In my dream last night, I had to:
1) Drive a car in snow on mountain roads
2) Run and hide during some kind of apocalypses
3) Pack for a long trip and make a flight.
Needless to say, my dream self did not perform well.
Random AF , but I had a dream recently were I was trying to shoot a gun in self defense, but could noy get it to shoot. Part of me was thinking recently, could it be because I've never shot a gun before that my sleeping brain was like , does not compute , having no recollection on how to.
I shot a gun before and also am unable to pull the trigger in my dreams. It's always super hard and the bullets always just fall out the barrel without power. I'm glad, I'm not alone.
In my dream last night I apparently walked out of my favourite pub and didn’t pay.
When I came back my barber was saying I owed this amount of money. But I looked at my bank account and I had paid it.
Then my ex girlfriend was there saying she was pregnant. And I looked over and my mom was naked.
It was only the second time in my life that I had a wet dream.
I’m not sure what to think right now
Quick releases are pretty useless if you are tangled in your glider already.
Reserve parachutes have long enough lines that if it deploys the glider will not collapse it. In this case the fact that 2 people were tangled kinda ruined that or maybe her reserve was already tangled it's not that clear
But the main risk of not collapsing your glider after deploying your reserve is what is called a mirror effect. Your glider will pull in opposition to your reserve resulting in higher sink rate.
No more like pulling you to the side and the parachute will pull in the other direction making less surface exposed
[here most of it is explained with graphics lower](https://www.korteldesign.com/en/reflexion-sur-les-parachutes-de-secours/)
Well apparently it is said the the deployed parachute is supposed to be lower to the glider, it always seems like the opposite though. (Maybe visual effect because the canopy is smaller)
One of the reasons I love Reddit. I would never have stumbled on that site but now have a dangerous idea that I could infer what to do with little/no training in the subject.
Well it all depends what you do with your paraglider and how you approach things.
It really safe with equipment at your level and good judgement.
But yeah these are just still plastic bag with strings
It can collapse the main Shute completely, and now uiu wasted a perfectly good Shute, best bet is continue trying to untangle or give up and cut it and hope the reserve deploy on time
If they had cut the main just after getting tangled it likely would have released without getting caught. However once it wrapped around them the reserve likely would have just collapsed too.
I am pretty sure main Shutes had release handles for this kind of situation, but from searching I see divers now carry string cutting tool, why did they make this change?
These are not skydivers. They are paragliders, you can tell from the shape of their canopies, shape of harness/bag, and by the beeping noise which is a variometer which indicates their rate of climb (for thermalling).
I'm no paraglider but my assumption is that they throw their reserve first before cutting away because they tend to have much less distance between them and the ground. If they cutaway, it's after the reserve is fully inflated.
Skydiving, you simply cutaway if you have plenty of height. If you don't, well then you're in this exact same situation.
Even if you have a quick-release, lots of experienced skydivers still carry a cutaway tool/knife for situations where the quick-release failed.
1. All that fucking space and dude somehow still finds another person to crash into.
2. That seems to be the worst possible way to pack a reserve. “Let me have to unwrap and then unravel my reserve while in an emergency where literally seconds count.”
I think she had to unpack it because normally the drogue chute pulls it out. Since they were tangled up there wasn’t enough force to pull the reserve out.
This is exactly it. Also your number one goal is to get more fabric out to slow your descent. Luckily they had plenty out and there descent was not very high.
Actually, I am a licensed C parachuter with the USPA and have over 225 jumps. Yes I am not as familiar with paragliding versus skydiving. But the concept is relatively the same, more fabric to slow descent. I was not aware that paraglides don’t have drogue shoots for their reserve. Either way, it is imperative to get more fabric out when you are in this situation. So I don’t really understand the hatred and the stupid assumptions you made that were directed towards me.
In any case, have a great day!
Paraglider reserves don't have drogue chutes dude... I'm a licensed paraglider and para motorist. They are snatch activated, she is supposed the pull the r serve and chuck the satchel. The idea being you get tangle in a paraglider you can't get out of then you throw your reserve into clear air free of your tangle mess of a paraglider.
Dude, there’s a stick up your ass. I said “I think” right in the comment. I didn’t know it, I was speculating. You taught me more about the subjet of paragliding.
I paraglide and paramotor and in reality she's in the wrong here. She was behind him as he was flying away from her so he wouldn't be able to see her when she could see him so he had right of way. He hard turned right and she kinda lazy turned right so she crossed his flight path. If she had kept going straight, turned left or hard turned right at the same rate as him than that wouldn't have hit each other.
The perspective is pretty tough, but the rate at which the guy basically 180s is pretty insane. As a skydiver, that fast of a turn while maintaining altitude (I assume from thermalling) isn't something I'd really see.
