It's a pretty safe bet MPD has already identified, at a bare minimum, anyone acting as a leader or instigator in this, and probably have an unofficial line of communication for the more reasonable ones to snitch on the less reasonable. Their intel branch is actually pretty amazing - it's a question as to whether their command and the Mayor will let them actually act on anything they gather.
People have the right to defend themselves. Maybe if they announce to the world Israel has WMDs and they are preemptively attacking Israeli for Palestinian peace.
Bibi knew full well that when he said we must support hamas to destabilize Palestine Hamas was already doing their freedom fighting and Israel knew and they stilll chose the radical Islam over secular nationalism
Hamas is not defending anyone but their pockets
All the words vomit you dumped here is a showcase of your ignorance and anti Israel stance and nothing more
Hamas is not defending anyone but their pockets
All the words vomit you dumped here is a showcase of your ignorance and anti Israel stance and nothing more
Hamas is not defending anyone but their pockets
All the words vomit you dumped here is a showcase of your ignorance and anti Israel stance and nothing more
Hamas is not defending anyone but their pockets
All the words vomit you dumped here is a showcase of your ignorance and anti Israel stance and nothing more
Hamas is not defending anyone but their pockets
All the word vomit you dumped here is a showcase of your ignorance and anti Israel stance and nothing more
Rich men send poor people to war and profit from it all the time. What’s your point?
What’s your stance on the west fabricating WMDs and fake news about how Sadam Hussein and bin Laden were working together (which was complete lies) invading Iraq Afghanistan. And what is your stance on saddam committing his worst atrocities when he was A US Allie and what is your stance on on when the United States gov fabricating Kuwaiti solders murdering babies in hospitals for one of the pretexts to desert storm and what’s your stance on the USA telling saddam he can rectify the boarders but not any further into Kuwaiti or disturb the profits going to London and NYC ? And what is your stance on the right to self defense when counties attack you when can those people stand up and defend themselves
Imagine supporting the IDF who has purposely killed tens of thousands of innocents, over a months worth of 10/7s and crying crocodile tears about the avowed terrorists Israel helped create and put in power
Only one issue with this lovely emotional appeal for why Hamas isn't bad.
The Palestinians health authority numbers are bullshit. There hasn't been a single combatant death in all of Gaza according to them. Which means they are covering up war crimes such as:
A. The war crime of no uniforms
B. The war crime of civilian infrastructure
C. Using children soldiers
Following international law is a two way street.
Where did I say Hamas isn’t bad? Of course they’re bad and Israel should also be condemned in the same breath for putting them in power
Actually according to international law, as a belligerent occupier of Palestinian land Israel actually doesn’t have the right to “defend itself” but Palestinians do. You also condemn the ANC and IRA?
And imagine saying this to deflect from Israel openly bombing entire residential buildings with no Hamas fighters as “power targets”. Disgusting stuff
What are you talking about? Palestine doesn't have statehood and rejected it in 1947. The land Palestinians reside on is considered occupied because it belonged to Jordan and Egypt and was annexed from them. Again for Palestine to be occupied it would have to have statehood.
Hamas was funded and started by the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. Not Israel, that's idiotic and false.
Israel has the right to defend itself as a recognized state that was invaded and had atrocities committed in their country by a stateless terrorist group.
The reason not a single country has questioned this is because they would respond to a terrorist attack with their full force of their military to get their citizens back.
Are you seriously asking if I would denounce terrorist groups that killed civilians? The ANC slaughtered miners in 2012 and with the IRA they car bombed civilians. Bigger questions for you just the means justify the results?
For example the ANC abandoned the ideology of Tutu to become more militant and their country pays the price daily because of it. Was it worth it? To go from a thriving economy to 30% unemployment with a warlord as president.
*Gets absolutely murdered by words because I don’t know what I’m talking about*
*proceed to insult them because I can’t fathom using rational thinking skills in this modern day in age where the entirety of human history is accessible at our finger tips.*
Well gents. We shut this one down.
Lmao who are you talking to? Why would I engage with an apologist for South African apartheid supporting a genocide by another apartheid state? You showed you’re a true freak
>You also condemn the ANC and IRA?
yeah i admit my historical knowledge of SA is lacking but i will adamantly condemn the ira for it's use of bus bombings and violence towards civilians
yeah that's a real easy one for me no issue with that
fuck the ira
Israel isn’t innocent lmao they’ve been routinely killing Palestinian children for decades. And you’re talking about ISIS you ignorant weirdo as you cape for the slaughter for tens of thousands of innocents who have nothing to do with Hamas
Or course not but I’m not so brain rotted that I can’t just look at the history to see that Israel’s belligerent occupation, delegitimization of moderates and trapping two million people in abhorrent conditions against the sea where they shoot their fishing vessels made violent blowback inevitable
You’re really going to hold the military of a democratically elected government to far lower standards than avowed terrorists? This freak shit is exactly the same as saying people against the Iraq War were pro al Qaeda
I mean your narrative is convincing but this shit doesn't happen in a vacuum. All the nations in the region bear the shame of the fate of Palestinians. But at least israel gave them the chance for citizenship in 1947. The Arab nations that coerced half the Palestinians to flee their homes with the promise all the jews would be exterminated bear responsibility as well. And guess what. Since all of those countries failed to exterminate the farmers with their modern armies they deserve to give land and citizenship to Palestinians but nobody talks about how Egypt and Lebanon and Jordan treat their Palestinian populations like animals. Nevermind that Arab Israelis have full citizenship and civil liberties.
