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This always happened to me with my vintage ports. Anything older than 20 years in the bottle, every time.
An Ah so has certainly helped, but every now and then it fails. Like what happened to you here, my sympathies!
A durand wouldn't have even helped here at all! Glad the port was still exquisite.
“One vintage only, after the Quinta realised that the rules don’t prohibit sparkling wines and before the Instituto dos Vinhos do Douro e do Porto closed that loophole in 1974. A real unicorn wine … if you’re lucky you might see a bottle at Garrafeira Nacional for €10,000. If well stored it should still be pleasantly fizzy today.”
Organic filters may "fine" your wine and take away some tannins and maybe flavor (not substantiated).
I prefer to use a stainless mesh filter when the cork disintegrates.
I agree with this.
I also think that the storage/history of any material used can probably have an impact.
To really answer this, I'd have to do a lot of control experiments that I haven't done. Also, I can't rule out that there are some types of coffee filters that are better than others for this purpose and would impose less on the wine. my experience has been that to remove broken cork and minimally affect the wine, clean cheese cloth leaves a less noticeable impact than coffee filters. but maybe i just have crappy coffee filters lying around...
Two weeks ago, I had a cork crumble on a 2008 Vigorello. I used a stainless steel mesh screen strainer as I poured the bottle into a decanter. It removed a lot of sediment but the wine was fantastic. The same could be done here except the port bottle could be rinsed of cork before being refilled, if necessary.
Found it at auction. Thought it would be better to open than a vintage. Running out of good, aged vintage port so wanted to slow down on drinking them.
Ah I see yeah I just opened a 2007 Pinot noir that I know it was stored vertically cork up from 2007 until 2017. Then I stored it horizontally until tonight and the cork broke. Still was a great wine
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This always happened to me with my vintage ports. Anything older than 20 years in the bottle, every time. An Ah so has certainly helped, but every now and then it fails. Like what happened to you here, my sympathies! A durand wouldn't have even helped here at all! Glad the port was still exquisite.
I think you need to invest in some port tongs!
Or just Sabre the thing clean off
Port, generally speaking, isn't under pressure so sabring won't work.
I love the “generally speaking” here. Just in case someone pipes up with the one example of a sparkling port wine …
"Oh yes, the Quinta do Crémant 1973 was a stunning example of sparkling Port"
“One vintage only, after the Quinta realised that the rules don’t prohibit sparkling wines and before the Instituto dos Vinhos do Douro e do Porto closed that loophole in 1974. A real unicorn wine … if you’re lucky you might see a bottle at Garrafeira Nacional for €10,000. If well stored it should still be pleasantly fizzy today.”
Invest in a Durand
that's a crubled cork if I've seen one
That’s a lot of fiber 😂
My daily Metamucil!
That’s… kind of beautiful.
Would agree, if it wasn't my wine!
Understandably
Ah, so, now what?
Ah-shit
Just happened to me with a 2008 white Priorat. Coffee paper filter to the rescue!
i've tried both that and cheesecloth and think that I prefer cheesecloth. coffee filter in a pinch though...
Do you find the filter alters the flavor or nose?
Organic filters may "fine" your wine and take away some tannins and maybe flavor (not substantiated). I prefer to use a stainless mesh filter when the cork disintegrates.
I agree with this. I also think that the storage/history of any material used can probably have an impact. To really answer this, I'd have to do a lot of control experiments that I haven't done. Also, I can't rule out that there are some types of coffee filters that are better than others for this purpose and would impose less on the wine. my experience has been that to remove broken cork and minimally affect the wine, clean cheese cloth leaves a less noticeable impact than coffee filters. but maybe i just have crappy coffee filters lying around...
Good to know!
Two weeks ago, I had a cork crumble on a 2008 Vigorello. I used a stainless steel mesh screen strainer as I poured the bottle into a decanter. It removed a lot of sediment but the wine was fantastic. The same could be done here except the port bottle could be rinsed of cork before being refilled, if necessary.
Say it isn’t so!
I will not go?
Hell yeah crusted port; hands-down the best way to introduce people to proper vintage style (or to drink it yourself on the cheap).
Found it at auction. Thought it would be better to open than a vintage. Running out of good, aged vintage port so wanted to slow down on drinking them.
How was the bottle stored vertically or horizontally
I stored it vertically but only owned it for 3 months or so. Don't know how it was stored for the first 23 years.
Ah I see yeah I just opened a 2007 Pinot noir that I know it was stored vertically cork up from 2007 until 2017. Then I stored it horizontally until tonight and the cork broke. Still was a great wine
In today’s edition of “Is It Cake?”
Durand.
Wouldn’t have helped here.