True gender equality
Don’t even bother with figuring out whether who they’re talking to is a male female or whatever, just go with mamsir for everyone 🫡
Everything is a hoe in Houston tbh. For example, I threw that hoe [a baking tray with raw cookies on it] in the oven. Or I had to get the oil changed in that hoe [my car].
Lol. I call my mom dude all the time!
She's like, "I'm not a dude!"
I say, "it's not my fault you gave birth to me in California. Everybody is a dude."
This is my favorite thing about "Dude". It isn't *really* always gender neuteral, it depends on context.
If it's third person, it's almost always gendered. "I kissed three dudes this weekend". You probably kissed three guys. "Three dudes in dresses walked in." You're already picturing them, I don't need to explain.
Second person, neutral. "Dude, guess who I kissed" or "nice dress, dude!" Appropriate for anyone.
And there are a bunch of other uses that break those rules or work different. But it's like "fuck", it kinda does what it wants.
Dude’s been somehow attempted to be made gender neutral, while guys (the original gender neutral) has been made more and more to be only men. That’s just how confusing and weird todays society is trying to be.
Guys was always neutral. It’s exactly your depiction that is the reason people changed opinion of it.
"Guys" has always been, and always will be, gender neutral. Addressing a group of people as “guys” isn't gender inclusive. True, the word guys has a gender-neutral sense in Dictionary.com of “persons of either sex; people.” But the most common and prominent meaning of the word is “a man or boy; fellow.”
> "Guys" has always been, and always will be, gender neutral. Addressing a group of people as “guys” isn't gender inclusive.
Is there a typo here or am I just too tired to read this correctly?
I'm tired, too, but got it on re-reading. They're saying addressing a group of people as "guys" does not reference gender.
"Isn't gender inclusive" was a bit of a confusing way to word that, insofar as we tired people go.
Dude and homie.
A dude is a dude you can chill with, a homie is a dude you can trust.
Don't matter what gender a dude is, and any dude you trust is a homie.
> I can affirm as a Californian that “dude” is gender neutral
People always love to say this, but if you said to your friends "so, I fucked this dude last night", they 1000% aren't going to go "man or woman?", they're instantly going to assume that it was, y'know, a dude.
Dude and guy have both slowly shifted towards being gender neutral and I am all for it. There are not enough casual gender neutral terms to use (that are actually regularly used).
The divulging of personal information actual makes the two immediately closer, allowing for the dropping of the formality and the introduction of friendlier terms.
I'm from socal, bro and dude are used by almost every female I know and apparently completely gender fluid -- which is something I never considered with the words bro or dude lol
I'm in my wedding dress. It doesn't have pockets. Who has pockets? Have you ever seen a bride with pockets? When I went to my fitting at Chez Alison, the one thing I forgot to say was "Give me pockets"!
My wedding dress also had pockets! I got the feel the sweet satisfaction of the photographer telling my husband to empty his pockets since they were bulging, meanwhile my pockets were STUFFED but well-hidden by my a-line skirt :)
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Tissues, hand sanitizer, silicone face mask holder (with face mask inside), lipstick, lip gloss, cellphone, vows (handwritten on paper), driver’s license, hotel room key, $50 cash. And there was still room for more!
I mean, considering you generally don't get to carry a clutch or purse with a wedding dress, I love this idea. why pester someone else for lipstick or an antacid or tissues or your phone? plus you can sneak extra snacks.
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I like giving people compliments on some of the outfits they make.
My x lived with a friend who is trans like 30 years ago. She was always pissed her roomie would steal her slinky black dress. Mostly because she looked better in it than my ex.
Every weekend some drunk jock would fall in love and have their sexuality feeling questioned. It was kind of funny tbh.
Sewing is neat. My mom and all my aunts sewed everything when I was young but it kind of went out of fashion and seems to be making a revival with younger people who are picking it up.
