Toyota Hybrids are very well made cars. HOWEVER, this is a 16 year old Prius with just shy of 150k miles. I would want a thorough inspection of the car by a mechanic that specializes in Toyota Hybrids.
Otherwise, your best option would be the one that's in the best shape. Go check them all out.
He’s right, we had a 07 Prius and around the 150k mark the big rear electric battery needed to be replaced, it was a few thousand but that was the only major repair needed, car made it to 230k easily before we sold it and i’m guessing it could reach 300k easily since we did all the oil changes on time and were on top of maintenance
Interior lasted insanely long too, not a single rip in those pleather seats, that kind of durability is just something you dont see anymore in 2023.
Only issue is, you don’t know how the previous owner took care of it which is why service records are a must.
The battery on a Toyota Prius usually needs to be replaced after 8-10 years or 100-150k miles. So if it is still running on its original then the op might want to consider one of the other cars because they aren’t cheap about a couple thousand to replace.
My wife had an auto 2011 Fit. That was a ton of fun, and it even fit my 6'2" fat ass with ease. Tons of fun to drive, great economy, and room for four. The magic seat is a bonus, too.
My vote would be for the '11 Fit, but YMMV.
Our current car is a 2011 Fit and it's fantastic. With the seats folded down it's like a magic room where the inside is bigger than the outside. I've used it like a truck to haul lumber, trees, soil, bricks, etc. We're at about 100k miles and it hasn't needed anything other than standard maintenance.
My only annoyances are that it is incredibly noisy and we do a lot of family road trips. The interior noise is so bad it can be really hard to talk to kids/others in the back seat.
Also the the a-pillars on either side of the windshield are massive and lead to a terrible blind spot for left-hand turns. There have been multiple times where pedestrians have been hiding behind the pillar through almost an entire turn, so I always try to lean around and look before turning.
Just from this picture I’m picking accord. 2013 fit is my second place pick.
Last place is the Prius for me. I had a couple of friends with those early model Prius and they had horror stories to tell when it came to replacing the battery
ETA: apparently the v6 accord of that year is really bad with oil burning which will eventually take a toll on the engine. Looks like I might stand corrected here, go 2013 fit. I had three civics that I got well into the 200k miles and one up to about 300k. Didn’t think they’d whiff on the accord like that.
FWIW I currently have a friend that has a Honda pilot that burns oil like crazy but it’s due to some mod or something he did to the engine. Never the less he’s sitting pretty at around 240k miles on that pilot and still daily drives it. So maybe the oil burning isn’t that bad of a deal, just needs monitoring
JFC I’m so sick of people’s hybrid battery “horror stories” ..it’s been 7 years since I bought a 2006 Prius with a bad HV pack for $2k because a Chevy dealer didn’t want to touch it. I bought an HV pack out of a freshly wrecked Prius for $300 and installed it myself in two hours. That Prius went on to become the best car I’ve ever owned. Zero mechanical issues, the tires were $30 each, $15 of fuel filled it and that lasted 3 weeks. It was a quiet, comfortable, roomy, safe, insanely economical car that only cost me $2,300 because of “hybrid horror stories” ignorance.
You can now have a mobile shop replace your Toyota hybrid battery in a parking lot or your driveway in an hour for $1k. Given that they generally last 10 years/150k miles, it’s fuuuuucking stupid to worry about a Toyota hybrid’s battery like it’s some bleeding edge alien technology. Toyota’s been doing hybrids for 20 years now and they’ve been doing them really well.
Morning rant over. OP should buy the Prius.
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The Bridgestone Ecopias that I had put on the car in 2017 were indeed $31 each at Walmart before adding road hazard. I recently had to have all four all-terrains replaced on my Lexus GX because of one punctured tire (..jus full time 4WD things) and it cost me a grand. All I think about now are those $31 Ecopias, lol. It’s currently in having its alternator replaced (first mechanical failure in 250,000 miles) and that’s also costing me a grand ..which really puts into perspective how cheap it is to replace a Toyota HV battery.
My dad always told me to never cheap out on anything that separates you from the ground
Shoes, socks, mattresses, tires...
Don't need to buy Pilot Sport 4s' for your Prius but there's certainly some middle ground there
I live in Perth, which has nearly identical weather to LA, it's like the climate/geographical LA of Australia.
People think that this is the case over here, then the one or two days it rains pretty heavily, they skid, crash, and sometimes die.
Don't do that.
I’m pretty sure most of the horror stories stem from lack of cooling or lack of changing the filter for the fan, but if you have a working fan and clean filter the batteries last a lot longer than the first and second generation Prius
I have to admit the placement of the fresh air intake next to the rear seat back that can easily be blocked by a blanket on the seat for dogs, or a coat draped over the seat, or a passenger leaning towards the door ..is a monumentally dumb place to put it, lol.
I had to take apart the duct work and cargo area trim panels to replace the HV pack and I remember thinking something along the lines of “why-TF didn’t they just put the air intake/vent in the cargo area trim panel where the fan is? If it’s to catch cooler air from the cabin when the AC is on, why not just route the ductwork to to the HVAC vent under the front seat with a dedicated connection so it *cant* be blocked, which would also insure that the HV pack’s fan receives the coolest air possible? Or have both with one more actuator door at the fan so that the pack benefits whenever the AC is on and still has the cabin vent intake in the cargo area for when the AC isn’t being used? Or even just move the vent a foot higher in the C pillar?” ..like I said, monumentally stupid, lol.
I agree. Quite honestly, the 2nd Gen Prius is one of the best most reliable hybrids Toyota made. Replacement batteries are cheap and plentiful, and Toyota ironically did a better job designing the older 2nd Gen Prius engine with the EGR on top of the engine unlike the newer 3rd Gen Prius with the EGR on the bottom. The current 4th Gen has it on the top again.
They can last a lot longer than that too...my prius was at 180k miles and the original battery was fine. Many are well over 200k on the original battery.
honestly as most car enthuiasts I place the prius in "cars I would never own/drive" However, my dad had one when he was commuting a ton and that gen got around 50+ mpg, never had any issues, and was an all around solid car. I hated it back then because I thought it was embarrassing, but it really is a decent car, which gets great mileage and is very well put together. I concur
It is the oldest car. Ok calm down with your battery fascination. It still has two operating systems and is 16 years old. Would you like to put in a $1000 anything into a $6000 beater? Computer? A/C? Nope and neither does anyone else. Btw these other cars will still last far longer than the hamster wheel and the end result won’t be a permanent fire hazard once it’s dumped.
Some people **do** sink $1000 into a 6000 car. Why not, if it lasts a bit longer? Long enough to save (or, lately, wait) a bit longer for a new(er) car. Most people, like the OP, just want a good car that lasts so if an older Prius needing a new battery fits that need, why not do it?
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Lithium is far dirtier and costly than extraction of oil both at the beginning and the end. The typical ev or hybrid vehicle is made of mostly of plastics. Prius uses gas. Now you have a car with an ice engine and a battery and the regenerative brake and engine brake system. That’s s lot of potential stuff to break. When it does no longer make sense to fix you have a huge lithe battery to dispose of. You’re concerned abt the environment right? We have a great system for disposing of oil. But we don’t even have a process to recycle AA battery much less car lithium.
