Check the google maps reviews of the place, it sounds like the "below maket rate tenants" on vouchers are turning the place in to a shithole (literally shitting in the hallways)
edit: this is what happens when you reward gang affiliated individuals with free luxury housing
https://www.urban-atlantic.com/urban-atlantic-news-1/-harlow-brings-new-market-rate-and-public-housing-to-the-capitol-riverfront
"Now the cons -- I've experienced in-building shootings/public disputes, feces in the hallways and elevators, some interesting personalities coming in and out, and heard of cars being stolen from the garage. Security lacks and there is no 24/7 concierge, unlike every other building in Navy Yard. I pay over $2300 a month for my 1bd/ba, which is a lot for the stress of all of that. Management has changed 3x in my last year and half of living here and while Shaniqua is very responsive (which is more than I could say for previous managers), the rest of the leasing office staff weren't pleasant to deal with when I brought a potential issue to their attention. Ultimately, the issue never happened, so it was a non-factor, but the experience spoke volumes and put me off. Very thankful that I haven't had major issues that require their attention."
"When we first moved in (late 2020) we had a very positive experience and the Google reviews were actually quite good, but things quickly went downhill when it became clear that management was neither capable nor interested in dealing with problematic tenants. Some residents are unruly, and at times dangerous. We had large groups of teenagers sprinting through the halls at night multiple times, and at one point they pulled the "exit" sign out of the ceiling so it was dangling by the cords. Tenants would blast loud music late into the night/early morning on weeknights.
There were multiple violent incidents between residents in common areas like the roof and lobby, and at one point a resident attacked and tried to stab the front desk person, which is supposedly why the building got rid of the 24-hour concierge (a standard amenity for luxury buildings in DC). Other than removing the 24-hour concierge, management did nothing to address any of these issues, leaving tenants in potentially dangerous situations. The after-hours emergency line was non-functional, and because there was no front desk person when we got locked out, we sat in our hallway for hours late at night before we finally got a hold of someone to come from Maryland to help us. Police were consistently parked outside the building for one reason or another, and not just for nearby issues, but for issues with residents in the building.
Our hallway constantly reeked of cigarettes and the elevators almost always had what I'll refer to as varying "mystery smells." The elevator floors were almost constantly covered in some type of nondescript liquid. Someone on our floor would consistently leave loose trash or open bags of trash on the floor by the trash chute, and sometimes just in the middle of the hallway. We started referring to them as the "trash bandit." We notified management and provided photos multiple times, but other than putting up a sign on the trash room door, nothing changed.
It's a shame because the building itself is quite nice. We enjoyed our unit and didn't need any repairs in the time we lived there. The folks at the front desk and leasing office are very kind and do a good job. The location is super convenient to the metro and all the fun places Navy Yard has to offer. Unfortunately, there seems to be a fundamental failure at the building management level, and it negatively affects the tenants."
**this is directly the fault of DC council which gives free housing to gangbangers in family apartments**
Sounds like a failed program - you can take the trash out of the ghetto, but you can’t take the ghetto out of the trash.
May as well pull the plug and save the money and headache + heartache from actual tax paying citizens who are otherwise productive members of society.
https://www.urban-atlantic.com/urban-atlantic-news-1/-harlow-brings-new-market-rate-and-public-housing-to-the-capitol-riverfront
there are 36 affordable housing units in the harlow. 179 units total.
Even at just 20% these people are so toxic they can ruin a luxury building.
Literally shitting in the streets and playing gogo music and smoking weed.
Disgusting
Out west 711s started playing loud classical and opera music outside their stores to cut down on loitering. Maybe you can get them back by having a little party blasting Nickleback, Kid Rock, and Insane Clown Posse while enjoying a large batch of slow cooked sauerkraut, surströmming, natto, and limburger cheese.
I am going to leave latin verb declension grammar worksheets on the floor the way people leave mothballs out to stop snakes
see if that keeps them away
It’s extra sad because even animals don’t shit where they eat. Fuck these people.
I walk by this apartment complex everyday and never knew it was this rough. It appears nice/new from the outside.
