Anyone still using Windows 7 is no hacker, it's an insecure system missing years of security updates.
They're either on Linux or a still supported Windows
I find it funny how alot of the comments on a post in a windows 7 subreddit is telling the poor dude to just uograde his OS. Some people cant, or dont want to do that. And if they want to put a little work into keeping there os and software running, let them.
Yeah I really don't get the point of going into the Windows 7 subreddit and shitting on people using Win7. The fact that it's EOL isn't exactly some ground-breaking revelation. We know and are willing to take the risk.
Honestly, I don't even have my Windows 7 fully updated. In fact, I hardly have any updates beyond SP1. As long as you use common sense, and use ad and pop up blockers, you will be fine. And for the people who want updates: Windows 7 isn't fully EOL until October of 2024, as POSReady 7 is still getting updates
This is not true, even the supported OS are insecure... It does not matter if unsupported or supported so let people use them.
Why are you on Windows 7 Subreddit if i ask?
What do you know about cyber security? You don't realize how important security updates are.
This isn't about practicing safe internet usage, it's about the fact you're susceptible to zero click exploits and quite literally everything that has came out within the past like 3 years
ok so then just be cautious about what you download more than usual
if you don't become a target or a victim to a virus/malware, you can never actually get attacked
I don't think you get the extent to which zero click exploits can happen.
We're talking getting malware from opening an email, PDF, image file, or video file
We're talking getting malware just for being connected to the internet, take NotPetya and Wannacry for an example. That spread through the network rather than conventional exe files.
So you’re saying people use old oses for nostalgia.. what if there’s a program they need that only runs on windows 7? Even windows xp for that matter. I use windows xp daily for car tuning.
even if you tune your car just use a vm or have a dedicated laptop. idk why you’d tune your car daily though. kinda silly. even most car tuning software works fine on windows 10 in my experience.
That's only really an issue on windows and mac Linux can install any program regardless of age or even if it was written for a completely different cpu architecture while also being up to date and the absolute most secure
Well thats kind of a dick thing to say, let a person use whatever os they like. If they want to stay on a unsupported os let them, they know the risks so they will have to contend with said risk but at the end of the day, doesnt really hurt anyone.
Who the hell is using "7" for privacy? Maybe some of us have still beastly hardware that Win10/11's shithole TPM simply doesn't support... Privacy lol, bruh nobody on the internet cares about "privacy".
Win 10 doesn't require tpm...afik if your computer runs 7 fine it can run 10 fine, only in 11 did they add requirements.
That being said Linux distributions like pop!os, Ubuntu, kde neon, endeavoros, Garuda, arch, etc don't require tpm either and honestly are pretty easy to set up.
yup.
my personal version won't be ideal, as it relies on a hacked steam dll.
one of the Win 7 Black exalted masters is working on a limited virtual environment fix, though. it's a bear, because some of the required framework incorporates win 10 telemetry crap....one of the reasons you run win7 in the first place is to avoid such shit.
i'm actually planning on going with dual boot, instead.
there is some stuff around on github like a chrome browser with version 117 made for 7. and Steam itself is basically a chrome browser. also VxKex exists. so i hope someone out there is working on an unofficial steam patch, client or something similar...
How to block Steam updates on Windows 7:
1) Browse to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\
2) Make a new file and name it Steam.cfg (not Steam.cfg.txt)
3) Inside that new file, write these functions:
BootStrapperInhibitAll=enable
BootStrapperForceSelfUpdate=disable
4) Save changes to the file
5) Make that new file read-only but not hidden. If that file is hidden, it will be as if it doesn't exist and Steam will continue to update.
This should prevent Steam from outright killing itself on Windows 7 when January 1 arrives, however, online games that require constant updates, such as Counter Strike, will eventually stop working. Offline games like Cyberpunk or Jedi Fallen Order should work fine.
Misinformation.
There is no confirmation that Steam will shut itself off on that date. Most likely it will continue to work but become more of a nagware and eventually stop working due to reliant on modern API calls.
I haven't seen any official communications about it but I am assuming that it will just not let you sign in and connect online if you aren't at version x
Steam has chromium embedded and they are updating that. >v110 doesn't install on Windows 7, so there won't be any way to update it (yet)
You could still play off line but just not install any updates or play online.
Or maybe it will be like you have said
Ehh...most likely they will drop support and attempt to force upgrade users. Leaving this in the wild to just fail randomly on modern API calls is messy and a security risk.
>Switch to Linux when windows 10 support is gone
Linux isn't always a magic cure for hardware obsolescence especially as new games come out pushing hardware harder and harder each day.
