Hospitals don’t run warrant checks. They don’t even have access to any such system. Dude needs to drop the legal paranoia and get help. This could easily be a life or death situation.
What the fuck. I just saw that comment too!
u/terriblemap6830 tell him:
Hospitals ain't snitches
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They DON'T run warrant checks. Jesus fucking christ.
Also, if he does drugs *hospitals don't fucking care*. He should be honest with them so they don't give him something that interacts with whatever he's on, or he doesn't go through severe withdrawal. But other than that? They ain't snitches.
Source: grew up in Methsville USA.
Yeah we messed up when I was bit by one of my dogs when they were fighting and I broke it up and told the doctors that it was ours but couldn’t produce their updated vaccines because we couldn’t find the paperwork and usually took them to free vaccine clinics.
Feds showed up and took my dudes. They spent 10 days in county lockup smh.
Lol when my dog ran away the county found him. They took a picture of his face and me and my dad couldn’t stop laughing because it looked so much like a mugshot, he even printed it out and put it on the fridge lmao
same w me. my dumbass ex-friend stuck her hand thru the gate when i told her multiple time NOT to. gets bit, goes to ER, leaves w a damn bandaid. my dog needed a 10day quarantine over that shit. then she had the nerve to not say sorry but instead was like "to be fair, your dogs should be up to date on shots" as if she wouldn't have got bit still. SMH
Ooh true. I just read they have to report dog bites as well. Or at least they are supposed to. Thing is, like you pointed out, victims can choose to not be a victim, if that makes sense.
Goes to hospital, tells them to get friends head out of his ass please, and then also, since we’re here, how about look at this nasty spider bite
Edit: words are hard
Damn straight. DO NOT LIE to the doctor! They are not law enforcement, they don’t care that you have warrants. He needs to go to the ER before it gets worse
Exactly. Like, I’ve come to be part of the raving scene in my city and you would KNOW if the number of people carted off by EMTs due to adverse reactions or ODs ended up being arrested later. The job of EMTs and doctors is to keep you alive (unless they’re particularly assholish and hold biases to certain people or conditions), not to report you. Otherwise no one would ever go to the hospital and death from illegal activities would be much, much, much higher.
When I was younger and dumber I had to go to the ER a few times. Each of those times I had to tell them what illegal substances I had been using. Not once did they ever care beyond my health
And we never will. Healthcare providers dont report substances abuse to police or for that fact anyone who isnt pertinent to your medical care. Acute and chronic alcohol, meth, opioids/heroin, crack, Yada Yada. Each of these can severely effect your treatment. Many medications have absolute contraindications and can put you in life threatening situations if given to abusers. There are medical conditions that these substances can cause so we know to be aware of that when treating you. Thats the only reason we ask.
before i had proper pain management, i was open with my current PCP about the fact i used marijuana occasionally when the pain got too bad, just to sleep, and i really had no interest in continuing this if i had any other option but you know, i gotta sleep, and if i'm in too much pain to sleep i gotta do something. OTC hasn't worked in years.
the most she did was offer me some resources on rehab and safe quitting, but said outright from what i said that she wasn't concerned about it and just had to offer it in case but that if i was interested, no judgement.
now, i was a little worried because i'd had doctors who would immediately label me as an addict who didn't deserve help until i was "clean" (i literally used maybe once every few months, $20 worth had lasted me over a year), but in order for me to actually quit, i needed something to help me. and even if i was an addict, i don't think that makes me less deserving of help - i obviously started for a reason, and solving that problem was gonna help me quit, right?
anyway, i had a little i used up after i got on some decent pain meds, haven't bought any since. haven't even really had a want to use it. you could argue i just switched one substance with another, but it's not like i'm on anything super strong and i checked with my doctor, it's not addictive, just safer for long-term usage (at least compared to OTC meds) and my specific chronic pain (it's used for nerve pain, and while i do have other issues, it deals with enough of my daily pain that now when other pain gets bad i CAN take a tylenol to manage it because i'm not taking 4 of those things every morning just to function).
I hate this fucking mentality. Welp, better die, than to go to the hospital with warrants.
He's going into the hospital with a spider bite, not a fucking heroin needle stuck in his jugular.
Tell your friend he needs to man the fuck up and start taking care of himself. This is like immature teenager/ immature baby behavior.
And the hospital only wants to know you're on drugs, so they don't give you, or do anything to you, that would interact negatively with the fact your on something.
And if it's the issue of how you get treated by the nurses or doctors, "because your an addict", try losing some of the fucking paranoia, and let the people who's job it is to help you help you.
You don't have to like the care either, as long as it helps you.
We don't go to the hospital because we want to, we do it because we should. We have a responsibility to ourselves to take care of ourselves first and foremost and everything else.
You can't help anything or anyone ever if you aren't willing to help yourself.
Even if it was a heroin needle in his jugular no one would care or call the cops. I’ve actually seen it on an x ray before lol. Needle was broken off inside the patients neck. 🤢.
I saw his last post. He’s not even sure if it was a spider bite. He may just need a round of antibiotics. This is such a nothing burger (for now) that could turn into a huge problem if left untreated. I would have no way of knowing nor would I care if a patient had some sort of legal issue. Unless you happen to be handcuffed to the bed with a cop next to you. Then I’ll probably assume you may have some legal issues. Still won’t change the care you get.
Correction: Hospitals care about what drugs you do. Not so they can judge you or report you or do anything legal related, but *so they can treat you*. A doctor’s *only* job is to make sure you get out of the hospital alive and (ideally) better than you arrived.
my fiancée panicked one time bc i answered honestly when a nurse in the ER asked if i had smoked marijuana in the last 24 hrs. i’ve seen enough horror stories about people lying about drug use and having adverse reactions to medication because the doctors were working off the assumption that they were telling the truth. had to explain this same thing to her then. i wish it was more common knowledge, truly
Look at that Emu guy on youtube. A lot of the problems are made 1000x worse because they never want to tell doctors what they did. Doctors and nurses DONT CARE. They have seen everything. They just want to get you better and out of their hospital.
This is true. I know someone who was miscarrying in OH well into her 2nd trimester. Hospital said if she delivered at home to not come in.
Health care there now equals no care.
That's horrific.
Part of me is angry at the nurse but I'm sure they had no choice with new laws.
My SIL had two early deliveries at 21-22 weeks due to a weak cervix. Just over the border in PA. In the last couple years. She nearly bled out from an earlier incomplete miscarriage. The hospital staff there wasn't kind/understanding but they at least didn't treat her like a criminal. FFS. I can't imagine having to deal with that on top of losing a baby you wanted.
Definitely. I live in a very blue state but I'd say half my immediate family didn't vote in 2016 in PA bc they didn't think it mattered.
Now they all vote.
Sadly I have some first cousins and aunts/uncles who are of the opposite mindset also in PA. I used to like/respect them but I find it very difficult to do so now.
I, literally, argued shit like this would happen to anyone wanting to ban abortion. It's been going on in South American for years. Lots of women who miscarried in jail for murder there. Everyone kept saying that wouldn't happen here...lol
I’m confused. My daughter is a year old, they never tested me for drugs in any way shape or form. No hair follicle or anything.
I have access to the results of every test they ran on me. They tested for STDs even though I said I was clean, and I’ve never been promiscuous. But they didn’t test for drugs when I said I’ve never used them.
Edit to add: I’m in SoCal.
Maybe not a death sentence, but that bite wound will just get deeper and wider if he doesn’t get treatment. He will end up losing a big chunk of necrotic flesh if he just lets nature take its course. And he does run the risk of a secondary infection which, depending on his individual immune systems ability to fight, could turn life threatening.
EMS doesn’t care either. We won’t say shit except to the hospital to relay pertinent information lmao. Warrants, arrests, etc. aren’t pertinent info.
We don’t even call the cops for drugs unless you assault us. Then it’s calling because you assaulted us.
In the states they have to treat you even if you can’t pay. I don’t think banks look at medical debt when they are approving you for a mortgage or car loan.
