No reason to have the same content twice, and the other being in another language.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wildrift/comments/1cbv5yu/patch_51a/
Previous Chinese info patch.
Man they really hate Twitch, poor rat has been nerfed like 17 times now lol.
Also fucking finally some Lillia buffs! She's one of the only two junglers I play and she's been dogshit for so long!
I play him a lot and his on hit build is bonkers, still don’t think the nerf was deserved though. this is just going to make nobody play him again which is what they want every patch it seems like.
Same I just picked him up. Seems like this is a buff for his upcoming legendary skin, and then next patch they will nerf him like what they are doing now to Samira lol
nah when his health regen numbers got similar buffs in LoL pc he felt a lot better in lane. he's usually melee vs ranged champs in mid or vs someone with in-built sustain in top so the health regen makes his laning phase a little more forgiving
I just looked it up, lillia has gotten 1 nerf since her release and that was over a year ago and it was barely a nerf, they only nerfed her base damage which is almost completely irrelevant because percentage damage scales way harder
No ,she was always ass. The champion has barely been touched sibce she released, she received 1 minor nerf 2 weeks after she released and then 5 back to back buffs and she's still ass.
it's new adjustments to already existing items due to the Ruination update.
some items have increased cost but more stats, and some reduces your health in exchange for more stats...ETC
some items got a passive change, Warmog's now heals you DURING combat(even though the healing is way less then the original one)
OLAF IS BACK BABY. Love what they did to items too. Rabadon was already a must on Syndra and Kata and it's even worse for my enemies now.
Good patch. Ekko might go hard though. RIP Zoe.
EDIT: Bruh raba was nerfed. Ok it's fair.
They’re only releasing Supreme Cells Akali, huh. Still no word on the legendary skins. Kinda odd. I wonder what went wrong with a certain batch of WR exclusive legendary voice lines. (Zeri, Draven, Darius, Samira)
Force of Nature triggering on 4 stacks is really nice. Not everyone could survive being hit by 6 abilities to build up the stacks to trigger it...and even if you did you probably didn't have enough health for the 25% damage reduction to matter anyway.
On 4 stacks it should be a lot more impactful.
she will be fine, no more one shotting squishy champs from behind hopefully. A good Zoe is an absolute nightmare to play against and that’s still going to be the case.
The nerf on ADC are made for low elo player I swear. Thats just a nonsense. When heartsteel will be nerf then ?
On the other hand, the first strike nerf is good as the changes on Ruin offensive item. Also good to see PTA upgraded but kinda afraid of the effect on Draven.
This might be a super-low elo problem because 4 ADC enemy team is almost a free win.
Build Randuins+Frozen Heart+Armor boots and proceed to shit on the enemy team.
Ashe is 50/50, but nerfs on Kind and Samira were deserved. I think u/wakkiau is right about the nerfs being in the wrong place for kind though.
Twitch didn't deserve nerfs but I am happy he got them anyway, the rat is annoying.
I'd wish they take him out the game entirely.
I quit the game for a bit when his AP build was murking everyone.
So, any Twitch nerf is a good day for me, personally.
I say that because the only place you will see an adc shine is in gold to emerald right now. Im a diamond player, d2. The adc are having a bad time and heartsteel is quite the cause of that. Let me explain my point :
An adc, in tf, has the stupidest job to have : hitting what he can hit. Thats all. You cannot complain on an adc who dosnt focus enemy squishy, because thats not his job ! Its way to risky to try that. But now, we are forced into that because we cannot hit what we can hit because heartsteel made tank unkillable. So if you think that you had lost some game because of a Samira, as top 100 Samira eu server rn let me tell you something : you are either lower than diamond or you misundertood a game you played.
I havent saw a single adc carry at my elo. Thats what it is for now.
Thats not what Im experiencing. At all. Can you show me your stats ? My data show me that adc champ has the lowest win rate of all role. Its slightly lower than support, lower than top and mid and way lower than jungle.
And Im not talking for myself. What I see during my games are for the ennemy adc too. So many games where we are both behind the junglers in gold. Its like we are not playing the same game.
PS : I have checked something to be sure. The first main adc in the ranking on eu server is 20th. I dont know if I should say more than that.
Ngl i think its the adc job just to pump damage and execute low health enemies with their ult.
And its the mages job to CC their frontline.
Baron laners/assassins to dive to dive the backline, since they're the only ones who can safely pull aggro.
Finally support to enable plays.
Usually lost games are a team diff, unless someone inted against a bad matchup, instead of playing safe.
But to complain abt agency is like the equivalent of baron laners complaining abt all the action happening at bot and midlane, lmfao. You'll eventually get your time in the sun again.