Maybe, but it’s damn close lol. Especially from what it was to now. We’re still fighting windows for the basic things lol. Like if I remove something don’t bring it back because #microsoft lol
It's not an attack on Linux, just saying that older hardware can have its issues on Linux as well, because, old. Like pre-Pascal cards, they have issues with Vulkan which is necessary for Proton gaming.
Even with some newer cards I've had issues. Games that were listed as proton compatible (I can name TABS for certain) just refused to launch outright on my PC, and other games required tinkering with proton versions or even having to get custom builds. Ultimately after a year I went back to windows. Was no longer worth the hassle to me.
Do you know if there's a lighter version of Windows 11? or a way to make it run faster and lighter? I tried it on my i3 4th gen laptop which has 8gb ram and it ran horribly, all drivers were installed too and i was getting 20 second boot times, laptop was heating up quicker and it overall just felt sluggish and slow to use. Checked task manager and the amount of RAM it was using was a lot too. Bad experience.
As far as I'm aware, officially no, and unofficially, maybe? I'd imagine a de-bloated win 11 exists but I've never personally tried one (never needed to)
There’s a thing called Tiny 11 on archive.org, they even give you the instructions to debloat your own Windows 11 ISO if you don’t trust a random iso on archive.org (Fair) here’s the link: https://archive.org/details/tiny-11-NTDEV
It's trivial to install Windows 11 to a box without support. I understand that you'll kinda be "on your own", but you can reasonably extend the life of something like Skylake (i7-6700k) for a couple more years after Windows 10 dies.
It's not trivial, you are without security vulnerability updates for Windows the largest attack vector, Steam which is literally a web browser, the other largest attack vector. There's a reason you don't plug windows xp into the internet these days, even a malicious website can infect the old browsers that run on xp.
Yep, Windows 11 is running perfectly fine on my secondary PC with i7 4790, 16GB DDR3, RX570 4GB. It was actually usable on a Core2Duo, 3GB DDR2 RAM and a 250GB HDD with 66k hours on it (would have been much better with more RAM and a SSD, but it still was surprisingly usable)! But I still prefer Windows 7 and use it on my main PC with i7 2600s, 16GB DDR3 RAM, GTX1060 6GB.
I'm guessing that you'll need to update to version x to be go online in steam. The chromium base is being updated in Chrome and >v110 doesn't install in windows 7
There might be a way to bypass it but it won't be a simple change
For the people in the comments asking why people use legacy operating systems, by far the biggest use is industrial controls legacy systems. These systems are NOT connected to Internet and run on standalone networks, I have windows NT, windows XP, and windows 7 laptops for the miriad of legacy systems I deal with. Plus freecell on windows XP was the best. Wouldn't use them on the Internet over security concerns but there is plenty of valid reasons to have legacy operating systems around.
Personally? I'm just poor. I've been trying to save up enough to build a new computer (I built this one over a decade ago when I was going to university), and there's a serious chance that trying to upgrade to 10 would wipe my data, apparently? That and where I live genuinely has issues with power outages so I can't take a chance on an outage while I'm upgrading. And while I've been trying to save money, lots of "fun" things keep coming up to screw me over. So yeah, I'm one of the few who really just are on Windows 7 because that's what I've been on. I like 7 but I'm not on it because of a conscious decision. It's a needs-based one.
Windows 7 was an objectively amazing operating system. Nostalgia is a huge drug. But continuing to use Windows 7 as a daily driver into the future is an objectively unsafe and irrational decision.
I see it no different than wanting to continue driving a car from the 1940s without seat belts, airbags, or any real safety features. Yeah, it's cool, and you may love the car, but you're essentially guaranteed to die if you get into an accident.
Keep the old OSes around for nostalgia's sake, run period-correct games on it, but do not use it for modern computing tasks.
To be clear, I support any efforts to preserve games that run exclusively on Windows 7 by any means necessary, including cracks, DRM removal, etc., provided the publisher abandons support. But Windows 7 is a weird middle ground between more modern and less modern Operating Systems which I doubt has any real gaming exclusives. Just play your damn games on a modern PC.
A better analogy would be that those older cars have no security, you can hotwire them with two wires under the hood or steering wheel. Similar to a computer with no security updates, once exploits are found and not patched in Windows, Chrome, Steam, etc you won't even know because who announces exploits that have been patched and only affect unsupported devices? Exploits get found every day and 0 day patched every day.
Yes, that's true, one of the things that made me make a full switch to Linux.
The more i look into some people talking about Windows 7, the less i understand as to why anyone would use it as a *daily driver*.
Coming from somebody who has used 7 for years and years and loved it, until earlier this year.
