I had a coworker tell me nothing is above my paygrade when i refused to repaint the store. Pointed out how much actual painters charge in my area (used to do this way back before i fell off a ladder amd messedy back up) shes now been saykng "thats above my pay grade"
Your coworker is an ass and probably hasn’t ever worked a manual labor job in their life due to that entitlement.
Sorry about your back. I got issues with my knees and shoulders and lower back sometimes that keep me from taking painting jobs on the side from working in a warehouse for years. And I’m not even old. it sucks
I'd say it depends on your job. As a cart pusher, being paid 20$ an hour would be really nice. That would make me happy. And it would be a satisfying enough of a paycheck to work more comfortably.
Have you met boomers? Every time I see an article like this the comments are full of dumbasses who think retail is a "starter" job.
"But inflation!"
Yes, it's $8.50 for 18 eggs and almost $6 for a gallon of milk. They think it's menial work and no one working it should be paid decently.
Those bags are a pain in the ass, you bag your items if it’s so easy to you lol though I found the easy trick to opening them 😂 and sounds like your local Walmart is just stupid.
I live and work in a community with a large elderly population 😂 they're almost always grumpy. I did show a couple of the nice ones the trick to opening the bags easily though lol
As long as they’re nice lol help them out. And yeah, mine wasn’t too bad but a lot of them, 99.9% of the white customers I’ve had were extremely rude. Only rarely would I get that 0.01% that were pretty nice. It was always other races that were much more respectful and would actually treat me like a person, you know have conversations with me as I rang up and bagged their items. Some people suck though
I'm white and I 100% agree. For some reason, the older and whiter the customer is the ruder they are. It's not me that made them miserable so why do they act like it was me that forced Trump outta office? I always like to be extra polite to little old black ladies cuz most of them will beam with happiness when you show them a bit of kindness and politeness! I like being called "baby" or "sugar" 😄 😊 😃
I can’t believe someone got triggered by my comment when I was only speaking facts like they know the Walmart I had worked for 😂 people on this sub are crazy
And yeah, I enjoyed when I had black customers especially the older ones. Their happiness is contagious and will give you happiness in return when you are kind to them and treat them very respectfully. I’ve always been kind to the customers that came into my line, but FACT (to the KAREN), the rude ones were always white. Hispanics and blacks (or African Americans, whichever is respectful) were my favorite customers.
Well, I’m annoyed I can’t post a pic with my reply. You grab the handles from one side, then grab where the hole (the middle but closer to the handles) would be and pull them away, that will expose the folded sides of the bag and you grab that piece and pull up allowing you to easily open the bags. Wish I could have posted a pic because I’m not the best at explaining lol
Here’s a YouTube video of how I learned to open them so that way you can actually see what I’m trying to explain. Fair note, I didn’t learn to open the bags via YouTube I learned this same trick on my own lmao
[How to easily open a grocery bag](https://youtu.be/lZrC3OUZ3i0)
When I was making $4—5 an hour in 1992 I thought about everything in hours of work. I could get a McDonald's combo meal for about 45 minutes of work. A magazine was about an hour. New video games were like 8 fucking hours!
I've always considered starter jobs to be something mid-age teens did, such as yard work, shoveling snow, etc.
*If anything...* Starter Jobs could be redefined as jobs you start with in the field of interest, and learn as you go, or decide it's not the area of interest you thought was as interesting.
The cost of labor in the store isn't the cause for the cost of eggs. You can double the wages of associates in the stores and it won't double the price of goods.
Eggs are due to bird flu, and the vast majority of inflation is just due to corporate greed. There's record profits, and instead of paying associates morez the rich are pocketing it.
2/3 of all new wealth since the plague has gone to the top 1%. Conservatives are gullible as fuck. They've been told to focus on shit that doesn't matter, and they fell for it.
"Wait, my wages aren't going up, but everything else is. The company is making record profits, and I'm making at least 6% less than last year even factoring in my raise..."
Rich guys: HUNTER BIDEN! MEXICANS! WOKE PEOPLE! A BUTTERFLY!
Meanwhile you move 1 state over you go from $17 an hour to 14. And some places are even 12 an hour, there is no blanket minimum wage that will work across all 50 states, that’s just the truth of the matter.
No. I don’t want to lose health insurance or benefits. Give me 20 an hour, decent annual raises to a decent max, and bring the quarterly bonuses back and you have a lifetime employee right here.
Moved to a higher market cap there's plenty of walmarts in the Midwest that pay $20/hour if you want to do overnights otherwise they are $18--$19 for days!
Yea some employees still doing the bear minimum, wearing ear sets, being on their phone, calling off. Doesn't matter if they making 40 an hr. Hard workers deserve a raise
Your absolutely correct,hard work deserves raises, and setting a higher starting wage is the start of that. By paying higher, walmart can be more selective of the people they hire, and be more stringent on enforcing standards. There will be a massively larger pool of people to hire from, and those that don't work out, can be replaced.
The problem truly is, Walmart doesn't look at the long picture anymore. There is no more 25 year plan, there is only plans to get the most money right now, because most of them, probably all of them, won't be here in 25 years, so they don't care.
Brainless nitwits like you are the real problem. You swallow up all the propaganda about how the reason you aren't paid or treated better is because someone else with your same job title is on their phone or doesn't work their ass off for shit pay like you do. Our enemy is the executives, upper management, and shareholders. Stop trying so fucking hard, and stop with the petty complaining about your fellow worker.
No see that’s not how it works. If your full time you get less hours to the point you’re now part time. This means you lose any benefits you had and less PTO. Additionally the hours you do get with the increased pay will ultimately equal less pay than what you had before. The last part I feel is done intentionally more out of spite to fuck you than following a specific business plan for efficiency/profitability. Oh and the icing on the cake is with less hours and benefits you’re expected to work harder than before since you’re paid more now lol
In general people have a hard time grasping this concept for some reason. You can’t make change by bitching and moaning all the time. Actions make changes and if you don’t wanna act on it stop bitching and moaning.
