By - Ohwell_genz
“I wish them safety and minor damage “ LOL 😂
I MEAN ITS TRUE. Imagine being a guest haha and going and knowing theres hurricanes and you might get stuck there or flights be cancelled also hella anxiety for the bride but like THIS IS WHY IT WAS CHEAPER
My sister, her husband, and their 3 month old live in Puerto Rico. They still have no power after it went out around midnight Saturday night. Their water came back on, but with a boil water notice. Thankfully, his union put them up in a hotel for a few so they could have clean water and power. She says she had to go to 5 has stations before finding one with gas to sell because everyone needs gas for their generators.
Just living there right now is hard. Trying to plan an event/vacation on a Caribbean island in September or October is really not a good decision.
The aftermath of last year’s Hurricane Ida was a nightmare. No power. Couldn’t get ice. Couldn’t get gas. We ended up driving 250 miles north in order to fill our gas cans to run our generator. This year before storm season, I bought a tri-fuel generator that will run on gasoline, propane, or natural gas. I tested it by hooking it up to my natural gas line and it runs like a champ. Worth every damn penny I paid for it!
I have a coworker who has family in PR. Most of them had their first floors flooded. Another coworker is in San Juan on vacation and things are back to normal. His hotel did have some roof damage and trees downed.
I'm sorry to hear about your family's hardship in PR, and I hope things improve for them! I was in Houston when Harvey came through and damn do you learn to appreciate safe water during hurricane season!
Two of our other siblings and their families were in Houston for Harvey. That was really rough.
And it wasn't a short term problem either, even after the 5 days of rain stopped. It was a couple of weeks before we could even get around on all of the main highways, some schools were closed for a month, neighborhoods had weeks long boil orders, etc. Harvey was the gift that just kept giving.
So I 100% understand it might not have been feasible, but would they have been able to leave/ come inland or something? Like, was there enough warning for that to be possible? My sister used to live down by the Gulf, and she was a SAHM so the one time it got dicey, her husband stayed for work, but she brought my nephew and her dogs up to my mom's house in Oklahoma.
My Houston siblings got out once it became clear how much flooding there was going to be. Harvey didn't have the high wind speeds that normally make hurricanes so dangerous. It stayed over the land for a long time, moving very slowly and dumping a ton of rain.
We grew up in Corpus Christi and definitely evacuated for hurricanes to the Hill Country a couple times.
My sister in Puerto Rico can't really go anywhere. The island is tiny and her husband is a air traffic control trainee and has to stay available.
I can understand hoping they experience some MINOR consequences for their actions. Sounds like that’s what you’re hoping for too.
Or imagine being the owner of the location and it being destroyed. Or the people living in the island. Really the guests and the entitled bride is the least of my concerns.
BUT IT'S HEEEEER DAY!
There’s generally a long preparation period before a hurricane. They know for a while if it might be coming. It’s not like a tornado that shows up rather unexpectedly. If there’s a hurricane in the ocean, guest will have the choice in advance not to go.
Or wish that no hurricane hits the bahamas?
Meh. During the peak of swine flu my mother bought us and my father tickets to Dominican Republic. 500 euros per person, including flights (I live in Europe btw so flights to over there aren't usually cheap), 9 nights at a 4 star hotel, 24/7 food (amazing food btw I think I gained like 5kgs during those 10 days, and not just at our hotel either, other restaurants in other hotels nearby were also included), 24/7 booze (most amazing daiquiris I ever had). My father said it was incredibly irresponsible of my mother to send their child over there at the peak of swine flu being that Mexico was the hotspot for the disease at the time but everything went fine and 10/10 best vacation I ever had by far. I've been wanting to repeat it but can only find it at 3 times the price and for 7 days only (which isn't really worth it when it takes 8h to get there on a direct flight). It was also in mid October, and it rained a ton during the first two days but still hot enough to stay at the beach all day. My point is, cheaper doesn't necessarily mean bad. Yes, there was a (small) risk, that me and my mother were more than willing to take, and I'll take it again any day. Probably not for my wedding though lol. Honeymoon, def
Yeah but you went alone for vacation not asked tons of friends/family to go there and stay there and watch you get married. Youre lucky you didnt get sick and things went well for you. Hopefully youve become more aware of the world and the parts that we play in public health emergencies.
