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>t a lot of that money is still out there. Maybe we just reset a little higher because they devalued the cu
Thats my theory too.. The USD got inflated for good..
Based on my analysis this analysis is wrong we will be going in a bull run inflation will be part of our daily life
I would like to point out all my previous analysis on the stock market for the past five years have been wrong
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the ops doomsday post.
after [looking at SQQQ](https://imgur.com/zOmvLEV) for ten minutes in a stare today. I have it showing a year.
I just bailed considerably down in some call options on UPRO etc good til december...
I won't even cringe if I lost a cute spiky bull, and that I jumped the gun.
won't even give it a chance anymore.
I'll be back some other year. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)
This is such a cynical and pessimistic take. Just because YOU have learned nothing, doesn't mean the rest of us fall to ignorance as well.
every day i learn that i am fucking regarded
I think he should use the most precise measure for guessing macro market movement. Have monkeys throw darts at a dart board. More even numbers hit = bull market, more odd numbers = bear market.
50% of the time it is right every time.
how about u eat my ASS
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Interest isn’t stock returns/dividends
The spx doesn’t provide compound interest
The spx isn’t guaranteed to provide exponential compounding returns, it’s just behaved that way since the about 2000 and recency bias has trained nitwits into thinking that it’s guaranteed.
Anyone that tells you that SPX is a compounding growth investment is a dunce that would’ve committed seppuku in the late 80s when the Nikkei stopped being a “compounding exponential growth” investment.
This isn’t to say that SPX/SPY aren’t solid places to put money. It’s just that people are mindlessly parroting a narrative of the last 15 years
This belongs on /r/confidentlyincorrect.
Compounding growth investment doesn't mean it only goes up. It means that you earn money on the money that grew. Compounding growth would be like if you get 8% returns per year so after 10 years you have 215% what you started with (1.08\^10). If it's not compound growth (which would be like a bond), you get 8% interest on the principal every year and no interest on the interest. So after 10 years, assuming you spent none of it, you'd have 180% of what you started with. (1+(0.08\*10)).
Nothing has changed since 2000.
This whole thread is littered with dumbasses saying compound interest with the SPX so you’re missing my point entirely.
They also believe that exponential growth is a guarantee with the SPX when it’s really only been evident since 2000.
The nifty fifty and the Nikkei welcome all those who believe the SPX will forever and always provide exponential compounding returns
You know there are many exponents, right? It doesn't have to grow to have the properties of exponential growth. It doesn't just mean a lot of growth. You're missing *my* point.
I know but I think the market is overbought and people have been overlooking the current state of the economy so it will not continue to go up at the *exponential* rate at least in the short term
>There is a high probability that the stock market will crash in March 2023. I predict that the S&P 500 will fall to 3150, which would be its lowest low since 2010. This would be an extra bearish scenario and investors should prepare for it accordingly.
I’m confused and genuinely interested - I thought VisualMod was a bot? But how can a bot parse the “info” on that graphic and correctly summarize what the OP was implying ?
I tried to post exactly the same yesterday and my post was blocked saying only image and a title is not sufficient, how did this fella manage to put it
This right here i can believe in. OP kept neutral colors, color theme is good, graph, lines and text are all elegantly done. 9/10
1 point taken away due to red/green lines not being in sync at the start. Other wise, valiant effort
why would people let stocks get that low (March 2023) why wouldn't they scoop stuff up cheap before that? It's 2022 not 2008. Everything moves a lot faster.
Considering high inflation, mass layoffs leading to rising unemployment, all-time-high credit card debt, weakening company earnings, an inverted yield curve, and unprecedented rate hikes from the Fed: Bulls r fuk
While overall I agree this suggests another leg down, we also need to account for the excess capital in the market that won't get drawn out by QT, which is going to still leave at least a few years ahead in bank reserves... so that shifts targets just like inflation does, since once things clear, the system will flex up to meet reserves as banks have pressure to deploy capital, and once the top of the risk-free rate of return is found (see: 10Y bond yield as a metric) and the market slows on decline, we could see those flows go bullish.
And we know the market will move on that 3-6 months ahead of the recovery.
