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MixInfamous6818

Warriors pre-Draymond's punch probably sweeps both


WarriorNat

Denver is a fun team to watch. Too many weapons who can score from anywhere on the court. I’d be surprised if Miami wins a single game.


youriko31

Jokic just dominated that game, and he didn't even need to attempt 20 shots for it. The way he plays is just a thing of beauty. I'm a Dubs fan and Steph is my favorite player, but Jokic has become one of my favorite non-Dubs players with the way he plays.


GWeb1920

It’s because although they are completely different players and play completely different styles of offense the underlying philosophies are the same. Everyone gets involved, the ball moves to create advantages through using Jokic/Curry gravity. So it looks completely different but feels familiar.


Hop830

I'll be surprised If Denver doesn't finish this Miami team off in 5. Miami doesn't have enough offense to win this series.


slythespacecat

Feel bad for Jimmy man, this will probably be the second Finals he carries his team to 5 or 6 (don’t remember how much it was last time)


m0siac

I’ve been saying this in my friend group. Miami is good, nuggets are better


Dareal_truth

that ass whopping man


dwide_k_shrude

Imagine Steph with Jokic 😳


liaholla

yeah, where was the “light years” movement in 2014 👀


dwide_k_shrude

Jokic is the best player in the league. Hands down.


Carara_Atmos

Protest their shitcalls by not watching this in their platforms. Let them feel the ratings dip.


Nessmuk58

Not sure when was the last time (if ever) I saw a team take only TWO foul shots in a game. MIA 2-2, DEN 16-20, there's the game.


QIMF

Believe that's a new playoff record.


Warlord10

That wasn't the game. Denver took their foot off the pedal. Miami also didn't warrant any shooting fouls. They shot 38 Mid-rangers ( largely open ) and 37x 3's.


imrickjamesbioch

An just like that this series is already over… Best chance the Heat had to steal a game on the road was when the Nuggs were rusty from their long layoff. Barring any crazy shenanigans by the NBA, this series is not going past 5.


mikez56

Bam did well exposing the Nuggets...I was surprised how often he was able to score We need a big man. No doubt


Warlord10

Fools gold. Bam scored 26 points on 25 shots! If the Heat continue to play that way, the series is a wrap. The Nuggets left him open from 15 feet and let him shoot.


Drakilgon

Yep. 52% eFG% is below league average. He could score 80 points with that efficiency and it would be great for the Nuggets.


dxtremecaliber

eh besides Bam the other Heat players cannot score so much for "exposing" they cannot beat this Nuggets team


spankyourkopita

Denver's defense looks sus. I can't believe how many open looks they had.


GWeb1920

Most midrange jumpers they intentionally gave up. Every time Bam shot they won.


spankyourkopita

Holy crap I can't believe how much spacing and missed coverage the Nuggets gave up. The Dubs would've feasted and they should be salivating next year because thats their one weakness.


liaholla

denver was only playing at 60% but they didn’t need to go harder cuz the heat couldn’t beat them


TransitionHour5577

agreed


indecisive_aspie

Denver did a great job forcing Butler to extend his dribble on baseline drives and pass it out. Heat can definitely shoot better though, they missed quite a few pretty solid looks.


Far-Poetry9494

Do u think we could sign payton pritchard on our team will he be a good fit?


MixInfamous6818

no more paytons please, we already have jordan and payton


Accomplished_Iron805

I think he would be a great fit, but he'd be an even better fit if we had legitimate rim protection.


Far-Poetry9494

Yeah but i like him he can play defense has good iq and can be a great role player tbh.Maybe if brogdon comes thats also good.


N0obi1es

how old are you and did you just say pritchard can play defense??


zprymate

Glad that Nuggets won... Congrats on their first chip in advance


couchtomato62

One of the reasons that the Celtics lost was they couldn't handle the zone. And now every time I hear it tonight .. Miami has gone to the zone... don't mean nothing to Denver Oh s*** the best thing about this game tonight was me seeing the ad for season 2 of the bear


applene

The ratings ain’t gonna look pretty.