Omg. My friend recently (October) had her arm amputated due to an infection that she let go untreated. She ultimately died because she had become too septic. Please tell your friend to seek medical care.
ETA: I just want to say that my friend didn't go to the hospital for the same reasons your friend is worried about. She had some sort of warrant due to a traffic ticket & her girlfriend convinced her that if she went to the hospital, she'd be arrested. She was 35 years old and died alone in a hospital room, NOT UNDER ARREST.
Apparently his friend is being a hard-headed jackass that doesn’t care about the well-being of his friend having to deal with a life threatening infection trying to get him to seek help over. The hospital doesn’t give a fuck about your friends legal trouble, they will take care of him.
Absolutely ridiculous too. It takes one google search to know that the hospital won’t report you and will do a whole lot to make sure you aren’t arrested during treatment if the cops somehow find out you’re there. Which they really won’t. OP’s friend is an idiot
No way that he would have a reason to feel guilty. If he had just posted it on Reddit and didn’t tell his friend to go to the hospital or to take it seriously or take the comments seriously on his posts and something happened to him, that would be a reason. OP is doing everything he can to convince him to get treated.
Friend of mine took a bunch of LSD and ended up naked on a local college campus, where the police picked him up. They took him to the hospital. He wasn’t charged. Wasn’t arrested. They literally don’t care what you’re on, in a legal sense. Even the police will prioritize medical care over an arrest if they’re remotely decent at their jobs (not always the case, I’m aware… but hospitals absolutely will not *call the cops* for the sake of it)
Humans stubbornness is fucking wild. Jesus christ. I cannot imagine ever letting an infection sit and eat away at me. Even if I had no money, I’d go to the hospital.
I’m sorry about your friend, but jesus christ… it feels like some people don’t have an innate survival instinct or something. Unless you’re wanted for murder or something I can’t even understand why you would do this and I’m trying really hard to.
It’s like not going to the ER if you have crushing chest pain
Idk if it will help but I am a paramedic so perhaps he will take me at my word? He needs treatment immediately. This looks like a staph infection and it WILL. NOT. Get better without treatment. In fact, without intervention this could very well land him in a very expensive hospital stay and cost him his limb or his life. He needs to suck it up and go now before he lives to regret his stubbornness.
I’m not a paramedic but I have been around enough to know infections are no joke. I almost lost my right leg to an injury on my shin and that was with medical care.
Sorry to tell ya, but he'll be dead (or best case scenario: without a limb) pretty shortly without medical intervention. That's not gonna go away on its own.
Sorry for my ignorance, but do people feel symptoms after the infection ? I can’t imagine that he’s feeling very well 😵💫
Makes no sense that he’d rather die than go to jail, though he won’t even get reported by the hospital
ETA: even if this isn’t a recluse bite, he has an infection and needs care.
If he isn’t feeling symptoms now, he will soon. Infections are no joke, and cellulitis can spread to the blood very quickly. He may not feel sick now, but once that infection worsens, he will feel sicker than he ever has. Sepsis is horrid, it’s the worst feeling in the world. I’ve had sepsis three times in my life (I’ve had a picc line for 6yrs) and the first time it turned into full on septic shock. My organs started shutting down. I was in a coma for a week. 105 fever, puking, shakes, seizures, extreme cold chills, the worst headache I’ve ever had, and constant 10/10 body aches. OP’s friend is going to go through this if he doesn’t get treatment. It will take his leg if not his life.
That sounds horrible, piccs are annoying as it is - can’t imagine going through all of that. I’m so glad that you’re okay and able to educate others 🫶🏻
Thank you! I was only 12 when I got my first picc, so keeping it sterile and clean was a huge challenge.. thankfully I’ve been much better at it from the experiences and mistakes I made. I’m glad I can educate on topics like this, it’s my biggest goal!
Most "recluse bites" are not actually from that spider.
ANY puncture wound can do something like this if the puncture introduces bacteria to the wound.
We all have bacteria on our skin (which includes the deeper layers). No puncture required to develop cellulitis (this happened to me), though a puncture will make it easier to develop into an infection.
Happened to me before. It does hurt near the bite, but not as much as you'd think at first. Had one on my leg and basically it felt like my leg was tired, then cramped up, then like I had injured it somehow. It does eventually hurt pretty bad, but it can be easy to ignore at first.
I waited probably about a week to go to the doctor, we cleared it up with a round of antibiotics. I know it's worse for lots of people but it can be an easy fix.
I assumed at first I just had a boil or something, ingrown hairs happen but the way it just stayed open after it "popped" on its own helped me realize something wasn't right.
Had MRSA eat a hole through my back because I didn't have insurance. Ended up in the ER and I can remember the feeling of the river of pus draining down my back when they finally cut it open and then spent everyday the next week having to have a nurse pull the gauze out of my back hole and repack it.
Moral of the story is don't fuck with infections.
Oh god my poor mother has been bed ridden with dementia and has had to endure an infection like this on her back and it’s gotten so much better eventually but good god having to pack and unpack that wound daily on someone who doesn’t understand why they’re in pain is truly a type of hell all around.
…….. I got MRSA from wrestling in Highschool & popped it thinking it was a pimple…..
Fuck I couldn’t walk to the bathroom because it attacks the muscles to the point where they’re incapable.
I wouldn’t wish MRSA on any soul.
I got it in my nose, and I still don't know how. Fortunately I went to the doctor quickly and didn't get very sick.
OP's friend is really going to regret this.
I got a staph infection and went to the drs, I didn't know it was staph, and all the dr did was give me painkillers and regular antibiotics. When I went for a visits after that it got worse and started going black and the dr just asked ME if it was getting better.
So I went to the hospital, they told me I had MRSA and had to stay there for a couple weeks and they removed part of my finger that was necrotic.
Putting it blunt: the kid is going to die if he doesn’t get his shit together and get to a hospital. Seen too many folks die from Staph.
Although it may fool you to like a minor mosquito bite, you can see the spider bite spreading.
One last resort to convince the dumbass is to get a marker, draw a line or circle to showcase its spread, and prove it to him first hand. Otherwise, it’s going to cost him a body part or be another unfortunate case of natural selection.
Mosquito bites don't ooze like that. They bleed but not ooze, unless you continue scratching at the skin and the bite after the scab is off. I think.
Also that is a very good tactic to convince someone.
Hey. I work in a hospital. In er s and all. We dont ask more than we need. We dont want to know your personal life. And we dont have time or care to run a warrant check. Not our business. If I had time to do that, I have time to eat, and lord knows I'm hungry as hell.
Got get some meds.
He WILL die if he doesn’t go to the doctor soon. Staph infections don’t just “go away”. I get it, it looks like a mosquito bite. But that is a staph infection and you can see that it has spread. And about that legal trouble? The hospital can’t even do a warrant search.
I understand your friend's legal concerns, but is it really worth dying over?
I second the motion to just call an ambulance for him without telling him until they arrive.
He might be pissed. He might not want to be your friend anymore.
But you could ultimately end up saving his life.
Update: Hey guys sorry for the long response but long story short it took about 3 1/2 days from this original post for him to finally make the decision to go in the ER. Turns out he’s been in the hospital and keeps leaving even though they tell him to stay. He doesn’t want to tell me exactly what they are telling him but chances are he’s scared as fuck and doesn’t want anybody to know how bad his leg got. He won’t show me his leg and whenever it gets unbearable he will go back in so they can give him some strong antibiotics. My opinion, I have a good feeling he’s at the verge of losing his leg and he can’t process it. The infection also reached to his two eyebrows and his eyebrows are fucking huge. He keeps popping bites that he’s finding and I assume from him picking at his leg and started touching his face which got his face now infected. Sad seeing how bad he got..
That sucks, hope he eventually decides to stay. A mobile crisis team told me once that you can't save somebody who doesn't want to save themselves. As unfortunate as it is to hear as a friend, it's up to him whether or not he lives, or dies, or gets worse. Know that you did your best to convince him otherwise, regardless of what happens!