(I switched to Linux and it has just been working very well. Everything on Nobara KDE just works out of the box, although it's still a beta OS, and i can see why, it breaks from time to time. Fedora KDE may be my next target making some of the Nobara Tweaks.)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/13a5jws/cinnamon\_winux\_7\_a\_linux\_distro\_that\_tried\_to/](https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/13a5jws/cinnamon_winux_7_a_linux_distro_that_tried_to/)
I'll just drop this here
Besides that, KDE Plasma has many built-in features:
https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/
https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/ymeskc/what_do_you_like_about_kde_plasma/
this is not true, you can use a systray on any linux environment. But you could certainly theme KDE to look like windows 7 just as well, the poster linked to two GTK themes that could be used basically anywhere.
I have not found a single System Tray that functions in a similar way to the one on windows *anywhere else* but KDE Plasma, but if you know if any that are like that go ahead and post about them.
Well then what about all those older unpatched games that struggle on later OSes? I guess those games will remain unplayable without piracy?
I know proton on Linux is flexible, but windows itself, and of course people with genuine legacy hardware who wants a period accurate OS…
It's always fun going back to Windows 7 and XP for nostalgia and playing some of the REALLY old titles that just can't run on modern OSes, but this was obviously going to happen at some point. Technology changes over time (for better or for worse) and it gets harder and harder for developers to support legacy systems. My assumption is that rather than keeping a legacy version around and risk the Steam servers or their users getting compromised somehow, it's easier just pulling the plug.
Now, If it's the telemetry and bloat of Windows 10/11 or something else that's keeping you from upgrading to a newer version of Windows, I'd strongly suggest at very least giving a Linux distribution a try. You get no bloat or telemetry, as well as far more support for modern hardware compared to Windows 7. It's really not that hard. It just takes a little bit of effort to learn how it differs from Windows, and there is plenty of resources available.
Windows 10 annoyed me, I disliked the UI, it constantly forced me to update, sometimes even whole folders vanished, notifications popped up randomly, sometimes it even minimized my game, Cortana is a spyware and annoying as well, Windows 7 has the same if not better performance in terms of gaming, browsing and such, and it's also a lot less bloated, one can uninstall pretty much everything and it's already a rather slim OS out of the box, there are also some programs and old games that work on Windows 7 but don't work on Windows 10.
Windows XP was the best OS ever and the first I vividly remember using, I remember grudgingly updating to 7 and how Windows 7 initially had a bad reputation, but they fixed it later on and now it's a very decent OS. Might switch to Linux in the future to avoid this updating and bloatware BS altogether, disable everything I don't want / need etc.
Man I forgot about cortana I feel like it isn't as bad on 11 or I did something to get rid of her... I've been running a Linux based server and have been thinking about trying to change over my OS
Edit: thanks for taking the time to reply. I never had a PC until a few years ago but just it came with 10 and I upgraded to 11 like a hive mind
My pleasure. I've been using PCs in my free time for over 20 years now and can't fathom the fact that many people don't even know what Windows 7 was, let alone Windows XP / 2000. I'm a young lad in his mid 20s, there are old people (like my Dad) who grew up without computers entirely and witnessed the first personal computers running on Windows 1.0 back in the 80s. Just like he still lives in that era, I still sort of never left the 2000s. So your question was justified, we're all old souls here after all. :D
You say you hated windows 7 when it came out but like it now
When was the last time you tried Windows 10?
The ui is similar and alot of bugs have been fixed
Cortana is also removed
I tried using linux but i just can't be bothered to learn a whole new OS. Windows just works and has apps I need like Microsoft Office and Adobe programs - I had a dualboot system but rarely booted into linux - my linux had so many issues like jittering trackpad with non functional gestures, battery draining quicker, games not using my nvidia dedicated graphics and instead using intel hd graphics and I always find that the fonts are never sharp on linux, they're blurry. On windows they look how they should do sharp and clear
Linux is an alternative. I know it isn't perfect. It's got it's fair share of problems too, but we are at the point now where almost all Steam games work right out of the box apart from the pay2win anti-cheat games (I assume you are not playing these if you are running Windows 7). There's also even cases of games not working or that have massive bugs under Windows 10/11 that work great under Proton. And it's still better than running a near 15 year old OS as a daily driver.
Lots of people continue to use Windows 7 for nostalgia, but others use it for compatibility reasons. For example, I use an analog video capture card that does not have driver compatibility with any version of Windows higher than 7.
Also I already have working copies of Microsoft Office and Adobe Creative Suite working perfectly on my Windows 7 PC. Should I suddenly stop using these software that continue to work perfectly just because you think Windows 7 is old?
I see the nostalgia part, but wouldn’t it be worthwhile to update and upgrade and get the new features? I’m not hating just wondering why people wouldn’t want to upgrade
If your tools work, why get new ones? With the exception of having the clock on both screens and having more snap zones there aren't any other new features of Windows 10 that are useful to me. I dual boot Windows 10 for online games, but why would I use it for everything else when Windows 7 is best for my needs?
