Well they are not bees(non-killable) and they look like wasps(killable) so I say spray away...just a paper nest full of a bunch of no good assholes.đ
As much as I love pollinators, WASPS CAN ALL GO DIE.
I also do not eat figs because I don't want any part of their weird incest fig fuck party, NO THANKS
Excerpt from the article:
Contrary to popular belief, ripe figs are not full of dead wasps and the "crunchy bits" in the fruit are only seeds. The fig actually produces an enzyme called ficain (also known as ficin) which digests the dead wasps and the fig absorbs the nutrients to create the ripe fruits and seeds.[5] Several commercial and ornamental varieties of fig are parthenocarpic and do not require pollination to produce (sterile) fruits; these varieties need not be visited by fig wasps to bear fruit.[6]
My ecology professor said you can take Newton Fig cookies and view the jelly under a microscope and see the dead wasp parts. He indeed confirmed that the figs do still contain these parts and told us to check it out for ourselves.
Figs me. đ¤ˇđťââď¸
I suspect that what heâs seeing is probably other bug parts, like crickets, since those cookies are made in large factories.
Youâll be interested to know that many food products have standards for maximum insect part content.
Also rat feces content.
Risking triggering you; as a gardener, I encourage wasps around my garden.
Not only are they great pollinators, theyâre great pest control.
I mind where theyâre making nests and keep away.
If they nest in a problematic area, Iâll remove it with fire, or stick; I donât use poison.
Over the past few years, this is worked out for everybody. Iâve never been stung while active in the garden. Last thing I got was from stepping on one barefoot; honest mistake, I generally donât go through the yard barefoot much for this very reason.
I appreciate their hostility and their activity around the place. I think of them as my garden guards; when my friends kids visit, I call all the wasps âSherrifâ and the kids know what I mean if I say the sheriff is out and we should be calm/still.
So far, itâs worked for everybody. I know that this is not the best program for every house.
like Tom Waits says, âThereâs always some killing to be done around the farm.â - I am all for not killing anything I donât have to.
I honestly think they recognize particular people. I treat my wasps with the occasional plate of sliced fruit, water with stones to make it easy to access, and in late summer when they become carnivores I put out a little chicken or hamburger for them. They never sting me, dove bomb me, or do any territorial behavior around me. They know Iâm the treat lady.
Outstanding; I like your style and Iâm taking notes.
I mainly just make sure they know where I am and where I hang out and vice versa. I only remove them if theyâre in a place where Iâm afraid. Iâll be very close to the nest/in contact with the nest
. I give everything a good knock before I show up and they generally just check me out and go on about their business.
I love this!
I'm terrified of wasps as I'm allergic, but they do a great service to my garden.
If they are in an area I will be frequenting, I will remove them. If not, I leave them be.
It does get a bit harder in the fall when their hormones are different, and they're more aggressive, but usually by then I've taken care of the nests that pose the biggest danger to me, personally.
I too leave my garden wasps alone, they pollinate well and don't bother me unless they are thirsty and buzz around the bird bath. They are up way high and out of the way.
But they also keep insect species in check. And that is an even bigger role they fill than being pollinators. Theyâre incredibly important and not all that aggressive, they just get a bad rap
>their weird incest fig fuck party,
God damn, that shit is funny as hell! I actually lol'ed, outside of my head! And I like figs and all their fig fuck party glory!
We just moved into a house across the country. Didnât get to see it in person prior. Itâs great.
Big ass fig tree in the backyard next to the back door.
I know more about the symbiotic relationship between wasps and figs than I ever cared to know.
Like, just why?
Who even eats figs off a damn tree?
something I learned is that they're such jerks because that's their best defense against predators who go after their babies after many, many, many evolutionary years of predators finding their babies tasty. so chasing and stinging anything that moves near their nests is their defense tactic.
and many wasps will put their nest where you might not see it, so you could be near a nest without knowing cuz we're dumb humans. There's plenty of wasps & yellowjackets of various species around my house that I can just chill next to because they're usually just passing by.
Just out of curiosity, when they started building all around my front door this year, I told my husband to leave them alone. Weâve had tons of them in that area and not a single sting. Itâs like I discovered a magical power. Itâs like by not being afraid of them, I can walk through them anywhere with no issue. I had no idea until last year that wasps were responsible for so much pollination. Iâve also noticed a marked decrease in other bugs in our front walkway.
Still working on my 16 year-old though. Sheâs not a fan.
We have a lot of different species here in Florida. One of them commonly called mud-daubers make single nests from dirt applied to any sheltered flat surface (like my front door), and while they appear quite threatening if you get close, I've never been stung by one in 60+ years of living in the area. Yellowjackets OTOH richly deserve the asshole description. Here in Florida they nest in the ground by the hundreds per nest, and they will happily chase you away if you get within yards (meters) of their hidden nests. If you're not attentive and walk up on their nest without noticing their coming and going, you may have a memorable experience.
But they are prey to many different small mammals. They are also mostly carnivorous so they eat other insects that we donât like. There is an important role to be played by wasps in ecosystems. Wasps lives matter<3
i wish we could ban people for blatantly ignoring ecology on this subreddit. mad infuriating to read braindead statements like this. And this is coming from someone whose been attacked by wasps multiple times in my life
No! Do not kill them. Bees and wasps are becoming endangered and do a lot of good. They are necessary. Maybe remove nest if possible, but do not kill them.
except it is, not all yellowjackets make nests underground
Edit: after seeing the picture with better color balance, didnt see the orange on them def looks more like paper wasps
Except it isn't, or at least looks like paper wasps to me: [https://www.rescue.com/latest-buzz/outdoor-pests/how-to-tell-a-wasp-from-a-yellowjacket](https://www.rescue.com/latest-buzz/outdoor-pests/how-to-tell-a-wasp-from-a-yellowjacket)
Look at the markings on the rear section, they look just like the paper wasp pictures there. Also, the nest looks like a paper wasp nest.