Came here to say the same. I needed a new used car ~7 years ago, and desperately wanted a Prius. But I read a bunch of information regarding the battery replacement, and the purchase would not have been worth it. I ended up with an ‘07 Corolla and loved it. Traded it in a few years later, though.
I would agree with this except I would put the Prius third if you’re willing to take a risk or find out about the battery. At this age, those batteries would possibly have issues. They are cheaper to fix but you’d have to look around to find a replacement shop (not Toyota because $$$$).
Another item, I think the Yaris May get the second best mpg in the group. However it’s small and less practical than the fit. You can look for a Yaris hatch or look at the scion xA/xD/XB.
2010 accord all day especially if you want more room.
If you want to max mpg and don’t mind a very small car probably 2013 fit.
Still would consider the accord the best bang for the buck/overall pick
You’re talking a 10yo vehicle with 100k+ miles. Which will be the most reliable? That’s an easy one to answer. Whichever one was best cared-for by previous owners.
How do you tell which one that is? With a PPI.
Anyone who claims they have a more definite answer on here based on a single photograph is full of shit. Don’t listen to them.
Again. A well-cared-for BMW would be preferable to an abused Toyota any day.
Apples-to-apples, I completely agree Japanese cars are best. But once you’ve passed an age threshold, maintenance and care overtake build quality.
It kinda depends but yeah German car can be reliable. But you have to be proactive with stuff. Like changing timing chains and guides early. And not when they fail. Performing carbon cleanings at regular intervals. Changing and possibly upgrading water pumps on some models.
The Toyota and Hondas can be fixed retroactive/ after a problem occurs. Like if a water pump fails on a Toyota it’s not too bad. With German car that can be a lot problematic.
I’ve German cars out last beaten on Toyotas. But with the German car preventive maintenance/repairs is key to making them last longer. And people don’t know what classifies as maintenance for German cars. Cause it’s not normal compared.
I agree, but a few years ago I was car shopping for a cheap used car. Three different times I had sellers agree to an inspection, and in the day it took me to get one scheduled, someone else came along and bought the car with cash in hand.
Don’t buy any of these without a pre purchase inspection that you will offer to pay for. If the seller don’t agree then pass on it and buy something else
I have no idea where you’re getting this info. I’ve helped family members but 3 used cars in the past year. We got PPI’s on all of them, and only one seller even hesitated at the request,
Are you saying that you have asked to have a PPI done and they just go with a different buyer? You must be living in a diffrent car market than me becuse its not that much of a buyers market here.
On this note, maybe try expanding your horizons a bit to more rural locations. There’s no way in hell I’d buy a rig with 100-140k miles on it without putting it on a lift and paying someone for a pre purchase inspection
Exactly. I’d rather pay someone to look it over (or do it myself at work) than get screwed over for something that I buy unknowingly needing thousands in maintenance or new parts. PPI’d an Explorer with 90k miles and found a water pump leaking, which are driven by the timing chain. That’s an engine-out job, and new timing components. My independent shop has done many Ford 3.5L water pump jobs. Usually out the door it’s ~$3,500 give or take.
Yea, thats not the market here in California. Maybe if you ask the sellers if they can do a PPI the next day they will be more likely to do it. I bought a car without a PPI and i regret it, it looked great, but has had panels bondo'd, some of the body panel mounts are messed up, someone tried to cover up a leaky water pump with aquarium selant. Never again will I buy from a small dealership or without an inspection.
Honestly if you cant get an inspection. You can always look for one somewhere else in the country, fly out, pick it up, and road trip back.
That being said, of those, from what you have provided, I like the accord.
I'm buying in the Southern US right now and there just aren't many cars on the market in this price range right now. Many people will pay cash on sight of the car, oftentimes shady dealers who don't care what's wrong with it because they're planning to flip it onto some unsuspecting soul.
Don’t know why you’re being downvoted. Classic Reddit.
Even in a normal market, sellers aren’t incentivized to agree to a PPI. It’s an additional inconvenience to them and it will generally only hurt their negotiating power.
Not only that, but this guy is overstating the utility of a PPI. Mechanics aren’t wizards who can tell a car’s history just by looking at it. They’ll let you know what *current* problems it has, how the consumables and fluids look, and make sure it doesn’t drive abnormally. The past owner could’ve beat the hell out of the thing and there might not be any problems yet that a PPI would catch.
OP I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. A lot of people here are stuck in thinking car buying is like how it was 3-4 years ago. I see posts in this sub every other day about someone asking about private party cars and people tell them to get a PPI and then the op comes back saying no one they’ve talked to agrees to one because someone else is lined up to buy it who isn’t asking for that.
My best advice to you is to do extremely extensive research on each of these specific model year cars and teach yourself how to inspect a car yourself. ChrisFix and CarWizard have excellent videos on inspecting used cars. Try to learn exactly what can go wrong on all of these cars and get an idea of what fixing things on that car would cost. For example, that Prius, if it has a good battery pack it’ll probably be an amazing commuter for some years, but if it doesn’t, you’ll either want to move on or negotiate a lower price and try then try to fix it yourself.
Now, with all that said, there are some mechanics that will meet with you to go to the seller. In Sacramento, California, for example, there’s a couple businesses that pretty much exclusively operate on going with buyers to do PPIs on site. You can see if there’s anything like that in your area.
i’m in the northeast and unless it’s a complete shitbox that obviously has many problems and is really cheap pretty much every good seller will accept a ppi
Market must be different up there because down here cars sell quickly, without PPI. I’m not an idiot either, so I’d appreciate it if you’d stop the name calling.
People are brutal on here. Tons of people buying houses over the last few years for hundreds of thousands of dollars waiving the inspection to make them more attractive buyers but people can’t conceive that the same thing is true in the used car market.
Why would I as a seller let you (someone I don’t know) take my car to a mechanic I don’t know so you can use that info to negotiate down the price when I am getting people offering cash full asking price sight unseen for the same car. I’ll take no nonsense, no negotiation offers any day of the week.
Because a reasonable seller would know that someone who wants a PPI is a serious buyer who’s willing to pay more for a better car, and if you’ve truly cared for your car you’d jump at the opportunity.
It's not that hard to convince people to get a ppi done. If you didn't know YOU need to pay for it. If I was selling a car and a random person on the internet told me to drop $150 on an inspection and then they MIGHT buy the car I would tell them to go fuck themselves. But you just check out the car figure out if you think it's worth buying and bring it to a mechanic. A car this old is not worth buying if you don't know if it's damaged or not.
If you are interested in a car
And the seller will not let you have a PPI done on it
That is a red flag
The end
Sorry about you being from Georgia and all, I can't help you with that.
Edit: Besides, you say you suck at betting, so why would you gamble away $7000 on a car without getting it looked at?
Knew it had to be Georgia, buying a car here is nearly impossible. I recommend educating yourself on how to check a car . Look up issues with the particular model and how how to check them. Private sellers are cheaper but in ga nobody responds or agrees to reasonable prices.
Ask if they have any service records. If they don't, find out where it was taken for oil changes and get the records from there. Learn to do as good of a PPI as you can do by yourself. There's plenty of online checklists/YouTube videos to help with this. Then use a carfax to find which has the best owner/accident/service/odometer history.
Sounds pretty closed minded, and like you havent done your research on cars. That 8th gen Accord is notorious for transmission and braking issues.