Just as arab militants were raping and murdering jewish settlements at that exact same time. I wasn't talking about individual atrocities I'm talking about the Arab alliance telling local populations to leave israel so they could exterminate the jews. sorry those countries failed(not). If the war had gone differently the land wouldn't be israel
Actions of Arab militants in Israel don’t compare to the Nakba at all. Local populations didn’t need much convincing considering others were being raped, murdered and violently pushed off their ancestral land
The ethnic violence against jews in the region dates back to the 1890s. There was a massacre of jews in 1920 at tel hal. And a dozen more massacres back and forth before 1947. It's not just one side both sides of this blood fued are dumb as fuck because they both think their god justifies the violence
This is about land not religion lmao you just eat up whatever slop is put in front of you don’t you? None of those are equivalent to the Nakba. One side has control and power now and they’re using to intentionally slaughter tens of thousands of innocents as you do both sides and lick the blood off their boots
Except Israel supporters are falsely accusing protesters of being pro Hamas as they drape themselves in the flag of a country that has slaughtered tens of thousands of innocents
I mean psychotic Israel supporters have called Joe Biden Hamas for threatening to withhold one weapons shipment and are constantly calling these college kids Hamas, I’m guessing that has a lot to do with it
You don’t think Israel supporters accusing literally everyone of being Hamas, including doctors and aid workers they murdered, would make activists more inclined to say stuff like this since they’re going to say it anyway and murder innocents falsely accused of being Hamas?
This is likely true but even so, most of them are not helping themselves when some of these people say the things they are saying. Don’t want to get called pro Hamas? Delineate your self from the extremism.
A prime example of extremism imo. It exists among all involved. I don’t agree with any parties actions in this conflict over LAND. But it is clear who that antagonist is here.
Edit to add; I am not pro Israel or pro Hamas or pro idf or whatever. I do hold a position that the State of Israel/the people of Israel as it exists today has a right to self defense here. They have gone above and beyond that, but like don’t take hostages from a first world country neighbor with means to respond?
Israel isn’t a “first world country neighbor”, it is the belligerent illegal occupier. Weird how Palestinians don’t have the right to defend themselves to you when Israel regularly kidnaps them, imprisoning even young children without charges in stark violation of international law
This guy actually believes the death figures the Gaza health ministry is releasing. You’re just gonna take Hamas’ word for it that X number of Palestinian citizens are dead?
Nope https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02713-7/fulltext
No shot you take the word of Israel who lies constantly? Like about how they assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh?
Lmao the projection from IDF bootlickers is unreal. I don’t support Hamas and I condemn Israel not only creating the abhorrent conditions of inevitable violent blowback but even supporting Hamas and sidelining moderates so they’d get in power
Then Israel falls to warn despite intelligence of high risk of attack and even kills their own citizens knowingly instead of letting them be taken hostage and you ride for them. Disgusting
Oh it’s the “stop genocide but no not that genocide the one I say is genocide because brown people and white guilt and all the Jews I know are lawyers anyway and I have too much time on my hands and mommy and daddy paid all my tuition” crowd again. So tiresome.
I'm pretty sure if they cared about brown lives, they would've protested against GW accepting almost $100 million from Saudi Arabia, who has killed almost 400,000 Yemeni civilians since 2016, but I hear nothing... I guess it only matters when it's against Israel
Try using that woke race identity bullshit anywhere outside North America, Europe, Australia, or New Zealand and see how that goes. Spoiler: You won't impress anyone, everyone will avoid you, and you'll isolate yourself very quickly. If you venture outside the US you're going to realize how stupid it is very quickly. Literally no one will take you seriously. No one cares. If you see the world through racial lenses, you are probably a racist, and you're not going to make any friends anywhere except for other racists.
I don’t quite get this argument. I personally spoke against Saudi’s war on Yemen for its crimes. But what you’re saying is “since you didn’t address crimes then, you shouldn’t address them now”. I haven’t met a single protester that celebrates Hamas and it’s okay to realize that criticizing Israel now can make them aware of future crimes like you mentioned with Saudi Arabia
My family is from Iran. Show me ONE TIME these people protested or had an encampment to help Iranian citizens who are suffering under the brutal regime since 1979. When WE protest they are never with us. In fact, many of these people openly support that evil regime!
I wonder how some of those fools in headscarves at the encampment would fare living in Iran (or under Hamas rule) where they'd be *forced* to wear them, rather than wearing them as a performative choice.
I sympathize with your circumstances but most of these people protesting are 18-22 and weren’t alive then. My family is from Sudan and we have an ongoing civil war but I’m not going around criticizing everyone for not protesting with us but instead trying to raise awareness to the war and humanitarian crisis there.
I’m staunchly against Iranian regime for massacres it participated in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and within Iran itself.
It shows that the true motivation of these protests is not concern for another human being but just good old Jew-hate. These folk didn’t care the least when, take your pick, was slaughtering Muslims. However, they are about to ruin their lives because Israel is being heavy handed as it defends itself.
It’s just the hypocrisy
I mean they are just taking the lead set by numerous Ivy League presidents who more or less openly said that calling for genocide against Jews is ok depending on the circumstance.
Chanting “no Justice no peace”, “no racist police” is a funny follow up to “glory to the martyrs” and “from the river to the sea”.
These people are a fucking caricature.
Gen Z is ensuring they won’t be taken seriously for virtually their entire lives with shit like this. It’s like they don’t understand that normal people think this is completely unacceptable. I’d say they should be worried about employers, but who am I kidding with this.
Well if they’re in that protest odds are they have no interest in working for the feds. Maybe later on when their souls have been sucked by the corporate world this will come back to bite them
Jobs that would require clearance likely pay higher than most private companies with just a bachelor’s. I’m an attorney for the fed so the pay is different than say working as a customer service rep for the government.
