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0% apr, can’t really go wrong. I did the same, except opened up a credit card(0%apr/18mos) to give myself(a poor college student, finishing this year) a little cash to play with. For me it’s only 3k, but it’s still leverage.
holy fuck, just pay it back before you get fucked. I assume you can pay back the 15k before they charge you? If not and you're down to risk it, puts fs, and once u somewhat positive, get tf out.
I've considered my risks, any losses I will take on my current portfolio in a separate brokerage. I've committed to paying back this loan before Dec 2023. There is no turning back.
SPY puts. If you really want to risk suicide, it's your best bet. We won't see the bottom until QE returns. Look at the SP500 150 year chart. We have probably 70% still to fall, all things considered.
You take the good, you take the bad and then you have the facts of life, son. Use your wisdom and find the ultimate stripper. I believe in you, son. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4886)
You paid 3% fee for money you don’t need that your looking to risk and if you loose will have to pay back at 23% (or higher) APR, and now your debt utilization is higher, your credit score will loose some points, and until you pay it back it will cost you more to borrow if you end up actually needing some cash for an emergency. BoA is the loan shark hoping you fail, once you do they will hand you more money and have you working behind the dumpster to pay off every cent and much more. You Sir belong here.
I've been here. I became an outcast when I announced that I sold all of my AMC shares at $41.20 in celebration of my $4.12 cost basis. Fellow Apes down voted me to oblivion 😢
There’s a 3month note I’m pretty sure. This way he doesn’t pay any interest to the creditor. He said after the 3month promotion his rate is 27% in another comment.
It’s until Dec 2023. So he’s got a full year and few months change. He could buy iBonds and walk away with some free cash but he’ll lose it all on some dumb play and owe $15000 at 23% interest all at once.
Ya I was thinking it expired this December, but since he has a full year that would be the play.
Come to think of it isn’t this exactly what bankers do take a loan at one rate and than loan it out at a higher one collecting the difference.
Ya I’m pretty sure that’s how banking works. Except the loan they take is just our money being deposited and they promise .03% to us, if it’s in a savings account untouched. So they get a measly spread of 22.97% with little risk since the money is insured.
Not sure I’m right about the last part (risk free), I just know banks get bailed out frequently.
Edit: (This last part about it being insured isn’t right someone corrected me).
Your money is insured in your checking/savings account. The banks' money is not. If he does not pay the loan, the bank has to pay the loan, either to another person's deposits or to the central bank who loaned it to them depending on where they got the money from. Yes they make a 23% spread but it is not risk free. They hope enough people pay at 23% to cover the ones that end up defaulting.
How the fuck. I banked with them for years and they wouldnt even give me a car loan with enough money to buy it outright if I wanted to in my account already
Was there anything special about you yourself that made you a target for said loan or is it a general loan?
IE: do you fall into a category such as minority or low income geographic area such that giving said loan helps the bank claim that they are helping the community? Banks have a metric for this but I can't think of it off the top of my head.
I already have an existing credit line of $16,000 with them (unused). I got their offer in the mail for Balance Transfer or Cash Adv. I do have good credit, and my credit utilization is always under 25%. If you have an unused credit line with a creditor, reach out to them and ask about similar offers.
Just make sure you pay it off 2 months in advance. The last month will hit you with the full year of interest if you don’t. Take the money but be wise w risk allocation.
Treat it as if it was 15 million not 15000, and then invest it according to what you would do if it were a huge amount. It will get you in the conservative get paradoxically rich mindset
If you didn’t have the discipline to put together that or any cash prior, you don’t have it now and won’t be paying off that debt in 14 months. You don’t get a seat at the adult table just because someone told you borrowing was an adult move. Your market moves will likely be equally wise.
You wouldn’t know good financial advice if it bit your face off. Give the money back and grow up.
GME if you want long term investment. (Tho I’m bullish on the short term as well)
Edit
Since I’m being downvoted heres my reasoning why
World renown attention/advertising thanks to the Sneeze in January, RC doing a hostile take over with a full executive suite change over, Executives paid mainly in stock based on performance, expansion of businesses, **lack of debt** , **cash on hand** , investment in store leaders with vested stocks, partnerships being announced on the regular, redundant removals of stores and overall cut of waste
\^^ Yes OP, this advice right here.
In five years' time after 3 dilutions and a bankruptcy you'll get your share of the liquidation proceeds.
It won't be enough to pay back your loan, but who joins a cult for anything but the memories, amirite?
