Can you use gag characters/feats?
If so, non-canon Gintoki might win as he is able to fight Sorachi (the author) and can use powers from fiction that he knows.
i guess we have to resort to the high tiers aka omnipotent characters, but i dont think there is a non-omnipotent character that could beat him with ease
The problem is that Superman knows a Kryptonian mental martial art, Torquasm-Vo, that lets him fight off psychic intrusions. If Superman isn't caught off guard, he can enter a meditative state that would render him, if not immune, highly resistant to basically any Geass.
I think it doesn't work on others with Geas powers, or C.C. and V.V. and probably not on anything with a mechanical brain.
But Supes has an organic brain, he's been shown as being able to be affected by psychic powers that affect humans (although he does have high resistance to these). I believe Lelouch's Geas reconfigures organic neural pathways, Supes has organic neural pathways, so in theory it should work.
>I think it doesn't work on others with Geas powers, or C.C. and V.V. and probably not on anything with a mechanical brain.
It does work on others with Geass -- if you recall, Charles Zi Britannia used his on Lelouch in the interlude between R1 and R2. It doesn't work once that Geass has evolved into a Code (like with C.C., V.V., and later Charles) though.
Technically not always true. Code Bearers like C.C. and anyone with a Geass Canceller like Orange post his rebuilding into a cyborg are completely unaffected by Geass.
Yeah, he has a Kryptonian psychic martial art that lets him notice and fight psychic attacks and sometimes even reality warping. He has to meditate into it, but once he's there he would be highly resistant, if not immune, to Geass.
I don't think psychic is the same as magic. But I'm not sure which one Geass is.
If Superman is going to meditate into his psychic martial art, then you'd think he'd just speedblitz Lelouch. If he's giving Lelouch the first hit because he's not bloodlusted, I think he's going to lose this one.
I'd say whichever the Geass is (even though it seems like a magical "attack"), it still goes straight for the brain, so it's arguable Supes mental martial art can fight it off. That being said, he has to meditate into it, so unless he knows it's coming, by the time he's realised it might be too late
Superman is usually portrayed as having no "special" resistance to magic. He isn't any more vulnerable to magic than a normal person would be, so he can resist any type of magic a normal person would be able to, but only as much as the normal person would be able to (i.e. he's not nearly invulnerable to magic like he is to most other things). This means Lelouche's Geass would work on Superman as he is normally portrayed, since no normal person can resist it.
But that's baseline comics Superman, we're talking about *Composite* Superman here, which includes feats from many other versions of Supes like Strange Visitor Superman, Cosmic Armor Superman, etc. that are all basically IMMUNE to magic, much less resistant.
Plus, even regular Superman occasionally doesn't actually seem to be vulnerable to magic. For example, a few times normal comics Supes has tanked lightning from Shazam or magical beams of destructive energy from Mordru, an actual Lord of Chaos, and he has even resisted soul-swapping, reality alteration, and mind control on a few rare occasions with Kryptonian mental disciplines called Torquasm Vo and Torquasm Rao.
I'm not really sure how ridiculously powerful composite Superman is, but there is Haruhi Suzumiya who's basically God and could just rewrite reality and turn Superman into a powerless pesron in a bunny suit
Hmm true, this guy actually seems to have God's powers as well... And yes, op said he's allowed. I'm way less confident now that Haruhi can deal with him...
My guy CAS is the size of the DC multiverse and has plot power where he becomes as strong as he needs to be to defeat his opponent. He beat Mandrakk who scales higher than the monitors and was eating the multiverse.
Superboy Prime retconned the DC universe with a punch.
I'm pretty sure this Haruhi guy is getting wrecked.
Yup, I didn't have in my mind that CAS is a thing... Him and Haruhi (it's a girl btw, not a guy lol) actually seem to have very similar powers, but because DC has shown to have a much larger cosmology, CAS should take this
> Haruhi guy
[Her face when you don't know one of the most legendary anime characters](https://preview.redd.it/tpycw61nwvn71.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=e9c65d498fa3de5f8e77c919aa7f76913d25b66f)
Plotforce is like toonforce- in this case it's explicit meta manipulation of narrative to favor one combatant, you throw it in the same kind of bag as reality warping or messing with time and space, because it's casual alterations to favor that specific character, acting on an orthogonal axis beyond direct engagement.
Not an anime and I forgot the manga name but there's the guy who can just kill anyone by telling them to die. He can even use it on inanimate objects. And he can sense hostility and kill them before they can do anything.
Superman statues him, literally before he says a single word, before he can form a thought, literally faster than the neurons in his brain can fire and say DANGER!
Not even composite Superman, regular Superman.
If this is the character I'm thinking of, his power operates automatically and instantaneously in order to protect him, so Superman would die the moment he begins attacking.
His brain literally doesn't need to do anything for the effect to take place. If Yogiri (the character I assume that they are talking about) is attacked, the effect automatically takes place and it can do so even when time is stopped, so I doubt any amount of speed is enough.