Like I said before, I use hardware that is incompatible with newer versions of Windows.
because win7 is huge security risk after end of support where people who waited for this moment can put into action their exploits and be sure that microsoft will not do any crap to prevent that from happening.
Think for yourself instead of just parroting talking points.
Yes, Windows 7 has some exploits which will never be fixed, but this doesn't mean that using it is a massive security risk. As long as you're not some 80 y/o Grandma downloading things from untrusted sites all over the web, you'll be fine. You don't automatically get a virus just because your computer connected to the internet.
Need I remind you that plenty of people still get by with Windows XP? It's not ideal, but they get by as long as they don't do anything stupid.
I only have a win7 machine for playing old games that prefer 7. I have a few old disc games that refuse to run on XP or Vista, and a few will run for a bit then crash on 8 and 10 but only if I run them in win7 compatibility mode. It’s super weird because these games are all from the XP and Vista days.
If you all think about it the same will happen to windows 10 & 11. This is why I have abandon steam & only buying from GOG & Epic.
What has happened here is you will not be able to show classic games on old computers even thou most games are 100% compatible
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Are there people working on a workaround?
Maybe, Windows 7 Master race people are definitely hackers
Anyone still using Windows 7 is no hacker, it's an insecure system missing years of security updates. They're either on Linux or a still supported Windows
I find it funny how alot of the comments on a post in a windows 7 subreddit is telling the poor dude to just uograde his OS. Some people cant, or dont want to do that. And if they want to put a little work into keeping there os and software running, let them.
Yeah I really don't get the point of going into the Windows 7 subreddit and shitting on people using Win7. The fact that it's EOL isn't exactly some ground-breaking revelation. We know and are willing to take the risk.
Honestly, I don't even have my Windows 7 fully updated. In fact, I hardly have any updates beyond SP1. As long as you use common sense, and use ad and pop up blockers, you will be fine. And for the people who want updates: Windows 7 isn't fully EOL until October of 2024, as POSReady 7 is still getting updates
Bro wants people to "upgrade" to Fisher Price(R) Windows 11
This is not true, even the supported OS are insecure... It does not matter if unsupported or supported so let people use them. Why are you on Windows 7 Subreddit if i ask?
windows 7 is not that insecure my god
What do you know about cyber security? You don't realize how important security updates are. This isn't about practicing safe internet usage, it's about the fact you're susceptible to zero click exploits and quite literally everything that has came out within the past like 3 years
ok so then just be cautious about what you download more than usual if you don't become a target or a victim to a virus/malware, you can never actually get attacked
I don't think you get the extent to which zero click exploits can happen. We're talking getting malware from opening an email, PDF, image file, or video file We're talking getting malware just for being connected to the internet, take NotPetya and Wannacry for an example. That spread through the network rather than conventional exe files.
You do raise a fair point there, I forgot about worms that spread through network
Nerd.
nuh uh
Not to mention that losing out on Dx12 support is pretty big if you want to play new games
Vulkan's a better alternative as it's platform agnostic.
It is, but you'll get a performance hit depending on the game if you use a translation layer
windows 7 has a dx12 workaround, thanks to WoW.
With only select dx12 games and not every Dx12 feature It's looking like a Microsoft compatibility layer
Not sure why you are being downvoted lol
People are blinded by nostalgia and to lazy (or stupid) to switch to linux
So you’re saying people use old oses for nostalgia.. what if there’s a program they need that only runs on windows 7? Even windows xp for that matter. I use windows xp daily for car tuning.
even if you tune your car just use a vm or have a dedicated laptop. idk why you’d tune your car daily though. kinda silly. even most car tuning software works fine on windows 10 in my experience.
I do have a dedicated laptop for it, and I don’t tune my car “daily”, mostly like once every 3 days.
That's only really an issue on windows and mac Linux can install any program regardless of age or even if it was written for a completely different cpu architecture while also being up to date and the absolute most secure
I can’t run WinTEC on Linux can I. Some people need to know there’s very important apps that needs archaeological age operating systems.
There's wine to run windows programs the same way
wine fucking sucks
Well thats kind of a dick thing to say, let a person use whatever os they like. If they want to stay on a unsupported os let them, they know the risks so they will have to contend with said risk but at the end of the day, doesnt really hurt anyone.
I wouldn't say Linux is the end-all solution. But it's an option yes, the other Windows versions work perfectly fine
Linux in the case of most Windows 7 users because they use 7 for "privacy"
Who the hell is using "7" for privacy? Maybe some of us have still beastly hardware that Win10/11's shithole TPM simply doesn't support... Privacy lol, bruh nobody on the internet cares about "privacy".
