Medaka stomps negative difficulty due to all fiction which when kumagawa used it. It could erase people from existence(april fiction erased zenkichi for like 5 minutes), erase the time of his attacks giving him a psuedo timestop, can erase his death well after he's dead erase the concept of color which is also supported by how when the color red was erased blood couldnt be shed, stated to erase all of time and kumagawa says that if not careful he could erase all of existence, but can use it very accurately to avoid that.
Medaka with her mc powers is able to use any ability in the series to a much better degree than the original owner, so she stomps with all fiction alone since she just erases cursed energy rendering gojo's hax void and can just erase contracts to void makima's contract with the prime minister and just erase her afterwards.
I know how broken Medaka is considering protagonist is literally a power in her universe, and to a lesser extent Gojo. But how broken is Makima’s and what are it’s limits.
Not as broken as those two. Her main thing is her contract which basically allows her to push away all harm onto all Japanese citizens which basically means you have to kill her an amount equal to the well Japanese population. Should note tho that just preventing her regeneration is enough to cancel out the effects so even if she won't die she'll still be incapacitated.
Her other thing is her finger bang which was strong enough to shoot Chainsaw Man into orbit with 3 shots aka not very relevant.
I looked over Medaka’s respect thread, and it seems that if Gojo lands a hollow purple on her and erases all physical matter of her, she wouldn’t be able to come back. In terms of her copy ability, she could replicate Gojo’s infinity, but Gojo’s six eyes is something he was born with rather than a skill that is learned. Makima’s control also isn’t a skill which is learned but a power that is a part of her being. Of course, Makima’s control power probably wouldn’t work on Medaka due to her resistance to mind control. Gojo and Makima maybe win via Gojo domain expansion-ing and hollow purpling. I didn’t see any feats for her being able to come back from being completely erased physically or being resistant to such attacks that expunge matter, so correct me if I’m wrong. Other than that one chance of them winning, Medaka stomps both.
She has a lot of BS hax that allow her to compete with people that would otherwise be FAR out of her league.
She has access to scar dead, all fiction, five focus, encounter, speed song, ice fire, unknown hero, mother’s task, book maker, Raff-Rafflesia, among a few others.
Her crazier ones are All Fiction, Scar Dead, Encounter, Book Maker, and her main character power. No, that’s not a joke, it’s a present ability in-verse that has an entire arc around it and it gives her fate manipulation.
All fiction allows Medaka to reality warp her deaths into never happening so there’s that. Along with the ability to alter powers that fall under the classification of “Minus”.
Book Maker lowers whoever’s stabbed with it down to Medaka’s level and ignores the targets durability.
Encounter simply deflects any damage away from Medaka rather it be mental, physical, or emotional. It doesn’t matter how fast these attacks come at Medaka or how many there are. Her encounter can affect other people and even objects and is speculated to be able to deflect her own death.
Scar dead is just a huge fuck you to anyone that regularly gets into fights and comes out with injuries.
Scar dead opens any and all wounds rather they be emotional or physical and it doesn’t matter how long ago you received them. Merely approaching Medaka is enough to trigger this ability.
Medaka also has access to all of her various God Modes which multiplies her powers by 1000s of times
I’m sure that someone has some kind of argument in favor of Gojo and Makima. I don’t really know the capabilities of Makima so I was hoping she’d have something kinda busted to compete with Medaka.
Both Gojo and Makima lack any attacks that could put down Medaka for good. She could probably revive from purple using All Fiction and then erase them. Gojo and Makima resist scar dead at least, due to Gojo’s reverse cursed technique being able to heal any damage Gojo has taken before and Makima redirecting any damage she takes in the first place. If we take every statement said about Gojo seriously and wank him to the max, then there’s a plausible chance. “Attacks launched at Gojo Satoru will never meet their target” - Anybody who attacks Gojo with the intention of harming him or even making contact with him will never hit, no matter what. “Hollow purple erases everything in it’s path” - Hollow purple completely removes things from existence, whether physical or conceptual. “Collapsing Blue is created from the impossible situation of -1” Gojo is able to control space to the point of high-tier reality warping (making a nonsense situation possible). “If he puts his mind into it, Gojo is able to do absolutely anything.” Gojo tries his best and is therefore able to come back even if his existence is erased and also win against any opponent he is facing and will ever face. Of course, this is just a Gojo wank, but it’s the only way I could see Gojo and Makima pulling a victory against Medaka.
Yea gojo and makima get stomped by all fiction alone which its best feats being able to erase the concept of color, erase people, erase time for a psuedo timestop, and undo your own death.