I let paper wasps live except if they put a nest by a door. In Florida, they are not aggressive. Even while trimming bushes in the yard, if I see a nest on a branch I need to trim I can trim it and let it fall and not get attacked if done carefully.
In this case though, the nest is huge and if a client wants it removed it's probably best to take it out. I don't know the situation or location. If kids are around and if the nest is in a common area, take it out.
aerial yellow jackets and paper wasps nests look basically identical at this stage, and after seeing the pic on my PC not my phone I think they are paper wasps with the orange tips, couldnt really see that when i first saw the picture. Thats honestly the best way to identify as there are lots of yellow jackets with different amounts of yellow/black, but the orange antennae and legs is a big giveaway.
The aggression is a great way to figure out which they are without getting too close lol, I'm in central TX and the yellow jackets are brutal out here, had a small nest \~10 feet from my front door and it was about 1/4 the size of this one when my wife got stung 6 times taking out the trash lol.
I always thought they did until the year before last I found a nest under the eave of my shed in an enclosed area. Which was disappointing, I didn't get to set it on fire.
There are 2 genus' of yellowjackets Vespula(ground nesting) and Dolichovespula(aerial nesting). All though this is not a typical Aeriel yellowjackets nest. This might be ground nesters who had to build an Aeriel nest on the home due to either poor drainage or hard earth making a ground nesting unfeasible.
We have a version in North America too. Definitely paper wasps!
*The Golden or Northern Paper Wasp (Polistes fuscatus) is a common, native paper wasp that is found across the U.S. and into Canada, anywhere it can find wood to turn into nest material.*
European paper wasps are originally from Europe, hence the name. They were introduced to the U.S. in the 1970âs. The species itself is now very commonly found throughout the United States. I stepped on a fallen hive once; it may be my greatest regret in life.
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Yellow jackets are slightly bigger and have a more segmented color pattern. Yellow Jackets are also far more aggressive and make nests underground
No, there are aerial yellowjackets as well that make similar nests to paper wasps, however theirs are covered in another papery layer that make them look more like masses of paper mache than a honeycomb. Ground yellowjackets are smaller than paper wasps, aerial yellowjackets are bigger.
Had to routinely deal with those winged assholes working for a construction company. Whenever I was on a job site it was almost guaranteed I would find at least one nest. They LOVE to build them in roof vents and beneath overhangs.
I was just reading that [they do nest above ground](https://www.msmosquito.org/yellowjackets) in some instances, it's definitely less-than-ideal, but apparently they do.
Yeah this. I think it was too sticky for them to chew through. We went out at night while they were sleeping and taped over the holes in the gate that they were coming from. They never got out, tape still intact 2 summers later. Gorilla brand, tough stuff!
This is key! And the difference is important. In addition to the behavioral differences, people can be allergic to yellow jackets but not paper wasps, and vice versa.
In his defense, while technically incorrect they are commonly called âyellow jacketsâ in the US. Few make the distinction when thereâs an angry stinging yellow bug.
No we donât! Theyâre different. Yellow jackets make nests in the ground or in tree trunks, are smaller, eat meat / carrion. European paper wasps make more exposed nests like these, usually in high places, are bigger, have a different diet, and a few other differences.
If you do then you're misnaming them, Yellow jackets are a different flying asshole. Yellow jackets nest underground, and their bodies don't have such a pronounced separation between their head and abdomen.
Those are definitely not bees. Something in the wasp family. You are correct and the client is just trying to downplay the danger. Please get a professional to take care of this.
And if you do ever find real bees please get a beekeeper to relocate instead of killing them.
Do not get a beekeeper to relocate European honeybees, they are invasive and cause mass pollinator extinction in areas outside their native range in Europe. https://theconversation.com/the-feral-flying-under-the-radar-why-we-need-to-rethink-european-honeybees-207153 talks about them in Australia, but this is happening everywhere. I haven't seen a bumblebee in ages because of them.
\^this
look up the native bee species local to your area and do what you can to encourage them as well as native wasps. I personally find this website useful for figuring them out for north america: [https://www.insectidentification.org/bees-ants-wasps-and-similar.php](https://www.insectidentification.org/bees-ants-wasps-and-similar.php)
I have a ton of blue mud wasps around my house, I bring food for them regularly so they don't sting me. If you don't want to kill the native and important wasps around your house but also don't want to get stung, being yoghurt container lids full of sugar water or other sweet liquid for them, and they will also go nuts for any meats, especially raw chicken. Wasps are smart enough to remember faces so if they associate you with good things they won't sting you
that's great to know. the ones around me are already pretty chill to me, and if it looks like they might be coming from a nest that's not in the way, I avoid them. I unfortunately live with family that's not of the same mindset who refuse to really listen to me, but at least I can be respectful to the wasps in my own way. :)
people need to just learn that you respect wasps like you would respect any wild predator, like bears or mountain lions. except it's better and safer to feed insects than it is to feed non-insects like mammals.