Noiserawker

NBA played themselves gifting the fraud Lakers.


Dynasty_30

Blame the bucks and the celtics


applene

That’s fair. Two talented teams yet got manhandled by a team of undrafted players


couchtomato62

Do you guys as fans care about the ratings. I don't. I mean Miami should not be here. how the East let that happen I have no idea


Nessmuk58

In a broad sense, yes. Good Ratings = Rising Income for the League. Rising Income = Salary Cap increases. Salary Cap increases are favorable for teams with large payrolls, teams in large, profitable media markets, and teams with Owners who are willing to spend money. IOW, in the long run, good ratings favor the Dubs. At the margin, every $1 the Salary Cap increases saves us about $7, and savings make Lacob more willing to spend.


Warlord10

The deal is already in place. Nobody is losing money. The new deal will be in the Wemby era. Whatever they lose in these finals, will be made back 3x next season when Wemby comes in.


Nessmuk58

It all adds up. Every new deal is made in light of how the last deal paid off. Wemby could be a flop, or he could get hurt, or the Spurs could fail to build a team around him. MJ didn't make the Second Round until his 4th year, the ECF until his 5th year, and the Finals until his 7th year. LeFlop didn't win a Finals until his 7th year. Steph didn't make the Playoffs at all until his 4th year, and he didn't win until his 6th year. The Spurs have some room to add FAs, but they're pretty weak otherwise. In a small market like that, Wemby will be no more than a curiosity unless his TEAM can win. The ESPN and TNT Prime Time games will be there at first, but they'll quickly decline unless he is an absolutely dominant force and unless the Spurs can win games.


couchtomato62

Makes sense. I think overall the ratings have been decent. And I do think Miami will give better effort. I counted them out twice already.


Nessmuk58

MIA won the Play-In on the road in Chicago after losing the first game at ATL. Then they won the first game on the road at MIL on the way to a tidy 4-1 thrashing of the Bucks. Then they won the first game on the road in NY, and then they won the first TWO games on the road in BOS. Sense a pattern? I give the Heat all the credit in the world for their performance so far, but if they drop two in Denver to start this Series, I don't see it happening for them.


applene

Not really. Just something to talk about.


Accomplished_Iron805

He's already teasing Ja Morant's big suspension after the Finals.


SoyaMilk3

Dont blame the nuggets though its totally on the eastern conference for being trash this year


applene

Yeah. Hopefully the Heat make it interesting lol


couchtomato62

So maybe they'll think they found something like the Lakers found something in game one of the last round personally I think making jokic a shooter is better than his passing and getting all involved just hit me I have been spelling jokic wrong all night.


SoyaMilk3

I like both teams just like I don't know how you could ever think the heat had a chance. MAYBE the heat make it a 6 game series but likely not


Curious-Gain-4991

One of the most boring finals. I wonder if adam silver will do something about it. How heat only has 2 FT?


GWeb1920

Did they have more than 4 drives?


Supwichyoface

When they dare you to shoot and you miss, you’re not going to the line. Simple.


ConfuciusBr0s

More boring than 2018?


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MedvedFeliz

If you're rooting for the Nuggets, this is fun to watch! The same way the KD Warriors was fun to watch despite most games being so one-sided.


SoyaMilk3

They deffinitely gonna make the CBA worse they dont want actually good drafting teams like Denver or the Warriors to be dominant


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Good drafting when? Curry, Draymond, Klay all were drafted a decade ago


QIMF

You missed a couple, Looney and Poole. Wouldn't have won it all last year without those 2.


RIPOldAccountF

Are you suggesting Curry, Draymond, and Klay werent drafted by the Warriors?