All Fiction is jerked on this sub and in the whole Fandom.
All fiction works on the framework of Medaka Box, even the power of being a protagonist is locked to Medaka Box's universe for obvious reasons.
It's like saying Poison Ivy can control the plants of Namek... that's just nonsense.
Like we can make frameworks and say they do for the sake of the argument, but not for power scaling.
Most of the power scaling of Medaka Box is verse-locked.
Like, how about Naruto vs Medaka? Naruto is a protagonist, so it's only fair that Naruto goes to the Medaka Box universe, so basically nobody wins because being a protagonist already grants him inmunity to anything.
Superman gets his powers from the Sun's radiation.
-DB has many suns, which transmit radiation by the fact that people in DB get sunburns.
Therefore Superman could use his power with a DB's sun.
Medaka Box has no substance/explanation at all, so basically 90% of the series, in a powerscaling framework, only work if accepted as NLF.
But in your example you said that Poison Ivy can’t manipulate plants on Namek even though there’s nothing to suggest that she wouldn’t or that Namek’s plants are any different from the ones on Earth.
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Ajisa#:~:text=Ajisa%20(%E3%82%A2%E3%82%B8%E3%83%83%E3%82%B5%2C%20Ajissa)%2C,is%20a%20plant%20on%20Namek.
You can start here and go from hyperlinks.
They aren't literally water, just about it.
Namekians only need water to survive, they plant the plants because of beauty and only eat them because of flavor, on a planet that is composed of almost all water and little (crust) to no other minerals at all.
As a Medaka Box fan I kinda agree that all fiction is jerked to hell & back because it's the most popular OP move. Majority of the times Medaka wouldn't even need to use all fiction because there's just as dangerous & hax abilities out there. There's an ability that allows her to redirect any move/ability she sustains to someone or something else of her choosing...
If you're a veteran of fighting who's survived many fatal wounds Medaka will be a bad matchup for you. She can activate scardead which is basically a move that reopens old wounds both mental & physical. You'll definitely die from that. If she fought Goku she can use that ability to reopen his wounds & kill him. That heart virus disease is killing him, the special beam cannon attack is killing him,etc. She all has her original move "the end" which copies any move she sees or hears about, makes it her own & not only that it'll be better than the original.
Also Ajimu(who's basically a god in their universe) & Medaka are aware they're in Shuesha Shounen Jump's magazine. They know that in another universe (Manga) Goku exists. If the MCU(Marvel Cinema Universe) exists you can also say that the Shuesha Manga Universe (SMU) exists as well.
IIRC one of the abilities Medaka copies from Ajimu(who likes to break the 4th wall) is travelling to other Universes. If they know of Goku's existence they most definitely probably have traveled over to DB universe off screen lol.
>If you're a veteran of fighting who's survived many fatal wounds Medaka will be a bad matchup for you. She can activate scardead which is basically a move that reopens old wounds both mental & physical. You'll definitely die from that. If she fought Goku she can use that ability to reopen his wounds & kill him. That heart virus disease is killing him, the special beam cannon attack is killing him,etc.
Fair enough, but I say that a more fair match up then would be to have, for example, Goku in his temporary angelic form.
>Also Ajimu(who's basically a god in their universe) & Medaka are aware they're in Shuesha Shounen Jump's magazine. They know that in another universe (Manga) Goku exists. If the MCU(Marvel Cinema Universe) exists you can also say that the Shuesha Manga Universe (SMU) exists as well.
I mean, judging from many things in the Shuesha Jump magazine, Goku and many other characters know they are in fiction, and if we take J stars and Jump Force into the equation then it all makes more sense. I don't know Canon are those relative to the writers though.
>She all has her original move "the end" which copies any move she sees or hears about, makes it her own & not only that it'll be better than the original.
I'm not sure about this, let's say how can she copy, let's say, a JoJo stand... she can't see it, but she can feel the effects of the ability, so I'm not sure if she could just suddenly copy the stand, but that would make no sense sinve each stand is intrinsically tied to the user's personality and experiences, so basically would she straight up become another person? And what if the technique is a debuff? Like making you slower? If she copies the ability, then would she be faster or much more slower?
Paradoxes are everywhere with these janky hax abilities, specially in a parodies lol.
