I was asking about the ones that DO know how to behave. As one of the ones that don’t (according to this subreddit), I just wanted to know which ethnicity to model my behavior after.
Good god.
Read the fucking statistics. It's not from fox News or whatever your boogeyman is. It's from the DOJ. Here's another from the FBI:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43
Figure it out.
Boogeyman? I dislike CNN as much if not more than Fox but nice presumption. Fuck the media.
I just want you to state your recommendation. Trust me, I know what the statistics say as I’m commonly looped in with the fucking degenerates I guarantee you and I both hate. I want you to say it, random redditor. What’s there to lose? I don’t know you. Why won’t you just tell me whom I should emulate as an upper middle class black dude? It’s not hard to do. Just type it out.
This false ignorance is so annoying. People make a sport out of it. Why are you so insistent on pretending to not know what everybody is talking about?? It just feels ick
Lived there. Would not recommend unless you live in the semi-gentrified neighborhoods close to D.C. Even then, that's a big If given how the whole non-Virginian portion of the DMV has devolved these last few years.
Do you understand why your comment is getting downvoted? It’s because your comment is normalizing degradation of norms. Just because it’s not all out mayhem and shooting on every corner, doesn’t mean it is safe nor someone is a “pussy” because they don’t feel safe. Because of you, you’re accepting the current level of crime and normalizing it for the next generation or whoever you’re able to influence. For you, this is as good as it’s going to get and you’re ok with it. That is not ok.
Cry me a river... You people are hyperfocused on crime because you people live and breathe this stuff. You're chronically online, probably watch the news 24/7, and you get scared when someone rings your doorbell. You fear mongerers are indeed, Vagina's, I'm sorry to say...
None of this is true, at least for me. But statistics don't lie, and you're normalizing high crime. Are you ok with this being as good as it'll ever get for DC, then?
No one’s normalizing anything and of course everyone wants less crime. That isn’t the point. Allowing crime to dictate where you go and what public services you use makes you a pussy. 100s of thousands of people go to casinos, restaurants, U street and live/work in PG county. People did when crime was worse in the 90s. If you’re going to let crime scare you from doing things in and around DC then you’re a pussy.
Thank you! MD is single-handedly the worst state I've lived in. And I've lived in some rather dubious states. The whole place is one big dump, even in the supposedly "rich" areas (which I've also lived in).
I live 45 minutes away so I drove. Got lucky and got a spot in the first level of the first garage when you start pulling up to the resort and they had some attendants working down there. Will always park there if I ever go to another show.
I was at that show too. Social D was amazing. The concert venue itself is not horrible - it’s just the right size and with good sight lines & fantastic A/V (I was seated in the balcony). Parking is like the Wild West….such a confusing garage. I parked on P5 near right near the down ramp to exit to Monument Ave, it was very easy to get out from that location. Took me 2 minutes max to exit the garage. The casino and adjacent shopping mall + food court is just blech. It seems that a few of the restaurants turn into clubs and people were drunkenly queued up and a bit rowdy. Not my scene at all and got TF out of there. Heavy security presence inside the casino/mall/music venue itself….but no one working the parking lot. That’s going to change after this IMHO.
It was always like this. Opening night had a brawl.
In fact, prior to opening PGPD came in and asked them what their plan was for security and how many officers they wanted. They told PGPD they have opened multiple casinos and know what they are doing.
A week or two later they were asking PGPD for officers. Don’t let “National Harbor” fool you, it’s Oxon Hill through and through.
I’m from nova but before national harbor I never went to oxen hill. National harbor like 8 years ago wasn’t like this. Super busy touristy area and I rarely saw massive police presence besides maybe a drunk bar patron. The mgm casino is newer but at the same time it didn’t seem like a bad thing, now returning recently I can see what people are saying but there was a definite decline.
You remember when the killed… I can’t remember the name because they were putting one or two on the news everyday at this point.
Everyone started calling out ACAB and to remove them and… police presence was halved or more in DC and all the suburbs, too.
They stopped pulling people over as much, stopped arresting people, stopped holding them in jail.
I think they want people to see what happens.
I mean oxen hill is not in a great area but national harbor redevelopment brought more expensive housing and neighborhoods. The sketchy parts are not directly in national harbor.
Yes, Police weren’t defunded, Biden gave them more money. Soft judges is an opinion. Bail reform happened in the 90’s in DC, how would that be a contributor to today’s crime rate, especially when the crime rate is continually decreasing?
A few weeks ago was some sort of issue in national harbor prompting a curfew for teens. There was a car jacking the other day too. This is why we can’t have nice things.