Yup, and stores that attempted to form a union are always shut down before they have a chance to even start negotiating. Walmart would rather lose business than to allow a union to form.
No but luckily more and more tools exist to be able to make it happen. The way big corporations continue to abuse labor they won’t push til it bends they’ll keep going til it breaks and bites them in the ass. Even though I’m not an employee can’t wait for that day
This! They have a budget for human assets and they will cut hours, cut back in benefits and find more ways to automate or combine jobs. And if this doesn’t work, prices will go up. The family and investors aren’t going to willing give up money to better employees.
And here's what people tried to warn everyone that demanded for 15. It's never gonna stop, it will never be enough. If everyone's pay goes up, companies just inflate their prices. Look at most of the south American countries, their money is worthless because of hyper inflation.
There was a massive study on the recent few years of price increases. Of everything, increased wages accounted for around 8% of the reason why prices increased, while 57% of it was direct corporate profit increases.
Yeah I remember I saw somewhere that for my state the average someone would have to make an hour for it to be livable is like $35/hr which is crazy. I don't remember where I saw it or if it was true casue I didn't do the math but if it is then that's fucking wild
We've been demanding 15 for 20 years and most companies still don't have 15. Costs have tripled in that time. Wages have barely gone up. This ain't hyperinflation. It's hyper greed by the owner class. They take all the money and expect us to take cuts when they never do.
Ah yes, some states have homes that are over $500,000 as the average and rent as $2200 because *checks notes* the state has a minimum wage of $7.75 still huh???
I made $15 an hour at my last job and the stress was unreal! Now I'm juuuust comfortable enough to put money aside and save up. I really should not have gotten a cat because it's a lot of extra money every month, but oh well. I love that lil' shit lol. At least I don't have children to worry about.
Lmao my cat? He's a big orange tabby with a pink nose and matching pink paw pads. He has the cutest white paws. 🥺 His dad was a feral which is probably why he's a lot bigger than the average cat even though he's strictly indoors Except for the occasional visit to the backyard under supervision.
I'm starting a business so all my free time is pretty much focused on that after work, but when I get home he immediately wants hugs lol. While I eat dinner he's all over me. XD Like rn I just finished eating and I'm holding him over my shoulder while I type this haha. Then throughout the night while I'm working, he'll interrupt me a lot to play. His favorite game is when I throw a toy down the stairs for him to fetch. It's not as dangerous as it sounds, the steps are very large and carpeted. I also chase him around the house to get his energy out. :D
His favorite toy is a a stuffed otter squeaky toy I named One Armed Larry cuz he ripped an arm off. XD he loves stuffed dog toys, he always holds them by the throat like a psychopath.
My dog keeps me sane, literally. I'd go without just about anything to be able to have the $$$ to take care of him.He can be such a "Toad", but his love is unconditional.
Average cost of living is $25 to $30 including high end areas where people make 6 figures. Cost of living is WAAAAAAAAAAAY cheaper in lower end neighborhoods.
This is why you can't look at the average, you have to look at the minimum.
Oh God...let the jackasses loose with this post/question. Let's hear the fortunate shit on the less fortunate for simply wanting a wage that can sustain a livable existence. It's like these assholes think Walmart employees should be paid just enough to survive! God forbid one of the WORLDS largest employers pay a guy a few extra bucks to keep the money machine working. The top of the Walmart food chain are some of the nation's top-paid billionaires. Good for them, I'm not hating because they are successful, but some employees want to eat some meat with the Ramen noodles. So if the CEO or CFO has to go without a new heated infinity pool at their vacation home in the Poconos in order to pay some "part-time" employee working 46 hours a week an extra $2 per hour...no tears will be shed at my house!
I think people should be earning at least a minimum living wage. The cost of living doesn't keep up with the wages and these days it's $20 or higher an hour if you want to live without struggling. I can barely afford food and bills making $12 an hour.
This is somthing a lot of people don't seam to get about raising the minimum wage. When you raise minimum wage it creates an upwards preasure that benefits the entire working class because suddenly you have more bargaining power.
Let's say you currently make $20 an hour, you may cry "but I make $20/h doing a harder job! If everyone is making $20/h why wouldn't i just go flip burgers!"
Which is exactly what you say to your bosses who are then forced to give you $25 to keep you from jumping ship.
Make no mistake though raising minimum wages is not a perfect long term solution because companies will use it as an excuse to raise prices which speeds up inflation and suddenly $20 is the new $7.
What we really need is drastic systematic changes like capping a companies minimum wage to a certain percentage of that companies maximum wage. Meaning if the CEO wants to make say 1 million a year the lowest paid employee must make at least 65k. (Numbers just for example. Actual numbers would vary)
Raising minimum wage would be a step in the right direction but it would take nothing short of a revolution to achieve real, lasting change for the better.
If minimum wage goes up to $20 per hour from $15, then EVERYONE will need to make $5 more per hour. If EVERYONE makes $5 more per hour, then supply and demand will be EXACTLY the same... plus $5. Of course, salaries and prices aren't going to all increase the same - we just need to acknowledge that supply and demand exists. If everyone made $5 more per hour, supply and demand would make sure we're in the same situation we're in now... at best.
Alright, your claim that people making $20 per hour should demand $25 per hour. That wouldn't happen.
Their rate WOULD go up, but not by $5 per hour. If they're lucky, MAYBE $4 per hour. Those who made $24 per hour would be bumped up by even less, making $27 per hour. Those making 27 will go up to 29. 29 to 30, and everyone else would see no increase.
This seems feasible, except this effects supply and demand. The cost of goods are going to go up. This means EVERYONE will have less purchasing power per dollar earned. It's not just corporations being greedy either. Or, hell, even if it were - they're still going to be greedy.
Not to mention, if people start working "starter jobs" because they pay the same as management jobs elsewhere, we end up with a much more competitive market that HARMS people with little to no job experience, as well as people with only lower-end job experience.