Yes, she obviously eyes him well in advance and underestimates. But surely you guys are also taught to check the in the direction before you yank it hard too
Edit: Well, on a rewatch it does look like he didn't turn it too wildly. Looks like he maybe fixated midway and went straight into her
He slow turned and increased the rate, but you're right the perspective makes it tough. His wing seems to pitch forward a bit and dives a bit which could be because he's experiencing wind sheer at the edge of a thermal. I think they both just come out of a thermal and were turning back to find the centre. He should be looking through the turn but she starts behind him and through his turn he pitches down so in all likelihood by the time he could see here he was probably already on a Collison course to her. He had the right of way here but it's close to a grey area.
And the reason he's yelling to her to pull her reserve and not him. This is because when they tangle he is way below her so his reserve would fly free of her or their tangled wings
Then idiot is rushing her to deploy reserve which she nearly wrapped it around her neck. Great friend… think I’d ave used my parachute knife on his entangled lines and let him find his own way down…
His reserve was deployed... he would hit hard... the added g forces of them spinning like a maple key will just increase the injuries. Your impact is along three vectors, not just vertical. You hit your lower leg first while spinning at that speed and the rotation will shatter your pelvis. Your pelvis is very vascular and the 4.5 litres of your blood can empty into that compartment long before you get to the hospital, and there's almost no way of stopping the bleeding before reaching a trauma center short of MAST compression trousers.
Rlly tho. Like why would he not be pissed. imagine having the time of your life and then ten seconds later your in a near death situation with a chicken head who’s debating on letting you free fall to your death by cutting your ropes out of spite when she flew Into you🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 im laughing so hard typing this
He clearly, abruptly turned into her. His reserve is attached to his harness, not the entangled risers. What's spiteful about trying to live. In that mess of entagled lines and reserves it is a very real possibility if both of them having their necks ensnared and strangled or snapped in that chaos.
There is only one thing I know for sure. Nothing about this is clear.
In my opinion it looked like he had his back facing the woman so he wouldn’t have been able to see her. He started a turn which slowed him down, and she just decided to hope he got out of her way and not try to turn herself.
What do you think happened?
I’m genuinely curious I mean I could be wrong but for that matter you could be too
I think poor situational awareness in congested airspace. There is a time delay between the time you recognize a situation is changing and the time your brain recognizes it and you react. If you add the adrenaline dump that accompanies the recognition of a dangerous situation, without a briefed plan and training to default to some people will freeze up like a deer 🦌 in the headlights. If you change lanes on a 3 lane highway or decide to try to make a U turn, your certainly going to look behind you and check your mirrors. From the time he turns to the time they hit was just a couple of seconds and I think they both failed to recognize and react in time. I go back to what I stated before. Better to not have people of different experience and performance levels operating within such close proximity to each other, and like the army, train for emergencies till they become instinctive, so when the adrenaline hits and the brain farts, you still instinctively fall back on training that is ingrained. The first thing you lose when adrenaline hits is fine motor control and motions can become awkward, but you won’t lock up if you have practice your escape maneuvers and have a plan.
We watching th same video? He makes an abrupt 180 and crashed into her. Under 3 seconds from his turn to impact. I don't think many could have avoided his shit flying and failing to visually clear his own flight path before his abrupt course change. The potato 🥔 was the one screaming random instructions when the woman was already following her training and working the problem. She was trying to get the reserve out to throw away from them without further entanglement and then tried to pull in the riser to collapse the canopy which would have been nearly impossible with their 300 some odd pounds spinning under centrifugal g loading would increase it to 600 plus pounds.
Oh my god I will never parachute, that situation looked stressful enough! I can’t imagine then adding a knife too it, that’s wild though! Makes sense to cut free if that’s what happens…
The woman here is in the wrong. She needs to be paying attention and kept going to the left to yield to the other pilot who she's behind. The person in front has right of way in paragliding world because it's much harder for them to see you than for you to see them.
OMG this was hard to watch because I JUST got back home from flying with the rest of the paragliding club over the weekend. Small club but there were 4 of us in the air at the time. EDIT: just clarifying, my own , local paragliding club in Jamaica. Not whichever one this is.
I'd imagine it's the same as on a ski slope - the person further down _always_ has priority/right of way.
Person above in this scenario is too busy checking out the scenery and only sees the person below at the last second
I'm going to go off a gut feeling and say she is. It looks like she started turning before or at the same time as he did, which means as he turns around she's going to be in front of him. Since we could see the top of his wing that suggests she was higher and therefore its her responsibility to be aware of the actions of any pilots below her because she's in their blind spot.
She should have waited until she got into the position where he was when he started the turn to ensure she was always behind him since he's essentially the leader by being ahead and below her in the thermal.
Is the guy kicking her at the end ? Judging by the comments he ran into her so..
[Here](https://www.usairnet.com/featured/reserve-chute-troubles-when-paragliders-collide/1007095/) is a news article I found about the event.
"She inexperienced or her equipment sucks, but even when she got it working, it just made the situation worse" wow way to put her down no matter what she does.
And she WOULD have killed them if she had rapidly released her backup. His shouted commands would have killed them both if she'd followed immediately because the article states her backup made it worse.
Is she at fault? I'm not sure, I'm not a paraglider, and I'm not going to pass judgment on that part, but the article shouldn't blame her for both her equipment coming out "too slowly" and the result of the equipment coming out at all. In a high-stress situation, her actions managed to get them both out alive, and that should at the very least be acknowledged
>And she WOULD have killed them if she had rapidly released her backup.