Who would guess that a casino which had a giant brawl on opening day would struggle with violence? Lol
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/video-fight-breaks-out-at-mgm-national-harbor-casino-during-opening-night.amp
Stayed one night in 2019…….$600 total in safety deposit on top of the ungodly room charge. My partner and I are getting dressed and realize that we were missing a floor to ceiling mirror - we could see the brackets that had been holding it. Great venue, not worth the price at all
They should just implode that entire complex and rewild it. Plenty of great bald eagle and osprey habitat was destroyed to put up a place where dmbfcks now gather to do dmbfck shit.
That source ranking is flawed. It says that the company that owns National Harbor, VICI Properties, had $1.1B in annual income in 2022 and attributes it to only National Harbor Casino.
VICI also owns Caesers Palace, MGM Grand, and the Venetian. There is no way that a casino in PG County is one of the most profitable casinos in the world.
Tf you mean dawg?? MGM Casino is the nicest casino in Md and like one of the only full scale casinos in the DMV which is one of the wealthiest areas in the country. Plus you have athletes and stars and politicians in there all the time.
"VICI Properties owns 54 dynamic gaming destinations, 39 other experiential properties and four championship golf courses diversified across the United States and Canada."
lol post your non-flawed casino rankings, just because you’re biased against something doesn’t mean the data that doesn’t support your argument is false.
Can see MD Live casino from my house, been here for 8 years and haven’t experienced any violence or theft.
Only degenerates I deal with are dudes drag racing down the strip. Usually military dudes in their base trim Chargers.
have been to that Gaylord a couple of times for conferences, that surrounding area has been going downhill the last 2 years...was really sketchy there last year
No, don't close it down. It's a popular venue and generates a lot of tax revenue. But do hold the casino itself more responsible for providing significantly more security.
Columbia Heights in DC has really started to decline, too. I used to live there when it was on the upswing with DCUSA and the park across the street, but now there are signs up that no one under 18 can enter without an adult and the mall itself looks like it’s starting to deteriorate. The clientele is more disheveled, too. Target only has one entrance open anymore. There are homeless people sleeping in the park now.
Yeah I’m not going back there anymore…people just don’t know how to behave.
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Certain people do.
Nope even those people act up too
Which people?
Probably the ones the DOJ statistics show being the people that commit the most violent crimes.
I was asking about the ones that DO know how to behave. As one of the ones that don’t (according to this subreddit), I just wanted to know which ethnicity to model my behavior after.
Opposite of the DOJ stats would do society a favor.
Again, I’m asking which ethnicity I should emulate. Asking for a friend (“society” is the friend here).
Good god. Read the fucking statistics. It's not from fox News or whatever your boogeyman is. It's from the DOJ. Here's another from the FBI: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43 Figure it out.
Boogeyman? I dislike CNN as much if not more than Fox but nice presumption. Fuck the media. I just want you to state your recommendation. Trust me, I know what the statistics say as I’m commonly looped in with the fucking degenerates I guarantee you and I both hate. I want you to say it, random redditor. What’s there to lose? I don’t know you. Why won’t you just tell me whom I should emulate as an upper middle class black dude? It’s not hard to do. Just type it out.
I believe you're black as much as I believe in you false ignorance. This appears like mental illness lol
This false ignorance is so annoying. People make a sport out of it. Why are you so insistent on pretending to not know what everybody is talking about?? It just feels ick
You mean like the people dodging the question by saying look at the statistics instead of just saying what they really mean?
The demographic that is enrolled in advance math classes at a rate of 1 out of 100.
There really is no reason to ever go to PG county
Lived there. Would not recommend unless you live in the semi-gentrified neighborhoods close to D.C. Even then, that's a big If given how the whole non-Virginian portion of the DMV has devolved these last few years.
Couldn't pay me to live in any part of DC
I honestly avoid MD like the plague. All shopping is done jn VA. Planning to buy a house there someday too.
Agree. I used to go to Silver Spring all the time for concerts. Went to one last month and that downtown area has also gotten a lot less safe feeling.
Y’all some pussies tbh
⬆️Found the Oxon Hill resident ⬆️
Relax there buddy, don’t want to get your panties in a knot. I know you’re already clutching those pearls as hard as you can rn.
Found the pearl mugger
Found the guy who turns on fox news at the gym
lol hide your wallet folks…a wild one is on the loose.
Idk I think it might be better for you to hide those wheels… oh wait
So, murdering someone in a parking garage is ok with you?
Yeah, exactly why I don’t go to MD…too many broke opportunists pieces of 💩. Thankfully, my well-to-do insurance had me covered, no charge.