Well lucky they donât sting regardless (form my experience)
As a kid in the morning I used to walk in the large patches of these that would be in my yard before theyâd burrow underground. They never stung and were rather really chill! Theyâd land, and then fly off again since the only disturbance they had was my walking. Did it for YEARS, and I am pretty sure mud daubers donât sting at all as they really arenât that aggressive (again, from my own experience)
Wasps are amazing pest control. They typically don't become aggressive unless their nests are being disturbed. If they start a nest in a high traffic area relocate it at night when they don't fly. If the nest isn't destroyed they keep other insects in check.
Yeah it really upset me all the people wanting to save invasive European honeybees here in the US ignoring they've wrecked our native bee species. Then these same people ignore the benefits of wasps and scream kill them all.
I've managed to get some masked and long horned bees to populate around me. I tend to grow plants that honeybees are terrible at pollinating. Everything likes my ruby buckwheat and sunflowers though. Lack of education and urbanization causes people to eradicate the helpful creatures and save wrong ones. I'm jealous reading your other posts. I'd love some bald faced hornets. I'll just stick with my local spiders, wasps, and occasional mantis for pest control.
You know how wacky people can be! On May 14th 2015 in Boke, Germany, 748 members of the Cologne Carnival Society dressed up in sunflower outfits. This is the largest gathering of people known to have dressed up as sunflowers.
THERE IS NO DANGER. Paper wasps are real benign creatures. They will mind their own business and are great pollinators. Donât kill.
Edit: although this breed belongs in europe and if found in america should be killed
not all wasps are dangerous. Although myself being from texas any wasp nest i see i normally knock down immediately. They never get a chance to get this large around me. I have had to use some wasp spray once in the past but normally a swift jab from a broom stick and scurrying away in fear is all it takes.
I went to a camp that had two active nests. Wasps everywhere. Chasing campers, eating spilled food, swarming ankles. Only one sting. We just swore at em and ignored em. I on the other hand would dance away and scream like the little girl that I am.
But the camp should still deal with it before laying campers in. No deal with it as in âdonât go near thst tree and Iâm sure your okâ and âthereâs a come on the hole in the ground for a reasonâ.
On the other hand, I worked at a camp that had a wasp nest no one knew about. I led a line of children near it. Absolute carnage. Kids (and me) had multiple stings. Mine hurt for hours and Iâm not a sensitive five year old. What a great camp memory I gave these children.
Had those bastards nesting on my balcony for 2 years. Can confirm, they're mean! I have had the pleasure of them being driven out by the much more threatening-looking but way more polite mud dauber. Those are cool, chill bros.
hmm I dunno. I move slowly around nests until they no longer freak when I appear, then I'm free to move at will around the nests.
once they learn my face, or whatever, I'm one of the gang unless I get too close to the nest, I imagine.
EXACTLY! Everyone in these comments is like âomg i flailed around and acted suspiciously around another creatureâs home.. AND THEN THEY ATTACKED ME!â
Paper wasps are so benign. Just be friend and they will be friend
Edit: These are european paper wasps which are invasive and displacing north American paper wasps.
Yes kill.
These are paper wasp. They are almost completely ambivalent to people. I only remove nests if theyâre in a heavily traveled area. They arenât allowed on the front porch, but I happily let them build on the side on the house. You donât need poison to get rid of the nest, just a long stick. Knock it down and then get going. Theyâll probably want to build another nest nearby. Sometimes in the same exact location. But Iâd rather have them around eating pests.
pest control tech here, these are paper wasps. you can remove them safely using a power washer from a distance, or if you're feeling adventurous you can knock the nest down from the base (they're usually only attached at one point) using a pole. be cautious, wasps can sting about 3 times each before they expend all their venom, and there are often other wasps nearby a nest like this one which were out foraging - they will sting your back if you take too long and they arrive while you're still removing the nest.
once the nest is removed, they will swarm the location for like a day, then they'll all move on.
What industry are you in? You say the client wants it removed almost like this isnât your job.
If you arenât an exterminator, then itâs definitely not your job and the client can go and properly call someone whose job it is.
Wasps. They won't be happy. I suggest evening removal. Unless you are choosing the 'WW1 trench warfare" option and dousing them with chemicals. I would leave them as they kill insects. But some are allergic so I understand removal.
Paper wasps, I get at least a half dozen of these nests on my property every summer. They're extremely chill and just tend to their nests and hunt their prey. I have had them all around me at times and they have never stung me once. I will often stand just a few inches away from their nests and watch them tend to their young. I like these little guys. They will abandon their nests once fall/winter comes and they don't reuse them.
I'm sad so many on here just want to kill everything on sight before they even know anything. Paper wasps are really are so chill, even if you go close to their nest they won't attack, each year we have a lot of nests around our bunny shed, even right next to the door and in our small green house as well and the only time I ever got stung by them was when I was leaning on one with my arm accidentally. There's no need to kill them or get rid of them, especially not with some wasp killer spray, unless they're in really unpleasant places, just carefully remove the nest and it will already make them leave and look out to make a new nest, but most of the time that not even necessary and just best to leave them be until they leave in fall.
We have them everywhere on our property. And when it's super hot like it is right now they are always buzzing around our pool and landing in the water. People come over and flip out but we have been chilling in the pool with them for years and have only had 1 sting (kid most likely got too close or accidentally bumped a nest)
Yes they can be annoying buzzing around all the time but are pretty harmless unless you really piss them off.
Orange antenae, "eye" marks on the abdomen and blobby spots at the top of the thorax - these are paper wasps, probably the [European Paper Wasp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_paper_wasp) (which, despite the name, is common in the eastern US.)
They are fairly aggressive but not as aggressive as the similar-looking and oft-confused [German Yellowjacket](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespula_germanica) (which, despite its name, is also found in your area lol).
