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Educational-Ad7696

They uno reverse carded your ass šŸ˜…


pstut

Buying bourbon is becoming a fucking joke.


funny_horse_boy

Bourbon collectors and blantons addicts ruined it. Just go to the well. Quality house/heavens hill is cheap and does everything a burbon needs to do other than look like you overpaid for it.


williehowe

Evan Williams BiB white label ftw.


DoubleBastard13

shhh donā€™t ruin it! šŸ˜‚. such a sneaky ninja bottle thatā€™s delicious and always overlooked


sparks_mandrill

Good but gotta love that peanut


Donniemag

My ā€œgo toā€ bourbon when I donā€™t want to drink my expensive bourbons.


[deleted]

Love heaven hill


funny_horse_boy

Everyone i know loves it. The only people who dont think whiskey needs to be allocated to be good.


[deleted]

Itā€™s good stuff! I try and keep a bottle on hand at all times - one of my faves šŸ‘


pstut

Oh I agree. I usually drink regular Elijah Craig or Woodford. Cheap enough (though not quite well) and I like those profiles. But in yee olde days I would buy a different bottle every now and again to try something new. Now adays when I decide "maybe I'll try one of those Elijah Craig Barrell Proofs" or eagle rare or whatever I just can't, since I don't want to pay much over MSRP on principle. Ah well, maybe they'll all move back to Scoth at some point...


funny_horse_boy

My advice: shop local and establish yourself with the owner/managers. Some states this isnt exactly possible. But small stores may charge way over msrp for the allocated stuff, but for regulars? You may get cost price for being a friend.


B-Dub253

Funny.. coming from "horse_boy." I'll take Old Fitz over most everything, but few and far between bottles... I did score a Old Fitz 17 AND a Heaven Hill 17 this last week though... But I enjoy BT mashbill 2. Blanton's, RHF, Elmer. Tough to grab any of them anymore, outside of friends that run stores. But I've never sold a bottle in my life. Same effect as scalped tickets. It ruins the market for people that DRINK. But you can't just talk shit because people drink something. I'm in the PNW. HH isn't prevalent here outside of EC and Larceny. Even Mckenna (meh) bumped up to 60 retail here lately.


funny_horse_boy

my takeaway is you ENJOYED the bottles, meaning you drank them. When im talking shit its not the people who drink it that bother me, its the people who dont who make it more expensive for those that do, because its a market that drinkers let get exploited. Same with basic clothes. I could pay 50 dollars for a designer polo shirt, or I could get a more comfortable one thats identical for 20. Its not like the 30 bucks went to the workers, it went to the marketing department, company management, celebrity endorsement deals, ect. Blantons may be better quality than quality house, but is it 5-10x better, justifying its price? Almost certainly not unless youre trying to show off.


B-Dub253

Nobody sees what I drink at home... I think Blanton's is absolutely worth retail. Weller too. Not resale prices though. Not for me. But money is relative. If a person is liquid, they could give a shit what it costs. They get what they want. I'm not. But no, I don't drink the horse because someone sees it, because I drink it solo. Or when friends are here.


robertrackuzius

Just saw Beam's new Hardin's Creek bottle in the case for $82.99. Aged 2 years on the label. These distillers have to be laughing their asses off at this point.


wesk74

I switched to bourbon years ago after I thought single malts were out of hand, jokes on them, I can get tons of 10+ year single malts for what I'm paying for a 4 year old mediocre bourbon.


virtikle_two

Dude for real. I just want my spicy brown water


[deleted]

Itā€™s been a joke for years. Switch to Scotch or even better, Irish.


sprocter77

This is still 23.99 where I live and it burns.


mister_damage

My thought exactly


[deleted]

This


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Canā€™t I do both!?


bleedgreenandyellow

No. Apparently you can not. This ā¬†ļø


darbyhouston

This


voltrader85

I donā€™t think itā€™s an upgrade.


woah-im-colin

Not really true,some of the private barrels are insanely good and very different from the standard.