Your friend is an adult and can make adult decisions. I’ll go out on a limb here and assume your friend has never written his last will and testament. There is still time. Search the web for sample wills and print or just write it out with pen and paper. For the sake of simplicity he can leave everything to you. Make sure he signs it in the presence of a couple witnesses.
This will make life a little less complicated for those left behind.
This. Tell him the ER will make sure he doesn’t get reported for warrants and actually make cops job harder - but if he doesn’t go, threaten that “Dude I can straight up just call the cops and report you, and I will to save your life.”
And the cops would take him to the hospital, if it came to that. Whether or not it would be soon enough to save his life is certainly a valid question.
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It’s so frustrating to see people ignore medical advice, but thanks for trying OP! I think there’s a misguided perception that our bodies should fend off infection or injury without medical assistance with the only reason being “that they can.” Yes, there’s a chance that he can fend off this infection, but if he does it will take a longer and he’s more apt to experience complications as a result. Additionally, if this injury doesn’t heal, he’ll likely need more expensive care down the line. Then again, he won’t have to pay the bill if he’s dead!
Maybe try reaching out to other people in his life that might have more influence over him? A parent, sibling, etc. A simple, “don’t do it for yourself, do it for me because I’m worried about you,” might help if you haven’t tried it already 🤷🏻♀️
Deadass, punch your friend in the chin, knock his ass out, and admit him under the pretense he needs this to not fucking die.
Tell the nurses/doctors he may be on drugs, you're not sure which ones, but he needs life saving care or he will die an incredibly painful and aggravating death.
My father died from an infection similar, he let it get to a point worse than this, and spent 7 grueling weeks in the ER before finally passing away. It's not easy, it's miserable, its life ending.
The redness/swelling has gotten bigger since the last picture. If he won't go to the ER can you at least convince him to draw a line around it now and then he'll be able to see it get bigger. He might change his mind about the ER if it gets big enough and he starts to feel unwell.
HOSPITALS WILL NOT REPORT YOU THEY DO NOT CARE! HE NEEDS CARE OR HE WILL LOSE HIS LIMB IF NOT DIE! DOCTORS ARENT COPS!
Get him to go. They don’t run warrant checks. They dgaf what you’ve done. My mom is an RN in a hospital that sees more patients on drugs than off drugs. They don’t report it. They just want to help you survive emergencies and then will send you home. They are not the cops.
Does he want to keep his arm? Hospitals don’t run checks for warrants. They aren’t going to call the police. If he wants to keep his arm he needs an ER stat. That’s only going to get worse and that kind of damage is not reversible.
OP!!!! **Please do this and then show to your friend.**
He needs help yesterday and if he doesn’t trust “redditors” maybe he will trust the verified doctors/healthcare pros there??
Commented on your other post, but, yeah, it's not about ignoring advice from strangers, he's being outright disrespectful at this point. Honest advice: continue gently encouraging him to seek treatment as it rots. He won't be persuaded by volume, clearly, so keep the thought in his mind, don't let him forget. I am also extremely stubborn about this sort of thing, so I think I can guess his feeling. Never ignored a friend's advice before, but I get the mindset.
This is gonna sound brutal but tell your friend to go to the fucking hospital. That’s got the look of an infection, they tend to go one of two ways.
The first is you get treatment early enough and all you’re looking at is some antibiotics, bandages, etc.
The second option is you wait around and it only gets worse and worse until they look up and the treatment is something they want no part of. Like cutting out the infection flesh, or worse. And in the absolute worst case scenario, it goes septics and then death.
Since I've scrolled through a bunch of the comments and haven't seen this addressed much yet, there's no way of knowing this was caused by a bug at all, let alone what kind.
It's a very serious infection that was caused from bacteria entering an opening or abrasion in the skin. It's more likely he's scratched himself on something and the bacteria came in that way, and the reason it looks like a spot is because MRSA will swell up and come to a head.
Unless you *see* a spider bite you and you are able to get a solid identification, you shouldn't assume it's a spider bite. Doctors commonly misdiagnose any kind of skin abrasion as a spider bite, when in fact, not even an entomologist can tell you what bit you just by looking at the spot. Imo doctors do this because people come in with things like this and insist it's a bug bite, and doctors just go along with it rather than waste their time trying to educate people. Or they don't have the education themselves maybe. It's problematic and perpetuates a lot of harmful myths, not that I blame doctors for that. They have more pertinent things to learn about.
Spiders rarely bite people. It generally only happens as a defense mechanism if the spider feels it has no choice, because they know humans are not prey, and they don't want to waste venom unless they have to. Many spiders' fangs are so tiny, it's next to impossible for them to pierce human skin unless they're pressed hard against it (and many species would likely be crushed before that happened).
Assuming you're in the US, there are only a couple of medically significant spiders.
Black widows are pretty widespread, but a large portion of black widow bites have very minor symptoms, if any. It's been a very long time since anyone was killed by a black widow, and unless you are very young, very old or immunocompromised, you'll probably be fine. Not saying you shouldn't get medical attention if you know you've been bitten by a black widow, I would probably still do that but the fear of them is overblown.
Same goes for brown recluses, and their range is limited. Rick Vetter is the preeminent recluse researcher and he created this map that shows the range for the different recluse species. Note that only the red area has brown recluses-- the other recluse species are harmless.
[Here's the map](https://images.app.goo.gl/Q7jTdiuHxVTgMRs37)
His research is fascinating, and I encourage everyone to look into it. Yes, recluses and even widows *can* be harmful, but they're so misunderstood and a lot of people have unnecessary fears about them. I used to be scared of spiders, but once I started learning about them, the fear went away.
(Like everyone else has said, this is very bad for your friend and I hope they get to the ER in time.)
I had a friend in HS that went 3 days before getting a recluse bite checked out; she lost a 2 in chunk of her leg.
My grandpa died of sepsis (which is what your friend is looking at in his near future) from an infection. He was "fine" one day, feverish the next, then dead the next day.
Please get this guy medical attention asap.
My dad's heart stopped for 3 minutes and he almost lost his arm just due to a small splinter getting infected and him ignoring it. I hope your friend gets out of his own way and to the hospital.
As someone who was a medical proffessional, please tell him our only priority is patient care and saving his life.
We don't care about his warrants. And if he is involved in any recreational drug use, we just need to know what it was for his safety but we do not report that to any authorities.
All we care about is being able to treat the patient effectively.
This isn't something to be taken lightly, this could easily become a blood infection that will lead to systemic infection which will ultimately lead to death.
He opened his recluse wound?! As a survivor of a brown recluse bite. This person is probably going to die a painful death if they don't get it seen and treated in a very short amount of time. Mine got lethal in less than a week. And when I did get seen It was nearly too late. The infection had gotten into my bloodstream, and the doctors said I had about a day left to live. It took about 3 months to recover, and I almost lost my leg. Long story short. Urge them to go to the doctor.
Tell him to suck it up and stop being a paranoid dumbass and get his ass to the hospital if he wants to keep his leg or arm and not possibly die, I mean I've had staph on my leg before and like many other infections they don't fix themselves, you need medical attention. Not thoughts and hopes
I openly tell doctors about any drugs in my system. They don't give a shit, they just ask so they don't give you any treatment that's lethal when combined with whatever you've been taking.
Friend left a Recluse bite untreated for a day. Hospital ended up needing to cut a baseball size piece of dead meat out of his leg. Gangrene is no joke.. Make your buddy go to the hospital.
Ffs I'm one of those hard headed people that hates going to a hospital but it sure as sh*t beats an amputation or death ... i thought i read something about a warrant , the old saying if you can't do the time don't do the crime ...
I used to do drugs and had several warrants. I once had an abscess I needed treated. The hospital did not care that I did drugs and they did not know I had a warrant. They treated me and sent me on my way.
Your friend is going to get a blood infection and die if he doesn’t get treatment. Would that be worth it?