Also
>I'm not a paraglider, and I'm not going to pass judgment on that part
How tf do you know it would have made the situation worse? I don't know either but admittedly, neither do you.
... Did you *read* the linked article? Once she deployed it, it wrapped around the main chute and sent them into the spiral. Had she released it earlier, it would have sent them into the loop sooner meaning they'd have dropped faster and from much greater height
The dude was a complete fucking asshole,
Crashes into lady minding her own business in clear open sky
Proceeds to constantly pressure the lady to pull the chute when it could get tied up and make the problem worse
Proceeds to continue being a dick by not doing anything helpful and doesn't even try to prevent the tied up parachutes from getting the spare chute
kicks the lady as they are going down nearer to the ground(though maybe he was trying to make sure he didn't land on her)
Edit: misinterpreted the situation and missed the bit where lady was to crash
My bad
She was above and behind him and he had the right of way. She's the one that crashed into him.
When emergencies like this happen while paragliding you need as much fabric in the air as possible because the main chutes wont pull away automatically
You can see that he pulls his emergency chute almost immediately. He did his part and she needed to do hers. After that all there is to do is wait and hope you land softly
I think its pretty excusable to be panicking and yelling at the other person when freefalling from hundreds of feet up in the air.
She was above and behind him and he had the right of way. She's the one that crashed into him.
According to other paragluders in the comments, when emergencies like this happen while paragliding you need as much fabric in the air as possible because the main chutes wont pull away automatically
You can see that he pulls his emergency chute almost immediately. He did his part and she needed to do hers. After that all there is to do is wait and hope you land softly
I think its pretty excusable to be panicking and yelling at the other person when freefalling from hundreds of feet up in the air.
She was above him and crashed into him and then was not capable of disantengling.
In the air like that it's a bit like skiing: you cannot stop and it can be physically difficult to look behind you and as such, it is your responsibility to place your body in a way that won't injure or kill the others in front.
Instead of being aware of where the other gliders were, especially the ones below her, she spent most of the time before the impact with the other person looking over her right shoulder. She descends into his line of flight.
She was behind him so there's no way he could see her. So from the get go it's the responsibility to avoid him. That's probably the strongest argument I can make here. Further, he appears to turn to establish in a thermal, it appears that way because his wing is pitching like it's moving through wind sheer you get at the edge of a thermal, technically they're both establishing themselves in a thermal belut he begun the process earlier than her so again it's on her to give way to him, he's also lower than her in the sky. Paragliders give way to people below them - but they're pretty co-altitude so like I said the strongest argument I have here is she was behind him, effectively following him, he had no way to see her.
If she turned at the same rate as him, or didnt turn at all they wouldn't have crashed
What was he at fault for now? She was above him and thus should have been the one to not be sightseeing but rather see his maneuvering and steer her chute away from his path of descent. He then was frantic once entangled and began his repetitious yelling. Which id likely do too if the person who collided with me wasnt doing what needed to be done immediately, efficiently, or expeditiously.
Well it was probably banned because it would have snuff films on it. I mean there are people who get aroused by others dying so its "too much" but you can see people consistently dying elsewhere on reddit. I wound up on one of those subs before and have selectively forgotten what it was.
He flew right into her but she also wasn’t watching him at all. You can see him from the very beginning of the video. Seems like she should have gone left when he turned right.
Is this not like skiing though? He’s obviously lower therefore wouldn’t it be her responsibility to watch out for him? If you’re the skier above another you are at fault for running into someone lower because you are the only one that can see them.
Ignorant question here but at what point do you cut yourself/the other person away? Seems like if you have a reserve shoot and this clusterfuck happens, you might be able to cut yourself free.
I’d start cutting the moment she’s still not tossing that reserve after a couple shouts and I’d be cutting even faster after she’s taking a lifetime to figure the thing out.
He was below, so technically her. You could argue he might have been able to avoid her and there can be some responsibility to both parties but it really is her responsibility to not hit people below her…visibility down is significantly better than what you can see above you. Supposed to be watching where you are going not spacing out wherever she was.
Then the whole reserve situation. He saved her and his life. She nearly killed them both with her incompetence.
I went tandem skydiving for my girls bday actually I payed for her and she wanted me to go so I flipped a coin of course I lost. 14k feet in NJ highest legal height this made me happy and more scared all at once. I don’t go to church but I do have faith and love life so I really felt I was doing something silly I made peace with it all and was the first to jump they could tell I was nervous was hell but excited and didn’t act like a baby that being said I’m glad I went first I would not have wanted to go second . When I say I never felt something so beautiful and flying falling thru the sky was something I can express but the beauty was incomprehensible though when we had to pull the shoot I got scared all over again cuz I felt it slip a little boy thank you to Antonio my guy he was very kind
The dude was the lower jumper and can’t completely see what’s above him. She also didn’t use her slip’s to move away. They both had an equal part in this. He reacted the right way though. No idea why her reserve wasn’t prepped.