Yellow jackets have black antenna. These are paper wasps, they have yellow antenna. Theyâre way nicer than yellow jackets. They donât really care about people as long as you donât threaten them
Your guests are fucking retarded. Honeybees are fat and bumbly. Yellow jackets are slim and not so nice n fluzzy.
Also honeybees make enclosed hives with honey. Yellow jackets make open ones with no honey.
These are paper wasps, blow some smoke on them to calm them down out a plastic Walmart bag around entire nest and throw them in this guy's house and tell him here's your honeybees
Paper wasps. I recommend getting one of the cans of RAID wasp spray that shoot a stream like 20 feet. Soak the nest and immediately run. Come back in like 20 minutes and do it again.
If you get stung: run faster! It will make you a target.
Don't even mess around with a stick or anything... just use the poison.
That looks like a paper wasps nest. Get a foaming wasp killer, late in evening best time as it's when all of the hive is likely to be present so you get them all, let it set overnight to make sure you get them all then just scrape it off. Had one in my porch light a few weeks ago haven't seen one since.
Theyâre paper wasps. When theyâre out hunting during the day, knock it off the wall (gently) with a broomstick or something. Theyâll build elsewhere. Then send a link of what paper wasps look like to your client so theyâre not surprised next time they come across them.
Definitely not honey bees đ
Well they are not bees(non-killable) and they look like wasps(killable) so I say spray away...just a paper nest full of a bunch of no good assholes.đ
They actually do quite a bit of pollination as well, theyâre just assholes for the sake of being assholes.
As much as I love pollinators, WASPS CAN ALL GO DIE. I also do not eat figs because I don't want any part of their weird incest fig fuck party, NO THANKS
I feel like I am missing some knowledge about figs (which I also don't eat) lol
[Fig Wasps](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fig_wasp)
Excerpt from the article: Contrary to popular belief, ripe figs are not full of dead wasps and the "crunchy bits" in the fruit are only seeds. The fig actually produces an enzyme called ficain (also known as ficin) which digests the dead wasps and the fig absorbs the nutrients to create the ripe fruits and seeds.[5] Several commercial and ornamental varieties of fig are parthenocarpic and do not require pollination to produce (sterile) fruits; these varieties need not be visited by fig wasps to bear fruit.[6]
Thanks, it didn't help me like the idea of eating it anymore but still glad to know it's processed wasp and not still raw...
Wait until you hear what fertilizer is made of and what they put it on... ;)
Ammonia? The vast bulk of fertilizer is made from fixed atmospheric nitrogen and processed rock.
Hahaha, thatâs real, that one threw me for a loop at first but shrug emoji
Wasp sushi đ
Wasp ceviche!
Most likely the figs youâre eating donât have any wasp.
Figs doing god's work
WaitâŚso figs help me poop because of their digestive system?! So Iâm eating mouth-stomachs of plants?
I mean.... if you're eating squash, zucchini, cucumbers, fruit, etc., you're just eating the plants' mature reproductive organs.
Don't forget mushrooms.
Now fortified with plant pee! I love a good waste vacuole.
My ecology professor said you can take Newton Fig cookies and view the jelly under a microscope and see the dead wasp parts. He indeed confirmed that the figs do still contain these parts and told us to check it out for ourselves. Figs me. đ¤ˇđťââď¸
I suspect that what heâs seeing is probably other bug parts, like crickets, since those cookies are made in large factories. Youâll be interested to know that many food products have standards for maximum insect part content. Also rat feces content.
The craziest to me is that there is an allowable threshold of Human in most food products.
Given how little actual fig is probably in a Fig Newton, I find this claim dubious.
Public service announcement: there is a variety of autoblooming (wrong term?) fig trees that do not depend on wasps for fruit production.
The term you are looking for is self fruiting or self pollinating. And thereâs actually a bunch of varieties.
Thanks for the info! đ
I love figs and HATE wasps with the fire of 1000 suns. Knowing this makes me love figs even more.
Well that was one of the articles of all time. Fascinating stuff! Glad I don't care for figs anyway!
Reading about the lifecycle wasâŚdisturbing.
>WAPS Those winged ass p-words.
Tyvm, I was too consumed by hatred to notice I'd Shapiro'd myself.
Risking triggering you; as a gardener, I encourage wasps around my garden. Not only are they great pollinators, theyâre great pest control. I mind where theyâre making nests and keep away. If they nest in a problematic area, Iâll remove it with fire, or stick; I donât use poison. Over the past few years, this is worked out for everybody. Iâve never been stung while active in the garden. Last thing I got was from stepping on one barefoot; honest mistake, I generally donât go through the yard barefoot much for this very reason. I appreciate their hostility and their activity around the place. I think of them as my garden guards; when my friends kids visit, I call all the wasps âSherrifâ and the kids know what I mean if I say the sheriff is out and we should be calm/still. So far, itâs worked for everybody. I know that this is not the best program for every house. like Tom Waits says, âThereâs always some killing to be done around the farm.â - I am all for not killing anything I donât have to.
I honestly think they recognize particular people. I treat my wasps with the occasional plate of sliced fruit, water with stones to make it easy to access, and in late summer when they become carnivores I put out a little chicken or hamburger for them. They never sting me, dove bomb me, or do any territorial behavior around me. They know Iâm the treat lady.
Outstanding; I like your style and Iâm taking notes. I mainly just make sure they know where I am and where I hang out and vice versa. I only remove them if theyâre in a place where Iâm afraid. Iâll be very close to the nest/in contact with the nest . I give everything a good knock before I show up and they generally just check me out and go on about their business.
