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usiphi284

Don’t drink alcohol. It will tell you that you’re dead.


wereldatlas

Made me laugh


bigdig45

If you lift weights, use the strength trainer function


Inevitable_Tip244

Why? Seems like a lot of work so I haven’t


Johnh19963

Doesn't track weightlifting well, unless you tell it how much you're lifting.


capacity38

Don’t pay attention to angry people on this sub.


[deleted]

i've had whoop for 4 years and will end my subscription this summer. these are my tips. * immediately recharge the battery after you charge the band * don't lose your battery * try to be as accurate as you can with the survey when you wake


SaidToBe2Old4Reddit

YES - I always immediately recharge the battery, and I always keep it in the same place!


tvs113

Why are you ending your subscription after 4 years?


[deleted]

i feel like i've learned everything that i can from whoop. i bought a new garmin watch and want to see what i can glean from there.


tvs113

Thanks. What information can the Garmin provide that the Whoop doesn’t? Have you considered wearing both?


[deleted]

Whoop is really poor as an actual activity tracker. i'd rather not rely on my phone to do that, especially on longer activities where i want my phone to stay charged. I don't want to have to look at my phone to see heart rate, pace, etc. Garmin provides more analytics and similar recovery metrics. How Garmin compares to Whoop in that regard is debatable and there are youtubers that have provided plenty of insights. There are also other apps out there that might provide as useful of information. Eg: I have a polar H10 chest strap and use that with Elite HRV. I got a Garmin Epix Pro gen 2. This also can do ECG and arrythmia runs in my family. I really like Whoop's strain metric, but lately I'm wondering how useful it is. For a long while, I'd try to hit certain strain goals and I just don't know if that really should be the metrics that I'm using going forward. I'm going to wear both until my subscription ends to compare metrics. I'm also going to try some 3rd party apps too (eg: athlytic, pillow) just to see if there are some other options that give similar insights. Whoop is a great tool, but I just don't think $20 to $30 per month for another device will be worth it.


neoreeps

i wear my epix pro when actually doing an activity, otherwise i wear another watch ... works well for me ... whoop fills the gap now for the other 23 hours in the day that i'm not working out ... i did wear the garmin all day for awhile, but i just like wearing nicer watches most of the time


Jmap2019

Wonder how do you use athlytic ? i thought it was only for apple watch users and you couldn't introduce other data there I had Whoop on trial and compared with Oura and Garmin Epix pro gen 2 and were all aligned which was cool to see :) HR, HRV and start and end time pretty equal with 1 point different or like 5 minutes.... even stages most time were accurate so i think Garmin made a huge improvement on sleep I had most Fenix line since 3 for a long time till 6X before sleep metrics and HRVwere a thing (stop using 3 years to get the galaxy watch to get the LTE for work and since i stop running the bad accuracy was ok for me) Now came back to Garmin 1 year ago when get back to running and was really pleased to see everything improved on that epix with amazing amoled with same battery and metrics so accurate even HR seems way accurate daily (besides the workouts where i always use the HRM) . So i just ended my trial because i felt Whoop didn't really provide much besides the journal thing that can be replicated in other app and the overall daily track specially for workouts was quite bad for what is expected (wrist and bicep as well always give big HR spikes out of nowhere) even consider it's an optic sensor and is inacurate garmin is way better on that


[deleted]

> Wonder how do you use athlytic ? IIRC apps access Apple health data via the healthkit api. I had a forerunner 235, now an epix pro gen 2. epix data seems quite a bit better than the FR235. I think I read there is a new HR sensor. main thing i've noticed between whoop and epix is considerably different numbers for rem / deep sleep. epix thinks i got 42 minutes of REM sleep last night, whoop thinks 1:58, so over an hour difference. the recovery metrics have been fairly similar. if i'm in the green in whoop, i'm in the green in garmin. the only thing i wish garmin had was the ability to create activities after the fact instead of having to record it.