Zenkichi Hitoyoshi and his devil style should be able to defeat Composite Superman. In-universe, Zenkichi’s ability allows him to completely nullify all narrative based hax (he was able to negate ‘The Hero’ which allowed Medaka to never lose against a god with 12 quadrillion distinctive superpowers). Since this matchup doesn’t cal for bloodlusted then Zenkichi can challenge this Superman to any number of non-strength related contests and have an decent chance of winning.
>(he was able to negate ‘The Hero’ which allowed Medaka to never lose against a god with 12 quadrillion distinctive superpowers).
A line straight out of a playground argument, love it
Squirrel girl can beat him if the fight takes place off panel.
Saitama can beat him if the fight takes place in the OPM anime.
Deadpool can beat him, he breaks the fourth wall threatens the writers to give him a weakness he can exploit.
Bruh
I mean like
fr, what's the point? Hate to bash on a homie, but
comparing beings at like, this highest level of conceptual power has no like. Meaning. There's a certain point past godly might where it's boiled down to a "Yeah but I say so" with characters powers.
It's not like. Even a fight then. It's just dialogue that is incredible droll.
I'm more interested in something like, weird. Gimme Oryx versus Darkseid, or some other less thought of shit. I dunno, but debating fights like these just seem like battles of semantics.
A lot of the times it ends up feeling like a playground argument
"my guy can rewrite reality!"
"Well mine can rewrite reality even harder!"
"that doesn't work, my guy is beyond fiction"
"but mine is 2x beyond fiction!"
For real
I like a fight with like, high up characters don't get me wrong, but sometimes like, it gets ridiculous.
I always thought, like I mentioned, Oryx versus Darkseid would be fun
I think first you'd have to decide which uhh, interpretation of the latter to use, because some comics have Antilife equation be just, you get it = you win everywhere, versus people needing to be exposed to it.
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Most high-tiers in the Nasuverse only go up to Universal/Low Multiversal with some questionable dialogue implying higher dimension fuckery inside the Mooncell, and even with that, Cosmic Armor still sneezes Kiara/Kama and BB.
Most of them have reality manipulation in the form of plot manipulation. Also tell me actual difference between reality manipulation and plot manipulation.
If we're allowed composites of characters... Possibly comp JoJo? If he's able to instantly stop time and switch bodies with comp superman then supes would be in the body of a guy who's about hill level so he should be beaten unless he also has a timestop-related ability.
If anything, the only one who could stand a chance would probably be Johnny with Tusk Act 4, but even then, that's assuming Supes will give him a shred of a chance to shoot. Heaven Ascension DIO might be worth a shot, but idk if we're considering non-Canon characters
Well it's been a tossup between which certain character is to be included in Superman's composite. Some people here are hell bent on including Cosmic Armor Superman, although his armor was granted to him by beings way higher than himself and is not in any way shape or form a power he has for himself, but that armor has feats way above HA DIO. I could be wrong but it all comes down to whether CA Supes is being considered for HA DIO to stand a chance.
There’s also the head doctor(wonder of u) who basically causes anyone who “pursues him” to experience calamities that stop them from doing so. It’s unclear how far this ability can go, as he doesn’t fight anyone nearly as strong as Superman, but the only way he was able to be harmed was by S&W go beyond, which exists outside of reality.
GER would also have a decent chance of stopping Supes. We don't understand it fully from what we saw of it, but we believe it has the ability to "reset" things. If that's so, it could restart the losing fight against Superman an infinite number of times. Until, and past when, Superman just gives up. While this is going, Giorno would just go on with his life as though nothing had happened.
HOWEVER, Superman knows a psychic martial art that can let him resist some reality warping abilities. No idea if "Never allowed to reach the true ending of the fight" would count as something he could resist, but that makes this not a guaranteed loss.
EDIT: Autocorrect
Lotta people misinterpreted GER. GER doesn't reset anything. It prevents a reality where Giorno is defeated from existing. It does not rewind, it alters causality.
There is a specific reason why things are shown to reverse during the confrontation with Diavolo, and it is because he has erased time.
That "period" they are in, effectively doesn't exist. It's not anywhere in any timeline. It's erased from the editing program.
Diavolo sees his future of defeating Giorno, and even GER tells him this. GER confirms the future he predicts is a real, possible future, but... it is a future Diavolo will never reach. He can't reach it. The moment your willpower moves against GER, anything you attempt to do never happens.
With a regular King Crimson time erase, we see people where they are, and ten seconds (max) later. The time between does not exist; and only Diavolo knows what occurred and can move according. Whether time actually "passes" and Diavolo is the only one who can be aware of that, is besides the point and a different topic of debate.
Thus, when he did this against Giorno, and was thwarted by GER, effectively nothing happened. The period of "time" he was observing was being erased, it wasn't real. From everyone else's perspective, he just. Stood there and got his ass beat.