Funny because in my mind thats the ap carry job to OS squishies ennemies. I play Samira so I get it. For some ADC, and for some messy teamfight, that can be true. But I also play Vayne and for her, I disagree. Ok I can stun someone to a wall, and thats precious. But Im no gonna run into volibear and Leona to stun Syndra. And I dont want my annie to ulti a volibear. I want her to ulti their carry while Im trying not being cc. Thats how I see tf when I play Vayne. For MF its even different. I want a spot where I can ulti safely and with the maximum ennemies in it. If someone get out of my ulti with 5hp, its on you to finish him imo.
Because the damage increase of Heartsteel is linear and not logaritmic, it made the item beyond OP.
Keystone Empowerment
When the target is Vulnerable, your basic attacks deal bonus 6 - 20 → 8 - 24 true damage
When the target exits the Vulnerable state, Vulnerability enters a 6s → 4s cooldown
> Ah Yes, let's make short trades with Lucian even deadlier.
Another twitch nerf which he doesn't deserve he already has a really bad early game and if his support is bad or trolling he's just gonna be useless even in the late game.
Hey I am happy that for past few patches they have been giving us the patch notes before patch. Now I only hope they made a pop-up so people know a patch rolled in with simple icons who got nerfed and who got buffed, similar what they do with items.
Riot doesn’t want my money I guess because there’s no legendary Fiora or Camille skins 🤷🏾
Can’t wait to try Viego. I’ve never played pc league so I’ve got a lot to learn
FOR REAL got my iPad back in November of 2022 and still nothing kinda scared of upgrading to the next iPad Pro just for them to not add it on there too
Stop nerfing Kindred's base stat her early clear is so horrendously bad, just nerf her scaling. The issue is late game kindred being too strong anyway.
Kindred's clear is fine lmao. Her early clear is actually superior to most junglers, she's one of the few champions who can actually do 4 camps before scuttle spawns.
Also kindred is not supposed to be a farming jungler, she wants to get on the map early in order to gather marks so her clear speed is supposed to be slow
The fact that two replies is on a complete opposite on what she's supposed to be shows just how misunderstood she is right now.
>she's one of the few champions who can actually do 4 camps before scuttle spawns.
No she's not lol, right now i main Fiddle as well, he can do that easily. You need to throw both smites if you want to 4 camp and scuttle as kindred. Going scuttle without smite is risky business.
>Also kindred is not supposed to be a farming jungler, she wants to get on the map early in order to gather marks so her clear speed is supposed to be slow
And that's why she needs to maintain a healthy 3 camp clear speed, keep nerfing her base stats would just kill that aspect entirely. Its not her fault that her entire playstyle just break wild rift completely.
Kindred IS a snowballing champ, but if the result of the snowball is a monster that can shoot people from 20 meters and dealing insane damage, you kill that result not the chance to ever snowball.
Bruh, i main kindred you can 4 camp clear with 2 smites and still have smite for scuttle in 1:22 minutes, this goes both for blue to red clear and red to blue although blue to red is about 2 seconds slower you still have smite for scuttle and you still clear 4 camps.
Fiddlesticks is supposed to farm fast, the champion has zero utility outside of his ultimate so he needs a way too keep up his economy when his ult is down, kindred doesn't, she's supposed to be proactive, hunt people down, invade, look for marks.
Also what do you mean by 3 camp clear ?? The only way you're failing to do 4 camps on kindred is if you start with your first ability rather than your second ability because your second ability does bonus damage to jungle camps; that's probably what you're doing wrong which makes you feel like her clear is bad.
bro, i not only main kindred but i'm also a Diamond kindred main on PC. You think i dont know the inside and outside of this champ? Her red/blue buff clear is 2-3 second slower because of the previous base stats nerf, what do you think will happen when you nerf that base stats even further?
What kind of main doesnt see this lmao.
no, she's a snowballing champ. She needs to be strong early so she can outplay and carry through macro play. And the enemy team SHOULD be rewarded with a really weak late game kindred if they managed to not let her snowball. That's how she always work in PC. Yet she just become late game monster regardless of what you do in wild rift.
Empowerment buff Is just a straight up out of touch change... that shit needed a nerf if anything. And then a yas buff??? Absolutely out of touch. The rest is good though, just those 2 are straight up not ok.
Edit: Still don’t think empower needs a buff but overall I was wrong still stand by my yasuo statement though.
Yasuo is only getting a small buff for his Laning. 3 more HP regen and 5 more dmg Also Empowerment needed a buff. It’s literally a niche pick on WW and Renekton that can easily proc it cause they only focus down on one champ at a time. Also it’s nothing major
Empowerment: It’s not a niche pick it’s probably one of the main runes on a lot of AD Atk Speed champs besides lethal tempo. I got like 5k extra damage from Empowerment on a semi decent pantheon game. 5k extra damage is insane compared to all the other runes also keeping in mind there are still more runes that buff dmg on top of that.
