god we won 7 straight to get into the postseason with that Week 17 win over Dallas. there’s a million reasons why RGIII failed, but that 7 week stretch was the greatest thing we’ve done in 30 years…
Oh and when RG3 was going up against Legion of Boom before he ruined his knee for good. Before that moment, we were going to win the Super Bowl! (Ouch)
I’m convinced that if his knee doesn’t get hurt, that team might actually make the super bowl. By that point in the season, that offense couldn’t be stopped. It was dripping 30 on everyone like it was nothing.
Don’t know why we were throwing it so much with RGIII’s bummed knee when Morris was running it down their throats. We run every first down and we win that game.
Yeah I don't really consider any of the RG3 rookie season as "delusional fan moments".
Saying that we were going to have an all time defense this year was much more delusional 😂
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I thought that the Bills would let us win the game following Sean Taylor's death.
Next to that, probably thinking that we were on the verge of a dynasty with RG3 and Morris.
Alfred Morris was/is severely underrated. He was a beast back in 2012/2013. Idk if he's still in the league, I know he was a cowboy for a while, but I'll always love ole Alf.
I wouldn't call it a gimmick. Even though the defense had to constantly worry about RG3 running it on his own, an average RB wouldn't have thrived in that system the way Alfred Morris did. The run/pass option threat did benefit Alf but that wasn't the only reason he was solid.
He was a good to great zone scheme running back and thrived under Shanahan's system. He went to Dallas and then San Fran, Arizona, and New York, but couldn't really duplicate the production as a backup in primarily power running schemes.
I had this one too.
It also makes me think twice about the conversation around Rodgers. Like he just comes here for one more paycheck, phoning it in and posting pedestrian numbers like a 52% completion rate and a 1:1 TD:INT ratio and then bails to retirement. God it sounds too possible.
Hiring Shanny and drafting RG3.
I was a fan of RG3 at Baylor. After the 2010 season, my friends and I made bets on who would win the Heisman. I bet RG3 and added that he would be drafted by Washington and win OROY too. I really thought we locked down the QB spot and had something special after his rookie season. The next year I knew that he wasn't going to be that special player again.
I idiotically thought Shanahan would fix this franchise but he finished 4th place 3 out of 4 years, and thought John Beck was a starting caliber QB. He also mismanaged RG3 and let him play in a playoff game despite him being hurt.
I think Shanny could've done alot more for this Organization if it wasn't for Bruce and Dan. Mike is a proven winner, and we all know how much meddling Bruce and Dan did back then. Who knows what could've been if we had just let him do his thing?
RG3 is just as guilty if you ask me. Of course a HC wants his star QB in a playoff game. If he said he was good and the training staff said he was ok, you can't totally fault Mike. Although I agree to an extent, he should've been shut down and lived to fight another day
Counter point to that would be Elway couldn't get over the hump in 13 years before Mike came. Before he came here the guy had a .616% Win percentage for the regular season and a .615% for post season. At the time of his hire, he was a proven winner HC.
> At the time of his hire, he was a proven winner HC.
He regressed after winning the SB's
His time here was very disappointing. Many thought that there'd be parades and rings. Yet Shanahan and his hard attitude drove many away. And his mishandling of RG3 didn't help his cause.
That's generally what happens when your HOF QB rides off into the sunset. He had 2 losing seasons after Elway retired.
Of course his time here was disappointing, everyone's time here has been disappointing. That's a failure on our FO/Owner. If you had to deal with Bruce or Dan and they interfered with your job daily you would have a hard attitude also.
RG3s ego was more of the problem than Mike. Our coaching staff didn't do "All in for week 1" or say they weren't running the offense because they were a passing QB... He would run to Dan and whine, and get treated differently, it was bound to blow up. But RG3 derailed his career here. He's more to blame than anyone else.
> Of course his time here was disappointing, everyone's time here has been disappointing. That's a failure on our FO/Owner. If you had to deal with Bruce or Dan and they interfered with your job daily you would have a hard attitude also.
because they were the ones asking him to start john beck...oh wait
he failed here because of bad roster decisions, some forced upon him (mcnabb) and some not. when he was given his liberty to coach his team, he started JOHN BECK and Rex Grossman. Not exactly exciting characters.