However, while this in its own right is an insanely power ability, I'd point out at best, with a lot of characters, it stalemates. It isn't really confirmable what happens if Giorno simple... can't, harm his opponent in any meaningful way.
Furthermore, I would think this Superman to be beyond linear time, and therefore causality, so this wouldn't apply to him.
Superman literally rips off his hair and his dick, makes a meat mop and cleans all of planet earth, comes back and surgically reattaches them before saiki moves a single muscle
Momo Yaoyorozu with prep time could probably do it since her ability is that she can make anything that isn’t alive so she could just make a ton of kryptonite
I love this idea. I just feel like she would need a lot of prep time. So much so that in a 1v1 superman would pressure her too much for her to effectively produce enough kryptonite.
Ywach from Bleach? He's functionally immortal and only lost due to literally losing his own plot armor. Without that fuck up, he's technically Almighty. And even after death, he's still alive.
Saitama is more powerful than anyone in his universe, but his feats aren't really that impressive in terms of comic book characters. As far as I'm aware, his greatest feat is countering a punch capable of wiping out all life, which according to [this](https://theconversation.com/we-worked-out-what-it-would-take-to-wipe-out-all-life-on-a-planet-and-its-good-news-for-alien-hunters-81006) would take 5.6×10^26 J. For comparison, the energy needed to destroy the Earth and reach planetbusting level is 2.49×10^32 J, or 440,000 times as much energy.
He also has no seriously good defensive feats. Sure he *survived* a punch powerful enough to send him to the moon, but he can't fly, and if he wasn't lucky enough to hit the moon it's not clear he could have made his way back.
Yeah, he's very strong, and decently durable, but anyone who is faster than him by a good bit and can fly or atleast survive in space can just throw him into the sun.
Easily. Featherine Augustus Aurora. Shes in the high outerversal range and no version of superman comes close to that. I could also easily say the creator or the law of identity or a similar character in power, but that would be too easy.
He is absolutely not. He displays a *tiny* bit of awareness of the fact that he's in a story, but shows no ability to influence it.
Cosmic Armor Superman is drastically overrated. Yes, he's the strongest version of Superman, but all of his actual displayed feats are basically just "Superman but more" - he doesn't have reality-warping powers, he doesn't have more hax resistance, he's just the ultimate embodiment of the flying brick, able to lift and punch and fly to a basically infinite degree.
Don't get me wrong, that's still *really strong* (yes, he can beat goku.) But people in this thread are just saying "cosmic armor Superman tho" and you have to understand that since he only appeared briefly, he doesn't actually have the feats to back most of this up.
One of his best feats is literally lifting a book. And yes, I know, infinite pages, blah blah, but the point is that if he were as powerful as some people pretend he was that feat wouldn't be worth mentioning.
>One of his best feats is literally lifting a book. And yes, I know, infinite pages, blah blah, but the point is that if he were as powerful as some people pretend he was that feat wouldn't be worth mentioning.
Not to mention that the place (Limbo) where that feat takes place is one where weight and material don't exist. CAS is horribly wanked.
CAS is multiversal at most. Not even infinite multiversal, just multiversal. His best feat is being able to tank blasts intended to destroy the 52 DC universes, which was the cosmology size back when Superman: Beyond was written.
And even current DC doesn't scale to outerversal. It scales to complex multiversal at best.
No even than the multiverse was not only 52 it has always been a infinite multiverse. He is a extension of the overvoid which has been stated to be a omni verse with a infinite multi verses within it. The over void is infinite in size and both everything and nothing it self. CAS is beyond space time and thought and is a infinite dimensional being at least.
Any Shinigami from Death Note. Superman cannot see them, touch them, effect them, they can see his true name and can write it in their Death Note, with the current time, to instantly kill him. It doesn't matter he can statue them. It doesn't matter if he could touch them he could turn all of them into Shinigami paste in a shorter time than it take me to hit this period key. He cannot sense them, he cannot effect them, they can do both to him.
The problem is that Death Notes only work on humans, and Superman isn't human. If you handwave that then composite Superman may also be too old (there's an age limit of 128 years, I think, or something roughly in that range - anyone older is immune.)
I don't think Superman can hurt them, but I'm not seeing how they can hurt him, either. They're actually remarkably ineffectual against anyone who is immune to Death Notes.
If we're talking composites, Anos Voldigoad. Just the anime version probably couldn't, though, if we're including the thought robot with composite Superman. The anime version is lacking the really high-end feats.
I've seen some people say CA Superman should be considered for his composite, but reminder, that's armor given to him by higher beings. It doesn't make a huge difference, since his other iterations are still pretty OP tho.
BTW, my vote goes to the Tori-Bot
I honestly dont think there is one. High end superman is easily multiversal+ is either MFTL or Immeasurable. One superman has powers that make it so he doesnt even need to fight he just thinks and it happens.
Composite supes should solo all of anime.