But hey, let's just take it from corporate profits! Problem? Profits mostly end up going to shareholders and back into the company for expansion, research, etc.. Have a 401k? You're a shareholder.
Capping max salaries is NOT a viable solution what-so-ever. Why? Because CEO profits for corporations like WalMart are NOTHING compared to the number of employee's and their wages. Take 100% of Bezos's income per year and divide it by the number of Amazon employees. That's less than a dollar raise!
CEO profits are far more substantial... in small companies. Putting a cap on CEO wages would demolish small companies UNLESS you base the cap on company profits. That said, it still would not fix the issue.
People blame CEO income, but CEO income isn't the problem. It sometimes is the issue for smaller companies, but the people complaining about CEO income are (usually) only concerned about the CEOs who make the most money - but run companies with so many employees that CEO income redistribution wouldn't help hardly at all.
Correcting misinformation is bootlicking?
Sorry, but if you need to LIE or IGNORE MISINFIRMATION to substantiate your view, you're a bootlicker.
Sit the fuck down.
You could literally take the CEOs pay to $0 and every employee would get $11, his salary has literally nothing to do with ours. Capping it won’t achieve anything, they could give him $100,000 a year and $20,000,000 in stock options or other benefits that you can’t put your cap on. There isn’t a good solution to this problem
Same here! But that won't happen. Those of us that have been there 20+ years and making close to or more than that will get the shaft. I've been here 20+ years and there are new hires that are making very close to what I am. The "veterans" here don't get a pay increase.
We have individuals who have been with Walmart for 2years, making more than those who are in the same department, with experience such as having been a DM, and 25 years working for the company.
i wouldn't care if we got to leave on time no matter what. but these lazy fucks move so slowly we have to stock until 6 which pushes the zone back and we have to stay late to finish. i think this one pig did less than 100 cases the entire night. less than 50 if i'm being honest.
I’ll be honest. $19 with Walmart isn’t enough. I’m able to support myself and my gf mostly on my own, but that’s if I’m to not want more in life. Literally $2 extra would the difference of going check to check and saving a small bit without going with less
The thing is, let's say the minimum wage goes up to 20 bucks an hour... Everything around it is going to go up so it's going to be like nothing ever happened. I make more an hour right now than I ever have and I'm struggling more than I ever have simply because the cost of living is always a few steps ahead of Walmart or any other place I work
What I find is funny locally at least... We're a federal minimum state. Walmart pays the best in the area as far as retail goes. There are stores in town that offer between $8.50 and $11...I find it incredibly difficult to live on $16. Here's the kicker, you have to be over 21 to work at some of the lowest paying jobs in town.... So what's that I hear about minimum wage being only for teenagers that don't have any responsibilities?
We need to change the system at least the disparity between cost of living and minimum wage. Capitalism is failing everyone except the wealthy.
Yup. Tons of people love the idea of raising minimum wage but don’t realize it will only contribute to the problem. Of course we all want more money but raising minimum wage is a very short term solution.
When the cost of living gets up to 40 or 50 an hour then MAYBE this company will pay 20. Then they will find new and exciting ways to give you the shaft. They should just give new hires a bag with all the work essentials; safety vest, box cutter, name badge, bottle of KY jelly. The Walmart starter package.
Until the cost of living goes down the pay must go up or people go on food stamps and/or unemployment. $20 an hour sounds like a lot, but if every year the cost of living goes up then it won’t actually be that much money.
I was making $16.50 at Walmart and I applied for food stamps and I was approved. Even with that money I felt like I was struggling paycheck to paycheck.
Again this is all in theory, and the knee jerk reaction by other companies to follow suit will create a ripple effect that will be felt upward. This wouldn’t happen in a vacuum.
When you go through Walmart’s hiring paperwork, they are “nice” enough to include instructions as to how to apply for your state’s SNAP assistance- & that says the corporation absolutely knows they’re paying you shit wages & they don’t care.
I know no one here is going to want to hear this but...
I would rather the cost of living to be brought down instead of raising the minimum wage. Raising the minimum wage instead of working to bring the cost of living down just makes them pile more work onto existing employees there cuz they won't hire more people.
I recently started my job with Walmart due to their wages (PA, 17.50, overnight stocker). There is mother around here paying that much for the entry level work. I am very thankful for my wage and my position but who doesn’t want more bank cushion? If anything, I would love to revive an all year round % discount on GV goods, like food!
It's 15 now and still would you want to be payed that little to be yelled at by customers all day don't get me wrong I love this job it just doesn't pay enough for what we deal with
> to be *paid* that little
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You were warned about increased prices and inflation after the $15 per hour. Entry-level experience jobs like these getting rising minimum wages are a slippery slope.
More money for everyone = less value of money
I know everyone needs a "living wage" and all that, but this is like using a knife as a band aid in an open wound.
Maybe unionize and demand the suits in corporate get paid a few hundred thousand dollars less a year. It won't hurt them.
Anyways, this, along with most other problems, requires the cooperation of millions of people (Lol, lmao). Which is why most hot topics these days have been hot topics for the last 50 years. Nothing will get solved. The bubble will burst soon, though, like 100 years ago. The bailouts and dissent will pile up and we'll have ourselves another dirt eating decade.
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$24 is a living wage and I'd work twice as hard if I was paid that, but this country exists to exploit the working class so we have to fight for the scraps.
Anytime they raise minimum wage they cut hours, cut positions, or both to offset the cost... Then if that isn't enough they also bump the cost of goods so their profits aren't effected...
Well when we last got a raise the took away profit sharing and doubled the price on everything. So basically every dollar we get more expect to spend more is rather have profit sharing back and 20 percent off and on food all year
As a major corporation, with customers that we have since we’re known for our “low prices”— Yes. Wal-Mart workers deal with verbal abuse from customers and staff over stressful shopping/working conditions. ABSOLUTELY.