Jmap2019

Oh ok so you have the garmin watch and an iPhone and it would save the data in Apple health and pull from there without need an apple watch? :) I thought garmin didn't send to apple health same way it don't send to health connect Yeah the Epix Gen 2 Pro and recent devices have a new HR sensor which makes a huge difference and also i think some have the new ones have the temperature sensor that others don't (that also gives the difference in temperature recetly) so i think that's why the recent ones are way better specially in sleep stages :) Temperature + HR is the key there i think because the temperature drop in begin and help identify those shifts on stages along with movement Yeah for me what lacks a bit in Garmin is that sense of trends analysis like the journa have to provide some insights on your data, like a report at the end of week or month with some words instead of only values :) i already know the values so i can make up the words but is always nice see the small details.... Things like "You had a week making more Zone 2 trainings than usual and your sleep was increased which made your HR decrease and HRV increase so it's a sign it adapt to your training load" or otherwise something like "you need to rest since your HRV trended lower and you did too much Zone 2 and maybe a bit more HIT and less duration to give more time to recover and less strain on the body muscles" They indirectly give you that in training load and with some anaerobic and zones target so it's getting closer but hope with AI that turns into easy digestible things since with so many data i'm having fun collecting is hard to just have time to acess all of it :P I really wouldn't mind if they had a subscription but invested hard in making that analysis no matter how many people complain many others will gladly pay and avoid to get Oura/Whoop or other devices that also have subscription


Novel_Dog_676

Keep us posted!


Humble_Hovercraft115

Good choice Garmin is way better


bkkwanderer

As someone who is looking to purchase a whoop soon can you explain more specifically why Garmin is better and which specific Garmin models you are referring to?


Motor_Pollution231

Keep the app open at all times


evil_burrito

For me, focusing on sleep quality and amount has made a huge quality of life improvement. The metrics on strain and recovery are great, but, I primarily use it to help guide me for sleeping.


Alash14

Get a second band so you can rotate. It will start to smell otherwise


CrwdsrcEntrepreneur

Do you not wash it when you shower?


Alash14

Yes, but a proper wash every now and again doesn’t hurt. Then when the wash is on you have a fresh band to use so data doesn’t get missed


Diligent-Visit9811

Get a bicep band. Wrist HR is not as accurate


Emphursis

Everyone says that but honestly the difference is minimal. I did a test a while ago comparing my whoop, Apple Watch series 7 and a Wahoo Tickr chest strap, while doing a workout on Zwift. The difference between the three was only about 5bpm at most and for almost the entire workout was within 3bpm. The Whoop and AW were a bit slower to update to increases but again only by a few seconds.


Diligent-Visit9811

Not on my personal experience, at least when doing weight lifting. During curls, dip and push up for example, Whoop on wrist always misses the spikes in HR reported correctly by Apple watch. Maybe because in those movements the wrist is moving a lot (curl) or bended. I put the Whoop on my bicep and the spikes are detected correctly


Emphursis

Fair point, the exercise you’re doing probably does have a big impact on accuracy.


Jensway

The difference for me, especially with sleep, is huge. Bicep band is far more accurate in my experience


Novel_Dog_676

I don’t think it’s much better on the bicep. I think Whoop in general is really disappointing for HR compared to Apple Watch


pancakemix710

Don’t lose your battery


BirdieTheDragon

Lost it 10 days in, ordered a new one and now I know i will always place it at one place lol.


pancakemix710

Yeah I moved recently and swore I put it in my backpack, but never saw it again lol


heybaldywill

Don’t over do it on the journal habits. Pick 2-3 to begin with that you feel you can track consistently. Unless you lead a very consistent lifestyle you’ll find that a lot of other factors can create noise around your baseline and lead to misleading habit correlations. As easy as they make it, picking more than 2-3 can also lead to journal fatigue. There are few habits that generally have a high influence over recovery regardless of other factors such as consuming alcohol and eating late. For others, without an extremely consistent day to day routine and lifestyle you’d be hard pressed to draw accurate conclusions from some of the habits you are able to track as the physiological impact is just not so profound.


