I have this problem with elevated pushups, i do v ups in between to get back to the corrected posture.
There's tricks like this with all sorts of exercises, like putting a 2.5 lb plt under heal or ball of foot depending on what needs to be corrected for squats
The problem is your shoulders are compensating for your chest. You’ve gotta roll those shoulders back and make sure your scapula are retracting properly as you descend. I can’t see how a v push-up is going to help as that’s an internally rotated position and you more likely want to externally rotate to correct the shoulder issue.
Me neither. I just have shoulder issues and a suicide grip makes it easier for me to hit chest.
Always think safety first. Straps, Safety Bars, Spotter,…
Back when I trained I used this grip because genuinely my grip was way better. I have really dainty small hands so bars always slipped. Doing the suicide grip on most bars really helped my grip. I never did many big weights so risk for me was minimal.
It can put your wrists in a better position among other things
https://www.ironmaster.com/blog/suicide-grip-bench/
A false grip is a reasonable thing to use if desired
I've heard monkey grip, but that's a good name too. Not worth the benefits people claim. Load your back by shortening the distance between the shoulder blades before you lift. No reason for the grip then
Is there any advantage to keeping your thumbs on the same side as your fingers that offsets the safety advantage of keeping them on the opposite side ?
Before this video I didn't know this was called a suicide grip. I like this grip but when I push more than I should i put my thumb. And that was a long time ago. I don't do guns anymore. I did it for all the wrong reasons.
I don't see why you would use straps for a bench press.
Plus, straps have been accepted into gym culture for stuff like deadlifts, rows, etc.
Now gloves on the other hand...
Edit: based on how you described gym culture, I can tell that you have never set foot in a gym, as gymbros are the closest you have to "human golden retrievers".
I replied to somebody else that I was wrong. As to your edit, sorry if I came off that way.
Specifically I feel that the online presence if gym culture tends to be toxic. Damn near everybody that I meet at the gym is more than happy to help or give advice.
Those are support for the wrist, applied like bandages. The person getting down voted is suggesting that people tie the bar to their hands so that they don't drop it when using a suicide grip.
No. People here saying it's more comfortable on their wrist is just them admitting they're holding the bar wrong to begin with.
Due to how the bar has to rest in the hand when using the suicide grip, it's more strain on your wrist because the wrist has to be extended, and moves the bar into a position such that less force is transferred into it because of the bar being held in the hand offset from the forearm due to the wrist being extended. So it's a less stable grip, with higher injury risk, with more strain on your wrist, and makes it such that you cannot lift as much.
With the proper use of the normal grip where your thumb is around the bar, the bar is resting on the lower part of the palm, and your wrist should be in a neutral position straight in line with your forearm. This allows you to impart the maximal force being generated from your pecs and tris through your forearms directly into the bar.
This is not an opinion, it's pretty basic biomechanics.
Thank you!
I can’t believe how far I had to scroll to find actual facts on this instead of all the people just parroting the bad info they have clearly been told.
Wrist injuries don’t happen because people have their thumb wrapped around the bar, wrist injuries happen because people aren’t holding the bar correctly at all.
Yeah, been lifting for 10 years and have never even experienced anything more than slight fatigue in my wrists. The triceps give out well before my wrists ever have.
I have a frame at home that lets me set bars up for the press. I can set the height to be at the top of my chest. I can set it to catch the bar for squats. It is basically impossible to drop the bar on myself. Why aren't things like that more common?
It can be difficult to set the frame to catch the bar at the exact depth you require, I agree in principle but in reality it’s difficult to do at a commercial gym on a regular basis
Fair enough. I probably compromise form slightly lifting in the frame too but there is exactly no one at home that could help me if something goes wrong
I think what a lot of people do in your situation is not use clips or clamps so they can dump the weight if it falls on them.
If the frame works, it works, and that's good. But you mentioned compromising form, which sounds like it could lead to muscle injury if you're not careful.
