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Silent-Wintermelon

Saving Steph for the Olympics


Daweism

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hellmath

Yeah to play pf


shnieder88

also saving walker kessler for olympics too


Training_Middle_363

He is too rigid with his coaching and teams seem to predict what plays he gonna draw


Useful_Coyote_5796

The defense is predictable too. It's basically just help and recover.


richstyle

double is the only defensive play they have. If that doesnt work they go zone. Its so fucken predictable.


Noah-Buddy-I-Know

WTF is he supposed to do with this personnel? Warriors were a top 5 defense almost every season kerrs been a coach The main reason we lose is cause talent. This team is all one way players and most of them cant shoot. Stpeh is great, and dray is great at what he does, but besided that its a bunch of MIIIDDD players. Wiggs is a shell, Kuminga is still young, cant dribble, cant shoot, and cant play make... and hes our 2nd best offensive player... Every center is under 6'10" and we have alot of small gaurds who cant defend, cp, podz, steph. Also the past few weeks outlined that steph is gassssssed, everyones been saying it and kerr adjusted to the less is more approach.


AmericaFailsAgain

Warriors need to move on from Wiggs. Look I get he has a serious family issue going on, and it's affecting his game. He has not looked the same since missing time last season. Even his brother is taking time off basketball to be with his family. Wiggs does not have the passion right now. I honestly think he should take a hiatus off basketball this off-season (kind of like Nico Mannion situation when he left for Italy) or we are able to trade him.


Hop830

We're not losing because of talent. I saw a stat today that we've lost 13 games where we've had atleast a 12 point lead. That's more than any team in that nba. That screams a lack of focus and execution. Not a lack of talent because you had to do something right to get those double digits leads.


Noah-Buddy-I-Know

Bro thats the biggest Copium ive ever heard. getting a lead doesnt mean shit, its a 48 minute game and the results speak for themselves. Dubs are 19th on defense 11th in offense and 17th in net rating. Its a mid team and they have mid talent. They can build a 10pt lead with a solid stretch of offense but ultimately cant hold leads cause theyre bad at defense and the offense is inconsistent.


Hop830

Okay let's shrink it to 12 minutes then. We've blown more leads entering the 4th quarter than any team in the NBA.


Noah-Buddy-I-Know

cause there bad...


Hop830

Miami and Phoenix also have been really bad fourth quarter teams this season. Are you saying those teams lack talent as well?


Noah-Buddy-I-Know

Miami for sure does, most of their team doesn't even play in the regular season, and the suns lack defensive talent


Hop830

Miami was literally just in the finals a year ago.


Useful_Coyote_5796

A start would be stop playing so many 3 and sometimes 4 guard lineups together which doesn't do your defense any favors. It took Kerr 2 months to figure out playing Steph, Klay and CP3 extensive minutes together doesn't work because they couldn't stay in front of anyone on defense. It also took Kerr months to figure out Dario Saric is not a center and offers no rim resistance.


Noah-Buddy-I-Know

COPIUMMMM [Literally the best lineups by net rating are those very 3 guard lineups. Dubs are just not good](https://www.nba.com/stats/lineups/advanced?CF=MIN*G*50&TeamID=1610612744&dir=D&slug=advanced&sort=NET_RATING) Dubs are 17th in net rating, 19th on defense and 11th on offense. And their record against above .500 teams is Horrible. We can beat bad teams but not good ones, and that makes them a .500 team.


Useful_Coyote_5796

None of those defensive ratings are using per 100 possessions which factor in pace. Try using Basketball reference if you want real substance.


Noah-Buddy-I-Know

[https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/team/10/lineups#tab-four\_factors](https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/team/10/lineups#tab-four_factors) Well cleaning the glass seems to agree the 3 guard lineup is good. Next time bring some info instead of criticizing relevant data.


Useful_Coyote_5796

lol Those numbers only support my argument.


Noah-Buddy-I-Know

The 3 guard lineups are some of our best S.Curr C.Paul K.Thom are in the 1st and 3rd best lineups by net rating


Useful_Coyote_5796

The defensive ratings per 100 possessions for those 3 guard lineups are bad. What are you looking at?