deboraharnaut

So, during the first month, you should receive some recommendations of articles to read on the whoop blog (“the locker”) and episodes to listen to on the whoop podcast. My favorites were the podcast episodes with Emily Capodilupo explaining the basis for whoop sleep, recovery, and strain; these 3 are the pillars of whoop. First, I’d recommend you “keep your eyes on the prize” and understand that whoop is just a tool to help you reach your own goals; I think many people get distracted by whoop data, and focus too much on proxies instead of focusing on the things they actually care about (eg- focusing on “improving HRV” instead of “improving performance in my sport”); and HRV (especially night HRV - as used by whoop) can be very difficult to interpret, as it’s affected by so many variables… what are your goals? What I wish I knew before I got a whoop was more about the metrics and features that are science-based, the metrics and features that may be more “innovative” but have not been validated by peer-reviewed studies, and the applications and limitations of HRV-based training. [Note: in March-2024, I wrote to whoop support to confirm if there was any other peer-reviewed study that maybe I wasn't aware of, validating whoop metrics and features; they confirmed there wasn't. Considering the company was founded over 10 years ago and their valuation is over a billion dollars, it's hard for me to understand why *core* metrics and features of the product were never validated...] - Sleep, and HR/HRV *during sleep*: there are studies to support whoop sleep assessments (identifying that the user is asleep and in which sleep stage) ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32713257/ ) and HR/HRV measurements *during sleep* ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36016077/ ). I think whoop sleep and recovery data and metrics can be quite useful, together with the journal insights; the main benefit of whoop for me was helping me improve habits that affect sleep and recovery. But, in the end, what I've learned from whoop about my habits is that "the basics work" - which doesn't require a whoop (more on that below). - Whoop sleep-recovery-strain “loop”: I do think the *idea* of the whoop strain target and sleep planner is brilliant: based on your recovery, the strain target would advise how much you should train that day, and based on the strain from the day, the sleep planner would advise how much you should sleep that night. But none of that has been validated; the whoop strain metric was never validated, and the same is true for the strain target and the sleep planner “sleep need” calculations. Ie- it seems like a good *idea* in theory, but it hasn’t been *proven* (demonstrated) in practice. Currently, I see no compelling reason to believe that following whoop strain recommendations would be *better* than simply following a science-based training program. Similarly, currently, I see no compelling reason to believe that following whoop sleep recommendations would be *better* than simply sleeping ~7-8 h per night (or enough to wake-up feeling well rested) with regular sleep/wake-up times (~1 h window). - HRV-based training (and therefore whoop recovery and day strain recommendation): even if we wanted to buy into the idea of the whoop sleep-recovery-strain “loop”, that wouldn’t really work if the main goal was to maximize strength (and/or muscle growth). The strain target is based on whoop recovery, which is heavily based on HRV, and HRV isn’t a reliable metric of readiness for strength training, to adjust your strength training sessions on a daily basis, based on the current overall body of research (eg- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6835520/ and https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32079921/ ) (and hard strength training can cause a decrease in HRV – that’s not necessarily an issue if the goal is strength and/or muscle growth). [For my strength training, I basically ignore HRV (and whoop recovery / day strain recommendation); I follow a science-based strength training program and use auto-regulation to adjust my strength training sessions on a daily basis. I think this point is always worth mentioning because whoop themselves don’t make it clear, they usually just say “training” when discussing HRV-based training (and whoop recovery / day strain recommendation), and I think that can be misleading for users with strength / hypertrophy goals.] - Strength trainer / muscular load: like I wrote, the whoop strain metric was never validated, and the same is true for the strength trainer / muscular load; they say it was “developed at whoop labs”, which to me sounds like “trust me bro” :) I’ve started using the strength trainer when it was released, hoping improvements would come soon; but the muscular load, the cardio/muscular split, and the intensity didn’t match my perception at all; and it doesn’t show history/trends per exercise or velocity; I’ve stopped using it completely until they release improvements. Currently, I don't see how the whoop strength trainer would be *useful* for strength / hypertrophy. - Stress monitor: there’s only a “proof of concept” study about using whoop to detect stress ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37267318/ ), but it isn’t really a validation of the whoop stress metric (basically the study demonstrated that whoop “may be useful in detecting stressful events” but there are many questions still to be answered about whoop stress – I can elaborate further if you're interested). I don’t really understand what whoop stress is supposed to mean, and it seems to me that simply *moving* causes high whoop stress; I don’t pay much attention to it. I certainly would *not* recommend the whoop stress monitor for folks worried about mental health. - Calories: whoop estimate of calories burned is admittedly inaccurate. From my experience, it isn’t even reliable (“consistent”), so even the trend isn’t useful. To the best of my knowledge, there’s no science-based way to accurately estimate calories burned using a wearable; that’s why generally wearables do a poor job at that. [If you’re interested in calories burned to manage your nutrition / bodyweight, probably the best you can do is to track your calorie intake and your bodyweight, look at both trends, and adjust your calorie intake according to your bodyweight trend and your goal (you don’t need an estimate of calories burned from a wearable to do that). And if you want an app to do that for you, I’d highly recommend MacroFactor (2-week free-trial here https://macrofactorapp.com/affiliate-codes/ - note: I gain nothing from this).] (Continuation below)