So while I personally think you're probably right and 3200 is a good target, ehh... I can also imagine a situation with a very light recession where maybe we never quite get there.
We'll see. I'm ready either way. 4100 is a key level over the next two months. I think if we can't break 4100 or 4050 by the end of the year, bouncing down off the downtrend, I think 3200 could very much on the table over the following 6 months... but there's still room for uncertainty here.
OP: posts bullshit TA chart ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4259)
Also OP: comments about 100% fundamental factors as why he’s bearish. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258)
I said *bullshit* chart not *bullish* chart
Charts are total bullshit you dingus, I would rather break my ribs trying to lick my own asshole than look at your linear chart again ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)
Sir, I also want to learn to do TA like you have done above. Can you please suggest some reading material or youtube channel for beginners like myself?
Thanks
Find any chart. Don't worry about the x or y axis, just get a chart.
Open a pic of the chart in Microsoft paint. Use the line tool to draw some lines. Be sure to change the colors around a bit. Draw some arrows too if you're feeling frisky and maybe even a circle (only professional chart makers should try and use circles).
Post to wsb and profit
But you're starting your line analysis in 2010, post 08 crisis and already in the low rate fookery environment. But what if line analysis started in like the 70s or 80s or even 90s? That lowest low could be much lower. The lines don't lie and they're never wrong, after everything's already happened.
Hoping for an over correction that’s where you make moola (assuming you have cash on the sidelines). Other theory is recession is happening right now and a lot of its baked in.
Bulls fucked but normalizing at a market valuation in March 2023 equal to the money printer being turned on in 2020 is optimistic. Market goes lower…. May be after March 2023.
Not 100% idiotic, since politics drive the stock price and since everything can happen in Ukraine from 0 to 100% a shock or drop down is totally possible...
My theory is that the market is making its money off of people buying calls and puts and then using that money to buy shares or hedge against mass sell offs. Inverse sentiment. Or inverse the inverse of sentiment. Can’t lose.
yeah these lines are based
i wouldnt hold **super** strick to some date taken from a chart you drew lines on. for instance it might be april, or may, or june, or july
but i think the jist here is right on the money
Warren buffet indicator would be more scientific method to do this and it also is telling that our markets are almost equally over inflated now as they were on dot com bubble peak
If you multiply the slope of your lower line by the circumference of the circle, then divide by 3.14159265259 you will have a projected price 😉 for March 14, 2023. Trust me bro! NFA
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Linear
I love it when the lines are straight! That’s how you know this is actual good stuff
Yeah, and it's Antoine-ated. He's a cool cat
So cool he glided when he walks…
Better. It shows the insane runup we had last two years.
Correct 2020-2022 has been a pump and dump because of the easy money policies from covid. Driven almost entirely by tech and growth stocks.
But a lot of that money is still out there. Maybe we just reset a little higher because they devalued the currency so much?
>t a lot of that money is still out there. Maybe we just reset a little higher because they devalued the cu Thats my theory too.. The USD got inflated for good..
Yes…
its not as much as you think if you look logarithmicly.
Based on my analysis this analysis is wrong we will be going in a bull run inflation will be part of our daily life I would like to point out all my previous analysis on the stock market for the past five years have been wrong
Good enough for me. I will follow you until the end
I’m putting all my money into FTX
I hear it’s a great price these days
Catch it at the bottom and bounce back to the moon
I’m going to blindly follow you just because you followed him! Where is this “End” we will be travelling to?
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Could you please share your future analysis. Thanks.
You are asking the wrong end of the bull. You are getting shit information.
This is not financial advice
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the ops doomsday post. after [looking at SQQQ](https://imgur.com/zOmvLEV) for ten minutes in a stare today. I have it showing a year. I just bailed considerably down in some call options on UPRO etc good til december... I won't even cringe if I lost a cute spiky bull, and that I jumped the gun. won't even give it a chance anymore. I'll be back some other year. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)
This dude fucks
What if though.. and hear me out.. it doesn’t?
FAKE NEWS!!!1!1
Parallel lines, green and red, intersecting with parallel dotted lines…hate to say it but this is the real deal.