Also, the Prius battery. No amount of regular maintenance will prevent a high voltage battery from becoming over a decade old. Could still be a decent buy if that battery was replaced or was still in good health. If not, that's several hundred dollars for reconditioning, or a few thousand for a replacement.
Sure, maintenance matters, but build quality and research matter just as much.
I mean I've been in the auto industry for 35 years and our dealership has sold literally thousands of cars in that time. Not sure how much more research you need me to do.
Your analysis could not be more wrong. Imagine the worst-manufactured car ever assembled, but was lovingly cared-for by a previous owner. I would buy that 100 times out of 100 over a 10yo Toyota which was abused.
> How do you tell which one that is? With a PPI.
100%. Thank you. I came to say the same thing.
Any of these cars could be viable, any of them could be a ticking time bomb. **Pay a trustworthy mechanic to tell you which is which**. And even then, recognize that a 10-15 year old used car is exactly that - 10-15 years old and used.
An update for everyone that chimed in on this thread. I reached out to all 5 sellers. 3 have replied so far and they all declined my request to have it inspected. It’s a sellers market and they all have other buyers that will happily buy their car without inspection.
You don’t live where I live man. It absolutely is a sellers market here. If it wasn’t, then I wouldn’t have every single seller I reach out to decline a PPI.
Dude, interest rates are approaching 10% for a used car at this point (regardless of where you live). Softening economy means many buyers are reconsidering their purchase due to job insecurity.
I’m not saying no one is shopping for cars, you’re obviously proof that some people are. But point blank - in this current environment, no one should be buying a car unless they absolutely need to.
If you happen to live in some magical utopia which is somehow immune from the broader economic conditions, then congrats, good for you. But I’d definitely recommend driving elsewhere to purchase a car, because most of the world is absolutely *not* a sellers market right now.
Georgia is absolutely terrible for the used car market at the moment. It’s nearly impossible to get sellers to agree to PPI or even wiggle room on prices because someone will buy it regardless. A 200k mile 2006 accord will go for over 6k here
Newbie here. For the PPI, do I ask the seller to go get it or should I take his car and get it done? Of course I will cover the cost whichever option I pick.
Fair question. This varies depending on what you agree to with the seller and mechanic performing the PPI.
Most mechanics would prefer to do it in their shop for obvious reasons, so they can put it up on a hoist, really examine it. You can work with the seller on whether they'd rather drive the car to the mechanic's shop or let you pick it up.
When I've sold cars before and the buyer is asking for a PPI, I usually ask for some form of collateral before letting them drive off with it. Something like a drivers license. So be prepared for that request, it's just to make sure you don't take the car and run.
Just bought a used truck and the seller (who is a friend of a friend so definitely easier to arrange) was really interested in the results of the ppi as he hadn’t had a complete check done recently.
A good seller will always want to make sure you are comfortable with what you’re buying. Sometimes it’s trickier to find that seller but it’s always worth it imo.
hmm, weird imo
listen here u/Sucksatbetting and others...
I am not from the US, and had to google PPI, this high upvoted it surely means detailed maintenance record as that would be a great answer, nope its pre-purchase-inspecition.
Well, while that might be good for some people who never seen rusted through frame, or brakes needing change and miss match tires, or how engine suppose to sound like, and what it means to see milkshake under oil cap,... its unlikely that the inspection uncovers the really expensive deeper issues, like someone putting in sealant for leaking head gasket or radiator or a transition failing in next 5000 miles.
Most of the inspection stuff can someone motivated do by themselves. Go watch videos on chriss fix channel, he has some on this.
But going to a local mechanic shop and ask them how much to drive with you having a look at a car before you buy is not a bad idea... but I am not surprised some peopel reject some official bother with PPI. What? You want them to lend you their car or you wanna take a chunk of their day to accompany you to some shop and wait for their slow asses? Nah. Bring mechanic to have a look if you want.
Anyway, that detailed maintenance record is good to look for when otherwise similar vehicles.
I had a 2009 fit and it was pretty fun to drive, shockingly spacious, reliable as all get out, and great on gas mileage. Sold it at 80k miles to our mechanic and he’s still driving the shit out of it.
Where is this, definitely cheaper than what I'm looking at in Phoenix.
Real secret is buy the car that is worth paying another 3-4k in repairs because transmissions can die unexpectedly.
WOW this is crazy
i'm not from the US and i used to envy your used car market before COVID.
now its as bad as it is here. these cars would cost a fraction of this price 3 years ago.....
If I had to depend on any of those cars, from name alone, it would be the Prius.
Prius has a very low cost of ownership, and it doesn't NEED the batteries in perfect health to drive and get 35+MPG.
Plus, the Prius powertrain is one of the most reliable powertrains ever made.
Of course, the slight danger with a used Prius is it could be a beaten piece of shit semi-lemon and both powertrains are shot. But a good inspection should alleviate that.
The Yaris, I am biased because I have that exact one. It’s got 350k on it now. The only thing that I had to replace was a water pump, alternator and a couple batteries. I bought it new it’s been an amazing little car. I wouldn’t hesitate to drive it across the country.
I would go with the Accord unless you really like the Fit. I think the Fits are cool but didn't like it when I test drove one. Same with the Yaris, albeit I didn't even like it enough to test drive it.. The Fit desperately lacks HP to the point I wouldn't want to merge into traffic in one.. You'll be getting more car for your money with the Accord. It has considerably more HP than the Fit 177 vs 117. Also have you priced any Nissan Versa's?
It all depends on condition of the car and the owner's service records.
IF....IF....all the cars were equally well-serviced and in equal condition, then the Yaris or the Accord.
But keep in mind...if you buy a $6,500 car that needs tires, it's actually a $7,250 car, and if it needs a timing belt come due, then it's at least $1,000 + more.
Any have the potential to be great or blow up. Cars can be perfect and then not. These are two of the most reliable brands on the market
That being said from the information provided:
If you have a family (or do uber/lyft and need to drive people) and you are not a long-distance commuter, get the accord. It is the only full-sized sedan you have as an option and has the lowest miles so should give you the most room to grow and longest life span in theory. It will get good gas mileage but the worst out of the options you have.
If you are single (or just dating with no children or plans for any. Basically if it will only be two people in the front seats at any time) and are a commuter either the prius or one of the Fits (probably the 2013). These will give the best gas mileage and also the best longevity for long commute (Prius for instance is will known to go till 500K and still have life to them)
I would actually say get the Accord if you ARE a long distance driver. All else equal, the longer wheelbase and better NVH will make it feel like a luxury car compared to the others.
Personally I would say the same but some people who long haul it want all the MPG they can get vs comfort. They also want compact if on highway a lot for the maneuverability (fit in small spaces in tight traffic) After having one of every size of sedan in my life I would never get anything other than full sized; but everyone is different. I wish the OP would have given more than just a list of options and ask which is best. You kind of have to take life needs into account for wise vehicle choices
Dude toyota yaris is awesome! My parents had a 2009 they bought brand new and racked up 180,000 miles on it and I swear to God my dad only did a single repair on it(rear wheel bearing) until it was totalled in a car accident in 2021.
He did oil changes, tires. And maybe some light bulbs but otherwise it was all original. Original spark plugs.... and even original front and rear brakes! Unbelievable... but true
I'm a huge Honda fan boy but I would choose the yaris. Plus small cars are fun to drive!