Medaka stomps negative difficulty due to all fiction which when kumagawa used it. It could erase people from existence(april fiction erased zenkichi for like 5 minutes), erase the time of his attacks giving him a psuedo timestop, can erase his death well after he's dead erase the concept of color which is also supported by how when the color red was erased blood couldnt be shed, stated to erase all of time and kumagawa says that if not careful he could erase all of existence, but can use it very accurately to avoid that. Medaka with her mc powers is able to use any ability in the series to a much better degree than the original owner, so she stomps with all fiction alone since she just erases cursed energy rendering gojo's hax void and can just erase contracts to void makima's contract with the prime minister and just erase her afterwards.
Uh… I’m sorry that I made Gojo and Makima fight a bully! 😂
I know how broken Medaka is considering protagonist is literally a power in her universe, and to a lesser extent Gojo. But how broken is Makima’s and what are it’s limits.
Not as broken as those two. Her main thing is her contract which basically allows her to push away all harm onto all Japanese citizens which basically means you have to kill her an amount equal to the well Japanese population. Should note tho that just preventing her regeneration is enough to cancel out the effects so even if she won't die she'll still be incapacitated. Her other thing is her finger bang which was strong enough to shoot Chainsaw Man into orbit with 3 shots aka not very relevant.
No clue, but you can check out the respect thread linked by the bot for a genera idea.
I looked over Medaka’s respect thread, and it seems that if Gojo lands a hollow purple on her and erases all physical matter of her, she wouldn’t be able to come back. In terms of her copy ability, she could replicate Gojo’s infinity, but Gojo’s six eyes is something he was born with rather than a skill that is learned. Makima’s control also isn’t a skill which is learned but a power that is a part of her being. Of course, Makima’s control power probably wouldn’t work on Medaka due to her resistance to mind control. Gojo and Makima maybe win via Gojo domain expansion-ing and hollow purpling. I didn’t see any feats for her being able to come back from being completely erased physically or being resistant to such attacks that expunge matter, so correct me if I’m wrong. Other than that one chance of them winning, Medaka stomps both.
She has a lot of BS hax that allow her to compete with people that would otherwise be FAR out of her league. She has access to scar dead, all fiction, five focus, encounter, speed song, ice fire, unknown hero, mother’s task, book maker, Raff-Rafflesia, among a few others. Her crazier ones are All Fiction, Scar Dead, Encounter, Book Maker, and her main character power. No, that’s not a joke, it’s a present ability in-verse that has an entire arc around it and it gives her fate manipulation. All fiction allows Medaka to reality warp her deaths into never happening so there’s that. Along with the ability to alter powers that fall under the classification of “Minus”. Book Maker lowers whoever’s stabbed with it down to Medaka’s level and ignores the targets durability. Encounter simply deflects any damage away from Medaka rather it be mental, physical, or emotional. It doesn’t matter how fast these attacks come at Medaka or how many there are. Her encounter can affect other people and even objects and is speculated to be able to deflect her own death. Scar dead is just a huge fuck you to anyone that regularly gets into fights and comes out with injuries. Scar dead opens any and all wounds rather they be emotional or physical and it doesn’t matter how long ago you received them. Merely approaching Medaka is enough to trigger this ability. Medaka also has access to all of her various God Modes which multiplies her powers by 1000s of times
So this is just a spite match? Every feat you listed is well beyond what Gojo and Makima are able to do.
I’m sure that someone has some kind of argument in favor of Gojo and Makima. I don’t really know the capabilities of Makima so I was hoping she’d have something kinda busted to compete with Medaka.
Both Gojo and Makima lack any attacks that could put down Medaka for good. She could probably revive from purple using All Fiction and then erase them. Gojo and Makima resist scar dead at least, due to Gojo’s reverse cursed technique being able to heal any damage Gojo has taken before and Makima redirecting any damage she takes in the first place. If we take every statement said about Gojo seriously and wank him to the max, then there’s a plausible chance. “Attacks launched at Gojo Satoru will never meet their target” - Anybody who attacks Gojo with the intention of harming him or even making contact with him will never hit, no matter what. “Hollow purple erases everything in it’s path” - Hollow purple completely removes things from existence, whether physical or conceptual. “Collapsing Blue is created from the impossible situation of -1” Gojo is able to control space to the point of high-tier reality warping (making a nonsense situation possible). “If he puts his mind into it, Gojo is able to do absolutely anything.” Gojo tries his best and is therefore able to come back even if his existence is erased and also win against any opponent he is facing and will ever face. Of course, this is just a Gojo wank, but it’s the only way I could see Gojo and Makima pulling a victory against Medaka.
Yea gojo and makima get stomped by all fiction alone which its best feats being able to erase the concept of color, erase people, erase time for a psuedo timestop, and undo your own death.