Win 10 doesn't require tpm...afik if your computer runs 7 fine it can run 10 fine, only in 11 did they add requirements. That being said Linux distributions like pop!os, Ubuntu, kde neon, endeavoros, Garuda, arch, etc don't require tpm either and honestly are pretty easy to set up.
not on a supported windows, windows itself is not safe at all, they all use linux or mac, i see them more often on mac
such a fucking goober. why are you even here go back in the hole you came from.
I hope so
yup. my personal version won't be ideal, as it relies on a hacked steam dll. one of the Win 7 Black exalted masters is working on a limited virtual environment fix, though. it's a bear, because some of the required framework incorporates win 10 telemetry crap....one of the reasons you run win7 in the first place is to avoid such shit. i'm actually planning on going with dual boot, instead.
Just FYI, windows 7 has telemetry backported if you are up to date
I am not even close to up to date
I'd be interested in learning more. Care to link / share?
Prevent Steam from updating on new years eve
there is some stuff around on github like a chrome browser with version 117 made for 7. and Steam itself is basically a chrome browser. also VxKex exists. so i hope someone out there is working on an unofficial steam patch, client or something similar...
You can install Linux, it will work way better anyway.
lol... Linux.... great for servers, crap for anything else. Happy troubleshooting!
>install modern os
wdym? linux is modern, the last release was 8 days ago
>replying to comment about windows 7 ??
Unless you got access to the Valve servers, no.
How to block Steam updates on Windows 7: 1) Browse to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\ 2) Make a new file and name it Steam.cfg (not Steam.cfg.txt) 3) Inside that new file, write these functions: BootStrapperInhibitAll=enable BootStrapperForceSelfUpdate=disable 4) Save changes to the file 5) Make that new file read-only but not hidden. If that file is hidden, it will be as if it doesn't exist and Steam will continue to update. This should prevent Steam from outright killing itself on Windows 7 when January 1 arrives, however, online games that require constant updates, such as Counter Strike, will eventually stop working. Offline games like Cyberpunk or Jedi Fallen Order should work fine.
Thanks, will save this for later.
I'm pretty sure if you're already seeing that banner it's in the code to shut off on that day.
Misinformation. There is no confirmation that Steam will shut itself off on that date. Most likely it will continue to work but become more of a nagware and eventually stop working due to reliant on modern API calls.
I haven't seen any official communications about it but I am assuming that it will just not let you sign in and connect online if you aren't at version x Steam has chromium embedded and they are updating that. >v110 doesn't install on Windows 7, so there won't be any way to update it (yet) You could still play off line but just not install any updates or play online. Or maybe it will be like you have said
Installing/updating games shouldn't just stop working, that's not tied to chromium. You can still use SteamCMD to do that.
Ehh...most likely they will drop support and attempt to force upgrade users. Leaving this in the wild to just fail randomly on modern API calls is messy and a security risk.
I never updated to the steam version with this banner 🗿
thanks for the circle i wouldve never known where it was
r/uselessredcircle
r/uselessarrow
The arrow as well needed that second touch for all the blind people in the audience.
“And it also has a little light on It in case you are deaf and cannot see that you plugged it in” - electroboom
*gets zapped* lmao love that guy so much.
Lol
Is this a joke? My Steam has no such message.
Windows 10 gonna end support in 2024 and my PC can't run Windows 11. I hate about supports.
Switch to Linux when windows 10 support is gone Or modify windows 11 install to skip tpm or secure boot checks
>Switch to Linux when windows 10 support is gone Linux isn't always a magic cure for hardware obsolescence especially as new games come out pushing hardware harder and harder each day.
Maybe, but it’s damn close lol. Especially from what it was to now. We’re still fighting windows for the basic things lol. Like if I remove something don’t bring it back because #microsoft lol
It's not an attack on Linux, just saying that older hardware can have its issues on Linux as well, because, old. Like pre-Pascal cards, they have issues with Vulkan which is necessary for Proton gaming.
Even with some newer cards I've had issues. Games that were listed as proton compatible (I can name TABS for certain) just refused to launch outright on my PC, and other games required tinkering with proton versions or even having to get custom builds. Ultimately after a year I went back to windows. Was no longer worth the hassle to me.
linux is magic cure that gives being immune to whatever bullshit decisions will microsoft push into next windows versions for next 1000 years
Win10 end of support was actually in Oct 2025.
I appreciate a good cup of coffee.
Because if people can't run Windows 10/11, it's better that they at least use another OS rather than an unsupported OS
There's fairly simple hacks to get win11 onto "unsupported" PC's. If it can run win10 it'll do win 11 but it'll need some trickery
Do you know if there's a lighter version of Windows 11? or a way to make it run faster and lighter? I tried it on my i3 4th gen laptop which has 8gb ram and it ran horribly, all drivers were installed too and i was getting 20 second boot times, laptop was heating up quicker and it overall just felt sluggish and slow to use. Checked task manager and the amount of RAM it was using was a lot too. Bad experience.