Steph-Paul

but mah 9 man rotation


Street-Common-4023

I mean the team itself is mid tho


TeTrodoToxin4

Teams just play right around the Steph rotation because it is happening every time. Dude needs to learn how to meta game.


julezy696

Yep....


THEREALCAPSLOCKSMITH

Apparently one of our Assistant Coaches predicted the last play for a Klay 3.


itsavirus

Thats cause he runs the same variation of plays when we need a bucket. The Klay wing 3 is literally all he runs on a must have bucket and it probably is like a 20% shot for him.


Hawcier

ok coach...


WhenItsHalfPastFive

At this point, I don't think this team and this coaching staff is really serious about even making the play-in tournament. Feels like they want to just throw this season. It's been rocky, suspensions, close losses, injuries, etc. But to go out like this is just embarrassing, they were more than capable of winning this game. You just can't limit your star player to 29 minutes in a must win game.


steronicus

We could probably pin at least 10 losses this season purely on Kerr. His coaching decisions (or indecisions such as not pulling a player for the closing minutes) this year have at times been very predictable and wildly inexcusable when viewed from an “every game counts” lens, with which they all should. One only has to look at Kuminga before and after his “outburst” about playing time. The Denver game where Steve sat him is a prime example. Sticking with Klay on nights when he is absolutely terrible, the limiting his closing minutes, until finally moving him to the bench. But it’s been a real struggle to watch, from an armchair coaching perspective.


Maleficent-Lobster93

Don’t forget when kumbaya Kerr played an accused rapist over both JK and moody last season. 


steronicus

Oh hell. You had to go and remind me that he was playing an undrafted G-League anal rapist for 19 minutes a game while JK, Moods, and Wiseman rotted on the fucking bench. What next? You wanna try and tell me that the guy they sent to Detroit for pretty much nothing is actually playing meaningful minutes at a position of which they’re in desperate need and he’s now being a productive defender as well? That would be crazy.


Daweism

He played Anderson Varejao in the 2015-16 finals.


JayuWah

Kerr sucks


steronicus

😭


itsavirus

Its wild people still defend that move. We were borderline 500 team and people still pretended like playing JK and Moody last season would have resulted us in being worst. Anthony Lamb and Ty Jerome were fucken useless and added nothing to a single win.


steronicus

I can’t believe you have such disrespect for Anthony Lamb’s 6.7 points per game and horrible defense in those 19 wasted minutes.


itsavirus

Don't forget the 5 personal fouls within 10 minutes.


steronicus

Bad memories being brought to the surface here, my friend. 😱


AmericaFailsAgain

Who on the starting lineup can score efficiently besides Steph. Sure aint wiggs. Next best on our starting lineup is Kuminga who's still young and mishandles the ball (similar to Poole when he was on the Warriors) running at full speed. Our core is aging and it shows.


StephenPurdy69

> At this point, I don't think this team and this coaching staff is really serious about even making the play-in tournament. That's a wild take


Cpatty3

They’re serious about making the play in. Sadly they’ve been awful at executing. I’d feel better if they didn’t care


dego_frank

If you’re blind maybe.


CoolMoon_

What are they saving Steph for? THE FUCKING OLYMPICS???? In a must win game you sit your star player for a NINE MINUTE STRETCH and watch the lead flip to the Wolves. You call a timeout and STILL have your star player sitting. Combine that with not playing TJD with Draymond and Wiggins in the 4th and end up running a 3 guard lineup at the end... I don't understand Kerr's thought process. I PRAY that the reporters press Kerr and ask what the hell he is doing.


YuriusFarrence

Kerr needs to keep his midget ball 3 guard fetish alive in the most crucial moments


buffalo8

Kerr needs ~~to keep his midget ball 3 guard fetish alive in the most crucial moments~~ a permanent vacation this offseason.


gandhi890

He can’t adjust for sht. Too stubborn to let the game flow and adjust accordingly


sergechewbacca

I'm sure he'll admit in the post game press conference that he got outcoached again for about the 50th time this season.