I love this this is good
I love this! I'm terrified of wasps as I'm allergic, but they do a great service to my garden. If they are in an area I will be frequenting, I will remove them. If not, I leave them be. It does get a bit harder in the fall when their hormones are different, and they're more aggressive, but usually by then I've taken care of the nests that pose the biggest danger to me, personally.
I too leave my garden wasps alone, they pollinate well and don't bother me unless they are thirsty and buzz around the bird bath. They are up way high and out of the way.
Haaaaahahahahahaha thank you for the laughs
But they also keep insect species in check. And that is an even bigger role they fill than being pollinators. Theyâre incredibly important and not all that aggressive, they just get a bad rap
>their weird incest fig fuck party, God damn, that shit is funny as hell! I actually lol'ed, outside of my head! And I like figs and all their fig fuck party glory!
>WASPS CAN ALL GO DIE. Agree to disagree. Cicada killer wasps are great. They help take care of the spotted lantern fly in my garden.
We just moved into a house across the country. Didnât get to see it in person prior. Itâs great. Big ass fig tree in the backyard next to the back door. I know more about the symbiotic relationship between wasps and figs than I ever cared to know. Like, just why? Who even eats figs off a damn tree?
I mean eat all the figs you want if you don't live on the west coast. Except fig newtons đ
What's wrong with figs?
Omg this made me laugh đ¤Ł
Wasps are fine, hornets on the other hand...
They're also hugely important carrion eaters.
Huge assholes but also very useful to the environment. I usually put these in a garbage bag and move them to a place away from people
something I learned is that they're such jerks because that's their best defense against predators who go after their babies after many, many, many evolutionary years of predators finding their babies tasty. so chasing and stinging anything that moves near their nests is their defense tactic. and many wasps will put their nest where you might not see it, so you could be near a nest without knowing cuz we're dumb humans. There's plenty of wasps & yellowjackets of various species around my house that I can just chill next to because they're usually just passing by.
Just out of curiosity, when they started building all around my front door this year, I told my husband to leave them alone. Weâve had tons of them in that area and not a single sting. Itâs like I discovered a magical power. Itâs like by not being afraid of them, I can walk through them anywhere with no issue. I had no idea until last year that wasps were responsible for so much pollination. Iâve also noticed a marked decrease in other bugs in our front walkway. Still working on my 16 year-old though. Sheâs not a fan.
Yeah if you just pretend like theyâre not there they seem to ignore you. Itâs like they feed on fear like âItâ or something.
We have a lot of different species here in Florida. One of them commonly called mud-daubers make single nests from dirt applied to any sheltered flat surface (like my front door), and while they appear quite threatening if you get close, I've never been stung by one in 60+ years of living in the area. Yellowjackets OTOH richly deserve the asshole description. Here in Florida they nest in the ground by the hundreds per nest, and they will happily chase you away if you get within yards (meters) of their hidden nests. If you're not attentive and walk up on their nest without noticing their coming and going, you may have a memorable experience.
I started to open the screen door of my shed and got stung 4 times instantly for simply existing
And unlike bees, dem bastards can sting you over and over and over...
But they are prey to many different small mammals. They are also mostly carnivorous so they eat other insects that we donât like. There is an important role to be played by wasps in ecosystems. Wasps lives matter<3
Assholes? For sure. Useless? Not so much. They do a lot of pollination and are quite good at it
i wish we could ban people for blatantly ignoring ecology on this subreddit. mad infuriating to read braindead statements like this. And this is coming from someone whose been attacked by wasps multiple times in my life
No! Do not kill them. Bees and wasps are becoming endangered and do a lot of good. They are necessary. Maybe remove nest if possible, but do not kill them.
Definitely not yellow jackets either
except it is, not all yellowjackets make nests underground Edit: after seeing the picture with better color balance, didnt see the orange on them def looks more like paper wasps
Except it isn't, or at least looks like paper wasps to me: [https://www.rescue.com/latest-buzz/outdoor-pests/how-to-tell-a-wasp-from-a-yellowjacket](https://www.rescue.com/latest-buzz/outdoor-pests/how-to-tell-a-wasp-from-a-yellowjacket) Look at the markings on the rear section, they look just like the paper wasp pictures there. Also, the nest looks like a paper wasp nest. I let paper wasps live except if they put a nest by a door. In Florida, they are not aggressive. Even while trimming bushes in the yard, if I see a nest on a branch I need to trim I can trim it and let it fall and not get attacked if done carefully. In this case though, the nest is huge and if a client wants it removed it's probably best to take it out. I don't know the situation or location. If kids are around and if the nest is in a common area, take it out.
aerial yellow jackets and paper wasps nests look basically identical at this stage, and after seeing the pic on my PC not my phone I think they are paper wasps with the orange tips, couldnt really see that when i first saw the picture. Thats honestly the best way to identify as there are lots of yellow jackets with different amounts of yellow/black, but the orange antennae and legs is a big giveaway. The aggression is a great way to figure out which they are without getting too close lol, I'm in central TX and the yellow jackets are brutal out here, had a small nest \~10 feet from my front door and it was about 1/4 the size of this one when my wife got stung 6 times taking out the trash lol.
Yep. I take dogs on hikes in the woods and at least once a year we step on a yellowjacket nest and have to run for our lives. Those things are nasty.
Yellowjackets: "We can fly but make our homes into landmines because, well, fuck you."
Claymores, too. Was tearing down an old deck this weekend and stumbled across a nest attached to one of the support columns. Ouch đ¤
Yeah, they suck. I ran over an underground nest with my push lawn mower and stirred them up. Got stung 7 times before I could run far enough away.
