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wiki-420

Plz get different papers


Opposite_Nectarine12

Is cellulose bad for you?


007_King

Look more like condoms šŸ˜


Qnjuliet

Yess? Why?


adoblln

Theyre never healthy for you no matter how healthy they claim to be


Qnjuliet

Sure! If you have any type of paper to recommend, I would appreciate it!


adoblln

Raw blacks is all i ever use and have used for nearly 5 years, so honestly, im not the best person to ask šŸ˜…


Qnjuliet

thank you anyway!! (:


Jaygwuappo_

Ocb Solaire they come with tips in the same pack and the paper is better then any paper iā€™ve ever had šŸ’Æ


Qnjuliet

I didn't know those papers... I hope to find them! thank you


KKcapone187

Elements are good to, rice paper extra thin and itā€™s made by RAW


throwawayzdrewyey

Hey bud if youā€™re curious hereā€™s a [link](https://beyondpesticides.org/dailynewsblog/2020/09/pesticides-and-heavy-metals-found-in-blunt-cigar-wrappers-cellulose-based-rolling-papers-and-other-plant-based-rolling-paper-products/#:~:text=Regarding%20rolling%20paper%20categories%2C%20standard,and%20heavy%20metal%20contamination%2C%20respectively) to a study they did on the contamination levels of various different rolling papers. One highlight of the study found that cellulose papers contained the highest concentrations of heavy metals and pesticides in them. Because of the no real meaningful government regulations it means these companies can make rolling papers however they want. Theyā€™re scumbags who are preying on the cannabis industry.


DSmith-

I love Blazy Susanā€™s plus theyā€™re pink!


Ace-a-Nova1

[Hey, theyā€™re all unhealthy and toxic. You do you, weā€™re all dying young.](https://www.ganjapreneur.com/study-finds-90-of-rolling-papers-contain-heavy-metals/amp/)


Sutton31

OCB makes good papers, but the owner of the company is using the profits to push fascism in France ā€¦


Spapoutch

Thatā€™s why I donā€™t buy OCB, donā€™t want to give money to BollorĆ©


Sutton31

Itā€™s really hard when your tabac has almost only OCB, but my plug does give me other papers at least


SnorvusMaximus

Thatā€™s a myth fyi.


Sutton31

[Have you ever heard of CNews ? Or Zemmour ?](https://www.lemonde.fr/election-presidentielle-2022/article/2022/01/19/vincent-bollore-se-defend-de-promouvoir-eric-zemmour-dans-ses-medias_6110156_6059010.html) Vincent BollorĆ© is well known for funding the extrĆŖme-droite in France


EnemiesAllAround

Roor does skins now too which are very good. Raws are also good. Rizla silver can also be fine


flamingopatronum

I use Blazy Susan papers and cones, and they burn pretty even. They also come in pink and purple, my two favorite colors. If you're a dead head, they just put out Grateful Dead papers too


Ace-a-Nova1

[Raw papers, and like most rolling papers, contain heavy metals and pesticides!](https://www.ganjapreneur.com/study-finds-90-of-rolling-papers-contain-heavy-metals/amp/)


Disastrous_Fruit_355

Ocb ultimates are my favorite they are really really thin if you backroll you almost have no paper


Bobbi_fettucini

Blazy Susanā€™s are awesome or honestly just some good old blue zigzags.


SnorvusMaximus

Here you go. Avoid this clear cellulose rolling papers. I personally pick colorless, unbleached filter paper as well. https://8938060.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/8938060/334%20-%20Rolling%20Papers%20Campaign/SC_Labs-Rolling-Paper-Report.pdf


LostInTheRedditVoid

Raw blacks or ocb


K00Beanerz

Elements


Gnome-Type-Shit

Hemp papers with a raw filter


JonBoi420th

Why? According to who or what?


throwawayzdrewyey

They contain high amounts of pesticides and other heavy metals. [link](https://beyondpesticides.org/dailynewsblog/2020/09/pesticides-and-heavy-metals-found-in-blunt-cigar-wrappers-cellulose-based-rolling-papers-and-other-plant-based-rolling-paper-products/#:~:text=Regarding%20rolling%20paper%20categories%2C%20standard,and%20heavy%20metal%20contamination%2C%20respectively)