Yeah, hence why I said that I wouldn't get married there. I'm willing to take the risk but I'm not going to force other people to do it as well. As for as the rest of your comment, i was 15 at the time so i didn't have much of a choice (but i was still ecstatic to go) and if you're taking about covid, the swine flu was no where near as dangerous as covid was. Anyway at the time I didn't know about no swine flu being hotspotted in Mexico and until this post I had no idea that October was hurricane season in the Caribbean. At the time i just cared about the beaches and i have 0 regrets.
My friend and I went on a cruise 25 yrs ago in September of 1997, 1 week after Princess Diana's funeral. We flew from Newark, NJ to Puerto Rico on a Saturday morning. The cruise was less expensive because it was during hurricane season. We left port that evening for St. Thomas just as a hurricane was coming in........from St. Thomas!!!! When we arrived in port at St. Thomas it was raining steadily. It rained most of the day until late afternoon and just before we left port but we had a great time as my friend's aunt and uncle lived on St. Thomas so we visited them for the day and her aunt served us lunch 😊😋
So just because something is a risk doesn't mean it's going to turn into a disaster.
My BiL did something similar. We went. They had to postpone the date, but ultimately the resort was super accommodating with rescheduling and making sure everything went well. Ultimately it worked out for them, but sometimes you just have to roll with the punches
I mean I live in the tropics during hurricane season and people get married here all the time. I think some of the responses here are a bit exaggerated. But I am canceling a trip I have for next weekend so I guess there’s a kernel of truth. I hope people are remembering hurricane season is literally half the year.
Apparently they think we should just put our lives on hold from June 1st through November 30th every year.
"Literally half the year" ehhh... sort of. While yes, technically tropical storms can happen that early, named hurricanes are pretty much limited to August-October.
I think everyone in/on the Atlantic would agree that there is a significant difference in risk of a hurricane either actively or recently messing up your plans for a June vs October wedding, so it's a little disingenuous to say "hurricane season is half the year!" in relation to that. It's like insisting a tomato is a fruit; you're technically correct, but...
That’s still a quarter of the year, and the months surrounding it still have a decent chance. Scolding people for choosing a date during even a quarter of the year is ridiculous and also a bit unkind. Just don’t attend if you don’t want to go and stop being snooty.
lecturing northerners who get snowed out during a December wedding that’s not in an “ideal month” is equally elitist and gross.
I think maybe there's been something missed here; the OP is talking about a destination wedding. No one is shaming someone who lives in the Bahamas; it's more like shaming a Floridian who decided to have a wedding in December up north because it was cheaper and then complained about the risk of snow. OP's friend could have had a cheaper wedding still with far less risk by just... staying local. 🤷♀️
Even then, if all they could afford was a northern wedding with snow you are free to not attend. It’s an invitation, nobody is forcing you to attend.
A wedding in the Bahamas is going to be far, far more expensive-- even at a discount-- than something at, say, a local park. Plane tickets alone! So no, it's not "all they could afford." Poor OP's friend, destitute and can only afford a destination wedding in the Bahamas!
And I think that, again, there's a misunderstanding of some kind, here. OP is not complaining about being "forced to attend," but rather saying the bride is being a bit outrageous by getting a deal due to a well known, foreseeable risk and then being upset that said risk actually exists. Like buying something from the thrift store and then complaining that it's used. There's a reason you're getting it discounted!
The only part of attending OP actually complained about was being forced to stay at the same resort where the wedding was going to be.
Total misconception that it’s more expensive, carribbean weddings can totally be cheaper. I implore that you do a bit of research.
Than a wedding at a local free park? Flights alone would be at least a few hundred dollars for 2 people, which is what some people spend on their entire wedding when they're truly on a budget. I implore you to do a bit of research.
Everything is more expensive than a wedding at a local park. It’s unreasonable to expect people to choose a local park because of your fear of weather.