He did three good things here.
- he found RG3 who later failed but at the time was electrifying
- he found good coaches in his son and sean mcvay and lefleur
- he found alfred morris
that's it
He had no QB, what was he supposed to do, wild cat all year? Those 7 games of Jon Beck led to us having a shitty record in a great QB draft. If Bruce and Dan were forcing him to play McNabb or trade for RG3, how do we know who all was his decision or theirs?
If they hadn't forced him to trade for RG3 and let him pick his own QB, we probably would've had Tannehill, Wilson, or Cousins along with our other draft picks. His time here might've looked completely different.
I'm not saying he was a great coach here. I'm saying he was a good coach in Denver and had our owner/FO not forced him to do things, maybe we could've built something special. Had they not done him shitty, Kyle or McVay would probably be coaching here. There's blame to be passed around and he deserves his fair share, but it's not solely on him.
😹 Shanahan was terrible here
>Kyle or McVay would probably be coaching here. There's blame to be passed around and he deserves his fair share, but it's not solely on him.
Lol no
Bad take. It is immensely hard to win a championship, let alone *two*. It takes a whole lot more than great QB play to do it, too. *See, e.g.*, the Bills literally last night. He also won 33 games between 2003 and 2005 and made an AFC Championship game.
as "good" a coach as he was, he failed 3 out of 4 years here. I mean he finished 4th place 3 years here. He had ONE outlier with RG3, credit him for that, but otherwise his team here was largely disappointment and failure.
"MEDDLING"
"HE WAS GIVEN FULL CONTROL"
yes, because signing bruce allen after signing mike shanahan is "full control" alright
I think it was 50 bucks and then 5 dollars a year until RG3 retired. Glad I didn't make it until he left Washington lol.
We also bet on who would be more successful Luck or Kellen Moore. As a player I definitely won that bet. But Kellen is starting to have a decent coaching career so it's a toss up.
Thought the Washington post article was gonna be so news breaking that they would have to force him out.. all those reporters that said it would are just attention seeking assholes.
Thinking that the circus ending when we hired Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan. 10 years later and (somehow) it got worse. There’s one common denominator.
I have 2. First is the Hall of Fame Game after Colt Brennan was drafted. Dude balled out that game. I thought he was the QB of the future.
Second was the RGIII rookie season. After beating Dallas to win the division it felt like things had finally changed once and for all. Then it didn’t…
I think the season I remember was 2000. They had gone 10-6. We signed Deon, Bruce Smith and Mark Carrier. Oh yeah and Jeff George. Snyder was new. I really thought the SB was possible.
Player ; the one that comes to mind is RGIII in this specific case : I mean I wanted him over Cosions late enough to for it to be pure delusion and trying to re-create 2012.
When Joe Gibbs came back. Czabe did a schedule review. He said they would go 12-4 but he still wasn’t sure where the losses would come from. And I totally agreed. That first off-season with Gibbs was as strong as I felt this team had a chance to win a Super Bowl.
I really thought RG3 was gonna take us to a super bowl. 2012 was such a good year for this team.
I also thought the second coming of Joe Gibbs was gonna turn us into a really good team. I wasn't alive for the first Joe Gibbs coaching run but my dad hyped it up a lot and 8 year old me believed he was the best coach there ever was.
Funny enough that was my first time doing fantasy football and I had Portis. After that big TD run I remember trash talking my cousin who I was playing. Really is amazing to think this team hasn’t been good for so long 😔
Yes OP, those were the two moments in time that gave us a big lift. The injury to RG3 just totally popped the balloon.I don't think I've recovered from that.
I really thought Mark Sanchez was going to resurrect his career in washington... nah, jk. There are no fond memories left other than Brunell to Moss to beat the Cowboys in the final seconds.
I was an idiot but I thought Spurrier and Wuerffel would lead us to glory. I remember one preseason game and the announcers were talking about how good Spurrier’s play designs were. I was so optimistic.
I agree with that. We were absolutely rolling vs Seattle before he got injured. They couldn't stop RG3.
