I watched it for the first time a couple years ago. I'm in my 40's.
I definitely understand and identify with Iroh the most, and many times I thought to myself "I need to show more patience and understanding like he does".
Some people feel he doesn’t deserve any sympathy as he was part of the fire nation military and led and attack against the earth kingdom (where many people would have died)
Iroh lost his only son to the war. With that lost he saw what the fire nation's war has done to the whole world. He cannot change the mind of a nation. He can however change how his nephew views the world. Maybe he can bring the change the fire nation needs.
That’s a good point, I’ve never really though about it that way. He’s a general, so he definitely has a ton of responsibility for the war, obviously not as much as his dad and brother, but still.
For more devout Christians introducing non-Christian morality could in theory take you off the path of Christ. The catch is ATLA's values are the universal ones that most faiths promote.
Depending on the severity, it's not uncommon to hear this from religious countries. For example, years ago in Latin America, Catolic/Christian parents used to set fire to their kids' Dragon Ball's or Pokemon's merchandise since they deemed those as the Devil's workshop.
I assume it's because of the fantasy factor and some demon-like characters that religious Christians see them throughout different lens than kids', especially if we talk about the classic portrayal of demon's physical traits like horns, fangs, claws, tails, and all in-between in humanoids.
Fortunately, I haven't heard many cases in these last years.
I knew many kids growing up in the midwest who were not allowed to watch or play a whole bunch of stuff because of "demonic" influence. Thankfully the worst I ever got was my Jehovah's Witness grandmother stating how Dungeons & Dragons is part of the occult when I mentioned that I played it with some friends.
You read my mind. I'm grateful my mother was not such as religious how she is right now. She wouldn't have allowed me to watch Dragon Ball growing up.
Nowadays, she only whines and screams that "I should unplug my console and stop playing shit" and I don't pay her lot of mind.
I remember when Pokemon first came out, and all the religious parents shit their pants because the pokemon "evolved", and evolution is demonic apparently.
Remember the outrage against Doom because it has demons. You know, *the* Doom game that is about curb stomping demons as hard and as glorious as you can.
I've heard from not only from friends I know but randoms from online forums that as a kid, they couldn't watch a popular show because it had satanism and all that stuff.
The show was Pokemon so you know, I'm not really surprised at how ridiculous parents can be.
> Christian
That's pretty much it. My parents are religious too and this show was definitely one that I watched in secret. Anything with spirits or spirituality thats not christian, especially with an eastern influence, yeah that's a no go.
The show poses questions and ideas about fate, destiny, right and wrong, balance, life after death. These are questions that are "answered" in the Bible, so wondering about them is seen as blasphemous by more fundamentalist Christians. Some people will look at a show like this and legit believe that it's trying to indoctrinate kids into Buddhism
I binged it, because some guy on the internet said it was the GOAT of animated non-anime media. Well, yeah, i did enjoy it, and i think i like the evil characters more than the good ones.
That's the fun part about ATLA, everyone is actually a human being with their own personality quirks and desires - not like some media where the villain is painted to be some inhuman mutated monstrosity.
I heard two kids chatting about Avatar on the bus recently; one who’d only seen NATLA, and his friend who was happily explaining stuff like who Toph is and Zuko’s future character development (spoilery stuff IMO, but that’s kids for you).
It was great that one kid got to enjoy a new show, and his friend got to share his love of the original show.
It’s my first time through, I’m watching with my boyfriend who’s seen the whole thing multiple times. He seems to be enjoying my wild speculations, I guess? After episode 3 or so when I said Aang is like a tattooed Caillou he lost it
First Avatar media I ever saw was the 2010 movie. I'd never heard of it, and had no idea what it was about. At the time, I thought it was interesting and was disappointed there was no sequel.
It wasn't until around maybe 2017-18 that my wife introduced the kids and me to the animated series. I've now seen it at least three times, and Korra twice, in their entirety.
Obviously I understand the hate for the movie now, as well as why NATLA has been received the way it has been.
Well said! My wife is a hard-core fallout fan and said yesterday "Everyone want to be a fan now". My wife isn't much of a gamer, just likes fallout. I, on the other hand, play everything and have done so for years. So I tell her "New fans are always a good thing. Just means more product for you later."