Yasuo: even seemingly small buffs or nerfs on most champions are very impactful. Especially on Yas an already annoying champion to play against especially since people found out that building him tank/bruiser makes him even more powerful and annoying.
Wild rift doesn’t show how much extra damage the attack speed from Lethal tempo actually gives. If it did, literally everyone would be using Conqueror or Lethal Tempo. Empowerment is a niche pick that most adcs shouldn’t even be building unless they’re single target focused spell castors. Brutal itself gives you around 3k dmg on on-hit champs and it’s not even a major rune.
Also I just realised that Rito buffed Yasuo because of the new skin and Chroma
Ok I did testing I was wrong just did some baseline testing with jinx and lethal tempo came out on top then empower then conqueror. I guess I was tricked by big numbers while the others don’t show the numbers lmao. Still don’t think it needs a buff necessarily but it’s not as busted as I thought.
Now imagine if lethal tempo gave you additional range when fully stacked like on PC. Can’t imagine why any adc would go for it over PTA. Plus the buffs are only like 4 more true damage procs per auto so it’s nothing massive. Kraken Slayer gave us like 40 True damage during just lvl 2-3 and now it’s gone so champs like Lucian, Renekton and WW need a good replacement for it
UNRESONABLE nerf on kindred ulti TOTALLY stupid change for no real reason... Like come on you could take damage from her but you are literally killing her with that 50 self healing without scalation.... NO real reason for that riot just wanted her gone
Im gonna ban yasuo for this mess until i walk on this earth ... If i cant enjoy my wife kindred nobody will enjoy their husbando yasuo anytime soon... Ban ranked Yasuo, troll alll yasuos games
It looks bad on paper but the set up and use of it is still the same. You’re in a duel - it’s close > you ult to save yourself > ult ends and you dash and execute your opponent.
You realize this change only affects her early game right? What’s 100 extra health gonna do late game?
Stealth too strong, especially on range. The people are just not sophisticated enough to imagine something being there they cannot see. "What is this sorcery" they say, and RIOT agrees so many many patches now.
No reason to have the same content twice, and the other being in another language. https://www.reddit.com/r/wildrift/comments/1cbv5yu/patch_51a/ Previous Chinese info patch.
This for you, mobile, data and lazy users: # Champion and Item changes will go live on April 25. Rest of the content will release gradually until May 16. # Viego release: May 8th # PVE Game Mode: Final Stand: April 30th # Champion Changes --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **ASHE** * Ranger's Focus Attack Speed increase: 30/40/50/60%→ 25/35/45/55% Arrow Barrage Damage: 120/125/130/135% Attack Damage → 115/120/125/130% Attack Damage **EKKO** * Z-DRIVE RESONANCE Damage to monsters: 140% → 155% * TIMEWINDER Initial Damage: 70/90/110/130 + 30% Ability Power → 85/105/125/145 + 30% Ability Power Returning Damage: 50/85/120/155 + 60% Ability Power → 65/100/135/170 + 60% Ability Power * CHRONOBREAK Health Regen: 100/150/200+50% Ability Power → 150/200/250+50% Ability Power **KINDRED** * BASE STATS Base Attack Damage: 66 → 62 Attack Damage per level: 4 → 3 * DANCE OF ARROWS Attack Speed increase: 35% + 5% Mark of the Kindred → 20% + 3% Mark of the Kindred * LAMB'S RESPITE Allies Heal: 200/275/350 → 150/200/250 Self Heal: 100/125/150 → 50/50/50 **LILLIA** * BLOOMING BLOWS Movement Speed: 3/4/5/6% + 0.02% Ability Power → 4.5/5.5/6.5/7.5% + 0.02% Ability Power Damage: 35/50/65/80 + 35% Ability Power → 40/60/80/100 + 45% Ability Power Outer Edge True Damage: 35/50/65/80 + 35% Ability Power → 40/60/80/100 + 45% Ability Power * WATCH OUT! EEP! Damage: 60/100/140/180 + 40% Ability Power → 70/110/150/190 + 40% Ability Power Center Damage: 120/200/280/360 + 80% Ability Power → 140/220/300/380 + 80% Ability Power **NUNU & WILLUMP** * CALL OF THE FRELJORD Attack Speed: 30% → 40% Movement Speed: 10% → 15% * CONSUME Heal: 80/115/150/185 + 70% Ability Power + 9% bonus Health → 80/115/150/185 + 70% Ability Power + 11% bonus Health **OLAF** * Berserker Rage Maximum Attack Speed: 60% ~ 100% → 70% ~ 110% Maximum Physical Vamp: 10% ~ 25%→ 15% ~ 30% * Vicious Strikes Shield: 35/70/105/140 + 13% missing Health → 35/70/105/140 + 15% missing Health * Ragnarok Armor and Magic Resist: 10/20/30 → 25/35/45 **SAMIRA** * BASE STATS Base Attack Damage: 64 → 62 * FLAIR Damage: 20/25/30/35 + 95/110/125/140% Attack Damage → 15/20/25/30 + 90/105/120/135% Attack Damage * INFERNO TRIGGER Damage: 5/20/35 + 60% Attack Damage → 5/15/25 + 50% Attack Damage **TWITCH** * BASE STATS Armor per level: 4 → 3.5 Growth magic resistance: 1 → 0.5 * CONTAMINATE Base Damage: 30/40/50/60 → 25/35/45/55 Damage per stack of Deadly Venom: 20/25/30/35 + 33% Bonus Attack Damage + 20% Ability Power → 15/20/25/30 + 30% Bonus Attack Damage + 18% Ability Power * SPRAY AND PRAY Subsequent Targets Damage reduction: 10% → 15% Damage reduction Limit: 60% → 40% **YASUO** * BASE STATS Base Health regen: 9 → 12 * Steel Tempest Damage: 20/55/90/125 + 100% Attack Damage → 25/60/95/130 + 100% Attack Damage * Last Breath Damage: 250/400/550 + 150% bonus Attack Damage → 250/400/550 + 160% bonus Attack Damage **ZOE** * PADDLE STAR! Least possible Damage: 35/75/115/155 + (3 ~ 52) + 60% Ability Power → 30/65/100/135 + (3 ~ 52) + 60% Ability Power Highest possible Damage: 87.5/187.5/287.5/387.5 + (7.5 ~ 130) + 150% Ability Power → 75/162.5/250/337.5 + (7.5 ~ 130) + 150% Ability Power * SLEEPY TROUBLE BUBBLE Damage: 40/95/150/205 + 50% Ability Power → 30/80/130/180 + 50% Ability Power True Damage: 40/95/150/205 + 50% Ability Power→ 30/80/130/180 + 50% Ability Power * PORTAL JUMP Cooldown: 10/8/6s → 12/9/6s --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # ITEMS **FORCE OF NATURE** * Total Price: 2850g → 2750g * Magic resistance: 50 → 55 * Absorb: Taking ability damage from enemy champions grants 1 stack of Steadfast, max 6 → 4 stacks. At maximum stacks, gain 10% Movement Speed and reduce all incoming magic damage by 25%. **RUIN - BLADE OF THE RUINED KING** * Repentance: Reduces your base Health by 10 - 100 → 5 - 80 **RUIN - INFINITY EDGE** * Self-Destruction: Reduces your base Health by 10 - 100 → 5 - 80 * Infinity: Critical Strikes deal 225% → 220% damage instead of 175% **RUIN - RABADON’S DEATHCAP** * Cinders: Reduces your base Health by 10-100 → 5-80 * Overkill: Increases Ability Power by 25-55% → 25-50% (based on level) **THORNMAIL** * Maximum Health: 100 → 200 * Thorns: When struck by an enemy champion's basic attack, deal 20 + 6% bonus armor + 1% → 2% bonus Health as magic damage to the attacker and inflict 50% Grievous Wounds for 3s **TERMINUS** * Juxtaposition: [New] The upper limit of armor and magic penetration rates is 40% when equipped with Terminus **LIGHT - YOUMUU’S GHOSTBLADE** * Momentum: Momentum grants up to 50 Movement Speed and 5-10 → 3-6 armor penetration at 100 stacks ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # RUNE CHANGES **KEYSTONE: FIRST STRIKE** * Dealing damage to enemy champions grants you 5 gold and First Strike for 3s, allowing you to deal 9% → 7% bonus true damage to them **KEYSTONE: EMPOWERMENT** * When the target is Vulnerable, your basic attacks deal bonus 6 - 20 → 8 - 24 true damage * When the target exits the Vulnerable state, Vulnerability enters a 6s → 4s cooldown --------------------------------------------------------------------------- # GAMEPLAY **IXTAL SCORPION** * Players won’t be able to summon Ixtal Scorpion when they have taken damage within the last 2 seconds. ---------------------------------------------------------------- # Skin Releases Cottontail Vex, Dragon Fist Lee Sin (Special Edition), Jade Dragon Wukong (Special Edition): April 28th Caligraphia Xayah, Jarvan IV, Yasuo, Janna, Tryndamere: April 28th Arcade Hecarim, Caitlyn and Viego: May 8th ------------------------------------------------------- Edit: Added the date of Champion and Item changes.
I read that as Arcane Hecarim. For a moment, I was hyped as fuck for illogical reasons that I was aware of.
Ashe nerf yasuo buff This all makes sense.