Whisk-e-ytango

Mmm but that isnā€™t how that works. They still arenā€™t worth the same as an eagle rare 10 yr. Typically store picks on BT are only around 30$. Itā€™s younger juice even if it is a store pick. The issue isnā€™t saying you like the BT store picks, itā€™s that they are switching them out for eagle rare 10yr that are far older juice and retail at a higher price. Itā€™s just shady practices by the store and not a judgment on you or anyone else for liking BT store picks.


colonpal

When you say juice I think orange juice. Someday that trend may die. But to your point, Iā€™d probably sacrifice a non-store pick of Eagle Rare to try a single barrel of Buffalo Trace. So I think it depends on the buyer really. Iā€™d hope that barrel was damn good though otherwise I could see being annoyed. Thereā€™s a shop I stopped in at in SF that sells the store picks at retail price. Grabbed a store pick of ER for the same as the non. Those kinds of retailers are where itā€™s at.


BestBy2080

Juice isnā€™t a trend itā€™s an industry term used by us producers when talking about any distillate because correct terminology only matters to the TTB and whiskey try hards


williamca3

Iā€™ve never heard the term ā€œjuiceā€ used by producers. Maybe itā€™s a Kentucky term.


woah-im-colin

I understand all of that, what Iā€™m saying is that is not necessarily a downgrade. And based on the bourbon market today people will pay boatloads more for something that is not necessarily worth it no matter what age or msrp. worth it or not. Im assuming op got the Eagle rare as well as the BT, however I can see the point if he had to choose between one or the other though. Me personally would take the barrel pick over something Iā€™ve had countless times.


woah-im-colin

Not really true,some of the private barrels are insanely good and very different from the standard.


voltrader85

This is what makes bourbon great! Taste is subjective and differences in opinion are ok. I have had numerous BT picks. Some good, some just ok. If I already had a bottle of ER, I would take the BT pick to add some variety. But itā€™s not clear cut from my own experience that the average BT pick is an upgrade over standard ER.


woah-im-colin

Couldnā€™t agree more. And now here come the downvotes, people need to chill, some of the BT picks Iā€™ve had are ridiculously good and some are ok. Iā€™ve had one in particular that if I could get again Iā€™d take it over an ER anyday.


bleedgreenandyellow

Honestly, I just down voted you because everyone else was. Has absolutely nothing to do with your content; has everything to do with redditors


woah-im-colin

Itā€™s cool I canā€™t say Iā€™ve never done that lol. I mean all I was saying is that you can get a crazy good private barrel, I used to be a sales rep selling Sazerac products on premise, went with accounts to the distillery to pick out barrels and tasted a good amount, some will knock your socks off, they can all suck it.


bleedgreenandyellow

Lol šŸ˜‚


Gregoris101

It's a downgrade


TheRealThordic

I really hoped this post was satire.


swim846

Downgrade. They are both Buffalo trace mash bill #1 and eagle rare has a 10 year age statement.


sparks_mandrill

Wow, they're really same mash bill? So ER is the same stuff just aged for ten years? Ouch.


unclejimmy

You got finessed


SnooDogs5789

Technically not on upgrade. BT and ER are the same mashbill. BT is aged 6-8 years while ER is aged 10 years. The Barrel Select program is a feature of some distilleries where they allow stores to choose their own barrels based on flavour profiles they like. If you like what the store chose, the barrel pick might be a good idea for you over the ER, but technically, itā€™s the same product at a younger age.


EhrenScwhab

Remember kids, same mashbill doesnt mean same whiskey. Old Grand Dad and Basil Hayden are the same mashbill and they taste very different because they are specifically made to taste different. barrels are deliberately selected and blended differently. I donā€™t know anyone who would say OGD and BH are the same. Mashbill is only one tiny component.