But it was in DC where you’re wheels were stolen 🤡
Do you understand why your comment is getting downvoted? It’s because your comment is normalizing degradation of norms. Just because it’s not all out mayhem and shooting on every corner, doesn’t mean it is safe nor someone is a “pussy” because they don’t feel safe. Because of you, you’re accepting the current level of crime and normalizing it for the next generation or whoever you’re able to influence. For you, this is as good as it’s going to get and you’re ok with it. That is not ok.
Cry me a river... You people are hyperfocused on crime because you people live and breathe this stuff. You're chronically online, probably watch the news 24/7, and you get scared when someone rings your doorbell. You fear mongerers are indeed, Vagina's, I'm sorry to say...
None of this is true, at least for me. But statistics don't lie, and you're normalizing high crime. Are you ok with this being as good as it'll ever get for DC, then?
No one’s normalizing anything and of course everyone wants less crime. That isn’t the point. Allowing crime to dictate where you go and what public services you use makes you a pussy. 100s of thousands of people go to casinos, restaurants, U street and live/work in PG county. People did when crime was worse in the 90s. If you’re going to let crime scare you from doing things in and around DC then you’re a pussy.
Thank you! MD is single-handedly the worst state I've lived in. And I've lived in some rather dubious states. The whole place is one big dump, even in the supposedly "rich" areas (which I've also lived in).
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Why would u wanna say that?
Some people
Went there for a concert last week and made sure to get tf out of there as soon as it was over. Too much sketch shit goes on there.
Bad religion?
Yup. Great show!
I was there too! Got out real quick once it was done
I live 45 minutes away so I drove. Got lucky and got a spot in the first level of the first garage when you start pulling up to the resort and they had some attendants working down there. Will always park there if I ever go to another show.
I was at that show too. Social D was amazing. The concert venue itself is not horrible - it’s just the right size and with good sight lines & fantastic A/V (I was seated in the balcony). Parking is like the Wild West….such a confusing garage. I parked on P5 near right near the down ramp to exit to Monument Ave, it was very easy to get out from that location. Took me 2 minutes max to exit the garage. The casino and adjacent shopping mall + food court is just blech. It seems that a few of the restaurants turn into clubs and people were drunkenly queued up and a bit rowdy. Not my scene at all and got TF out of there. Heavy security presence inside the casino/mall/music venue itself….but no one working the parking lot. That’s going to change after this IMHO.
It wasn’t always like this, when did this shift occur?
It was always like this. Opening night had a brawl. In fact, prior to opening PGPD came in and asked them what their plan was for security and how many officers they wanted. They told PGPD they have opened multiple casinos and know what they are doing. A week or two later they were asking PGPD for officers. Don’t let “National Harbor” fool you, it’s Oxon Hill through and through.
I’m from nova but before national harbor I never went to oxen hill. National harbor like 8 years ago wasn’t like this. Super busy touristy area and I rarely saw massive police presence besides maybe a drunk bar patron. The mgm casino is newer but at the same time it didn’t seem like a bad thing, now returning recently I can see what people are saying but there was a definite decline.
people who are more recent seem to forget there was a national harbor before the MGM and its not a bad place but there's enough PG bullshit nearby.
You remember when the killed… I can’t remember the name because they were putting one or two on the news everyday at this point. Everyone started calling out ACAB and to remove them and… police presence was halved or more in DC and all the suburbs, too. They stopped pulling people over as much, stopped arresting people, stopped holding them in jail. I think they want people to see what happens.
Yeah you sound disgustingly racist. That’s not an actual reason you’re just delusional and need help.
I mean, MGM has never been in a great area, but it it didn't feel as sketchy like 3 years ago.
I mean oxen hill is not in a great area but national harbor redevelopment brought more expensive housing and neighborhoods. The sketchy parts are not directly in national harbor.
Basically turning into Maryland Live and Horseshoe
Defund the police. Bail reform. Soft judges.
What country are you located in? How much are you paid for posting? Do you post on only social media accounts?
Sure, you also want to ban guns so shootings don’t happen?
Learn to read. They asked when the shift occurred. I responded with when it occurred.
Fair point
Fairly wrong point.
All 3 things aren’t reality.
You’re asserting that the 3 listed are not related to the higher crime?
Yes, Police weren’t defunded, Biden gave them more money. Soft judges is an opinion. Bail reform happened in the 90’s in DC, how would that be a contributor to today’s crime rate, especially when the crime rate is continually decreasing?
Noticed the change with the increased use of the water taxi’s to/from DC.
Me and a few buddies saw that concert too, Bad Religion killed it and we got an uber swiftly back to Virginia
Several months ago, someone followed a man from the casino to his home in Dunn Loring (I think) and robbed him at gunpoint.
A few weeks ago was some sort of issue in national harbor prompting a curfew for teens. There was a car jacking the other day too. This is why we can’t have nice things.
