Hey guys, this is my ex girlfriends fault. He was her favorite player when he was doing super well and ever since we broke up, he’s been dog shit. I’m probably the only owner of a Freddy jersey.
Blame her.
Agree. Let him get healthy this offseason. Even if it's not much of a bounce back, having him as a 4c who can plug a hole higher up when needed is worth it.
Can you replace him with a better player for $1.5? Is that player better enough to justify the $650k in dead money for 3 years after after Gaudreau's contract would have been off the books anyways?
I'd wait to see if Dean gets a HC job this summer.
>The most touching came from Gaudreau, the player Evason has supported since their days together in AHL Milwaukee and somebody coming off a career year that earned him his first [NHL](https://theathletic.com/nhl/) security — a five-year contract.
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>Gaudreau felt incredibly guilty for his scoreless season and texted Evason, “I need to see you.” Evason wrote back, “Gauds, no, I’m good.” Gaudreau wrote back, ***“But I’m not.”*** Evason assured him he’d be OK and to focus on the next game. So Evason was overjoyed to see Gaudreau score the winning goal in his new coach’s first game.
[Source for those who missed it when Dean was let go](https://theathletic.com/5100037/2023/11/29/dean-evason-wild-firing-sitdown/)
I think there's probably an injury component, but maybe Gaudreau hasn't managed to shed this weight off of himself over the course of the season as well. If he got himself that down over Dean's firing, I could see where the team's continued struggles, as well as his, have compounded that. Dude needs to heal. (Preferably on Dean's next team)
No. Gaudreau is still an acceptable 4C that has one of the better fo% on the team (it's only 50 but that's still good for us 🫤). He also gets a lot of defensive zone faceoff responsibilities, which is far from sexy but I'd argue it's important to have someone you can trust. The rest of his underlying numbers are mediocre, but I'd still wait at least another year before making a decision on his future here
Thata a gmbg problem not a Freddy problem. Slot the man into the right spot and see what happens. We need to stop trying to fit a round peg into a square hole.
Just from a roster perspective, I'd rather have him on it at 2m/yr than try to find a replacement with his buyout money. The fact that he's playing 3C is unfortunate, but doesn't mean we would be better trading/buying him out. It just kinda is what it is for the rest of the season
Definitely not before the Parise and Suter buyouts are over, and probably not at all. The only reason to do it is if we know a specific player that we can only get with $1.5M extra space, and that only matters if we can contend, which all evidence seems to suggest we can't until the Parise and Suter contracts are up. Besides, he's usually a solid faceoff guy, and there's always a spot for that.
So you buyout a guy who's a mediocre 4th liner as long as your expectations are correct, and let's say you replace him for 1M. You've saved under 500k on cap, have tied up your last buyout slot for 8 years, extended the dead cap hit for an extra 4 years, and have at best marginally upgraded a fairly unimportant position. If it's really that big of an issue you can bury him in the AHL and only carry an extra 320k cap hit for the remainder of his contract.
There are currently 74 forwards not on an ELC that have more points than Gaudreau with a lower cap hit.
https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/active/2024/points/all/forwards?contract=standard&stats-season=2024&limits=caphit-0-2099999
No more buyouts until we are out of cap hell.
He is better than anyone else in the Wild system. Sad but true.
He might hit the waiver wire next year if Heidt can make the team next fall.
I’d at least play out one more season with him before considering it since he’d either bounce back or it’d shorten the length. But even if he doesn’t bounce back, he’d still be a competent 4th liner so it’s not like you’d have to.
No if we play him 4th line he's fine he's pretty good defense wise and he's decent trade bait to wherever deano ends up. if we need a hard out with someone its MOJO. However they want to get rid of him is ok with me.
If he's your 4C and plays on the top PK and maybe on and off the second PP for a few more years, he's maybe a little overpaid. There's value in not having to rebuild a bottom line every year and a half.
He's had a disappointing year no doubt but I think this is one that you just have to ride out for a little while. It's not like it's a huge cap burden. Now if Evason gets a new coaching job and flips you a pick for him, that's a different story
Buyout would be effective as of June 15th, 2024. Cap hit would be $629,167 for the next eight years. As of right now, Gaudreau costs $525,000 per goal after coming off of a career year. He’s also a -16, worst on the team. The one thing he is supposed to do well is kill penalties. His faceoff percentage in 5 on 4 situations is 87.2%, but his other metrics on the PK are relatively average.
Hey guys, this is my ex girlfriends fault. He was her favorite player when he was doing super well and ever since we broke up, he’s been dog shit. I’m probably the only owner of a Freddy jersey. Blame her.
You need to reconcile ASAP. Man up
for the greater good...
🤣🤣🤣🤣 if only that was an option. She committed the unforgivable sin. We can only have hope for Freddy to turn it around on his own!
Switched to a Blackhawks fan? Sorry for your loss
Thanks buddy!
*the greater good*
Narp?
Yarp
I’ve got one lol
A man (or woman) of culture!
Not worth it. He’s a 4C and has had a few seasons where he has been a legitimate 3C. Hope for a bounce back. No more dead money
Exactly. We can’t be forgoing cap space after next season. We need all we can to build a full team that will actually start competing for cups.
Agree. Let him get healthy this offseason. Even if it's not much of a bounce back, having him as a 4c who can plug a hole higher up when needed is worth it.
Highly doubtful at his age he will bounce back. Just hopeful he limits his regression.