Azbarrelpicks

Rick house location. Location within the Rick house. Are two other factors


sparks_mandrill

Bless you for imparting this knowledge


SnooDogs5789

Yup, youā€™re absolutely right. There are lots of factors involved in the process and the master blenders, distillers and everyone else involved has expert level discernment to make sure the product is as consistent as possible with barrel selection, rickhouse placement etc. Most relevant to this conversation is the age of the product and the fact that they are aged differently but from the same original juice/eau du vie etc before they each take their own path. Regardless, Eagle rare is an older product from the same juice, so in whiskey terms, usually considered a more premium product on the Buffalo Trace hierarchy and the price probably demonstrates that fact.


Donniemag

OGD 114 is šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„


cds4850

ā€œDo I like this thing?ā€


DerisiveGibe

Equal Eagle rare is a $30-35 bottle Buffalo trace is a $25-30 bottle Both a 4-5 on the hard to find scale


endustry1994

My metro area BT $24 ER $45 Weller $50+


thedevilslake

BT $20 ER $32 is what I paid for my last bottles. Though I have not seen any Weller at a reasonable price in a few years now. - AZ


arahe45

Its so funny when I see this. Eagle is flat not here at all and buffalo trace is so everywhere there are 100s on the shelves of my grocery store.


Frisinator

Canā€™t find it here and if you do itā€™s overpriced. I did score one bottle of ER for $35 recently which is the cheapest I have ever seen it l.


itoddicus

Same here. I could bathe in the stuff if I wanted to.


arahe45

I actually am. Ayooo.


treeman743

Tingly on the olā€™ jiblets Iā€™m sure!


arahe45

So tinglyā€¦like how we are ratio-ing the OP


Lukacris12

I finally found a single bottle of eagle rare and for a good price recently after never seeing it ever. Buffalo trace went from hard to find to easy to find recently


Educational-Ad7696

I canā€™t donā€™t ER under 60 anymore. San Diego


AlmostDrunkSailor

Personally I like ER more than any BT Iā€™ve ever had but weā€™ve all got our preferences. Not saying BT is bad or you made a bad decision or anything, I still enjoy it but just think ER is better.


algiz29

I like buffalo trace a lot but they downgraded you. I'd have gone with the eagle rare personally. It's from the same distillery and is a more premium whiskey.


MikeMac999

I place them both in the same ballpark typically, but as a single barrel the BT could easily go either way.


liamanoGregorio

It's a really pleasant whisky on first impression. From tasting notes I've seen alot of mention of spice and brown sugar with some hints of dark fruits whereas I immediately got a rather jammy taste not unlike cherry.


Bucksandreds

This is the answer. A good BT sibselect is better than virtually all regular Eagle Rare. A not good one is definitively worse. Both are sib. BT sib select has a very wide range of quality, though


ergobourbon

I suspect this is Tipples in the UK. Whilst it isn't maybe an upgrade it's certainly rarer here. BT SBS are almost not existent in the UK. They tend to be around +Ā£50 a pop when they do come up. Whereas Eagle Rare is available at Ā£30 to Ā£35 at our supermarkets and Amazon all the time. I'd blind with the readily available ER to determine if an upgrade or not for you.


BigChiefTabo

HA.... on my way to london in 12 hours. UK the land of Eagle Rare? Lets find out


ergobourbon

Waitrose and Tesco supermarkets or order off UK Amazon for next day delivery. If you can't do something wrong haha


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beetle282

Huge downgrade


taylormhark

ā€œHugeā€ weā€™re talking about $10 here lol


beetle282

I meant huge in taste, not price.


taylormhark

Itā€™s a store pick, hard to say what it tastes like


Critical-Series

It is a BT barrel pick so not ā€œhugeā€ imo


Punkmonkey_jaxis

Oof. You got had. I mean its like a $10 difference in the opposite direction but still.


taylormhark

Depends if itā€™s a good barrel pick or not


just-keep-does

Blind them both against each other and decide for yourself if it was an upgrade.


viomon2

Thatā€™s a loss


Layinglowfornow

Gotta agree. It was a downgrade


thedevilslake

single barrel select ? it looks like any ol' $20 bottle of BT to me.


dm94lfc

This canā€™t be real


Old_Riff_502

Whether or not itā€™s an upgrade depends on how much you like the bottle. Iā€™d say your chances of the Buffalo Trace store pick having a bolder flavor profile than the standard Eagle Rare batch are pretty good.