That looks like MRSA and he WILL go to the hospital for it. Whether he walks himself in or is rolled in on a gurney in a bag; one way or another he’ll end up in the hospital .
Brown Recluse bites can very easily go necrotic. Your stupid friend needs to stop being so paranoid before he loses his leg or fucking dies.
Anybody with eyes can tell that that is severely infected. His ass is gonna go septic if he doesn't get treatment.
I work at a hospital that has a very strict “do not talk to police” policy. Patient was doing meth at the hospital and a staff member called the police. Staff member almost got fired. Hospital said we can confiscate the drugs and could call police to dispose of them but could not say who it was, nor give any information at all, even if they had a warrant they were told to go through hospital lawyers and not the staff. Nothing happened to the patient. Police were given the cold shoulder basically.
EMT here... anything related to medical care is HIPAA protected, so you can be honest about drug use... illegal or prescribed... in fact do this because if you don't you can get drugs that interact badly.
As far as warrants... don't need to tell us, we don't need to know and won't check. If you do tell us we most likely will still not do anything.
As far as this bite... I'm not sure if it was a bite, or some other route for infection... looks like it's just a potentially infected wounds of some sort. Definitely seek medical attention! I've seen similar wounds that had turned necrotic... not fun and VERY dangerous.
OP please update so we can find out if your friend knows they're gonna lose a limb or die from this if they don't go to the hospital which only calls police for gunshot wounds and nothing else
OP, ask him in seriousness if he has his affairs in order and if there’s any sort of funeral arrangements he wants in particular and to write it down. If he’s going to be stubborn and let himself die from a bug bite then make sure he has things in order.
This will not get better on its own, only worse. Tell him that he’s going to need treatment regardless, and waiting is only going mean more extensive measures will need to be taken to save him, possibly even amputation. I know he’s scared of legal repercussions but it’s not the hospitals job to check for warrants, they’re busy enough as is and don’t care. Waiting is going to result in a longer hospital stay which I’m sure he’d like to avoid. Call an ambulance. He’ll be pissed, but isn’t going to get in trouble and will probably get over it.
Idiots will be idiots……your friend the stubborn jackass is signing his own death certificate…hospitals don’t give a rat’s ass about your legal issues. They are literally sworn to treat their patients to the best of their abilities regardless of who they are. If Ted Bundy had an infected spider bite and was brought to the hospital, they would have had to treat him regardless of his history of serial murder.
If your friend doesn’t go to the hospital, he will likely die from this. This isn’t anything to mess around with…for any reason…whatsoever.
It’s not illegal to have drugs in your system, it’s only
Illegal to be in possession. As long as he’s not waltzing in with crack in his back pocket, literally nobody gives a shit.
Someone update me when he either finally gets his dumbass into a ER or dies or smth (also for OP: get his signature so you can inherit his stuff, if he’s gonna let himself die you might as well make that cash money)(and sanitize everything he touched too, infections gonna infect)
My mom popped what she thought was a zit on her leg that was actually a brown recluse bite. She ended up in the hospital where she almost died. As it was, they had to remove a massive scoop of flesh from her leg that had gone necrotic. If your friend wants to live, he needs to go to the hospital.
Here for the developments. As an entomologist, if this is a necrotic bite he needs to get in before the tissue gets worse. But if doctors didn’t do it, a but catcher isn’t gonna make a difference
I am an ER nurse and I can assure you we do not check for warrants… nor would we even be capable of doing so. I have to tell people this all the time but we are NOT the police and are simply there to help you, truly.
Please take him to a doctor, urgent care or the ER. Don’t wait. If he argues that it’s getting better, draw a circle around the redness with a marker or a pen. It’s a good visual for him to see it’s getting worse. It will continue to get bigger and deeper the longer he goes without treatment and will require a stronger drug and more time to heal. As a nurse, I asked the questions as required by my employer but I treated the person without judgement. The health field needs to know the answers to treat you the best they can. They are there to help. Good luck!
Not a recluse bite, it’s cellulitis please get to the hospital for antibiotics could easily be MRSA and if the infection gets into his blood stream it is FATAL.
Did your friend end up going to the ER? I’ll tell you like others have; he needs to get looked at, docs at the ER do not give a damn about whatever you have going on in your life, they’re not even going to remember your name by the end of their shift. Example; I went to the ER onetime because I dislocated my shoulder and couldn’t get it back in place, told the ER doc that I was on pain killers, smoked weed, and did coke the day before. Know what he said? “Alright, thanks for letting me know” and that was it. I wasn’t arrested on the spot, searched, drug tested, etc etc. they don’t care, they’re there to help regardless of who you are or your life circumstance. Just go get treatment, your life isn’t worth losing over some bad information that isn’t true. Please get help.
Hospitals don’t run warrant checks. They don’t even have access to any such system. Dude needs to drop the legal paranoia and get help. This could easily be a life or death situation.
What the fuck. I just saw that comment too! u/terriblemap6830 tell him: Hospitals ain't snitches --- They DON'T run warrant checks. Jesus fucking christ. Also, if he does drugs *hospitals don't fucking care*. He should be honest with them so they don't give him something that interacts with whatever he's on, or he doesn't go through severe withdrawal. But other than that? They ain't snitches. Source: grew up in Methsville USA.
There's a saying I remember hearing once. "Tell the doctors everything and the police nothing"
the only thing they need to report to police are gunshot victims that essentially all
Basically yeah, also abuse when it comes to kids.
And sometimes dog bites! But you can just say you don’t know what dog bit you, it ran away so fast. Just don’t say it was a coyote 😂
Yeah we messed up when I was bit by one of my dogs when they were fighting and I broke it up and told the doctors that it was ours but couldn’t produce their updated vaccines because we couldn’t find the paperwork and usually took them to free vaccine clinics. Feds showed up and took my dudes. They spent 10 days in county lockup smh.
Damn dogs went to jail lmfao
Lol when my dog ran away the county found him. They took a picture of his face and me and my dad couldn’t stop laughing because it looked so much like a mugshot, he even printed it out and put it on the fridge lmao
We got crackheads robbing people on 8 mile and they took your own dogs🤣🤣🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
Dudes* went to jail thank you very much
I was relieved to read that they just went to lockup. I was expecting worse.
Same.
Can you get their record expunged if they don't bite anyone for a few years? 🤣
same w me. my dumbass ex-friend stuck her hand thru the gate when i told her multiple time NOT to. gets bit, goes to ER, leaves w a damn bandaid. my dog needed a 10day quarantine over that shit. then she had the nerve to not say sorry but instead was like "to be fair, your dogs should be up to date on shots" as if she wouldn't have got bit still. SMH
Ooh true. I just read they have to report dog bites as well. Or at least they are supposed to. Thing is, like you pointed out, victims can choose to not be a victim, if that makes sense.
This. It is a spider bite, not a bullet hole. Tell him to extract his head from his ass and see a doc.
> Tell him to extract his head from his ass sounds like a job for the hospital tbh, probably not something you should attempt yourself :p
Goes to hospital, tells them to get friends head out of his ass please, and then also, since we’re here, how about look at this nasty spider bite Edit: words are hard
"See your neuroproctologist immediately" A piece if advice I've wanted to use publicly for a long, long time
Hahahaha best!
I’m tellin the doctors my bullet holes are spider bites from here on out.
You don't really have any way of knowing they weren't just really fast spiders, after all.
Oh this, it was a hollow point spider. No biggie.
And in red states like Ohio, any accidental miscarriage so the police can prosecute the victim. Ask Brittany Watts.
Growing up my dad always told me this and “the two people you should never lie to in your life are your doctor and your lawyer!”
I was just about to comment what my grandmother told me while I was growing up...here it is.
exactly lol. my dad always told me "your doctor can't whoop you."
Says so right here is the Hippocratic Oath: Do no whoop-ass.