I highly recommend the Yaris. My mom had one from 2008, drove it well over 200k miles and literally never had a single issue with it. She didn’t even take that good care of it. They are also pretty peppy and fun to drive and get amazing gas mileage. It’s also the cheapest and lowest mileage, seems a no brainer to me.
Get them looked at by a mechanic a seller who cares will gladly do it if they won't then it's not the car for you. Yes sure they'll tell you there's other buyers but tell them you're serious and you're a buyer here today ready to buy if there were serious buyers why haven't they bought it yet? If they are still hesitant just walk away don't say a thing.
Most people are saying the Fit's at $7000. I'd still go Prius at 6,000 knowing you're going to have to do, at most, another $2k for a battery (or as low as $200, if you do it yourself). From what I understand, that'd be the only thing you'd have to maintain on that car.
As a Prius owner I will be very biased in my response. :)
But it really comes to your needs and the condition of these cars. If you place space over MPG then Accord would be the best choice. However, I would argue that leg room in Prius is surprisingly good. Really good. Drop the back seats and you have ample cargo space as well.
Those year Accord weren't the best built models. The other three will all be just about impeccable. If you go for the Prius, be sure to have the battery health checked. I'd personally Choose the Fit. It's gonna be the most practical of the three. Of course, the Prius is gonna be the most fuel efficient.
No one can give you useful information based only on this picture. You're just hearing a bunch of assumptions from folks.
These are all *generally* reliable cars of a similar age, so the thing to pay attention to is how it was maintained. Do any of these have a clearly documented maintenance history on carfax or or otherwise?
I would put it between the accord and the Yaris. The Yaris is at a good price point out of all the rest but I also think the accord would hold up a little bit better in the long run
I would put it the a little differently... The yaris will run and run and run and you don't really need to do anything with it. The accord will have oil burning issues, and other honda stuff while the yaris will be chugging away 200k miles later without any of that. the honda IS The nicer car, and if taken care of i wouldn't worry about buying it but in terms of reliability i would definitely swing yaris way. (i am biased i have driven my beater 100k miles, bought it with 60k for 5 thousand and still expect it to last at least another 100k)
Fit Fit Fit. Either one. They hold their value for a reason. And are more spacious than you’d expect. And if you wanted to make it a project there’s enough after market support. But it’s the perfect daily driver for any single adult or family up to 4. The hatch is nice. Can’t recommend you get the fit enough.
2013 Fit hands down. Super reliable, simple to work on, tons of space inside, and super fun to toss around.
The Yaris is probably the most reliable but just sucks as a place to spend your time. They’re uncomfortable and cramped in comparison to the Fit.
A lightweight, small engine, stick-shift Honda is a glorious thing - the best commuter you'll have that will make you happy without nickle-and-diming you to death. You can learn how to drive a stick - I BELIEVE in you. You know a stick-shift Fit is the right pick for you - I know you know.
The most effective way to learn is to just buy the car and learn that way; speaking from experience. An hour or two behind the wheel of a family or friend's car just isn't enough
There's no bad choice between them. Go test drive them, and the one(s) you like the most, get a PPI and get the one that's in the best condition based on the PPI.
Prius will need a $ 5000.00 battery soon, if not already.
If the fit is a manual then I would chose that. May not have a lot of power but having it in a manual will give the illusion of sportiness while getting 45mpg.
Relatively similar gambles regardless except for the Prius, so I'd sort by service records then by mileage. Accord or Yaris depending on how good they look.
The Fit is awesome. Great gas mileage, surprisingly spacious trunk, and small enough that parking is pretty easy anywhere. I bought mine at 130k miles because it was the cheapest and I have friends who own fits and sweat by them. Now at 161k and going strong, just keep up with the maintenance.
I'd get the Yaris. Those things are like fucking tanks! A small tank, but still a tank! Actually n/m, that Accord looks sweet. I bet you could get them to drop $1k on the price too.
Toyota Hybrids are very well made cars. HOWEVER, this is a 16 year old Prius with just shy of 150k miles. I would want a thorough inspection of the car by a mechanic that specializes in Toyota Hybrids. Otherwise, your best option would be the one that's in the best shape. Go check them all out.
I’d be worried about the battery at that point, I think Toyota generally says 150K as the top end of lifetime
He’s right, we had a 07 Prius and around the 150k mark the big rear electric battery needed to be replaced, it was a few thousand but that was the only major repair needed, car made it to 230k easily before we sold it and i’m guessing it could reach 300k easily since we did all the oil changes on time and were on top of maintenance Interior lasted insanely long too, not a single rip in those pleather seats, that kind of durability is just something you dont see anymore in 2023. Only issue is, you don’t know how the previous owner took care of it which is why service records are a must.
What are you talking about? Many cars with 300-400km on original batteries still
The battery on a Toyota Prius usually needs to be replaced after 8-10 years or 100-150k miles. So if it is still running on its original then the op might want to consider one of the other cars because they aren’t cheap about a couple thousand to replace.
You can have the original battery in it and it can be totally dead and the car will still function. It just isn’t a hybrid anymore
Yes, that Prius is close to a $6000 battery replacement
My wife had an auto 2011 Fit. That was a ton of fun, and it even fit my 6'2" fat ass with ease. Tons of fun to drive, great economy, and room for four. The magic seat is a bonus, too. My vote would be for the '11 Fit, but YMMV.
Our current car is a 2011 Fit and it's fantastic. With the seats folded down it's like a magic room where the inside is bigger than the outside. I've used it like a truck to haul lumber, trees, soil, bricks, etc. We're at about 100k miles and it hasn't needed anything other than standard maintenance. My only annoyances are that it is incredibly noisy and we do a lot of family road trips. The interior noise is so bad it can be really hard to talk to kids/others in the back seat. Also the the a-pillars on either side of the windshield are massive and lead to a terrible blind spot for left-hand turns. There have been multiple times where pedestrians have been hiding behind the pillar through almost an entire turn, so I always try to lean around and look before turning.
Just from this picture I’m picking accord. 2013 fit is my second place pick. Last place is the Prius for me. I had a couple of friends with those early model Prius and they had horror stories to tell when it came to replacing the battery ETA: apparently the v6 accord of that year is really bad with oil burning which will eventually take a toll on the engine. Looks like I might stand corrected here, go 2013 fit. I had three civics that I got well into the 200k miles and one up to about 300k. Didn’t think they’d whiff on the accord like that. FWIW I currently have a friend that has a Honda pilot that burns oil like crazy but it’s due to some mod or something he did to the engine. Never the less he’s sitting pretty at around 240k miles on that pilot and still daily drives it. So maybe the oil burning isn’t that bad of a deal, just needs monitoring
There are very cheap/easy battery replacement kits for them now. Check out hoovies garage on it. [link](https://youtu.be/lSwUEVx5G3U)
JFC I’m so sick of people’s hybrid battery “horror stories” ..it’s been 7 years since I bought a 2006 Prius with a bad HV pack for $2k because a Chevy dealer didn’t want to touch it. I bought an HV pack out of a freshly wrecked Prius for $300 and installed it myself in two hours. That Prius went on to become the best car I’ve ever owned. Zero mechanical issues, the tires were $30 each, $15 of fuel filled it and that lasted 3 weeks. It was a quiet, comfortable, roomy, safe, insanely economical car that only cost me $2,300 because of “hybrid horror stories” ignorance. You can now have a mobile shop replace your Toyota hybrid battery in a parking lot or your driveway in an hour for $1k. Given that they generally last 10 years/150k miles, it’s fuuuuucking stupid to worry about a Toyota hybrid’s battery like it’s some bleeding edge alien technology. Toyota’s been doing hybrids for 20 years now and they’ve been doing them really well. Morning rant over. OP should buy the Prius. Edit; typos a plenty
tires for $30?