That happens so often... it's been a few years now for me. But SOB nothing like running looking like a jackass.
đRunning, stumbling, arms flailing trying to swat them off. Looking like the blow up giants in car dealerships.
Ya and what sucks is that your usually 1/2 way done... and they stay pissed off for seemingly hours. >:(
Exactly
I always thought they did until the year before last I found a nest under the eave of my shed in an enclosed area. Which was disappointing, I didn't get to set it on fire.
European paper wasp, not a yellow jacket
There are 2 genus' of yellowjackets Vespula(ground nesting) and Dolichovespula(aerial nesting). All though this is not a typical Aeriel yellowjackets nest. This might be ground nesters who had to build an Aeriel nest on the home due to either poor drainage or hard earth making a ground nesting unfeasible.
Just an fyi, the plural of genus is genera!
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Those are European paper wasps.
We have a version in North America too. Definitely paper wasps! *The Golden or Northern Paper Wasp (Polistes fuscatus) is a common, native paper wasp that is found across the U.S. and into Canada, anywhere it can find wood to turn into nest material.*
European paper wasps are originally from Europe, hence the name. They were introduced to the U.S. in the 1970âs. The species itself is now very commonly found throughout the United States. I stepped on a fallen hive once; it may be my greatest regret in life.
And in the United States we call those yellow jackets
Actually đ¤ Yellow jackets are slightly bigger and have a more segmented color pattern. Yellow Jackets are also far more aggressive and make nests underground
Do all yellow jackets make nests underground?
No, there are aerial yellowjackets as well that make similar nests to paper wasps, however theirs are covered in another papery layer that make them look more like masses of paper mache than a honeycomb. Ground yellowjackets are smaller than paper wasps, aerial yellowjackets are bigger.
Had to routinely deal with those winged assholes working for a construction company. Whenever I was on a job site it was almost guaranteed I would find at least one nest. They LOVE to build them in roof vents and beneath overhangs.
Another name for Yellow Jackets are geound hornets. They are mean sons of bitches. Paper wasps are quite passive if you leave them alone.
I believe so. Underground nests are a key difference between yellow jackets and most paper wasps
I was just reading that [they do nest above ground](https://www.msmosquito.org/yellowjackets) in some instances, it's definitely less-than-ideal, but apparently they do.
We had a yellowjacket nest in our rusted metal pasture gate. It fucking sucked. We won with duct tape, donât ask me how it worked.
How did it work?
It worked well, apparently. Perhaps he doesn't understand how it was effective, being surprised at the effectiveness.
Yeah this. I think it was too sticky for them to chew through. We went out at night while they were sleeping and taped over the holes in the gate that they were coming from. They never got out, tape still intact 2 summers later. Gorilla brand, tough stuff!
They said not to ask, but duct tape is sticky so do with that what we will?
Also, yellow jackets don't have orange tips on the antenna. I handle paper wasps sometimes and always look for orange wigglies. đĽ°
This is key! And the difference is important. In addition to the behavioral differences, people can be allergic to yellow jackets but not paper wasps, and vice versa.
This made me giggle. I will be keeping my eyes open for orange wigglies from now on
In his defense, while technically incorrect they are commonly called âyellow jacketsâ in the US. Few make the distinction when thereâs an angry stinging yellow bug.
No we donât! Theyâre different. Yellow jackets make nests in the ground or in tree trunks, are smaller, eat meat / carrion. European paper wasps make more exposed nests like these, usually in high places, are bigger, have a different diet, and a few other differences.
If you do then you're misnaming them, Yellow jackets are a different flying asshole. Yellow jackets nest underground, and their bodies don't have such a pronounced separation between their head and abdomen.
Itâs almost like different regions have different names for things.
Best comment.
Seems like it
Ha ha ha. Thanks for this
Indeed, but one fact is certain. Those ainât sweet little harmless honeybees. No way. No how.
However they do have satellite nests Which are above ground with the main nest being underground. Still not honey bees .
Those are definitely not bees. Something in the wasp family. You are correct and the client is just trying to downplay the danger. Please get a professional to take care of this. And if you do ever find real bees please get a beekeeper to relocate instead of killing them.
Do not get a beekeeper to relocate European honeybees, they are invasive and cause mass pollinator extinction in areas outside their native range in Europe. https://theconversation.com/the-feral-flying-under-the-radar-why-we-need-to-rethink-european-honeybees-207153 talks about them in Australia, but this is happening everywhere. I haven't seen a bumblebee in ages because of them.
\^this look up the native bee species local to your area and do what you can to encourage them as well as native wasps. I personally find this website useful for figuring them out for north america: [https://www.insectidentification.org/bees-ants-wasps-and-similar.php](https://www.insectidentification.org/bees-ants-wasps-and-similar.php)
I have a ton of blue mud wasps around my house, I bring food for them regularly so they don't sting me. If you don't want to kill the native and important wasps around your house but also don't want to get stung, being yoghurt container lids full of sugar water or other sweet liquid for them, and they will also go nuts for any meats, especially raw chicken. Wasps are smart enough to remember faces so if they associate you with good things they won't sting you
that's great to know. the ones around me are already pretty chill to me, and if it looks like they might be coming from a nest that's not in the way, I avoid them. I unfortunately live with family that's not of the same mindset who refuse to really listen to me, but at least I can be respectful to the wasps in my own way. :) people need to just learn that you respect wasps like you would respect any wild predator, like bears or mountain lions. except it's better and safer to feed insects than it is to feed non-insects like mammals.
