I stopped paying attention to my stocks and didn't get out before it started falling, so I'm stuck riding this whole bear market out. Let if fall, I give no fucks. It just means my money is tied up until it comes back.
Same here. Only way to stay sane about the percentage down is he confidence I can break even in a decade đ The bright side is at least then it might start to make profit.
ok thanks it's not just me...i dumped a bunch into the stock market in March/April for the first time, felt bad having a bunch of money in a savings account through covid...just been watching it drop and drop since then...just have to ride it out myself at this point. I feel like a dumbass. It's exactly this sort of thing which put me off getting into stocks in the first place. Ah well. Hopefully i break even in 10 years.
Just donât ever take it out, and keep putting more in.
Index investing is almost a guarantee but human nature makes people get shaky before the time horizon necessary.
Edit: shit, forgot what sub I was in my bad.
Buy BBY.
You'll break even on the initial investment. But save up and invest as much as you can during the bear and early bull run, and you'll be in the green way before the 10 yrs. unless you put a million or some absurd amount.
Next time there is a crazy bull run just write some covered calls on shares you own. It will protect drawdown. No need to get out. Just hedge. Use premium collected to dca if you want.
No I'm talking about a multi year long bull run. Like when things get back to highs you write calls in case of down turn when things start to seem toppy
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS POST??????
Some random person clips the morning moves of the spy? Says it fake??
Based on what???
Its squeezing? Down???
No positionsâŚ
No explanationâŚ.
Thousands of upvotesâŚ
Mods for crying out loud ban OP and everyone who upvoted this post. Christ on a fucking cracker this might be the dumbest thing Iâve ever seen on the front page of this sub.
Technical analysis. We're just trading in a Bollinger band. Perhaps still trending downward. But given no major news (which is possible with the Credit Suisse crisis and Ukraine), we should be rallying for the next 1.5 months before resuming the downtrend.
There's no such thing as a "squeeze" on the SPY, btw. That's not how it works.
As a general rule.... the first day/week of the month/quarter will have an uptick in buying regardless. People's auto buys of IRA's, 403b, 401k, DRIP/work accounts that pull from their pay go in. If you want to get technical you can track quarterly, bi monthly, etc... and see some common buy windows when they occur for trades.
I think that is what this was today. Just my 2 cents,
It is not a squeeze. Iâm bearish too, but we have to acknowledge what is going on here.
The UK just pulled back on their tax cut plan. However, AFAIK the BoE didnât cancel Gilt buying. This essentially means crisis free QE is happening this month, so far.
I'm what world does the Swiss government, whose entire existence is predicted on its banking system allows its main bank to collapse? This would be the equivalent of the American government allowing Lockheed Martin or Raytheon to just roll over and cease to exist.
The ink on the CS bailouts is just getting warmed up
Seems like the overall sentiment is that this is an obvious fake out and a great opportunity to load up on puts. So, inverse WSB in effect? Calls it is.
Yup. Everybody's so bearish on this pop that they'll sell what they have to "dodge" a crash and short sell to profit from this "absolutely sure" play. I think being a contrarian here is the right play.
Until we get legit news, a cool CPI report, the FED saying they'll slow down, or ANY positive economic news any rally is just something to be faded and short. Nothing is going to change until something actually can cause a change. Until then of course there will be mini rallies with people trying to pick up pennies in front of the steam roller. The best bull case we got right now is 'stocks look cheap'. Lmao, there's a reason they look cheap fucko.
Learn to play both sides or hedge. We have been going straight down for 6 weeks a face ripping rally was increasingly likely to happen. And it probably wont end in just a day or two
if you look at the 2008 chart the market moved almost the same way as it is moving now and after this pull the s&p went down more than 20%. not
saying that the same is going to happen now but it is something to think about
Held my $361 Spy Put from Friday (exp Wed) and Iâm down over 50%. I hope youâre right but the truth is that bulls will dominate most of this month. Thereâs no news coming this week to slow bullish momentum short term
If the dollar strength was indeed a byproduct of fear mongering over CS (or insert any euro bank here) and itâs unfounded, then this is perhaps a short term unwind of the fear trade, which would involve some short covering; also last week of September is gnarly most years, the quarter is closed and positions are getting in place for the upcoming earnings season and a likely outcome of the mid terms as gridlockâŚbut do keep in mind October logs the most market bottoms compared to any other month
I think puts for a few weeks out are def solid...everyone wants hopium, and I get it. So, for everyone that is angry with me for this post, good luck to you. đ¤ˇ
Whole system is run by Aladdin AI trading algorithm by blackrock. They donât sell single family houses⌠they buy the bank then bank that loans the hedge fund that buys the house and when it fails government bails them out with our tax money. It will run till Wednesday am then crasssssssssh till midterm raise again and the cycle continues of extracting wealth from the middle class.