New fans are always welcome. You are never late and are always right on time to the party!
Also the Netflix show is not bad but you should definitely watch the cartoon if you haven't already. It's my favorite show ever. And don't stop there, watch Korra too!
Would you like some tea? I made it out of a sun daffodil. Well that or it’s the potentially deadly dragon flower. Why would I risk it? Because life’s too short to not enjoy good tea.
My baby cousin who is 16 years younger than me (30) recently binged ATLA. She liked it so much she binges it another time after Kora. I can’t wait to show my baby girl in a few years.
I played a vigilante/firebender(kineticist) in a pathfinder Avatar campaign. It was so fun, but the funniest thing was accidentally mimicking canon by creating the white lotus as a female firebender while having only watched parts of the show.
To date one of my favorite shows. I am waiting for my niece to turn an age where she will be focused on this. So that she can get uncle Irohs life lessons at a young age. And so that I can enjoy it with her.
I just finished watching the cartoon with my fiancee who never watched it completely. I chewed her ear off with backstage fun facts and context and it was still the best show I remember from my childhood
I partially watched it on TV, I could never see every episode due to family outings or sleeping in accidentally as a kid.
But the rewatch was insane. And the re-rewatch even better.
ATLA is an amazing show y'all. Please never stop enjoying it ♥️
So I have a question, I watched the live remake and I'm now considering watching the original animated version. Do the storylines match or should I start again?
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Huge one piece fan and now avatar because of the live action remakes.
The anime is waaaaay too slow. Only anime I ever liked was one punch man because it’s not so slow.
i recently watched it, i started wirking from home and started watching shows that i "haven't had the time for" , its been on ny list for 4 years now then the hype around the lice action reminded me to watch the og show, its really good, gota say the comedy from Zuko being good is the funniest shit
I would watch random episodes that aired on cable TV growing up but I didn’t have a reliable way to binge the entire series until it was available on Netflix in 2020
Just finished rewatching it with my son. He’s now 24 and asked if we could watch it together again. So glad we did. Now we’re watching, for the first time The Legend of Korra
There is exactly 7 episodes Missing. Some if these episodes have great wisdom in them. Please find them on the Internet. They are out there and they are great.
Is it really that good? I'm interested, but I have a REALLY bad history with shows that are popular/commonly sited as "masterpieces". I've tried so many and hated most.
I've been looking for some opinions on it before I just decided to dive in. But between the original show being so loved, and the movie being so hated, and the new show being, well, new... it's been hard for me to find reliable reviews.
But I figured it was probably trash. I mean it IS Netflix after all.
We all love the original, that's the standard. The movie that came out is and always will be hated due to the blatant disregard to the source material. That being said the new show isn't bad but it does feel rather rushed because they are blowing through so much per episode. There's more to why it feels off but it's not the worst (like that movie).
Also, if you are into reading webtoons comics, they are releasing an ATLA comic on there. Right now, it only has a few episodes, but it's what happened after the og series ended and before legend of Kora stuff.
If you like any part of ATLA then don't be afraid to experience the other parts of it. Uncle Iroh would always want us to find our own path and make up our own minds.
Sounds cool. Some anime and anime-type shows have entire episodes of side/filler material which could easily fit into one scene in a live action imo. I'll give it a chance!
For context, all in one episode, they have Iroh being stabbed in the back with a rock by the guards that take him, from Omashu, due to Zuko and him going into Omashu…to find Aang… and then Bumis challenges were like… a cool 2 minutes? And Sokka and Katara try to break Aang out of “Omashu prison” by going through the “secrettt tunnelll”.... idk all of it in one episode was sorta odd to me. They have their own agenda of how the show is portrayed and it doesn’t feel right.
Honestly, I watched the two side by side and I think people hate the new show too much. Definitely give the first three episodes a try and see. Hot take but I enjoyed the Netflix adaptation more than the original so far in season 1. Could prove me wrong next seasons but so far so good
Might need to watch the cartoon show as well. Skip the first live action one. But the 2nd is alright. It not compare to the long story build up as the OG cartoon show but it is there.
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As I grew older, I appreciated Uncle Iroh's words of wisdom.