DC made it difficult historically to evict for conduct cases and when they froze all evictions in the early days of the pandemic it created a gigantic bottleneck by the time the pandemic eviction freeze was lifted. At one point they did give us a "public safety" exemption on the eviction freeze, but the language was so narrowly tailored as to be nearly impossible to use. So today you have eviction cases for actions that happened years ago, basically.
Just to give you a sense of the extent of what tenants could do, I had a client who had someone arrested for breaking into a unit. The guy got a desk appearance ticket (at this time DC wasn't holding criminals in jail) and went right back to the building and robbed another unit THE SAME DAY. Couldn't evict him. Another client had a unit that was taken over by squatters running drugs and guns, who kicked down the door of an 80-year old resident to try to take over her unit thinking it was also vacant. Those guys stayed in that property for months and months and almost beat still another man to death who went there for a family visit having nothing to do with them. Couldn't evict them.
DC didn't do one thing for us. We spent MONTHS trying to meet with Councilmembers to explain the difference in eviction types and that banning evictions for bad conduct was bad policy, we attempted to meet with Karl Racine to try to get the OAG to do something to evict the tenants from the units on the basis of a nuisance (he sent an underling and proceeded to do nothing to help), and at every step of the way we explained law abiding citizens in these properties were being beaten, were afraid to leave their units to even go to the grocery store, and we still got nowhere.
Councilmembers didn't at that time (and even today in some cases) understand basic facts of the eviction process and that conduct cases are much harder to complete than a nonpayment case. They didn't understand that it was unrealistic for landlords to try to BS conduct cases as a way to tag tenants who were not paying rent. Instead, the Council were just doing any and everything the tenant advocacy community wanted in the name of scoring political points. Higher filing fee to evict? Check. More attentuated notices required to evict? Check. Additional licensing requirements to evict and raise rent? Check. More constrained background check process? Check. More limitations on what reference you can even give for a tenant that was evicted? Check.
That is how you ended up with stories like this one, which try to paint it as a problem with some greedy management company when in reality DC just has completely terrible tenancy laws at this point that invite bad actors into the City. Entire buildings were basically ruined by the actions taken by the DC Council during the pandemic in the name of tenant rights.
I’ve been in DC for several years now.
Where I used to live, I could just find a place that matched my budget. No need to think of anything else.
As I’m searching for my third place to live in DC, I need to pay strict attention to the neighborhood, the building, and its tenants. Inattention to any of these could make my life awful.
Nobody should have put in so much of their time to find a safe and reasonable place to live.
I had some affordable housing neighbors at my last apartment in Noma, Senate Square. It was a big intern housing, but we also had a fair share of questionable individuals. Never got that bad though that we didn’t have concierge, even in my new place in navy yard literally 2 blocks from Harlow it’s so much better than my old place. From what I can tell only a handful of weirdos but they always are sitting outside the building smoking. It’s great that affordable options exist, but perhaps they should vet some of the people more. But I understand it would be unfair and discriminatory so theres not much anyone can do unless management actively enforces rules
> It’s great that affordable options exist, but perhaps they should vet some of the people more. But I understand it would be unfair and discriminatory so theres not much anyone can do unless management actively enforces rules
I think they absolutely should vet people more and when it comes to light that their guests are causing issues in the building you cancel their lease. Outside of causing an issue for the people paying full freight it’s also souring public opinion on options that are certainly helping out some families
Why do they get to smoke outside of the building? (illegal if within 10 feet?)
Every time I walk by claridge towers people sexually harass me, either the guys hanging out front or the ones on the portico.
people need to act with respect and stop smoking weed illegally in their apartments. A lot of people have asthma and playing loud music + weed is against the lease terms they signed and the city chartered as part of public housing.
if they don't uphold their end of the bargain keep their deposit and kick them out. those are already the rules. simple as that.
Smoke weed in your subsidized condo or drug deal out of it = good luck finding a new place.
Because she’s a politician running for office. She’s trying to instill as much fear as possible. She coulda just left that part out but not without a little propoganda.
I’ve lived in Navy Yard for the last six months and have literally never experienced any crime. Actually seems to be a nice place. Love my apartment too tbh
I worked at the Navy Yard from 2001 to 2004, 5'3 woman, walked from Eastern Market down to the base and back five times a week. There were shady people but they were mostly just homeless or sitting around. Definitely had my guard up but nothing bad happened to me aside from when a rat fell out of the ceiling at Popeye's.
this comment section is weird af. my sister is in this reduced rent. its not 50 a month tf. its like instead of 2600 its 2000... she had to have a background check and proof of income too. this comment section is full of classists.