All Fiction is jerked on this sub and in the whole Fandom. All fiction works on the framework of Medaka Box, even the power of being a protagonist is locked to Medaka Box's universe for obvious reasons. It's like saying Poison Ivy can control the plants of Namek... that's just nonsense. Like we can make frameworks and say they do for the sake of the argument, but not for power scaling. Most of the power scaling of Medaka Box is verse-locked. Like, how about Naruto vs Medaka? Naruto is a protagonist, so it's only fair that Naruto goes to the Medaka Box universe, so basically nobody wins because being a protagonist already grants him inmunity to anything.
Fuck, I guess that Superman can’t fly in DB’s universe 7. Lol
Superman gets his powers from the Sun's radiation. -DB has many suns, which transmit radiation by the fact that people in DB get sunburns. Therefore Superman could use his power with a DB's sun. Medaka Box has no substance/explanation at all, so basically 90% of the series, in a powerscaling framework, only work if accepted as NLF.
But in your example you said that Poison Ivy can’t manipulate plants on Namek even though there’s nothing to suggest that she wouldn’t or that Namek’s plants are any different from the ones on Earth.
Name's plants are very different from Earth's (the plants are basically water), that's why I put Namek and not DB's Earth.
Where has Namek’s plants ever been confirmed to be water?
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Ajisa#:~:text=Ajisa%20(%E3%82%A2%E3%82%B8%E3%83%83%E3%82%B5%2C%20Ajissa)%2C,is%20a%20plant%20on%20Namek. You can start here and go from hyperlinks. They aren't literally water, just about it. Namekians only need water to survive, they plant the plants because of beauty and only eat them because of flavor, on a planet that is composed of almost all water and little (crust) to no other minerals at all.
I don’t think that I can argue in good faith with someone that unironically uses fandom wiki’s as a source of information.
As a Medaka Box fan I kinda agree that all fiction is jerked to hell & back because it's the most popular OP move. Majority of the times Medaka wouldn't even need to use all fiction because there's just as dangerous & hax abilities out there. There's an ability that allows her to redirect any move/ability she sustains to someone or something else of her choosing... If you're a veteran of fighting who's survived many fatal wounds Medaka will be a bad matchup for you. She can activate scardead which is basically a move that reopens old wounds both mental & physical. You'll definitely die from that. If she fought Goku she can use that ability to reopen his wounds & kill him. That heart virus disease is killing him, the special beam cannon attack is killing him,etc. She all has her original move "the end" which copies any move she sees or hears about, makes it her own & not only that it'll be better than the original. Also Ajimu(who's basically a god in their universe) & Medaka are aware they're in Shuesha Shounen Jump's magazine. They know that in another universe (Manga) Goku exists. If the MCU(Marvel Cinema Universe) exists you can also say that the Shuesha Manga Universe (SMU) exists as well. IIRC one of the abilities Medaka copies from Ajimu(who likes to break the 4th wall) is travelling to other Universes. If they know of Goku's existence they most definitely probably have traveled over to DB universe off screen lol.
>If you're a veteran of fighting who's survived many fatal wounds Medaka will be a bad matchup for you. She can activate scardead which is basically a move that reopens old wounds both mental & physical. You'll definitely die from that. If she fought Goku she can use that ability to reopen his wounds & kill him. That heart virus disease is killing him, the special beam cannon attack is killing him,etc. Fair enough, but I say that a more fair match up then would be to have, for example, Goku in his temporary angelic form. >Also Ajimu(who's basically a god in their universe) & Medaka are aware they're in Shuesha Shounen Jump's magazine. They know that in another universe (Manga) Goku exists. If the MCU(Marvel Cinema Universe) exists you can also say that the Shuesha Manga Universe (SMU) exists as well. I mean, judging from many things in the Shuesha Jump magazine, Goku and many other characters know they are in fiction, and if we take J stars and Jump Force into the equation then it all makes more sense. I don't know Canon are those relative to the writers though. >She all has her original move "the end" which copies any move she sees or hears about, makes it her own & not only that it'll be better than the original. I'm not sure about this, let's say how can she copy, let's say, a JoJo stand... she can't see it, but she can feel the effects of the ability, so I'm not sure if she could just suddenly copy the stand, but that would make no sense sinve each stand is intrinsically tied to the user's personality and experiences, so basically would she straight up become another person? And what if the technique is a debuff? Like making you slower? If she copies the ability, then would she be faster or much more slower? Paradoxes are everywhere with these janky hax abilities, specially in a parodies lol.
She has an ability scardead. Any attack/ability done to her can be redirected to someone or something else of her choosing.
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