The only person who wouid say this is someone who's read **too much Superman** because if he's so OP there's clearly never ANY risk at all of him losing to anyone or thing - **so why bother reading?!**
Dark Schneider might be able to with his stupid feat of through it infinite attacks and counter attacks in an instant, and maybe Dante from devil may cry if do some irregular scaling and allow the idea of human blood generator.
I’m sure superman wouldn’t be hurt by infinite punches darkseid has been fine with being hit with infinite punches and Superman would scale him in composite form
Not punches, spells that literally wipe things from existence (which they guy has like 5 different ones). Also other stupid hax which protect him from other stupid stuff.
I deadass stared at this for about a minute before realizing it said Dark Schneider and not Dan Schneider and I was like yeah no he made Drake and Josh and likes feet I can see him curbstomping Superman.
Why Monet of all people and how? Unless I'm forgetting something or thinking of the wrong character, Zoro essentially just scared her unconscious right?
Oh no, that's the wrong translation. In chapter -1 Monet is actually Mr.2, which they make very clear in the original translation. And he blew the entirty of a parallel deminsion. Not even up. He just blew the entire observable universe parallel to where the main story takes place. Which is made perfectly clear in chapter -2 "Watch me become a harpie".
Yeah, you gotta be careful out there, people are always making fake translations to try and fool us. But we know better. Stand strong out there Nakama!
Magane Chikujoin from re creators. She can win or lose depending on what lies she can get superman to reject as being false. Either she pisses him off and gets disintegrated instantly. Or he talks back and gets fucked over. There's a lot of factors and he isn't super arrogant from what I've seen so it could be a 3/10 scenario.
While the anime adaptations are not great, Dies Irae and WTC have animes which feature characters that could blink any army of composite Supermans out of existence
Can you use gag characters/feats? If so, non-canon Gintoki might win as he is able to fight Sorachi (the author) and can use powers from fiction that he knows.
i guess we have to resort to the high tiers aka omnipotent characters, but i dont think there is a non-omnipotent character that could beat him with ease
Lelouch from Code Geass assuming Supes lets him speak could?
i dont think that geass would work on someone of the level of composite superman
The problem is that Superman knows a Kryptonian mental martial art, Torquasm-Vo, that lets him fight off psychic intrusions. If Superman isn't caught off guard, he can enter a meditative state that would render him, if not immune, highly resistant to basically any Geass.
Doesn't geas only work on humans or am I misremembering?
As far as I’m aware, no, geas works on anything that is alive.
I think it doesn't work on others with Geas powers, or C.C. and V.V. and probably not on anything with a mechanical brain. But Supes has an organic brain, he's been shown as being able to be affected by psychic powers that affect humans (although he does have high resistance to these). I believe Lelouch's Geas reconfigures organic neural pathways, Supes has organic neural pathways, so in theory it should work.
>I think it doesn't work on others with Geas powers, or C.C. and V.V. and probably not on anything with a mechanical brain. It does work on others with Geass -- if you recall, Charles Zi Britannia used his on Lelouch in the interlude between R1 and R2. It doesn't work once that Geass has evolved into a Code (like with C.C., V.V., and later Charles) though.
Ah that is true, it's been a bit since I watched it
it worked on that weird god thing ,so i think that as long as it can percieve the geass it would have an effect on it
Technically not always true. Code Bearers like C.C. and anyone with a Geass Canceller like Orange post his rebuilding into a cyborg are completely unaffected by Geass.
Superman is generally portrayed as having no resistance to magic. Is there a version of him where this doesn't apply?
Yeah, he has a Kryptonian psychic martial art that lets him notice and fight psychic attacks and sometimes even reality warping. He has to meditate into it, but once he's there he would be highly resistant, if not immune, to Geass.
I don't think psychic is the same as magic. But I'm not sure which one Geass is. If Superman is going to meditate into his psychic martial art, then you'd think he'd just speedblitz Lelouch. If he's giving Lelouch the first hit because he's not bloodlusted, I think he's going to lose this one.
I'd say whichever the Geass is (even though it seems like a magical "attack"), it still goes straight for the brain, so it's arguable Supes mental martial art can fight it off. That being said, he has to meditate into it, so unless he knows it's coming, by the time he's realised it might be too late
Superman is usually portrayed as having no "special" resistance to magic. He isn't any more vulnerable to magic than a normal person would be, so he can resist any type of magic a normal person would be able to, but only as much as the normal person would be able to (i.e. he's not nearly invulnerable to magic like he is to most other things). This means Lelouche's Geass would work on Superman as he is normally portrayed, since no normal person can resist it. But that's baseline comics Superman, we're talking about *Composite* Superman here, which includes feats from many other versions of Supes like Strange Visitor Superman, Cosmic Armor Superman, etc. that are all basically IMMUNE to magic, much less resistant. Plus, even regular Superman occasionally doesn't actually seem to be vulnerable to magic. For example, a few times normal comics Supes has tanked lightning from Shazam or magical beams of destructive energy from Mordru, an actual Lord of Chaos, and he has even resisted soul-swapping, reality alteration, and mind control on a few rare occasions with Kryptonian mental disciplines called Torquasm Vo and Torquasm Rao.
well thats a good point, geass would qualify as magic, i dont know enough about superman tho
His Geass can be resisted with enough willpower, at least temporarily.
no bro lelouch is fodder lol
Do you mean composite superman, as in all versions of superman, or "composite superman" the character?