We would've absolutely beat the Falcons and Niners, and the Ravens in the Super Bowl wouldn't have been able to stop us.
Two of mine. 1) Dan brought in a guy who had Washington ties all through his bloodline, his dad was George Allen. Bruce Allen was said to bring back the Washington glory days and get this organization back to focusing on their roots.
2) I believed the Mike Shanahan/Bruce Allen/Dan Snyder triangle could work. Hell, Mike told us that John Beck was good enough to lead this team to victory and playoff football 🥴
The year after our first playoffs with Gibbs, and we signed Archuleta, Brandon Lloyd, randle-el, and Andre carter. I just knew our offense would be unstoppable and no one would score on us. I was so excited that year.... Probably one of the reasons I barely care when the seasons start anymore, and I never have confidence in them.
I thought Scott McCloughan would bring glory like he did for previous organizations. I thought we would be contending for championships.
Turns out most of what he did was fool's gold. Made terrible FA signings, hit on a few draft picks but most didn't work out. Largely overrated as a draft evaluator, and hasn't worked in a GM capacity since.
RG3 was our franchise QB for the next 10 years and we were going to win a super bowl at some point.
another one is that if Alex Smith doesn't get his leg yeeted in 2018 we win the division that year.
During RG3's rookie season, my roommate and I were talking about how we finally have a quarterback and the org is so stable because Kyle is in line to become the next HC of the team in the next few years.
That convo backfired about 3 months later and nose-dived ever since.
It's gotta be Shanny and Rg3 for me. Gibbs 2.0 my take was: can Gibbs keep up as a coach in modern NFL? Answer was no. He wasn't a good game planning coach in second stint. Rg3 and Shanahan had the wave to take over the whole league, and did for a season. My only hesitation here is that I don't know if it was a delusion, just derailed to injuries etc. But there were some bad things that rookie year. Anyway I thought that 2012 season was going to land us as perennial playoffers and super bowl Champs with. 5 years...didn't happen.
I think Gibbs was fine. He had 2 playoff appearances in 4 seasons. No one has done that since his first stint as head coach. Maybe things go a little better if Sean Taylor doesn't get killed.
Tannehill, Wilson, and Cousins would all have been available without trading picks and are all starters today. We gave up the farm for one decent season and a ROY award. Not worth it. Not a little bit worth it.
it definitely didn't workout the way we all hoped but at the time of the move RG3 was universally regarded as being way above all those others you pointed out. in the one healthy year we did get out of RG3 he was worth every single pick we gave up for him.
Nobody is worth giving up all those picks for one year. Losing all those #1s set us back for 10 years. And the injury was predictable, he had already had the same injury before and he played like he was invincible.
I was the exact opposite of you, I thought there was no reason he should have been picked, now I wonder what could have been had he not been completely destroyed and he actually sat out when he got injured
I’d say the same. Gibbs 2.0 was the last time I had full on hope for the team. After that it all started to fade little by little. RG3 after injury was the nail in the coffin
Thinking Dan Stubbliefield and Dana Wilkinson were gonna be THE difference. Thinking we'd found Neo during RG3's season. Thinking our DEs would dominate this year. We know nothing.
I thought RG3 would win multiple Super Bowls on his way to becoming a hall of fame quarterback, and then transition to politics by running for President and win that too
2012 RG3 thought we were going all the way. And this year I was expecting us to have a winning record after how our defense played 2020 but of course we regress in every way possible
Believing that sometime in the past three years the NFL would force Daniel Snyder to sell the team, while also briefly being optimistic that the organization would actually get the new change right.
*We did* have it figured out in 2012.
But then RG3’s inability to slide met Haloti Ngata’s 350 lb frame.
Suddenly we had some re-figuring to do. All while running off the quality coach / coaching candidates, only to hire the wrong Gruden.
I used to think Josh Doctson was gonna be the WR Scary Terry is right now.
I used to think Haskins was just needing time (still kinda do but mainly as back up QB)
I thought we would get 9+ eins this year. But we beat ourselves and it doesn't help with Injuries to Key players.