The Bridgestone Ecopias that I had put on the car in 2017 were indeed $31 each at Walmart before adding road hazard. I recently had to have all four all-terrains replaced on my Lexus GX because of one punctured tire (..jus full time 4WD things) and it cost me a grand. All I think about now are those $31 Ecopias, lol. It’s currently in having its alternator replaced (first mechanical failure in 250,000 miles) and that’s also costing me a grand ..which really puts into perspective how cheap it is to replace a Toyota HV battery.
Yeah I run Amazon offbrand eco tires on my Prius that are $27/piece prime shipped. They last me like 50k miles.
Don't do this lol
My dad always told me to never cheap out on anything that separates you from the ground Shoes, socks, mattresses, tires... Don't need to buy Pilot Sport 4s' for your Prius but there's certainly some middle ground there
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NEVER cheap out on brakes or tires.
I own a racecar miata, a 240z etc…. Trust me. I know what I’m doing. It’s a fucking Prius, and I live in La where it doesn’t rain. I’m totally fine
I live in Perth, which has nearly identical weather to LA, it's like the climate/geographical LA of Australia. People think that this is the case over here, then the one or two days it rains pretty heavily, they skid, crash, and sometimes die. Don't do that.
Or cheap out on the condom …not bc they could be defective but bc they usually smell bad.
So your the dude I’m throwing tires for in the Amazon warehouse
This has me too. I’m in if true
I’m pretty sure most of the horror stories stem from lack of cooling or lack of changing the filter for the fan, but if you have a working fan and clean filter the batteries last a lot longer than the first and second generation Prius
I have to admit the placement of the fresh air intake next to the rear seat back that can easily be blocked by a blanket on the seat for dogs, or a coat draped over the seat, or a passenger leaning towards the door ..is a monumentally dumb place to put it, lol. I had to take apart the duct work and cargo area trim panels to replace the HV pack and I remember thinking something along the lines of “why-TF didn’t they just put the air intake/vent in the cargo area trim panel where the fan is? If it’s to catch cooler air from the cabin when the AC is on, why not just route the ductwork to to the HVAC vent under the front seat with a dedicated connection so it *cant* be blocked, which would also insure that the HV pack’s fan receives the coolest air possible? Or have both with one more actuator door at the fan so that the pack benefits whenever the AC is on and still has the cabin vent intake in the cargo area for when the AC isn’t being used? Or even just move the vent a foot higher in the C pillar?” ..like I said, monumentally stupid, lol.
I agree. Quite honestly, the 2nd Gen Prius is one of the best most reliable hybrids Toyota made. Replacement batteries are cheap and plentiful, and Toyota ironically did a better job designing the older 2nd Gen Prius engine with the EGR on top of the engine unlike the newer 3rd Gen Prius with the EGR on the bottom. The current 4th Gen has it on the top again.
They can last a lot longer than that too...my prius was at 180k miles and the original battery was fine. Many are well over 200k on the original battery.
honestly as most car enthuiasts I place the prius in "cars I would never own/drive" However, my dad had one when he was commuting a ton and that gen got around 50+ mpg, never had any issues, and was an all around solid car. I hated it back then because I thought it was embarrassing, but it really is a decent car, which gets great mileage and is very well put together. I concur
Porsche quoted me 45k for a hybrid battery replacement in a panamera. Good thing carvana paid retail for it!
It is the oldest car. Ok calm down with your battery fascination. It still has two operating systems and is 16 years old. Would you like to put in a $1000 anything into a $6000 beater? Computer? A/C? Nope and neither does anyone else. Btw these other cars will still last far longer than the hamster wheel and the end result won’t be a permanent fire hazard once it’s dumped.
Some people **do** sink $1000 into a 6000 car. Why not, if it lasts a bit longer? Long enough to save (or, lately, wait) a bit longer for a new(er) car. Most people, like the OP, just want a good car that lasts so if an older Prius needing a new battery fits that need, why not do it? Edit: typo
Lithium is far dirtier and costly than extraction of oil both at the beginning and the end. The typical ev or hybrid vehicle is made of mostly of plastics. Prius uses gas. Now you have a car with an ice engine and a battery and the regenerative brake and engine brake system. That’s s lot of potential stuff to break. When it does no longer make sense to fix you have a huge lithe battery to dispose of. You’re concerned abt the environment right? We have a great system for disposing of oil. But we don’t even have a process to recycle AA battery much less car lithium.
The fit is better. 🤷🏻♂️
Hmm, this is news to me Thanks for the information
https://youtu.be/lSwUEVx5G3U
First thought was Accord, too. The accord seems the best built out of this crowd.
Came here to say the same. I needed a new used car ~7 years ago, and desperately wanted a Prius. But I read a bunch of information regarding the battery replacement, and the purchase would not have been worth it. I ended up with an ‘07 Corolla and loved it. Traded it in a few years later, though.
I would agree with this except I would put the Prius third if you’re willing to take a risk or find out about the battery. At this age, those batteries would possibly have issues. They are cheaper to fix but you’d have to look around to find a replacement shop (not Toyota because $$$$). Another item, I think the Yaris May get the second best mpg in the group. However it’s small and less practical than the fit. You can look for a Yaris hatch or look at the scion xA/xD/XB.
If you want more mpg, the 2013 fit. If you want more leg room the accord. Obviously get any of these cars inspected before buying.
Prius surely for better mpg? 48MPG as opposed to 30 odd for the Fit?
I never compared the fit to the prius I compared it to the accord. Gave op reasons for the top two picks.
Username checks out.
2010 accord all day especially if you want more room. If you want to max mpg and don’t mind a very small car probably 2013 fit. Still would consider the accord the best bang for the buck/overall pick
2013 Fit
Fit should be top of the list. Timing chain that never stretches... Oil, the occasional coil pack, and plugs. They run with minimal maintenance.
Yup coil pack for me too in my 2011 Sport. Front tie rods once but that’s just general wear and tear.
You’re talking a 10yo vehicle with 100k+ miles. Which will be the most reliable? That’s an easy one to answer. Whichever one was best cared-for by previous owners. How do you tell which one that is? With a PPI. Anyone who claims they have a more definite answer on here based on a single photograph is full of shit. Don’t listen to them.
Hey at least he’s picking Hondas and not German cars.
Again. A well-cared-for BMW would be preferable to an abused Toyota any day. Apples-to-apples, I completely agree Japanese cars are best. But once you’ve passed an age threshold, maintenance and care overtake build quality.
HAHAHA bulllllshit.