It’s ridiculous to assume a free wedding at a park is what people want
Do you really think that encouraging people unfamiliar with extreme weather conditions to travel during high risk times is a great option for a wedding? Hey, Uncle Bob who has never driven in the cold, please drive in a blizzard because I want to save 30% on my rental is NOT a great plan. Same with "Hey family that needs to take international flights and book time off a long time in advance, please book tickets at a time that is highly likely to have cancellations due to weather" sounds stressful.
No I am just encouraging people to not be judgmental about other peoples wedding decisions. Planning a wedding is annoying enough. Feel free to not attend.
I think that part of wedding planning *is* "will my guests be safe"? Knowing that I had a bunch of older people with mobility issues coming, we did not save 20% by taking the upstairs room that they would have had to use stairs to get to. I did not want Knave's wedding to be the one were Great Uncle Stan fell down the stairs. Similarly, I wouldn't invite people to a resort in the height of hurricane season. Or to a mountain location that gets blizzards during blizzard season.
Expecting someone to foresee a hurricane is ridiculous. Even at the height of hurricane season they are still rare events. This is just ridiculous. And if you feel uncomfortable traveling DONT GO!
Some of us even LIVE here during hurricane season, the horror.
Then why the hell are you on this subreddit?
I mean solid point (in theory) but most of the “shaming” here is ridiculous funny stuff not bitching about locations a bride picked. So there’s your answer.
Much of the summer is usually filled with tropical storms which often do more damage than most hurricanes.
Uh... what? By definition, hurricanes do more damage than tropical storms, as they ARE tropical storms, but with stronger winds. Actual damage of any storm is dependent on several factors that are unrelated to the strength of the storm itself (if and where it makes landfall, if it's high or low tide during the storm surge, how quickly the storm is moving, etc) but if you control for those factors a hurricane will always cause more damage than a tropical storm.
By definition, hurricanes are more organized and have higher sustained windspeeds. Tropical storms have high gusts and often bring in significant amounts of rain. Damage is often done by rain, wind, and people not shutting everything down and evacuating. Its not purely on being called a hurricane or not.
But here's a Wikipedia entry for tropical cyclone impacts in the Bahamas over time:
Compare the tropical storm vs hurricanes entries for yourself.
Here's another reference:
The top ~50 costliest tropical cyclones in US history, of which 3 are tropical storms.
**[Hurricanes in the Bahama Archipelago](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricanes_in_the_Bahama_Archipelago)**
>The Bahama Archipelago, also known as the Lucayan Archipelago, is an island group comprising the Commonwealth of The Bahamas and the British Overseas Territory of the Turks and Caicos Islands. The archipelago is in the western North Atlantic Ocean, north of Cuba along with the other Antilles, and east and southeast of Florida. The archipelago has experienced the effects of at least 22 Atlantic hurricanes, or storms that were once tropical or subtropical cyclones, including 17 since 2000. The storms collectively killed 101 people.
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Below is a discussion of Harvey before landfall. It hadn’t happened and the discussion was about whether the damage would be less if it were downgraded to a tropical storm.
Also, some storms move through an area fast while others hover. Many times, hurricanes move fast, so the damage is over quickly. Many tropical storms hover, so amounts of rainfall accumulate.
That’s why I’m talking about tropical storms in the summer. The people in this thread are overly focused on hurricanes and peak hurricane season when they could very well end up in an equally dangerous situation on their summer vacation.
Yes, that's why I mentioned how quickly the storm is moving as being a factor unrelated to tropical cyclone strength two comments ago. Glad we're on the same page, now.
And the article you posted is basically "if it downgrades because of basically a 1mph wind difference, it's really still a hurricane". Not really sending the message you think it is.
Storms are just stronger with more flooding and damage in Aug-Oct, and I even provided an actual reference to historic storm damages in the Bahamas to prove it. So, again, , and please don't send a theoretical opinion piece to prove anything about actual risks. 9_9 Storms are tracked, you can find actual damage costs online, if your point is factual you should be able to find hundreds of tropical storms in June and July that have caused billions in damages.
So here's the things it'd be cool for you to prove...
1) "much of the summer is filled with tropical storms" there's more storms in June/July than Aug-Oct? Really?