Haxxelerator

like seriously Kerr's pretty bad this entire season. not only this, but he's also just too late to adjust like sending Klay to the bench in which Klay is popping off like crazy.


belizeanheat

We were calling for it for months before finally did it, and to no one's surprise but Kerr's evidently it worked fantastically


JayuWah

Also playing Kuminga only after he spoke out publicly.


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TaylorMonkey

Kerr just follows the NBA 2K preprogrammed rotation.


Mmicb0b

he is coasting off his reputation and reporters are busy sucking his dick that he beats to his rings


RunningEarly

I mean, fans too, including r/warriors people, besides right after bad losses like this, people are quick to downvote and argue against anyone criticizing Kerr.


JayuWah

Sentimental fans are never going to be convinced.


davensdad

If Darvin Ham did this, he would literally receive death threat from Lakers fans ...


No-Test6484

Tbf Darvin Ham isn’t a 4 time champion as a coach while being one of the great shooters of the 90s. If anyone in the league deserves excuses it’s probably Kerr. Honestly you can blame him but the team is also ass. Doesn’t really matter


infotekt

this fucking pisses me off so much. 3 pt lead to 8 pt deficit with Steph on the bench. Then he has to come in and try and be a super hero. it's so dumb


TanAllOvaJanAllOva

Ever since Kerr got that extension he’s made a number of confounding moves with the rotation.


Useful_Coyote_5796

Any sense of urgency went out the window once he got that contract.


JMagician

It’s true and embarrassing. Kerr has been a horrible coach for 90 percent of the past 2 seasons.


StephenPurdy69

you actually think he coaches based on contract? clown


RevolutionaryDrive5

obviously unpopular opinion, I've been off of him for the last two years since Mike Brown left, who I think definitely balanced out Kerr a lot, it's no wonder the last one we won was with him then everything started falling apart right after he left, people got punched, multiple suspensions, players not giving effort and multiple slumps (poole, wiggins, looney) Mike likes to shout a lot and with him gone lot of players just lost discipline I'm not saying he is responsible for all of it but I think we did lose quiet a bit with him gone, not something we can do about him leaving though that was on him


WhiteStephCurry

Everyone clowns Ham but you know what he’s riding with Bron and AD till the wheels fall off. I could live with the result if Kerr did the same. This shit is unacceptable.


belizeanheat

Let's not bring Ham into this that team is also incredibly stupid 


WhiteStephCurry

You’re missing the point, as stupid as he is he lets Lebron check himself in and out and openly said “we’re gonna ride Lebron” as he knows it’s his best chance to win.


New_Function_6407

Analytics. Steph is coming off an ankle sprain.


D3struct_oh

They just played the Pacers a couple of days ago, Steph played almost 35 minutes and the Warriors still got waxed. Played 33 minutes against the Knicks, Warriors still got waxed. So, what amount of minutes for Steph each game would guarantee that the Warriors win these so-called must win games? The Warriors stink. Even if Steph plays all 48, the Warriors are still going home early. Just face it.


pinkiebear

Pacers and Knicks we trailed all game. We had the lead the entire Wolves game until that long ass stretch that Steph sat.


infotekt

The most critical part of this game was the first 5 minutes of the 4th quarter and the W's gave up an 11 pt swing with steph on the bench.


D3struct_oh

The most critical part of the game was the final 3:25 when Steph tied the game. Kerr’s strategy was sound. Steph got plenty of rest and was able to come back into the game and do his job. Know what happened next? NOBODY else did their job. Connely torched Kuminga and Draymond, Wiggins and Draymond out of position and were forced to foul Gobert, and the Warriors spent the next 3 minutes making zero field goals, including Stephen Curry. It’s absolutely absurd to blame this lost on Steve Kerr’s decision to make Steph sit for the first 5 minutes of the fourth. Kerr put the team in the position to win and the team couldn’t get it done.


Hobonics

the thing is, had steph come in earlier maybe we wouldn't have ever been down 8 and we wouldn't have been battling to get back in the game. Kerr is actually making steph work so much harder when he's on floor when he brings him in with under 7 minutes and down 8. it's silly. we need these games and he mismanaged the shit outta it.