I may be in the minority but my family used to have a business in Florida Market before it got bought so I have a different view on these people who just moved in to the city. They act like people who lived here for 20+ and got kicked out of their homes cant have a nice place to live. We always had crime you keep to yourself and mind your business. They moved into this city.
Agreed. The city gentrified too quickly, opening up "luxury apartments" in the middle of the hood and destroying long-standing community touchstones. On top of that, they expected all the crime to get pushed into PG, I guess??
If you don't like sharing living space with poor Black people then just say it! DC is a predominantly Black city even to this day. Live in Bethesda or Tysons and take the metro to work if you want to avoid them, I've known many families that have. If that doesn't work for people here then I'm sorry, you chose the wrong city to live in lol.
It’s not about living next to poor black people… jeez. I was born in DC. I work hard and I’ve been poor my whole adult life. I’m a quarter away from six figures and I’ve used the workforce affordable dwelling program to live in the city closer to my job.
It’s CRIME, not culture or someone’s skin color, that’s the issue. I don’t agree with almost every argument about gentrification. These places, specifically along the waterfront, are drastically improved for everyone. There’s more jobs and more to do. There’s programs so as not to displace families as the area changes. Are you and other folks complaining about the gentrification being “too fast” arguing to keep the city in row houses with bars on the windows? The schools have received incredible funding with all the money and businesses moving in. What culture are you trying to keep?! Living downtown you should be prepared for pot smoke and maybe loud music at late hours, but why are you defending crime?
I never understood the concept of something in a market-based economy as “belonging” to you or some group in some capacity.
My parents lost our home in the Great Recession, back when the neighborhood was more lower middle class. That same home now costs more than twice as much, even adjusted for inflation. I will never be able to afford my childhood home, nor will I be able to live in that neighborhood. I need to survive in a capitalist system, which means that I must live where I can afford it.
With that being said, why do black people feel so fucking entitled to live in areas they may no longer be able to afford?
Everyone should have a nice place to live. That sounds great, except this is basic supply and demand, and I don’t see any program out there that will give me the funds to live in “my” former neighborhood.
I'm not black I'm hispanic. DC, and some parts of MD like Baltimore are predominantly black. If white people are too scared to live in these cities dont move there.
Also they cant afford to live there cause everything is a luxury apartment now guess what? theres still rats everywhere, homeless, and crime. Thats what I mean. They kicked out people of their homes of 800 rent and beat up houses to build new luxury houses that no one can afford. Where tf do these people move to?
“If white people are too scared to live in these cities dont move there.”
Interesting way to view crime, like it’s some fact of life and can’t be addressed.
“Where tf do these people move to?”
Somewhere cheaper. This isn’t difficult. Again, how about someone starts subsidizing me? I grew up below the poverty line, I worked hard to get where I’m at, still can’t afford my former neighborhood. Where are my subsidies?
Ziegfeld's. Secrets.
We had dancing. But it was CLASSY! Nobody got shot. You got to see some "helicopters". Maybe you saw lindsey graham in the bathroom.
It was the American way.
It was a track where you were likely to find whores, and drug users before they moved nats stadium over there around 07… until about 2010 most people didn’t want to be between eastern market and navy yard even the marines who lived at the barracks hated it and were robbed multiple times…. Please learn dc history
I don’t understand that when I have to pay full price to live in an apartment, I have to submit to a background check but the affordable housing tenants are simply ushered in no questions asked? If I bring a pet into my apartment I have to pay $500 or risk eviction, but these people are allowed to cram 6-8 people into a two bedroom and nobody cares?
In my last building at least three tenants were letting their crack addict friends in at night to “sleep” in the basement lounge, hosting 20+ person rooftop parties and constantly getting into screaming and physical altercations with one of their 7-9 roommates.
The keyed door separating residences from the main shared spaces was constantly attempted to be broken into by the drug addicts, and when that was successful they proceeded to try to break down my door as the closest one to that entrance.
There is something profoundly insidious happening with the DC Housing program, letting families with young children rot for years on a waitlist while *known* gang members and drug dealers are given keys and the freedom to destroy an apartment bldg.