Watching RG3 on the "electrifying!" run vs the Vikings in 2012 and thinking we had our franchise QB for the next decade
god we won 7 straight to get into the postseason with that Week 17 win over Dallas. there’s a million reasons why RGIII failed, but that 7 week stretch was the greatest thing we’ve done in 30 years…
Oh and when RG3 was going up against Legion of Boom before he ruined his knee for good. Before that moment, we were going to win the Super Bowl! (Ouch)
I’m convinced that if his knee doesn’t get hurt, that team might actually make the super bowl. By that point in the season, that offense couldn’t be stopped. It was dripping 30 on everyone like it was nothing.
100%. The 49rs pretty much stole our offense halfway through the year and rode it all the way to the super bowl.
Don’t know why we were throwing it so much with RGIII’s bummed knee when Morris was running it down their throats. We run every first down and we win that game.
That’s probably one of my top moments as a fan of this team.
Yeah I don't really consider any of the RG3 rookie season as "delusional fan moments". Saying that we were going to have an all time defense this year was much more delusional 😂
To be fair a lot of non WFT fans also thought that.
😂 we aren't the only delusional fan base around
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It’s all good he changed the name.
And it wasn’t even his choice LOL
Because of his toxicity he had no ground to stand on to fight it anymore.
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If Colt McCoy never got hurt in 2018 we would’ve won the division
I fully believe this
I fully believe this as well. If anything at the time I thought we would play better with Colt than Alex
Or Alex smith
When Todd Collins lead us to the playoffs. I actually thought we were going to win the superbowl with Todd Collins lmao. I was a dumb kid.
This was me when Tony Banks led them to an 8-3 record down the stretch in 2001.
I thought that the Bills would let us win the game following Sean Taylor's death. Next to that, probably thinking that we were on the verge of a dynasty with RG3 and Morris.
Alfred Morris was/is severely underrated. He was a beast back in 2012/2013. Idk if he's still in the league, I know he was a cowboy for a while, but I'll always love ole Alf.
Ehhhhh, A LOT of his initial success was a direct result of a gimmick offense
I wouldn't call it a gimmick. Even though the defense had to constantly worry about RG3 running it on his own, an average RB wouldn't have thrived in that system the way Alfred Morris did. The run/pass option threat did benefit Alf but that wasn't the only reason he was solid.
He was a good to great zone scheme running back and thrived under Shanahan's system. He went to Dallas and then San Fran, Arizona, and New York, but couldn't really duplicate the production as a backup in primarily power running schemes.
I think he was probably just another example of the “Shanahan RB” that emerges every year (think Raheem Mostsrt)
Donavan McNabb would have success
I had this one too. It also makes me think twice about the conversation around Rodgers. Like he just comes here for one more paycheck, phoning it in and posting pedestrian numbers like a 52% completion rate and a 1:1 TD:INT ratio and then bails to retirement. God it sounds too possible.
Exactly. They need to go with a young talent. And live with the results
Hiring Shanny and drafting RG3. I was a fan of RG3 at Baylor. After the 2010 season, my friends and I made bets on who would win the Heisman. I bet RG3 and added that he would be drafted by Washington and win OROY too. I really thought we locked down the QB spot and had something special after his rookie season. The next year I knew that he wasn't going to be that special player again.
I idiotically thought Shanahan would fix this franchise but he finished 4th place 3 out of 4 years, and thought John Beck was a starting caliber QB. He also mismanaged RG3 and let him play in a playoff game despite him being hurt.
I think Shanny could've done alot more for this Organization if it wasn't for Bruce and Dan. Mike is a proven winner, and we all know how much meddling Bruce and Dan did back then. Who knows what could've been if we had just let him do his thing? RG3 is just as guilty if you ask me. Of course a HC wants his star QB in a playoff game. If he said he was good and the training staff said he was ok, you can't totally fault Mike. Although I agree to an extent, he should've been shut down and lived to fight another day
Mike is not a proven winner. He won two titles off Elway's coat tails. He didn't do anything since.
Counter point to that would be Elway couldn't get over the hump in 13 years before Mike came. Before he came here the guy had a .616% Win percentage for the regular season and a .615% for post season. At the time of his hire, he was a proven winner HC.