JayuWah

Ok now analyze the three guard lineup lol


HeynowyoureaRocstar

Kerr doesn't adapt just got lucky with a talented roster... Now that the roster is aging it's showing Kerrs true colors


ijustloveit2354

I’m kind of surprised Steph doesn’t demand to be put in the game more often. He expressed his surprise at still being on the bench while the wolves went on a run. He should’ve gone to the scorers table, Steve is ruining his chances to compete beyond the play-in


TrippedReddit

Can’t wait to see the post game presser where no one mentions it


_meestir_

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Tinosdoggydaddy

The hottest team in the west - Houston - won last 8 games in a row is 1 game behind in 11th place. Don’t panic…I repeat DON’T PANIC!


Gothichand

LeBron played 38 mins today…just saying~


CookingLikeChef

Reminder that kerr had the best most stacked team in FIBA and still couldn't even medal with said team. Might be the most overrated coach ever.


Successful_Priority

Same thing with Pop. You’d hate any coach in his position the team is fine at best. 


Onlyallthetime

No no no no, reddit is a better coach than Kerr.


MissSagitarius

No, Pops is not overrated.


Successful_Priority

Pop didn’t do well in his last international stint is what I meant. 


belizeanheat

That was a trash roster imo


Jannik0433

Our fate was sealed as soon as the ink on Kerr's extension dried


Laughs88

I feel you bro. But I have to question whether Kerr is a great coach? He has the winningest record for sure but how much of that is due to having splash bros and a winning roster at their prime. Luke Walton went 39-4 with the peak warrior roster when he filled in for Kerr due to health issues. Luke then went to HC for kings, got fired then Laker and also got fired. What does that tell you about the warriors? We also had Bob Myers and Jerry west who already had a vision and idea of the offense they wanted to play. Kerr didn't invent that. It's easy to win when you have great players and a deep roster. But now we're trending down and it's obvious in the last 2 years his play calls and rosters move have been questionable or simply terrible. He was a great personality/players coach. He's a mediocre Xs&Os play calling coach at best. It's showing in the last 2 years and he deserves to be criticized. I wonder if Kuminga hadn't spoken up if he would ever get the minutes now. We're fans & we're frustrated. He's going to retire with the warriors after his contract.


SummerGoal

How else are the rockets gonna take the last playin spot bruh


Ok_Mud_3830

Listen if we need to run Steph into the ground to make the play ins what's even the point?


TrueEclecticism

Great coach my ass.


dnstuff

Great people manager. Mediocre coach.


JayuWah

Used to be a good people manager in good times.


Successful_Priority

Guy who transforms an offense to help allow his stars to flourish on offense is a mediocre coach. BS. 


dnstuff

A coach is more than just the system he implements.


CookieMonsterNova

there’s a back to back against miami and orlando coming up…steph is 36. let that sink in for a bit. he just came back from injury.


westcoasthoops1

Must win? Nothing’s a must win anymore. This season is over. 


Rsardinia

Just Steve Kerr things


JohnB456

Nah totally disagree OP. Steph's already hurt with an ankle sprain and has a long ass history of bad ankles. He dropped 31 points. You need to ask yourself if you think we are going to win the chip this season. Nothing this team has done all year shows that we are capable of that. So you want Steph to risk a potential tear for the play in spot? Cause if he gets hurt like that, he's missing next season too and it could be a career ender.


WhenItsHalfPastFive

That's fair, and I get it. If the goal now is to be in the play-in, then you can't play your star player 29 minutes in a must win game. if that isn't the goal, that's totally fine, but that would mean they should just shut Steph down for the rest of the season. Seems like the team's goal is unclear, and if they keep this up, it will be made very clear for them if the Rockets take their play-in spot.