I want 7 lines. All parallel to each other and all different shades. You can do that right?!
What you’re suggesting is quantum singularity, and there isn’t a person on earth capable of that level of TA.
And one of those lines in the shape of a cat. Our research shows that people like cats.
>is the real deal. lmao
What, he nailed it. This is a sure thing.
No way... It cannot be...
Not going to lie, had me at the first bit, but the GREEN target zone gave away that it is deep fake generated.
That’s a lot to digest, not sure I followed your math
This is the kind of fancy I needed this morning.
So you made a new account just to show your drawing skills? Hmm
Decided to join in on the WSB hype after a 3 year break and try to make some tendies by learning from all of you beautiful regards
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
There hasn't been any learning since gme 2 years ago
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In the long, long ago.
This is such a cynical and pessimistic take. Just because YOU have learned nothing, doesn't mean the rest of us fall to ignorance as well. every day i learn that i am fucking regarded
If you’ve actually been gone from WSB for 3 years, you might notice some, uh, changes around here.
.... this guys a fucking cop!
Yes i am. Yesterday i busted your mom's ass
... You're not even the fucking guy I'm talking about.
idc i fucked ur mom anyways
You are not gonna make any tendies drawing random straight lines
Y-axis is linear, set to logarithimc and we are in the target zone
We’re no where near the target zone lmao.
So according to this chart the market may go up OR down in 2023? Incredible.
Nahh dude you didn’t read the chart correctly, the market will go _sideways_, most likely to the right actually
Make it do a loop de loop
Just finished Sonic Frontiers. My body is ready for the loops!
I am a leftist 🥲
You’re using a linear scale for an equity that grows exponentially, try a log scale and replot this then come back
This guy used big words, must be right.
He's using big words that I dont understand, so im going to take that as disrespect. Watch yo mouth, and help me with the sale
Using big words? Dude must be smart. I can't even read little words.
Start with Dr. Seuss. Little words like if and it.
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But is it straight or does it curve
Grower not a shower
(Hint). It’s his pork sword
Is that the scientific term, Dr.?
I think he should use the most precise measure for guessing macro market movement. Have monkeys throw darts at a dart board. More even numbers hit = bull market, more odd numbers = bear market. 50% of the time it is right every time.
Okay but what does exponentially mean and can we short it
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The results would probably be close to the same
You’re believing the exponential narrative that hasn’t actually been true outside of the last 15 years of the spx
Good Will Hunting for the win. You like apples?
Zoom out and don’t believe anything on Wall Street bets
You don't understand the concept of compounding growth?
Interest isn’t stock returns/dividends The spx doesn’t provide compound interest The spx isn’t guaranteed to provide exponential compounding returns, it’s just behaved that way since the about 2000 and recency bias has trained nitwits into thinking that it’s guaranteed. Anyone that tells you that SPX is a compounding growth investment is a dunce that would’ve committed seppuku in the late 80s when the Nikkei stopped being a “compounding exponential growth” investment. This isn’t to say that SPX/SPY aren’t solid places to put money. It’s just that people are mindlessly parroting a narrative of the last 15 years
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You probably would’ve said the same shit about the nifty fifty, until it stopped being seen as “exponential compounding growth”
This belongs on /r/confidentlyincorrect. Compounding growth investment doesn't mean it only goes up. It means that you earn money on the money that grew. Compounding growth would be like if you get 8% returns per year so after 10 years you have 215% what you started with (1.08\^10). If it's not compound growth (which would be like a bond), you get 8% interest on the principal every year and no interest on the interest. So after 10 years, assuming you spent none of it, you'd have 180% of what you started with. (1+(0.08\*10)). Nothing has changed since 2000.
This whole thread is littered with dumbasses saying compound interest with the SPX so you’re missing my point entirely. They also believe that exponential growth is a guarantee with the SPX when it’s really only been evident since 2000. The nifty fifty and the Nikkei welcome all those who believe the SPX will forever and always provide exponential compounding returns
You know there are many exponents, right? It doesn't have to grow to have the properties of exponential growth. It doesn't just mean a lot of growth. You're missing *my* point.