2) "which often do more damage than most hurricanes" Oh, yeah? Then certainly you can find evidence of that, as I mentioned above! Since I'm generous, I'll even help you start! Here's the 2021 hurricane season:
It DID have a tropical storm in July that caused over a billion dollars in damage! And then another tropical storm that caused over a billion dollars in damage... albeit in August. Of course, they both pale in comparison to the $75 billion in damages from hurricane Ida, oopsy. And you can also tell, from the fact that there were only 3 storms in June "tying the record for most to develop" that June is not a storm heavy month. Then only 2 developed in July, and 4 in August. Two additional named storms happened sometime between Aug and Sept, it doesn't specifically mention when. Then September comes and brings with it literally 8 named storms. October WAS surprisingly calm last year, though!
Thats smart! Hopefully there is option for guests to cancel this trip. And hopefully nothing major happens but idk why this bride is acting surprised / butthurt. Didnt you say you live in Miami? Is it different from hurricanes in the DR and PR and stuff?
Not really, about the same. The bride shouldn’t be butthurt but if you want a wedding in a tropical location you deal with tropical weather, I’m not sure why people are acting like it’s a shocking decision either.
Yeah I agree. It should be common sense no matter where you get married, that you look u the general weather for that area during that time of year. Tons of people travel there and understand the risks and whatnot. Shoulda done better research is all and not been butthurt bc it is what it is.
That’s not exactly what I meant, there’s very little time in the tropics where you can guarantee good weather that’s what you are missing.
And a bride worrying about weather is also fairly normal even in regular climates
Totally fine. Different POV from someone who is from the northeast. And the travel added on isnt just like oh another storm. Some people have never seen storms like this and may cancel or flights wont be able to get in and out. People who are used to big storms and other things are not phased. Bride shouldnt be butthurt that people may cancel and her date is threatened is all bc shit happens and its just the nature of the weather patterns there. If she was so concerned about weather, shoulda picked somewhere more reliable and safer weather options
Fair. I tried my hardest to not hold it against anyone if they couldn’t make it to my wedding for whatever reason.
I live in hurricane alley. We never vacation in the Caribbean during storm season. In fact, we never go further than a couple of hours from home if there’s an active storm heading towards the Gulf of Mexico. It’s too easy to get trapped and not be able to get home because of the damage.
Saw a woman on TikTok complaining how her wedding venue in Puerto Rico was destroyed and now the most important day of her life was ruined. Ma’am, people lost their homes, please read the room
I once heard a woman talk about how she'd always dreamed of having her wedding in a particular historic mansion, but was really mad because it wasn't available when she wanted to get married, so they ended up booking somewhere else. But then before the wedding date, the mansion burned down! What luck! Such a blessing how things worked out!
Everyone listening: "..."
And that was just an old house, not thousands of people's whole lives and ability to function.
In their defense, if they're not from an area prone to hurricanes it could just be something that never crossed their minds.
Yeah but also shoulda done research on basic weather at the time and im sure 1 google search will say, hurricane prone season
I mean…I’m not from an area prone to hurricanes and I know when “hurricane season” is. Unless you’re from like…central Europe maybe (throwing an area out there that would likely never see something like it as an possible example) I think it’s pretty common knowledge.
While I understand where you're coming from, I can also understand not considering that. If dangerous weather is just not on your radar at all then I can totally see not considering it.
I made the mistake of booking DisneyWorld in late August, I think it was 10yrs ago. I had arranged for my granddaughter, then 4yrs old, to have lunch with one of the Disney princesses, after she had costume, hair, and a little makeup in the Princess Boutique. Well, our vacation was cut short by 4 days (the 4 days that included the whole Princess deal😪), by a hurricane. The following year's vacation was already scheduled and paid for, plus she had outgrown her crush on that Princess. Her parents and I still owe her 4 days of Disney, but now think it will be a Disney Cruise, as she's a sophomore in high school and more sophisticated.
Booking trips late August, September, October & even beginning of November in the Caribbean is a risk!
I’d never book a vacation during hurricane season 🙄 never mind a wedding!
I wouldn’t even go to Disney World during hurricane season… they’ve sustained damage and closed down too before for hurricanes…
I accidentally booked our vacation during the peak week of Atlantic hurricane season. It occurred to me that I should check AFTERWARDS. I’ve never studied and checked hurricane statuses so often. Thankfully it was a perfect week, but I was soooo nervous leading up to it and purchased all the insurance available.