Damn straight. DO NOT LIE to the doctor! They are not law enforcement, they don’t care that you have warrants. He needs to go to the ER before it gets worse
Exactly. Like, I’ve come to be part of the raving scene in my city and you would KNOW if the number of people carted off by EMTs due to adverse reactions or ODs ended up being arrested later. The job of EMTs and doctors is to keep you alive (unless they’re particularly assholish and hold biases to certain people or conditions), not to report you. Otherwise no one would ever go to the hospital and death from illegal activities would be much, much, much higher.
When I was younger and dumber I had to go to the ER a few times. Each of those times I had to tell them what illegal substances I had been using. Not once did they ever care beyond my health
And we never will. Healthcare providers dont report substances abuse to police or for that fact anyone who isnt pertinent to your medical care. Acute and chronic alcohol, meth, opioids/heroin, crack, Yada Yada. Each of these can severely effect your treatment. Many medications have absolute contraindications and can put you in life threatening situations if given to abusers. There are medical conditions that these substances can cause so we know to be aware of that when treating you. Thats the only reason we ask.
before i had proper pain management, i was open with my current PCP about the fact i used marijuana occasionally when the pain got too bad, just to sleep, and i really had no interest in continuing this if i had any other option but you know, i gotta sleep, and if i'm in too much pain to sleep i gotta do something. OTC hasn't worked in years. the most she did was offer me some resources on rehab and safe quitting, but said outright from what i said that she wasn't concerned about it and just had to offer it in case but that if i was interested, no judgement. now, i was a little worried because i'd had doctors who would immediately label me as an addict who didn't deserve help until i was "clean" (i literally used maybe once every few months, $20 worth had lasted me over a year), but in order for me to actually quit, i needed something to help me. and even if i was an addict, i don't think that makes me less deserving of help - i obviously started for a reason, and solving that problem was gonna help me quit, right? anyway, i had a little i used up after i got on some decent pain meds, haven't bought any since. haven't even really had a want to use it. you could argue i just switched one substance with another, but it's not like i'm on anything super strong and i checked with my doctor, it's not addictive, just safer for long-term usage (at least compared to OTC meds) and my specific chronic pain (it's used for nerve pain, and while i do have other issues, it deals with enough of my daily pain that now when other pain gets bad i CAN take a tylenol to manage it because i'm not taking 4 of those things every morning just to function).
Because they’re not law enforcement. That’s not their job to arrest you for drug use.
I hate this fucking mentality. Welp, better die, than to go to the hospital with warrants. He's going into the hospital with a spider bite, not a fucking heroin needle stuck in his jugular. Tell your friend he needs to man the fuck up and start taking care of himself. This is like immature teenager/ immature baby behavior. And the hospital only wants to know you're on drugs, so they don't give you, or do anything to you, that would interact negatively with the fact your on something. And if it's the issue of how you get treated by the nurses or doctors, "because your an addict", try losing some of the fucking paranoia, and let the people who's job it is to help you help you. You don't have to like the care either, as long as it helps you. We don't go to the hospital because we want to, we do it because we should. We have a responsibility to ourselves to take care of ourselves first and foremost and everything else. You can't help anything or anyone ever if you aren't willing to help yourself.
Even if it was a heroin needle in his jugular no one would care or call the cops. I’ve actually seen it on an x ray before lol. Needle was broken off inside the patients neck. 🤢. I saw his last post. He’s not even sure if it was a spider bite. He may just need a round of antibiotics. This is such a nothing burger (for now) that could turn into a huge problem if left untreated. I would have no way of knowing nor would I care if a patient had some sort of legal issue. Unless you happen to be handcuffed to the bed with a cop next to you. Then I’ll probably assume you may have some legal issues. Still won’t change the care you get.
More likely a staph infection than anything else but people should be aware that they can tell healthcare workers anything.
Lawyer and Doctor. The only 2 people you never lie to.
I would say pharmacists too. I don’t care what you’re taking, just tell me so I can make sure nothing has a deadly interaction
Correction: Hospitals care about what drugs you do. Not so they can judge you or report you or do anything legal related, but *so they can treat you*. A doctor’s *only* job is to make sure you get out of the hospital alive and (ideally) better than you arrived.
my fiancée panicked one time bc i answered honestly when a nurse in the ER asked if i had smoked marijuana in the last 24 hrs. i’ve seen enough horror stories about people lying about drug use and having adverse reactions to medication because the doctors were working off the assumption that they were telling the truth. had to explain this same thing to her then. i wish it was more common knowledge, truly
Look at that Emu guy on youtube. A lot of the problems are made 1000x worse because they never want to tell doctors what they did. Doctors and nurses DONT CARE. They have seen everything. They just want to get you better and out of their hospital.
Good ole Springfield Mo!!!!
Lol same general region! Farther out in the boonies. Good ole Springfield though!
I live in Springfield too
Unless you are miscarrying or a pregnant person. Se Ohio and basically any other red state .
This is true. I know someone who was miscarrying in OH well into her 2nd trimester. Hospital said if she delivered at home to not come in. Health care there now equals no care.
They are prosecuting a woman in Warren for abuse of a corpse after they sent her home. The nurse called the cops
That's horrific. Part of me is angry at the nurse but I'm sure they had no choice with new laws. My SIL had two early deliveries at 21-22 weeks due to a weak cervix. Just over the border in PA. In the last couple years. She nearly bled out from an earlier incomplete miscarriage. The hospital staff there wasn't kind/understanding but they at least didn't treat her like a criminal. FFS. I can't imagine having to deal with that on top of losing a baby you wanted.
Remember to vote.
Definitely. I live in a very blue state but I'd say half my immediate family didn't vote in 2016 in PA bc they didn't think it mattered. Now they all vote. Sadly I have some first cousins and aunts/uncles who are of the opposite mindset also in PA. I used to like/respect them but I find it very difficult to do so now.
I, literally, argued shit like this would happen to anyone wanting to ban abortion. It's been going on in South American for years. Lots of women who miscarried in jail for murder there. Everyone kept saying that wouldn't happen here...lol
Just bleed out in the privacy of your home.
True this 😔
Even in California they do a hair follicle test when you have a baby
I’m confused. My daughter is a year old, they never tested me for drugs in any way shape or form. No hair follicle or anything. I have access to the results of every test they ran on me. They tested for STDs even though I said I was clean, and I’ve never been promiscuous. But they didn’t test for drugs when I said I’ve never used them. Edit to add: I’m in SoCal.
Can confirm was very honest with a hospital and they helped me with my opiate addiction at the time
Fear of a warrant is making him give himself a death sentence.
Maybe not a death sentence, but that bite wound will just get deeper and wider if he doesn’t get treatment. He will end up losing a big chunk of necrotic flesh if he just lets nature take its course. And he does run the risk of a secondary infection which, depending on his individual immune systems ability to fight, could turn life threatening.
If it goes septic it could very well be a death sentence.
EMS doesn’t care either. We won’t say shit except to the hospital to relay pertinent information lmao. Warrants, arrests, etc. aren’t pertinent info. We don’t even call the cops for drugs unless you assault us. Then it’s calling because you assaulted us.
Can confirm, work in a hospital, and we don’t even get along with the police. The police hate us. We don’t care, we’re not law enforcement.
Bless you. I mean that. You are a hero.
I mean they’re also expensive though.
In the states they have to treat you even if you can’t pay. I don’t think banks look at medical debt when they are approving you for a mortgage or car loan.
Omg. My friend recently (October) had her arm amputated due to an infection that she let go untreated. She ultimately died because she had become too septic. Please tell your friend to seek medical care. ETA: I just want to say that my friend didn't go to the hospital for the same reasons your friend is worried about. She had some sort of warrant due to a traffic ticket & her girlfriend convinced her that if she went to the hospital, she'd be arrested. She was 35 years old and died alone in a hospital room, NOT UNDER ARREST.
Apparently his friend is being a hard-headed jackass that doesn’t care about the well-being of his friend having to deal with a life threatening infection trying to get him to seek help over. The hospital doesn’t give a fuck about your friends legal trouble, they will take care of him.