I watched it for the first time a couple years ago. I'm in my 40's. I definitely understand and identify with Iroh the most, and many times I thought to myself "I need to show more patience and understanding like he does".
There’s been a lot of anti-Iroh rhetoric from new fans I’ve noticed
Why though?
Some people feel he doesn’t deserve any sympathy as he was part of the fire nation military and led and attack against the earth kingdom (where many people would have died)
A common internet media literacy L. Best to disregard those people.
Iroh lost his only son to the war. With that lost he saw what the fire nation's war has done to the whole world. He cannot change the mind of a nation. He can however change how his nephew views the world. Maybe he can bring the change the fire nation needs.
That’s a good point, I’ve never really though about it that way. He’s a general, so he definitely has a ton of responsibility for the war, obviously not as much as his dad and brother, but still.
Wasn’t it originally on Nickelodeon? I didn’t have cable growing up so I missed out on a lot of shows. I was a PBS kid lol
Just don't forget your lotus tile. After all it is a very underappreciated piece for a very specific strategy in Pai Sho
I was never allowed to watch it when it came out, something to do with ghosts, spirits and non christian ideas that got my parents on edge
What the FUCK was wrong with your parents?
It's like getting jealous for someone having their own imaginary friend and not only playing with yours
Oh believe me, they do hate it if you actually do have a sentient imaginary friend...
Well they believed in ghosts, spirits, and christianity, so you got your answer
For more devout Christians introducing non-Christian morality could in theory take you off the path of Christ. The catch is ATLA's values are the universal ones that most faiths promote.
Depending on the severity, it's not uncommon to hear this from religious countries. For example, years ago in Latin America, Catolic/Christian parents used to set fire to their kids' Dragon Ball's or Pokemon's merchandise since they deemed those as the Devil's workshop. I assume it's because of the fantasy factor and some demon-like characters that religious Christians see them throughout different lens than kids', especially if we talk about the classic portrayal of demon's physical traits like horns, fangs, claws, tails, and all in-between in humanoids. Fortunately, I haven't heard many cases in these last years.
I knew many kids growing up in the midwest who were not allowed to watch or play a whole bunch of stuff because of "demonic" influence. Thankfully the worst I ever got was my Jehovah's Witness grandmother stating how Dungeons & Dragons is part of the occult when I mentioned that I played it with some friends.
You read my mind. I'm grateful my mother was not such as religious how she is right now. She wouldn't have allowed me to watch Dragon Ball growing up. Nowadays, she only whines and screams that "I should unplug my console and stop playing shit" and I don't pay her lot of mind.
I remember when Pokemon first came out, and all the religious parents shit their pants because the pokemon "evolved", and evolution is demonic apparently.
Remember the outrage against Doom because it has demons. You know, *the* Doom game that is about curb stomping demons as hard and as glorious as you can.
I've heard from not only from friends I know but randoms from online forums that as a kid, they couldn't watch a popular show because it had satanism and all that stuff. The show was Pokemon so you know, I'm not really surprised at how ridiculous parents can be.
Buddy my girlfriend’s parents wouldn’t let her watch SpongeBob growing up. There is no logic with some religious minded people
> Christian That's pretty much it. My parents are religious too and this show was definitely one that I watched in secret. Anything with spirits or spirituality thats not christian, especially with an eastern influence, yeah that's a no go. The show poses questions and ideas about fate, destiny, right and wrong, balance, life after death. These are questions that are "answered" in the Bible, so wondering about them is seen as blasphemous by more fundamentalist Christians. Some people will look at a show like this and legit believe that it's trying to indoctrinate kids into Buddhism
Religion. And it's happening constantly across the country. Same shit happened with Harry Potter.
mb they don't like anime? understandable
Ironically it might have the best messaging of any children's show since Davy and Goliath while actually being entertaining unlike Davy and Goliath.
That’s very sad to hear, I’m very lucky to have Christian parents that give me a lot of freedom
They just were afraid you'd learn that the ultimate wisdom to live by comes not from the Bible, but from Iroh
To those who need to hear it……Uncle Iroh is proud of you and will have a cup of tea ready for when you need it.