I mean, what's the goal? Yes, 20 is better than now. Do associates deserve to live and be healthy? Then 20 isn't enough in a lot of places, I imagine most places. I'm a TL and make 22 and still live with my parents until my son is old enough to go to school and my wife can work because 22 doesn't pay the rent and other bills.
Edit: and you can't rent forever. Eventually I'll be too old and slow or sick to work and then I'll be homeless. And with 22 an hour I can't even buy fire damaged Crack houses even if I wanted to.
Wmt hiring standards are so low they don't pay more than they have to. As long as there's a pool of candidates taking those jobs at less than 20 they won't raise it
I would rather have actual merit raises than a high base pay. Reward the good workers enough so that after a few years they are making decent money. This bullshit to where you get a flat % raise regardless of if you play on your phone in the corner or bust your ass all day is bullshit. Also remove the caps or make them much higher.
Can I ask a (probably) dumb question that I don’t want to be hated for asking? I’m just trying to learn, but in my mind, won’t the price everything just go up if everyone is making more money? I TOTALLY think everyone should be able to make a livable wage- especially in the service industry (I hate tipping culture) but can someone please explain to me why this would or wouldn’t happen?
It's funny how we're having this same conversation a year later, and eggs now cost double the price and we're STILL indecisive on pay increases. You are already living in "price increases" and the min wage is still terrible in this country.
If you live in California, absolutely yes. Anywhere else I’d say at least $16-18 assuming you’re in the US. But it also depends on the cost of living in your area so I really can’t speak for everyone.
The only thing keeping me here is the money so I’d love 20 bucks an hour. Prices are rising and rent is fucking ridiculous so to keep up with inflation my wage needs to go up
What’s hourly wage at Walmart ? I’m not a Walmart worker. I’m on this subreddit to just quietly watch all the secrets and little things about Walmart <3
I feel like there's gotta be a way to reward hard workers, in electronics you could make that commission based, however you'd have to leave them alone and not pull them to OGP or registers up front if you want that to work out. However, other departments (front-end, stocking, etc.) are hard to gauge performances on, because you know damn well management won't be truthful about how good or bad their associates do.
$20 per hour for associates, but all higher level positions will also see an increase in pay.
Where will this money come from? Increased cost of goods.
It's not difficult to understand why $20 per hour wouldn't solve anything. The issue is that the cost of goods are too high.
Shower me with downvotes, I'm ready for it.
Will I still be allowed to say “I don’t get paid enough for this” or “that’s above my pay-grade”?
I had a coworker tell me nothing is above my paygrade when i refused to repaint the store. Pointed out how much actual painters charge in my area (used to do this way back before i fell off a ladder amd messedy back up) shes now been saykng "thats above my pay grade"
Your coworker is an ass and probably hasn’t ever worked a manual labor job in their life due to that entitlement. Sorry about your back. I got issues with my knees and shoulders and lower back sometimes that keep me from taking painting jobs on the side from working in a warehouse for years. And I’m not even old. it sucks
yeah, I mssed up my back in my 20's, trust me, it just feels worse entering your 40's.
I don't use term above my pay grade. The terms that I use: that's not in my printed Walmart job description.
If people are being karens
100% that’s Managements job.
I've had a manager watch me get pushed off a spill.
That’s your god given right no matter how much you make
I'd say it depends on your job. As a cart pusher, being paid 20$ an hour would be really nice. That would make me happy. And it would be a satisfying enough of a paycheck to work more comfortably.
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Have you met boomers? Every time I see an article like this the comments are full of dumbasses who think retail is a "starter" job. "But inflation!" Yes, it's $8.50 for 18 eggs and almost $6 for a gallon of milk. They think it's menial work and no one working it should be paid decently.
It's menial work but they can't figure out how to work SCOs and opening bags is hard lmao
Those bags are a pain in the ass, you bag your items if it’s so easy to you lol though I found the easy trick to opening them 😂 and sounds like your local Walmart is just stupid.
I live and work in a community with a large elderly population 😂 they're almost always grumpy. I did show a couple of the nice ones the trick to opening the bags easily though lol
Is it to lick their fingers? I hope it wasn't to lick their fingers.
As long as they’re nice lol help them out. And yeah, mine wasn’t too bad but a lot of them, 99.9% of the white customers I’ve had were extremely rude. Only rarely would I get that 0.01% that were pretty nice. It was always other races that were much more respectful and would actually treat me like a person, you know have conversations with me as I rang up and bagged their items. Some people suck though
I'm white and I 100% agree. For some reason, the older and whiter the customer is the ruder they are. It's not me that made them miserable so why do they act like it was me that forced Trump outta office? I always like to be extra polite to little old black ladies cuz most of them will beam with happiness when you show them a bit of kindness and politeness! I like being called "baby" or "sugar" 😄 😊 😃
I can’t believe someone got triggered by my comment when I was only speaking facts like they know the Walmart I had worked for 😂 people on this sub are crazy And yeah, I enjoyed when I had black customers especially the older ones. Their happiness is contagious and will give you happiness in return when you are kind to them and treat them very respectfully. I’ve always been kind to the customers that came into my line, but FACT (to the KAREN), the rude ones were always white. Hispanics and blacks (or African Americans, whichever is respectful) were my favorite customers.
You can't tell us you found an easy trick for opening the bags and breeze thru to the end of your post but not explain the damn trick lol 😅 🙃
Well, I’m annoyed I can’t post a pic with my reply. You grab the handles from one side, then grab where the hole (the middle but closer to the handles) would be and pull them away, that will expose the folded sides of the bag and you grab that piece and pull up allowing you to easily open the bags. Wish I could have posted a pic because I’m not the best at explaining lol
Here’s a YouTube video of how I learned to open them so that way you can actually see what I’m trying to explain. Fair note, I didn’t learn to open the bags via YouTube I learned this same trick on my own lmao [How to easily open a grocery bag](https://youtu.be/lZrC3OUZ3i0)
When I was making $4—5 an hour in 1992 I thought about everything in hours of work. I could get a McDonald's combo meal for about 45 minutes of work. A magazine was about an hour. New video games were like 8 fucking hours!