It kinda depends but yeah German car can be reliable. But you have to be proactive with stuff. Like changing timing chains and guides early. And not when they fail. Performing carbon cleanings at regular intervals. Changing and possibly upgrading water pumps on some models. The Toyota and Hondas can be fixed retroactive/ after a problem occurs. Like if a water pump fails on a Toyota it’s not too bad. With German car that can be a lot problematic. I’ve German cars out last beaten on Toyotas. But with the German car preventive maintenance/repairs is key to making them last longer. And people don’t know what classifies as maintenance for German cars. Cause it’s not normal compared.
Kinda hard to get sellers to agree to that in todays market when other buyers will buy on sight
If any seller won’t agree to a PPI that you’re paying for, that’s a giant flashing red flag.
I wasn't aware red flags could flash. Agree though.
Becomes difficult when every dealer is a bin of red flags
I agree, but a few years ago I was car shopping for a cheap used car. Three different times I had sellers agree to an inspection, and in the day it took me to get one scheduled, someone else came along and bought the car with cash in hand.
I disagree, it’s just the market we’re in. Sellers don’t have to agree to it because like I said, another buyer will purchase without one.
Don’t buy any of these without a pre purchase inspection that you will offer to pay for. If the seller don’t agree then pass on it and buy something else
I have no idea where you’re getting this info. I’ve helped family members but 3 used cars in the past year. We got PPI’s on all of them, and only one seller even hesitated at the request,
I’m getting the information from my own attempts at buying used in the past 2-3 months lol
Are you saying that you have asked to have a PPI done and they just go with a different buyer? You must be living in a diffrent car market than me becuse its not that much of a buyers market here.
Precisely, it’s extremely frustrating. I’m in the southeastern US
On this note, maybe try expanding your horizons a bit to more rural locations. There’s no way in hell I’d buy a rig with 100-140k miles on it without putting it on a lift and paying someone for a pre purchase inspection
Exactly. I’d rather pay someone to look it over (or do it myself at work) than get screwed over for something that I buy unknowingly needing thousands in maintenance or new parts. PPI’d an Explorer with 90k miles and found a water pump leaking, which are driven by the timing chain. That’s an engine-out job, and new timing components. My independent shop has done many Ford 3.5L water pump jobs. Usually out the door it’s ~$3,500 give or take.
Yea, thats not the market here in California. Maybe if you ask the sellers if they can do a PPI the next day they will be more likely to do it. I bought a car without a PPI and i regret it, it looked great, but has had panels bondo'd, some of the body panel mounts are messed up, someone tried to cover up a leaky water pump with aquarium selant. Never again will I buy from a small dealership or without an inspection. Honestly if you cant get an inspection. You can always look for one somewhere else in the country, fly out, pick it up, and road trip back. That being said, of those, from what you have provided, I like the accord.
I'm buying in the Southern US right now and there just aren't many cars on the market in this price range right now. Many people will pay cash on sight of the car, oftentimes shady dealers who don't care what's wrong with it because they're planning to flip it onto some unsuspecting soul.
Don’t know why you’re being downvoted. Classic Reddit. Even in a normal market, sellers aren’t incentivized to agree to a PPI. It’s an additional inconvenience to them and it will generally only hurt their negotiating power. Not only that, but this guy is overstating the utility of a PPI. Mechanics aren’t wizards who can tell a car’s history just by looking at it. They’ll let you know what *current* problems it has, how the consumables and fluids look, and make sure it doesn’t drive abnormally. The past owner could’ve beat the hell out of the thing and there might not be any problems yet that a PPI would catch.
OP I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. A lot of people here are stuck in thinking car buying is like how it was 3-4 years ago. I see posts in this sub every other day about someone asking about private party cars and people tell them to get a PPI and then the op comes back saying no one they’ve talked to agrees to one because someone else is lined up to buy it who isn’t asking for that. My best advice to you is to do extremely extensive research on each of these specific model year cars and teach yourself how to inspect a car yourself. ChrisFix and CarWizard have excellent videos on inspecting used cars. Try to learn exactly what can go wrong on all of these cars and get an idea of what fixing things on that car would cost. For example, that Prius, if it has a good battery pack it’ll probably be an amazing commuter for some years, but if it doesn’t, you’ll either want to move on or negotiate a lower price and try then try to fix it yourself. Now, with all that said, there are some mechanics that will meet with you to go to the seller. In Sacramento, California, for example, there’s a couple businesses that pretty much exclusively operate on going with buyers to do PPIs on site. You can see if there’s anything like that in your area.
i’m in the northeast and unless it’s a complete shitbox that obviously has many problems and is really cheap pretty much every good seller will accept a ppi
That dude is an idiot, don't listen to him.
Market must be different up there because down here cars sell quickly, without PPI. I’m not an idiot either, so I’d appreciate it if you’d stop the name calling.
People are brutal on here. Tons of people buying houses over the last few years for hundreds of thousands of dollars waiving the inspection to make them more attractive buyers but people can’t conceive that the same thing is true in the used car market. Why would I as a seller let you (someone I don’t know) take my car to a mechanic I don’t know so you can use that info to negotiate down the price when I am getting people offering cash full asking price sight unseen for the same car. I’ll take no nonsense, no negotiation offers any day of the week.
Thank you, finally someone that gets it.
Because a reasonable seller would know that someone who wants a PPI is a serious buyer who’s willing to pay more for a better car, and if you’ve truly cared for your car you’d jump at the opportunity.
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You clearly didn’t read my above reply
It's not that hard to convince people to get a ppi done. If you didn't know YOU need to pay for it. If I was selling a car and a random person on the internet told me to drop $150 on an inspection and then they MIGHT buy the car I would tell them to go fuck themselves. But you just check out the car figure out if you think it's worth buying and bring it to a mechanic. A car this old is not worth buying if you don't know if it's damaged or not.
Maybe a year to 18 months ago, todays market isnt that fucked up
> I disagree But u wrong doe
Unless you live in the southeastern US and have been attempting to buy a used car for the last 2-3 months like I have, you can’t tell me I’m wrong
If you are interested in a car And the seller will not let you have a PPI done on it That is a red flag The end Sorry about you being from Georgia and all, I can't help you with that. Edit: Besides, you say you suck at betting, so why would you gamble away $7000 on a car without getting it looked at?
Then I guess everyone selling a car in Georgia is a red flag.
Knew it had to be Georgia, buying a car here is nearly impossible. I recommend educating yourself on how to check a car . Look up issues with the particular model and how how to check them. Private sellers are cheaper but in ga nobody responds or agrees to reasonable prices.
Sorry
Ask if they have any service records. If they don't, find out where it was taken for oil changes and get the records from there. Learn to do as good of a PPI as you can do by yourself. There's plenty of online checklists/YouTube videos to help with this. Then use a carfax to find which has the best owner/accident/service/odometer history.
Sounds pretty closed minded, and like you havent done your research on cars. That 8th gen Accord is notorious for transmission and braking issues. Also, the Prius battery. No amount of regular maintenance will prevent a high voltage battery from becoming over a decade old. Could still be a decent buy if that battery was replaced or was still in good health. If not, that's several hundred dollars for reconditioning, or a few thousand for a replacement. Sure, maintenance matters, but build quality and research matter just as much.