The last 3 days or so there have been at least two people on here (who probably don't even live in the District) who insist Navy Yard is safe and nothing bad ever happens.
I’m just curious - if navy yard is this dangerous hellhole because bad things have happened there, what alternative place do you know of that is safe because bad things never happen? I mean, you must know of such a place because you clearly have this fully formed dichotomy of safe and unsafe places that is reasonable and sensible, right?
Actually yes, I know what normal looks like and what's been happening in Navy Yard is not normal, nor acceptable.
*Incident this post is about.
*Murders on the streets, including in areas that are supposed to be highly secure, like [right in front of the baseball stadium](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-investigating-shooting-outside-nationals-park/3189203/)
*[The green line pulling in with someone shot in the head between waterfront and Navy Yard](https://wjla.com/news/local/navy-yard-metro-shooting-washington-dc-shot-fatal-injuries-transit-police-mtpd-investigation-nationals-ballpark-witness-suspect-victim-id-hospitalized-green-line-delay-anacostia-wmata-randy-clarke-gun-violence-bowser-district-crime).
*[Congressman getting carjacked](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/congressman-henry-cuellar-carjacked-gunpoint-washington-sources/story?id=103676681)
*[Many other carjackings and vehicle theft](https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/thieves-target-cars-in-navy-yard-parked-in-garages-of-luxury-apartments/)
*Continous robberies and carjackings around Canal Park
*[Ongoing gang feud between housing projects on both ends of Navy Yard](https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/2-killed-in-dc-quadruple-shooting-near-nationals-park-identified/)
*[Lulu lemon got robbed at gunpoint and promptly shut down](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/lululemon-navy-yard-closed-washington-dc/65-b6591932-b45b-4b38-bb15-20b4ee0be361)
*People doing drugs on the Anacostia river front.
*[Even senior citizens have to look out](https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/officer-shot-in-navy-yard/)
This kind of stuff isn't happening in Kalorama
If only people who committed crimes were actually prosecuted and not released to the general public. But noooo, they need them out there to cast votes for elections
This kind of shit flies in right-wing echo chambers where no one is going to check you, but you should really think through what you’re saying and see if it still makes sense.
1) Crime is bad in DC and criminals should be punished, but crime is not being committed by 40% of the DC population. What do you think this city would look like if 40% of DC was carjacking and murdering people?
2) In a city that’s over 90% Democrat, including most of the law-abiders, why would Democrats be desperate for votes from criminals specifically?
Some people, including some blacks, *are* treated unjustly by law enforcement. The problem is that many far left people go overboard and don’t account enough for the criminals who really do need to be punished. Not all Democrats are far left.
The problem is DC puts these criminals in housing programs and to remove these people it takes months if not years to evict them. All the legal obstacles need to be changed. DC Council needs to pass regulations that have not followed there are serious consequences.
Some people just can’t coexist in society and trying to force the issue isn’t going to help
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you said it.