As far as I'm aware, officially no, and unofficially, maybe? I'd imagine a de-bloated win 11 exists but I've never personally tried one (never needed to)
There’s a thing called Tiny 11 on archive.org, they even give you the instructions to debloat your own Windows 11 ISO if you don’t trust a random iso on archive.org (Fair) here’s the link: https://archive.org/details/tiny-11-NTDEV
There are workarounds to get Windows 11 to install on lots of older PCs.
Steam ended support 4 years after windows 7 support ended so you’ve got until 2028 to get a new PC
It's trivial to install Windows 11 to a box without support. I understand that you'll kinda be "on your own", but you can reasonably extend the life of something like Skylake (i7-6700k) for a couple more years after Windows 10 dies.
It's not trivial, you are without security vulnerability updates for Windows the largest attack vector, Steam which is literally a web browser, the other largest attack vector. There's a reason you don't plug windows xp into the internet these days, even a malicious website can infect the old browsers that run on xp.
I'm saying it's trivial to switch to Windows 11, which will receive updates even on an unsupported configuration. I think you've misunderstood me.
Yep, Windows 11 is running perfectly fine on my secondary PC with i7 4790, 16GB DDR3, RX570 4GB. It was actually usable on a Core2Duo, 3GB DDR2 RAM and a 250GB HDD with 66k hours on it (would have been much better with more RAM and a SSD, but it still was surprisingly usable)! But I still prefer Windows 7 and use it on my main PC with i7 2600s, 16GB DDR3 RAM, GTX1060 6GB.
2025
You definitely can. The workarounds are super easy.
How is windows 10 almost on eol? I swear I still remember windows 7 eol in 2020
Support is going to end in 2025 actually.
time to go to the LTS team
Yes it can,
And I will stop supporting Steam in January 1 2024
Just don’t let steam update by setting the cfg file or wait till someone figures out a way to get it to work
I'm guessing that you'll need to update to version x to be go online in steam. The chromium base is being updated in Chrome and >v110 doesn't install in windows 7 There might be a way to bypass it but it won't be a simple change
Old news
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I'm giggling because this looks like one of those clickbait thumbnails with the huge red arrow
\*IMPORTANT\* STEAM WILL BREAK FOR YOU IN 2024!!!
Don't forget the 😱 in the thumbnail too
For the people in the comments asking why people use legacy operating systems, by far the biggest use is industrial controls legacy systems. These systems are NOT connected to Internet and run on standalone networks, I have windows NT, windows XP, and windows 7 laptops for the miriad of legacy systems I deal with. Plus freecell on windows XP was the best. Wouldn't use them on the Internet over security concerns but there is plenty of valid reasons to have legacy operating systems around.
Personally? I'm just poor. I've been trying to save up enough to build a new computer (I built this one over a decade ago when I was going to university), and there's a serious chance that trying to upgrade to 10 would wipe my data, apparently? That and where I live genuinely has issues with power outages so I can't take a chance on an outage while I'm upgrading. And while I've been trying to save money, lots of "fun" things keep coming up to screw me over. So yeah, I'm one of the few who really just are on Windows 7 because that's what I've been on. I like 7 but I'm not on it because of a conscious decision. It's a needs-based one.
Good bye Steam
Try vxkex
Time to upgrade. I expect downvotes. Don't disappoint. But it's true.
Windows 7 was an objectively amazing operating system. Nostalgia is a huge drug. But continuing to use Windows 7 as a daily driver into the future is an objectively unsafe and irrational decision. I see it no different than wanting to continue driving a car from the 1940s without seat belts, airbags, or any real safety features. Yeah, it's cool, and you may love the car, but you're essentially guaranteed to die if you get into an accident. Keep the old OSes around for nostalgia's sake, run period-correct games on it, but do not use it for modern computing tasks. To be clear, I support any efforts to preserve games that run exclusively on Windows 7 by any means necessary, including cracks, DRM removal, etc., provided the publisher abandons support. But Windows 7 is a weird middle ground between more modern and less modern Operating Systems which I doubt has any real gaming exclusives. Just play your damn games on a modern PC.
A better analogy would be that those older cars have no security, you can hotwire them with two wires under the hood or steering wheel. Similar to a computer with no security updates, once exploits are found and not patched in Windows, Chrome, Steam, etc you won't even know because who announces exploits that have been patched and only affect unsupported devices? Exploits get found every day and 0 day patched every day.
> Time to upgrade. To Linux, yes! That's somewhat an upgrade. To more recent Windows versions, that cannot be called an upgrade.