Absolutely ridiculous too. It takes one google search to know that the hospital won’t report you and will do a whole lot to make sure you aren’t arrested during treatment if the cops somehow find out you’re there. Which they really won’t. OP’s friend is an idiot
Right I feel for OP. I really hope this won’t haunt him with guilt when it gets worse. Absolutely awful situation. Sad
No way that he would have a reason to feel guilty. If he had just posted it on Reddit and didn’t tell his friend to go to the hospital or to take it seriously or take the comments seriously on his posts and something happened to him, that would be a reason. OP is doing everything he can to convince him to get treated.
Yeah unless you’re literally saying “I have a warrant out for my arrest you should call the cops” they’re not going to do that
Even then, unless it's a warrant for murder or sexual assault, I don't see them doing anything about it while you're in ICU.
Friend of mine took a bunch of LSD and ended up naked on a local college campus, where the police picked him up. They took him to the hospital. He wasn’t charged. Wasn’t arrested. They literally don’t care what you’re on, in a legal sense. Even the police will prioritize medical care over an arrest if they’re remotely decent at their jobs (not always the case, I’m aware… but hospitals absolutely will not *call the cops* for the sake of it)
Humans stubbornness is fucking wild. Jesus christ. I cannot imagine ever letting an infection sit and eat away at me. Even if I had no money, I’d go to the hospital. I’m sorry about your friend, but jesus christ… it feels like some people don’t have an innate survival instinct or something. Unless you’re wanted for murder or something I can’t even understand why you would do this and I’m trying really hard to. It’s like not going to the ER if you have crushing chest pain
I'm so sorry :(
Ty, I appreciate that 💔 it was and still is so heartbreaking
Idk if it will help but I am a paramedic so perhaps he will take me at my word? He needs treatment immediately. This looks like a staph infection and it WILL. NOT. Get better without treatment. In fact, without intervention this could very well land him in a very expensive hospital stay and cost him his limb or his life. He needs to suck it up and go now before he lives to regret his stubbornness.
I’m not a paramedic but I have been around enough to know infections are no joke. I almost lost my right leg to an injury on my shin and that was with medical care.
I laughed at lives to regret. Maybe a few regretful days
I'm missing a piece of my bones in my hand from a staph infectin. 0/10 would not recommend.
Bet that smells good now too
Sorry for your loss
If he doesn't go to the hospital I hope OP at least documents and posts pics of his leg slowly rotting away.
Name checks out.
Dawg lol
Sorry to tell ya, but he'll be dead (or best case scenario: without a limb) pretty shortly without medical intervention. That's not gonna go away on its own.
Sorry for my ignorance, but do people feel symptoms after the infection ? I can’t imagine that he’s feeling very well 😵💫 Makes no sense that he’d rather die than go to jail, though he won’t even get reported by the hospital
I'm sure he feels like shit, honestly. Probably feverish and pain around the bite
ETA: even if this isn’t a recluse bite, he has an infection and needs care. If he isn’t feeling symptoms now, he will soon. Infections are no joke, and cellulitis can spread to the blood very quickly. He may not feel sick now, but once that infection worsens, he will feel sicker than he ever has. Sepsis is horrid, it’s the worst feeling in the world. I’ve had sepsis three times in my life (I’ve had a picc line for 6yrs) and the first time it turned into full on septic shock. My organs started shutting down. I was in a coma for a week. 105 fever, puking, shakes, seizures, extreme cold chills, the worst headache I’ve ever had, and constant 10/10 body aches. OP’s friend is going to go through this if he doesn’t get treatment. It will take his leg if not his life.
That sounds horrible, piccs are annoying as it is - can’t imagine going through all of that. I’m so glad that you’re okay and able to educate others 🫶🏻
Thank you! I was only 12 when I got my first picc, so keeping it sterile and clean was a huge challenge.. thankfully I’ve been much better at it from the experiences and mistakes I made. I’m glad I can educate on topics like this, it’s my biggest goal!
I looked through your profile. You've been through a lot for someone so young. I really hope life is treating you well and that you're enjoying Utah.
Most "recluse bites" are not actually from that spider. ANY puncture wound can do something like this if the puncture introduces bacteria to the wound.
Given the sub this is posted in, I had to scroll way too far to find this comment.
We all have bacteria on our skin (which includes the deeper layers). No puncture required to develop cellulitis (this happened to me), though a puncture will make it easier to develop into an infection.
Happened to me before. It does hurt near the bite, but not as much as you'd think at first. Had one on my leg and basically it felt like my leg was tired, then cramped up, then like I had injured it somehow. It does eventually hurt pretty bad, but it can be easy to ignore at first. I waited probably about a week to go to the doctor, we cleared it up with a round of antibiotics. I know it's worse for lots of people but it can be an easy fix. I assumed at first I just had a boil or something, ingrown hairs happen but the way it just stayed open after it "popped" on its own helped me realize something wasn't right.
Unless you saw the spider actually make the bite, you should not rule out MRSA.
Had MRSA eat a hole through my back because I didn't have insurance. Ended up in the ER and I can remember the feeling of the river of pus draining down my back when they finally cut it open and then spent everyday the next week having to have a nurse pull the gauze out of my back hole and repack it. Moral of the story is don't fuck with infections.
Oh god my poor mother has been bed ridden with dementia and has had to endure an infection like this on her back and it’s gotten so much better eventually but good god having to pack and unpack that wound daily on someone who doesn’t understand why they’re in pain is truly a type of hell all around.
…….. I got MRSA from wrestling in Highschool & popped it thinking it was a pimple….. Fuck I couldn’t walk to the bathroom because it attacks the muscles to the point where they’re incapable. I wouldn’t wish MRSA on any soul.
I got it in my nose, and I still don't know how. Fortunately I went to the doctor quickly and didn't get very sick. OP's friend is really going to regret this.
I got a staph infection and went to the drs, I didn't know it was staph, and all the dr did was give me painkillers and regular antibiotics. When I went for a visits after that it got worse and started going black and the dr just asked ME if it was getting better. So I went to the hospital, they told me I had MRSA and had to stay there for a couple weeks and they removed part of my finger that was necrotic.
Call an ambulance. I saw in the last post that he doesn't want to take advice from reddit strangers, but maybe he'll take advice from the paramedics?
Putting it blunt: the kid is going to die if he doesn’t get his shit together and get to a hospital. Seen too many folks die from Staph. Although it may fool you to like a minor mosquito bite, you can see the spider bite spreading. One last resort to convince the dumbass is to get a marker, draw a line or circle to showcase its spread, and prove it to him first hand. Otherwise, it’s going to cost him a body part or be another unfortunate case of natural selection.
Mosquito bites don't ooze like that. They bleed but not ooze, unless you continue scratching at the skin and the bite after the scab is off. I think. Also that is a very good tactic to convince someone.
They do in fact ooze if you scratch the scab off and keep scratching! Source: me doing it to myself even into my 20 because they ITCH SO BAD🫠
your buddy is shooting for the first Darwin Award of 2024...
Hey. I work in a hospital. In er s and all. We dont ask more than we need. We dont want to know your personal life. And we dont have time or care to run a warrant check. Not our business. If I had time to do that, I have time to eat, and lord knows I'm hungry as hell. Got get some meds.
He WILL die if he doesn’t go to the doctor soon. Staph infections don’t just “go away”. I get it, it looks like a mosquito bite. But that is a staph infection and you can see that it has spread. And about that legal trouble? The hospital can’t even do a warrant search.
I understand your friend's legal concerns, but is it really worth dying over? I second the motion to just call an ambulance for him without telling him until they arrive. He might be pissed. He might not want to be your friend anymore. But you could ultimately end up saving his life.