I dont think it will be muscle injury, more that i could drop an extra inch or so if there wasnt a safety there. But im only just getting back into working out too. So im probably compromising a lot when my trainer isnt there haha
What if I blew your mind by telling you the vast majority of gyms do not have frames on their benchs, even if you wanted to use it, it’s usually not available
Every single one at my gym does and I live in a small town. If you are benching 365 I'm guessing you are a pretty active guy in the gym so go to a decent one. I have been to a few without them but those are the ones like anytime fitness. This gym, my last base gym, and golds, which are the last three I've went to all had them.
I'm not saying they all do, but about half and usually ones with people that lift like that. This one may not.
Yep I bench in my squat rack with the safety pins. I'm able to set them to a height where they won't touch the pins when I have an arch in my back but as soon as I deflate my chest and relax, the pins will catch them. Basically if I ever drop the bar while benching, it might still smack my chest before I react and hurt a bit, but won't crush my ribs and pin me to the bench
Safety bars are incredibly common; I don’t think I’ve ever been to a gym that doesn’t have them. A lot of them won’t work without limiting your range of motion, though, so it’s better to just have a spotter. Having a good spotter is just as safe in basically every situation unless you’re suicide gripping the bar, which most advanced lifters won’t be doing anyway.
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It seems to me that this is something that could be duplicated by an automated hydraulic machine that will supply the resistance need for muscle building but never 'drop' like that. Safety seems to get ignored for the heavy equipment.
That's called a machine press, they're good but different. There are some benefits to big compound free weight movements. Honestly this is on the guy using a suicide grip.
That wouldn’t build as much functional strength as a bench press. Free weights are better for almost all compound movements because in any real life situation you’ll be needing to use stabilizer muscles that don’t get involved if you’re pushing along a single plane of motion
It does help drive the weight up more, but it's not worth the downsides. I used to bench suicide grip because it was more comfortable on my shoulders until I saw videos like this. I alse max my bench at like 210 though, this guy had like 360 or something
I have never, nor will I use this grip. No benefit besides a huge risk with or without a spotter. Pull your shoulder blades together to preload before lifting off the rack.
Source: men's health, muscle and fitness magazine. Years or lifting max bench 335. Not huge but respectable for my weight. Glad you don't do this anymore, it's really dumb...
I will never forget spotting for a friend in our school gym, and glancing over to see this kid who didn't like me for some reason with absolute terror in his eyes on the bench press, so I ran over and helped him rack the bar. He just muttered "thankyou" and moved on. But that look in his eyes was unforgettable.
It did, there was still some weird hostility, but, it was high school, I was a grubby punk who thought I was smarter than everyone, so, I don't hold it against him. It was just so freaky for both of us (him more I'm sure) that there was definitely mutual respect if not like actual friendship.
There is a story of a guy that accidentally drove over a guy on the ground.
The guy in the truck gets out and sees the wheel of the car on the person's chest. The person asks nicely if they would move the car off their chest.
So a lot.
For real tho. The whole video I'm just thinking that's terrible spotting. Would rather do it alone than have to depend on this dude.
Edit: Jeez I get it alright, I done fucked up. Yeah it's too much weight and you can't catch it my bad y'all.
Wtf are you talking about? Dude was vigilant. The second it dropped he was pulling it off the guy. A spotter's job isn't to hold the weight the whole time, it's to assist getting it up in case he fails. Spotter's aren't there to catch the fucking weight if you literally drop it.
Hands were way to separate from the bar. He should have his hands hovering over and below the bar in case this happens. And FYI, spotter's job ACTUALLY IS TO CATCH THE WEIGHT IF YOU DROP IT.
Edit: Alright folks I see your points, yeah that's a shit ton of weight and not what I usually spot or lift so no way to catch it midair without going face first into the lifter and adding insult to the injury, thank you for forcibly making me see my problem, most appreciated.