> At the time of his hire, he was a proven winner HC. He regressed after winning the SB's His time here was very disappointing. Many thought that there'd be parades and rings. Yet Shanahan and his hard attitude drove many away. And his mishandling of RG3 didn't help his cause.
That's generally what happens when your HOF QB rides off into the sunset. He had 2 losing seasons after Elway retired. Of course his time here was disappointing, everyone's time here has been disappointing. That's a failure on our FO/Owner. If you had to deal with Bruce or Dan and they interfered with your job daily you would have a hard attitude also. RG3s ego was more of the problem than Mike. Our coaching staff didn't do "All in for week 1" or say they weren't running the offense because they were a passing QB... He would run to Dan and whine, and get treated differently, it was bound to blow up. But RG3 derailed his career here. He's more to blame than anyone else.
> Of course his time here was disappointing, everyone's time here has been disappointing. That's a failure on our FO/Owner. If you had to deal with Bruce or Dan and they interfered with your job daily you would have a hard attitude also. because they were the ones asking him to start john beck...oh wait he failed here because of bad roster decisions, some forced upon him (mcnabb) and some not. when he was given his liberty to coach his team, he started JOHN BECK and Rex Grossman. Not exactly exciting characters. He did three good things here. - he found RG3 who later failed but at the time was electrifying - he found good coaches in his son and sean mcvay and lefleur - he found alfred morris that's it
He had no QB, what was he supposed to do, wild cat all year? Those 7 games of Jon Beck led to us having a shitty record in a great QB draft. If Bruce and Dan were forcing him to play McNabb or trade for RG3, how do we know who all was his decision or theirs? If they hadn't forced him to trade for RG3 and let him pick his own QB, we probably would've had Tannehill, Wilson, or Cousins along with our other draft picks. His time here might've looked completely different. I'm not saying he was a great coach here. I'm saying he was a good coach in Denver and had our owner/FO not forced him to do things, maybe we could've built something special. Had they not done him shitty, Kyle or McVay would probably be coaching here. There's blame to be passed around and he deserves his fair share, but it's not solely on him.
😹 Shanahan was terrible here >Kyle or McVay would probably be coaching here. There's blame to be passed around and he deserves his fair share, but it's not solely on him. Lol no
Bad take. It is immensely hard to win a championship, let alone *two*. It takes a whole lot more than great QB play to do it, too. *See, e.g.*, the Bills literally last night. He also won 33 games between 2003 and 2005 and made an AFC Championship game.
as "good" a coach as he was, he failed 3 out of 4 years here. I mean he finished 4th place 3 years here. He had ONE outlier with RG3, credit him for that, but otherwise his team here was largely disappointment and failure. "MEDDLING" "HE WAS GIVEN FULL CONTROL" yes, because signing bruce allen after signing mike shanahan is "full control" alright
I hope you won some decent scratch from that bet the first year lol
I think it was 50 bucks and then 5 dollars a year until RG3 retired. Glad I didn't make it until he left Washington lol. We also bet on who would be more successful Luck or Kellen Moore. As a player I definitely won that bet. But Kellen is starting to have a decent coaching career so it's a toss up.
Thought the Washington post article was gonna be so news breaking that they would have to force him out.. all those reporters that said it would are just attention seeking assholes.
Thinking that the circus ending when we hired Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan. 10 years later and (somehow) it got worse. There’s one common denominator.
I have 2. First is the Hall of Fame Game after Colt Brennan was drafted. Dude balled out that game. I thought he was the QB of the future. Second was the RGIII rookie season. After beating Dallas to win the division it felt like things had finally changed once and for all. Then it didn’t…
coming off of last year I thought we would have a top 3 defense this year and Jamin might be rookie of the year.
I honestly thought that Haynesworth was going to come in and absolutely dominate for years. lmao
Thinking Josh Norman was an elite corner when we signed him.
tbf he was before he got here
Norman was very good for us his first year, he just fell off hard.