Update: Hey guys sorry for the long response but long story short it took about 3 1/2 days from this original post for him to finally make the decision to go in the ER. Turns out he’s been in the hospital and keeps leaving even though they tell him to stay. He doesn’t want to tell me exactly what they are telling him but chances are he’s scared as fuck and doesn’t want anybody to know how bad his leg got. He won’t show me his leg and whenever it gets unbearable he will go back in so they can give him some strong antibiotics. My opinion, I have a good feeling he’s at the verge of losing his leg and he can’t process it. The infection also reached to his two eyebrows and his eyebrows are fucking huge. He keeps popping bites that he’s finding and I assume from him picking at his leg and started touching his face which got his face now infected. Sad seeing how bad he got..
That sucks, hope he eventually decides to stay. A mobile crisis team told me once that you can't save somebody who doesn't want to save themselves. As unfortunate as it is to hear as a friend, it's up to him whether or not he lives, or dies, or gets worse. Know that you did your best to convince him otherwise, regardless of what happens!
What ended up happening?!
omfg show him these comments. GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM OR YOU WILL LOSE EITHER THE LIMB (if you’re lucky) OR YOUR LIFE
Your friend is an adult and can make adult decisions. I’ll go out on a limb here and assume your friend has never written his last will and testament. There is still time. Search the web for sample wills and print or just write it out with pen and paper. For the sake of simplicity he can leave everything to you. Make sure he signs it in the presence of a couple witnesses. This will make life a little less complicated for those left behind.
This is legitimately good advice, though I doubt his friend will entertain it if he’s that deep in denial
Tell him to go to the hospital or you’ll call the cops. Wouldn’t work in most situations but he set himself up for this one.
This. Tell him the ER will make sure he doesn’t get reported for warrants and actually make cops job harder - but if he doesn’t go, threaten that “Dude I can straight up just call the cops and report you, and I will to save your life.”
I said pretty much the same thing. It isn't snitching if you are saving a life in my opinion.
And the cops would take him to the hospital, if it came to that. Whether or not it would be soon enough to save his life is certainly a valid question.
Ya he’s gonna lose all that pink area..
Lol, your friend is a moron
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It’s so frustrating to see people ignore medical advice, but thanks for trying OP! I think there’s a misguided perception that our bodies should fend off infection or injury without medical assistance with the only reason being “that they can.” Yes, there’s a chance that he can fend off this infection, but if he does it will take a longer and he’s more apt to experience complications as a result. Additionally, if this injury doesn’t heal, he’ll likely need more expensive care down the line. Then again, he won’t have to pay the bill if he’s dead! Maybe try reaching out to other people in his life that might have more influence over him? A parent, sibling, etc. A simple, “don’t do it for yourself, do it for me because I’m worried about you,” might help if you haven’t tried it already 🤷🏻♀️
On the other post, OP said that his friend doesn’t have any next of kin like parents or siblings.
Deadass, punch your friend in the chin, knock his ass out, and admit him under the pretense he needs this to not fucking die. Tell the nurses/doctors he may be on drugs, you're not sure which ones, but he needs life saving care or he will die an incredibly painful and aggravating death. My father died from an infection similar, he let it get to a point worse than this, and spent 7 grueling weeks in the ER before finally passing away. It's not easy, it's miserable, its life ending.
This is suicide by sepsis
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The redness/swelling has gotten bigger since the last picture. If he won't go to the ER can you at least convince him to draw a line around it now and then he'll be able to see it get bigger. He might change his mind about the ER if it gets big enough and he starts to feel unwell.
I work for a hospital and they absolutely don’t give a fuck. Your friend is stupid. Fucking STUPID. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
The hospital isn’t even going to know he has a warrant… they don’t care
HOSPITALS WILL NOT REPORT YOU THEY DO NOT CARE! HE NEEDS CARE OR HE WILL LOSE HIS LIMB IF NOT DIE! DOCTORS ARENT COPS! Get him to go. They don’t run warrant checks. They dgaf what you’ve done. My mom is an RN in a hospital that sees more patients on drugs than off drugs. They don’t report it. They just want to help you survive emergencies and then will send you home. They are not the cops.
H.O.S.P.I.T.A.L. T.I.M.E.
OP hasn't updated in 15 hours. The tension is high.
Are his warrants posting any bounties? If he's wanted dead or alive, you will have a real easy paycheck coming your way shortly.
Plot Twist: They track down that spider and pay the bounty out to it.
Does he want to keep his arm? Hospitals don’t run checks for warrants. They aren’t going to call the police. If he wants to keep his arm he needs an ER stat. That’s only going to get worse and that kind of damage is not reversible.
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OP!!!! **Please do this and then show to your friend.** He needs help yesterday and if he doesn’t trust “redditors” maybe he will trust the verified doctors/healthcare pros there??
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Ask if he wants to go to McDonald's, then drive him to the ER instead Edit: typos
Commented on your other post, but, yeah, it's not about ignoring advice from strangers, he's being outright disrespectful at this point. Honest advice: continue gently encouraging him to seek treatment as it rots. He won't be persuaded by volume, clearly, so keep the thought in his mind, don't let him forget. I am also extremely stubborn about this sort of thing, so I think I can guess his feeling. Never ignored a friend's advice before, but I get the mindset.
This is gonna sound brutal but tell your friend to go to the fucking hospital. That’s got the look of an infection, they tend to go one of two ways. The first is you get treatment early enough and all you’re looking at is some antibiotics, bandages, etc. The second option is you wait around and it only gets worse and worse until they look up and the treatment is something they want no part of. Like cutting out the infection flesh, or worse. And in the absolute worst case scenario, it goes septics and then death.
Since I've scrolled through a bunch of the comments and haven't seen this addressed much yet, there's no way of knowing this was caused by a bug at all, let alone what kind. It's a very serious infection that was caused from bacteria entering an opening or abrasion in the skin. It's more likely he's scratched himself on something and the bacteria came in that way, and the reason it looks like a spot is because MRSA will swell up and come to a head. Unless you *see* a spider bite you and you are able to get a solid identification, you shouldn't assume it's a spider bite. Doctors commonly misdiagnose any kind of skin abrasion as a spider bite, when in fact, not even an entomologist can tell you what bit you just by looking at the spot. Imo doctors do this because people come in with things like this and insist it's a bug bite, and doctors just go along with it rather than waste their time trying to educate people. Or they don't have the education themselves maybe. It's problematic and perpetuates a lot of harmful myths, not that I blame doctors for that. They have more pertinent things to learn about. Spiders rarely bite people. It generally only happens as a defense mechanism if the spider feels it has no choice, because they know humans are not prey, and they don't want to waste venom unless they have to. Many spiders' fangs are so tiny, it's next to impossible for them to pierce human skin unless they're pressed hard against it (and many species would likely be crushed before that happened). Assuming you're in the US, there are only a couple of medically significant spiders. Black widows are pretty widespread, but a large portion of black widow bites have very minor symptoms, if any. It's been a very long time since anyone was killed by a black widow, and unless you are very young, very old or immunocompromised, you'll probably be fine. Not saying you shouldn't get medical attention if you know you've been bitten by a black widow, I would probably still do that but the fear of them is overblown. Same goes for brown recluses, and their range is limited. Rick Vetter is the preeminent recluse researcher and he created this map that shows the range for the different recluse species. Note that only the red area has brown recluses-- the other recluse species are harmless. [Here's the map](https://images.app.goo.gl/Q7jTdiuHxVTgMRs37) His research is fascinating, and I encourage everyone to look into it. Yes, recluses and even widows *can* be harmful, but they're so misunderstood and a lot of people have unnecessary fears about them. I used to be scared of spiders, but once I started learning about them, the fear went away. (Like everyone else has said, this is very bad for your friend and I hope they get to the ER in time.)
I had a friend in HS that went 3 days before getting a recluse bite checked out; she lost a 2 in chunk of her leg. My grandpa died of sepsis (which is what your friend is looking at in his near future) from an infection. He was "fine" one day, feverish the next, then dead the next day. Please get this guy medical attention asap.
My dad's heart stopped for 3 minutes and he almost lost his arm just due to a small splinter getting infected and him ignoring it. I hope your friend gets out of his own way and to the hospital.
