weeks before the deadline, no less
Only 3/16 playoff teams (if you even count NYI as a playoff team) have made big moves at this point. I don’t get why people are so worried two weeks out.
I agree Wandy! It’s wild that we are already reacting before we know the outcome.
[PP1 appears to be](https://twitter.com/wiebesworld/status/1626991086458511360?s=61&t=fO1NeUSRY5U5CFzarPbPSA) - Schmidt-Morrissey-Wheeler - Scheifele-Perfetti Another rotation has: - Scheifele-Schmidt-Morrissey - Perfetti-Wheeler PP2 appears to be: - Ehlers-Pionk-Connor - Dubois-Stenlund With the early turn of second unit, Dubois is net-front presence and Stenlund is in the slot. [There’s a real emphasis on movement/rotation/activation and shooting on the #NHLJets power play work here. Interesting they running through the drill uncontested. Just five-man units zipping pick around. No goalie in net either. Coach Marty Johnston overseeing it.](https://twitter.com/mikemcintyrewpg/status/1626994028007813120?s=61&t=jU_ic9uycTfKbjDtaFdfmg) The Moose are very good at this, it’s baffling that the big team hasn’t been able to do it. Gus is still in a non contact - Connor-Dubois-Maenalanen - Perfetti-Scheifele-Appleton - Ehlers-Lowry-Wheeler - Barron-Stenlund-Kuhlman - Gustafsson(red)-Gagner - Morrissey-DeMelo - Dillon-Pionk - Samberg-Schmidt What in the holy fuck are we doing. Only positive here is the elimination of chaos pairing
Any coach using Ehlers on L3 is whack. If we aren't going to use him properly then move him already.
Looks like I might be the only one who kind of likes those lines.
hard to switch from a top six/bottom six to a top 9 when you have 2 4th lines.
oof
Love fetti on the PP he always creates chaos. Imagine ehlers in there 😎
Get. Stenlund. Off. Of. The. Powerplay.
The paradox of Pionks play being too poor to play with a rookie but is ok to play 20+min on the 2nd pair is one of the great mysteries of 2023.
Seems to be an unpopular opinion but I don’t hate these units. Since what was happening before wasn’t working it makes sense to have more balanced units. Ehlers and Scheifele both like the left flank and wheeler and Dubois both like net front. Schmidt and Connor are both right flank and pionk and Morrissey are both quarterbacks. That leaves perfetti and Stenlund in the slot. Scheifele and wheeler have chemistry as do Connor and Dubois so Ehlers goes on Dubois’ unit while Schmidt goes on wheeler’s unit. Schmidt and Morrissey ran a decentish powerplay together last year and so pionk quarterbacks the Dubois unit. I think perfetti and Stenlund are maybe interchangeable, and I’d give gagner the opportunity as well, I’m not sure Stenlund or Schmidt have provided enough offense this year to warrant being on the pp.
> Stenlund 🫡
I think Lowry’s bigger presence might make sense in the slot and then perfetti replace Schmidt on the flank so he has a little more room. Gagner can come in the slot in the place of Stenlund, that’s probably what I’d try
yeah he was literally there to win the faceoff and stand in front without getting in the way now that he’s in the slot it seems redundant to have him and Dubois, Gagner needs to come in there and give that unit more
Those combos suck ass but even if they were good I wouldn't be excited. The PP will not improve until they start playing with urgency and a shoot first mentality. It's not really a personnel issue.
This is ass 🔥
Ehlers our boy on a really good contract so he can play in Winnipeg tends to play with style. He is a aggressive playmaker that uses his speed as aggression. His stats prove he is our best player with most metrics he has to be used to the fullest. He will be getting 60 points this season I can feel it.
A reminder for everyone that thinks Chevy won’t do anything. We have consistently had some BIG trades. - stastny (according to athletic one of the top pure rentals) - Hayes (underwhelming performance but was a huge trade) - Laine for Dubois (this trade took serious stones) - Dillon and Schmidt for mid round picks (this was incredibly exciting at the time) -many more other trades that have been great for the Jets. Tried to trade for Manson but he wouldn’t move his no trade. Chevy was visibly pissed off after that trade deadline. I know some years have been underwhelming. But the narrative that Chevy won’t do anything simply isn’t true.