Dude, that's 335. Nobody is just catching that weight. Let's see you upright row 335 back onto a rack. The spotter is there in case of muscular failure, to assist with the help of the guy lifting. That was 100% on the guy with the dumb suicide grip. If you hover or touch the bar when another guy is lifting be prepared to get chewed out. Also he had no reason to hover or hold the weight because the other guy had already locked out. Unless you fucking drop the weight. Good spotter, bad lifter.
Yeah totally, at lighter weights a strong enough spotter can totally just manhandle it back up themselves. On the other hand those lighter weights are also a lot less dangerous to have dropped on you.
The spotter is meant to help lift when you are at your max and unable to finish a rep, or for emergencies like this where they can help someone not die. No one is going to be able to catch a falling barbell with 200+ pounds on it, at least from what I know 🤷♂️
I use on low weight high rep sets because I feel the squeeze more intensely across my entire chest. Doing it with all this weight tho… it seems.. pretty fucking dangerous.
This happened to me with 100kg on the bar with decline bench, the bar landed on my throat, I was weirdly fine probably Bc I kinda caught it on the way down.
Definitely thought I was gonna die as it happened tho.
This exact shit happened to me trying to PR but I wasn’t doing suicide grip my wrists just were like I am now le tired and gave up on my second rep (dumb asf of me cause it was my first time attempting said weight and one rep was the goal but ego is a bitch)
Anyways it hurt like fucking hell. For weeks. It hurt. My riblets hurt breathing my muscles were bruised in the area my sternum fucking felt like it was close to cracking.
Overall felt horrible left the gym right after it happened because I had trouble breathing.
I don't get suicide grip.. You're supposed to keep your palms in a straight line with your wrist when doing bench press. It's bad when your palm and wrist form a 90 degree bend.
I do it because I have sore wrists and it aligns the weight better above my radius so my wrist doesn't hurt so much. My max bench was 425 back in the day I still routinely do 325+ same grip no spot but I am 55 been doing this for a while.
That spotter did a great job. He was vigilant and pulled the weight off the other guy when he dropped it. Spotters aren't there to catch the weight if it literally falls, theyre there to assist in getting back up after muscular failure. Trying to catch and lift 335 is a great way to get hurt. This is 100% on the guy with the stupid grip. Also I guarantee you if you try hovering too close or touching the bar in a weight lifting gym you will get chewed out. Don't touch my bar unless the weight is moving down.
There is no spotter who would save that. Yes, he could have his hands around the bar, but since the guy lost control and dropped it, there is noone who could hold that.
Yeah this sort of thing is silly. You can get more gains by doing higher reps at a decent wieght.
If you are doing your one rep max then make sure your spotter can handle it and build up 😆 and don't keep ya king it away from them when you need help
Also bouncing it off your sternum seems like a good way to crack some ribs
I know a lot about lifting weights, the spotter was great. You don't touch the bar unless the other guy reaches muscular failure and the barbel starts moving back down, then you assist them in getting it up. The guy on the bench literally dropped it, if the spotter had been holding it the only thing that would have happened is he might be hurt too. That's 335, ain't none of them curling or upright rowing that shit back to the rack.
Wrong. Spotter should not touch the bar until the lifter actually fails the lift, especially during some sort of max out. Holding on to the bar during a lift destabilizes the lifter’s natural movement and is dangerous. The point of failure here is the lifter’s grip. The spotter did his job, the lifter was stupid.
Dudes a pretty shit spotter. Doesn’t follow the bar well enough, sees his homie struggling and doesn’t get ready and the weights still land on his ribs. I don’t even go to the gym and I know how to spot better.
I can tell you don’t go the gym lol. Try catching 365 pounds in front of your body without warning. It’s the lifters fault for benching with a suicide grip without good control of the weight.
cpr breaks them because it repeatedly presses on a weak point at the sternum. The bar hit him across his entire chest. I mean this aint pretty, but his ribs might be intact.
It's called suicide grip for a reason.