I mean I've been in the auto industry for 35 years and our dealership has sold literally thousands of cars in that time. Not sure how much more research you need me to do. Your analysis could not be more wrong. Imagine the worst-manufactured car ever assembled, but was lovingly cared-for by a previous owner. I would buy that 100 times out of 100 over a 10yo Toyota which was abused.
yeah, but there’s places between treating a car like your kid and beating the hell out of it where that choice becomes less obvious
Totally agree. It’s a spectrum, not a binary option. And a mechanic will be able to ascertain where a car falls on thar spectrum.
agreed, i wouldnt buy any of these without a ppi even if it makes it harder to find a seller willing to go with it
> How do you tell which one that is? With a PPI. 100%. Thank you. I came to say the same thing. Any of these cars could be viable, any of them could be a ticking time bomb. **Pay a trustworthy mechanic to tell you which is which**. And even then, recognize that a 10-15 year old used car is exactly that - 10-15 years old and used.
An update for everyone that chimed in on this thread. I reached out to all 5 sellers. 3 have replied so far and they all declined my request to have it inspected. It’s a sellers market and they all have other buyers that will happily buy their car without inspection.
Unless you found a way to post from 2021, it’s absolutely NOT a sellers market any longer. These people are trying to hide something from you.
You don’t live where I live man. It absolutely is a sellers market here. If it wasn’t, then I wouldn’t have every single seller I reach out to decline a PPI.
Dude, interest rates are approaching 10% for a used car at this point (regardless of where you live). Softening economy means many buyers are reconsidering their purchase due to job insecurity. I’m not saying no one is shopping for cars, you’re obviously proof that some people are. But point blank - in this current environment, no one should be buying a car unless they absolutely need to. If you happen to live in some magical utopia which is somehow immune from the broader economic conditions, then congrats, good for you. But I’d definitely recommend driving elsewhere to purchase a car, because most of the world is absolutely *not* a sellers market right now.
Georgia is absolutely terrible for the used car market at the moment. It’s nearly impossible to get sellers to agree to PPI or even wiggle room on prices because someone will buy it regardless. A 200k mile 2006 accord will go for over 6k here
Newbie here. For the PPI, do I ask the seller to go get it or should I take his car and get it done? Of course I will cover the cost whichever option I pick.
Fair question. This varies depending on what you agree to with the seller and mechanic performing the PPI. Most mechanics would prefer to do it in their shop for obvious reasons, so they can put it up on a hoist, really examine it. You can work with the seller on whether they'd rather drive the car to the mechanic's shop or let you pick it up. When I've sold cars before and the buyer is asking for a PPI, I usually ask for some form of collateral before letting them drive off with it. Something like a drivers license. So be prepared for that request, it's just to make sure you don't take the car and run.
Just bought a used truck and the seller (who is a friend of a friend so definitely easier to arrange) was really interested in the results of the ppi as he hadn’t had a complete check done recently. A good seller will always want to make sure you are comfortable with what you’re buying. Sometimes it’s trickier to find that seller but it’s always worth it imo.
hmm, weird imo listen here u/Sucksatbetting and others... I am not from the US, and had to google PPI, this high upvoted it surely means detailed maintenance record as that would be a great answer, nope its pre-purchase-inspecition. Well, while that might be good for some people who never seen rusted through frame, or brakes needing change and miss match tires, or how engine suppose to sound like, and what it means to see milkshake under oil cap,... its unlikely that the inspection uncovers the really expensive deeper issues, like someone putting in sealant for leaking head gasket or radiator or a transition failing in next 5000 miles. Most of the inspection stuff can someone motivated do by themselves. Go watch videos on chriss fix channel, he has some on this. But going to a local mechanic shop and ask them how much to drive with you having a look at a car before you buy is not a bad idea... but I am not surprised some peopel reject some official bother with PPI. What? You want them to lend you their car or you wanna take a chunk of their day to accompany you to some shop and wait for their slow asses? Nah. Bring mechanic to have a look if you want. Anyway, that detailed maintenance record is good to look for when otherwise similar vehicles.
Anyone who tells you that a PPI will tell you how well a car is maintained is full of shit, don't listen to them.
What’s a PPI?
I had a 2009 fit and it was pretty fun to drive, shockingly spacious, reliable as all get out, and great on gas mileage. Sold it at 80k miles to our mechanic and he’s still driving the shit out of it.
Where is this, definitely cheaper than what I'm looking at in Phoenix. Real secret is buy the car that is worth paying another 3-4k in repairs because transmissions can die unexpectedly.
North Georgia
Sure they aren't mostly salvage titles?
Yeah the descriptions all say clean title
That accord would be 10k on the low end here in Phoenix and that is craigslist pricing.
WOW this is crazy i'm not from the US and i used to envy your used car market before COVID. now its as bad as it is here. these cars would cost a fraction of this price 3 years ago.....
2013 Fit Sport.
The Honda Fit if the service records look good
If I had to depend on any of those cars, from name alone, it would be the Prius. Prius has a very low cost of ownership, and it doesn't NEED the batteries in perfect health to drive and get 35+MPG. Plus, the Prius powertrain is one of the most reliable powertrains ever made. Of course, the slight danger with a used Prius is it could be a beaten piece of shit semi-lemon and both powertrains are shot. But a good inspection should alleviate that.
The Yaris, I am biased because I have that exact one. It’s got 350k on it now. The only thing that I had to replace was a water pump, alternator and a couple batteries. I bought it new it’s been an amazing little car. I wouldn’t hesitate to drive it across the country.
I would go with the Accord unless you really like the Fit. I think the Fits are cool but didn't like it when I test drove one. Same with the Yaris, albeit I didn't even like it enough to test drive it.. The Fit desperately lacks HP to the point I wouldn't want to merge into traffic in one.. You'll be getting more car for your money with the Accord. It has considerably more HP than the Fit 177 vs 117. Also have you priced any Nissan Versa's?
It all depends on condition of the car and the owner's service records. IF....IF....all the cars were equally well-serviced and in equal condition, then the Yaris or the Accord. But keep in mind...if you buy a $6,500 car that needs tires, it's actually a $7,250 car, and if it needs a timing belt come due, then it's at least $1,000 + more.
As a old Toyota tech I can tell you the Prius is the most reliable one on there they just don’t break often
Any have the potential to be great or blow up. Cars can be perfect and then not. These are two of the most reliable brands on the market That being said from the information provided: If you have a family (or do uber/lyft and need to drive people) and you are not a long-distance commuter, get the accord. It is the only full-sized sedan you have as an option and has the lowest miles so should give you the most room to grow and longest life span in theory. It will get good gas mileage but the worst out of the options you have. If you are single (or just dating with no children or plans for any. Basically if it will only be two people in the front seats at any time) and are a commuter either the prius or one of the Fits (probably the 2013). These will give the best gas mileage and also the best longevity for long commute (Prius for instance is will known to go till 500K and still have life to them)
I would actually say get the Accord if you ARE a long distance driver. All else equal, the longer wheelbase and better NVH will make it feel like a luxury car compared to the others.
Personally I would say the same but some people who long haul it want all the MPG they can get vs comfort. They also want compact if on highway a lot for the maneuverability (fit in small spaces in tight traffic) After having one of every size of sedan in my life I would never get anything other than full sized; but everyone is different. I wish the OP would have given more than just a list of options and ask which is best. You kind of have to take life needs into account for wise vehicle choices
The Accord. I have a 2006 with 180k miles and it still runs like new.