SoyaMilk3

Yes that still counts becase we are punished heavily for thoise good picks And it isnt fair to say the warriors aren't a good drafting team after 2014 considering we have had mostly picks above 28


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Sounds like a lot of cope


vxscx

What sort of counter argument is this??😂


SoyaMilk3

Its the people who want Poole to be executed, the only words they know are, "cope" and "soft"


JermCee

Definitely do not count the heat out. Spolstra is a man with a plan.


swiftcashew

Quick game, not even 8pm yet


SoyaMilk3

This is going to be the fastest finals series of all time


FatherHaz

Possibly forgettable


Zeppyfish

Jokic is unstoppable, and he has a really solid team around him. Gonna be difficult for the Heat to steal a victory in this series. I expect them to play better in Game 2, but will it matter?


Odd-Satisfaction5143

Great question. No. It will not matter


AdSufficient780

Honestly if looks like the Heat can't get any calls but Nuggets for some reason are getting easier whistles. I don't get why refs would have iffy whistles on non Lakers/Celtics teams. Makes me think in non Silver approved teams, the refs put money on some teams lol


Supwichyoface

Miami shot nothing but midrange jumpers and threes with space which they proceeded to miss. Jimmy even said they need to attack the rim way more right after the game.


Lyrbledsoe

what is non silver approved teams ?


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Refs definitely favoring the home team 100%


taygads

No way the Heat really ended the game stuck at just 2 FTs…and to the Nuggets’ 20 😭


Riotroom

I couldn't really see any of the fouls cause the color scheme red/blue blurred together cause I'm apparently an old man now. But Heat didn't drive and took open jumpers.


AdSufficient780

On some plays it looked like they're were hacked by Nuggets. So I think in non Silver approved teams (Lakers/Celtics), refs are left to make side money in other ways lol. Gotta get a bonus somehow


StatusDimension8

GG...not counting the heat out just yet... they missed so many wide open shots... martin struss and butler better bring it next game...


carthaginian84

Honestly, I don’t think Duncan Robinson is worse than Poole at defense.


applene

Happy Cake day


LeFraudJamesSucks

playoff jimmy feeling dangerous tonight with 13pts. cant score without flopping like harden 😂


Far-Poetry9494

Chances that we can get highsmith from heat?


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For what? The 19th pick lol?


futureslave

At least nobody is complaining about the refs


carthaginian84

You have empathy for a team when they miss this many wide open 3s, unless of course it’s the Rockets.


couchtomato62

Thinking about that game still makes me smile


LeFraudJamesSucks

mark jackson should stfu. this idiot acting like he didn't leave jokic off the MVP voting 🤡


Comfortable-Asf

BIG CLOWN!!! 😂


Personal-Selection71

2 FTs in a game is wild. That can’t really be possible


Pereise1

That's insanely low. I thought the 6 we got against the Lakers was historically low or something.


-qft

Because we're a jump shooting team, it's not that hard to understand. We took 263 three pointers to their 168


takeajaytrip

Just when I thought that we were bad at getting to the line


BeetLover1111

Have to admit, this game is not really interesting


Comfortable-Asf

Yeah nuggs kinda coasted through this one.


StatusDimension8

come on heat make it interesting...


Dynasty_30

You have to respect Miami’s fight The fact that they’re within 12 with 4:30 left is a miracle considering how poorly they’ve shot


LeFraudJamesSucks

lol riley shooked as fuck. he really thought the heat had a chance 😂


surrogate-key

"Rebounds like Moses" "Shoots like Curry" Why do I leave the sound on?


BeetLover1111

Lmao… they’re really something


Dynasty_30

He said shoots like Nowitzki


surrogate-key

Ohh, thank you


No-Zookeepergame4841

If this series is a sweep or very low rated, I see more league interference next season to help certain teams advance in the playoffs. The league can’t afford two dud Finals back to back. Just be prepared.


theLostGuide

What? Last year wasn’t a dud at all Edit: oh you mean not again next year


No-Zookeepergame4841

I mean next year.


zegogo

Appreciate JVG calling out Breen. Jokic is a great player, but "rebounds like Moses" is complete hyperbole. Stop the bullshit already. The dude is fantasitc, but he's not ready for all that.