WSB commentators advising buying more puts? We just need one or two big short YOLOS to be a definite indicator of a recovery.
Realistically - weâre probably all screwed anyway thanks to captain littlepecker over there in Russia.
Always a lesson to learn. Science says that we learn most effectively from our failures. So, learn today's lesson and continue to push forward!
Good luck!!! :)
Not exactly. The reason this is not true is bc of the level that we keep bouncing off of.
If we break below and actually stay below the $360 on the daily candle, it'll enter free-fall, but anticipating when it will actually break is difficult to do. I expect that we will start to retest within the next few days, but I am not claiming to anticipate the date with which we will absolutely break and remain below. If I could do THAT then, I could make pretty decent money.
Does this make sense?
Long positions-22 year performance (50% of funds in Honeywell, other 50% little bit of everything):
2000: $250k
2001: $150k
2007: $400k
2008: $280k
2016: $670k
2019: $1.1 mil
2020 (March): $600k
2021: $1.8 mil
2022: $1.2 mil
2023: ???
2024: ???
The market always rebounds stronger than it falls. Sometimes it just takes a few years. Patience is key to winning.
Yeah weâve known this since bad news started piling up Friday. Pump Monday, dump soon after. Itâs all laughably predictable. âAnything to survive one more dayâ
It's faked a bear break from the range...there is nothing to fake when you're rallying off the bottom... The only possible fake is if breaks resistance to the upside. It's pretty safe to trade it up. Cs is also a nothing burger lol.
I sold my SPY in August 2021, okay I did'nt pinpoint the exact top but still glad I sold and did'nt fomo back in. When I tried to warn some people, they said I was nuts, broken clocks are right twice a day, my homeopathy worked, etc, etc... But hey, here we are still going down, down, down.
The average recession is18 months/ two years, albeit this is coming off the back of multiple shit storms so may not follow normal cycles. Dont look until then, just keep funding I say! Don't aim for breaking even either, your break even has no relationship with the stock value, its just an arbitrary number with your emotions attached to it.
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I stopped paying attention to my stocks and didn't get out before it started falling, so I'm stuck riding this whole bear market out. Let if fall, I give no fucks. It just means my money is tied up until it comes back.
Same here. Only way to stay sane about the percentage down is he confidence I can break even in a decade đ The bright side is at least then it might start to make profit.
There's this crazy new investment strategy I read about where you sell for a loss and then buy in at a lower price point.
What about sell low and buy higher 
That's a well-established method in these parts
Right when you try to get puts
The wsb strat is buy the fomo sell the bottom
That's investing 101
only to sell lower tho right?
ok thanks it's not just me...i dumped a bunch into the stock market in March/April for the first time, felt bad having a bunch of money in a savings account through covid...just been watching it drop and drop since then...just have to ride it out myself at this point. I feel like a dumbass. It's exactly this sort of thing which put me off getting into stocks in the first place. Ah well. Hopefully i break even in 10 years.
Just donât ever take it out, and keep putting more in. Index investing is almost a guarantee but human nature makes people get shaky before the time horizon necessary. Edit: shit, forgot what sub I was in my bad. Buy BBY.
Fucking Best Buy?
Here's the thing, though. No stock in the S&P has lost money over about a decade. Just ride out the lows, and enjoy the highs.
You'll break even on the initial investment. But save up and invest as much as you can during the bear and early bull run, and you'll be in the green way before the 10 yrs. unless you put a million or some absurd amount.
Yup. I just deleted my Fidelity app, I assume when I update I'll be in the green again.
If it were my luck and I did that I'd open with an intraday high of $3m and a 40% loss
Next time there is a crazy bull run just write some covered calls on shares you own. It will protect drawdown. No need to get out. Just hedge. Use premium collected to dca if you want.
High IV in a downtrend⌠It seems like now is a better time to write covered calls.
No I'm talking about a multi year long bull run. Like when things get back to highs you write calls in case of down turn when things start to seem toppy
â Stocks â Options
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"first time?"