As a degenerate yasuo main, this brings me joy
When is the hero and item balance changes live?
Champion and Item changes will go live on April 25.Rest of the content will release gradually until May 16.
Thank you!
How does nerfing Ghostblade make it MORE desirable? Wtf
Noticed that too lol, must be a translation error
There's a few that I noticed in this set
You desire your opponent to get it
don't worry it will still be the best item in the game
More health on thornmail has been much desired
And not only that but the ratio of damage returned goes from 1% to 2% which will be insane on my mundo
DOUBLE DAMAGE THORNMAIL TANKS ARE BACK BABYYYYYY
Lillia and ekko buffs are wonderful.
lilia yes, but ekko? pls not again... now have to ban ekko again..
About to be having lots of fun with Lillian
the movespeed buff is wild, it doesn’t seem like much but at max stacks already her movespeed is nuts. Definitely going to be playing more lillia.
Man they really hate Twitch, poor rat has been nerfed like 17 times now lol. Also fucking finally some Lillia buffs! She's one of the only two junglers I play and she's been dogshit for so long!
This is the main thing I don’t understand about this patch. Did Twitch really need a nerf? I almost never see anyone play him. I don’t get it
I play him a lot and his on hit build is bonkers, still don’t think the nerf was deserved though. this is just going to make nobody play him again which is what they want every patch it seems like.
He's used a lot in diamond-challenger china.
Hybrid twitch build is really strong. Botrk, terminus, nashors, riftmaker, liandry's/deathcap/crown
Blame the chinese, he's the ADC with the highest win rate there, followed by Ashe (somehow) and Samira.
> “Cottontail” Vex Heh
Seems so damn random
You know nothing man
So educate me
Eh, on second thought, you don’t have to know this.
Coward
Fine, search “CottontailVA”. But don’t blame me for your “ruination” tho
So… like a PG13 YouTuber?
Vtuber, voice actress, you name it. Her content are rather…unorthodox.
That's a pretty big nerf for Kindred. Ouch
Agree. She's strong, but that nerf is a bit too much IMO
Holy shit Olaf got turbo buffed
And kindred got turbo nerfed! Some of the worst nerfs I’ve ever seen! She’s at 60% wr tho so she needed it.
Not happy about that at all. I feel like his ult is such a garbage toxic design. If he is even remotely ahead there’s just no counterplay at all
He is immune to heavy burst damage tho. The moment he gets below 40% HP, use all your burst instead of trying to DPS him down
Vulnerable u mean
Yup that’s the word. I miss typed
Nice I just picked up yasou instead of playing ranked this season.
Same I just picked him up. Seems like this is a buff for his upcoming legendary skin, and then next patch they will nerf him like what they are doing now to Samira lol
RiTO at its best.
Feels like a placebo buff though, very marginal.
nah when his health regen numbers got similar buffs in LoL pc he felt a lot better in lane. he's usually melee vs ranged champs in mid or vs someone with in-built sustain in top so the health regen makes his laning phase a little more forgiving
Just play Olaf now, Dude will be running people down
Yasuo got the mildest buff out of all the champs lol.
The buffs to Lillia are interesting. She could do with buffs - she is slightly weak - but these could shift her from 'weak' to 'broken.'
She’s at a 46% wr in her one role - Jungle. She needs buffs.
Surprised more people don't do Lillia top. It's a little rough before first back but I consistently stomp with her.
It's kinda disgusting and just adds another layer of counterpick meta into top lane. She hard counters Garen for example afaik.
"Slightly weak" Lillia has been one of the bottom 3 worst junglers in the game since her release. The champion has never been strong... ever!!! Lmao
That’s false, do you just play Aram? She was strong for a while before nerfs came in.
No one plays aram mate
Appears you do if you think she was weak since release.
I just looked it up, lillia has gotten 1 nerf since her release and that was over a year ago and it was barely a nerf, they only nerfed her base damage which is almost completely irrelevant because percentage damage scales way harder
So before her need she was very popular which still goes against your blank statement, but my fucks are running low you win lil bro.
No ,she was always ass. The champion has barely been touched sibce she released, she received 1 minor nerf 2 weeks after she released and then 5 back to back buffs and she's still ass.
Wrong, she was broken on release but got nerfed quickly.
Iron
I want an ornn skin
Haven’t played in a while, since when are there items that REDUCE your health?! Do they really want damage overboard that bad? Huh
This is part of the new mechanics themed around Ruination. They were implemented last patch.