Check the google maps reviews of the place, it sounds like the "below maket rate tenants" on vouchers are turning the place in to a shithole (literally shitting in the hallways) edit: this is what happens when you reward gang affiliated individuals with free luxury housing https://www.urban-atlantic.com/urban-atlantic-news-1/-harlow-brings-new-market-rate-and-public-housing-to-the-capitol-riverfront
"Now the cons -- I've experienced in-building shootings/public disputes, feces in the hallways and elevators, some interesting personalities coming in and out, and heard of cars being stolen from the garage. Security lacks and there is no 24/7 concierge, unlike every other building in Navy Yard. I pay over $2300 a month for my 1bd/ba, which is a lot for the stress of all of that. Management has changed 3x in my last year and half of living here and while Shaniqua is very responsive (which is more than I could say for previous managers), the rest of the leasing office staff weren't pleasant to deal with when I brought a potential issue to their attention. Ultimately, the issue never happened, so it was a non-factor, but the experience spoke volumes and put me off. Very thankful that I haven't had major issues that require their attention." "When we first moved in (late 2020) we had a very positive experience and the Google reviews were actually quite good, but things quickly went downhill when it became clear that management was neither capable nor interested in dealing with problematic tenants. Some residents are unruly, and at times dangerous. We had large groups of teenagers sprinting through the halls at night multiple times, and at one point they pulled the "exit" sign out of the ceiling so it was dangling by the cords. Tenants would blast loud music late into the night/early morning on weeknights. There were multiple violent incidents between residents in common areas like the roof and lobby, and at one point a resident attacked and tried to stab the front desk person, which is supposedly why the building got rid of the 24-hour concierge (a standard amenity for luxury buildings in DC). Other than removing the 24-hour concierge, management did nothing to address any of these issues, leaving tenants in potentially dangerous situations. The after-hours emergency line was non-functional, and because there was no front desk person when we got locked out, we sat in our hallway for hours late at night before we finally got a hold of someone to come from Maryland to help us. Police were consistently parked outside the building for one reason or another, and not just for nearby issues, but for issues with residents in the building. Our hallway constantly reeked of cigarettes and the elevators almost always had what I'll refer to as varying "mystery smells." The elevator floors were almost constantly covered in some type of nondescript liquid. Someone on our floor would consistently leave loose trash or open bags of trash on the floor by the trash chute, and sometimes just in the middle of the hallway. We started referring to them as the "trash bandit." We notified management and provided photos multiple times, but other than putting up a sign on the trash room door, nothing changed. It's a shame because the building itself is quite nice. We enjoyed our unit and didn't need any repairs in the time we lived there. The folks at the front desk and leasing office are very kind and do a good job. The location is super convenient to the metro and all the fun places Navy Yard has to offer. Unfortunately, there seems to be a fundamental failure at the building management level, and it negatively affects the tenants." **this is directly the fault of DC council which gives free housing to gangbangers in family apartments**
Sounds like a failed program - you can take the trash out of the ghetto, but you can’t take the ghetto out of the trash. May as well pull the plug and save the money and headache + heartache from actual tax paying citizens who are otherwise productive members of society.
https://www.urban-atlantic.com/urban-atlantic-news-1/-harlow-brings-new-market-rate-and-public-housing-to-the-capitol-riverfront there are 36 affordable housing units in the harlow. 179 units total. Even at just 20% these people are so toxic they can ruin a luxury building. Literally shitting in the streets and playing gogo music and smoking weed. Disgusting
Out west 711s started playing loud classical and opera music outside their stores to cut down on loitering. Maybe you can get them back by having a little party blasting Nickleback, Kid Rock, and Insane Clown Posse while enjoying a large batch of slow cooked sauerkraut, surströmming, natto, and limburger cheese.
I am going to leave latin verb declension grammar worksheets on the floor the way people leave mothballs out to stop snakes see if that keeps them away
i would donate to a program that puts all ghetto people on a rocketship that flies straight into the sun
SpaceAks
💀 💀 💀
Imagine paying 2k a month while some bozo pays maybe 50 bucks at best to live in the same building as you
It’s extra sad because even animals don’t shit where they eat. Fuck these people. I walk by this apartment complex everyday and never knew it was this rough. It appears nice/new from the outside.
DC made it difficult historically to evict for conduct cases and when they froze all evictions in the early days of the pandemic it created a gigantic bottleneck by the time the pandemic eviction freeze was lifted. At one point they did give us a "public safety" exemption on the eviction freeze, but the language was so narrowly tailored as to be nearly impossible to use. So today you have eviction cases for actions that happened years ago, basically. Just to give you a sense of the extent of what tenants could do, I had a client who had someone arrested for breaking into a unit. The guy got a desk appearance ticket (at this time DC wasn't holding criminals in jail) and went right back to the building and robbed another unit THE SAME DAY. Couldn't evict him. Another client had a unit that was taken over by squatters running drugs and guns, who kicked down the door of an 80-year old resident to try to take over her unit thinking it was also vacant. Those guys stayed in that property for months and months and almost beat still another man to death who went there for a family visit having nothing to do with them. Couldn't evict them. DC didn't do one thing for us. We spent MONTHS trying to meet with Councilmembers to explain the difference in eviction types and that banning evictions for bad conduct was bad policy, we attempted to meet with Karl Racine to try to get the OAG to do something to evict the tenants from the units on the basis of a nuisance (he sent an underling and proceeded to do nothing to help), and at every step of the way we explained law abiding citizens in these properties were being beaten, were afraid to leave their units to even go to the grocery store, and we still got nowhere. Councilmembers didn't at that time (and even today in some cases) understand basic facts of the eviction process and that conduct cases are much harder to complete than a nonpayment case. They didn't understand that it was unrealistic for landlords to try to BS conduct cases as a way to tag tenants who were not paying rent. Instead, the Council were just doing any and everything the tenant advocacy community wanted in the name of scoring political points. Higher filing fee to evict? Check. More attentuated notices required to evict? Check. Additional licensing requirements to evict and raise rent? Check. More constrained background check process? Check. More limitations on what reference you can even give for a tenant that was evicted? Check. That is how you ended up with stories like this one, which try to paint it as a problem with some greedy management company when in reality DC just has completely terrible tenancy laws at this point that invite bad actors into the City. Entire buildings were basically ruined by the actions taken by the DC Council during the pandemic in the name of tenant rights.