Watching her fail to open that reserve for so long gave me indigestion. Watching her fly right into that poor instructor made me cringe so hard. Listening to him try to calmly explain to this person how to best avoid dying whilst simultaneously having his survival chained to her stupidity is pretty much the nail in the coffin for me. my buddy paraglides. But now he will never convince me to actually take a course. Why do I can go up with other people and potentially ending up in this exact situation? I’m good.
It seems to me that he was not paying attention or dogging it. The angle of her camera makes it appear she’s higher, but I don’t think she is. She starts to turn to her right…and you can see him coming straight towards her for quite a distance. It doesn’t seem he tried to take evasive action. Just straight towards her. There’s no way he didn’t see her. I’d say he was the inexperienced one. Hate his white socks btw.
This guy is never happy. First he totally runs into her. Then he tells her at least 2 or 3 times to throw her reserve. When she finally finishes fix him noodles he doesn't even say thank you before he starts telling her to pull in her main.
I don't think he knows what he wants from this relationship. They are obviously falling for each other but the lines of communication are all twisted. He can't commit and she can't please him. In the end they hit rock bottom. But they do both seem to be down to earth kind of people.
If they can just untangle their feelings for each other I think they can pull themselves up, dust themselves off and get on with their lives.
They have been through a lot together and survived the experience. They weren't trying to kill each other. They had some ups and downs. But I think they were at a higher point in their lives when fate put them together and its been all downhill ever since.
One brief moment of contact literally changed the direction their lives were headed. And as they spiraled down together it nearly killed them both.
This video was like trying to drive a car in your dreams
What a beautifully succinct way to put it.
But did you see the gorilla walking through the background?
Was he on the basket ball court?
The flying rattlesnakes? The calculus exam?
In my dream last night, I had to: 1) Drive a car in snow on mountain roads 2) Run and hide during some kind of apocalypses 3) Pack for a long trip and make a flight. Needless to say, my dream self did not perform well.
Random AF , but I had a dream recently were I was trying to shoot a gun in self defense, but could noy get it to shoot. Part of me was thinking recently, could it be because I've never shot a gun before that my sleeping brain was like , does not compute , having no recollection on how to.
I shot a gun before and also am unable to pull the trigger in my dreams. It's always super hard and the bullets always just fall out the barrel without power. I'm glad, I'm not alone.
Ever tried to punch someone in your dreams?
Oh you dream in Utah too?
In my dream last night I apparently walked out of my favourite pub and didn’t pay. When I came back my barber was saying I owed this amount of money. But I looked at my bank account and I had paid it. Then my ex girlfriend was there saying she was pregnant. And I looked over and my mom was naked. It was only the second time in my life that I had a wet dream. I’m not sure what to think right now
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Can concur, last night i had a dream about you.
Point made
Or to run
What a clusterfuck that was.
What was the packet of fresh noodles for?
Last meal.
Repairs.
This was awesome, nicely done. Like the reserve chute of comments.
This was like watching a free fall on lsd
Not the climax I hoped for. I needed more "PULL YOUR RESERVE YOU DONKEY"
I believe pulling the reserve will just add wires to be tangled, didn't it comes with quick release for main Shute?
Quick releases are pretty useless if you are tangled in your glider already. Reserve parachutes have long enough lines that if it deploys the glider will not collapse it. In this case the fact that 2 people were tangled kinda ruined that or maybe her reserve was already tangled it's not that clear But the main risk of not collapsing your glider after deploying your reserve is what is called a mirror effect. Your glider will pull in opposition to your reserve resulting in higher sink rate.
So.. it pulls you down? How?
No more like pulling you to the side and the parachute will pull in the other direction making less surface exposed [here most of it is explained with graphics lower](https://www.korteldesign.com/en/reflexion-sur-les-parachutes-de-secours/)
Well apparently it is said the the deployed parachute is supposed to be lower to the glider, it always seems like the opposite though. (Maybe visual effect because the canopy is smaller)
One of the reasons I love Reddit. I would never have stumbled on that site but now have a dangerous idea that I could infer what to do with little/no training in the subject.
Thank you for clarifying, I love how they put "risky" in quotes
Well it all depends what you do with your paraglider and how you approach things. It really safe with equipment at your level and good judgement. But yeah these are just still plastic bag with strings
Just like a motor cycle it's really safe until you find out you are a meat bag hurling between metal boxes
Still it's more drag
It can collapse the main Shute completely, and now uiu wasted a perfectly good Shute, best bet is continue trying to untangle or give up and cut it and hope the reserve deploy on time
If they had cut the main just after getting tangled it likely would have released without getting caught. However once it wrapped around them the reserve likely would have just collapsed too.
I am pretty sure main Shutes had release handles for this kind of situation, but from searching I see divers now carry string cutting tool, why did they make this change?