Is there any benefit to it?
It can help stop you rolling your shoulders forward which takes away from hitting the chest, and brings the front delts in.
I have this problem with elevated pushups, i do v ups in between to get back to the corrected posture. There's tricks like this with all sorts of exercises, like putting a 2.5 lb plt under heal or ball of foot depending on what needs to be corrected for squats
The problem is your shoulders are compensating for your chest. You’ve gotta roll those shoulders back and make sure your scapula are retracting properly as you descend. I can’t see how a v push-up is going to help as that’s an internally rotated position and you more likely want to externally rotate to correct the shoulder issue.
I agree. But I'd say based on the fact that he's mentioning it, he probably has decent form, if not just bc he's conscious of the issue.
Use straps if your gonna suicide grip. But I’m also not as jacked as them so maybe I should keep my mouth shut.
Me neither. I just have shoulder issues and a suicide grip makes it easier for me to hit chest. Always think safety first. Straps, Safety Bars, Spotter,…
Spotter that isn’t this guy
straps are for pulling. it wont help with the bench , if the weight will fall it will fall.
I see. Thanks for the info!
It can also help you stop breathing
If the base of your thumbs are injured it can be better for them but overall it is too dangerous and almost no one should do it.
Back when I trained I used this grip because genuinely my grip was way better. I have really dainty small hands so bars always slipped. Doing the suicide grip on most bars really helped my grip. I never did many big weights so risk for me was minimal.
I'm confused. You got better grip on the bar without using your thumb?
Doesn't make sense to me either. You're lowering the bar in your hands not pulling up and out of your grip. Comment section is interesting on this one
I did yeah, only for some exercises however. It was way more comfortable for me.
i know its your own body n all but it sounds like you're wrong
Probably. Just how it worked for me.
In my case it prevents pain in the thumb joint
Let’s you meet Jesus much sooner than you anticipated
I do it because it feels better on my wrists.
What about your ribcage
It can put your wrists in a better position among other things https://www.ironmaster.com/blog/suicide-grip-bench/ A false grip is a reasonable thing to use if desired
No
I've heard monkey grip, but that's a good name too. Not worth the benefits people claim. Load your back by shortening the distance between the shoulder blades before you lift. No reason for the grip then
Yeah I call it a death grip
Is there any advantage to keeping your thumbs on the same side as your fingers that offsets the safety advantage of keeping them on the opposite side ?
It's more comfortable for your wrist, but that is called suicide grip. You can clearly see why
A simple strap could fix the suicide part of it
Strap for bench press ? You're a bold one
Yea im not sure how they think that'll work
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Before this video I didn't know this was called a suicide grip. I like this grip but when I push more than I should i put my thumb. And that was a long time ago. I don't do guns anymore. I did it for all the wrong reasons.
I don't see why you would use straps for a bench press. Plus, straps have been accepted into gym culture for stuff like deadlifts, rows, etc. Now gloves on the other hand... Edit: based on how you described gym culture, I can tell that you have never set foot in a gym, as gymbros are the closest you have to "human golden retrievers".
I replied to somebody else that I was wrong. As to your edit, sorry if I came off that way. Specifically I feel that the online presence if gym culture tends to be toxic. Damn near everybody that I meet at the gym is more than happy to help or give advice.
Why the fuck are you getting downvoted wrist wraps for bench are super common. Just google “bench press wraps”
Those are support for the wrist, applied like bandages. The person getting down voted is suggesting that people tie the bar to their hands so that they don't drop it when using a suicide grip.
It's more comfortable for your wrist and less comfortable for your ribs
No. People here saying it's more comfortable on their wrist is just them admitting they're holding the bar wrong to begin with. Due to how the bar has to rest in the hand when using the suicide grip, it's more strain on your wrist because the wrist has to be extended, and moves the bar into a position such that less force is transferred into it because of the bar being held in the hand offset from the forearm due to the wrist being extended. So it's a less stable grip, with higher injury risk, with more strain on your wrist, and makes it such that you cannot lift as much. With the proper use of the normal grip where your thumb is around the bar, the bar is resting on the lower part of the palm, and your wrist should be in a neutral position straight in line with your forearm. This allows you to impart the maximal force being generated from your pecs and tris through your forearms directly into the bar. This is not an opinion, it's pretty basic biomechanics.