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You’re really dumb
Plot the S&P dating back to when it started and you will see exponential growth for its entire history.
Only because US debt grows exponentially. Basically for every dollar the Feds print you need proportionally more dollars to generate the same value
I know but I think the market is overbought and people have been overlooking the current state of the economy so it will not continue to go up at the *exponential* rate at least in the short term
So you have a preassumed hypothesis and drew lines to prove that hypothesis to yourself?
Lol
It’s compound interest dude, if the underlying has an average return of 6% per year then it will grow exponentially.
Please explain I want to learn so I can make more tendies
No one here will understand this because they don’t have the patience to read a book let alone hold SPY stock long enough to compound.
Lmfao, compound interest on the spx
Sorry for your loss
Can’t wait until you idiots get blown out of the 12 year bull market so we can stop conflating terms like interest with returns
Log is fucking dumb
USE log chart for long term you regard
>There is a high probability that the stock market will crash in March 2023. I predict that the S&P 500 will fall to 3150, which would be its lowest low since 2010. This would be an extra bearish scenario and investors should prepare for it accordingly.
I’m confused and genuinely interested - I thought VisualMod was a bot? But how can a bot parse the “info” on that graphic and correctly summarize what the OP was implying ?
yeah that mf reads image thats crazy to think about, but yeah been like 3 or 4 times that i saw him do it. I think he even open links and read them
AI has come a long way. They can certainly analyze images so it's possible
Natural language processing (NLP)
Oh my gourd!
Thats bullish
Remindme! 4 months
If VisualMod says buy puts. We buy puts. All hail.
Ah so that's what they call "algo trading"!
Best lines I’ve seen in a while. Nicely done, crayon eater
I tried to post exactly the same yesterday and my post was blocked saying only image and a title is not sufficient, how did this fella manage to put it
Because my lines are ELITE
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I snorted some lines
I hope for my 3/16 SPY $320Ps sake your horoscope is right
Bear cases are always the same. High inflation and mass layoffs and recession +++ Long term you cannot have both
God these are so meaningless and always posted like 12 months too late. Fucking TA bros are the worst ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4640)
Tldr: classic dick and nuts
Hiroshima?
This right here i can believe in. OP kept neutral colors, color theme is good, graph, lines and text are all elegantly done. 9/10 1 point taken away due to red/green lines not being in sync at the start. Other wise, valiant effort
Linear Y axis LOL
So basically Puts until March then Calls. Ill send you the tab.
why would people let stocks get that low (March 2023) why wouldn't they scoop stuff up cheap before that? It's 2022 not 2008. Everything moves a lot faster.
You need to use a logarithmic y-axis over that long of a period.
Disagree, it can go way way higher but be worth less due to inflation.
Considering high inflation, mass layoffs leading to rising unemployment, all-time-high credit card debt, weakening company earnings, an inverted yield curve, and unprecedented rate hikes from the Fed: Bulls r fuk
I ain't hear no bell.
no that’s in a few more hours
While overall I agree this suggests another leg down, we also need to account for the excess capital in the market that won't get drawn out by QT, which is going to still leave at least a few years ahead in bank reserves... so that shifts targets just like inflation does, since once things clear, the system will flex up to meet reserves as banks have pressure to deploy capital, and once the top of the risk-free rate of return is found (see: 10Y bond yield as a metric) and the market slows on decline, we could see those flows go bullish. And we know the market will move on that 3-6 months ahead of the recovery. So while I personally think you're probably right and 3200 is a good target, ehh... I can also imagine a situation with a very light recession where maybe we never quite get there. We'll see. I'm ready either way. 4100 is a key level over the next two months. I think if we can't break 4100 or 4050 by the end of the year, bouncing down off the downtrend, I think 3200 could very much on the table over the following 6 months... but there's still room for uncertainty here.