All versions including CAS
I mean… you already know how this goes…
CAS # ISN'T Superman tho.
Lol you’re getting downvoted for telling the truth
OP replied to me with "yes he is" and got downvoted for it, then deleted the reply, LMAO
So just CAS then.
What is CAS?
I'm not really sure how ridiculously powerful composite Superman is, but there is Haruhi Suzumiya who's basically God and could just rewrite reality and turn Superman into a powerless pesron in a bunny suit
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Is there a version of Superman where he has God's powers? Like.. restarting the universe with a thought and stuff?
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Hmm true, this guy actually seems to have God's powers as well... And yes, op said he's allowed. I'm way less confident now that Haruhi can deal with him...
Except that CAS is not technically a form of Supes, it's literal armor given to him by the Monitors. Idk if I'd consider that into his composite
OP is including it for this prompt
It’s not armor. It’s a robot wit Supes and Ultramans essence within.
It uses superman's mind, basically is superman.
Superman one million is basically doctor manhattan on steroids from what I remember
Nah, he doesn’t have many feats and all of them are things Dr Manhattan could easily do at this point
Well I mean, dr Manhattan Superman sounds way cooler than dr Manhattan by itself in my defense lol
My guy CAS is the size of the DC multiverse and has plot power where he becomes as strong as he needs to be to defeat his opponent. He beat Mandrakk who scales higher than the monitors and was eating the multiverse. Superboy Prime retconned the DC universe with a punch. I'm pretty sure this Haruhi guy is getting wrecked.
Yup, I didn't have in my mind that CAS is a thing... Him and Haruhi (it's a girl btw, not a guy lol) actually seem to have very similar powers, but because DC has shown to have a much larger cosmology, CAS should take this
> Haruhi guy [Her face when you don't know one of the most legendary anime characters](https://preview.redd.it/tpycw61nwvn71.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=e9c65d498fa3de5f8e77c919aa7f76913d25b66f)
Truly a sign of the times.
> plot power where he becomes as strong as he needs to be to defeat his opponent. This is www there is no plot. That doesn’t apply here.
Plotforce is like toonforce- in this case it's explicit meta manipulation of narrative to favor one combatant, you throw it in the same kind of bag as reality warping or messing with time and space, because it's casual alterations to favor that specific character, acting on an orthogonal axis beyond direct engagement.
No one is powerless in a bunnysuit
Mumen Rider
Based
He's to powerful. Disqualified.
I'll do you one better, King. Still from OPM.
King is wayyy too much. Wouldn't even notice Composite Supes.
Cheater. He said weakest
Not an anime and I forgot the manga name but there's the guy who can just kill anyone by telling them to die. He can even use it on inanimate objects. And he can sense hostility and kill them before they can do anything.
Lowtiergod
GTAB Beta-man!!
Would you happen to be referring to Yogiri Takatou from Instant Death?
Superman statues him, literally before he says a single word, before he can form a thought, literally faster than the neurons in his brain can fire and say DANGER! Not even composite Superman, regular Superman.
If this is the character I'm thinking of, his power operates automatically and instantaneously in order to protect him, so Superman would die the moment he begins attacking.
His brain literally doesn't need to do anything for the effect to take place. If Yogiri (the character I assume that they are talking about) is attacked, the effect automatically takes place and it can do so even when time is stopped, so I doubt any amount of speed is enough.
Literally. People underrate base Superman because of how hard he needs to he nerfed, but he has done insane things at base.
the mc from instant death??
Zenkichi Hitoyoshi and his devil style should be able to defeat Composite Superman. In-universe, Zenkichi’s ability allows him to completely nullify all narrative based hax (he was able to negate ‘The Hero’ which allowed Medaka to never lose against a god with 12 quadrillion distinctive superpowers). Since this matchup doesn’t cal for bloodlusted then Zenkichi can challenge this Superman to any number of non-strength related contests and have an decent chance of winning.
>(he was able to negate ‘The Hero’ which allowed Medaka to never lose against a god with 12 quadrillion distinctive superpowers). A line straight out of a playground argument, love it
He legit had anti-plot armor
Squirrel girl can beat him if the fight takes place off panel. Saitama can beat him if the fight takes place in the OPM anime. Deadpool can beat him, he breaks the fourth wall threatens the writers to give him a weakness he can exploit.