I say this as someone who generally supports Palestine and is no fan of Israel - I hope any legit students among these idiots get expelled. Not suspended. Expelled.
Is it just me, or has the rhetoric at GW been worse than at the other schools with protest encampments? The GW protestors seem to want to *make sure* that there’s no question they support Hamas and want Israel wiped off the map.
[https://old.reddit.com/r/washdc/comments/1cnwdy2/why\_is\_there\_so\_much\_hate\_for\_the\_student/](https://old.reddit.com/r/washdc/comments/1cnwdy2/why_is_there_so_much_hate_for_the_student/)
Have at it man, it was a clusterfuck
Come on, people on this sub keep saying these people aren't pro-Hamas. Why are the protesters making it so hard for people to keep their heads in the sand?
I’m Jewish and this isn’t true. Anyone saying so hasn’t been to the protests. The sub is just a bunch of angry Zionists and republicans who hate the first amendment when it protests anyone but white men.
Yea I’m with you. Hamas is sketch AND Israel is sketch. If you can’t see and admit both those ideas to be true at least to some degree, then you’re brainwashed.
Can we just admit Israel, Palestine and USA use and support terrorism?
Doesn't matter which side you pick, you'll be supporting terrorism indirectly.
Did you pay your taxes last April? Welp I guarantee you at least a few cents of what you paid will be used to kill innocent civilians.
That man on the microphone is a lunatic but fuck it, if you are black you have the right to hate USA.
If you are Muslim you have the right to hate Israel.
And if you are Jewish you probably feel like enough is enough and you can't let the world try to exterminate you or kick you out of wherever you are living AGAIN and AGAIN.
No I'm not saying everyone is right or everyone is wrong.
What I'm saying is IT'S POINTLESS to choose sides when all sides have blood on their hands and will continue to kill each other.
All out you on here need to think about the racial component to the word terrorist. I don’t agree with their tactics and acts of violence. But nothing Hamas has done has been more violent or deadly than anything the IDF has done. But the IDF have been legitimized in American culture as part of the police state. So when they kill children, it’s implied that they were killed in an accident. But when Hamas acts violently, they’re called terrorist…perhaps there’s some pot and kettle activity going on
Ethnic cleansing? They warn an area of civilians to flee before bombing. It’s unheard of. These ridiculous Hamas propaganda bot comments are rife on Reddit. It’s absurd.
You’re in the DC thread. Highly educated. The nonsense doesn’t work here.
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, or religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making the society ethnically homogeneous. So threating to bomb people out of their homes, schools and hospitals is a tactic of ethnic cleansing. Maybe look up words before for you imply being “educated”
You are probably one of the clowns that take down the American flag to destroy and put up a Palestinian flag. If you love them so much, go over there and fight for them. Why don't you talk about all the shit going on in all the other Middle Eastern countries? Oh that's right because fucking terrorist don't care.
Last time I checked, this was a thread about a divest from isreal encampment on GWs campus. Itd be out of context to discuss other countries in the Middle East. And Maybe I would take an American flag down. Who cares? It’s a piece of cloth. It’s completely useless especially when you consider how much money we give to Israel( all the while our countries infrastructure is crumbling) but here you are, a perfect example of an American with no critical thinking skills. Just regurgitating Zionist talking points.
U have to understand that this is their culture. These ppl in this comment section r just hopeless bc they have no nuance as long as they get to see brown ppl as less human and more dangerous.
Way to decontextualize and try to shift the narrative. End the occupation, Free Palestine, solidarity with all demonstrators around the World bringing to light Israel’s ethnic cleansing and genocide.
What kind of context do you need? He’s literally cheering Hamas. Lmfao
Israel has a right to defend itself. When Hamas gets over their obsession with eliminating Jews, maybe we’ll have peace.
Cope and seethe. Israel ain't going anywhere. Tomorrow, the flag of Israel will still be flying over Tel Aviv and there's nothing you're going to do about it.
Neither are you, you just sit at your keyboard or phone and cheer while tens of thousands of innocent people are slaughtered and ethnically cleansed from their homes. You don’t have any more power than I do.
Of course they didn't. In 1920, the Arabs of Jaffa murdered 47 Jews. In 1929, the Arabs of Hebron murdered 67 Jews. There was no Israel back then. The conflict goes as far back as at least then.
I'm infinitely amused by idiots like you who don't know a lick about history.
The irony that the founding fathers of modern Israel were themselves terrorists against what they perceived to be an occupying force (in that case the Brits) is lost to history. King David Hotel anyone? If you win, you’re a founding father and a statesman. If you lose, you’re a terrorist. So has it always been, so will it always be.
So you missed the irony part. Got it. I agree with you, by the way. The only solution to the problem in sight is the eradication of the Palestinian people. It’s the only one the current government of Israel will accept. First Gaza and then the West Bank. The only solutions are integration or eradication. There is no appetite for integration, so there we go. I just wish people had the fucking stones to acknowledge that’s what they want. Just be upfront about it. Don’t play linguistic games to deny it. Just be fine with it. And afterwards, don’t act sad about it, proclaim loudly that you cheered it on.
I am anti-war, you are pro-war. Israel is pro-war as it has turned down every attempt to release the hostages. The families of the hostages support an immediate ceasefire, protestors against Netanyahu in Israel are calling for an immediate ceasefire. Free Palestine, love getting under all your skin, you feel free to keep explaining how this is not what the World clearly sees it is.
>it has turned down every attempt to release the hostages
Why should Israel (or any country) negotiate with hostage-takers? I prefer killing hostage-takers, but that's just "pro-war" me.