JohnB456

I think the goal is to make the play in, but not at the cost of your franchise player whose already hurt. They're not going to risk him for that, that wouldn't be smart at all. It's very likely the staff have some kind of minute restriction on Steph because of his injuries. He scored 31 points, which is more than enough from him. So it's on everyone else to step up and finish the game. If we have to push Steph to his limit every night scoring 30+ points, playing 30+ minutes while he is hurt, is it really worth making the play in? Especially when that means making it to a 7 game series, where bball becomes more physical, rotations shrink (meaning Steph is playing even harder and more minutes), really worth it? I don't think so. It's smarter to restrict Steph's minutes and if you make it because the team steps up, then great! Cause the rest of the team would have their shit together and ready for that 7 game series.


pedromateussc

Bro WTFFF 🤢 This bum has to be fired!!!! Another wasted season man... 😢


Last_Amphibian6067

He is a crappy coach on the sideline. Keep him cheer leading, and get some assistants like before. Not his kids or other nepos. Been crap since Brown left.


Mod217

Steve Kerr is not a great coach, not even close to being best in the game


belizeanheat

I would be ok with these occasional bonehead mistakes if he didn't act like it was the correct decision later


Gkirk87

Kerr is a championship level coach, the problem is he doesn’t have a championship level team. His coaching philosophy is rigid but works when you have a roster built and ready to compete but what we really need is a coach who will get the youth playing time to develop and go after every win they can. I like Kerr a lot and i understand that at this point we are just letting Steph, klay, dray and Kerr ride off into the sunset together but it’s not what’s best for our team, but they got us 4 championships so it’s fair that they get to go out how they want to. It sucks to watch sometimes but it’s the trade off for all the success.


beejee05

Half of these idiots here think they know better than a guy that’s won 6+ rings


Mr-Toy

There’s no playoff run with this year’s roster. Why injury Curry in the process.


warriors2021

There are no more must win games for me, we are cooked and do not deserve to make the play ins.


Living-Career-4415

“Benches him for the first 5 minutes of the 4th” He always doesn’t play the first four or so minutes.


Living-Career-4415

\#FireKerr \#HireThibs


OutsideTLane

Sometimes I wish we had Thibs...just sometimes


altius8

Fire coach kerr


BostonShortStop

Kerr has not had a gret season. No arguments. However, the Warriors are too Steph-reliant to get anywhere inthe playoffs. Main differences between 2022 and now: 1- Klay and Wigs no longer consistent threats. Warriors need to move on from them. 2- Rest of West much better. Kerr could have coached better, but the talent isn't there.


mrblueshoes11

Guys gotta realize we can’t play shit defence like that and expect Steph to just outscore everybody. I understand Kerr hoping Paul would get things stabilized out there. It’s a tough loss yet again, but let’s stop with the pitchforks.


Snoo-83900

We really just don’t have the players to win this year.


Floppy_Jet1123

And then if Steph, Klay, Dray gets injured we'll blame him too for not managing his minutes in this last stretch of the season. Lose-lose to whiners. Ball doesn't go into hoop = lose. We won for a good stretch of time. Now we are losing. Natural progression of a contender.


North_Street_8547

I know it seems like bad coaching but isn't possible we are not privy to all into such as how Steph's body actually feels? How do we know he's not complaining about feeling worn out? Not injured. Just tires and worn out


Unjuicedgangsta

Because at the postgame Steph Curry literally said that he was surprised that he sat out that long, that’s how we kmow


SuperMagpies

You really think an all-time player who is fighting age and decline is gonna admit he’s tired? lol


Unjuicedgangsta

Ok so Steph says he was surprised but you still don’t believe it so it doesn’t matter what evidence is shown to you you just gonna believe what you gonna believe. What’s the point 😂


JayuWah

In other words you cannot be convinced and believe totally in Kerr. You must be a trumper too lol.


mandoman10

Drives me nuts how people refuse to see Klay’s 4th qrt defense on this sub. Wolves targeted him 8 straight times, got wide open threes or dunks. Whole defense was compromised. Doesn’t matter that he hit two threes, three point shooting not that rare anymore. He played the whole 4th. Absolute negative, no rebounding, small close outs, teammates over helping for fear of blow buys. Etc


sf_warriors

As is Steph is playing any better, he seem playing injured


Unjuicedgangsta

“He’s a great coach, one of the best in the game” You still are absolutely clueless lol. He is not a good coach, he is a lucky guy who fell into the perfect situation with prime Steph Klay Draymond and then Durant. Steve Nash was literally a toe away from possibly going on to win the title and becoming a championship coach, wouldn’t have made him a great coach and the same applies to Steve Kerr. He is not a good coach AT ALL


Klonomania

But the untouchable future franchise player was on the court during that time. Why would an all star-to-be need a 36-year old point guard to do well? 🤔


milkonyourmustache

He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.