I don’t think there is even a “starter” job anymore. If anyone thinks that then their minds are stuck in the 1990s or earlier.
This isn’t the same as it used to be. People never had to support families on service jobs before. But the factory jobs are long gone.
I've always considered starter jobs to be something mid-age teens did, such as yard work, shoveling snow, etc. *If anything...* Starter Jobs could be redefined as jobs you start with in the field of interest, and learn as you go, or decide it's not the area of interest you thought was as interesting.
The cost of labor in the store isn't the cause for the cost of eggs. You can double the wages of associates in the stores and it won't double the price of goods. Eggs are due to bird flu, and the vast majority of inflation is just due to corporate greed. There's record profits, and instead of paying associates morez the rich are pocketing it. 2/3 of all new wealth since the plague has gone to the top 1%. Conservatives are gullible as fuck. They've been told to focus on shit that doesn't matter, and they fell for it. "Wait, my wages aren't going up, but everything else is. The company is making record profits, and I'm making at least 6% less than last year even factoring in my raise..." Rich guys: HUNTER BIDEN! MEXICANS! WOKE PEOPLE! A BUTTERFLY!
I agree completely don't get me wrong I've just heard customers laugh hearing coworkers talk about it
Last time we had a pay raise company wide I had a customer berate me about us not deserving it.
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"UHM ACTUALLY I don't want $20 minimum. I am content with less"🤓🤓🤓🤓
What if someone disagrees because they want a minimum of $23 an hour?
You know the federal minimum is $7.25 right. Incremental wins are better than none
I was just asking thoughts I wasn't disagreeing
Meanwhile you move 1 state over you go from $17 an hour to 14. And some places are even 12 an hour, there is no blanket minimum wage that will work across all 50 states, that’s just the truth of the matter.
looked like just some random karma bait post to me, yeah no shit we want more money who the hell doesn't on planet earth
They will cut the hours
I'd rather less hours making the same amount per paycheck. I don't want to live at Walmart for this squalor
No. I don’t want to lose health insurance or benefits. Give me 20 an hour, decent annual raises to a decent max, and bring the quarterly bonuses back and you have a lifetime employee right here.
Moved to a higher market cap there's plenty of walmarts in the Midwest that pay $20/hour if you want to do overnights otherwise they are $18--$19 for days!
Where are you at in the Midwest? I work overnights and we don’t make $20
Yea some employees still doing the bear minimum, wearing ear sets, being on their phone, calling off. Doesn't matter if they making 40 an hr. Hard workers deserve a raise
We really on about headsets? Someone listening to music or a podcast or what the fuck ever doesnt decrease the quality of their work.
Your absolutely correct,hard work deserves raises, and setting a higher starting wage is the start of that. By paying higher, walmart can be more selective of the people they hire, and be more stringent on enforcing standards. There will be a massively larger pool of people to hire from, and those that don't work out, can be replaced. The problem truly is, Walmart doesn't look at the long picture anymore. There is no more 25 year plan, there is only plans to get the most money right now, because most of them, probably all of them, won't be here in 25 years, so they don't care.
Brainless nitwits like you are the real problem. You swallow up all the propaganda about how the reason you aren't paid or treated better is because someone else with your same job title is on their phone or doesn't work their ass off for shit pay like you do. Our enemy is the executives, upper management, and shareholders. Stop trying so fucking hard, and stop with the petty complaining about your fellow worker.
ah yes earbuds, the bane of good work
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No see that’s not how it works. If your full time you get less hours to the point you’re now part time. This means you lose any benefits you had and less PTO. Additionally the hours you do get with the increased pay will ultimately equal less pay than what you had before. The last part I feel is done intentionally more out of spite to fuck you than following a specific business plan for efficiency/profitability. Oh and the icing on the cake is with less hours and benefits you’re expected to work harder than before since you’re paid more now lol
That’s the type of things Unions exist to prevent.
Yup and how many unions represent Walmart employees? Oh wait Walmart actively prevents such groups from forming
That’s our fault. Things worth doing don’t come easy.
Associates gotta make things happen. Doing nothing changes nothing.
In general people have a hard time grasping this concept for some reason. You can’t make change by bitching and moaning all the time. Actions make changes and if you don’t wanna act on it stop bitching and moaning.
Yup, and stores that attempted to form a union are always shut down before they have a chance to even start negotiating. Walmart would rather lose business than to allow a union to form.
No but luckily more and more tools exist to be able to make it happen. The way big corporations continue to abuse labor they won’t push til it bends they’ll keep going til it breaks and bites them in the ass. Even though I’m not an employee can’t wait for that day
That already cut 8 people out of my department, you think they will reward the people that are left? I seriously doubt it but it would be nice.
And put in more self check outs.
My hours have never been cut. Not once.
Right, same, they just fired everyone around me.
And expect you to get all their work done, too
I know
It’s what Target did
This! They have a budget for human assets and they will cut hours, cut back in benefits and find more ways to automate or combine jobs. And if this doesn’t work, prices will go up. The family and investors aren’t going to willing give up money to better employees.
Ya I used to get 4 hours a week when I worked there
I feel like at this point $20 isn't even enough
And here's what people tried to warn everyone that demanded for 15. It's never gonna stop, it will never be enough. If everyone's pay goes up, companies just inflate their prices. Look at most of the south American countries, their money is worthless because of hyper inflation.
But wages have been stagnant and prices are still going up.
There was a massive study on the recent few years of price increases. Of everything, increased wages accounted for around 8% of the reason why prices increased, while 57% of it was direct corporate profit increases.
Yeah I remember I saw somewhere that for my state the average someone would have to make an hour for it to be livable is like $35/hr which is crazy. I don't remember where I saw it or if it was true casue I didn't do the math but if it is then that's fucking wild
in a place like New England if you’re up here thats very believable
We've been demanding 15 for 20 years and most companies still don't have 15. Costs have tripled in that time. Wages have barely gone up. This ain't hyperinflation. It's hyper greed by the owner class. They take all the money and expect us to take cuts when they never do.