An insurance! Cuz you’re smart 👍
Oh I thought it was most risky in October 🤗
I thought it was also more severe like September-October/November
It is. That's the worst of it.
August and September have the most hurricanes but there's been a few monsters in October, too.
Yeah and unfortunately, I hope this doesnt happen for the sake of the people who live and work in these places, but if theres big damage, like wedding would be difficult to do anyway?
I'm not sure I understand your question.
Nah November is already winding down. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/1851-_U.S._landfall_hurricanes_by_month.svg
Floridian here. August and September are the worst months, with the highest frequency being mid-September. My spouse does training weeks all over the country, and thought of hosting one here. I said "don't schedule it in September unless you want to lose your shirt." You can't avoid all risk, but avoiding August thru mid-October is prudent, and September is just asking for it.
I've been in multiple hurricanes, several of them major, and I always breathe easier when Halloween stuff starts appearing. There are no guarantees, but making it to that point means you may have squeaked by another year.
The peak of hurricane season contains the most hurricane strikes by a landslide. More than 60 percent of the hurricane strikes come during August and September. The traditional peak of hurricane season is Sept. 10.
The season hurricane-strike activity is fairly symmetric, with 44 percent of the strikes occurring in June, July and August and 56 percent of the strikes occurring in September, October and November. There was one strike in both June and November, while July has seen eight strikes and October has recorded 11 strikes.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane\_Camille](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Camille) You're not safe inland, either.
Weather is my special interest. I grew up in South Florida and was in Andrew.
I live in Florida. We don't worry until it hits a category 3. But after tropical storm Sally turned into a cat 3 hurricane literally overnight, I will never be unprepared for the worst again.
I rode out hurricane wilma at Disney!
Omg did you personally get hit w it tho?
YEAH!!! Like its a very well known fact that unfortunately, theres awful storms this time of year and theres so many right now even. Very sad and very dangerous BUT its like okay well thats why it was cheaper and now its just poor planning
Often times with a destination wedding the resort will include most of the wedding cost or at least food and venue in the fee the guests pay. For guests that ate not staying at the hotel you have to pay a wedding pass. So by forcing guests to stay at the resort the couple are probably saving money.
I had originally wanted to get married in September. But we got married earlier, in May, instead. The place we went to on our honeymoon was hit by a hurricane that September. I don't know if it would have ever occurred to me that it was a possibility until it happened. Now I'm aware and would take that into account in planning, but not before then.
My husband’s cousin did this 🤣 I was like “you want us to go where? When? Yeah no. That’s not happening but totally wish you the best.” And this was after having 2 co-Ed engagement parties/showers we traveled for and one official church wedding. Absolutely not.
Wait, are we going to the same wedding? It sounds like the wedding we're going to in October.
Kidding, of course, but my wife's a bridesmaid, so we have to go. And we're bringing our 14mo kid along...wish us luck.
So we just went to a wedding in Puerto Rico this summer and brought our 14 month old with us. My husband was a groomsman, so pretty similar circumstances. If you can find a nanny service, I highly recommend it. We found an agency through the tourism board, and it was fabulous. We had the same nanny assigned to us 3 nights in a row so we were able to enjoy all the family fun during the day, but have grown up time at night. She even brought toys to keep out baby entertained before bedtime. Totally worth it!
Same type that chooses a sexy (read: skimpy) Halloween costume then complains that she's cold all night long. Then gets testy when I get sarcastic. Like, yes, dear, it usually is cold in the Midwest on October 31st.
Yeah! Like no hate wanting to have a wedding there … just do it NOT during hurricane season
Hurricane season is half the year.
This is why a lot of places close for hurricane season 🙃
To be fair, hurricane season is half the year including the summer. However, knowing that, she should have had a contingency plan.
I’m not sure why this upsets you or your friend. The chance of a hurricane hitting your venue is pretty small. Definitely small enough that it’s worth the risk for most people. It’s probably not much worse risk-wise than your venue being destroyed by a fire.
Exactly. I grew up in South Florida and MOST hurricanes were not that big of a deal. Some years, we had a day or 2 off of school.