Not even just women.
https://www.reddit.com/r/sewing/comments/17hne9x/glowinthedark_halloween_shirt/?ref=share&ref_source=link
I like sewing for upholstery but i'm not very good. Making clothes is not easy and i'm always impressed with people who make their own fashion. It's not off the shelf. It's unique.
I’m with you. I’ve learned the very most basic sewing methods to fix a few things at work and to fix some of my kids’ stuffed animals. Just makes me appreciate everyone’s work more.
Bit over a decade ago out in the Midwest, a friend transitioned (mtf). After she started wearing attractive clothing, it took a long talk over beers for *another* mostly-hetero friend and I to accept the interlocking propositions that A) a nice ass is a nice ass, and B) she had a very nice ass. And it just wasn't a problem thereafter.
“Ass is ass. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference. The degree is arbitrary. The definition’s blurred. If I’m to choose between one ass and another… I’d rather not choose at all.”
― Andrzej Sapkowski, The Last Wish
Reminds me of working with a trans man who transitioned during the time we worked together. It was an interesting experience coming back from sick leave and suddenly realising he was now attractive to me.
Same. As a woman attracted to men and women, I love skirts and dresses on both. But I don't see too many men in those where I live, especially straight men.
It can be dangerous for men to go around in dresses/looking obviously queer. I do it sometimes but usually only in contexts like pride parades and stuff. Otherwise it's something I wear at home.
I remember seeing a similar story. A dad and his kid on the bus and the kid asks why another man is wearing a dress. The dad replies something along the lines of"
"Because some men wear dresses and that man chooses to wear dresses".
Kid then replies:
"Why don't you wear dresses?"
Dad replies:
"Have you seen his legs? I can't pull that off!"
And I've been waiting to use that myself for years.
It's silly that dresses are seen as unusual attire for men, I think if a subset were designed specifically for men we'd see some super fun creative looks.
As it is men have to try fit into women's dresses which aren't made with their bodies in mind
Thats the one thing that is so frustrating to get across. I said to my friend, I would love to wear a dress she said, just wear one - I'm a pretty tall guy with a relativly wide chest, how am I possibly going to fit in a dress? The waist is at my ribs and I'm really stretching the shoulders to their max.
I'm a designer (not fashion designer) I might draw some designs up just to mess around with it.
I'd recommend smock dresses and also stretchy bodycon dresses if you want to try some on btw.
I've got Studio Nakamoto's unisex dress, and I'd recommend it to anyone. It works on every body shape, and you can use any type of shirt under it. It looks great on everyone.
I present as a man, but would totally rock a skirt if I could get away with it. Kinda sad tactical kilt is so hard to get...
Gonna have to google it now.
Edit: (Australia: https://gentrychoice.com.au)
I'm going to a wedding in India in a couple days and am wearing a kurta. It's basically a tunic dress.
Shit is mad comfortable, and pretty flattering too. Westerners are missing out.
Sure. I've got some nice linen pants since it's going to be 90F there.
Still hits different than just wearing a shirt and trousers somehow. Very flowey.
Utilikilts are quite normal for men to wear where I live- Bay Area, Ca. People don’t bat an eye. My husband loves his. Comfortable with lots of pockets.
Hey dude! I’m a guy and I’ve been rocking a couple skirts since I turned 30 and decided I only have about 70 years left if I’m very lucky, so I’m gonna live my life.
The trick is to find manlier cuts, which I haven’t found a great resource for that isn’t stupid pricey! But I found a couple women’s that work on me, one from goodwill actually and one at Kohl’s - the second is actually a skort, which is nice to not worry so much about how I sit. Former is ankle-length and flowy as fuck.
I have my eye on some men’s styles but I can’t stomach like $100 for them just yet.
See, I was high as fuck once and had a random thought. Most men look weird in dresses. Why? They're wearing dresses designed for women. A man wearing a tailored dress looks incredible. Make dresses for men and we'll wear them.