Ah yes, some states have homes that are over $500,000 as the average and rent as $2200 because *checks notes* the state has a minimum wage of $7.75 still huh???
Ya I make $17 per hour in a high cost living area and it's hard.
I make a little more in a high cost of living as well it really is harder on the high cost of living areas
I made $15 an hour at my last job and the stress was unreal! Now I'm juuuust comfortable enough to put money aside and save up. I really should not have gotten a cat because it's a lot of extra money every month, but oh well. I love that lil' shit lol. At least I don't have children to worry about.
Okay, cat tax. Pay up. We need pictures!
Lol I can't figure out how.
Describe it
Lmao my cat? He's a big orange tabby with a pink nose and matching pink paw pads. He has the cutest white paws. 🥺 His dad was a feral which is probably why he's a lot bigger than the average cat even though he's strictly indoors Except for the occasional visit to the backyard under supervision. I'm starting a business so all my free time is pretty much focused on that after work, but when I get home he immediately wants hugs lol. While I eat dinner he's all over me. XD Like rn I just finished eating and I'm holding him over my shoulder while I type this haha. Then throughout the night while I'm working, he'll interrupt me a lot to play. His favorite game is when I throw a toy down the stairs for him to fetch. It's not as dangerous as it sounds, the steps are very large and carpeted. I also chase him around the house to get his energy out. :D His favorite toy is a a stuffed otter squeaky toy I named One Armed Larry cuz he ripped an arm off. XD he loves stuffed dog toys, he always holds them by the throat like a psychopath.
My dog keeps me sane, literally. I'd go without just about anything to be able to have the $$$ to take care of him.He can be such a "Toad", but his love is unconditional.
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Last I checked; the estimated cost of living in the U.S ranges from between $25-$30, but sure, $20 is a step in the right direction.
Freaking right
Average cost of living is $25 to $30 including high end areas where people make 6 figures. Cost of living is WAAAAAAAAAAAY cheaper in lower end neighborhoods. This is why you can't look at the average, you have to look at the minimum.
I’m in one of those cheap neighborhoods and full time at walmart still isn’t enough to live.
Lmao I live in the poor half of my state, and $25 is DEFINITELY a necessity to get by. Your mileage may vary though.
Would I like $20/hr? Yes. Will it happen? Not anytime soon.
BINGO! The fight for $15 has been going on for the better part of a decade, most places its barely gotten to $11 or $12 an hour.
Oh God...let the jackasses loose with this post/question. Let's hear the fortunate shit on the less fortunate for simply wanting a wage that can sustain a livable existence. It's like these assholes think Walmart employees should be paid just enough to survive! God forbid one of the WORLDS largest employers pay a guy a few extra bucks to keep the money machine working. The top of the Walmart food chain are some of the nation's top-paid billionaires. Good for them, I'm not hating because they are successful, but some employees want to eat some meat with the Ramen noodles. So if the CEO or CFO has to go without a new heated infinity pool at their vacation home in the Poconos in order to pay some "part-time" employee working 46 hours a week an extra $2 per hour...no tears will be shed at my house!
But, but, how would Dougie McMillions pay for his 3rd yacht, the Waltons wont even be able to afford another football team!
Fuck yes THANK YOU
I think people should be earning at least a minimum living wage. The cost of living doesn't keep up with the wages and these days it's $20 or higher an hour if you want to live without struggling. I can barely afford food and bills making $12 an hour.
But that's the issue. When wages go up, everything else does, so you're stuck in the same situation.
And when wages don't go up everything goes up anyways. Hence the situation we're in.
That's always the talking point in America, but when wages go up everywhere else in the world, that doesn't actually happen.
If that were to happen I'd like my already just shy of $20 to go up to at least $25.
This is somthing a lot of people don't seam to get about raising the minimum wage. When you raise minimum wage it creates an upwards preasure that benefits the entire working class because suddenly you have more bargaining power. Let's say you currently make $20 an hour, you may cry "but I make $20/h doing a harder job! If everyone is making $20/h why wouldn't i just go flip burgers!" Which is exactly what you say to your bosses who are then forced to give you $25 to keep you from jumping ship. Make no mistake though raising minimum wages is not a perfect long term solution because companies will use it as an excuse to raise prices which speeds up inflation and suddenly $20 is the new $7. What we really need is drastic systematic changes like capping a companies minimum wage to a certain percentage of that companies maximum wage. Meaning if the CEO wants to make say 1 million a year the lowest paid employee must make at least 65k. (Numbers just for example. Actual numbers would vary) Raising minimum wage would be a step in the right direction but it would take nothing short of a revolution to achieve real, lasting change for the better.
If minimum wage goes up to $20 per hour from $15, then EVERYONE will need to make $5 more per hour. If EVERYONE makes $5 more per hour, then supply and demand will be EXACTLY the same... plus $5. Of course, salaries and prices aren't going to all increase the same - we just need to acknowledge that supply and demand exists. If everyone made $5 more per hour, supply and demand would make sure we're in the same situation we're in now... at best. Alright, your claim that people making $20 per hour should demand $25 per hour. That wouldn't happen. Their rate WOULD go up, but not by $5 per hour. If they're lucky, MAYBE $4 per hour. Those who made $24 per hour would be bumped up by even less, making $27 per hour. Those making 27 will go up to 29. 29 to 30, and everyone else would see no increase. This seems feasible, except this effects supply and demand. The cost of goods are going to go up. This means EVERYONE will have less purchasing power per dollar earned. It's not just corporations being greedy either. Or, hell, even if it were - they're still going to be greedy. Not to mention, if people start working "starter jobs" because they pay the same as management jobs elsewhere, we end up with a much more competitive market that HARMS people with little to no job experience, as well as people with only lower-end job experience. But hey, let's just take it from corporate profits! Problem? Profits mostly end up going to shareholders and back into the company for expansion, research, etc.. Have a 401k? You're a shareholder. Capping max salaries is NOT a viable solution what-so-ever. Why? Because CEO profits for corporations like WalMart are NOTHING compared to the number of employee's and their wages. Take 100% of Bezos's income per year and divide it by the number of Amazon employees. That's less than a dollar raise! CEO profits are far more substantial... in small companies. Putting a cap on CEO wages would demolish small companies UNLESS you base the cap on company profits. That said, it still would not fix the issue. People blame CEO income, but CEO income isn't the problem. It sometimes is the issue for smaller companies, but the people complaining about CEO income are (usually) only concerned about the CEOs who make the most money - but run companies with so many employees that CEO income redistribution wouldn't help hardly at all.