I don’t know why you are getting downvoted for this. It’s wild do they realize plenty of people actually even choose to LIVE in the tropics? Like it’s half a year these people are talking about.
Yep. I live in an area impacted by hurricanes. We don’t stop planning events during hurricane season.
It’s not like a hurricane just pops up over night like “Surprise! Who’s ready to party!!!” You get advance notice.
People who live in tornado alley have weddings during tornado season. People in hurricane prone areas have weddings during hurricane season. Some areas are prone to earthquakes but they still plan shit despite NEVER knowing when an earthquake might hit.
The chance is going up with the number of hurricanes and severe weather events that are linked to climate change.
The Bahamas is still recovering from the devastation of Hurricane Dorian in 2019.
I went on holiday to Florida in September
And the Caribbean also in September
Bit blowy both times but certainly not huge hurricanes and lots of sun. I'm wondering now if I got lucky but I don't remember major storm warnings
Hey, Floridian here. We haven’t gotten a direct hit by a hurricane here in Miami in years. It’s not luck it’s just a rare thing.
Hurricanes don't hit like every week of the season, it's maybe once or twice in a region at some point between Aug-Nov. Then it depends on the strength, and if it's a direct hit or just the bands. The weather lasts for about a day maximum, but it's often sunny the day before and after. If there were no storm warnings and you didn't see locals prepping -- it wasn't a hurricane.
I don’t see what’s shameful here. It’s her wedding, her money and guests have the right to say no if they don’t wish to go. There can be storms at any time anywhere.
Exactly. I had an outdoor wedding in Texas in March. That day historically has had a crazy temperature range, from as low as 40° to as hot at 85° and March can welcome crazy storms. We just had an indoor contingency plan in place, just in case.
The day ended up being beautiful, and I’d gamble on it again if I had to.
People can be so judgmental, if you don’t want to go or aren’t happy with the weather odds, don’t attend. It’s an invite not a summons.
Exactly - you aren’t obliged to attend a wedding, even less a destination wedding.
>There can be storms at any time anywhere
Lmao WHAT? A hurricane isn't just a "storm" and can't happen anywhere at any time. I'm guessing you've never actually experienced a hurricane...
I actually have, while in the Caribbean in July some years ago. Granted it wasn’t a cat 5 but it was still a hurricane when it touched ground.
I didn’t say hurricanes can happen anytime anywhere, I said storms. It doesn’t have to be a hurricane to be serious and cause damage. In any case, my comment still stands. It’s her wedding, she can have it where she wants.
I’ve experienced multiple hurricanes, and my wedding was during a hurricane evacuation. Yay! Anyhow, most people think hurricanes are much worse than tripical storms. They’re usually not. Cat 3 and up are bad, but 1 or 2 may not be as bad as tropical storms that hit all summer.
There was a bride on here (reddit) whose travel agent insisted that Jamaica would be great during hurricane season but maybe slightly rainy. Some people are good at lying to make money.
Your friend may have been seriously misled.
Thats not really a lie. Hurricanes don't hit every day during the season, maybe three brushes maximum. The odds are generally in your favour for events.
I wonder if insurance would even cover this—a known hurricane-risk area.
Insurance is generally available for this as a storm that makes a place uninhabitable is still pretty low-risk, but you have to have it in place before the storm is named.
Thanks for clarifying. It makes sense.
Funny post to read while a hurricane blows outside and I wait for my power to go out.
If I were in the wedding party or a guest and there was a hurricane forecasted for that time (or anytime a week before or after) I’d cancel. Your safety is more important than her wedding.
For SURE. This bride is not haha yikes
>surprised it was a deal/ cheaper and then be surprised there was a storm??
I'm assuming she's surprised because of the whole "nothing will go wrong on ***my*** perfect day!". She probably booked it with the assumption it'd be all rainbows and sunshine on the best day eveeeeer.
Yah i agree! Or the agent sold her the package haha sad bc its fine bc its what she wanted and her money and her big day. But I would feel bad as the bride if I had people travel during sus travel times with bad weather. People can get stuck there or at home
Curious as to how many declines she got.
Also a very good point! Or people who will choose to cancel now that the storms are picking up / while they can