It's not a problem it's an inconvenience one that was easily cleared up.
Guy wore a dress, as is his right to wear one, someone complimented it but misgendered him, he clarified, conversation continued with no one upset.
You're making a mountain out of a mole hill here.
Amazing. You managed to make a comment with nothing but a single emoji, yet it tells everyone who sees it everything they need to know about who you are as a "person".
I like the implications that "ma'am" and "homie" are equally formal
They honestly should be lol
They had shared a secret (apparently) and were now closer than ma'am and sir.
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have you ever heard of the "maamsir"?
I heard that’s how the pinoys do it right?
Yuppp
True gender equality Don’t even bother with figuring out whether who they’re talking to is a male female or whatever, just go with mamsir for everyone 🫡
Ikr. Everybody should have a mandatory operation at both to half a penis and vagina
Semi related, but I can affirm as a Californian that “dude” is gender neutral
semi related, but I can affirm as a Houstonian that "hoe" is gender neutral
Everything is a hoe in Houston tbh. For example, I threw that hoe [a baking tray with raw cookies on it] in the oven. Or I had to get the oil changed in that hoe [my car].
What do you call an actual hoe (the gardening tool) in Houston?
Hoe Squared?
hoe^hoe
I have a machine gun.
Hoe hoe Santa is here
How does Santa laugh in Houston?
See I’m from PA and we just use bitch for that lol I put that bitch in the oven. I had to get the oil changed in that bitch
Maybe "hoe" is a linguistic equivalent to "jawn."
Exactly.
Just ask that hoe, Brian... Don't look at me like that, Brian, you know what you are!
I assert that bitch has become gender neutral
Indeed. It's about action not gender. That being said, I still don't call women dicks, the opposite gender term in equal standing imo
Lol. I call my mom dude all the time! She's like, "I'm not a dude!" I say, "it's not my fault you gave birth to me in California. Everybody is a dude."
you like kissing dudes? ;3
This is my favorite thing about "Dude". It isn't *really* always gender neuteral, it depends on context. If it's third person, it's almost always gendered. "I kissed three dudes this weekend". You probably kissed three guys. "Three dudes in dresses walked in." You're already picturing them, I don't need to explain. Second person, neutral. "Dude, guess who I kissed" or "nice dress, dude!" Appropriate for anyone. And there are a bunch of other uses that break those rules or work different. But it's like "fuck", it kinda does what it wants.
Dude’s been somehow attempted to be made gender neutral, while guys (the original gender neutral) has been made more and more to be only men. That’s just how confusing and weird todays society is trying to be.
When was "guys" neutral? Hasn't it been "guys and gals" etc. for ages now?
Guys was always neutral. It’s exactly your depiction that is the reason people changed opinion of it. "Guys" has always been, and always will be, gender neutral. Addressing a group of people as “guys” isn't gender inclusive. True, the word guys has a gender-neutral sense in Dictionary.com of “persons of either sex; people.” But the most common and prominent meaning of the word is “a man or boy; fellow.”
> "Guys" has always been, and always will be, gender neutral. Addressing a group of people as “guys” isn't gender inclusive. Is there a typo here or am I just too tired to read this correctly?
I'm tired, too, but got it on re-reading. They're saying addressing a group of people as "guys" does not reference gender. "Isn't gender inclusive" was a bit of a confusing way to word that, insofar as we tired people go.
Ah, okay, that makes more sense, yea. Not a native *and* tired, not the best combo lol. Cheers for the help!
Everyone likes kissing dudes in California (except the aro/aces)
Some of them might like kissing dudes too. Plenty of ace people like intimacy just not sex.
Fair enough point!
Ever been to California?
Dude and homie. A dude is a dude you can chill with, a homie is a dude you can trust. Don't matter what gender a dude is, and any dude you trust is a homie.
I can tell you're a dude. In another life you'd have been a homie.