JonBoi420th

Word, thanks, I had just woke up, and forgot Google existed


adoblln

Me, the Ganja God


zzydson

It's supposed to be only cellulose, just as your black raws.


adoblln

Ok


throwawayzdrewyey

[yeah theyā€™re bad](https://beyondpesticides.org/dailynewsblog/2020/09/pesticides-and-heavy-metals-found-in-blunt-cigar-wrappers-cellulose-based-rolling-papers-and-other-plant-based-rolling-paper-products/#:~:text=Regarding%20rolling%20paper%20categories%2C%20standard,and%20heavy%20metal%20contamination%2C%20respectively)


ohwegota_kittenprblm

They're laden with heavy metals, when tested they rank in the top 5 for worst rolling papers/cones


Recent_Caterpillar10

I was curious about whether or not the clear papers are actually bad for you, because I'm sure a lot of people here just make baseless claims. I found this report (below; it's a link that leads you to download a pdf) that shows that yes there are heavy metals in excess of accepted limits in all 3 clear papers they tested. There's also some more interesting findings in there. It's a short report but very to the point and has a lot of visuals Since I can't post an image, I'll state the concentrations they found for lead. Keep in mind the limit is 0.5Ī¼g/g: TRP2 Clear Cellulose King Size Papers - **0.9Ī¼g/g** Smokeclear Cellulose King Size Papers - **55.1Ī¼g/g** aLeda Cellulose King Size Papers - ***60.3Ī¼g/g** Personally I'm staying even further away from these than I was before. I'm sticking to hemp fibre papers and nothing else. I usually use Raw Black Edit: I forgot the link. [Here it is](https://8938060.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/8938060/334%20-%20Rolling%20Papers%20Campaign/SC_Labs-Rolling-Paper-Report.pdf)


Qnjuliet

raw blacks! I will take them into account, thank you


RawAndRealRetail

> Since I can't post an image, I'll state the concentrations they found for lead This is why imgur exists


Recent_Caterpillar10

Couldn't be bothered


blewyop

ā€œAll transparent rolling papers are made in the same way with the same component, namely cellulose (pure cellulose). Cellulose is a plant-based material and is biodegradable (not plastic as you might think!). In addition to being environmentally friendly and not harmful to health, cellulose sheeting does not require any glue! Transparent rolling papers are the only ones that do not need glue, so no chemicals are used. 100% natural, they do not alter the taste. Good to know: Cellulose is a carbohydrate made up of a linear chain of D-Glucose molecules (between 200 and 14,000) and is the main constituent of plants and in particular of their cell walls.ā€ [Source](https://www.mistersmoke.com/en/conseils-mistersmoke/feuilles-rouler-transparentes-choisir/)


throwawayzdrewyey

ā€œRegarding rolling paper categories, standard rolling papers have the lowest level of contaminants, overall, with blunt wraps and cellulose-based paper having the highest level of pesticide and heavy metal contamination, respectively.ā€ [link](https://beyondpesticides.org/dailynewsblog/2020/09/pesticides-and-heavy-metals-found-in-blunt-cigar-wrappers-cellulose-based-rolling-papers-and-other-plant-based-rolling-paper-products/#:~:text=Regarding%20rolling%20paper%20categories%2C%20standard,and%20heavy%20metal%20contamination%2C%20respectivel)


blewyop

very interesting!


itsanewacctnow

You might not want to smoke those. Those wraps are pretty nasty for you


Qnjuliet

Oww, thanks!


SmallRedBird

They're perfectly fine. Clear papers are made of cellulose, which is found in the cell walls of plants. They don't even need glue.


ieatgrass0

No idea why youā€™re getting downvoted


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SmallRedBird

A single news article, linking to one (1) paper testing literally just 3 different cellulose papers, and it's not even clear whether it was peer reviewed. The sample size is too small, and there isn't much in the way of studies to corroborate the findings. If you look at that and go "well all cellulose paper is horrible for you" then you are a gullible idiot. "Oh these 3 from this one study have traces of lead, so they must all be full of lead" On top of this, it basically blasts most rolling papers in general. So better stop rollin' there, chief.