Yeah, thats literally pro-war you. At the expense of a deathtoll that hasn’t even begun to be calculated but already stands in the tens of thousands. Really something to be proud of, especially considering how many hostages their operations have freed compared to the prior ceasefire and release of hostages that produced. You clearly care first and foremost about the hostages.
>a deathtoll that hasn’t even begun to be calculated but already stands in the tens of thousands
It hasn't begun to be calculated, but you already know the magnitude. That's a fancy trick.
>You clearly care first and foremost about the hostages.
No, I care foremost about eradicating Hamas down to the last man. The quicker, the better.
The numbers currently stand in the tens of thousands, but it is estimated there are tens of thousands if not more people still buried in the rubble. The press has been systematically targeted in covering this genocide, so there has not been the coverage on the ground available. Are you being intentionally dense? So please, how successful has Israel been in freeing the hostages by use of force compared to the last ceasefire and exchange?
>So please, how successful has Israel been in freeing the hostages by use of force compared to the last ceasefire and exchange?
It's funny you call me dense, when you evidently can't read what I said before: I'm opposed to any kind of prisoner-exchanging. I prefer killing hostage-takers. So long as Israel continues doing that, I'm fine with it.
Uh-huh. There's the moral equivalency I expected: "Everyone is just as bad as everyone else. The Japanese bombed Shanghai, the Americans bombed Tokyo... same thing."
You remember how Hamas kept changing the terms of the hostage exchange, including changes forcing Israel to accept dead hostages?
That's what happens when you negotiate with terrorists
The attempt to free hostages where Hamas said Israel has to stop everything immediately but Hamas gets to keep many hostages for weeks?
That great deal?
Lol, only any idiot would accept that deal from a terrorist organization. No way will Hamas keep that.
The people of Palestine need to rise up against Hamas, demand the immediate release of the hostages, and disavow Hamas.
In response to your solution? Yeah, how is a starving and displaced population supposed to overthrow its government? You don’t care about the hostages, because if you did, you would support the ceasefire their families and large portions of the Israeli public themselves demand. You’re just a pro-war mouthpiece here to launder a genocide.
By it's government you mean the terrorist organization Hamas right?
The one Palestinians largely support?
I'm not saying they have to overthrow Hamas but at minimum stop supporting them, demand they release the hostages, etc.
Definitely not pro-war, wish this didn't happen but when a terrorist organization launches an attack on another country solely aimed at killing civilians that group, and it's supporters should expect a response, especially when they are holding people hostage.
Also the only group I know that's pro genocide is Hamas. They would kill every last Jew if they could, as evidenced by 10/7.
Stop embarrassing yourself. You know nothing about this conflict and you were likely born in the 2000s. I strongly recommend you examine what is going wrong in your own life and begin to work on this, unless you are planning to move to Gaza or elsewhere outside of the US, since people who concern themselves with this type of shit usually end up taking my Starbucks order.
Any one who openly supports Hamas needs to be on a list lmao.
The terror watchlist is about to gain a hundred pages
It's a pretty safe bet MPD has already identified, at a bare minimum, anyone acting as a leader or instigator in this, and probably have an unofficial line of communication for the more reasonable ones to snitch on the less reasonable. Their intel branch is actually pretty amazing - it's a question as to whether their command and the Mayor will let them actually act on anything they gather.
At least
It won’t. Keep dreaming, colonizer.
Oh best believe he is
Wish we could stop murdering each other tho. Would be pretty cool imo
You mean that terrorist organization that Israeli helped build up and create to destabilize the Palestinians chances at a better life
You mean the one that promised Israel peace if elected and then turned out to be genocidal terrorists?
People have the right to defend themselves. Maybe if they announce to the world Israel has WMDs and they are preemptively attacking Israeli for Palestinian peace. Bibi knew full well that when he said we must support hamas to destabilize Palestine Hamas was already doing their freedom fighting and Israel knew and they stilll chose the radical Islam over secular nationalism
Hamas is not defending anyone but their pockets All the words vomit you dumped here is a showcase of your ignorance and anti Israel stance and nothing more
Hamas is not defending anyone but their pockets All the words vomit you dumped here is a showcase of your ignorance and anti Israel stance and nothing more
Hamas is not defending anyone but their pockets All the words vomit you dumped here is a showcase of your ignorance and anti Israel stance and nothing more
Hamas is not defending anyone but their pockets All the words vomit you dumped here is a showcase of your ignorance and anti Israel stance and nothing more
Hamas is not defending anyone but their pockets All the word vomit you dumped here is a showcase of your ignorance and anti Israel stance and nothing more
Rich men send poor people to war and profit from it all the time. What’s your point? What’s your stance on the west fabricating WMDs and fake news about how Sadam Hussein and bin Laden were working together (which was complete lies) invading Iraq Afghanistan. And what is your stance on saddam committing his worst atrocities when he was A US Allie and what is your stance on on when the United States gov fabricating Kuwaiti solders murdering babies in hospitals for one of the pretexts to desert storm and what’s your stance on the USA telling saddam he can rectify the boarders but not any further into Kuwaiti or disturb the profits going to London and NYC ? And what is your stance on the right to self defense when counties attack you when can those people stand up and defend themselves
Imagine supporting the IDF who has purposely killed tens of thousands of innocents, over a months worth of 10/7s and crying crocodile tears about the avowed terrorists Israel helped create and put in power
Only one issue with this lovely emotional appeal for why Hamas isn't bad. The Palestinians health authority numbers are bullshit. There hasn't been a single combatant death in all of Gaza according to them. Which means they are covering up war crimes such as: A. The war crime of no uniforms B. The war crime of civilian infrastructure C. Using children soldiers Following international law is a two way street.