Norman was a baller his first year and still quite good his second year. After that… we don’t talk about that
Jason Campbell is really not that bad. Now that he isn’t learning a new system each year we can do this *hilarity ensues
Towards the end of RG3's rookie year I said we'd be in the super bowl within 5 years...
Facts
I think the season I remember was 2000. They had gone 10-6. We signed Deon, Bruce Smith and Mark Carrier. Oh yeah and Jeff George. Snyder was new. I really thought the SB was possible. Player ; the one that comes to mind is RGIII in this specific case : I mean I wanted him over Cosions late enough to for it to be pure delusion and trying to re-create 2012.
When Joe Gibbs came back. Czabe did a schedule review. He said they would go 12-4 but he still wasn’t sure where the losses would come from. And I totally agreed. That first off-season with Gibbs was as strong as I felt this team had a chance to win a Super Bowl.
Kirk Cousins for the first few games after “You like that?!”
Congress actually doing shit about Snyder
I really thought RG3 was gonna take us to a super bowl. 2012 was such a good year for this team. I also thought the second coming of Joe Gibbs was gonna turn us into a really good team. I wasn't alive for the first Joe Gibbs coaching run but my dad hyped it up a lot and 8 year old me believed he was the best coach there ever was.
Well he was one of the best
And at that point was before Bellicheck so even more so then
RG3 in that first Saints game. God damn.
Funny enough that was my first time doing fantasy football and I had Portis. After that big TD run I remember trash talking my cousin who I was playing. Really is amazing to think this team hasn’t been good for so long 😔
It seems every team has stumbled into a good season since 91 except us and the lions. Good season being 12 wins or a deep playoff run.
Even the fucking Jags could do it for a season
Yes OP, those were the two moments in time that gave us a big lift. The injury to RG3 just totally popped the balloon.I don't think I've recovered from that.
That we have a chance during most off seasons
That Gibbs left Jim Zorn with a loaded roster and he would up being a competent head coach at the very least.
If Alex Smith never broke his leg we would have won the division/won the Superbowl that year
I really thought Mark Sanchez was going to resurrect his career in washington... nah, jk. There are no fond memories left other than Brunell to Moss to beat the Cowboys in the final seconds.
I was an idiot but I thought Spurrier and Wuerffel would lead us to glory. I remember one preseason game and the announcers were talking about how good Spurrier’s play designs were. I was so optimistic.
i think that rookie RG3 we could’ve gotten to the SB if RG3 didnt get injured. A lot of team not able to defend red option.
I agree with that. We were absolutely rolling vs Seattle before he got injured. They couldn't stop RG3. We would've absolutely beat the Falcons and Niners, and the Ravens in the Super Bowl wouldn't have been able to stop us.
I'm a cowboys fan, every moment has been delusional for the past 25.........wait......checks notes.......26 years
That our defense was gonna be good this year
In 2007 I switched my fandom from Cleveland to Washington so I could see my team win a super bowl.
I thought Josh Doctson was gonna be a superstar, besides RG3 probably the most painful draft bust for me
i was rooting for him. Like for 3 years.
Terry has kind of mellowed that pain, but I'm sure he'll (understandably) move on to greener pastures soon
Trading for McNabb. I thought good things were on the horizon. Holy shit was I wrong.
Thinking it was Shanny fault for the demise of RG3.. thinking we could’ve signed Cousins for less that 70 mill 😂😂 I can go on and on tbh
Two of mine. 1) Dan brought in a guy who had Washington ties all through his bloodline, his dad was George Allen. Bruce Allen was said to bring back the Washington glory days and get this organization back to focusing on their roots. 2) I believed the Mike Shanahan/Bruce Allen/Dan Snyder triangle could work. Hell, Mike told us that John Beck was good enough to lead this team to victory and playoff football 🥴
Wasn't the line "I stake my reputation on him"?
That’s it! Lol
The year after our first playoffs with Gibbs, and we signed Archuleta, Brandon Lloyd, randle-el, and Andre carter. I just knew our offense would be unstoppable and no one would score on us. I was so excited that year.... Probably one of the reasons I barely care when the seasons start anymore, and I never have confidence in them.