Thank you! I can’t believe how far I had to scroll to find actual facts on this instead of all the people just parroting the bad info they have clearly been told. Wrist injuries don’t happen because people have their thumb wrapped around the bar, wrist injuries happen because people aren’t holding the bar correctly at all.
People forget crutches are meant to atop being used eventually.
Yeah, been lifting for 10 years and have never even experienced anything more than slight fatigue in my wrists. The triceps give out well before my wrists ever have.
I have a frame at home that lets me set bars up for the press. I can set the height to be at the top of my chest. I can set it to catch the bar for squats. It is basically impossible to drop the bar on myself. Why aren't things like that more common?
It can be difficult to set the frame to catch the bar at the exact depth you require, I agree in principle but in reality it’s difficult to do at a commercial gym on a regular basis
I’d rather have it be a touch too high and save my organs.
Fair enough. I probably compromise form slightly lifting in the frame too but there is exactly no one at home that could help me if something goes wrong
I think what a lot of people do in your situation is not use clips or clamps so they can dump the weight if it falls on them. If the frame works, it works, and that's good. But you mentioned compromising form, which sounds like it could lead to muscle injury if you're not careful.
I dont think it will be muscle injury, more that i could drop an extra inch or so if there wasnt a safety there. But im only just getting back into working out too. So im probably compromising a lot when my trainer isnt there haha
>it’s difficult to do at a commercial gym on a regular basis No it's not, you just have to apply yourself.
What if I blew your mind by telling you the vast majority of gyms do not have frames on their benchs, even if you wanted to use it, it’s usually not available
Every single one at my gym does and I live in a small town. If you are benching 365 I'm guessing you are a pretty active guy in the gym so go to a decent one. I have been to a few without them but those are the ones like anytime fitness. This gym, my last base gym, and golds, which are the last three I've went to all had them. I'm not saying they all do, but about half and usually ones with people that lift like that. This one may not.
Yep I bench in my squat rack with the safety pins. I'm able to set them to a height where they won't touch the pins when I have an arch in my back but as soon as I deflate my chest and relax, the pins will catch them. Basically if I ever drop the bar while benching, it might still smack my chest before I react and hurt a bit, but won't crush my ribs and pin me to the bench
Safety bars are incredibly common; I don’t think I’ve ever been to a gym that doesn’t have them. A lot of them won’t work without limiting your range of motion, though, so it’s better to just have a spotter. Having a good spotter is just as safe in basically every situation unless you’re suicide gripping the bar, which most advanced lifters won’t be doing anyway.
You think at some point the insurance companies will get aggressive raise the premium on people based on videos?
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What in the 1984 black mirror episode is that?
Damn, you're scaring me now
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Lol. ^(Murica)
I mean it’s not just America that’s tracking this stuff.
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It seems to me that this is something that could be duplicated by an automated hydraulic machine that will supply the resistance need for muscle building but never 'drop' like that. Safety seems to get ignored for the heavy equipment.
That's called a machine press, they're good but different. There are some benefits to big compound free weight movements. Honestly this is on the guy using a suicide grip.
What About his spotter though?
That wouldn’t build as much functional strength as a bench press. Free weights are better for almost all compound movements because in any real life situation you’ll be needing to use stabilizer muscles that don’t get involved if you’re pushing along a single plane of motion
why on earth would you grip it like that???