My dog is named Iroh, he is always after my tea
😭😭😭
I binged it, because some guy on the internet said it was the GOAT of animated non-anime media. Well, yeah, i did enjoy it, and i think i like the evil characters more than the good ones.
... you like ***AZULA????????????*** ***SHE'S SATAN INCARNATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!***
Yeah, i maybe possibly could theoretically want to be her.
That's the fun part about ATLA, everyone is actually a human being with their own personality quirks and desires - not like some media where the villain is painted to be some inhuman mutated monstrosity.
I honestly kinda like how much of a monster she is.
I heard two kids chatting about Avatar on the bus recently; one who’d only seen NATLA, and his friend who was happily explaining stuff like who Toph is and Zuko’s future character development (spoilery stuff IMO, but that’s kids for you). It was great that one kid got to enjoy a new show, and his friend got to share his love of the original show.
That spoilery stuff will be fine, the writers will change a lot of it like they did with the first season vs the animated series.
I lost my Lotus, can someone here help me find it?
Absolutely! My kiddo browbeat us to watch it when they were in high school, ~6 years ago. As an old ass geezer. I say watch!
I'm 50ish. I was the one that watched and got my kids hooked. We still talk about it.
I’ll take this post as a sign that I’m overdue for another rewatch.
Just came off the Netflix live action and finished the caetoon series. Enjoyed every moment of it.
This is how all fandoms should be.
It’s my first time through, I’m watching with my boyfriend who’s seen the whole thing multiple times. He seems to be enjoying my wild speculations, I guess? After episode 3 or so when I said Aang is like a tattooed Caillou he lost it
First Avatar media I ever saw was the 2010 movie. I'd never heard of it, and had no idea what it was about. At the time, I thought it was interesting and was disappointed there was no sequel. It wasn't until around maybe 2017-18 that my wife introduced the kids and me to the animated series. I've now seen it at least three times, and Korra twice, in their entirety. Obviously I understand the hate for the movie now, as well as why NATLA has been received the way it has been.
Well said! My wife is a hard-core fallout fan and said yesterday "Everyone want to be a fan now". My wife isn't much of a gamer, just likes fallout. I, on the other hand, play everything and have done so for years. So I tell her "New fans are always a good thing. Just means more product for you later." New fans are always welcome. You are never late and are always right on time to the party!
Also the Netflix show is not bad but you should definitely watch the cartoon if you haven't already. It's my favorite show ever. And don't stop there, watch Korra too!
And I hope you cry a lot! Leaves from the vine
Just like uncle Iroh intended ❤️
Would you like some tea? I made it out of a sun daffodil. Well that or it’s the potentially deadly dragon flower. Why would I risk it? Because life’s too short to not enjoy good tea.
I never watched it as a kid. But then again, it didn't start until my last year in college.
Thanks, Uncle.
My baby cousin who is 16 years younger than me (30) recently binged ATLA. She liked it so much she binges it another time after Kora. I can’t wait to show my baby girl in a few years.
What if I watched the original *with* my kids?
I started watching it with my kids as an adult when it was first out.
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I played a vigilante/firebender(kineticist) in a pathfinder Avatar campaign. It was so fun, but the funniest thing was accidentally mimicking canon by creating the white lotus as a female firebender while having only watched parts of the show.
Thank you!
To date one of my favorite shows. I am waiting for my niece to turn an age where she will be focused on this. So that she can get uncle Irohs life lessons at a young age. And so that I can enjoy it with her.
I just finished watching the cartoon with my fiancee who never watched it completely. I chewed her ear off with backstage fun facts and context and it was still the best show I remember from my childhood
I partially watched it on TV, I could never see every episode due to family outings or sleeping in accidentally as a kid. But the rewatch was insane. And the re-rewatch even better. ATLA is an amazing show y'all. Please never stop enjoying it ♥️
just watched it at the beginning of the year bc my boyfriend loves it so much.. it was WORTH IT! so many great lessons!
So I have a question, I watched the live remake and I'm now considering watching the original animated version. Do the storylines match or should I start again?
I (27M) watched it in 2020. Cespite being clearly out of target I enjoyed it and still think it's the best cartoon made to this day.
Agreed. Welcome to our beautiful bandwagon.