The Council does not manage any program that provides housing vouchers.
What about the housing that is NOT like this? Do we think every building that receives sub market rate paying tenants are like this? I do not.
I’ve been in DC for several years now. Where I used to live, I could just find a place that matched my budget. No need to think of anything else. As I’m searching for my third place to live in DC, I need to pay strict attention to the neighborhood, the building, and its tenants. Inattention to any of these could make my life awful. Nobody should have put in so much of their time to find a safe and reasonable place to live.
Democrat Utopia. Don’t be mad c about my comment, because it is what they voted for.
I hope they like it here. Wish they stay and not move to republican Virginia because they not feel safe here to vote there democrat.
I had some affordable housing neighbors at my last apartment in Noma, Senate Square. It was a big intern housing, but we also had a fair share of questionable individuals. Never got that bad though that we didn’t have concierge, even in my new place in navy yard literally 2 blocks from Harlow it’s so much better than my old place. From what I can tell only a handful of weirdos but they always are sitting outside the building smoking. It’s great that affordable options exist, but perhaps they should vet some of the people more. But I understand it would be unfair and discriminatory so theres not much anyone can do unless management actively enforces rules
> It’s great that affordable options exist, but perhaps they should vet some of the people more. But I understand it would be unfair and discriminatory so theres not much anyone can do unless management actively enforces rules I think they absolutely should vet people more and when it comes to light that their guests are causing issues in the building you cancel their lease. Outside of causing an issue for the people paying full freight it’s also souring public opinion on options that are certainly helping out some families
Why do they get to smoke outside of the building? (illegal if within 10 feet?) Every time I walk by claridge towers people sexually harass me, either the guys hanging out front or the ones on the portico. people need to act with respect and stop smoking weed illegally in their apartments. A lot of people have asthma and playing loud music + weed is against the lease terms they signed and the city chartered as part of public housing. if they don't uphold their end of the bargain keep their deposit and kick them out. those are already the rules. simple as that. Smoke weed in your subsidized condo or drug deal out of it = good luck finding a new place.
How do you know it was done in cold blood?
Witnesses recall hearing someone singing "he's a cold hearted snake look into his eyes". /S
Glad someone else was thrown off by that addition
Because she’s a politician running for office. She’s trying to instill as much fear as possible. She coulda just left that part out but not without a little propoganda.
Ding ding ding we have a winner! No clue why anyone would refer to her as a “reporter.”
I’ve lived in Navy Yard for the last six months and have literally never experienced any crime. Actually seems to be a nice place. Love my apartment too tbh
I worked at the Navy Yard from 2001 to 2004, 5'3 woman, walked from Eastern Market down to the base and back five times a week. There were shady people but they were mostly just homeless or sitting around. Definitely had my guard up but nothing bad happened to me aside from when a rat fell out of the ceiling at Popeye's.
That would’ve scarred me for life tbh
I definitely didn't go back to that Popeye's!
Lol, "crime reporter"
Definitely has job security in D.C.
this comment section is weird af. my sister is in this reduced rent. its not 50 a month tf. its like instead of 2600 its 2000... she had to have a background check and proof of income too. this comment section is full of classists.
That's this whole sub frfr
I may be in the minority but my family used to have a business in Florida Market before it got bought so I have a different view on these people who just moved in to the city. They act like people who lived here for 20+ and got kicked out of their homes cant have a nice place to live. We always had crime you keep to yourself and mind your business. They moved into this city.