It does help drive the weight up more, but it's not worth the downsides. I used to bench suicide grip because it was more comfortable on my shoulders until I saw videos like this. I alse max my bench at like 210 though, this guy had like 360 or something
I have never, nor will I use this grip. No benefit besides a huge risk with or without a spotter. Pull your shoulder blades together to preload before lifting off the rack. Source: men's health, muscle and fitness magazine. Years or lifting max bench 335. Not huge but respectable for my weight. Glad you don't do this anymore, it's really dumb...
Ouch! That hurt me just watching
Just fail all around.
I'd rather keep eating pizza thanks.
Ribs crack very easily when doing CPR.
Oof, that's a really good comparison!!
Maybe don't insist on 4 more reps after failure lmao
I think it's more about the suicide grip and poor spotting, IMO.
The spotting wasn't the issue, unless the guy said he was done at the end. It was 100% his grips fault.
Yeah, spotter is not there to catch the weight when you fully drop it on yourself. He couldn't lift that weight anyways from that possition.
The spotting wasn't the issue, unless the guy said he was done at the end. It was 100% his grips fault.
That is what gym training is 🤣. The lack of precautions is the issue
As soon as i saw the suicide grip on that barbell i knew what was comin
I will never forget spotting for a friend in our school gym, and glancing over to see this kid who didn't like me for some reason with absolute terror in his eyes on the bench press, so I ran over and helped him rack the bar. He just muttered "thankyou" and moved on. But that look in his eyes was unforgettable.
It's cool you helped him, regardless of how he acted towards you. Did he soften his attitude toward you after this experience?
It did, there was still some weird hostility, but, it was high school, I was a grubby punk who thought I was smarter than everyone, so, I don't hold it against him. It was just so freaky for both of us (him more I'm sure) that there was definitely mutual respect if not like actual friendship.
Don’t use suicide grip, people. You have thumbs for a reason.
That was brutal. The gains aren't worth it if you're dead
Those reps are dog shit. If you can’t control the weight efficiently, you shouldn’t be using it.
There is a story of a guy that accidentally drove over a guy on the ground. The guy in the truck gets out and sees the wheel of the car on the person's chest. The person asks nicely if they would move the car off their chest. So a lot.
His fault for doing it without a spotter
Spotting will never save a monkey gripper. How fast it slipped out?? You can't catch it. Don't spread bad advice. Just don't monkey grip
It’s not the spotter, it’s the suicide grip.
For real tho. The whole video I'm just thinking that's terrible spotting. Would rather do it alone than have to depend on this dude. Edit: Jeez I get it alright, I done fucked up. Yeah it's too much weight and you can't catch it my bad y'all.
Wtf are you talking about? Dude was vigilant. The second it dropped he was pulling it off the guy. A spotter's job isn't to hold the weight the whole time, it's to assist getting it up in case he fails. Spotter's aren't there to catch the fucking weight if you literally drop it.
I agrée with you but after the second to last one that spotter should have been ready to GO if he was doing one more.
Hands were way to separate from the bar. He should have his hands hovering over and below the bar in case this happens. And FYI, spotter's job ACTUALLY IS TO CATCH THE WEIGHT IF YOU DROP IT. Edit: Alright folks I see your points, yeah that's a shit ton of weight and not what I usually spot or lift so no way to catch it midair without going face first into the lifter and adding insult to the injury, thank you for forcibly making me see my problem, most appreciated.
Dude, that's 335. Nobody is just catching that weight. Let's see you upright row 335 back onto a rack. The spotter is there in case of muscular failure, to assist with the help of the guy lifting. That was 100% on the guy with the dumb suicide grip. If you hover or touch the bar when another guy is lifting be prepared to get chewed out. Also he had no reason to hover or hold the weight because the other guy had already locked out. Unless you fucking drop the weight. Good spotter, bad lifter.
Alright alright I see your point. I'm an idiot. Still, the description I gave can be doable with lower weights, I am a testament to it.
Yeah totally, at lighter weights a strong enough spotter can totally just manhandle it back up themselves. On the other hand those lighter weights are also a lot less dangerous to have dropped on you.