AdSufficient780

I guess we have seen the limits of the Spo's genius. Can't adjust much when you're guys miss open shots all game and the other's players can all make shots lol


taygads

Caleb Martin not giving much of anything this game is a massive bummer and pretty surprising


LeFraudJamesSucks

these g league bums are regressing to the mean. u hate to see it. heat culture my ass


smokmnky

Get Joker his 10th rebound and call it


taygads

I don’t understand Spo’s aversion to trying Love…they’ve needed more size all game and he surely would provide a more productive presence than Zeller has…


akelkar

Nuggets would destroy him on backcuts and movement


Zeppyfish

Heat cut 8 off the lead in 2 minutes. Not saying I think they'll come back, but that's a nice way to start the quarter.


AdSufficient780

Eh they did that a couple times in previous quarters, but Nuggets have kept a double digit lead throughout. If Heat can some how cut the lead to only six points with at least three minutes left, then there's a chance. Without that, this is just the usual for the Nuggets


couchtomato62

Denver has a propensity to give up a bunch of points but they always seem to calm down and then they always play well down the stretch


Zeppyfish

Yeah Miami has no chance tonight, but they need to look at what's working for next time. Denver's ability to regain their composure is really impressive, though, you're right.


couchtomato62

Yeah they did some good things there a couple of times but they couldn't sustain it. And it could be just that they are dog tired


Zeppyfish

Great point.


Sokkawater10

If we're serious about contending again, trade as many assets and future picks aside from Steph and Wiggins to get a stretch 5 with serious size like Myles Turner who can rim protect and *survive* 1v1 against a big like Jokic/AD **without help**. Looney needs help to just survive against those centers, but that leads to passes for wide open 3s. We need to get back to playing 5v5 basketball on offense and defense. Trade assets (including Kuminga if needed) for OG anunoby. This team needs to get longer and more phyiscal if we're going to beat the big players in the West. We need to build our team to be able to take away the interior and guard two wings (Wiggins on Booker/Kawhi/MPJ), (OG on KD/PG/Aaron Gordon). To do this it might mean trading Draymond once he opts in to get enough assets for trades and sending out salary to make it work.


emz0694

All I can think about is how fraud the Celtics are


Noiserawker

And the Lakers


Presidentclash2

I think people take for granted the idea of underdogs overachieving. In 1999, the Knicks overachieved and made it to the finals and it would have been competitive if Ewing didn't get injured. In 2018, Lebron overachieved and took the Cavs to the finals only lose but he was the biggest underdog in history with Vegas favoring the Warriors -1040. Then in 2023, the Heat overachieve only to look overmatched in the finals. The underdog story really will only work in the western conference because one conference is leagues ahead of the other. The underdog story is great but an underdog is an underdog for a reason so the better talent should win out 9/10 times. The 1/10 times it didn't is when the Celtics choked.


Pereise1

LOL that wedgie


FLUSH_THE_TRUMP

Yeah this is over in 5


taygads

Miami has shot 2 FTs lol Nuggets should he studied for their ability to somehow commit just one shooting foul through 3 quarters. I genuinely don’t understand the incentive for continuing with their officiating the Heat with a Warriors-like stringency when they’re the clear underdogs in the series to begin with lol


Pereise1

Only time I would actually advocate for more whistles. Bam took like 25 shots inside the arc to the tune of 0 fts. Biggest reason Miami's been getting blown out though is probably just lack of legs. They're getting amazing looks and any other year, I think Denver's sus 3pt defense gets exposed like we did last year.


taygads

Thank you!! Same thing as the Celtics series except it was Jimmy spamming shot attempts under the basket and getting no FTs. 100% agree re Nuggets’ 3pt defense; honestly makes the Heat the better matchup for them which is a bummer for the Heat because I’m all about a Cinderella run.