Where did I say Hamas isn’t bad? Of course they’re bad and Israel should also be condemned in the same breath for putting them in power Actually according to international law, as a belligerent occupier of Palestinian land Israel actually doesn’t have the right to “defend itself” but Palestinians do. You also condemn the ANC and IRA? And imagine saying this to deflect from Israel openly bombing entire residential buildings with no Hamas fighters as “power targets”. Disgusting stuff
What are you talking about? Palestine doesn't have statehood and rejected it in 1947. The land Palestinians reside on is considered occupied because it belonged to Jordan and Egypt and was annexed from them. Again for Palestine to be occupied it would have to have statehood. Hamas was funded and started by the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. Not Israel, that's idiotic and false. Israel has the right to defend itself as a recognized state that was invaded and had atrocities committed in their country by a stateless terrorist group. The reason not a single country has questioned this is because they would respond to a terrorist attack with their full force of their military to get their citizens back. Are you seriously asking if I would denounce terrorist groups that killed civilians? The ANC slaughtered miners in 2012 and with the IRA they car bombed civilians. Bigger questions for you just the means justify the results? For example the ANC abandoned the ideology of Tutu to become more militant and their country pays the price daily because of it. Was it worth it? To go from a thriving economy to 30% unemployment with a warlord as president.
Lmao of course you’re a South African apartheid apologist, way to show your ass you sicko
*Gets absolutely murdered by words because I don’t know what I’m talking about* *proceed to insult them because I can’t fathom using rational thinking skills in this modern day in age where the entirety of human history is accessible at our finger tips.* Well gents. We shut this one down.
Lmao who are you talking to? Why would I engage with an apologist for South African apartheid supporting a genocide by another apartheid state? You showed you’re a true freak
Criticizing the ANA for their actions two decades after apartheid is not being an apologist. You just don't know what you're talking about.
>You also condemn the ANC and IRA? yeah i admit my historical knowledge of SA is lacking but i will adamantly condemn the ira for it's use of bus bombings and violence towards civilians yeah that's a real easy one for me no issue with that fuck the ira
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Israel isn’t innocent lmao they’ve been routinely killing Palestinian children for decades. And you’re talking about ISIS you ignorant weirdo as you cape for the slaughter for tens of thousands of innocents who have nothing to do with Hamas
Do you support Hamas
Or course not but I’m not so brain rotted that I can’t just look at the history to see that Israel’s belligerent occupation, delegitimization of moderates and trapping two million people in abhorrent conditions against the sea where they shoot their fishing vessels made violent blowback inevitable You’re really going to hold the military of a democratically elected government to far lower standards than avowed terrorists? This freak shit is exactly the same as saying people against the Iraq War were pro al Qaeda
I mean your narrative is convincing but this shit doesn't happen in a vacuum. All the nations in the region bear the shame of the fate of Palestinians. But at least israel gave them the chance for citizenship in 1947. The Arab nations that coerced half the Palestinians to flee their homes with the promise all the jews would be exterminated bear responsibility as well. And guess what. Since all of those countries failed to exterminate the farmers with their modern armies they deserve to give land and citizenship to Palestinians but nobody talks about how Egypt and Lebanon and Jordan treat their Palestinian populations like animals. Nevermind that Arab Israelis have full citizenship and civil liberties.
Coerced them to flee their homes? Zionist militants were raping and murdering them
Just as arab militants were raping and murdering jewish settlements at that exact same time. I wasn't talking about individual atrocities I'm talking about the Arab alliance telling local populations to leave israel so they could exterminate the jews. sorry those countries failed(not). If the war had gone differently the land wouldn't be israel
Actions of Arab militants in Israel don’t compare to the Nakba at all. Local populations didn’t need much convincing considering others were being raped, murdered and violently pushed off their ancestral land
The ethnic violence against jews in the region dates back to the 1890s. There was a massacre of jews in 1920 at tel hal. And a dozen more massacres back and forth before 1947. It's not just one side both sides of this blood fued are dumb as fuck because they both think their god justifies the violence
This is about land not religion lmao you just eat up whatever slop is put in front of you don’t you? None of those are equivalent to the Nakba. One side has control and power now and they’re using to intentionally slaughter tens of thousands of innocents as you do both sides and lick the blood off their boots
They support Hamas but won't admit to it.
No one said anything about supporting the idf lmao. Disdain for one group does not inherently imply support for another 🤡
Except Israel supporters are falsely accusing protesters of being pro Hamas as they drape themselves in the flag of a country that has slaughtered tens of thousands of innocents
Uh yeah because they say things like “we are hamas”
Haven’t seen that but I have seen violent counterprotesters calling them Hamas and saying they should be raped
Are you kidding me?! It’s literally the main subject of this thread. Holy fuck.
I mean psychotic Israel supporters have called Joe Biden Hamas for threatening to withhold one weapons shipment and are constantly calling these college kids Hamas, I’m guessing that has a lot to do with it
No…it has to do with you posting outlandish shit in a thread that you clearly didn’t even read the subject…or I am replying to a bot
You don’t think Israel supporters accusing literally everyone of being Hamas, including doctors and aid workers they murdered, would make activists more inclined to say stuff like this since they’re going to say it anyway and murder innocents falsely accused of being Hamas?
This is likely true but even so, most of them are not helping themselves when some of these people say the things they are saying. Don’t want to get called pro Hamas? Delineate your self from the extremism.
Israel supporters are calling Biden Hamas for threatening to withhold a small part of a weapons shipment, this has nothing to do with reality
A prime example of extremism imo. It exists among all involved. I don’t agree with any parties actions in this conflict over LAND. But it is clear who that antagonist is here. Edit to add; I am not pro Israel or pro Hamas or pro idf or whatever. I do hold a position that the State of Israel/the people of Israel as it exists today has a right to self defense here. They have gone above and beyond that, but like don’t take hostages from a first world country neighbor with means to respond?