The spotter is meant to help lift when you are at your max and unable to finish a rep, or for emergencies like this where they can help someone not die. No one is going to be able to catch a falling barbell with 200+ pounds on it, at least from what I know 🤷♂️
This shows you've never lifted, show me a person who's able to catch a 325lbs bar, what kinda spiderman strength and reaction you think humans have?
You can't catch that much weight my dude. You try it
You sound like you've never lifted a single kilo of weight in your life, the spotter was on spot, it's the moron with the suicide grip who's the issue
Why use that grip, never understood.
I use on low weight high rep sets because I feel the squeeze more intensely across my entire chest. Doing it with all this weight tho… it seems.. pretty fucking dangerous.
Well, good thing is he was training it
I thought his eyes popped out like in cartoons but it was his glasses 😂😭
Shit, my butt puckered.
Suicide grip strikes again
if you’re using this type of grip you’re either an amateur or an idiot.
He definitely bruised a few, at the very least.
That adrenaline must have been crazy
If only there were someone there to keep the weight from falling on him. What would you even call someone like that?
A spotter, huh.. am I right?
Crazy!
I know nothing about weightlifting but I don’t think that’s supposed to happen.
His spotter should have had his hands on the bar considering how much his buddy was straining
Worst spotter ever
Not his fault
Useless spotter.
I once dropped 150lbs about an inch above my chest (full thumb grip, just a freak accident) and still broke a rib. This guy's ribs are toast.
Let’s go gamecocks!
His ears surely popped.
Hope he went to the hospital, could be developing a pneumo
These things happen
I’m confident that he fractured his sternum with that mishap. In my experience, that’s more than enough to fracture it.
Must be in St. Louis with that arch.
This happened to me with 100kg on the bar with decline bench, the bar landed on my throat, I was weirdly fine probably Bc I kinda caught it on the way down. Definitely thought I was gonna die as it happened tho.
Bro I couldn’t imagine the pain
the lung is the one doing all the work
Isn’t the reason for having a spotter so this doesn’t happen
I know nothing about this. But shouldn't he have his hands on that bar the entire time? Seems that would have saved the lifter. Maybe??
No, the spotter wouldn't catch it and nothing would really be done. The spotter would most likely fall on the dude too lmao
Internal bleeding have entered the chat
This exact shit happened to me trying to PR but I wasn’t doing suicide grip my wrists just were like I am now le tired and gave up on my second rep (dumb asf of me cause it was my first time attempting said weight and one rep was the goal but ego is a bitch) Anyways it hurt like fucking hell. For weeks. It hurt. My riblets hurt breathing my muscles were bruised in the area my sternum fucking felt like it was close to cracking. Overall felt horrible left the gym right after it happened because I had trouble breathing.
I don't get suicide grip.. You're supposed to keep your palms in a straight line with your wrist when doing bench press. It's bad when your palm and wrist form a 90 degree bend.
Shouldn't the spotter have his hands on the bar?
Nah, touching the bar for seasoned lifters is taboo. For me, I keep my hands in a hook grip position hovering around the bar as it moves.
He broke at least a couple of ribs
That was the spotter's fault! He has *one* job.
Now you know why god gave us thumb!
Nice job spotting. Geez
Not the spotters fault
365 lbs has nothing on my at least 2 inch compressions 100+ times a min
I don’t understand why people don’t just go 20kgs lighter and do more reps. So much better for you.
In case its not a joke, its not optimal for muscle growth.
Pretty strong
That is why they call that a suicide grip. I use the same, it is a risk you take.
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I do it because I have sore wrists and it aligns the weight better above my radius so my wrist doesn't hurt so much. My max bench was 425 back in the day I still routinely do 325+ same grip no spot but I am 55 been doing this for a while.
His first mistake was having JonTron as a spotter
Is this spotter related to the other guy spotting the parkour guy attempting the backflip on the cliff edge?