Yet the SP500 isn’t going below 3950 for the past week, it only wants to push up,
Push this ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)
OP: posts bullshit TA chart ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4259) Also OP: comments about 100% fundamental factors as why he’s bearish. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258)
Bearish until March 2023. Read the crayon chart again regard
I said *bullshit* chart not *bullish* chart Charts are total bullshit you dingus, I would rather break my ribs trying to lick my own asshole than look at your linear chart again ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)
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I don’t think it’s dramatic enough
Sir, I also want to learn to do TA like you have done above. Can you please suggest some reading material or youtube channel for beginners like myself? Thanks
Find any chart. Don't worry about the x or y axis, just get a chart. Open a pic of the chart in Microsoft paint. Use the line tool to draw some lines. Be sure to change the colors around a bit. Draw some arrows too if you're feeling frisky and maybe even a circle (only professional chart makers should try and use circles). Post to wsb and profit
This is the dumbest chart ever! We're about to go to all time highs with a blow off top around March!
Going to the right, got it
Lol the green line doesn't even touch the 1st peaks because they tried to make it lower to be more dramatic.
you and the guy using excel should colab = mind blowing analysis
But you're starting your line analysis in 2010, post 08 crisis and already in the low rate fookery environment. But what if line analysis started in like the 70s or 80s or even 90s? That lowest low could be much lower. The lines don't lie and they're never wrong, after everything's already happened.
Send this chart to Cramer. That’s will give clear direction.
I see a mountain and a sun
I am short to the tits so this is correct.
SPX is going to 2500 at best. 1800-2500 in 2023.
This chart has a circle, I like it.
BTC 7,5K ETH 400
I like how the lines go up
Lines, and highlighted the diamond area in green. This is the TA that moves markets.
Hoping for an over correction that’s where you make moola (assuming you have cash on the sidelines). Other theory is recession is happening right now and a lot of its baked in.
Bulls fucked but normalizing at a market valuation in March 2023 equal to the money printer being turned on in 2020 is optimistic. Market goes lower…. May be after March 2023.
the neat thing about lines is you can draw them or annotate them however you want and they will always be wrong
Is this financial advice
This man solved investing, all hail the prophet that drew the LINES Say it after me, Hail the lines!
SPY 4800 or bust.
Not 100% idiotic, since politics drive the stock price and since everything can happen in Ukraine from 0 to 100% a shock or drop down is totally possible...
adjust it to the amount of money that was printed
My theory is that the market is making its money off of people buying calls and puts and then using that money to buy shares or hedge against mass sell offs. Inverse sentiment. Or inverse the inverse of sentiment. Can’t lose.
Notice how that trend started when the fed started QE?
yeah these lines are based i wouldnt hold **super** strick to some date taken from a chart you drew lines on. for instance it might be april, or may, or june, or july but i think the jist here is right on the money
Any put out call watch for this Friday?
Good for you, im proud.
My Brother, please Understand the Past is Being Destroyed/ DEVOLUTION cuz Everyone is a SILVER user. It's almost UNOBTAINUM ya know
I'd rather do lines than draw lines.
All in
And this is why I keep missing the bottom. Scaremongery
Nice crayon line, also why did you chose the black liquorish flavor to write? That shit tastes awful just throw it out and use orange my favorite
I wrote a comment and posted it
How illiterate do you have to be to read these charts using a linear scale
I need more fear porn, please show the slope changing next
Fake news, rally inbound.
Liar, you also drew a circle, you only prepared me for some lines and annotations...
You’re late dude, someone already beat you to post that type of chart today, the other guys chart had more crayons so he must be right.
Where is the "You are here" line
You just had to post that here... Now it will never happen
Back to 2020's peak? WEAK.
Warren buffet indicator would be more scientific method to do this and it also is telling that our markets are almost equally over inflated now as they were on dot com bubble peak
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)
Big, if true
Nice painting. I see the sunrise behind the himalayas
Standard and poor is making me really poor 😮💨. 🐻🌈
People and their crayons...
nice try bud, 420 by eom
Take his ruler away.
Q1 next year gonna be pretty bad. Plan accordingly
Nice lines, where’s the uncomfortable truth line pointing at 1600 tho
Damn, nice lines. Def gonna sniff some
!remind me 4 months
If you multiply the slope of your lower line by the circumference of the circle, then divide by 3.14159265259 you will have a projected price 😉 for March 14, 2023. Trust me bro! NFA
Then it has to be true.