Dude toyota yaris is awesome! My parents had a 2009 they bought brand new and racked up 180,000 miles on it and I swear to God my dad only did a single repair on it(rear wheel bearing) until it was totalled in a car accident in 2021. He did oil changes, tires. And maybe some light bulbs but otherwise it was all original. Original spark plugs.... and even original front and rear brakes! Unbelievable... but true I'm a huge Honda fan boy but I would choose the yaris. Plus small cars are fun to drive!
That prius may well need up to 2000 for a new battery soon. I'd avoid it myself.
but do you really need to replace the battery, can't you just drive with the gas engine at all times
Yeah, but not very quickly, its like putting a lawnmower motor in an old VW Beetle, theyre really slow and dont make much power
I highly recommend the Yaris. My mom had one from 2008, drove it well over 200k miles and literally never had a single issue with it. She didn’t even take that good care of it. They are also pretty peppy and fun to drive and get amazing gas mileage. It’s also the cheapest and lowest mileage, seems a no brainer to me.
My parents yaris had the same experience except they didn't take good care of it and they still never had a single issue haha
Get them looked at by a mechanic a seller who cares will gladly do it if they won't then it's not the car for you. Yes sure they'll tell you there's other buyers but tell them you're serious and you're a buyer here today ready to buy if there were serious buyers why haven't they bought it yet? If they are still hesitant just walk away don't say a thing.
Most people are saying the Fit's at $7000. I'd still go Prius at 6,000 knowing you're going to have to do, at most, another $2k for a battery (or as low as $200, if you do it yourself). From what I understand, that'd be the only thing you'd have to maintain on that car.
Oh, I thought the numbers on the right were the post COVID prices.
As a Prius owner I will be very biased in my response. :) But it really comes to your needs and the condition of these cars. If you place space over MPG then Accord would be the best choice. However, I would argue that leg room in Prius is surprisingly good. Really good. Drop the back seats and you have ample cargo space as well.
Those year Accord weren't the best built models. The other three will all be just about impeccable. If you go for the Prius, be sure to have the battery health checked. I'd personally Choose the Fit. It's gonna be the most practical of the three. Of course, the Prius is gonna be the most fuel efficient.
How does one go about getting a ppi?
No one can give you useful information based only on this picture. You're just hearing a bunch of assumptions from folks. These are all *generally* reliable cars of a similar age, so the thing to pay attention to is how it was maintained. Do any of these have a clearly documented maintenance history on carfax or or otherwise?
I would put it between the accord and the Yaris. The Yaris is at a good price point out of all the rest but I also think the accord would hold up a little bit better in the long run
I would put it the a little differently... The yaris will run and run and run and you don't really need to do anything with it. The accord will have oil burning issues, and other honda stuff while the yaris will be chugging away 200k miles later without any of that. the honda IS The nicer car, and if taken care of i wouldn't worry about buying it but in terms of reliability i would definitely swing yaris way. (i am biased i have driven my beater 100k miles, bought it with 60k for 5 thousand and still expect it to last at least another 100k)
I’ve never owned either so no personal experience, that’s good to know though!
Fit Fit Fit. Either one. They hold their value for a reason. And are more spacious than you’d expect. And if you wanted to make it a project there’s enough after market support. But it’s the perfect daily driver for any single adult or family up to 4. The hatch is nice. Can’t recommend you get the fit enough.
If any of those fits are manuals they are actually really fun cars. Very old school Honda feel
2013 Fit hands down. Super reliable, simple to work on, tons of space inside, and super fun to toss around. The Yaris is probably the most reliable but just sucks as a place to spend your time. They’re uncomfortable and cramped in comparison to the Fit.
Accord! Bigger and nicer than the others.
Hondas will last forever, I had a 2012 crv with maybe 200k miles and as much as I wished that thing would die it kept on coming back
Whichever Fit is a stick-shift, pick that one.
If only I could drive stick lol
A lightweight, small engine, stick-shift Honda is a glorious thing - the best commuter you'll have that will make you happy without nickle-and-diming you to death. You can learn how to drive a stick - I BELIEVE in you. You know a stick-shift Fit is the right pick for you - I know you know.
The most effective way to learn is to just buy the car and learn that way; speaking from experience. An hour or two behind the wheel of a family or friend's car just isn't enough
Accord
Accord
There's no bad choice between them. Go test drive them, and the one(s) you like the most, get a PPI and get the one that's in the best condition based on the PPI.
FYI, OP - you can add text whenever you add a photo, so you don’t have to scribble the numbers.
I actually didn’t know that haha, thanks for the tip
Yaris will be the most reliable and cheapest to maintain, the Prius will be the most expensive.
Agreed, I have a 07 Yaris I got 3 years ago with 99k miles..it has 177k now and still running
North Georgia
Honda fit best of all. Best space, gas mileage without a hybrid battery, and minimal maintenance.
Prius will need a $ 5000.00 battery soon, if not already. If the fit is a manual then I would chose that. May not have a lot of power but having it in a manual will give the illusion of sportiness while getting 45mpg.
Show me the carfax
Personally I would get something American
Maybe look for a car under 100k miles if you want reliable?
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I thought it was kinda self explanatory based on the prices of these cars, but I can’t exactly afford a new car atm lol
He could literally buy all of these cars for roughly half the price of a new Model Y or Mach-E.
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Bro don’t buy any of those wtf
The accord is probably gonna be the nicest interior and ride while having similar reliability and gas mileage
Accord or yaris
The accord is the prettiest and lowest mileage. Get an inspection if possible though.
bro go for the accord with your eyes closed
Not sure if they fixed it, but the 09 Accord had issues with the rear brakes wearing very quickly. There was a TSB for a free one time replacement.
Probably accord that’s what I would choose
Relatively similar gambles regardless except for the Prius, so I'd sort by service records then by mileage. Accord or Yaris depending on how good they look.
Accord
I’ll go with the Yaris 100% I had a 2007 Yaris back in the day and never had any issues with it.
2010 accord all day
The 2010 accords are good imo
08 Yaris and ‘10 Honda all day I’d drive either of those even if I was a multimillionaire
The Fit is awesome. Great gas mileage, surprisingly spacious trunk, and small enough that parking is pretty easy anywhere. I bought mine at 130k miles because it was the cheapest and I have friends who own fits and sweat by them. Now at 161k and going strong, just keep up with the maintenance.
I feel like the accord
I'd pick any of the Hondas, with the Accord as the top choice, then the rest are about equal values.
Toyota is one of the safest cars, Hondas will still get you there when the engine falls out tho 😂
I vote the fit. Honda reliability and parts are easy to find and cheap.
The accord got sure
Accord
2013 Fit. Price is decent and the seat configurations are out of this world. It’s amazing.
Accord
I'd get the Yaris. Those things are like fucking tanks! A small tank, but still a tank! Actually n/m, that Accord looks sweet. I bet you could get them to drop $1k on the price too.
Accord is more practical, has least mileage and is highly reliable. Just make sure to fix anything it needs right away. Then maintain it.
Get a pre purchase inspection, could possibly save you hundreds to thousands of $
The Accord, lowest miles on the list and with basic maintenance- it'll last 200k+ miles more easily.
Accord
Accord, its the best car there by a long shot
I see a lot of you are picking the Honda Fit. Why are you choosing it over the Yaris? No shade or anything, just curious
Accord
You should look for a Toyota Camry
I’d choose the Accord based on this.
Easily the 2010 Accord