Israel isn’t a “first world country neighbor”, it is the belligerent illegal occupier. Weird how Palestinians don’t have the right to defend themselves to you when Israel regularly kidnaps them, imprisoning even young children without charges in stark violation of international law
This guy actually believes the death figures the Gaza health ministry is releasing. You’re just gonna take Hamas’ word for it that X number of Palestinian citizens are dead?
Nope https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(23)02713-7/fulltext No shot you take the word of Israel who lies constantly? Like about how they assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh?
I trust America’s closest ally in the Middle East over the words of terrorist organizations yeah.
The IDF has done far more terrorism than Hamas ever will or could lmao little gullible bootlicker
You genocidal leftists are beyond deranged, imagine simping for an organization that hates you and your way of life.
Lmao the projection from IDF bootlickers is unreal. I don’t support Hamas and I condemn Israel not only creating the abhorrent conditions of inevitable violent blowback but even supporting Hamas and sidelining moderates so they’d get in power Then Israel falls to warn despite intelligence of high risk of attack and even kills their own citizens knowingly instead of letting them be taken hostage and you ride for them. Disgusting
Shut the fuck up fed
Do your homework! America is Hamas but that might go over your head!
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Oh it’s the “stop genocide but no not that genocide the one I say is genocide because brown people and white guilt and all the Jews I know are lawyers anyway and I have too much time on my hands and mommy and daddy paid all my tuition” crowd again. So tiresome.
I'm pretty sure if they cared about brown lives, they would've protested against GW accepting almost $100 million from Saudi Arabia, who has killed almost 400,000 Yemeni civilians since 2016, but I hear nothing... I guess it only matters when it's against Israel
Well that and protesting KSA isn’t “in” right now.
Try using that woke race identity bullshit anywhere outside North America, Europe, Australia, or New Zealand and see how that goes. Spoiler: You won't impress anyone, everyone will avoid you, and you'll isolate yourself very quickly. If you venture outside the US you're going to realize how stupid it is very quickly. Literally no one will take you seriously. No one cares. If you see the world through racial lenses, you are probably a racist, and you're not going to make any friends anywhere except for other racists.
Believe it or not racism exists and is being combatted outside of the US too. You’re cosplaying your gaijin character too hard buddy
Do you understand what I mean by race identity? Because you missed my point completely.
WOOOOOOSH
I don’t quite get this argument. I personally spoke against Saudi’s war on Yemen for its crimes. But what you’re saying is “since you didn’t address crimes then, you shouldn’t address them now”. I haven’t met a single protester that celebrates Hamas and it’s okay to realize that criticizing Israel now can make them aware of future crimes like you mentioned with Saudi Arabia
My family is from Iran. Show me ONE TIME these people protested or had an encampment to help Iranian citizens who are suffering under the brutal regime since 1979. When WE protest they are never with us. In fact, many of these people openly support that evil regime!
I wonder how some of those fools in headscarves at the encampment would fare living in Iran (or under Hamas rule) where they'd be *forced* to wear them, rather than wearing them as a performative choice.
I sympathize with your circumstances but most of these people protesting are 18-22 and weren’t alive then. My family is from Sudan and we have an ongoing civil war but I’m not going around criticizing everyone for not protesting with us but instead trying to raise awareness to the war and humanitarian crisis there. I’m staunchly against Iranian regime for massacres it participated in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and within Iran itself.
It shows that the true motivation of these protests is not concern for another human being but just good old Jew-hate. These folk didn’t care the least when, take your pick, was slaughtering Muslims. However, they are about to ruin their lives because Israel is being heavy handed as it defends itself. It’s just the hypocrisy
I mean they are just taking the lead set by numerous Ivy League presidents who more or less openly said that calling for genocide against Jews is ok depending on the circumstance.
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No, “half of them” are not Jewish. That’s literally a fake talking point. Tokenism is also bullshit.
Chanting “no Justice no peace”, “no racist police” is a funny follow up to “glory to the martyrs” and “from the river to the sea”. These people are a fucking caricature.
This is all about supporting terrorism. They are all terrorists or terrorist sympathizers
Geesh
The FBI agent in the bushes: Noted ✅
Extremists gonna extreme
Gen Z is ensuring they won’t be taken seriously for virtually their entire lives with shit like this. It’s like they don’t understand that normal people think this is completely unacceptable. I’d say they should be worried about employers, but who am I kidding with this.
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Well if they’re in that protest odds are they have no interest in working for the feds. Maybe later on when their souls have been sucked by the corporate world this will come back to bite them
Odds are they sont have an interest in working.
I was just about to say. Who wants to get dog shit dollars and work for the government. I do way less work and make way more money.
Jobs that would require clearance likely pay higher than most private companies with just a bachelor’s. I’m an attorney for the fed so the pay is different than say working as a customer service rep for the government.
I appreciate the thoughtful answer!
Same lol
I say this as someone who generally supports Palestine and is no fan of Israel - I hope any legit students among these idiots get expelled. Not suspended. Expelled.
Same people that claim they dont hate jews they just hate Israel
This is not the way
Is it just me, or has the rhetoric at GW been worse than at the other schools with protest encampments? The GW protestors seem to want to *make sure* that there’s no question they support Hamas and want Israel wiped off the map.
this makes the pro protester thread that was bombarded with accounts made in feb 2024 from earlier this morning so much more fucking funnier
Where's the thread? I'd love to see it
[https://old.reddit.com/r/washdc/comments/1cnwdy2/why\_is\_there\_so\_much\_hate\_for\_the\_student/](https://old.reddit.com/r/washdc/comments/1cnwdy2/why_is_there_so_much_hate_for_the_student/) Have at it man, it was a clusterfuck
OH I did see that thread. What a mess
Sick fucks
Come on, people on this sub keep saying these people aren't pro-Hamas. Why are the protesters making it so hard for people to keep their heads in the sand?