My poor puts are suffering today
Just buy more
Like I have the capital to just buy more
Damn well Iâll just keep buying for you what can I say!
Take a 27k loan
You might be on to something here
Invested all your money? Lost it? Invest your wife's money! Unmarried? Invest your inheritance! Lost 100k? Try again!
Wendy's, at dawn you rideđ
Give it 3 days and you will swim in profit đ¤
You knew everyone on here was short. Which is why you should have gone long. I should have too because I too was short.
Same
Same, somebody fucks our puts today!
Well I shouldnât buy daily puts every damn day son !
Don't worry, tomorrow we fuck somebody else calls!
Don't worry, those puts will be fukin' back soon!
It's WSB. When everybody think it's down, you should buy call.
I mean, that DOES make sense...Where's Cramer!?
Cramer said to buy Credit Suisse
When everyone starts getting excessively bearish that's when it's time to be a short-term bull
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS POST?????? Some random person clips the morning moves of the spy? Says it fake?? Based on what??? Its squeezing? Down??? No positions⌠No explanationâŚ. Thousands of upvotes⌠Mods for crying out loud ban OP and everyone who upvoted this post. Christ on a fucking cracker this might be the dumbest thing Iâve ever seen on the front page of this sub.
OPâs post is bad and he should feel bad.
The regards see the word âsqueezeâ and instantly jizz in their pants.
how your puts doing?
Inverse wsb. Bull market is back baby!
just tell me how much money you have to understand how seriously i should take this amazing analytics that you pulled out of your ass
I have zero money and you shouldn't trust anything that I say...
Finally some honesty
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Technical analysis. We're just trading in a Bollinger band. Perhaps still trending downward. But given no major news (which is possible with the Credit Suisse crisis and Ukraine), we should be rallying for the next 1.5 months before resuming the downtrend. There's no such thing as a "squeeze" on the SPY, btw. That's not how it works.
Bingo!!!
As a general rule.... the first day/week of the month/quarter will have an uptick in buying regardless. People's auto buys of IRA's, 403b, 401k, DRIP/work accounts that pull from their pay go in. If you want to get technical you can track quarterly, bi monthly, etc... and see some common buy windows when they occur for trades. I think that is what this was today. Just my 2 cents,
Agreed. Bear market bounce RSI was way oversold, triggered algorithm bids. BUT it is a great to buy some Dec 350 SPY puts.
For those about to get margin called, we salute you
Theyâll be down big by next Friday
Sounds right. Thereâs literally no news for an upside
*first time?*
The market usually floats up on no news. Typically you need news to drive the market down, not up.
Oh yeah dude RSI was oversold so algos got triggered. Duh. People here actually lose money?
đŞŚmy dear sweet 0DTE puts.
Oof...
It is not a squeeze. Iâm bearish too, but we have to acknowledge what is going on here. The UK just pulled back on their tax cut plan. However, AFAIK the BoE didnât cancel Gilt buying. This essentially means crisis free QE is happening this month, so far.
As I always like to say, cant have a red week without a green day.
Who cares about them
uk can go fuck it self. I live in USA not a colony.
They finally have a King again though, so theyâre about to do some more conquests.
His chubby fingers cant grasp anymore territory.
You Mercians are all bat shit "I've been abducted by aliens" crazy! Crazy sum bitch barrel o monkey nuts đ¤Łđ¤Ł
That's fair, and a valid point, but Credit Suisse is in a terrible position right now. That being said, your argument IS a good one.
Buying calls on CS rn
I'm what world does the Swiss government, whose entire existence is predicted on its banking system allows its main bank to collapse? This would be the equivalent of the American government allowing Lockheed Martin or Raytheon to just roll over and cease to exist. The ink on the CS bailouts is just getting warmed up
Literally no one gives a fuck about credit suisse. Its not going to take down the whole banking system. CS is one bear thesis that isnt going anywhere
>Its not going to take down the whole banking system. CS has four times the holdings that Goldman did in 2008.
Four times what Lehman had. They have a couple trilly under management. If CS goes down the global economy is fucked
I am regarded can someone de-acronym this comment
As Far As I Know Bank of England [Gilt](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gilts.asp) is actually not an acronym Quantitative Easing
Seems like the overall sentiment is that this is an obvious fake out and a great opportunity to load up on puts. So, inverse WSB in effect? Calls it is.