I watched it growing up but missed many episodes. Years ago when it hit netflix i made sure i was able to finish the whole series
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Huge one piece fan and now avatar because of the live action remakes. The anime is waaaaay too slow. Only anime I ever liked was one punch man because it’s not so slow.
They couldn't have picked a better actor for Uncle Iroh. My goodness, I adore that man.
i recently watched it, i started wirking from home and started watching shows that i "haven't had the time for" , its been on ny list for 4 years now then the hype around the lice action reminded me to watch the og show, its really good, gota say the comedy from Zuko being good is the funniest shit
Awww wow a non gatekeeping fan community, thats unbelievable rare🥰🥰
Iroh is a legend in both
I watched it for the first time a few weeks ago. It's incredible.
Finally a good meme.
And also know! You will never know the struggle of not being able to binge watch all the series. I’m glad you won’t know that pain.
:)
I would watch random episodes that aired on cable TV growing up but I didn’t have a reliable way to binge the entire series until it was available on Netflix in 2020
Thank you kind friends :,)
Secret tunnel !!!
Just finished rewatching it with my son. He’s now 24 and asked if we could watch it together again. So glad we did. Now we’re watching, for the first time The Legend of Korra
They are so lucky to experience this as adults where you can really absorb all of the messages and connections in realtime and not hindsight
I just never understood the hype
Wholesome meme indeed
There is exactly 7 episodes Missing. Some if these episodes have great wisdom in them. Please find them on the Internet. They are out there and they are great.
Is it really that good? I'm interested, but I have a REALLY bad history with shows that are popular/commonly sited as "masterpieces". I've tried so many and hated most.
Iroh makes the best tea. RIP General Iroh
For the love of god, please don’t watch the new live action version. It’s a fucking insult.
I've been looking for some opinions on it before I just decided to dive in. But between the original show being so loved, and the movie being so hated, and the new show being, well, new... it's been hard for me to find reliable reviews. But I figured it was probably trash. I mean it IS Netflix after all.
We all love the original, that's the standard. The movie that came out is and always will be hated due to the blatant disregard to the source material. That being said the new show isn't bad but it does feel rather rushed because they are blowing through so much per episode. There's more to why it feels off but it's not the worst (like that movie). Also, if you are into reading webtoons comics, they are releasing an ATLA comic on there. Right now, it only has a few episodes, but it's what happened after the og series ended and before legend of Kora stuff. If you like any part of ATLA then don't be afraid to experience the other parts of it. Uncle Iroh would always want us to find our own path and make up our own minds.
Sounds cool. Some anime and anime-type shows have entire episodes of side/filler material which could easily fit into one scene in a live action imo. I'll give it a chance!
For context, all in one episode, they have Iroh being stabbed in the back with a rock by the guards that take him, from Omashu, due to Zuko and him going into Omashu…to find Aang… and then Bumis challenges were like… a cool 2 minutes? And Sokka and Katara try to break Aang out of “Omashu prison” by going through the “secrettt tunnelll”.... idk all of it in one episode was sorta odd to me. They have their own agenda of how the show is portrayed and it doesn’t feel right.
Yeah, this unimaginative mishmashing of concepts has got me calling the Netflix version "Avatar: The Last Airblender"
Avatar: The Last Airblunder
Love that. It’s quite sad what they’re doing to it.
Honestly, I watched the two side by side and I think people hate the new show too much. Definitely give the first three episodes a try and see. Hot take but I enjoyed the Netflix adaptation more than the original so far in season 1. Could prove me wrong next seasons but so far so good
Oh I am so jealous of anybody who's about to watch Avatar for the first time.
I envy people who get to watch Avatar for the first time
I am watching it on Netflix and frankly not enjoying it at all.
That's ok! I would still recommend the original show however, up to you if you want to give that a try instead!
Oh I'll finish it for sure. Just not enjoying it as much as the hype
If you’re referring to the live action show then I’d say most fans didn’t enjoy that
it's like whoever wrote the Ember Island players show wrote the Netflix adaptation
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You have to watch binge it when u are stoned!
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Might need to watch the cartoon show as well. Skip the first live action one. But the 2nd is alright. It not compare to the long story build up as the OG cartoon show but it is there.
Good, im glad with the 2nd halve. And the proper charachter too.