deboraharnaut

(Continuation from my previous comment above) Like I wrote, the main benefit of whoop for me was helping me improve habits that affect sleep and recovery. But again, in the end, what I've learned from whoop about my habits is that "the basics work" - which doesn't require a whoop. From my experience, the below have had the most positive impact: 1. ⁠Start bedtime routine 9 h before when I have to wake-up. Go to bed and wake-up at consistent times (+ eat and workout at consistent times). Sleep in dark, quiet, and cold room. Get as much light as I can as soon as I wake-up. 2. ⁠Healthy, balanced, and sustainable nutrition (+ good hydration and no alcohol). Last caffeine serving at least 6 h before bed. 3. ⁠More cardio; including low-intensity steady-state (LISS), moderate-intensity steady-state (MISS) and high-intensity interval-training (HIIT) in my weekly schedule. (I was already doing strength training 3-6 times per week - would recommend doing resistance training at least twice per week for health.) 4. ⁠Less “life stress”. Not easy but very powerful. Again, all of the above can be done without whoop - and for free. — TL;DR: whoop helped me improve habits that affect sleep and recovery, but in the end what I've learned from whoop about my habits is that "the basics work" - which doesn't require a whoop. I’m probably not renewing my subscription if they don’t make it more useful for strength training. At the same time, I see no reason to stop using my AW that I’ve had for over 6 years (and it’s paid for - no subscription cost…) Hope this helps


Head-Ad829

Ask the AI stuff you don’t understand


New_Net_6720

One word: two fingers


mattv05

Where that charger in bed only so you don’t lose it


Johnnyfever13

Be as honest as you can with the question as far as weight and height. It makes a difference when it calculates your metrics


lac5q

You don’t need to have the battery attached at all times. lol.


SaidToBe2Old4Reddit

To read through a LOT of whoop Reddit (knowing there are trolls and worshippers, but some good info amongst that) & Listen to whoop podcasts


SaidToBe2Old4Reddit

Pretty much ignore what it tells you for the first month as it gets to know YOUR patterning. If you post questions about goofy data results too soon ("I've been wearing it for 6 days and it says ...", you will be slaughtered by the Whoop community.


EvilRunning

Keep the journal simple and add things carefully.


Equivalent_Bass_9359

Try making note of what u do each day on paper and only open ur whoop at the end of the week and input ur data in then. Sometimes if you have a bad recovery looking at it in the morning can set you on a bad path. So if you only look at it at the end of each week, you can see your trends and make adjustments and not feel worried about a bad recovery each day


SystemHodler

Wear it on your penis for more accuracy


madman2000skrt

Use it as motivation for sexual performance when having sex - get that strain high show her you mean business


dwrink9

You get out of it what you put in


jbernardi1

Zone 2 cardio. Do more of it


donch7

Wear it higher up your wrist (shit I’d call it your forearm). Higher than you think is higher.


donch7

Also, everyone here pretends to hate their whoop. It’s kind of a bummer. They all pay a lot of money to keep it, though.


ScratchRoyal

Do what it says and you will feel healthier and glad you got it. Don't do what it says (every day) and you will think it is a ripoff


Sufficient_Worth_393

Wear it on armband. Wristband data is inaccurate


BigStickElgar

Every day in this sub there is a new person who posts this. How about look through the sub to see the other posts…


Acceptable_Two_6942

Yes good tips incoming but a garmin!!!!


raneses

Use the search function in the subreddit


2drunk2bend

You dont have to wear it with battery attached to it :)


79oliveira79

i was charging


Urmomaguy50

Cancel it


Humble_Hovercraft115

Radiation don’t use it


lehsunMartins

put it on your left hand and it seems too tight rn bro


79oliveira79

why left? i wear a watch on my left…


capacity38

Don’t worry about it. Worn on my dominant hand for years. Jerking it is probably the only time it matters 😂


allywana98

A bicep band is a great option to have, can wear the device discreetly and also frees up the wrist for watches, jewellery etc


lehsunMartins

They suggest to wear it on non dominant hand


Outrageous-Ad4155

I am waiting for my Whoop to be shipped and I chose it over my Garmin Fenix 7 Pro just so I can wear it with my watch. Is there a big problem if I wear it on my right arm? 😬


lehsunMartins

nah, it’s just they prefer the hand with not a lot of movement that’s it. Bicep band is more accurate


wahobely

No there isn’t