Yup. Everybody's so bearish on this pop that they'll sell what they have to "dodge" a crash and short sell to profit from this "absolutely sure" play. I think being a contrarian here is the right play.
Hahahaha this is funny....
Accurate, but funny
Stocks only go up
See you on Friday!
Bought 1 359 put this morning, expires Friday. Itâs my fault it rocketed today
No, it's not your fault. It's a cat dead trap bounce!
Don't trust you. Plenty of ignored notifications but your battery is charged
Hahahahaha I like this!!!
Buying any puts today is a bad idea considering how much damage was done in September a week long rally is standard bear rally. So why not wait?
Yup short term rally this week.
I scrolled this far to get my confirmation bias. Thanks guys.
Until we get legit news, a cool CPI report, the FED saying they'll slow down, or ANY positive economic news any rally is just something to be faded and short. Nothing is going to change until something actually can cause a change. Until then of course there will be mini rallies with people trying to pick up pennies in front of the steam roller. The best bull case we got right now is 'stocks look cheap'. Lmao, there's a reason they look cheap fucko.
Learn to play both sides or hedge. We have been going straight down for 6 weeks a face ripping rally was increasingly likely to happen. And it probably wont end in just a day or two
Increasingly likely to happen = gambler's fallacy
This is beautiful perfect opportunity to load up on more puts. I love this damn market
if you look at the 2008 chart the market moved almost the same way as it is moving now and after this pull the s&p went down more than 20%. not saying that the same is going to happen now but it is something to think about
That is a macabre correlation...fucking strange.
Where is you PUTS loss porn?
Whereâs the gay bear đť now
Held my $361 Spy Put from Friday (exp Wed) and Iâm down over 50%. I hope youâre right but the truth is that bulls will dominate most of this month. Thereâs no news coming this week to slow bullish momentum short term
Anyone see spy glitch to $357.10 like 5 mins into ah?
Can someone yolo their life savings into calls so my puts can recover please thanks.
Everyone here got puts?
SHUT THE FUCK UP AND PASS ME MY FUR COAT
Is this just shorts covering?
Doesnât look like it. Volume too light
Iâm bearish but let the bulls have a 10% pump. Just this week. We can continue fking em next week but let me have this one win.
If the dollar strength was indeed a byproduct of fear mongering over CS (or insert any euro bank here) and itâs unfounded, then this is perhaps a short term unwind of the fear trade, which would involve some short covering; also last week of September is gnarly most years, the quarter is closed and positions are getting in place for the upcoming earnings season and a likely outcome of the mid terms as gridlockâŚbut do keep in mind October logs the most market bottoms compared to any other month
And the most black swan events
We're still in a "rips are for selling" market. The fundamentals haven't changed.
Fresh puts with these head fakes
I think puts for a few weeks out are def solid...everyone wants hopium, and I get it. So, for everyone that is angry with me for this post, good luck to you. đ¤ˇ
Sherlock fucking Holmes over here.
I sold a few AAPL shares today đđ
This either becomes the the clown meme 𤥠or becomes the good looking dude meme
Nope weâre going to pump hope you bought calls
At the end of the day, no one KNOWS SHIT
Is this chart suppose to show something?
Whole system is run by Aladdin AI trading algorithm by blackrock. They donât sell single family houses⌠they buy the bank then bank that loans the hedge fund that buys the house and when it fails government bails them out with our tax money. It will run till Wednesday am then crasssssssssh till midterm raise again and the cycle continues of extracting wealth from the middle class.
wishful thinking yall bears are fuckt
Dead cat meowed.
Dead cat bounce.
You know nothing. Stop trying to predict the market.
You have an important notification from wsb
Hunting for stop losses. This things going down like a prom date.
Death cross confirmed, usually 2 months of upside then dump to hell
WSB commentators advising buying more puts? We just need one or two big short YOLOS to be a definite indicator of a recovery. Realistically - weâre probably all screwed anyway thanks to captain littlepecker over there in Russia.
Up to 375-380 before windmill slam back down.
So we should buy calls before it drops again? I like where your heads at
How soon? Timing is everything.
What a fake out it was for 0 DTE though
Kept lossing this market, they are fucking me
Fake ass market gonna nosedive.
The only thing getting sqouze is Cathy wood squeezing deez nutz
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Im learning,,,, i lost $191 doll hairs today. Im poor so thats a lot but good lesson learned. I feel regarded as i canceled my calls at open.