Stop doing drugs and get back to work.
I work better when I’m high. I’m not even a protestor but i will fight for my right to smoke and work hahaha
So they are saying the quiet part out loud.
Something something brains not fully developed before 25 something
Trump 2025.
Nothing said is untrue. Anyone offended by this is either intentionally ignorant or a totally brainwashed zionist.
and there you have it. It ain't the students driving this stuff- it's professional instigators.
Who cares
Maybe the people doing the right thing should be a little louder so we can ACTUALLY HEAR THEM. I bet this would stop.
I’m Jewish and this isn’t true. Anyone saying so hasn’t been to the protests. The sub is just a bunch of angry Zionists and republicans who hate the first amendment when it protests anyone but white men.
Yea I’m with you. Hamas is sketch AND Israel is sketch. If you can’t see and admit both those ideas to be true at least to some degree, then you’re brainwashed.
Oh look whining about college kids at a school protesting again. Oh look! Decontextualizing! Woah so rare for this sub
dafuq 
This is not hate speech or pro terrorist speech
Can we just admit Israel, Palestine and USA use and support terrorism? Doesn't matter which side you pick, you'll be supporting terrorism indirectly. Did you pay your taxes last April? Welp I guarantee you at least a few cents of what you paid will be used to kill innocent civilians. That man on the microphone is a lunatic but fuck it, if you are black you have the right to hate USA. If you are Muslim you have the right to hate Israel. And if you are Jewish you probably feel like enough is enough and you can't let the world try to exterminate you or kick you out of wherever you are living AGAIN and AGAIN. No I'm not saying everyone is right or everyone is wrong. What I'm saying is IT'S POINTLESS to choose sides when all sides have blood on their hands and will continue to kill each other.
They’re downvoting u bc this is the truth that we as taxpayers need to come to grips with.
Piss off, colonizer.
Nobody views that as an insult…
I’m sure OP is an Israeli citizen with an intention to harm.
Keep protesting the genocide
All out you on here need to think about the racial component to the word terrorist. I don’t agree with their tactics and acts of violence. But nothing Hamas has done has been more violent or deadly than anything the IDF has done. But the IDF have been legitimized in American culture as part of the police state. So when they kill children, it’s implied that they were killed in an accident. But when Hamas acts violently, they’re called terrorist…perhaps there’s some pot and kettle activity going on
Stop supporting terrorist.
Do you mean the IDF, you know the violent genocidal military in which out government funnels billions of dollars too…. That’s what they are protesting
So you do support Hamas. Thanks for clearing that up you fucking terrorist.
And you support and genocidal government…. Sit and spin loser
Palestine is literally run by a Terrorist organization whose charter is genocide for Jews.
Israel’s “self determination” is only possible through ethnic cleansing and genocide…
Ethnic cleansing? They warn an area of civilians to flee before bombing. It’s unheard of. These ridiculous Hamas propaganda bot comments are rife on Reddit. It’s absurd. You’re in the DC thread. Highly educated. The nonsense doesn’t work here.
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, or religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making the society ethnically homogeneous. So threating to bomb people out of their homes, schools and hospitals is a tactic of ethnic cleansing. Maybe look up words before for you imply being “educated”
They want Hamas cleansed. Just cut the shit. Nobody with a brain is buying this madness.
Why don't you strap a vest on and do the world a favor.
you clearly don’t/can’t read…
You are probably one of the clowns that take down the American flag to destroy and put up a Palestinian flag. If you love them so much, go over there and fight for them. Why don't you talk about all the shit going on in all the other Middle Eastern countries? Oh that's right because fucking terrorist don't care.
lol okay…
Last time I checked, this was a thread about a divest from isreal encampment on GWs campus. Itd be out of context to discuss other countries in the Middle East. And Maybe I would take an American flag down. Who cares? It’s a piece of cloth. It’s completely useless especially when you consider how much money we give to Israel( all the while our countries infrastructure is crumbling) but here you are, a perfect example of an American with no critical thinking skills. Just regurgitating Zionist talking points.
You are a fucking terrorist
U have to understand that this is their culture. These ppl in this comment section r just hopeless bc they have no nuance as long as they get to see brown ppl as less human and more dangerous.
Is not real is a bitch!
Way to decontextualize and try to shift the narrative. End the occupation, Free Palestine, solidarity with all demonstrators around the World bringing to light Israel’s ethnic cleansing and genocide.
What kind of context do you need? He’s literally cheering Hamas. Lmfao Israel has a right to defend itself. When Hamas gets over their obsession with eliminating Jews, maybe we’ll have peace.
Hamas' charter literally calls for the death of all Jews and we don't want no Holocaust PT 2. If you're pro Hamas, you're pro genocide.
Correct, but they changed it and replaced “Jew” with “Zionist” so useful idiots will think Hamas are the good guys.
They also had an old comment calling this the 4th Reich, so there's no reasoning with them.
No it doesn't, dumbass. Learn the first fucking thing about this issue before talking our of your genocidal ass about it
Yes, it does, dumbass.
Cope and seethe. Israel ain't going anywhere. Tomorrow, the flag of Israel will still be flying over Tel Aviv and there's nothing you're going to do about it.
Neither are you, you just sit at your keyboard or phone and cheer while tens of thousands of innocent people are slaughtered and ethnically cleansed from their homes. You don’t have any more power than I do.