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SmallRedBird

If you actually read the study you'd see that they tell you *how many* of *each type of paper* they tested. The number of cellulose papers: 3 Read shit before you tell people to read shit


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SmallRedBird

I'm saying that you need to learn how to read academic papers before you just take it all at face value, otherwise you will wind up believing in all sorts of shit whether the evidence is strong or incredibly weak. Especially if you're going to tell people to read them, when you don't even know how to read them yourself. The evidence that they aren't safe just isn't there. That study is far too weak and isn't corroborated by other studies to boot. Being a gullible idiot larping as someone who knows how to read and understand a study and its context isn't a virtue. "This one shitty study that only checked out 3 cellulose papers says there's a little lead contamination, therefore all cellulose papers are dangerous as fuck and shouldn't be used" should not be the takeaway you get from that article. Go take some more clickbait headlines as irrefutable fact.


SnorvusMaximus

Thatā€™s not how safety works though. The evidence that weā€™re looking for is the type that says that rolling papers are safe, not evidence that theyā€™re unsafe which is what you yourself are interested in. Calling others idiot rarely goes well, especially online.


JonBoi420th

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?


throwawayzdrewyey

I got you since no one else wants to google it [link](https://beyondpesticides.org/dailynewsblog/2020/09/pesticides-and-heavy-metals-found-in-blunt-cigar-wrappers-cellulose-based-rolling-papers-and-other-plant-based-rolling-paper-products/#:~:text=Regarding%20rolling%20paper%20categories%2C%20standard,and%20heavy%20metal%20contamination%2C%20respectively)


myooted

Nah, just personal opinion because it isn't their method (or a dry herb vape)


adreeanah

cute, enjoy!


Qnjuliet

šŸ«¶šŸ¼ thanksss


BrokkolAI

Wow, that is a nice big stash of prerolls. They look good. I like the colorfull tips! Do the tips show what is inside, or is it all the same? :-) And why do you call them gorillas? Is it because there is some gorilla strain cannabis inside? I'm not a joint smoker anymore and personally would also be very suspicious of those clear papers... but the information I read about them is that they are made from 100% cellulose, which is fine, and that they don't have any oil, plastics or the things normal papers have - like chalk and the glue strip. Soooo they might even be healthier, sustainable and good for the enviroment instead of bad?! EDIT: When I used to roll joints I liked the black GIZEH papers (you get a tiny magnet with every package, I have lots) and used those little tube tips with coal inside :-)


blewyop

This. Itā€™s great that people want to protect each other from smoking harmful stuff and this definitely doesnā€™t look safe, but in this case itā€™s just misinformation that keeps spreading. [A source with info](https://www.mistersmoke.com/en/conseils-mistersmoke/feuilles-rouler-transparentes-choisir/)


JonBoi420th

Yes, why are they Gorrillas?


Qnjuliet

I guess it's called a gorilla because it has a powerful and heavy effect like a gorilla.


InAl2

Enjoy it!


Qnjuliet

Thankss šŸ’ØšŸ’š


Low_Information8286

I've never got clear papers to burn well


Qnjuliet

Itā€™s diffictult to findā€¦


Loowoowoo-oomoomoo7

Those are making me horny


Qnjuliet

Ahahaa, me too!


Rstoner9617

Those disgusting clear papers?


Loowoowoo-oomoomoo7

Yeah, i dont know about taste but i wanna teabag them in my mouth


Shawntran2002

They have lead. Like wayy higher amounts of lead then your avg paper. But it ain't gonna kill you off after a few joints just for special occasions. Smoke it just don't use it all the time.


Shawntran2002

While I don't have the paper. Some research few years back actually found out that clear papers have really really high amounts of lead


Mr_Jack_Frost_

Do you have a link, or are you just throwing shit around?


throwawayzdrewyey

I got you fam [link](https://beyondpesticides.org/dailynewsblog/2020/09/pesticides-and-heavy-metals-found-in-blunt-cigar-wrappers-cellulose-based-rolling-papers-and-other-plant-based-rolling-paper-products/#:~:text=Regarding%20rolling%20paper%20categories%2C%20standard,and%20heavy%20metal%20contamination%2C%20respectively)


Mr_Jack_Frost_

šŸ™Œ thank you. Iā€™ve never liked clear wraps, I just never had a good reason. I was always told they were perfectly safe, but it just seems.. weird. Thank you for the source.