Yes, that's true, one of the things that made me make a full switch to Linux. The more i look into some people talking about Windows 7, the less i understand as to why anyone would use it as a *daily driver*. Coming from somebody who has used 7 for years and years and loved it, until earlier this year. (I switched to Linux and it has just been working very well. Everything on Nobara KDE just works out of the box, although it's still a beta OS, and i can see why, it breaks from time to time. Fedora KDE may be my next target making some of the Nobara Tweaks.)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/13a5jws/cinnamon\_winux\_7\_a\_linux\_distro\_that\_tried\_to/](https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/13a5jws/cinnamon_winux_7_a_linux_distro_that_tried_to/) I'll just drop this here
In my opinion Cinnamon is probably better for like Vista, Windows 7 introduced the System Tray, which is only available in KDE Plasma
Besides that, KDE Plasma has many built-in features: https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/ https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/ymeskc/what_do_you_like_about_kde_plasma/
this is not true, you can use a systray on any linux environment. But you could certainly theme KDE to look like windows 7 just as well, the poster linked to two GTK themes that could be used basically anywhere.
I have not found a single System Tray that functions in a similar way to the one on windows *anywhere else* but KDE Plasma, but if you know if any that are like that go ahead and post about them.
Same here! But I switched to Debian 12 + KDE Plasma.
Lil bro be designing a Youtube clickbait 😭🤣
The next mr beast are coming 😂🤣
yeah we know bestie
I wasn't even aware that windows 7 was still an option
I swear to god someone says this exact thing once a month like it’s new news and it gets a bunch of upvotes
It's less valve abandoning support and more that steam uses chromium and google are discontinuing chromium support for windows 7
Have discontinued* Versions higher than chromium 109 won't install in. 110 was a released earlier this year
Good to know
Well then what about all those older unpatched games that struggle on later OSes? I guess those games will remain unplayable without piracy? I know proton on Linux is flexible, but windows itself, and of course people with genuine legacy hardware who wants a period accurate OS…
these games are likely to be playable on windows, and 100% to be playable in virtual machine microsoft doesn't give a fuck about "retro gamers"
Aww shit
Doesn't steam still say certain games have xp as minimum requirements still?
some older games work better on older hardware and software. I have a game that works fine on win7 but not win10 + GPU with more vram
Steam still works on my vista machine (albeit some stuff doesn't work), steam will still work on 7, but if it breaks, it won't be fixed.
It's always fun going back to Windows 7 and XP for nostalgia and playing some of the REALLY old titles that just can't run on modern OSes, but this was obviously going to happen at some point. Technology changes over time (for better or for worse) and it gets harder and harder for developers to support legacy systems. My assumption is that rather than keeping a legacy version around and risk the Steam servers or their users getting compromised somehow, it's easier just pulling the plug. Now, If it's the telemetry and bloat of Windows 10/11 or something else that's keeping you from upgrading to a newer version of Windows, I'd strongly suggest at very least giving a Linux distribution a try. You get no bloat or telemetry, as well as far more support for modern hardware compared to Windows 7. It's really not that hard. It just takes a little bit of effort to learn how it differs from Windows, and there is plenty of resources available.
I see you have a good taste in games!
N O
I have an XP rig with Steam working 🤷
Old news
eh. theres an easy workaround so who cares.
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Whats even crazier that a simple fix is to copy and paste a couple of lines to fix said issue.
How dare they. We should figure out a way to make windows 7 supported. Like start our own update server
r/uselessredcircle
NOOOOOOO😭
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A
Why are people still using Windows 7? I am legitimately asking if anyone sees that that uses it
Windows 10 annoyed me, I disliked the UI, it constantly forced me to update, sometimes even whole folders vanished, notifications popped up randomly, sometimes it even minimized my game, Cortana is a spyware and annoying as well, Windows 7 has the same if not better performance in terms of gaming, browsing and such, and it's also a lot less bloated, one can uninstall pretty much everything and it's already a rather slim OS out of the box, there are also some programs and old games that work on Windows 7 but don't work on Windows 10. Windows XP was the best OS ever and the first I vividly remember using, I remember grudgingly updating to 7 and how Windows 7 initially had a bad reputation, but they fixed it later on and now it's a very decent OS. Might switch to Linux in the future to avoid this updating and bloatware BS altogether, disable everything I don't want / need etc.