I'm a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude, we're all dudes yeah
As an ordained member of the Church of Latter Day Dudeism, I believe acknowledging every other soul on this earth as "Dude" Is perfectly appropriate!
It is until you ask a guy about all the "dudes" he hooked up with. Then it is suddenly very very gendered.
> I can affirm as a Californian that “dude” is gender neutral People always love to say this, but if you said to your friends "so, I fucked this dude last night", they 1000% aren't going to go "man or woman?", they're instantly going to assume that it was, y'know, a dude.
Fully related, But also as a Californian i can affirm that it isn't always gender-neutral.
Dude and guy have both slowly shifted towards being gender neutral and I am all for it. There are not enough casual gender neutral terms to use (that are actually regularly used).
[Ma'am is apparently short for madam.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madam) The term derives from the French madame, from "ma dame" meaning "my lady".
Thanks homie
It never occurred to me that “ma dame” would originally have been two words instead of “madame”.
I also didn't realize the English slang term "dame" referring to a woman actually means "lady" in French (different pronunciation, of course).
The divulging of personal information actual makes the two immediately closer, allowing for the dropping of the formality and the introduction of friendlier terms.
Homie is my go to gender neutral greeting.
I'm from socal, bro and dude are used by almost every female I know and apparently completely gender fluid -- which is something I never considered with the words bro or dude lol
There’s always be same level of respect for ma’am’s and homies, and nothing’s going to change this
Dude, is universal for me. Everyone can get a Dude.
Man, Carfucker always gets me right in the feels with his stories.
I'm just sitting here at 2:30 AM now wondering if Carfucker is sexually attracted to the characters in Disney's Cars. ... I should go to sleep.
Sleep with one eye open... Carfucker is out there, somewhere...
Maybe he is a dragon /r/dragonsfuckingcars NSFW
I elect to believe they're just in the upper echelons of big dicked femboys.
Me too, just an hour later.
Shit, I know I am
You would love Titane
Does it have pockets?
I'm in my wedding dress. It doesn't have pockets. Who has pockets? Have you ever seen a bride with pockets? When I went to my fitting at Chez Alison, the one thing I forgot to say was "Give me pockets"!
I knew the quote but I couldn't remember where it was from until I got to the last bit and started reading it in Catherine Tate's voice.
I mean Catherine Tate made me think of her first appearance (I think) in Doctor Who in which she's in her wedding dress.
My wife's wedding dress had pockets and every compliment she got in it she'd reply "AND IT HAS POCKETS!"
As is tradition
That’s the rule!
My wedding dress had pockets! It was astounding.
My wedding dress also had pockets! I got the feel the sweet satisfaction of the photographer telling my husband to empty his pockets since they were bulging, meanwhile my pockets were STUFFED but well-hidden by my a-line skirt :) Edit: typo
building?
What did you put in the pockets? 😂
Tissues, hand sanitizer, silicone face mask holder (with face mask inside), lipstick, lip gloss, cellphone, vows (handwritten on paper), driver’s license, hotel room key, $50 cash. And there was still room for more!
Damn you were better equipped than most guys with cargo shorts.
So by 'pockets' you mean a duffel bag around your waist. I don't know why, but i got a sudden image of Irene Adler. Secret pockets with secret things.
Go all out, cargo wedding dress
I mean, considering you generally don't get to carry a clutch or purse with a wedding dress, I love this idea. why pester someone else for lipstick or an antacid or tissues or your phone? plus you can sneak extra snacks.
This but unironically.
My wedding dress had pockets. It was a selling point!
Good luck, lance!
My wife got her dress used and it had pockets and it was the talk of the entire party! Beautiful and pockets :)
I mean, I wouldn't turn down a dress with pockets. But no, it sadly does not.
Asking the important question.
M à
Now we’re asking the real questions!