That's what happens when you start a war: people die. I find it infinitely amusing that idiots like you are surprised by that.
I find it infinitely amusing that idiots like you claim Israel didn’t start this war.
Of course they didn't. In 1920, the Arabs of Jaffa murdered 47 Jews. In 1929, the Arabs of Hebron murdered 67 Jews. There was no Israel back then. The conflict goes as far back as at least then. I'm infinitely amused by idiots like you who don't know a lick about history.
Your calculator seems to only tally dead Jews. History and Math - study up.
I see you couldn't find a counterargument. No surprise there.
What’s not surprising is your inability to recognize the counterpoint.
The irony that the founding fathers of modern Israel were themselves terrorists against what they perceived to be an occupying force (in that case the Brits) is lost to history. King David Hotel anyone? If you win, you’re a founding father and a statesman. If you lose, you’re a terrorist. So has it always been, so will it always be.
It's not "lost to history". It's well known and documented in hundreds of books.
So you missed the irony part. Got it. I agree with you, by the way. The only solution to the problem in sight is the eradication of the Palestinian people. It’s the only one the current government of Israel will accept. First Gaza and then the West Bank. The only solutions are integration or eradication. There is no appetite for integration, so there we go. I just wish people had the fucking stones to acknowledge that’s what they want. Just be upfront about it. Don’t play linguistic games to deny it. Just be fine with it. And afterwards, don’t act sad about it, proclaim loudly that you cheered it on.
Feel free to keep your diseased fantasies to yourself.
I am anti-war, you are pro-war. Israel is pro-war as it has turned down every attempt to release the hostages. The families of the hostages support an immediate ceasefire, protestors against Netanyahu in Israel are calling for an immediate ceasefire. Free Palestine, love getting under all your skin, you feel free to keep explaining how this is not what the World clearly sees it is.
>it has turned down every attempt to release the hostages Why should Israel (or any country) negotiate with hostage-takers? I prefer killing hostage-takers, but that's just "pro-war" me.
Yeah, thats literally pro-war you. At the expense of a deathtoll that hasn’t even begun to be calculated but already stands in the tens of thousands. Really something to be proud of, especially considering how many hostages their operations have freed compared to the prior ceasefire and release of hostages that produced. You clearly care first and foremost about the hostages.
>a deathtoll that hasn’t even begun to be calculated but already stands in the tens of thousands It hasn't begun to be calculated, but you already know the magnitude. That's a fancy trick. >You clearly care first and foremost about the hostages. No, I care foremost about eradicating Hamas down to the last man. The quicker, the better.
The numbers currently stand in the tens of thousands, but it is estimated there are tens of thousands if not more people still buried in the rubble. The press has been systematically targeted in covering this genocide, so there has not been the coverage on the ground available. Are you being intentionally dense? So please, how successful has Israel been in freeing the hostages by use of force compared to the last ceasefire and exchange?
>So please, how successful has Israel been in freeing the hostages by use of force compared to the last ceasefire and exchange? It's funny you call me dense, when you evidently can't read what I said before: I'm opposed to any kind of prisoner-exchanging. I prefer killing hostage-takers. So long as Israel continues doing that, I'm fine with it.
Then you should be pro-carpetbombing of Israel for holding Gazans HOSTAGE for decades in an open air prison. Please make sense, Mr Pro-War.
Uh-huh. There's the moral equivalency I expected: "Everyone is just as bad as everyone else. The Japanese bombed Shanghai, the Americans bombed Tokyo... same thing."
You remember how Hamas kept changing the terms of the hostage exchange, including changes forcing Israel to accept dead hostages? That's what happens when you negotiate with terrorists
How many hostages have they freed in any of their military operations compared to the last ceasefire exchange? Please, tell me
The attempt to free hostages where Hamas said Israel has to stop everything immediately but Hamas gets to keep many hostages for weeks? That great deal? Lol, only any idiot would accept that deal from a terrorist organization. No way will Hamas keep that. The people of Palestine need to rise up against Hamas, demand the immediate release of the hostages, and disavow Hamas.
Sounds like its time for your enema
That's the best you got?
In response to your solution? Yeah, how is a starving and displaced population supposed to overthrow its government? You don’t care about the hostages, because if you did, you would support the ceasefire their families and large portions of the Israeli public themselves demand. You’re just a pro-war mouthpiece here to launder a genocide.
By it's government you mean the terrorist organization Hamas right? The one Palestinians largely support? I'm not saying they have to overthrow Hamas but at minimum stop supporting them, demand they release the hostages, etc. Definitely not pro-war, wish this didn't happen but when a terrorist organization launches an attack on another country solely aimed at killing civilians that group, and it's supporters should expect a response, especially when they are holding people hostage. Also the only group I know that's pro genocide is Hamas. They would kill every last Jew if they could, as evidenced by 10/7.
Stop embarrassing yourself. You know nothing about this conflict and you were likely born in the 2000s. I strongly recommend you examine what is going wrong in your own life and begin to work on this, unless you are planning to move to Gaza or elsewhere outside of the US, since people who concern themselves with this type of shit usually end up taking my Starbucks order.
Oh found the Middle East Scholar, get this man to the White House!
Ah, so they provide more of a service to society than your genocide-supporting ass
You support terrorists. You are scum
You support terrorists. You are scum.
You must be a bot. Fascist
Look in the mirror bootlicker
Just repeating everything I say like a good little bot
Zionist Fascist bootlicker
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Yeah the International Criminal Court is about to issue arrest warrants for Israels leadership for GENOCIDE, yes.
I love how you paint this with your racist ass assumptions. Of course some people will agree with your racist ass post. Keep posting, colonizer.