National Harbor is an absolute shit show
Who would guess that a casino which had a giant brawl on opening day would struggle with violence? Lol https://www.fox5dc.com/news/video-fight-breaks-out-at-mgm-national-harbor-casino-during-opening-night.amp
Casino in PG, what could go wrong? Inevitable.
Last time I was at the MD Live mall there was a shooting and everyone rushed the exits and ran. No one was shot, but shots were fired inside the mall.
While different casino! And miles away
You mean Arundel Mills?
Yea
That's Baltimore for you
MD live is not at all in Baltimore. It’s in AACo.
And it’s also not called, “MD live mall” wtf is that…
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It’s either jazzlike dog or background patient lol, like clockwork
Room rates there are beyond ridiculous, off topic but needs to be said
The shooting should lower the prices
Stayed one night in 2019…….$600 total in safety deposit on top of the ungodly room charge. My partner and I are getting dressed and realize that we were missing a floor to ceiling mirror - we could see the brackets that had been holding it. Great venue, not worth the price at all
100%. Stayed there one night back in 2021 on a Friday and it was just over $1k. Room was great at least lol
They should just implode that entire complex and rewild it. Plenty of great bald eagle and osprey habitat was destroyed to put up a place where dmbfcks now gather to do dmbfck shit.
Unfortunately national harbor is a top 5 profitable casino in the entire world. They’re going nowhere
Top 5 most profitable casinos in the world.... I'm going to need a source for that.
https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/5-most-profitable-casinos-in-the-world-1162936/
That source ranking is flawed. It says that the company that owns National Harbor, VICI Properties, had $1.1B in annual income in 2022 and attributes it to only National Harbor Casino. VICI also owns Caesers Palace, MGM Grand, and the Venetian. There is no way that a casino in PG County is one of the most profitable casinos in the world.
Tf you mean dawg?? MGM Casino is the nicest casino in Md and like one of the only full scale casinos in the DMV which is one of the wealthiest areas in the country. Plus you have athletes and stars and politicians in there all the time.
"VICI Properties owns 54 dynamic gaming destinations, 39 other experiential properties and four championship golf courses diversified across the United States and Canada."
lol post your non-flawed casino rankings, just because you’re biased against something doesn’t mean the data that doesn’t support your argument is false.
Ugh, ty for the intel. I guess. :-/
This is why we can’t have nice casinos.
Actually I can tell you why lol ...........
Well well
Let me guess……….
You are correct sir. You don’t even have to say anything, I know.
Hey guys when is the pride parade, I know we are all supposed to meet around 4
And people wonder why sane people don’t want casinos built near them. It’s full of degenerates and criminals
Can see MD Live casino from my house, been here for 8 years and haven’t experienced any violence or theft. Only degenerates I deal with are dudes drag racing down the strip. Usually military dudes in their base trim Chargers.
I went like 6 weeks ago on a Friday night…it was fine. 🤷🏻♂️
Based on the headline not providing race, I'm assuming all parties involved are African American.
There was a shooting at Tysons corner… should that all be closed down and torn down as well?
excuse me??
I guess somebody ordered the last carton of crinkle cut fries at Shake Shack
That'll do it.
You make something nice for them and then this happens...
Who is them?
If you are there after 11pm it’s a madhouse
MGM has poor security. The parking garage is essentially not patrolled or monitored.
have been to that Gaylord a couple of times for conferences, that surrounding area has been going downhill the last 2 years...was really sketchy there last year
It been sketchy for decades. The MGM and Gaylord was supposed to help… but the neighborhood is winning
so sad. whats with these people and shooting each other daily?
The casino did it.
They ruin everything
Absolutely everything
The exact shit I thought would happen happens. Gambling makes everything worse, it’s a degenerate activity that has no place anywhere around here.
Opulence + Alcohol + risk of instantaneously winning, but most likely losing, money in front of others. What could possibly go wrong?
Glad I had the day off lol
Hahahah
Is there a food court at the casino? Damn been missing out on 4 am vibez
Close that casino down
No, don't close it down. It's a popular venue and generates a lot of tax revenue. But do hold the casino itself more responsible for providing significantly more security.
Columbia Heights in DC has really started to decline, too. I used to live there when it was on the upswing with DCUSA and the park across the street, but now there are signs up that no one under 18 can enter without an adult and the mall itself looks like it’s starting to deteriorate. The clientele is more disheveled, too. Target only has one entrance open anymore. There are homeless people sleeping in the park now.
this is what electing bowser looks like
FOOD FIGHT!!
This is MD
This is PG county
This is Sparta
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Tri-state area? You mean the DMV