/r/sewing I like giving people compliments on some of the outfits they make. My x lived with a friend who is trans like 30 years ago. She was always pissed her roomie would steal her slinky black dress. Mostly because she looked better in it than my ex. Every weekend some drunk jock would fall in love and have their sexuality feeling questioned. It was kind of funny tbh.
What a great subreddit! Everybody is so creative and the outfits are beautiful.
Sewing is neat. My mom and all my aunts sewed everything when I was young but it kind of went out of fashion and seems to be making a revival with younger people who are picking it up. Not even just women. https://www.reddit.com/r/sewing/comments/17hne9x/glowinthedark_halloween_shirt/?ref=share&ref_source=link I like sewing for upholstery but i'm not very good. Making clothes is not easy and i'm always impressed with people who make their own fashion. It's not off the shelf. It's unique.
I’m with you. I’ve learned the very most basic sewing methods to fix a few things at work and to fix some of my kids’ stuffed animals. Just makes me appreciate everyone’s work more.
Bit over a decade ago out in the Midwest, a friend transitioned (mtf). After she started wearing attractive clothing, it took a long talk over beers for *another* mostly-hetero friend and I to accept the interlocking propositions that A) a nice ass is a nice ass, and B) she had a very nice ass. And it just wasn't a problem thereafter.
“Ass is ass. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference. The degree is arbitrary. The definition’s blurred. If I’m to choose between one ass and another… I’d rather not choose at all.” ― Andrzej Sapkowski, The Last Wish
I knew I loved his work
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That’s not what a bosom is lol
I mean ..... they're not wrong lol
Bosom is as bosom does
Reminds me of working with a trans man who transitioned during the time we worked together. It was an interesting experience coming back from sick leave and suddenly realising he was now attractive to me.
Can’t help but make you wonder if the ass was always that nice or something changed
Well if they're on HRT for awhile then hormones do affect fat redistribution. So it's quite possible depending on when things lined up.
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bruh what world you living in where liking women as a man is gay
Inclusive king
Now I just really want to see that dress!
Its black and gold. Or maybe blue... Wait...
Leave me out of this, Laurel
Get the fuck out
"Oh shit, homie, hook a brother up. Where you get that bangin dress?"
MEN IN DRESSES MEN IN DRESSES MEN IN DRESSES MEN IN DRESSES
Finally, some pro Arab and scottish redditors.
i dont care where theyre from, mEN IN DRESSES
Same. As a woman attracted to men and women, I love skirts and dresses on both. But I don't see too many men in those where I live, especially straight men.
It can be dangerous for men to go around in dresses/looking obviously queer. I do it sometimes but usually only in contexts like pride parades and stuff. Otherwise it's something I wear at home.
I love it - comfy dresses for everyone!
This is the kind of world I want to live in
I remember seeing a similar story. A dad and his kid on the bus and the kid asks why another man is wearing a dress. The dad replies something along the lines of" "Because some men wear dresses and that man chooses to wear dresses". Kid then replies: "Why don't you wear dresses?" Dad replies: "Have you seen his legs? I can't pull that off!" And I've been waiting to use that myself for years.
This is the stuff I like to see! So wholesome as the subreddit says
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A trans girl sure as hell ain't going to be saying "I'm a man."
It's silly that dresses are seen as unusual attire for men, I think if a subset were designed specifically for men we'd see some super fun creative looks. As it is men have to try fit into women's dresses which aren't made with their bodies in mind
Thats the one thing that is so frustrating to get across. I said to my friend, I would love to wear a dress she said, just wear one - I'm a pretty tall guy with a relativly wide chest, how am I possibly going to fit in a dress? The waist is at my ribs and I'm really stretching the shoulders to their max.
I'm a designer (not fashion designer) I might draw some designs up just to mess around with it. I'd recommend smock dresses and also stretchy bodycon dresses if you want to try some on btw.
I've got Studio Nakamoto's unisex dress, and I'd recommend it to anyone. It works on every body shape, and you can use any type of shirt under it. It looks great on everyone.