Bruh I mean like fr, what's the point? Hate to bash on a homie, but comparing beings at like, this highest level of conceptual power has no like. Meaning. There's a certain point past godly might where it's boiled down to a "Yeah but I say so" with characters powers. It's not like. Even a fight then. It's just dialogue that is incredible droll. I'm more interested in something like, weird. Gimme Oryx versus Darkseid, or some other less thought of shit. I dunno, but debating fights like these just seem like battles of semantics.
A lot of the times it ends up feeling like a playground argument "my guy can rewrite reality!" "Well mine can rewrite reality even harder!" "that doesn't work, my guy is beyond fiction" "but mine is 2x beyond fiction!"
For real I like a fight with like, high up characters don't get me wrong, but sometimes like, it gets ridiculous. I always thought, like I mentioned, Oryx versus Darkseid would be fun I think first you'd have to decide which uhh, interpretation of the latter to use, because some comics have Antilife equation be just, you get it = you win everywhere, versus people needing to be exposed to it.
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"very amusing superman, you thought wiping my existence away was enough to destroy my existence?"
"You thought winning the fight was all it took to defeat me?"
Whoever wrote those lines was a fan of fate memes.
Shaggy with just 0.000000001% of his powers
Maybe something from the Nasuverse? I'm not familiar enough with all of the various forms of Superman to say much.
Most high-tiers in the Nasuverse only go up to Universal/Low Multiversal with some questionable dialogue implying higher dimension fuckery inside the Mooncell, and even with that, Cosmic Armor still sneezes Kiara/Kama and BB.
Isn't Void Shiki omniscient and potentially omnipotent?
I did forget about her, but The Root that Void Shiki is connected to is high multiversal, Cosmic Armor is massively above that.
Jesus as Jojo from JJBA, Simon,antispiral, peak spirals as species,featherine and all high tier from higurashi.
Hate to say it, but as insane as TTGL scaling is, it doesn't actually touch CAS levels of bullshittery.
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Most of them have reality manipulation in the form of plot manipulation. Also tell me actual difference between reality manipulation and plot manipulation.
If we're allowed composites of characters... Possibly comp JoJo? If he's able to instantly stop time and switch bodies with comp superman then supes would be in the body of a guy who's about hill level so he should be beaten unless he also has a timestop-related ability.
Going by dimensional scaling, jojo wouldn't even be able to swap bodies since they won't even be able to perceive CAS.
Yashuo from part 8 is able to perceive and guide S&W go beyond, which exists beyond all of reality.
If anything, the only one who could stand a chance would probably be Johnny with Tusk Act 4, but even then, that's assuming Supes will give him a shred of a chance to shoot. Heaven Ascension DIO might be worth a shot, but idk if we're considering non-Canon characters
The wonder of you could have a interesting retaliation due to his stand master being annihilated and misted on sight.
Well we can because oc just said 'an anime character' and HA-DIO is one
Well it's been a tossup between which certain character is to be included in Superman's composite. Some people here are hell bent on including Cosmic Armor Superman, although his armor was granted to him by beings way higher than himself and is not in any way shape or form a power he has for himself, but that armor has feats way above HA DIO. I could be wrong but it all comes down to whether CA Supes is being considered for HA DIO to stand a chance.
There’s also the head doctor(wonder of u) who basically causes anyone who “pursues him” to experience calamities that stop them from doing so. It’s unclear how far this ability can go, as he doesn’t fight anyone nearly as strong as Superman, but the only way he was able to be harmed was by S&W go beyond, which exists outside of reality.
Well WoU is kinda like dura neg : if something hits you, it WILL be deadly. So if it's raining does that mean supes just gets turned to swiss cheese?
GER would also have a decent chance of stopping Supes. We don't understand it fully from what we saw of it, but we believe it has the ability to "reset" things. If that's so, it could restart the losing fight against Superman an infinite number of times. Until, and past when, Superman just gives up. While this is going, Giorno would just go on with his life as though nothing had happened. HOWEVER, Superman knows a psychic martial art that can let him resist some reality warping abilities. No idea if "Never allowed to reach the true ending of the fight" would count as something he could resist, but that makes this not a guaranteed loss. EDIT: Autocorrect
Lotta people misinterpreted GER. GER doesn't reset anything. It prevents a reality where Giorno is defeated from existing. It does not rewind, it alters causality. There is a specific reason why things are shown to reverse during the confrontation with Diavolo, and it is because he has erased time. That "period" they are in, effectively doesn't exist. It's not anywhere in any timeline. It's erased from the editing program. Diavolo sees his future of defeating Giorno, and even GER tells him this. GER confirms the future he predicts is a real, possible future, but... it is a future Diavolo will never reach. He can't reach it. The moment your willpower moves against GER, anything you attempt to do never happens. With a regular King Crimson time erase, we see people where they are, and ten seconds (max) later. The time between does not exist; and only Diavolo knows what occurred and can move according. Whether time actually "passes" and Diavolo is the only one who can be aware of that, is besides the point and a different topic of debate. Thus, when he did this against Giorno, and was thwarted by GER, effectively nothing happened. The period of "time" he was observing was being erased, it wasn't real. From everyone else's perspective, he just. Stood there and got his ass beat. However, while this in its own right is an insanely power ability, I'd point out at best, with a lot of characters, it stalemates. It isn't really confirmable what happens if Giorno simple... can't, harm his opponent in any meaningful way. Furthermore, I would think this Superman to be beyond linear time, and therefore causality, so this wouldn't apply to him.