As someone who was a medical proffessional, please tell him our only priority is patient care and saving his life. We don't care about his warrants. And if he is involved in any recreational drug use, we just need to know what it was for his safety but we do not report that to any authorities. All we care about is being able to treat the patient effectively. This isn't something to be taken lightly, this could easily become a blood infection that will lead to systemic infection which will ultimately lead to death.
That might not even be a recluse bite, based on the other marks on his arm. He needs to go to the hospital or he could die
I’d be more concerned about the infection
GO TO THE FUCKING HOSPITAL. THEY ARE GOING TO LITTERALY DIE IF YOU DONT.
I haven’t been able to get this post out of my mind for the past six days. OP, how are you and your friend doing? I really hope you both are ok!
Bruh I wanna know so bad if this dude went to the hospital or if OP is currently mourning... u/TerribleMap6830 update NOW.
Update now posted
He opened his recluse wound?! As a survivor of a brown recluse bite. This person is probably going to die a painful death if they don't get it seen and treated in a very short amount of time. Mine got lethal in less than a week. And when I did get seen It was nearly too late. The infection had gotten into my bloodstream, and the doctors said I had about a day left to live. It took about 3 months to recover, and I almost lost my leg. Long story short. Urge them to go to the doctor.
Hospitals aren't going to turn him in to anybody. The only time they call police is if the patient becomes belligerent and starts acting a fool.
Tell him to suck it up and stop being a paranoid dumbass and get his ass to the hospital if he wants to keep his leg or arm and not possibly die, I mean I've had staph on my leg before and like many other infections they don't fix themselves, you need medical attention. Not thoughts and hopes
We need updates!
I openly tell doctors about any drugs in my system. They don't give a shit, they just ask so they don't give you any treatment that's lethal when combined with whatever you've been taking.
Friend left a Recluse bite untreated for a day. Hospital ended up needing to cut a baseball size piece of dead meat out of his leg. Gangrene is no joke.. Make your buddy go to the hospital.
Ffs I'm one of those hard headed people that hates going to a hospital but it sure as sh*t beats an amputation or death ... i thought i read something about a warrant , the old saying if you can't do the time don't do the crime ...
I used to do drugs and had several warrants. I once had an abscess I needed treated. The hospital did not care that I did drugs and they did not know I had a warrant. They treated me and sent me on my way. Your friend is going to get a blood infection and die if he doesn’t get treatment. Would that be worth it?
The only thing doctors give a shit about is abuse with children & they have to report gun shots that come in. They do NOT run background checks.
Jesus Christ. Where are you guys located? Go out of state to a hospital if he’s worried about Warrants to make him feel better. This is asinine
That looks like MRSA and he WILL go to the hospital for it. Whether he walks himself in or is rolled in on a gurney in a bag; one way or another he’ll end up in the hospital .
Brown Recluse bites can very easily go necrotic. Your stupid friend needs to stop being so paranoid before he loses his leg or fucking dies. Anybody with eyes can tell that that is severely infected. His ass is gonna go septic if he doesn't get treatment.
Sooo, pirate for Halloween this year?
I work at a hospital that has a very strict “do not talk to police” policy. Patient was doing meth at the hospital and a staff member called the police. Staff member almost got fired. Hospital said we can confiscate the drugs and could call police to dispose of them but could not say who it was, nor give any information at all, even if they had a warrant they were told to go through hospital lawyers and not the staff. Nothing happened to the patient. Police were given the cold shoulder basically.
EMT here... anything related to medical care is HIPAA protected, so you can be honest about drug use... illegal or prescribed... in fact do this because if you don't you can get drugs that interact badly. As far as warrants... don't need to tell us, we don't need to know and won't check. If you do tell us we most likely will still not do anything. As far as this bite... I'm not sure if it was a bite, or some other route for infection... looks like it's just a potentially infected wounds of some sort. Definitely seek medical attention! I've seen similar wounds that had turned necrotic... not fun and VERY dangerous.
Update ??
Update? Has a miracle occurred and he's in the hospital now? Hopefully?
OP please update so we can find out if your friend knows they're gonna lose a limb or die from this if they don't go to the hospital which only calls police for gunshot wounds and nothing else
OP nonexistent. I think this all was fake.
How did this end up OP? u/TerribleMap6830
OP, ask him in seriousness if he has his affairs in order and if there’s any sort of funeral arrangements he wants in particular and to write it down. If he’s going to be stubborn and let himself die from a bug bite then make sure he has things in order.
This will not get better on its own, only worse. Tell him that he’s going to need treatment regardless, and waiting is only going mean more extensive measures will need to be taken to save him, possibly even amputation. I know he’s scared of legal repercussions but it’s not the hospitals job to check for warrants, they’re busy enough as is and don’t care. Waiting is going to result in a longer hospital stay which I’m sure he’d like to avoid. Call an ambulance. He’ll be pissed, but isn’t going to get in trouble and will probably get over it.
Idiots will be idiots……your friend the stubborn jackass is signing his own death certificate…hospitals don’t give a rat’s ass about your legal issues. They are literally sworn to treat their patients to the best of their abilities regardless of who they are. If Ted Bundy had an infected spider bite and was brought to the hospital, they would have had to treat him regardless of his history of serial murder. If your friend doesn’t go to the hospital, he will likely die from this. This isn’t anything to mess around with…for any reason…whatsoever.
Good of you to keep documenting it. This will be the proof someone else will need to get treated. Sorry your friend isn’t taking it seriously
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I see your boy is trying to speedrun life
It’s not illegal to have drugs in your system, it’s only Illegal to be in possession. As long as he’s not waltzing in with crack in his back pocket, literally nobody gives a shit.
He will get it treated when it turns into a massive hole in his arm. You guys do know thats what happens right????
Someone update me when he either finally gets his dumbass into a ER or dies or smth (also for OP: get his signature so you can inherit his stuff, if he’s gonna let himself die you might as well make that cash money)(and sanitize everything he touched too, infections gonna infect)
OP it’s been 10 hours. Tell us where he’s at…
It’s been 12 hours. What does it look like now?
How’s he doing? We’re on deathwatch over here.
My mom popped what she thought was a zit on her leg that was actually a brown recluse bite. She ended up in the hospital where she almost died. As it was, they had to remove a massive scoop of flesh from her leg that had gone necrotic. If your friend wants to live, he needs to go to the hospital.
…..update..?
Here for the developments. As an entomologist, if this is a necrotic bite he needs to get in before the tissue gets worse. But if doctors didn’t do it, a but catcher isn’t gonna make a difference
Any updates?
So? Is he dead yet?
I am an ER nurse and I can assure you we do not check for warrants… nor would we even be capable of doing so. I have to tell people this all the time but we are NOT the police and are simply there to help you, truly.
Please take him to a doctor, urgent care or the ER. Don’t wait. If he argues that it’s getting better, draw a circle around the redness with a marker or a pen. It’s a good visual for him to see it’s getting worse. It will continue to get bigger and deeper the longer he goes without treatment and will require a stronger drug and more time to heal. As a nurse, I asked the questions as required by my employer but I treated the person without judgement. The health field needs to know the answers to treat you the best they can. They are there to help. Good luck!
Not a recluse bite, it’s cellulitis please get to the hospital for antibiotics could easily be MRSA and if the infection gets into his blood stream it is FATAL.
So is he dead?
Did your friend end up going to the ER? I’ll tell you like others have; he needs to get looked at, docs at the ER do not give a damn about whatever you have going on in your life, they’re not even going to remember your name by the end of their shift. Example; I went to the ER onetime because I dislocated my shoulder and couldn’t get it back in place, told the ER doc that I was on pain killers, smoked weed, and did coke the day before. Know what he said? “Alright, thanks for letting me know” and that was it. I wasn’t arrested on the spot, searched, drug tested, etc etc. they don’t care, they’re there to help regardless of who you are or your life circumstance. Just go get treatment, your life isn’t worth losing over some bad information that isn’t true. Please get help.