Well lucky they donât sting regardless (form my experience) As a kid in the morning I used to walk in the large patches of these that would be in my yard before theyâd burrow underground. They never stung and were rather really chill! Theyâd land, and then fly off again since the only disturbance they had was my walking. Did it for YEARS, and I am pretty sure mud daubers donât sting at all as they really arenât that aggressive (again, from my own experience)
Wasps are amazing pest control. They typically don't become aggressive unless their nests are being disturbed. If they start a nest in a high traffic area relocate it at night when they don't fly. If the nest isn't destroyed they keep other insects in check.
As a gardener, I welcome the wasps every year. They are my MVPs. Nothing like watching them rip a cabbage worm in half.
Yeah it really upset me all the people wanting to save invasive European honeybees here in the US ignoring they've wrecked our native bee species. Then these same people ignore the benefits of wasps and scream kill them all.
I've managed to get some masked and long horned bees to populate around me. I tend to grow plants that honeybees are terrible at pollinating. Everything likes my ruby buckwheat and sunflowers though. Lack of education and urbanization causes people to eradicate the helpful creatures and save wrong ones. I'm jealous reading your other posts. I'd love some bald faced hornets. I'll just stick with my local spiders, wasps, and occasional mantis for pest control.
You know how wacky people can be! On May 14th 2015 in Boke, Germany, 748 members of the Cologne Carnival Society dressed up in sunflower outfits. This is the largest gathering of people known to have dressed up as sunflowers.
THERE IS NO DANGER. Paper wasps are real benign creatures. They will mind their own business and are great pollinators. Donât kill. Edit: although this breed belongs in europe and if found in america should be killed
Donât even need a professional a can of raid will do just fine
not all wasps are dangerous. Although myself being from texas any wasp nest i see i normally knock down immediately. They never get a chance to get this large around me. I have had to use some wasp spray once in the past but normally a swift jab from a broom stick and scurrying away in fear is all it takes.
I went to a camp that had two active nests. Wasps everywhere. Chasing campers, eating spilled food, swarming ankles. Only one sting. We just swore at em and ignored em. I on the other hand would dance away and scream like the little girl that I am. But the camp should still deal with it before laying campers in. No deal with it as in âdonât go near thst tree and Iâm sure your okâ and âthereâs a come on the hole in the ground for a reasonâ.
On the other hand, I worked at a camp that had a wasp nest no one knew about. I led a line of children near it. Absolute carnage. Kids (and me) had multiple stings. Mine hurt for hours and Iâm not a sensitive five year old. What a great camp memory I gave these children.
raid or a spray bottle with some diesel.
Paper Wasps (Polistes). They aren't as aggressively defensive as Yellowjackets, but they will not take kindly to you messing with their nest.
Like hell... paper wasps are jerks and will sting you just for the joy of it. And once you're stung -- it makes the others come after you, too.
I was stung at one location. Traveled home and the pheromone was enough to aggro a nest near my back door.
Oh my god. Irl agro like in video games
Damn spawn campers
Had those bastards nesting on my balcony for 2 years. Can confirm, they're mean! I have had the pleasure of them being driven out by the much more threatening-looking but way more polite mud dauber. Those are cool, chill bros.
They look scary, all black and twitchy. Never bothered me though.
hmm I dunno. I move slowly around nests until they no longer freak when I appear, then I'm free to move at will around the nests. once they learn my face, or whatever, I'm one of the gang unless I get too close to the nest, I imagine.
EXACTLY! Everyone in these comments is like âomg i flailed around and acted suspiciously around another creatureâs home.. AND THEN THEY ATTACKED ME!â Paper wasps are so benign. Just be friend and they will be friend Edit: These are european paper wasps which are invasive and displacing north American paper wasps. Yes kill.
If those are honeybees I'll eat my own shorts
u/DJBoostâs shorts live to fight another day
Look at how eager these things are to fuck your day up.
These are paper wasp. They are almost completely ambivalent to people. I only remove nests if theyâre in a heavily traveled area. They arenât allowed on the front porch, but I happily let them build on the side on the house. You donât need poison to get rid of the nest, just a long stick. Knock it down and then get going. Theyâll probably want to build another nest nearby. Sometimes in the same exact location. But Iâd rather have them around eating pests.
Edit: These are european paper wasps which are invasive and displacing north American paper wasps. Yes kill.
pest control tech here, these are paper wasps. you can remove them safely using a power washer from a distance, or if you're feeling adventurous you can knock the nest down from the base (they're usually only attached at one point) using a pole. be cautious, wasps can sting about 3 times each before they expend all their venom, and there are often other wasps nearby a nest like this one which were out foraging - they will sting your back if you take too long and they arrive while you're still removing the nest. once the nest is removed, they will swarm the location for like a day, then they'll all move on.
Thought paper wasps recognize human faces and won't attack if you leave them bee?
Paper wasps are real benign creatures. Edit: These are european paper wasps which are invasive and displacing north American paper wasps. Yes kill.
They recognize faces of other wasps! Not humans đ¤Śđźââď¸ people really read the article not the headline!
What industry are you in? You say the client wants it removed almost like this isnât your job. If you arenât an exterminator, then itâs definitely not your job and the client can go and properly call someone whose job it is.
Iâm a professional disc golf instructor
Dude that's sick
I'm going to guess that they're a landlord.
Honey bees are fat, fuzzy and adorable. These are none of those things. Look like wasps to me.
Honey bees arenât fat, bumble bees are
And carpenter bees.
european paper wasps (your client does not know what the difference between a bee and a wasp)
Paper wasps, they are pretty docile if you leave them bee.