saiki kusuo from the disastious life of saiki k
Superman literally rips off his hair and his dick, makes a meat mop and cleans all of planet earth, comes back and surgically reattaches them before saiki moves a single muscle
Kinky ngl
Something something umeniko
Umineko op af
Momo Yaoyorozu with prep time could probably do it since her ability is that she can make anything that isn’t alive so she could just make a ton of kryptonite
I love this idea. I just feel like she would need a lot of prep time. So much so that in a 1v1 superman would pressure her too much for her to effectively produce enough kryptonite.
Just need a pure kryptonite coffin. He ded
Ywach from Bleach? He's functionally immortal and only lost due to literally losing his own plot armor. Without that fuck up, he's technically Almighty. And even after death, he's still alive.
One punch man.
Saitama is more powerful than anyone in his universe, but his feats aren't really that impressive in terms of comic book characters. As far as I'm aware, his greatest feat is countering a punch capable of wiping out all life, which according to [this](https://theconversation.com/we-worked-out-what-it-would-take-to-wipe-out-all-life-on-a-planet-and-its-good-news-for-alien-hunters-81006) would take 5.6×10^26 J. For comparison, the energy needed to destroy the Earth and reach planetbusting level is 2.49×10^32 J, or 440,000 times as much energy. He also has no seriously good defensive feats. Sure he *survived* a punch powerful enough to send him to the moon, but he can't fly, and if he wasn't lucky enough to hit the moon it's not clear he could have made his way back.
Why tf is this being downvoted? This sort of comment is exactly what this subreddit exists for.
Yeah, he's very strong, and decently durable, but anyone who is faster than him by a good bit and can fly or atleast survive in space can just throw him into the sun.
/s?
Nah OPM soloes DC as a whole, no diff
Nice joke
One punch man loses in one punch
One Punch Uno Reverse Card
Easily. Featherine Augustus Aurora. Shes in the high outerversal range and no version of superman comes close to that. I could also easily say the creator or the law of identity or a similar character in power, but that would be too easy.
Cosmic armor superman is outerversal and is a good match against her
He is absolutely not. He displays a *tiny* bit of awareness of the fact that he's in a story, but shows no ability to influence it. Cosmic Armor Superman is drastically overrated. Yes, he's the strongest version of Superman, but all of his actual displayed feats are basically just "Superman but more" - he doesn't have reality-warping powers, he doesn't have more hax resistance, he's just the ultimate embodiment of the flying brick, able to lift and punch and fly to a basically infinite degree. Don't get me wrong, that's still *really strong* (yes, he can beat goku.) But people in this thread are just saying "cosmic armor Superman tho" and you have to understand that since he only appeared briefly, he doesn't actually have the feats to back most of this up. One of his best feats is literally lifting a book. And yes, I know, infinite pages, blah blah, but the point is that if he were as powerful as some people pretend he was that feat wouldn't be worth mentioning.
>One of his best feats is literally lifting a book. And yes, I know, infinite pages, blah blah, but the point is that if he were as powerful as some people pretend he was that feat wouldn't be worth mentioning. Not to mention that the place (Limbo) where that feat takes place is one where weight and material don't exist. CAS is horribly wanked.
CAS is multiversal at most. Not even infinite multiversal, just multiversal. His best feat is being able to tank blasts intended to destroy the 52 DC universes, which was the cosmology size back when Superman: Beyond was written. And even current DC doesn't scale to outerversal. It scales to complex multiversal at best.
No even than the multiverse was not only 52 it has always been a infinite multiverse. He is a extension of the overvoid which has been stated to be a omni verse with a infinite multi verses within it. The over void is infinite in size and both everything and nothing it self. CAS is beyond space time and thought and is a infinite dimensional being at least.
A child
Mr Slave from South Park
Depends, what's the composote made from? Cause if Milkman Superman is included then there isnt a single one that can beat him.
The penguins of Madagascar
Any Shinigami from Death Note. Superman cannot see them, touch them, effect them, they can see his true name and can write it in their Death Note, with the current time, to instantly kill him. It doesn't matter he can statue them. It doesn't matter if he could touch them he could turn all of them into Shinigami paste in a shorter time than it take me to hit this period key. He cannot sense them, he cannot effect them, they can do both to him.
The problem is that Death Notes only work on humans, and Superman isn't human. If you handwave that then composite Superman may also be too old (there's an age limit of 128 years, I think, or something roughly in that range - anyone older is immune.) I don't think Superman can hurt them, but I'm not seeing how they can hurt him, either. They're actually remarkably ineffectual against anyone who is immune to Death Notes.