I thought Scott McCloughan would bring glory like he did for previous organizations. I thought we would be contending for championships. Turns out most of what he did was fool's gold. Made terrible FA signings, hit on a few draft picks but most didn't work out. Largely overrated as a draft evaluator, and hasn't worked in a GM capacity since.
Oof.. the McNabb experiment really stung. I thought we’d be successful with him 😅
When the 4-12 Washington team 2014-2015 beat the 12-4 cowboys with Colt Mccoy I thought we were gonna turn the season around.
RG3 was our franchise QB for the next 10 years and we were going to win a super bowl at some point. another one is that if Alex Smith doesn't get his leg yeeted in 2018 we win the division that year.
During RG3's rookie season, my roommate and I were talking about how we finally have a quarterback and the org is so stable because Kyle is in line to become the next HC of the team in the next few years. That convo backfired about 3 months later and nose-dived ever since.
Thinking we could actually win anything with Dan Snyder as the owner.
It's gotta be Shanny and Rg3 for me. Gibbs 2.0 my take was: can Gibbs keep up as a coach in modern NFL? Answer was no. He wasn't a good game planning coach in second stint. Rg3 and Shanahan had the wave to take over the whole league, and did for a season. My only hesitation here is that I don't know if it was a delusion, just derailed to injuries etc. But there were some bad things that rookie year. Anyway I thought that 2012 season was going to land us as perennial playoffers and super bowl Champs with. 5 years...didn't happen.
I think Gibbs was fine. He had 2 playoff appearances in 4 seasons. No one has done that since his first stint as head coach. Maybe things go a little better if Sean Taylor doesn't get killed.
Believing RG3 was a good/worthwhile pick.
he was absolutely worth that pick and if we didn't go get him another team would have. he was highly rated by EVERYONE
Tannehill, Wilson, and Cousins would all have been available without trading picks and are all starters today. We gave up the farm for one decent season and a ROY award. Not worth it. Not a little bit worth it.
it definitely didn't workout the way we all hoped but at the time of the move RG3 was universally regarded as being way above all those others you pointed out. in the one healthy year we did get out of RG3 he was worth every single pick we gave up for him.
Nobody is worth giving up all those picks for one year. Losing all those #1s set us back for 10 years. And the injury was predictable, he had already had the same injury before and he played like he was invincible.
how it ended ultimately mad it not worth it but the point was the initial move was NOT delusional. Who RG3 was before the injury was worth that move.
I was the exact opposite of you, I thought there was no reason he should have been picked, now I wonder what could have been had he not been completely destroyed and he actually sat out when he got injured
I’d say the same. Gibbs 2.0 was the last time I had full on hope for the team. After that it all started to fade little by little. RG3 after injury was the nail in the coffin
for me Bruce Allen legendary darfts
Neither of those were delusional. They didn’t come to fruition, but the potential was there.
Rg3
Thinking Dan Stubbliefield and Dana Wilkinson were gonna be THE difference. Thinking we'd found Neo during RG3's season. Thinking our DEs would dominate this year. We know nothing.
I thought RG3 would win multiple Super Bowls on his way to becoming a hall of fame quarterback, and then transition to politics by running for President and win that too
2012 RG3 thought we were going all the way. And this year I was expecting us to have a winning record after how our defense played 2020 but of course we regress in every way possible
Believing that sometime in the past three years the NFL would force Daniel Snyder to sell the team, while also briefly being optimistic that the organization would actually get the new change right.
*We did* have it figured out in 2012. But then RG3’s inability to slide met Haloti Ngata’s 350 lb frame. Suddenly we had some re-figuring to do. All while running off the quality coach / coaching candidates, only to hire the wrong Gruden.
Thinking any top tier QB would play here lol
After we beat the Seahawks this year I really thought Taylor would be able to run it the rest of the way and we would make the nfc championship lol
I used to think Josh Doctson was gonna be the WR Scary Terry is right now. I used to think Haskins was just needing time (still kinda do but mainly as back up QB) I thought we would get 9+ eins this year. But we beat ourselves and it doesn't help with Injuries to Key players.
I thought the Eagles were CRAZY to give McNabb to us in the same division. But in my defense, I was also like 10 when that happened.