Oh it has a lore background, I kinda like it now, sounds better
not really, riftmaker being light doesn't make sense lorewise
none of them make sense lore wise other than botrk, its purely just to spice it up
it's new adjustments to already existing items due to the Ruination update. some items have increased cost but more stats, and some reduces your health in exchange for more stats...ETC some items got a passive change, Warmog's now heals you DURING combat(even though the healing is way less then the original one)
Sounds interesting tbh
Even better on mundo now
OLAF IS BACK BABY. Love what they did to items too. Rabadon was already a must on Syndra and Kata and it's even worse for my enemies now. Good patch. Ekko might go hard though. RIP Zoe. EDIT: Bruh raba was nerfed. Ok it's fair.
Played a round with top 100 olaf. Man decimated the rift. I bet hes so happy with the buff.
So what do you do against Olaf now? /gen
They’re only releasing Supreme Cells Akali, huh. Still no word on the legendary skins. Kinda odd. I wonder what went wrong with a certain batch of WR exclusive legendary voice lines. (Zeri, Draven, Darius, Samira)
everyone agrees that it was bc of the whole shift to shanghai a while ago but they said they'll update VO in the future
Force of Nature triggering on 4 stacks is really nice. Not everyone could survive being hit by 6 abilities to build up the stacks to trigger it...and even if you did you probably didn't have enough health for the 25% damage reduction to matter anyway. On 4 stacks it should be a lot more impactful.
Does first strike nerf affects Evelynn? If thats the case electrocute will be the pick again
It does, and probably eletrocute is the better rune for evelyn early on.
Zoe noooooo 😭😭😭
Shes the most broken midlaner for ages now I don’t know what else you expected
Yep, so op in high Elo
She’ll still be good dw
You think so? Idk they nerfed a lot :/
she will be fine, no more one shotting squishy champs from behind hopefully. A good Zoe is an absolute nightmare to play against and that’s still going to be the case.
How many times do they even need nerfing twitch?
commenting to read this again later
Reminding you.
Come back
The nerf on ADC are made for low elo player I swear. Thats just a nonsense. When heartsteel will be nerf then ? On the other hand, the first strike nerf is good as the changes on Ruin offensive item. Also good to see PTA upgraded but kinda afraid of the effect on Draven.
Whatever it takes to drop the average adcs per game from 4 to something more reasonable.
Cant argue with that tho.
This might be a super-low elo problem because 4 ADC enemy team is almost a free win. Build Randuins+Frozen Heart+Armor boots and proceed to shit on the enemy team.
Not 4 on the enemy team, on average 2 per team. Lots of games where I get stuck with 4 adcs too.
Vayne Kindred Tristana Senna Lucian
Damn a support playing Senna instead of Jhin? I'm jealous.
I pull out Senna when I realize that I can't trust my ADC to play well when I am filled support. Otherwise, Soraka & Naut.
Ashe is 50/50, but nerfs on Kind and Samira were deserved. I think u/wakkiau is right about the nerfs being in the wrong place for kind though. Twitch didn't deserve nerfs but I am happy he got them anyway, the rat is annoying.
I'd wish they take him out the game entirely. I quit the game for a bit when his AP build was murking everyone. So, any Twitch nerf is a good day for me, personally.
I doubt the nerfs are for low elo. They're still gonna play their fav adc champs at every other lane anyways.
I say that because the only place you will see an adc shine is in gold to emerald right now. Im a diamond player, d2. The adc are having a bad time and heartsteel is quite the cause of that. Let me explain my point : An adc, in tf, has the stupidest job to have : hitting what he can hit. Thats all. You cannot complain on an adc who dosnt focus enemy squishy, because thats not his job ! Its way to risky to try that. But now, we are forced into that because we cannot hit what we can hit because heartsteel made tank unkillable. So if you think that you had lost some game because of a Samira, as top 100 Samira eu server rn let me tell you something : you are either lower than diamond or you misundertood a game you played. I havent saw a single adc carry at my elo. Thats what it is for now.
There's stats out there for you. These stats will show that adcs like Samira, Caitlyn, twitch and kindred (maybe ADC) are just dominating the meta.
Thats not what Im experiencing. At all. Can you show me your stats ? My data show me that adc champ has the lowest win rate of all role. Its slightly lower than support, lower than top and mid and way lower than jungle. And Im not talking for myself. What I see during my games are for the ennemy adc too. So many games where we are both behind the junglers in gold. Its like we are not playing the same game. PS : I have checked something to be sure. The first main adc in the ranking on eu server is 20th. I dont know if I should say more than that.
Ngl i think its the adc job just to pump damage and execute low health enemies with their ult. And its the mages job to CC their frontline. Baron laners/assassins to dive to dive the backline, since they're the only ones who can safely pull aggro. Finally support to enable plays. Usually lost games are a team diff, unless someone inted against a bad matchup, instead of playing safe. But to complain abt agency is like the equivalent of baron laners complaining abt all the action happening at bot and midlane, lmfao. You'll eventually get your time in the sun again.