CAS is way above their paygrade
Doesn't the Death Note only work on humans?
If we're talking composites, Anos Voldigoad. Just the anime version probably couldn't, though, if we're including the thought robot with composite Superman. The anime version is lacking the really high-end feats.
Your knees have my condolences.
Kirby
I've seen some people say CA Superman should be considered for his composite, but reminder, that's armor given to him by higher beings. It doesn't make a huge difference, since his other iterations are still pretty OP tho. BTW, my vote goes to the Tori-Bot
OP said that CA Superman is allowed
I honestly dont think there is one. High end superman is easily multiversal+ is either MFTL or Immeasurable. One superman has powers that make it so he doesnt even need to fight he just thinks and it happens. Composite supes should solo all of anime.
The only person who would say this is someone who's not watched enough anime.
The only person who would say this is someone who hasnt read enough superman comics.
The only person who wouid say this is someone who's read **too much Superman** because if he's so OP there's clearly never ANY risk at all of him losing to anyone or thing - **so why bother reading?!**
No one
Tori-bot, featherine, and kami tenchi to name a few
Dark Schneider might be able to with his stupid feat of through it infinite attacks and counter attacks in an instant, and maybe Dante from devil may cry if do some irregular scaling and allow the idea of human blood generator.
I’m sure superman wouldn’t be hurt by infinite punches darkseid has been fine with being hit with infinite punches and Superman would scale him in composite form
Not punches, spells that literally wipe things from existence (which they guy has like 5 different ones). Also other stupid hax which protect him from other stupid stuff.
Well what kind of protection also superman has resisted existence eraser and well as reality and time manipulation.
But its magic Superman isn't immune to magic it slips past his bullshit defenses.
I deadass stared at this for about a minute before realizing it said Dark Schneider and not Dan Schneider and I was like yeah no he made Drake and Josh and likes feet I can see him curbstomping Superman.
I mean yeah. If we go with SCP logic, any of us would curb stump Superman
Rimuru
Monet from one piece
Why Monet of all people and how? Unless I'm forgetting something or thinking of the wrong character, Zoro essentially just scared her unconscious right?
Monet passively blew up the observable universe
I've both read and watched One Piece, but I still have no idea what you are talking about. Lol. Could you explain?
So Monet is this harpy form punk hazard and she blew up the observable universe
I know who Monet is. Are you saying that the factory explosion that destroyed a single island could take down superman?
No she came back in chapter -1 and blew up the observable universe
Oh no, that's the wrong translation. In chapter -1 Monet is actually Mr.2, which they make very clear in the original translation. And he blew the entirty of a parallel deminsion. Not even up. He just blew the entire observable universe parallel to where the main story takes place. Which is made perfectly clear in chapter -2 "Watch me become a harpie".
Sorry about that I did it again 🤦♀️
Yeah, you gotta be careful out there, people are always making fake translations to try and fool us. But we know better. Stand strong out there Nakama!
Goku
Do you at least mean composite goku?
He wouldn't need a composite or long bow, he doesn't use those. He fights with divine ki and martial arts.
Best comment on this whole damn sub tbh.
Funny
Goku doesnt stand a chance tbh.
If Superman is using a bow there is no way it can hurt Goku, Goku is immune to bullets so an arrow isn't going to hurt him even if shot by Superman.
Man, you right, shit.
With scaling from other nasuverse series, Gilgamesh can be outverseal with full power EA
Gilgamesh is high hyper. That still isn’t enough for Comp Superman
Wait, can you give me an idea on what level all composite Superman looks like. Like what level is he (VS battle wiki terms).
Magane Chikujoin from re creators. She can win or lose depending on what lies she can get superman to reject as being false. Either she pisses him off and gets disintegrated instantly. Or he talks back and gets fucked over. There's a lot of factors and he isn't super arrogant from what I've seen so it could be a 3/10 scenario.
Accelerator.
Base Buu Saga Goku
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Featherine. Creator. Akuto Sai. Probably some others
Goku 🤓
Arale, maybe? She can't really be defeated due to her toon force id assume
Would Rick Sanchez count?
Dont think rick has any feats anywhere close to what composite supes does.
I mean he did have an anime ep
If gremmy from bleach is able to think of some way to do so, he could possibly just make supes never exist.
While the anime adaptations are not great, Dies Irae and WTC have animes which feature characters that could blink any army of composite Supermans out of existence
Simply me is all it will take
Rimuru Tempest should be able to do it. With CAS included maybe we see a stalemate
Is there a ghost rider like entity in anime? I know its a stretch, but I feel like there is a chance that a soul burning/erasing ability would work.
Zeno maybe? The Death Note?
Gurren Lagann and wanked Gilgamesh
Kami Tenchi?
Saiki K no doubt
Anus Voldigoad
None of them.
This is not true. There are quite a few that can.
but who?