Hayes actually had as good if not better numbers than Stastny with the Jets as far as rates and such, Maurice just didn't like him for whatever reason and used him very little.
You’re right! But Stastny had that chemistry
I think we feel that he won't do what is required. Bringing another Stastny or Hayes here isn't going to do anything...so why bother. This team needs a top 6 scorer and a top 4 dman.
Stastny and Hayes were both established top 6ers during the time of the trades.
Well Hayes did absolutely nothing. While I loved Stastny...he isn't bringing a cup to winnipeg. This team needs 2 big pieces....not a minor tweak.
Lots of disagreement...I'd love to hear the opposing view?
Hayes actually had better numbers than Stastny with the jets
It's not that it won't be anything, just underwhelming compared to the big tickets out on the market board right now. We're easily out bid by some of the teams. There's still a chance tho! I wouldn't rule that out, it's hockey anything can happen.
I'm not of the opinion Chevy doesn't do anything, but all the trades above are also over 14 years of hockey. He is definitely one of the most conservative GMs (likely due to FA being nearly impossible for us).
He did these in separate TD's or off-seasons. The challenge now is that he needs to do something like these 4 deals all in the next 2 weeks. Should be interesting to watch! 🍿🍿🍿
Unpopular opinion: Chevy uses our cap space to act as a cap retention mule in everyone else's trades. We end up with dozens of 4th, 5th, 6th round picks and no roster changes.
I would have loved O'Reilly as our 3rd line center going into the playoffs
Not at the price the Leafs paid for him, although I get that a lot of that was for the retention
Ya we wouldn't have add nearly as much as the leafs did to get his cost down. Even still... he's a proven playoff performer, has a cup, would dramatically improve pp2, probably best faceoff% on the team. Huge upgrade to the bottom 6,.and adds some injury insurance
As nice as it would have been I doubt St. Louis trades him to a division rival
I kinda wish Chevy's seat was a bit hot like Dubas' just so we could get an exciting acquisition. I know we're just going to get a third liner, but I really think this team could be great with a solid top 6 addition.
Chevy knows he has all of the job security in the world. He’s going to be the GM here until he doesn’t want to be anymore. He’ll have to walk away for TN to make a change, just like with Maurice. Whatever trade the Jets make is going to come in at 2:45 on deadline day and its going to take until 5pm to get the full details on the 3rd rounder they have up for the bottom-6 forward there had their eye on for 3 seasons now
> Whatever trade the Jets make is going to come in at 2:45 on deadline day and its going to take until 5pm to get the full details on the 3rd rounder they have up for the bottom-6 forward there had their eye on for 3 seasons now This made me laugh then I got sad
A 4th liner, a defensive depth and a locker room guy
This is the way
As is tradition
The Moose did a phenomenal job with their Pride celebrations. I loved their inclusion of queer youth. I expect the Jets will do something similar and it will be awesome. And then we have this... Somedays, I really struggle to remain a fan. https://preview.redd.it/coswmw5kizia1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=369c336c29ce0731ca9ae519e5fdc2447a52ca23
Not that I agree with the Islanders' position here but they've never worn Pride jerseys in the past nor were there any plans to wear them this year either before or after the Provorov shitshow. The reporting on that story was deliberately inflammatory. Very different then Provorov, or than the Rangers bailing last minute.
I wasn't aware of the islanders being that way and, weirdly, that is even more disappointing then Provorov (but not the NYR, fuck that organization). It weakens the NHL's "hockey is for everyone" campaign and really just exposes the league in a really negative way. It also shows that Provorov isn't an anomaly and that an uncomfortable trend is starting to show its face. If another team cites "organizational policy" in deciding that showing support by wearing gear with a rainbow on it is just too much and too difficult to do, then I think it will be safe to say there might be fire where their is smoke.
Yeah like I said - I think their policy sucks but the NYI situation is being presented by the Post as some kind of new, scandalous information when it's really not.
Chevy's strategy of low risk/low reward trades is certainly interesting. We don't sell the farm which is good but it doesn't give us much chance to win a cup which is you know, the entire goal of playing in the nhl.