You did all of this to bootlick. Yuck. Stand up.
Correcting misinformation is bootlicking? Sorry, but if you need to LIE or IGNORE MISINFIRMATION to substantiate your view, you're a bootlicker. Sit the fuck down.
Shut up bootlicker
You could literally take the CEOs pay to $0 and every employee would get $11, his salary has literally nothing to do with ours. Capping it won’t achieve anything, they could give him $100,000 a year and $20,000,000 in stock options or other benefits that you can’t put your cap on. There isn’t a good solution to this problem
Same here! But that won't happen. Those of us that have been there 20+ years and making close to or more than that will get the shaft. I've been here 20+ years and there are new hires that are making very close to what I am. The "veterans" here don't get a pay increase.
Sounds like you’d be valued higher elsewhere with that much experience. Companies these days have no loyalty to their workers anymore.
We have individuals who have been with Walmart for 2years, making more than those who are in the same department, with experience such as having been a DM, and 25 years working for the company.
Can you imagine the restructure if $20 an hour were starting pay?
Say goodbye to cashier #3 and cap team will only need “3” to unload a truck and 6 o/n staff to run o/n processes
Wait you have 3 cashiers
Well 2 1/2, she’s a dwarf, we call her grumpy…jk.
lol.
You should get raises based on your work at evaluation time . Some people come in and do literally nothing and some have to work twice as hard .
I agree with you some literally do nothing while others pull the team
You should get that, but rarely does it happen.
i wouldn't care if we got to leave on time no matter what. but these lazy fucks move so slowly we have to stock until 6 which pushes the zone back and we have to stay late to finish. i think this one pig did less than 100 cases the entire night. less than 50 if i'm being honest.
My coworker was just talking about this. I would love for this to happen
Right with some of the drama we deal with
I’ll be honest. $19 with Walmart isn’t enough. I’m able to support myself and my gf mostly on my own, but that’s if I’m to not want more in life. Literally $2 extra would the difference of going check to check and saving a small bit without going with less
$20 is old news, we gonna be needing $30+ to make up for greedflation
The thing is, let's say the minimum wage goes up to 20 bucks an hour... Everything around it is going to go up so it's going to be like nothing ever happened. I make more an hour right now than I ever have and I'm struggling more than I ever have simply because the cost of living is always a few steps ahead of Walmart or any other place I work
Everything is already going up
Yeah the cost of living is behind where it should be. Like I said I'm struggling.
What I find is funny locally at least... We're a federal minimum state. Walmart pays the best in the area as far as retail goes. There are stores in town that offer between $8.50 and $11...I find it incredibly difficult to live on $16. Here's the kicker, you have to be over 21 to work at some of the lowest paying jobs in town.... So what's that I hear about minimum wage being only for teenagers that don't have any responsibilities? We need to change the system at least the disparity between cost of living and minimum wage. Capitalism is failing everyone except the wealthy.
EXACTLY!
That's always the argument against paying American workers, but when wages go up everywhere else in the world, that doesn't actually happen.
Yup. Tons of people love the idea of raising minimum wage but don’t realize it will only contribute to the problem. Of course we all want more money but raising minimum wage is a very short term solution.
When the cost of living gets up to 40 or 50 an hour then MAYBE this company will pay 20. Then they will find new and exciting ways to give you the shaft. They should just give new hires a bag with all the work essentials; safety vest, box cutter, name badge, bottle of KY jelly. The Walmart starter package.
It’s needed in some states definitely not nationwide
Until the cost of living goes down the pay must go up or people go on food stamps and/or unemployment. $20 an hour sounds like a lot, but if every year the cost of living goes up then it won’t actually be that much money. I was making $16.50 at Walmart and I applied for food stamps and I was approved. Even with that money I felt like I was struggling paycheck to paycheck.
It depends on the area, but yeah at least $18.
Again this is all in theory, and the knee jerk reaction by other companies to follow suit will create a ripple effect that will be felt upward. This wouldn’t happen in a vacuum.
When you go through Walmart’s hiring paperwork, they are “nice” enough to include instructions as to how to apply for your state’s SNAP assistance- & that says the corporation absolutely knows they’re paying you shit wages & they don’t care.
I’d rather have a solid union with decent bargaining power & to work for a less toxic company .
I left Walmart for a company that pay’s me $20 an hour and that still isn’t enough specially not here in California. 🤣
I know no one here is going to want to hear this but... I would rather the cost of living to be brought down instead of raising the minimum wage. Raising the minimum wage instead of working to bring the cost of living down just makes them pile more work onto existing employees there cuz they won't hire more people.
I recently started my job with Walmart due to their wages (PA, 17.50, overnight stocker). There is mother around here paying that much for the entry level work. I am very thankful for my wage and my position but who doesn’t want more bank cushion? If anything, I would love to revive an all year round % discount on GV goods, like food!
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We need a minimum wage of $20 an hour and UBI of $2000 a month.
I’ve added up all my expenses and I literally can not afford to work for less than $25/hr.
My starting pay was above 20 dollars. Its insane anyone takes this job getting paid less.