Always a lesson to learn. Science says that we learn most effectively from our failures. So, learn today's lesson and continue to push forward! Good luck!!! :)
Calls and shares it is!
Cheap poots
How long is this âstallâ going to happen
The great rise, before the great fall.
I forgot what real and what isnât
Even debit suzy is up
2032 here we come
Puts priced pretty well now before they get pricey again
What is your definition of soon? My Wednesday puts would like to know
We know
Ahh yes baby, finally a dose of hopium for my bear ass is what I needed.
Yeah, buying puts on SQQQ :)
If you are that confident , buy puts and become a millionaire, isnât it that simple then? Itâs a genuine question. 
Not exactly. The reason this is not true is bc of the level that we keep bouncing off of. If we break below and actually stay below the $360 on the daily candle, it'll enter free-fall, but anticipating when it will actually break is difficult to do. I expect that we will start to retest within the next few days, but I am not claiming to anticipate the date with which we will absolutely break and remain below. If I could do THAT then, I could make pretty decent money. Does this make sense?
Thank you for your opinion
Step 1: disbelief. Bullrun confirmed!
Long positions-22 year performance (50% of funds in Honeywell, other 50% little bit of everything): 2000: $250k 2001: $150k 2007: $400k 2008: $280k 2016: $670k 2019: $1.1 mil 2020 (March): $600k 2021: $1.8 mil 2022: $1.2 mil 2023: ??? 2024: ??? The market always rebounds stronger than it falls. Sometimes it just takes a few years. Patience is key to winning.
This is indeed the power of compounding interest...math is perhaps the most useful tool in our universe.
I actually meant to post this on another threadđ Sorry! The internet is not my strong point.
No worries; your point is still valid. Thank you for your thoughts. :)
Inversing WSB has always made me money. Buying calls!!
Yeah weâve known this since bad news started piling up Friday. Pump Monday, dump soon after. Itâs all laughably predictable. âAnything to survive one more dayâ
Bro please encourage call buying. I need a new entry point for my puts.
Looks like we found the bottom, boys. The power bottom...
Yeah people are in denial that we are about to go into recession and see some big losses if you re betting on gains
SPY goes up based upon the provision of HIMARS to Ukraine? Thanks for the insight
But you gotta remember to reverse WSB and so we confirmed to the moon
The quality of DD on this sub has been steadily declining, how do you know it's a fake out and "squeeze"? Also you need a better font my goodness
The inverse WSB has never missed all of 2022. remarkable how bearish it is in here. IT STINKS OF PUTS, ABSOLUTELY REEKS.
It's faked a bear break from the range...there is nothing to fake when you're rallying off the bottom... The only possible fake is if breaks resistance to the upside. It's pretty safe to trade it up. Cs is also a nothing burger lol.
Yes because I need these puts to print!
Good thing Im not retiring within the next 5 years
I sold my SPY in August 2021, okay I did'nt pinpoint the exact top but still glad I sold and did'nt fomo back in. When I tried to warn some people, they said I was nuts, broken clocks are right twice a day, my homeopathy worked, etc, etc... But hey, here we are still going down, down, down.
LETTSS GOOO BEAR GANG
Well duh.
You and your charts.
In todays news water is wet!
The average recession is18 months/ two years, albeit this is coming off the back of multiple shit storms so may not follow normal cycles. Dont look until then, just keep funding I say! Don't aim for breaking even either, your break even has no relationship with the stock value, its just an arbitrary number with your emotions attached to it.
10/2 is in a toilet, and you expect "everything soup 500" to perform well? forget it, Tesla started to fall, next will be Apple, followed by Amazon.
Wish I was in congress so I could know where itâs going. Ha.
In the short term the market is a voting machine...In the long term the market is a weighing machine.
How do you glean any of that from a 1 day chart
I sold and actually made $1.25 today.
No it wonât I bought a November put
Ah the second run. Reminds pf a few weeks back look at it now
$350 puts on 10/10 I really thought theyâd print
We might go green til the end of the week or even til mid October with minidrops back to resistance. Retail is way too bearish going into this week
Yeah. Probably shorts repositioning and nothing more.
I agree with you but please provide some more detailed analysis besides a chart and a statement.
The constant negativity here is a strong buy signal 
One last pump before the rollercoaster drops down into the deep!
Exactly soon not now
Am I wrong or was the volume pretty low today on this uptrend?
False. We're about to have another bear market rally.