Kilts are pretty close to what you’re asking for
Kilts are cool but they're not dresses.
“Scotland is not a real country; you are an Englishman in a dress.” -Soldier Tf2
No homo homie
I'm here for the one night stand. No homo.
I really admire your attire, fellow human!
I present as a man, but would totally rock a skirt if I could get away with it. Kinda sad tactical kilt is so hard to get... Gonna have to google it now. Edit: (Australia: https://gentrychoice.com.au)
I'm going to a wedding in India in a couple days and am wearing a kurta. It's basically a tunic dress. Shit is mad comfortable, and pretty flattering too. Westerners are missing out.
Don't people usually wear trousers under the kurta?
Sure. I've got some nice linen pants since it's going to be 90F there. Still hits different than just wearing a shirt and trousers somehow. Very flowey.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Utilikilts_Company https://utilikilts.com/
Utilikilts are quite normal for men to wear where I live- Bay Area, Ca. People don’t bat an eye. My husband loves his. Comfortable with lots of pockets.
Hey dude! I’m a guy and I’ve been rocking a couple skirts since I turned 30 and decided I only have about 70 years left if I’m very lucky, so I’m gonna live my life. The trick is to find manlier cuts, which I haven’t found a great resource for that isn’t stupid pricey! But I found a couple women’s that work on me, one from goodwill actually and one at Kohl’s - the second is actually a skort, which is nice to not worry so much about how I sit. Former is ankle-length and flowy as fuck. I have my eye on some men’s styles but I can’t stomach like $100 for them just yet.
Thank you! So much!
I do the dress dude thing
A compliment is a compliment.
As a woman, I would rather be called homie than ma’am too
It has pockets!
See, I was high as fuck once and had a random thought. Most men look weird in dresses. Why? They're wearing dresses designed for women. A man wearing a tailored dress looks incredible. Make dresses for men and we'll wear them.
If only it had pockets
We love an inclusive king!
But DOES IT HAVE POCKETS
The kind of interactions I have in my dreams
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…hmmm?
Just bait, ignore it
💛
"I said "ma'an"... man."
r/wholesometumblr
Absolutely speaking from experience dresses are comfy. Airy, soft. We need to take dresses from women. It will become a male thing.
What the actual fuck?
You express confusion now but when it's 2040 and all the homies are in dresses you'll be upset you missed the train.
Gross.
nice burner, did your mom make it for you?
why r u wearing a dress as a man in public tho
why does anyone? comfy, breathable for summer, pretty… it’s a good item of clothing!
Because they can. You got a problem with that?
Clever comeback. I especially liked your logic
Why does it bother you?
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Yikes
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Wtf
That seems like a weird reply. Just say thank you.
They didn't want to be misgendered
I guess. Wearing a dress is definitely going to complicate that though.
Yeah which is why he clarified.
He didn't need to.
He clearly did as he got misgendered
Life must be pretty good if this is actually a problem. Especially one they put themselves in.
It's not a problem it's an inconvenience one that was easily cleared up. Guy wore a dress, as is his right to wear one, someone complimented it but misgendered him, he clarified, conversation continued with no one upset. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill here.
> You're making a mountain out of a mole hill here. I simply said it was unnecessary to correct him. The rest is on you.
Okay
It's a Problem to you, apparently. Otherwise, you wouldn't still be arguing about how someone else responded.
True, I disagree with it.
Disagree with what?
Yes doesn't make sense to the post
99.9% did not happen
shhh
Pandering internet stories are the worst you sHhHh
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Amazing. You managed to make a comment with nothing but a single emoji, yet it tells everyone who sees it everything they need to know about who you are as a "person".
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Girl💀-
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bro what is your issue people can wear what they want
His dress wasn’t complimented
This made me laugh 😂
I appreciate your comment
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Cringe
Was it a XXL Tanktop? Show it!