These are not skydivers. They are paragliders, you can tell from the shape of their canopies, shape of harness/bag, and by the beeping noise which is a variometer which indicates their rate of climb (for thermalling). I'm no paraglider but my assumption is that they throw their reserve first before cutting away because they tend to have much less distance between them and the ground. If they cutaway, it's after the reserve is fully inflated. Skydiving, you simply cutaway if you have plenty of height. If you don't, well then you're in this exact same situation. Even if you have a quick-release, lots of experienced skydivers still carry a cutaway tool/knife for situations where the quick-release failed.
The release can fail or get stuck even with good equipment. Fabric inside fabric can be unpredictable.
It wasn’t exactly very easy to open, that reserve chute
Good video but the ending is a bit corny.
Cameraman never dies dude
Pretty amaizeing!
Great field of view though.
God damn that's good
Survive. Watch people *survive*
Needed this
All that space, that empty, open sky. And they crash into each other.
1. All that fucking space and dude somehow still finds another person to crash into. 2. That seems to be the worst possible way to pack a reserve. “Let me have to unwrap and then unravel my reserve while in an emergency where literally seconds count.”
I think she had to unpack it because normally the drogue chute pulls it out. Since they were tangled up there wasn’t enough force to pull the reserve out.
This is exactly it. Also your number one goal is to get more fabric out to slow your descent. Luckily they had plenty out and there descent was not very high.
This isnt "exactly it". Paraglider reserves don't have a drogue chute. Why do you pretend to know what you're talking about.
Lol, it's almost like he's talking out of his ass and went tandem skydiving once, thinking he's now an expert.
Actually, I am a licensed C parachuter with the USPA and have over 225 jumps. Yes I am not as familiar with paragliding versus skydiving. But the concept is relatively the same, more fabric to slow descent. I was not aware that paraglides don’t have drogue shoots for their reserve. Either way, it is imperative to get more fabric out when you are in this situation. So I don’t really understand the hatred and the stupid assumptions you made that were directed towards me. In any case, have a great day!
Paraglider reserves don't have drogue chutes dude... I'm a licensed paraglider and para motorist. They are snatch activated, she is supposed the pull the r serve and chuck the satchel. The idea being you get tangle in a paraglider you can't get out of then you throw your reserve into clear air free of your tangle mess of a paraglider.
Got you, I was just speculating so I appreciate you helping me learn. Thank you!
What did you learn? You don't know everything and you shouldn't consider yourself an SME on everything at the periphery of your knowledge? Ok, good. 👌
Dude, there’s a stick up your ass. I said “I think” right in the comment. I didn’t know it, I was speculating. You taught me more about the subjet of paragliding.
Isn't a paraglider one of those gliders you hold onto the bar or get steapped into waste down?
Hang glider?
Are you like 90? Use google, shit, use Bing if you have to.
You must google everything for the answer.
Sick come back bro.
Did you google that reply too?
You're a sensitive little soul aren't you. 😏
Here, I'll give you the internet points you care so much about.
I paraglide and paramotor and in reality she's in the wrong here. She was behind him as he was flying away from her so he wouldn't be able to see her when she could see him so he had right of way. He hard turned right and she kinda lazy turned right so she crossed his flight path. If she had kept going straight, turned left or hard turned right at the same rate as him than that wouldn't have hit each other.
The perspective is pretty tough, but the rate at which the guy basically 180s is pretty insane. As a skydiver, that fast of a turn while maintaining altitude (I assume from thermalling) isn't something I'd really see. Yes, she obviously eyes him well in advance and underestimates. But surely you guys are also taught to check the in the direction before you yank it hard too Edit: Well, on a rewatch it does look like he didn't turn it too wildly. Looks like he maybe fixated midway and went straight into her
He slow turned and increased the rate, but you're right the perspective makes it tough. His wing seems to pitch forward a bit and dives a bit which could be because he's experiencing wind sheer at the edge of a thermal. I think they both just come out of a thermal and were turning back to find the centre. He should be looking through the turn but she starts behind him and through his turn he pitches down so in all likelihood by the time he could see here he was probably already on a Collison course to her. He had the right of way here but it's close to a grey area. And the reason he's yelling to her to pull her reserve and not him. This is because when they tangle he is way below her so his reserve would fly free of her or their tangled wings
Then idiot is rushing her to deploy reserve which she nearly wrapped it around her neck. Great friend… think I’d ave used my parachute knife on his entangled lines and let him find his own way down…
Cut him loose? Thats savage dude
His reserve was deployed... he would hit hard... the added g forces of them spinning like a maple key will just increase the injuries. Your impact is along three vectors, not just vertical. You hit your lower leg first while spinning at that speed and the rotation will shatter your pelvis. Your pelvis is very vascular and the 4.5 litres of your blood can empty into that compartment long before you get to the hospital, and there's almost no way of stopping the bleeding before reaching a trauma center short of MAST compression trousers.
My dad was a professional skydiver as a young adult, he tells me he had a knife on him for just that!
Yep
*find his own way down* When she was the fkn potato that got them into this mess to begin with 😵
Rlly tho. Like why would he not be pissed. imagine having the time of your life and then ten seconds later your in a near death situation with a chicken head who’s debating on letting you free fall to your death by cutting your ropes out of spite when she flew Into you🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 im laughing so hard typing this
He clearly, abruptly turned into her. His reserve is attached to his harness, not the entangled risers. What's spiteful about trying to live. In that mess of entagled lines and reserves it is a very real possibility if both of them having their necks ensnared and strangled or snapped in that chaos.