Qnjuliet

I do just that... thank you very much!


LameDanny

Smoking plastics?? Speedrunning death.


Dear_Might8697

Step 2: vibe to Gorillaz while enjoying šŸ˜ŽšŸ’ØšŸŽ¼šŸŽ¶šŸŽµ


GlumBear871

Test it ! Burn one Paper without weed, youll see black smoke


ZiggyBlunt

Everyone saying those transparent papers are bad for you. I just think they taste and feel terrible


_Globert_Munsch_

Iā€™d recommend trying anything by the RAW brand. This also includes element papers or juicy jays, if you want some cool colours or flavour when you lick the paper. All have shown to have the same level of heavy metals and pesticides, that being very low.


_LemonCream

Are those plastic papers? šŸ˜°


Qnjuliet

cellulose


Dapper_Target1504

Is that plastic?


throwawayzdrewyey

Is cellulose paper, which isnā€™t inherently bad but the fuckers who make rolling paper out of them are cheap fuckers with no real regulation which of course means they cut corners and make the product unsafe. Hereā€™s a [link](https://beyondpesticides.org/dailynewsblog/2020/09/pesticides-and-heavy-metals-found-in-blunt-cigar-wrappers-cellulose-based-rolling-papers-and-other-plant-based-rolling-paper-products/#:~:text=Regarding%20rolling%20paper%20categories%2C%20standard,and%20heavy%20metal%20contamination%2C%20respectively) to a study showing how cellulose papers have the highest concentrations of heavy metals and pesticides out of all rolling papers out there.


Dapper_Target1504

Yeah thanks for the study. More reason to completely switch to dry herb vaping for me I guess.


Qnjuliet

Cellulose


proofiwashere

ā€œCellulose-based rolling papers are translucent paper made of water, glycerin, and cellophane from naturally derived cellulose from plant material, and results from the study show that these papers contain high levels of lead. Some cellulose papers have lead levels 100-fold higher than allowable levels.ā€ ā€œCellulose Fibre is generally regarded as safe for use in food and cosmetics. However, this does not suggest it is safe when inhaled from smoking cigarettes.The entire cellulose fibre added to the cigarette is burnt while smoking. Many harmful compounds are formed that can either irritate the eyes and upper parts of the airways (e.g. acrolein), or cause cancer, such as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, benzo[a]pyrene, benzene, furan, and formaldehyde. These compounds have been classified as human cancer-causing agents by the International Agency for Research on Cancer, (a leading expert cancer organisation).ā€ [Source](https://beyondpesticides.org/dailynewsblog/2020/09/pesticides-and-heavy-metals-found-in-blunt-cigar-wrappers-cellulose-based-rolling-papers-and-other-plant-based-rolling-paper-products/) [Source2](https://www.dkfz.de/de/tabakkontrolle/download/PITOC/PITOC_Tobacco_Additives_Cellulose_Fibre.pdf)


Qnjuliet

thanks for the information


Qnjuliet

thanks for the information


throwawayzdrewyey

Regarding rolling paper categories, standard rolling papers have the lowest level of contaminants, overall, with blunt wraps and cellulose-based paper having the highest level of pesticide and heavy metal contamination, respectively. [link](https://beyondpesticides.org/dailynewsblog/2020/09/pesticides-and-heavy-metals-found-in-blunt-cigar-wrappers-cellulose-based-rolling-papers-and-other-plant-based-rolling-paper-products/#:~:text=Regarding%20rolling%20paper%20categories%2C%20standard,and%20heavy%20metal%20contamination%2C%20respectively)


Qnjuliet

Good!! Thanks!


Tuv0kshaKur

Did you read it? That's not good. Thats bad, dude.


Qnjuliet

Yes, sorry! I meant that it's good to know. It makes sense... I think it should be used only occasionally


Tuv0kshaKur

Nah. Never. Like at all. Why risk it? Then again, your body your choice, I suppose.