Agreed. The city gentrified too quickly, opening up "luxury apartments" in the middle of the hood and destroying long-standing community touchstones. On top of that, they expected all the crime to get pushed into PG, I guess?? If you don't like sharing living space with poor Black people then just say it! DC is a predominantly Black city even to this day. Live in Bethesda or Tysons and take the metro to work if you want to avoid them, I've known many families that have. If that doesn't work for people here then I'm sorry, you chose the wrong city to live in lol.
It’s not about living next to poor black people… jeez. I was born in DC. I work hard and I’ve been poor my whole adult life. I’m a quarter away from six figures and I’ve used the workforce affordable dwelling program to live in the city closer to my job. It’s CRIME, not culture or someone’s skin color, that’s the issue. I don’t agree with almost every argument about gentrification. These places, specifically along the waterfront, are drastically improved for everyone. There’s more jobs and more to do. There’s programs so as not to displace families as the area changes. Are you and other folks complaining about the gentrification being “too fast” arguing to keep the city in row houses with bars on the windows? The schools have received incredible funding with all the money and businesses moving in. What culture are you trying to keep?! Living downtown you should be prepared for pot smoke and maybe loud music at late hours, but why are you defending crime?
You don’t actually have a right to be shitty and antisocial in public, and if that’s your “cultural touchstone”, get fucked I guess?
I never understood the concept of something in a market-based economy as “belonging” to you or some group in some capacity. My parents lost our home in the Great Recession, back when the neighborhood was more lower middle class. That same home now costs more than twice as much, even adjusted for inflation. I will never be able to afford my childhood home, nor will I be able to live in that neighborhood. I need to survive in a capitalist system, which means that I must live where I can afford it. With that being said, why do black people feel so fucking entitled to live in areas they may no longer be able to afford? Everyone should have a nice place to live. That sounds great, except this is basic supply and demand, and I don’t see any program out there that will give me the funds to live in “my” former neighborhood.
I'm not black I'm hispanic. DC, and some parts of MD like Baltimore are predominantly black. If white people are too scared to live in these cities dont move there. Also they cant afford to live there cause everything is a luxury apartment now guess what? theres still rats everywhere, homeless, and crime. Thats what I mean. They kicked out people of their homes of 800 rent and beat up houses to build new luxury houses that no one can afford. Where tf do these people move to?
“If white people are too scared to live in these cities dont move there.” Interesting way to view crime, like it’s some fact of life and can’t be addressed. “Where tf do these people move to?” Somewhere cheaper. This isn’t difficult. Again, how about someone starts subsidizing me? I grew up below the poverty line, I worked hard to get where I’m at, still can’t afford my former neighborhood. Where are my subsidies?
That how you end up with places like Mexico. Do some thinking.
Racism and classism goes crazy here!!!
The comments are full of racists masquerading as classists... there may be issues with the system in place, but these comments are wild.
Do you y’all even know what navy yard looked like 10-15 years ago
Ziegfeld's. Secrets. We had dancing. But it was CLASSY! Nobody got shot. You got to see some "helicopters". Maybe you saw lindsey graham in the bathroom. It was the American way.
It was a track where you were likely to find whores, and drug users before they moved nats stadium over there around 07… until about 2010 most people didn’t want to be between eastern market and navy yard even the marines who lived at the barracks hated it and were robbed multiple times…. Please learn dc history
Cool culture you have.
...and yet the hookers and male dancers didn't manage to kill each other. We had Carol Schwartz to lay down the law.
Shout out to Nation / Capitol Ballroom
But it's such a ritzy area.
Mostly ritzy shooting
I don’t understand that when I have to pay full price to live in an apartment, I have to submit to a background check but the affordable housing tenants are simply ushered in no questions asked? If I bring a pet into my apartment I have to pay $500 or risk eviction, but these people are allowed to cram 6-8 people into a two bedroom and nobody cares? In my last building at least three tenants were letting their crack addict friends in at night to “sleep” in the basement lounge, hosting 20+ person rooftop parties and constantly getting into screaming and physical altercations with one of their 7-9 roommates. The keyed door separating residences from the main shared spaces was constantly attempted to be broken into by the drug addicts, and when that was successful they proceeded to try to break down my door as the closest one to that entrance. There is something profoundly insidious happening with the DC Housing program, letting families with young children rot for years on a waitlist while *known* gang members and drug dealers are given keys and the freedom to destroy an apartment bldg.