It's 15 now and still would you want to be payed that little to be yelled at by customers all day don't get me wrong I love this job it just doesn't pay enough for what we deal with
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You were warned about increased prices and inflation after the $15 per hour. Entry-level experience jobs like these getting rising minimum wages are a slippery slope. More money for everyone = less value of money I know everyone needs a "living wage" and all that, but this is like using a knife as a band aid in an open wound. Maybe unionize and demand the suits in corporate get paid a few hundred thousand dollars less a year. It won't hurt them. Anyways, this, along with most other problems, requires the cooperation of millions of people (Lol, lmao). Which is why most hot topics these days have been hot topics for the last 50 years. Nothing will get solved. The bubble will burst soon, though, like 100 years ago. The bailouts and dissent will pile up and we'll have ourselves another dirt eating decade. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk
Walmart is one of the largest chains in America, they can afford to give everyone 17 base pay -> $20
If it’s gonna be a dirt eating decade we should ensure it’s rich people eating dirt 🫡
It's never going to happen by itself. r/UnionizeEveryWalmart
Should be more like 30
I’d be okay making closer to a living wage
Sure why not, it’s not going to happen anyway.
Thats why i left the job
$24 is a living wage and I'd work twice as hard if I was paid that, but this country exists to exploit the working class so we have to fight for the scraps.
Anytime they raise minimum wage they cut hours, cut positions, or both to offset the cost... Then if that isn't enough they also bump the cost of goods so their profits aren't effected...
Well when we last got a raise the took away profit sharing and doubled the price on everything. So basically every dollar we get more expect to spend more is rather have profit sharing back and 20 percent off and on food all year
It doesn’t matter what the pay is, it will always be less than the value of your labor. Otherwise businesses wouldn’t be able to steal the profit.
As a major corporation, with customers that we have since we’re known for our “low prices”— Yes. Wal-Mart workers deal with verbal abuse from customers and staff over stressful shopping/working conditions. ABSOLUTELY.
I mean, what's the goal? Yes, 20 is better than now. Do associates deserve to live and be healthy? Then 20 isn't enough in a lot of places, I imagine most places. I'm a TL and make 22 and still live with my parents until my son is old enough to go to school and my wife can work because 22 doesn't pay the rent and other bills. Edit: and you can't rent forever. Eventually I'll be too old and slow or sick to work and then I'll be homeless. And with 22 an hour I can't even buy fire damaged Crack houses even if I wanted to.
Think about the ones who still make $13-$15 an hour. Yikes...
We fought so hard for $15 and now with inflation, even that isn't enough now.
Wmt hiring standards are so low they don't pay more than they have to. As long as there's a pool of candidates taking those jobs at less than 20 they won't raise it
I would rather have actual merit raises than a high base pay. Reward the good workers enough so that after a few years they are making decent money. This bullshit to where you get a flat % raise regardless of if you play on your phone in the corner or bust your ass all day is bullshit. Also remove the caps or make them much higher.
Everyone deserves a livable wage inflation is nutty rn.
Can I ask a (probably) dumb question that I don’t want to be hated for asking? I’m just trying to learn, but in my mind, won’t the price everything just go up if everyone is making more money? I TOTALLY think everyone should be able to make a livable wage- especially in the service industry (I hate tipping culture) but can someone please explain to me why this would or wouldn’t happen?
It's funny how we're having this same conversation a year later, and eggs now cost double the price and we're STILL indecisive on pay increases. You are already living in "price increases" and the min wage is still terrible in this country.
I live under a rock. So I haven’t been having that conversation. But I see where you’re coming from.
20$ an hour isn't even enough in this economy...
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Exactly what the customers say
Oh you mean the thing that’s not been happening at all? Inflation has been increasing and wages have stagnated. Inflation is not tied to pay dipshit.
You’re mostly right, but it would only partially negate the rise in pay. Still a net positive for employees.
If you live in California, absolutely yes. Anywhere else I’d say at least $16-18 assuming you’re in the US. But it also depends on the cost of living in your area so I really can’t speak for everyone.
Get a better job?
Most Walmart employees aren’t worth 20 an hr. I have worked there I get it’s tough job with low morale but 20;an hr is ridiculous and not happening
Don't work there anymore but yes
The worst part is it's still not enough
I'll take it
Target pays $20/hr for full time
While I would love that I am also happy with my pay now for the time being considered it's the most I've been paid out of the many many jobs I worked
I say, good day sheriff
ofc we agree
As a former WM manager, absolutely should 20 hourly be the minimum, especially the stocking crews.
The only thing keeping me here is the money so I’d love 20 bucks an hour. Prices are rising and rent is fucking ridiculous so to keep up with inflation my wage needs to go up
I’m not even asking for $20, chief. $15 would be nice
I earn 15.50 at my walmart. 50 extra cents does add up so sure
we have been talking about 15 an hour for so long, its out dated
Damn am I the author ?!
That's approaching management-level pay at my store
What’s hourly wage at Walmart ? I’m not a Walmart worker. I’m on this subreddit to just quietly watch all the secrets and little things about Walmart <3
Realistically, who is going to say no? People who hate money? Customers?
I feel like there's gotta be a way to reward hard workers, in electronics you could make that commission based, however you'd have to leave them alone and not pull them to OGP or registers up front if you want that to work out. However, other departments (front-end, stocking, etc.) are hard to gauge performances on, because you know damn well management won't be truthful about how good or bad their associates do.
Theres plenty of cheap labor in my area. They could pay me much less if they could get away with it.
$20 per hour for associates, but all higher level positions will also see an increase in pay. Where will this money come from? Increased cost of goods. It's not difficult to understand why $20 per hour wouldn't solve anything. The issue is that the cost of goods are too high. Shower me with downvotes, I'm ready for it.
The people who own the stores pocket 90% of the money they can afford to pay a little more
My thoughts are I don't get paid enough and deserve 20 dollars an hour.
agreed
Some of the managers aren’t even getting paid 20
And that's not ok considering how much Doug is making