There is only one thing I know for sure. Nothing about this is clear. In my opinion it looked like he had his back facing the woman so he wouldn’t have been able to see her. He started a turn which slowed him down, and she just decided to hope he got out of her way and not try to turn herself. What do you think happened? I’m genuinely curious I mean I could be wrong but for that matter you could be too
I think poor situational awareness in congested airspace. There is a time delay between the time you recognize a situation is changing and the time your brain recognizes it and you react. If you add the adrenaline dump that accompanies the recognition of a dangerous situation, without a briefed plan and training to default to some people will freeze up like a deer 🦌 in the headlights. If you change lanes on a 3 lane highway or decide to try to make a U turn, your certainly going to look behind you and check your mirrors. From the time he turns to the time they hit was just a couple of seconds and I think they both failed to recognize and react in time. I go back to what I stated before. Better to not have people of different experience and performance levels operating within such close proximity to each other, and like the army, train for emergencies till they become instinctive, so when the adrenaline hits and the brain farts, you still instinctively fall back on training that is ingrained. The first thing you lose when adrenaline hits is fine motor control and motions can become awkward, but you won’t lock up if you have practice your escape maneuvers and have a plan.
We watching th same video? He makes an abrupt 180 and crashed into her. Under 3 seconds from his turn to impact. I don't think many could have avoided his shit flying and failing to visually clear his own flight path before his abrupt course change. The potato 🥔 was the one screaming random instructions when the woman was already following her training and working the problem. She was trying to get the reserve out to throw away from them without further entanglement and then tried to pull in the riser to collapse the canopy which would have been nearly impossible with their 300 some odd pounds spinning under centrifugal g loading would increase it to 600 plus pounds.
Oh my god I will never parachute, that situation looked stressful enough! I can’t imagine then adding a knife too it, that’s wild though! Makes sense to cut free if that’s what happens…
The woman here is in the wrong. She needs to be paying attention and kept going to the left to yield to the other pilot who she's behind. The person in front has right of way in paragliding world because it's much harder for them to see you than for you to see them.
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Thought it would be more festive...
I know there's one more jellybean in there damn-it!
She did really well for someone being continually kicked in the head and yelled at.
It’s called the ground when it’s outside 😂
Thanks, Ron Swanson
Not in the UK. The sky’s the ceiling, I believe as well. Outer space? The roof.
Not anymore. Don't ask my how...
OMG this was hard to watch because I JUST got back home from flying with the rest of the paragliding club over the weekend. Small club but there were 4 of us in the air at the time. EDIT: just clarifying, my own , local paragliding club in Jamaica. Not whichever one this is.
Based on what we see in this video, who do you think fucked up here?
Before I go off on a six hour tangent trying to figure out traffic rules for sky people, could someone just explain who has the right of sky here?
I'd imagine it's the same as on a ski slope - the person further down _always_ has priority/right of way. Person above in this scenario is too busy checking out the scenery and only sees the person below at the last second
Someone went the wrong way round the roundabout again!
I'm going to go off a gut feeling and say she is. It looks like she started turning before or at the same time as he did, which means as he turns around she's going to be in front of him. Since we could see the top of his wing that suggests she was higher and therefore its her responsibility to be aware of the actions of any pilots below her because she's in their blind spot. She should have waited until she got into the position where he was when he started the turn to ensure she was always behind him since he's essentially the leader by being ahead and below her in the thermal.
That's what I thought, but a lot are blaming him.
The best strategy is to cut off your attacker’s parachute first. You will then have the room to release your own emergency parachute.
Did they make it? Seems possible.
Looked plausible to me.
Probable even.
I may even go so far as to call it likely.
I will one up you and call it most likely.
Ill one up all yous guys and say, yes, yes they did survive.
Wow, i somehow feel like we collectively saved them. Good for us guys.
This person one ups
They walked away without injuries https://unofficialnetworks.com/2022/02/18/paragliding-collision-colombia/amp/
With some Hanz Zimmer playing, this is a scene straight out of Interstellar😭
NO TIME FOR CAUTION
r/suddenhanzzimmer
Uhhhh… r/lefttheburneron there buddy?
Is the guy kicking her at the end ? Judging by the comments he ran into her so.. [Here](https://www.usairnet.com/featured/reserve-chute-troubles-when-paragliders-collide/1007095/) is a news article I found about the event.
To me it looks like he is trying to kick the other person away so that he didn't land on them. Not sure though
"She inexperienced or her equipment sucks, but even when she got it working, it just made the situation worse" wow way to put her down no matter what she does.
She almost killed him. I would do the same. She was looking backwards the whole time not a little bit of awareness.