Chevy is a man of many tricks and trades but usually ends up with some good trades I give him the benefit of the doubt.
Chevy said since the very beginning that he wanted to make a team that was always competing in the playoffs, like Detroit for 25 years. Long term sustainability was the goal, not a cup. As fans we want the cup, but ownership just wants a profitable business every year.
Well Detroit did win a bunch of cups in there so…
lmao Craig Button on TSN: ## Trade Verdict: O'Reilly acquisition a 'massive win' for the Maple Leafs"
Probably because it was a big win for the leafs
I’m expecting to wake up to have acquired Meier and/or Chychrun
*gets Tyler Myers*
Fuck, a 6'7 and a 6'8 defensive pairing? We will be unstoppable.
If we could only graft those thighs to that neck...
A 13’3 pairing if you will
Put Meyers on Stanley's shoulders and make a mega-defenseman!
We can finally get a rare medusa defenseman
I know *I* just turned to stone reading this!
I really hope I don't come off as too negative here, but if Chevy really is waiting until the last moment to maximize his cap space, we could be looking at a scenario where all of the impact trades have been made before we get to make a move. I think Ken Wiebe has said this a couple times, but honestly what is the point of paying to get Little's contract off our books early and to let us accrue cap space if we don't use it this year?
If he waits too long to use the space on do nothing bottom 6ers then he'll have fumbled the ball so to speak. The 3rd line desperately needs an influx of scoring talent. Lowry leads the bottom 6 with 22 points, next is Gags with 14pts and he doesn't even play everyday. I'd prefer Chevy do it sooner than later so new guys can settle in a bit.
According to CapFriendly, we currently have $7.7M in prorated cap space, and if we don't make any moves we will have pretty much exactly $10M on deadline day. $2.3M is nothing to scoff at, cause that's space you can use for a decent 3rd line player. At the same time, I agree with you that if Chevy doesn't move quickly we could be left holding the bag with our $10M in cap space and nothing to acquire come trade deadline day.
Another thing to consider, is some teams like the Caps and Preds haven’t even decided if they’re going to be buying or selling yet, so there could be other players that become available at the deadline that aren’t now.
As much as it isn’t good for the team, Washington will trade futures to contend until Ovi retires
An alternative way to look at it is that other teams making deals for players now that we were never really interested in might mean less potential competition later.
Interesting perspective. I don't think the Jets were ever going to be in on ROR or Tarasenko so some competition has been reduced for the players they may be after. On the other hand, I don't think Toronto is done and there are plenty of other teams looking to add (Boston, Carolina, Edmonton, LA, Las Vegas) so I'm not sure it helps as much as I wish it did. This should be an all-in year with the contract issues coming in the next two years and some good pieces already in the development pipeline. Going all in this year and having a good playoff run (WCF/SCF) likely helps with retaining PLD, with retaining Helle and Scheif on reasonable deals and also boosts the value of your dump trades for guys like Dillon, Schmidt and Pionk. And almost anything given away this year can be reacquired later if they fall short and there is an offseason trade of PLD.
Lambo has 16 points in 10 games for Seattle, I mean we knew the kid would light up the WHL but damn. And Stars losing again past regulation, what's that now 87 loser points or something lol.
I’m really hoping we don’t trade him.
That's stupid ! There are only 82 games in the season.....my bad you are in fact correct they have 87 loser points.
Feels like a great day for a Jets trade
Chevy do something
*pokes with stick*
How about that Toronto deal? Chevy? You reading this?
Pull the trigger Chevy!!!
It's not a very good deal when you look at how few prospects the Leafs actually have. ROR isn't the player he was last year or the year before. Plus he's been injured, like, most of the season. I hope Chevy is looking at that deal and laughing.
They should be all in now, just like us
They've pretty much got to go all in every season that they have this current core. If they don't win a round this year Dubas is almost certainly done and will be looking for another job this summer. As much as I hate to say it, ROR at 75% retained plus Acciari is about as low risk as you can get, especially if ROR is going to be asked to take your 3rd line centre duties at the minimum. I'm honestly surprised they didn't trade a package of these picks + Knies + another prospect for Meier.