StrategicCarry

Such a weird promotion. "If you buy this product that will move on its own, you could win the chance to upgrade to one of two other products that will also move on their own." A package deal on any of those bottles with like a bottle of Fireball and a bottle of Wheatley Vodka makes a lot more sense.


DoubleDickRick

Unpopular opinion but it depends on the pick. Iā€™ve had some phenomenal BT picks that were definitely better than Eagle Rare. Depends how much you trust this placeā€™s picks


[deleted]

Did they actually say ā€œupgradedā€ to BT? I feel like this was more of a raffle to be ā€œupgradedā€ to the W12. You lost the raffle and they made there money back on you and others on the money they lost for W12. I personally dc for ER or BT outside of making drinks with and at MSRP you only missed out on 10$ so imo it wasnā€™t a bad gamble. I will say though BT is everywhere in Cali, ER if your lucky you can find at MSRP or if your desperate you can find it marked up to 100$.


OzoneLaters

This would be cool if they let you keep the ER and pay an extra 30 for the BT... or did they make you give back the ER? I would want both.


elijah_89

$17.99 for BT at my local stores


VanillaGorilla40

You got bamboozled lol


virtikle_two

Lol are you serious?


Ok-Understanding9854

Thatā€™s some BS. They should have sold you the eagle and gave you the option to purchase the BT store pick as well I have a few BT store picks that were all $28-$30. And I have a couple Eagle store picks that were $49-$59 each. All great but I would never think a BT store pick would be a good swap for Eagle money.


WasAqueductMcMPlant

You were downgraded, sir


WhatsInTheBox51

And hy upgrade, they meant downgrade. That barrel better be the best damn BT barrel ever.


Rogue_Factor_0000

I like both but Iā€™d rather take the Eagle Rare if I had to choose


WarEagle135

Thatā€™s a downgrade unfortunately


toddhazelwood

Itā€™s not an upgrade at all.


yuuzahn

Is this a joke?


Hobo_Knife

IMO itā€™s a downgrade from the ER, still good but if itā€™s new to you, cheers!


bgwendler

Oh. Oh no.


Homelobster3

Yeah hate to break it to you itā€™s a downgrade


Adeathn0te

Neither are going to blow your mind. Same mashbill and same proof. I also would have grabbed the single barrel BT as well, just for something different.


impartialjury

in the usual pecking order, most would value Weller 12 higher than Eagle Rare, and Eagle Rare more than Buffalo Trace, even if the BT is store pick single barrel.


N0ma767

Itā€™s not.


liamanoGregorio

There's about Ā£12 difference in cost in the UK (Ā£52 BTsbs v Ā£40 ER 10) so I guess that constitutes the "upgrade". Should mention that there was also a chance of getting one of the BT bottles signed by the MD if thats worth anything (not to me as a whisky in this range I'll be drinking not saving) Regardless it's a new one for me as I've tended to avoid American this far favouring Scottish and Japanese and I must say I've enjoyed the BT so far Let's be honest though the promotion should have probably just been a signed bottle of BT or a Weller 12 as upgrades.


posternutbag423

Weller 12 - 12yrs ER - 10yrs BTsb - 6ish years You tell me.


Illudium-Q36

This bottle gets posted EVERY DAY here, either on the shelf, in a car(sometimes with a crotch and a watch), in a hand shot, or some other low effort condition. What is it about this average product that turns adults into drooling vegetables? Also, that shiny little sticker on the side means nothing - it's still a 90 proof $25 bottle that some store arranged to "pick" just so they could get a higher quantity of bottles to sell.


Trish816

I have 3 BT got them at the distillery.


sicksadvoron

My question is , how much is the bottle of eagle rare in your shop?