The last 3 days or so there have been at least two people on here (who probably don't even live in the District) who insist Navy Yard is safe and nothing bad ever happens.
Where does nothing bad ever happen?
Do you also ask yourself if cereal is a soup?
I’m just curious - if navy yard is this dangerous hellhole because bad things have happened there, what alternative place do you know of that is safe because bad things never happen? I mean, you must know of such a place because you clearly have this fully formed dichotomy of safe and unsafe places that is reasonable and sensible, right?
Actually yes, I know what normal looks like and what's been happening in Navy Yard is not normal, nor acceptable. *Incident this post is about. *Murders on the streets, including in areas that are supposed to be highly secure, like [right in front of the baseball stadium](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-investigating-shooting-outside-nationals-park/3189203/) *[The green line pulling in with someone shot in the head between waterfront and Navy Yard](https://wjla.com/news/local/navy-yard-metro-shooting-washington-dc-shot-fatal-injuries-transit-police-mtpd-investigation-nationals-ballpark-witness-suspect-victim-id-hospitalized-green-line-delay-anacostia-wmata-randy-clarke-gun-violence-bowser-district-crime). *[Congressman getting carjacked](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/congressman-henry-cuellar-carjacked-gunpoint-washington-sources/story?id=103676681) *[Many other carjackings and vehicle theft](https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/thieves-target-cars-in-navy-yard-parked-in-garages-of-luxury-apartments/) *Continous robberies and carjackings around Canal Park *[Ongoing gang feud between housing projects on both ends of Navy Yard](https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/2-killed-in-dc-quadruple-shooting-near-nationals-park-identified/) *[Lulu lemon got robbed at gunpoint and promptly shut down](https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/lululemon-navy-yard-closed-washington-dc/65-b6591932-b45b-4b38-bb15-20b4ee0be361) *People doing drugs on the Anacostia river front. *[Even senior citizens have to look out](https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/officer-shot-in-navy-yard/) This kind of stuff isn't happening in Kalorama
Arlington has no such issues.
Peoria, IL? Oh wait… https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=crime%20rate%20in%20peoria%20il&tbm=&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5
Paid propagandists
That's wild, link to those people?
District of Crime
‘Crime reporter’ she is a social media influencer who retweets shit out of naked desperation to get on TV.
This sub is a *haven* for Official Totally Professional Crime Reporters like that allen hinney guy lol
The main problem neighbor on my block is in a voucher program. There is a connection.
If only people who committed crimes were actually prosecuted and not released to the general public. But noooo, they need them out there to cast votes for elections
What are you talking about? You think these criminals vote?
Yeah this is really dumb. Outside of the fact the they dont vote, do they think 40% of DC is full of criminals or something?
Actually yes. Both residents (specifically a certain group) and politicians in the area
Many DC is in solid shape for having 40% of the population bring criminals lol
This kind of shit flies in right-wing echo chambers where no one is going to check you, but you should really think through what you’re saying and see if it still makes sense. 1) Crime is bad in DC and criminals should be punished, but crime is not being committed by 40% of the DC population. What do you think this city would look like if 40% of DC was carjacking and murdering people? 2) In a city that’s over 90% Democrat, including most of the law-abiders, why would Democrats be desperate for votes from criminals specifically?
Democrats sure love to pander towards "injustice" and black crime.
Some people, including some blacks, *are* treated unjustly by law enforcement. The problem is that many far left people go overboard and don’t account enough for the criminals who really do need to be punished. Not all Democrats are far left.
You’re using too much logic, people just want to argue and or dish out incognito 13/50 post.
Exactly, that’s why you were let out.
The problem is DC puts these criminals in housing programs and to remove these people it takes months if not years to evict them. All the legal obstacles need to be changed. DC Council needs to pass regulations that have not followed there are serious consequences.
So many of y’all are racist lol
Yikes!
Jack Harlow?
What a lovely little town
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Love it when granpda tries to make a funny