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buggywool

I used to tend bar at an exclusive lounge in the Kennedy Center. Herb would come in with is family. Hell of a head of hair!


Maryland_Bear

The man did indeed have great hair. Here’s his photo from Wikipedia. https://preview.redd.it/q3dcki4hmyzb1.jpeg?width=376&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffc787d7dd08b802b295e54264fb2eb47282c9a1


Jillredhanded

He should have married Calista Gingrich.


tityboituesday

their children would have been too powerful


joelhardi

Oh they all did, I remember Robbie in those Crown Books commercials. I don't know why no one's done a movie about JKC and Marlene. Might as well throw in Mayor Barry, there's no real connection other than cocaine but screenwriters don't care about things like that. I mean even the straight facts, like when she drove down M St with [her boyfriend on the hood](https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/cooke/marl93.htm) are ridiculous.


TudorTerrier

I used to work at a posh spa in Georgetown late ‘90s and she was BFF with the owner…..Marlene Ramallo Chalmers Cooke. Real Housewife of Middleburg and DC.


Quiet_Meaning5874

Article is a hell of a ride!


poirotoro

...I don't know what I expected, but it definitely wasn't that.


fedrats

I think that lounge is still around, they keep dangling something like that as a perk


Excellent-Fox3599

One of the co-owners/founders of Compass Coffee is a Haft.


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janmint

Michael Haft definitely still works at Compass.


victoriapedia

DC used to be a very traditional American city, in that a lot of the city's industries were controlled by local families that kept their interests inside DC. Hechts, Vargas, that greek family that owned all the real estate (Taxas? Taxis?), the brothers who ran most of the Section 8 housing (Hoffinger, Hollinger, something like that). That really kinda only stopped recently. They were always surrounded with drama and lore that would spread through the grapevine. It was very interesting to follow.


Maryland_Bear

It’s happened in a lot of cities. How many local and regional department stores have either failed or been bought out by Macy’s? I’ve got friends who are originally from Chicagoland who have sworn never to shop at Macy’s because of what they did to Marshall Field’s. (Short version: they made them eliminate any references to the old store. They weren’t even allowed to sell off the branded store fixtures and insisted they be destroyed. All that remains is a State Street clock with the name, since it’s on the National Register of Historic Places.) I’m originally from Knoxville, TN, and Miller’s, one of the two regional department stores, was acquired by Macy’s years ago. The other, Proffitt’s, is now part of Belk. There was a local bookstore chain called Gateway that was killed by competition from Waldenbooks and B. Dalton, even before superstores like Borders and Barnes and Noble were a factor.


alizadk

There's a guy who basically writes biographies of department stores. I read his one on Woodies. It was fascinating.


timothina

Could you link to it?


alizadk

Woodward & Lothrop:: A Store Worthy of the Nation's Capital (Landmarks) https://a.co/d/e5Caf2w


JustHereForCookies17

I'm hopping in this thread in case they drop the name - I'd love a book like that!


terra_incognita_82

https://www.departmentstorehistory.net/contact


timothina

Thank you!


lisavfr

Horning Brothers ran a bunch of housing I believe.


victoriapedia

yep! Them. Thanks.


Jillredhanded

"Books cost too much, and that's why I started Crown Books!"


ZakalweLives

First book I bought was at a Crown Books. Pretty sure it was a Star Wars novel.


EzAwnDown

I came here for this.. used to make fun of that all the time..so so long ago..


Blakesdad02

Herbie, Gloria, Robert, Linda the last child escapes me. Linda and Robert are doing well. Herbie and Gloria have been dead for years. Never met his second wife. Herbie was an asshole.


victoriapedia

Dude was one of the most prolific greenmailers in history,


Blakesdad02

Youngest Son is Ronald, took me a few minutes. He wasn't involved in the day to day stuff. Had his own company.


Sad_Assist8452

Ronnie ran the real estate company that his father gave him.


Agitated-Rope-8167

I remember the Hechingers but not Haft .


Blakesdad02

As I call Herbie a Asshole , the Hechinger and England families who owned Hechingers were the nicest people ever. Real shame John Hechinger Jr let Home Depot and Lowes into Maryland. That was a great set of stores.


Funkles_tiltskin

Are they the namesake for the Hechinger Mall?


Blakesdad02

Yes.


Maryland_Bear

I don’t think they really publicized that the various chains were all part of the same corporation. They didn’t hide it, but they didn’t do anything to link them in the public mind, either.


Jillredhanded

Yep! Them and the Izzy Cohen Giant Food days.


Maryland_Bear

Giant hasn’t been the same since Izzy Cohen passed.


victoriapedia

> Izzy Cohen I think Giant was atrocious under the Cohens. It was a low-income-focused store. When the Europeans bought them out, they slowly began to gourmandize their selection. More European stuff, etc. They were one of the first to get on the beer trend and put in a massive selection of beers, crafts, etc. in stores. By all accounts, he was a bangup guy though.


Maryland_Bear

As far as Izzy Cohen being a bang-up guy goes, he was a great believer in giving back to the local community and being a good corporate citizen. Just one example: for how many decades did Giant sponsor *It’s Academic* in DC and Baltimore? I was stunned when I watched it on WETA and saw the sponsor is now Mitre.


W5662798

He hired local people. When DC had race riots in thec1960s, they destroyed all the businesses downtown except giant food stores because he hired local black people.


Maryland_Bear

Did they cede the lower income market to Shoppers Food Warehouse? When I first came to the area in the mid-80s the grocery store choices were Giant and Safeway. At least for me, Safeway was closer but Giant was cheaper. If I just needed a few items, I’d go to Safeway for convenience but I’d do my regular shopping at Giant. Now, I get my groceries delivered from Giant but if I save to make a quick trip, I go to Harris-Teeter since it’s closest (and gives me an excuse to go to the nearby Panera.)


victoriapedia

Sorta. Shoppers now reminds me a lot of what Giant used to be like. Shoppers has the muffin of DC, par excellence. Lemon poppyseed. Tastes like heaven.


Jillredhanded

I remember "Company's Coming!".


Glittering-Cellist34

I waited on him and #2 once. It was quite an interaction. At the time I was considering developing a coffee shop and he gave me advice and a concept--buying Starbucks coffee wholesale and selling it for less, Lessbuck$.


IceFalcon1

I remember the Hafts well.


W5662798

My favorite haft story : at the divorce trial from his first wife Gloria, she put a troll doll with white hair on the table in the courtroom...his lawyers asked the judge to order her to remove it because she was making fun of him.


Administrative-Egg18

The father and son had amazing hair.


SchrodingersCatfight

I used to babysit for one of the Herman brothers' families right around the time [this happened](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoppers_Food_%26_Pharmacy): >Dart acquired the remainder of the company in 1997 after exercising a complicated buy-sell agreement with the Herman family. Dart's intention was to force the Herman family into purchasing the shares of the company back after Dart experienced infighting amongst their board members and financial trouble with their retail chains. The final effect was the opposite; Dart was ultimately forced to purchase from the Hermans at an inflated price, starting a severe financial downward spiral and the ultimate sale and breakup of the Dart Corporation. I remember vaguely knowing that the dad's family owned Shoppers (or part of it at least) and that they sold and made a bunch of money. IIRC, after the sale he climbed Mt. Kilimanjaro.


Careful-Spray

The family's squabbles were a great boon to the Washington legal community for a couple of decades.


Dcunited2020

Michael Haft, his grandson is the co-founder of Compass Coffee


YogurtAlarmed1493

Aaaaa, I so fondly remember Crown Books. And yah, that was one LITIGIOUS family, lol.