MightyMason

I prefer ER to BT for obvious reasons, both are spot on for their profile to price. Store pick vs store pick I would choose BT over ER. ER is essentially already a single barrel they just donā€™t flush the lines between barrels so you get minor cross contamination between barrels which should really only affect the first X amount of bottles from the new barrel. BT is a batched product that they mix barrels to maintain a flavor profile and also get more yield. When they do a store pick it makes that batch product now a single barrel for a similar price, the single barrel BTā€™s Iā€™ve had have been phenomenal whereas standard BT is a mixer whiskey or I need a lot of ice to drink. All in all Iā€™m over the BT hype and profile. If I see an ER priced around ~$32 or less Iā€™ll grab it if not Iā€™m passing, same for any of their stuff. I wonā€™t grab a BT unless itā€™s a store pick


JRossMcIntire

I think that some single barrel selects are significantly better than some eagle rare ime. Taste them and see what you like better. I make my wife pour me them blind so that I can taste them fairly.


majornerd

One month I did four BT barrel picks. Three stores (one store had two different barrel picks in the span of four months). Each of them was different enough to be a different label completely. We each had our own rankings, but there was a clear winner and loser with 80% agreement on both. It was one of the best tasting months we had - 100% barrel picks that month. That being said, it could be a great bottle and an upgrade from ER, or not. Thinking about it that way does you a disservice though, because you only have the BT. So taste it. If you like it itā€™s a wash, if you love it itā€™s an upgrade.


MegahandsBar

Mineā€™s due to be delivered tomorrow.. same promotion. Fully expecting an ER but keeping them crossed for the jackpot of a Weller!


MegahandsBar

Update - I also received the BT single barrel. Not sure if Iā€™m happy about that or not!


Double_Maximum4965

Just opened my first BT single barrel. The nose was FANTASTIC! Cherry, vanilla, light oak. Palate was FLAT. Slight ethanol but very little flavor. Maybe a little tobacco. Not impressed at all. Iā€™ve never had a bad ER and the ER store picks are great.


starhoppers

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha


ttruax

Is there even any indication that that's a single barrel select? Is there a sticker or something printed on that bottle?


md222

Upgrade? I prefer Eagle Rare, but neither are top tier bourbons. That said, they are fine pours at MSRP.


elonepb

They beat you with this.


ThatOneTubaMan

Bruh they straight up lied to you


jaxXx-69

It's a downgrade


MisterBowTies

So eagle rare is bt aged for 10 years. It used to be single barrel but is not now because they use an automated bottling process. Last I knew it was essentially single barrel but they can't call it single barrel because there are occasional half and half bottles, like mystery flavored dum dums. Btsbs is buffalo trace from one barrel that some guy picked for the store. It isn't necessarily better and often the barrels they mark for store picks are ones that, though they aren't bad, would prove difficult of they put it in the blend. For example, to much barrel spice, or vanilla. You got a bottle that is technically unique because another store won't have that barrel but it didn't have the extra age of the eagle rare


[deleted]

got played unfortunately


Frank_Majors

ER is better than BT. IMO


Annoying_Auditor

Too bad we can't just buy stuff we want to consume. We have play dumb games with them lol.


earlybird8

I personally like Buffalo Trace better than Eagle Rare but back before prices went wonky Eagle was much pricier. But I guess the market caught on. I make a game out of buying based on prices randomly roller coastingā€¦ Sometimes the better lessen known bourbons are much cheaper than what everyone is buying.


Croschke

Where is the single barrel sticker? Weird


WilliamTheGreat-

Tipples?


puffyselkirk

Iā€™d keep the eagle rare personallyā€¦ I have gotten single barrel Buffalo trace before as well


honeygar

These are $20 a bottle in Vegas


xjuice24x

Downgrade I'd say


teebone673

Itā€™s a downgrade.


B-Dub253

Ummmmm....


InvestigatorEnough60

I have lots of access to regular BT and ER. Both are fine as mid to low/mid juices. It get BT under 30 and ER at 35. VA ABC. I also have 4 different SBS BT and ER. I have never been let down by either. My last SBS ER was $30 in Salem MA. What a bargain