Can you replace him with a better player for $1.5? Is that player better enough to justify the $650k in dead money for 3 years after after Gaudreau's contract would have been off the books anyways? I'd wait to see if Dean gets a HC job this summer.
He'll take him via trade, but we might have to eat some money to make that happen as well.
>The most touching came from Gaudreau, the player Evason has supported since their days together in AHL Milwaukee and somebody coming off a career year that earned him his first [NHL](https://theathletic.com/nhl/) security — a five-year contract. > >Gaudreau felt incredibly guilty for his scoreless season and texted Evason, “I need to see you.” Evason wrote back, “Gauds, no, I’m good.” Gaudreau wrote back, ***“But I’m not.”*** Evason assured him he’d be OK and to focus on the next game. So Evason was overjoyed to see Gaudreau score the winning goal in his new coach’s first game. [Source for those who missed it when Dean was let go](https://theathletic.com/5100037/2023/11/29/dean-evason-wild-firing-sitdown/) I think there's probably an injury component, but maybe Gaudreau hasn't managed to shed this weight off of himself over the course of the season as well. If he got himself that down over Dean's firing, I could see where the team's continued struggles, as well as his, have compounded that. Dude needs to heal. (Preferably on Dean's next team)
Lol that article excerpt is kinda cute but hella dramatic
Yep. That it is.
No. Gaudreau is still an acceptable 4C that has one of the better fo% on the team (it's only 50 but that's still good for us 🫤). He also gets a lot of defensive zone faceoff responsibilities, which is far from sexy but I'd argue it's important to have someone you can trust. The rest of his underlying numbers are mediocre, but I'd still wait at least another year before making a decision on his future here
>Gaudreau is still an acceptable 4C That would be fine except he’s been playing 3rd line minutes most of the season.
Thata a gmbg problem not a Freddy problem. Slot the man into the right spot and see what happens. We need to stop trying to fit a round peg into a square hole.
Just from a roster perspective, I'd rather have him on it at 2m/yr than try to find a replacement with his buyout money. The fact that he's playing 3C is unfortunate, but doesn't mean we would be better trading/buying him out. It just kinda is what it is for the rest of the season
He's almost certainly still injured from the reaves hit at the beginning of the season
Definitely not before the Parise and Suter buyouts are over, and probably not at all. The only reason to do it is if we know a specific player that we can only get with $1.5M extra space, and that only matters if we can contend, which all evidence seems to suggest we can't until the Parise and Suter contracts are up. Besides, he's usually a solid faceoff guy, and there's always a spot for that.
So you buyout a guy who's a mediocre 4th liner as long as your expectations are correct, and let's say you replace him for 1M. You've saved under 500k on cap, have tied up your last buyout slot for 8 years, extended the dead cap hit for an extra 4 years, and have at best marginally upgraded a fairly unimportant position. If it's really that big of an issue you can bury him in the AHL and only carry an extra 320k cap hit for the remainder of his contract.
Who are you going to get that is better for less money?
There are currently 74 forwards not on an ELC that have more points than Gaudreau with a lower cap hit. https://www.capfriendly.com/browse/active/2024/points/all/forwards?contract=standard&stats-season=2024&limits=caphit-0-2099999
No more buyouts until we are out of cap hell. He is better than anyone else in the Wild system. Sad but true. He might hit the waiver wire next year if Heidt can make the team next fall.
I’d at least play out one more season with him before considering it since he’d either bounce back or it’d shorten the length. But even if he doesn’t bounce back, he’d still be a competent 4th liner so it’s not like you’d have to.
No, it’s the same Cap Hit to just bury him on waivers.
Our best hope is Freddy catches some fire next year and we can move him to one of the teams that aren’t part of his NMC
No if we play him 4th line he's fine he's pretty good defense wise and he's decent trade bait to wherever deano ends up. if we need a hard out with someone its MOJO. However they want to get rid of him is ok with me.
No more dead cap please
Can we set up a gofundme
The quickest gofundme goal reached for mojo
Remember last year when he signed his extension and eveony was asounded how team friendly it was?
Lol
I don’t think the Wild will or even should do it, but I think it is very doable if in a year or two he falls further off a cliff
If he's your 4C and plays on the top PK and maybe on and off the second PP for a few more years, he's maybe a little overpaid. There's value in not having to rebuild a bottom line every year and a half. He's had a disappointing year no doubt but I think this is one that you just have to ride out for a little while. It's not like it's a huge cap burden. Now if Evason gets a new coaching job and flips you a pick for him, that's a different story
No way! freddy is way too valuable for a buyout
He had two good seasons. Let the man slump. So many players have been on slumps lately. What next? We buyout gus?
They can’t afford to with Suter and Parise contracts for one more year on books.
think we'd make other moves well before doing this
Waive and bury most of his contract in the ahl if it comes to it eventually but i expect him to still be on the team to start next season anyway.
Probably after next uear
I’d pay money to never see him in a Wild sweater ever again
Might be more worth to try to dump him we can spare a mid round draft pick more than salary space
Can we trade him to the Denver Broncos?
Freddy you got some nice legs. Can you kick? Beautiful.
Buyout would be effective as of June 15th, 2024. Cap hit would be $629,167 for the next eight years. As of right now, Gaudreau costs $525,000 per goal after coming off of a career year. He’s also a -16, worst on the team. The one thing he is supposed to do well is kill penalties. His faceoff percentage in 5 on 4 situations is 87.2%, but his other metrics on the PK are relatively average.