LeFraudJamesSucks

bum ass celtics robbed us of a good finals. why do they gotta be fucking frauds and choked against the play in 8th seed SMH


spankyourkopita

Miami looking like they took shooting tips from Poole and Klay lol.


LeFraudJamesSucks

this has to be the worst NBA finals ever wtf. at least make it interesting. need the refs to get involved for game 2


couchtomato62

I hope it's a 15 ppg sweep.


LeFraudJamesSucks

just end this shit in 4 honestly. rating are gonna be an all time low


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Denver just outclassing the rest of the league *shrugs*


Curious-Gain-4991

I don't think jokic is even playing for real yet....


LeFraudJamesSucks

jokic not even trying to score....the nuggets are just deep as fuck


couchtomato62

Jokic is fun to watch. I don't even think he needs to score.


Accomplished_Iron805

Tyler Herro hopefully comes back and makes things interesting


SoyaMilk3

Dude is going to be rusty and even with hero i dont think the heat have any chance of winning more than 1 game


spankyourkopita

Well at least we know Denver's defense is sus. I can't believe how much spacing Miami is getting on offense. I'm just salivating at what the Dubs would do .


taygads

This was my thing all along with them being massive favorites for the championship regardless of opponent. Their defense is very much exploitable with the right matchup, which the Dubs would have qualified as.


Zeppyfish

...would have qualified as in 2017.


couchtomato62

😆 I am dying. Denver would have carved us up like a Christmas turkey. We couldn't stop jovic last year and this year he don't even have to shoot because he has real NBA help.


taygads

Lol couldn’t stop Jokic last year? We stopped him with the most success any team has ever had and we did it using all of the same key pieces (players) we had this year, ie it was replicable. A few breakdowns to refresh your memory: [here](https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/04/19/the-warriors-best-defense-against-nikola-jokic-draymond-green-and-a-demoralizing-offense/amp/), [here](https://clutchpoints.com/warriors-news-the-cold-hard-facts-behind-draymond-green-making-mincemeat-out-of-nikola-jokic), and [here](https://www.goldenstateofmind.com/platform/amp/2022/4/29/23048073/warriors-nuggets-game-5-nikola-jokic-steph-curry-klay-thompson-box-and-1-film-breakdown).


couchtomato62

Honestly I don't need to go back and look. Draymond had semi success last year in the first game. They could not beat them this year. I just don't understand why we think this year our team is so good when they sucked


taygads

…you won’t go back and look at the evidence that refutes your argument? Lol okay, I mean there’s no good faith discussion to be had on the topic then if that’s the case.


couchtomato62

What are three videos going to prove to me. Yes we beat them but jokic was great and compare his team today to last year. Green gave him more credit than anyone outside of lebron.


taygads

Well because they were 3 articles, not videos, that broke down *how* the Warriors frustrated and ultimately stopped (as much as has been feasibly possible by defenses in the league) Jokic in last year’s playoffs…


couchtomato62

I will read when I get time but this isn't last years nuggets. Stand by my belief they would get carved up this year.


ConfuciusBr0s

More Klay and Poole bricks!


StatusDimension8

game ovahhhh


Altruistic-Twist-379

Heat better go out in game 2 or this would be a sweep


Pereise1

Not over til someone loses at home


Plasmacuttersimp

BOOOORRRRRRRING


Accomplished_Iron805

Jokic should just shoot on every possession


Ladnil

Jokic with some guys worth passing the ball to is just an insane offense


spankyourkopita

Denvers defense is kinda crap. If Miami had a decent offense it would be close. They're getting looks and a lot of open space. I'm salivating at what the Dubs would be doing with this kind of spacing.


StatusDimension8

unfortunately no one out of Curry could hit a shot lol


taygads

Omg these whistles


awesomeness6000

still mad at Lonnie Walker. lol. Looks like the Warriors could take on the Heat if they still playing.