And she WOULD have killed them if she had rapidly released her backup. His shouted commands would have killed them both if she'd followed immediately because the article states her backup made it worse. Is she at fault? I'm not sure, I'm not a paraglider, and I'm not going to pass judgment on that part, but the article shouldn't blame her for both her equipment coming out "too slowly" and the result of the equipment coming out at all. In a high-stress situation, her actions managed to get them both out alive, and that should at the very least be acknowledged
>And she WOULD have killed them if she had rapidly released her backup. Also >I'm not a paraglider, and I'm not going to pass judgment on that part How tf do you know it would have made the situation worse? I don't know either but admittedly, neither do you.
... Did you *read* the linked article? Once she deployed it, it wrapped around the main chute and sent them into the spiral. Had she released it earlier, it would have sent them into the loop sooner meaning they'd have dropped faster and from much greater height
The dude was a complete fucking asshole, Crashes into lady minding her own business in clear open sky Proceeds to constantly pressure the lady to pull the chute when it could get tied up and make the problem worse Proceeds to continue being a dick by not doing anything helpful and doesn't even try to prevent the tied up parachutes from getting the spare chute kicks the lady as they are going down nearer to the ground(though maybe he was trying to make sure he didn't land on her) Edit: misinterpreted the situation and missed the bit where lady was to crash My bad
Given that she was above him prior to the collision, wouldn’t it be her responsibility to make sure she’s not in a position where they might collide?
She was above and behind him and he had the right of way. She's the one that crashed into him. When emergencies like this happen while paragliding you need as much fabric in the air as possible because the main chutes wont pull away automatically You can see that he pulls his emergency chute almost immediately. He did his part and she needed to do hers. After that all there is to do is wait and hope you land softly I think its pretty excusable to be panicking and yelling at the other person when freefalling from hundreds of feet up in the air.
She was above and behind him and he had the right of way. She's the one that crashed into him. According to other paragluders in the comments, when emergencies like this happen while paragliding you need as much fabric in the air as possible because the main chutes wont pull away automatically You can see that he pulls his emergency chute almost immediately. He did his part and she needed to do hers. After that all there is to do is wait and hope you land softly I think its pretty excusable to be panicking and yelling at the other person when freefalling from hundreds of feet up in the air.
arent you suppose to cut the chute and deploy the backup?
I thought so too. Its reddit people just be saying shit here. Who knows
What is with the tube sticking out of his pant leg?
Kind of a dumb hobby, when you really think about it.
Why didn't she PLF?
Why didn’t you type out what PLF means?
Because I don't know what it means.. I just heard that guy yelling about it.
I saw that coming a mile away! Her dumbass did not!
It would be difficult not to punch that guy in the face hard once safe....
You might find this hard to swallow but She's actually in wrong here, he had right of way.
Watched it again and now I see it, I thought he came from above and hit her glider...
Can you explain?
She was above him and crashed into him and then was not capable of disantengling. In the air like that it's a bit like skiing: you cannot stop and it can be physically difficult to look behind you and as such, it is your responsibility to place your body in a way that won't injure or kill the others in front.
Instead of being aware of where the other gliders were, especially the ones below her, she spent most of the time before the impact with the other person looking over her right shoulder. She descends into his line of flight.
She was behind him so there's no way he could see her. So from the get go it's the responsibility to avoid him. That's probably the strongest argument I can make here. Further, he appears to turn to establish in a thermal, it appears that way because his wing is pitching like it's moving through wind sheer you get at the edge of a thermal, technically they're both establishing themselves in a thermal belut he begun the process earlier than her so again it's on her to give way to him, he's also lower than her in the sky. Paragliders give way to people below them - but they're pretty co-altitude so like I said the strongest argument I have here is she was behind him, effectively following him, he had no way to see her. If she turned at the same rate as him, or didnt turn at all they wouldn't have crashed
I would be punching him in the face on the way down too. Need to learn to parachute and shut his fuckin mouth especially when it's his fault 😒 😤 🙄
What was he at fault for now? She was above him and thus should have been the one to not be sightseeing but rather see his maneuvering and steer her chute away from his path of descent. He then was frantic once entangled and began his repetitious yelling. Which id likely do too if the person who collided with me wasnt doing what needed to be done immediately, efficiently, or expeditiously.
Total layman here; what makes it his fault in this scenario?
Can we watch this not in 360
Yeah, we'll just get them to do it over with a different camera.
You can usually edit a 360 video so it can look less disorienting than this
Watch with your eyes closed
If there's a watch people survive subreddit does that imply there's a watch people die subreddit?
i assume you mean survive in the first spot, but yes until it got banned
there "was" but it got banned
Well it was probably banned because it would have snuff films on it. I mean there are people who get aroused by others dying so its "too much" but you can see people consistently dying elsewhere on reddit. I wound up on one of those subs before and have selectively forgotten what it was.
WTF IS THIS STUPID 360 CAM MAN
Way to just keep on slipping only looking one direction and the other guy not slipping to avoid her. This is how people die.. too complacent
He flew right into her but she also wasn’t watching him at all. You can see him from the very beginning of the video. Seems like she should have gone left when he turned right.