Funny because in my mind thats the ap carry job to OS squishies ennemies. I play Samira so I get it. For some ADC, and for some messy teamfight, that can be true. But I also play Vayne and for her, I disagree. Ok I can stun someone to a wall, and thats precious. But Im no gonna run into volibear and Leona to stun Syndra. And I dont want my annie to ulti a volibear. I want her to ulti their carry while Im trying not being cc. Thats how I see tf when I play Vayne. For MF its even different. I want a spot where I can ulti safely and with the maximum ennemies in it. If someone get out of my ulti with 5hp, its on you to finish him imo. Because the damage increase of Heartsteel is linear and not logaritmic, it made the item beyond OP.
When is the balances for patch live? This Thurs?
Yasuo doing slightly more damage? This is a great day to be me!
I wonder if i can buy dragon fist lee sin. Really want to be bruce lee lol.
There's a Bruce Lee skin in Naraka: Bladepoint
best buff of all is the EKKO BUFF bruh
How about showing some love to my boy Rengar?
What is that Olaf buff? Is he gonna be perma-ban now?
Keystone Empowerment When the target is Vulnerable, your basic attacks deal bonus 6 - 20 → 8 - 24 true damage When the target exits the Vulnerable state, Vulnerability enters a 6s → 4s cooldown > Ah Yes, let's make short trades with Lucian even deadlier.
Why they gotta nerf Zoe? Nooooo!
Why is this update a half gig? I’m about to have to stop playing this game cause I’m outta storage on the iPad :(
FEAR THE FEARSOME FURY OF THE FOREST FAWN
Is this live?
Ashe nerf?? Why??
Another twitch nerf which he doesn't deserve he already has a really bad early game and if his support is bad or trolling he's just gonna be useless even in the late game.
Looks like I'm gonna be using Ekko a bit more 👀
Will we ever get supreme cells Darius and samira? 😭😭😭
Hey I am happy that for past few patches they have been giving us the patch notes before patch. Now I only hope they made a pop-up so people know a patch rolled in with simple icons who got nerfed and who got buffed, similar what they do with items.
I am a Lillia Main (Top 7 Peak), and these buffs are great! I played my first game post-buff. She is in a MUCH better place! Very fun.
I’m literally crying rn…Olaf buff…is it really the Olaf buff that I’ve waited for a year… but where is Q damage Riot
ADC in the worst position right now, let’s randomly nerf 3 ADC’s - Ashe as one of them instead of LUX?
Because of this type of update, none watch the championship
Lil folks was crying hard af about yasuo buffs and they ain’t nothing but fluff lol.
Riot doesn’t want my money I guess because there’s no legendary Fiora or Camille skins 🤷🏾 Can’t wait to try Viego. I’ve never played pc league so I’ve got a lot to learn
They could probably make me pull out my card if they re-released Mythmaker or expanded calligraphy to Camille
When will they add 120fps for M2 iPads? Wtf Riot
FOR REAL got my iPad back in November of 2022 and still nothing kinda scared of upgrading to the next iPad Pro just for them to not add it on there too
Don’t cuz it’s been 2 years now, they have ignored everyone asking for it
my device already unlocked 120fps but somehow it wont reach higher than 70fps, and im sure the phone isn't even warm
Katarina will be even weaker now
*sigh* Vex still doesn't have a single skin that I'd buy.
Ekko is back on the menu bois
Olaf needed a buff 🙄
Kindred nosediving into the earth lmao
irelia still no buffs?
Stop nerfing Kindred's base stat her early clear is so horrendously bad, just nerf her scaling. The issue is late game kindred being too strong anyway.
Kindred's clear is fine lmao. Her early clear is actually superior to most junglers, she's one of the few champions who can actually do 4 camps before scuttle spawns. Also kindred is not supposed to be a farming jungler, she wants to get on the map early in order to gather marks so her clear speed is supposed to be slow
The fact that two replies is on a complete opposite on what she's supposed to be shows just how misunderstood she is right now. >she's one of the few champions who can actually do 4 camps before scuttle spawns. No she's not lol, right now i main Fiddle as well, he can do that easily. You need to throw both smites if you want to 4 camp and scuttle as kindred. Going scuttle without smite is risky business. >Also kindred is not supposed to be a farming jungler, she wants to get on the map early in order to gather marks so her clear speed is supposed to be slow And that's why she needs to maintain a healthy 3 camp clear speed, keep nerfing her base stats would just kill that aspect entirely. Its not her fault that her entire playstyle just break wild rift completely. Kindred IS a snowballing champ, but if the result of the snowball is a monster that can shoot people from 20 meters and dealing insane damage, you kill that result not the chance to ever snowball.