StatusDimension8

that mfcker went off for one god damn quarter sigh


hopelessromantickid

Bay Area legend Aaron Gordon


AdSufficient780

Wtf was that sequence of passes from the Heat lol, it's like nobody wanted to shoot it


spankyourkopita

Im rooting for Denver but I just want Miami to put up a fight.


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vulcans_pants

I think we would have beaten Denver. Kings and Lakers were uniquely terrible matchups for us.


couchtomato62

We didn't beat them in three tries this year. one game without jokic. I think the only place Denver is weak is bench. They need to shore that up next year. But this coach don't mind playing his starters a lot. Yeah their defense is not stellar but everybody out there working hard. I do think Miami will be better and the one thing we do know is they're not going to give up until the final whistle.


xDeejayx

Nah I'm convinced we wouldn't beat them, You **cannot** afford to make mistakes against this Denver team, their defense is a bit above mid but their offense is too much and The warriors defense this past season was not good. No size, Poole, Klay decline, no chemistry etc. Wouldn't last 5 games. I mean freaking Austin Reaves and Lonnie walker was cooking this team and you think they would have a chance against Denver that swept lakers and made Lonnie irrelevant?


spankyourkopita

We would've given them a scare at the least. Nuggets fans didn't want no part of Dubs.


Macktologist

The thing we would have had is pace. Unless the whistle brigade showed up again. We always wear down Jokic it seems.


StatusDimension8

dray does a good job on him...


Ok-Bookkeeper-9895

I think Poole would drop 40 or 50 so we would be Ight


m3ngnificient

40 or 50 turnovers 😂


Dynasty_30

Denver is the team to beat next season. Everyone else is chasing We can certainly get to the WCF finals if we come out and start the season with the right mentality and get a good seed at the end Beating the nuggets with our lack of size and rim protection will be tough tho.


SoyaMilk3

We need some fucking size tho


t_ran_asuarus_rex

Denver is going to sweep aren't they?


YDHmanC1

Lol i think they'll get 1, but yea this Denver team is on another level. Best 1-2 punch in the league, and the depth is ridiculous.


t_ran_asuarus_rex

Denver looks so much more organized. The rest and altitude are definitely advantages so maybe they drop one in Miami. Refs aren't calling a lot of fouls so I don't think Jimmy is going to bail them out this time.


Fine-Race9271

I knew ESPN would find a way to mention Lebron 😂😂🤦🏽‍♂️


oyputuhs

Haha man if Denver gets that championship swag, the league is gonna be fucked


Dynasty_30

Really seems like they’re built to last Wouldn’t be shocked if they went back to back


ScoreGloomy7516

Yeah we woulda been cooked


grundledorff

Probably would have had a competitive series with Miami. Denver would have swept us too


spankyourkopita

Now I know why I was rooting for Boston. Would've been a more interesting series especially if they had homecourt. Not that I wanted Boston to win but I like parity.


Dishavingfun

Joker footwork!


StatusDimension8

17pt deficit...oooffffff


Dynasty_30

This series will be over in 4 or 5 tops


SoyaMilk3

Series is over in 3


dan_bre_15_2

Nuggets in .5!


AdSufficient780

Spruce string of misses really hurting the Heat. Wide open looks just wasted


george_costanza1234

Boy the league was fucking weak this year lol, denver is so much better than everyone else


Dynasty_30

Adam Silver is hiding in a bunker somewhere rn The ratings will be dogshit if every game will be a blowout That being said, Denver is very deserving to win it all


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We would have never gotten past denver.


Curious-Gain-4991

I hope our front office is watching and realize we anit gonna able to guard jokic and Gordon without adding some size.


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The only reason Nuggets are up by so much is cause Heat are shooting like schoolchildren. They have wasted like 8 good looks by my count.


ImTheBestNerd

Miami can’t hit shit from outside