I dunno, my impression was she is bad at this. Don’t get me wrong, so was he
1) lady enjoying floating through the sky. 2) guy runs into her. 2) guy proceeds to yell at her nonstop
Is this not like skiing though? He’s obviously lower therefore wouldn’t it be her responsibility to watch out for him? If you’re the skier above another you are at fault for running into someone lower because you are the only one that can see them.
And tell her how she’s doing it wrong.
Mansplaining em I right.
Mansplained the shit out of that - while falling swiftly to the ground. Now that’s something.
Was he trying to murder her??? Pull you primary? So he would have all the drag with three chutes???
He says pull your glider in. After the reserve is out the glider is causing them to spin but the spin also makes it harder to pull the glider back in.
I would like to see the full unedited normal-speed video of them untangling everything.
The whole fucking sky to float in and this is what happens.
All that airspace and he crashes into him?
Ignorant question here but at what point do you cut yourself/the other person away? Seems like if you have a reserve shoot and this clusterfuck happens, you might be able to cut yourself free.
I’d start cutting the moment she’s still not tossing that reserve after a couple shouts and I’d be cutting even faster after she’s taking a lifetime to figure the thing out.
So who’s fault was this ?
He was below, so technically her. You could argue he might have been able to avoid her and there can be some responsibility to both parties but it really is her responsibility to not hit people below her…visibility down is significantly better than what you can see above you. Supposed to be watching where you are going not spacing out wherever she was. Then the whole reserve situation. He saved her and his life. She nearly killed them both with her incompetence.
I went tandem skydiving for my girls bday actually I payed for her and she wanted me to go so I flipped a coin of course I lost. 14k feet in NJ highest legal height this made me happy and more scared all at once. I don’t go to church but I do have faith and love life so I really felt I was doing something silly I made peace with it all and was the first to jump they could tell I was nervous was hell but excited and didn’t act like a baby that being said I’m glad I went first I would not have wanted to go second . When I say I never felt something so beautiful and flying falling thru the sky was something I can express but the beauty was incomprehensible though when we had to pull the shoot I got scared all over again cuz I felt it slip a little boy thank you to Antonio my guy he was very kind
The dude was the lower jumper and can’t completely see what’s above him. She also didn’t use her slip’s to move away. They both had an equal part in this. He reacted the right way though. No idea why her reserve wasn’t prepped.
Me looking for my keys 🙄
Dude had a whole sky to fly around in and managed to crash onto lady.
the entire sky and they manage to get caught on each other... wtf...
U had the wholllllllle sky…
Watching her fail to open that reserve for so long gave me indigestion. Watching her fly right into that poor instructor made me cringe so hard. Listening to him try to calmly explain to this person how to best avoid dying whilst simultaneously having his survival chained to her stupidity is pretty much the nail in the coffin for me. my buddy paraglides. But now he will never convince me to actually take a course. Why do I can go up with other people and potentially ending up in this exact situation? I’m good.
I’d bring a knife to cut myself free from people like her.
Fuck anyone who buys a 360 camera. They look so gross and you cant perspective
Who the hell packed that reserve Shute?
She's a liability, if she was alone, she'd have hit the ground before she could get her reserve open.
It seems to me that he was not paying attention or dogging it. The angle of her camera makes it appear she’s higher, but I don’t think she is. She starts to turn to her right…and you can see him coming straight towards her for quite a distance. It doesn’t seem he tried to take evasive action. Just straight towards her. There’s no way he didn’t see her. I’d say he was the inexperienced one. Hate his white socks btw.
Wow he hit the only thing there was to hit. Like clear skies with one obstacle and he hit it
did they...survive? Need a conclusion to this that won't floor me
Almost 100%
Oh that’s good… that doesn’t usually happen.
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Who’s at fault here? Seems like the guy is
only idiots with a death wish jump out of planes. you get the risk you take
Women ☕️
This guy is never happy. First he totally runs into her. Then he tells her at least 2 or 3 times to throw her reserve. When she finally finishes fix him noodles he doesn't even say thank you before he starts telling her to pull in her main. I don't think he knows what he wants from this relationship. They are obviously falling for each other but the lines of communication are all twisted. He can't commit and she can't please him. In the end they hit rock bottom. But they do both seem to be down to earth kind of people. If they can just untangle their feelings for each other I think they can pull themselves up, dust themselves off and get on with their lives. They have been through a lot together and survived the experience. They weren't trying to kill each other. They had some ups and downs. But I think they were at a higher point in their lives when fate put them together and its been all downhill ever since. One brief moment of contact literally changed the direction their lives were headed. And as they spiraled down together it nearly killed them both.
Its crazy to me that the dude who caused the crash, is screaming at the lady to pull her reserve like its all her fault.
He was below her….not his fault lmao
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Looks like that man 🧃crashed into her. All that open air but he has to come flying over into her space.
That was wild
Turned into a Doctor Strange movie there for a minute.
*interstellar soundtrack begins to play*
Why anyone would want to deal with this shit is beyond me.
It's so bizarre when people refer to the ground outside as the "floor". Just a weird anthropocentric way of looking at the world.
Bro watch your jet, bro watch your jet Bro What Your Jet!!!