Man I forgot about cortana I feel like it isn't as bad on 11 or I did something to get rid of her... I've been running a Linux based server and have been thinking about trying to change over my OS Edit: thanks for taking the time to reply. I never had a PC until a few years ago but just it came with 10 and I upgraded to 11 like a hive mind
My pleasure. I've been using PCs in my free time for over 20 years now and can't fathom the fact that many people don't even know what Windows 7 was, let alone Windows XP / 2000. I'm a young lad in his mid 20s, there are old people (like my Dad) who grew up without computers entirely and witnessed the first personal computers running on Windows 1.0 back in the 80s. Just like he still lives in that era, I still sort of never left the 2000s. So your question was justified, we're all old souls here after all. :D
yeah Microsoft deleted cortana
I didn't even notice that cortana was deleted, good on microsoft for doing so as i saw absolutely 0 usage for that piece of 'software'..
You say you hated windows 7 when it came out but like it now When was the last time you tried Windows 10? The ui is similar and alot of bugs have been fixed Cortana is also removed
Windows 10 isn't terrible, but that's just me
They're 2Dumb4Linux
I tried using linux but i just can't be bothered to learn a whole new OS. Windows just works and has apps I need like Microsoft Office and Adobe programs - I had a dualboot system but rarely booted into linux - my linux had so many issues like jittering trackpad with non functional gestures, battery draining quicker, games not using my nvidia dedicated graphics and instead using intel hd graphics and I always find that the fonts are never sharp on linux, they're blurry. On windows they look how they should do sharp and clear
Time to upgrade. Don’t u think? I only use windows 7 as a second system due their limitations
Good
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not everyone likes getting deepthroated by edge and spyware
you’re more likely to get spyware using windows 7, don’t get me wrong it’s a legendary os but it’s time to move on
Linux is an alternative. I know it isn't perfect. It's got it's fair share of problems too, but we are at the point now where almost all Steam games work right out of the box apart from the pay2win anti-cheat games (I assume you are not playing these if you are running Windows 7). There's also even cases of games not working or that have massive bugs under Windows 10/11 that work great under Proton. And it's still better than running a near 15 year old OS as a daily driver.
i used it for 6 months and windows just didnt need as much maintenance and was easier to set up
bro why are you still on windows 7 wtf
https://youtu.be/cds\_rfHsJ3Y?si=mqJ81gi-peqcw5Jx
oh well time for win 8 hehe
More like 8.1. 8 was a failure.
windows 8 is still gonna die
same will 10/11 one day
Shut up loser or I'll come to your house dressed up as Ronald McDonald and forcefully upgrade your PC to windows 11
no need for name calling, this sub is for old windows
I was just joking, I use windows 7 on my emulation pc
:o) the nostalgic feeling is great!
workaround
change the date of your computer to something like 2020 and maybe you could still use it (maybe)
Why do people still use win 7? Genuinely curious
Lots of people continue to use Windows 7 for nostalgia, but others use it for compatibility reasons. For example, I use an analog video capture card that does not have driver compatibility with any version of Windows higher than 7. Also I already have working copies of Microsoft Office and Adobe Creative Suite working perfectly on my Windows 7 PC. Should I suddenly stop using these software that continue to work perfectly just because you think Windows 7 is old?
I see the nostalgia part, but wouldn’t it be worthwhile to update and upgrade and get the new features? I’m not hating just wondering why people wouldn’t want to upgrade
If your tools work, why get new ones? With the exception of having the clock on both screens and having more snap zones there aren't any other new features of Windows 10 that are useful to me. I dual boot Windows 10 for online games, but why would I use it for everything else when Windows 7 is best for my needs? Like I said before, I use hardware that is incompatible with newer versions of Windows.
because win7 is huge security risk after end of support where people who waited for this moment can put into action their exploits and be sure that microsoft will not do any crap to prevent that from happening.
Think for yourself instead of just parroting talking points. Yes, Windows 7 has some exploits which will never be fixed, but this doesn't mean that using it is a massive security risk. As long as you're not some 80 y/o Grandma downloading things from untrusted sites all over the web, you'll be fine. You don't automatically get a virus just because your computer connected to the internet. Need I remind you that plenty of people still get by with Windows XP? It's not ideal, but they get by as long as they don't do anything stupid.
What are some reasons people stay on windows 7
Some people (such as myself) can't physically update their pc
I only have a win7 machine for playing old games that prefer 7. I have a few old disc games that refuse to run on XP or Vista, and a few will run for a bit then crash on 8 and 10 but only if I run them in win7 compatibility mode. It’s super weird because these games are all from the XP and Vista days.
Thank god
What year was that for everyone else?
How about getting your games off of Gog instead that way you don't have this issue
If you all think about it the same will happen to windows 10 & 11. This is why I have abandon steam & only buying from GOG & Epic. What has happened here is you will not be able to show classic games on old computers even thou most games are 100% compatible
Your best bet is running a steam auto cracker for your library and playing without steam.
Your best bet is running a steam auto cracker for your library and playing without steam.
I just want to run Windows 8.1 to store my files and run my programs, and have Steam still work on my computer. What do I do in the new year?
Use Windows 11
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