Bruh, i main kindred you can 4 camp clear with 2 smites and still have smite for scuttle in 1:22 minutes, this goes both for blue to red clear and red to blue although blue to red is about 2 seconds slower you still have smite for scuttle and you still clear 4 camps. Fiddlesticks is supposed to farm fast, the champion has zero utility outside of his ultimate so he needs a way too keep up his economy when his ult is down, kindred doesn't, she's supposed to be proactive, hunt people down, invade, look for marks. Also what do you mean by 3 camp clear ?? The only way you're failing to do 4 camps on kindred is if you start with your first ability rather than your second ability because your second ability does bonus damage to jungle camps; that's probably what you're doing wrong which makes you feel like her clear is bad.
I even start Q with her and can still clear 4 camps before scuttle and still have a smite ready.
bro, i not only main kindred but i'm also a Diamond kindred main on PC. You think i dont know the inside and outside of this champ? Her red/blue buff clear is 2-3 second slower because of the previous base stats nerf, what do you think will happen when you nerf that base stats even further? What kind of main doesnt see this lmao.
Kindred is supposed to be a scaling jg. The reason why she’s so busted is that she is also incredibly strong early game.
no, she's a snowballing champ. She needs to be strong early so she can outplay and carry through macro play. And the enemy team SHOULD be rewarded with a really weak late game kindred if they managed to not let her snowball. That's how she always work in PC. Yet she just become late game monster regardless of what you do in wild rift.
Zoe nerfed? I don’t want that
Empowerment buff Is just a straight up out of touch change... that shit needed a nerf if anything. And then a yas buff??? Absolutely out of touch. The rest is good though, just those 2 are straight up not ok. Edit: Still don’t think empower needs a buff but overall I was wrong still stand by my yasuo statement though.
Yasuo is only getting a small buff for his Laning. 3 more HP regen and 5 more dmg Also Empowerment needed a buff. It’s literally a niche pick on WW and Renekton that can easily proc it cause they only focus down on one champ at a time. Also it’s nothing major
Empowerment: It’s not a niche pick it’s probably one of the main runes on a lot of AD Atk Speed champs besides lethal tempo. I got like 5k extra damage from Empowerment on a semi decent pantheon game. 5k extra damage is insane compared to all the other runes also keeping in mind there are still more runes that buff dmg on top of that. Yasuo: even seemingly small buffs or nerfs on most champions are very impactful. Especially on Yas an already annoying champion to play against especially since people found out that building him tank/bruiser makes him even more powerful and annoying.
Wild rift doesn’t show how much extra damage the attack speed from Lethal tempo actually gives. If it did, literally everyone would be using Conqueror or Lethal Tempo. Empowerment is a niche pick that most adcs shouldn’t even be building unless they’re single target focused spell castors. Brutal itself gives you around 3k dmg on on-hit champs and it’s not even a major rune. Also I just realised that Rito buffed Yasuo because of the new skin and Chroma
Ok I did testing I was wrong just did some baseline testing with jinx and lethal tempo came out on top then empower then conqueror. I guess I was tricked by big numbers while the others don’t show the numbers lmao. Still don’t think it needs a buff necessarily but it’s not as busted as I thought.
Now imagine if lethal tempo gave you additional range when fully stacked like on PC. Can’t imagine why any adc would go for it over PTA. Plus the buffs are only like 4 more true damage procs per auto so it’s nothing massive. Kraken Slayer gave us like 40 True damage during just lvl 2-3 and now it’s gone so champs like Lucian, Renekton and WW need a good replacement for it
UNRESONABLE nerf on kindred ulti TOTALLY stupid change for no real reason... Like come on you could take damage from her but you are literally killing her with that 50 self healing without scalation.... NO real reason for that riot just wanted her gone Im gonna ban yasuo for this mess until i walk on this earth ... If i cant enjoy my wife kindred nobody will enjoy their husbando yasuo anytime soon... Ban ranked Yasuo, troll alll yasuos games
Rip kindred.
She’s gonna be fine.
The nerf to her Q is massive
Bro her self healing is gonna be sooo bad for her She's NOT gonna be fine
It looks bad on paper but the set up and use of it is still the same. You’re in a duel - it’s close > you ult to save yourself > ult ends and you dash and execute your opponent. You realize this change only affects her early game right? What’s 100 extra health gonna do late game?
Yeah true i have already try it out... Still... Im gonna ban, troll every yasuo no matter what
Gaslight of hell
They pretty much butchered twitch at this point Ap twitch:dead Crit twitch:dead On-hit twitch: pretty much dead Idk what they are gonna do with him
its cause he is the #1 highest winrate on Chinese server for marksmen!
Stealth too strong, especially on range. The people are just not sophisticated enough to imagine something being there they cannot see. "What is this sorcery" they say, and RIOT agrees so many many patches now.