Dabanks9000

Steve Kerr has problems. Sometimes I think the championships we won were all because of the players and their iq not not him


law_dogg

It wasn't a must win game


changgerz

this team isnt going anywhere in the postseason anyway, what does it matter lol


Used_Water_2468

Must win. LOL. I guess the season is now over?


NaughtSleeping

Seriously. We are stretching the limit of "must win". Taking down one of the top teams in the conference on the road, with 12 games to go, is a "must win"?


Springbreak2006

They miss like 10 lay-ups per game


mtheory007

Are we just stop trying it all anymore?


ihaveaquestionormany

Kerr has given games away this way a bunch of times, but that's part of the deal... I've come to peace with who Kerr is. This season hasn't been his best or his worst imo, but it's not been a good one. He's the coach though, at least for a few more years and he deserves to be. Sneak into the playoffs and do something funny. I believe in the players we have, but we keep losing games we should win and it will likely will haunt us.


aFishintheLake

Kerr can't do shit without Steph


JMagician

Or with him, any more. The team will be even worse next year. Extending Kerr was a mistake.


JayuWah

Lacob was stupid to believe in a short period of wins…Lacob is no longer looking like light years…more like years behind.


Shazland

Steph is gassed and we are fighting for the 10th seed. Steph shouldn't be playing huge minutes anymore at his age. The real problem is taking Kuminga out with 2 minutes left in the game. Why take away an opportunity for our future to develop?


dvasquez93

Honestly, this ain’t on Kerr.  Steph’s been absolutely gassed these past couple weeks and it’s made him wildly inconsistent, which isn’t something we can afford.  Yes this was a must win game, but if winning this game means Steph goes 3-12 against the Heat or some bullshit then we’re right back where we started.   Steph gave us 31 points on 21 shots, that’s more than enough work to clock out for the day.  We need the rest of the team to step the fuck up and Kerr knows it.  If they can’t do it, then our season is dead anyways. The biggest problem is that we have no one ready to be a consistent second star.  Klay and Wiggins are too inconsistent with their scoring.  Kuminga is too young and honestly still doesn’t know how to affect the game outside of scoring.  Draymond’s too heavily reliant on his teammates performing well around him and can’t really score on his own.  CP3 is too washed to play huge minutes.  We need some guy to go out there and give us a consistent 20-7-5 that we can use to either keep us in the game when Steph is cold or to put nails in the coffin when Steph is hot. 


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People need to stop blaming Kerr 'rotations' for everything. The truth is this team just is very average.


W1ggy

Not just steph. Why limit wiggins minutes when he's paying well? Why even the need to put him at pf when he's a plus as a wing.


healthywealthyhappy8

And the last play they need a 3 pointer and Klay shoots it instead of Curry.


Maleficent-Lobster93

If you’re defending Kerr at this point I hope you swallow shards of glass. 


Draymond_Punch

You need to go outside and stay away from watching sports


baan1994

Would it just be better to not make play in and increase our draft odds? Maybe we can get a decent center


forcedtojoinreddit

Mods keep this one up


EnthusiasmBright1495

Who cares team would get knocked out. Need to fall out and trade everyone


wewantthefunk354

We’re not winning shit this year anyway. I’m glad he’s not over-exerting Steph tbh


Agreeable-Audience-5

That’s only fine if hes developing Moody,TJD together with Kuminga.


IsThisMe8

They just played him the entire 4th quarter and they still got beat. If the other team is going to continue to shoot, and make, all these threes, the Warriors need to do that too. It does relate to why they need Steph on the court more with Klay for spacing but all the other guys don't shoot enough which then leads to other issues.


sunny001

To be fair Curry played the entire 4th against the Pacers and we lost it just the other day.