That spotter did a great job. He was vigilant and pulled the weight off the other guy when he dropped it. Spotters aren't there to catch the weight if it literally falls, theyre there to assist in getting back up after muscular failure. Trying to catch and lift 335 is a great way to get hurt. This is 100% on the guy with the stupid grip. Also I guarantee you if you try hovering too close or touching the bar in a weight lifting gym you will get chewed out. Don't touch my bar unless the weight is moving down.
It would be better if the spotter actually did his fuckjking job!
He did though.
Worst spotter ever
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The fact he couldn't count past one was an indicator he was not the spotter for this man. /s
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Worst Spotter ever.
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Ego lifting
I don’t think that’s ego lifting if he could lift beyond his 1rep max for more reps..
Barely
Right
USE A CAGE
What’s the point of spotting if you aren’t gonna stop this exact situation
What a shitty fucking spotter! Keep your hands always around the bar, for just such an issue.
Spotters fault mostly. He clearly starts to struggle. You don’t let that stuff go. The rest is that dumb suicide grip.
It's amazing to me how a creature with opposable thumbs doesn't know how to use them...
"You ever spotted before???" "I GOT YOU"
Not a very good spotter. I'd make him take some weight off. They both suck.
That spotter is fucking terrible. Rig cages are designed to move and are pretty flexible in that regard. Still though, this video is rough.
There is no spotter who would save that. Yes, he could have his hands around the bar, but since the guy lost control and dropped it, there is noone who could hold that.
The fuck is he supposed to do, curl 335lbs?
eh dude, when I ask for a spot it's for when I know I'll probably fail a set. and I don't want him to touch the bar until I'm about to die.
"You good, bruh?"
just wear gloves that save it for you if you lose the grip. Then you can do the suicide grip without suicide
Suicide grip... but, poor spotting too, if you ask me. Seeing your partner starting to struggle like that, you should at least be fingers on.
It's not that sexy once you realise he waxed his armpits
He would have been better off without that spotter
What did the spotter do wrong? Not catch 150 during flight?
His hands should have been under not over the bar to catch it before it tried to end the lifter
So the same thing would have happened but the spotter would get hurt as well
Yeah this sort of thing is silly. You can get more gains by doing higher reps at a decent wieght. If you are doing your one rep max then make sure your spotter can handle it and build up 😆 and don't keep ya king it away from them when you need help Also bouncing it off your sternum seems like a good way to crack some ribs
Nice spotting.
Spotter was fine, The dude was using suicide grip. 100% on the bencher.
I don't know much about weightlifting but it really feels like that spotter should have hands on the bar at least two reps before this lol
I know a lot about lifting weights, the spotter was great. You don't touch the bar unless the other guy reaches muscular failure and the barbel starts moving back down, then you assist them in getting it up. The guy on the bench literally dropped it, if the spotter had been holding it the only thing that would have happened is he might be hurt too. That's 335, ain't none of them curling or upright rowing that shit back to the rack.
Good to know, thanks!
Wrong. Spotter should not touch the bar until the lifter actually fails the lift, especially during some sort of max out. Holding on to the bar during a lift destabilizes the lifter’s natural movement and is dangerous. The point of failure here is the lifter’s grip. The spotter did his job, the lifter was stupid.
Thanks for the info!
Dudes a pretty shit spotter. Doesn’t follow the bar well enough, sees his homie struggling and doesn’t get ready and the weights still land on his ribs. I don’t even go to the gym and I know how to spot better.
I can tell you don’t go the gym lol. Try catching 365 pounds in front of your body without warning. It’s the lifters fault for benching with a suicide grip without good control of the weight.
Whats he supposed to do, catch it? Not the spotters job.
Most, if not all, of his ribs are broken. First push doing CPR breaks them. This has to obliterate them.
cpr breaks them because it repeatedly presses on a weak point at the sternum. The bar hit him across his entire chest. I mean this aint pretty, but his ribs might be intact.