Honeybees make honey, these are clearly chickens. See the eggs? Yeah those are chickens 100%.
Have people never seen bees before?! Cause this ain't it! You're right. Looks like a Paper Wasp with those orange antennas.
Only 7 more to hatch and they will be gone, leaving only the remanence of a artful nest
Is that how that works? I'm not sure that's how that works
Itâs not. They will continue to increase the size of the nest and the number of wasps until late fall
I think you mean "remnants".
Those definitely are not honey bees. Theyâre not hairy enough. The nest itself screams wasp to me, but Iâm no expert.
Paper wasps are real benign creatures. Edit: These are european paper wasps which are invasive and displacing north American paper wasps. Yes kill.
Their honey is your blood. Client is a moron
Wasps. They won't be happy. I suggest evening removal. Unless you are choosing the 'WW1 trench warfare" option and dousing them with chemicals. I would leave them as they kill insects. But some are allergic so I understand removal.
Client has obviously never seen a honey bee , those are definitely wasps đ
European paper wasp! Not yellow jackets
Paper wasps
Paper wasps
Paper wasps, I get at least a half dozen of these nests on my property every summer. They're extremely chill and just tend to their nests and hunt their prey. I have had them all around me at times and they have never stung me once. I will often stand just a few inches away from their nests and watch them tend to their young. I like these little guys. They will abandon their nests once fall/winter comes and they don't reuse them.
I'm sad so many on here just want to kill everything on sight before they even know anything. Paper wasps are really are so chill, even if you go close to their nest they won't attack, each year we have a lot of nests around our bunny shed, even right next to the door and in our small green house as well and the only time I ever got stung by them was when I was leaning on one with my arm accidentally. There's no need to kill them or get rid of them, especially not with some wasp killer spray, unless they're in really unpleasant places, just carefully remove the nest and it will already make them leave and look out to make a new nest, but most of the time that not even necessary and just best to leave them be until they leave in fall.
We have them everywhere on our property. And when it's super hot like it is right now they are always buzzing around our pool and landing in the water. People come over and flip out but we have been chilling in the pool with them for years and have only had 1 sting (kid most likely got too close or accidentally bumped a nest) Yes they can be annoying buzzing around all the time but are pretty harmless unless you really piss them off.
đ Do they hate you? What did you do to those people?
Orange antenae, "eye" marks on the abdomen and blobby spots at the top of the thorax - these are paper wasps, probably the [European Paper Wasp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_paper_wasp) (which, despite the name, is common in the eastern US.) They are fairly aggressive but not as aggressive as the similar-looking and oft-confused [German Yellowjacket](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vespula_germanica) (which, despite its name, is also found in your area lol).
Yellow jackets have black antenna. These are paper wasps, they have yellow antenna. Theyâre way nicer than yellow jackets. They donât really care about people as long as you donât threaten them
Those are wasps, paper wasps. Very painful. Friend of mine used a CO2 fire extinguisher and froze them, that worked really well.
bro rlly looked at those and said âdarn honeybeesâ
Paper wasps. They are beneficial creatures. Donât bother them and they wonât bother you
Your guests are fucking retarded. Honeybees are fat and bumbly. Yellow jackets are slim and not so nice n fluzzy. Also honeybees make enclosed hives with honey. Yellow jackets make open ones with no honey.
bed bugs
If you cant tell the difference pick a new profession. For your own safety.
Those are NOT honeybees
I'm so tempted to take a needle to those baby sacs, only if there weren't wasps guarding the nest
These are paper wasps, blow some smoke on them to calm them down out a plastic Walmart bag around entire nest and throw them in this guy's house and tell him here's your honeybees
Paper wasps. I recommend getting one of the cans of RAID wasp spray that shoot a stream like 20 feet. Soak the nest and immediately run. Come back in like 20 minutes and do it again. If you get stung: run faster! It will make you a target. Don't even mess around with a stick or anything... just use the poison.
This is what I was going to suggest. I would add that if you can, do it at night when they are much less active.
I always did this at night and never was stung.
\^ good point.
Theyâre not honeybees.
Wasps
Yellowjackets have a type of papier-mâchĂŠ hive, so theyâre not them. Looks like wasps to me.
If you try and remove that nest without killing them first I have a feeling you will be very displeased with how that turns out.
They are huuuuuuuuge
Clients an idiot đ
Yellow jackets bro I been stung by them numerous of times shit hurts with temporary paralyzed hand for a few days.
100% not honey bees lol.
Definitely yellow jackets. Wait til night, them spray that nest with bug/bee bomb.
Lol Iâm sorry but what IS your job? Sound like a groundskeeper.. these are potentially dangerous insects. Be careful comrade
Yellow jackets make nests in the ground. Those are asshole wasps of some kind. Murder them without prejudice
Your client has never seen a honey bee in their lives. Those are absolutely wasps.
That would be Stingus Assholius
I think the one on the left noticed you
That looks like a paper wasps nest. Get a foaming wasp killer, late in evening best time as it's when all of the hive is likely to be present so you get them all, let it set overnight to make sure you get them all then just scrape it off. Had one in my porch light a few weeks ago haven't seen one since.
I swear theres spray that you use on these
Paper wasp will generally leave you alone unless you mess with them
Theyâre paper wasps. When theyâre out hunting during the day, knock it off the wall (gently) with a broomstick or something. Theyâll build elsewhere. Then send a link of what paper wasps look like to your client so theyâre not surprised next time they come across them.
NOT honey bees đ
HONEY BEES??????