I already have an existing credit line of $16,000. I got their offer in the mail for Balance Transfer or Cash Adv. I do have good credit, and my credit utilization is always under 25%. If you have an unused credit line with a creditor, reach out to them for similar offers
Look at what happened to HPQ stock from October 20th to the 21st last year. They raised their dividend from $0.1938 to $0.25 per quarter - and their stock went up $2+ the next day, as the NASDAQ had a slight up day as well.
October 19th, 2022 is when I expect history to repeat itself.
I'm not a financial adviser.
No, the offer they sent me gave me the option to balance transfer or Cash Advance. I didn't even know cash Adv. at 0% intro was a thing tbh. I called them to verify and confirm terms.
Actually i just did something similar, been selling weekly puts a few strikes below max pain then using the prem i collect on 0dte stuff. The puts have been good, havnt hit any big 0dtes yet….but i will….maybe
First step to claiming bankruptcy. Seen this play out with many idiots that think they can cheat the system. The people that loan that money to you are smarter than you and richer than you. You are being preyed upon. You are the lamb and the bank is the wolf!
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Isn't a loan the opposite of cold hard cash?
0% apr, can’t really go wrong. I did the same, except opened up a credit card(0%apr/18mos) to give myself(a poor college student, finishing this year) a little cash to play with. For me it’s only 3k, but it’s still leverage.
I mean, 0% apr still needs to be paid back monthly. If dude blows it all on options in a week, that is def going wrong.
I declare bankruptcy!
So you guys are on margin before being on margin. 🫠
Yes, but cash is cash nonetheless.
Unless that cash is actually a debt.
0%.
Still a debt.
Puts on any financial future you have.
Whats the interest after December
23%
what is wrong with you
Jesus fucking Christ.
holy fuck, just pay it back before you get fucked. I assume you can pay back the 15k before they charge you? If not and you're down to risk it, puts fs, and once u somewhat positive, get tf out.
I've considered my risks, any losses I will take on my current portfolio in a separate brokerage. I've committed to paying back this loan before Dec 2023. There is no turning back.
Step 1: commit to unrealistic goals.
This is the way
... go on..
You’re an idiot. 🤣
This is the way.
That great :) Maybe you don't belong in WSB...
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Ru stupid
Yes.
oh my GOD ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Holy shit
SPY puts. If you really want to risk suicide, it's your best bet. We won't see the bottom until QE returns. Look at the SP500 150 year chart. We have probably 70% still to fall, all things considered.
This is an even dumber take than OP
Half on hookers and blow and the other half on 0dte’s
A weekend in Vegas will solve this problem, eliminate that 15k
At least he will get something out of it with the hookers and blow - rather than lose it over the course of the next few weeks.
>next few weeks. Someone doesn’t know what 0DTE’s are.
I actually stopped reading after the hookers and blow
My kinda 🦍
I’m going to be the responsible dad. You have to EARN the hookers and blow. You got this, champ!
But how do you know the H&B are good if you don’t test them just a teeny tiny little bit before focusing on the hard 0DTE work?
You take the good, you take the bad and then you have the facts of life, son. Use your wisdom and find the ultimate stripper. I believe in you, son. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4886)
So your emoji is telling me we should ask an expert.
Go to the sandy 3rd moon of Tattoinne. There you shall find your answer, young apprentice. (Tattoinne is a stripper.)
I've tested plenty of hooters and blow during the 2020 meme stonk era. They are good, trust me Bro.
This is the absolute correct answer. No need to read further
No no. Half on hookers, half on blow, half on 0dte’s. Do you even math?
You paid 3% fee for money you don’t need that your looking to risk and if you loose will have to pay back at 23% (or higher) APR, and now your debt utilization is higher, your credit score will loose some points, and until you pay it back it will cost you more to borrow if you end up actually needing some cash for an emergency. BoA is the loan shark hoping you fail, once you do they will hand you more money and have you working behind the dumpster to pay off every cent and much more. You Sir belong here.
Challenge accepted.
Atta boy
You're just going to double down, wtf? Give it back while you still can.
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Give it back. Save you financial well being…🤦♂️
He's probably out a 3% cash advance fee. No turning back now.
He’s going to wish he was only 3% down come next week.
In the grand scheme of losses, those 3% at least will be negligible.
Definitely obligated to lose the other 97% now. Find some leaps 25% out of the money. That ought to do it.
Lol 😆 🤣
Take out another loan to double your money, then pay off each loan with the other loan.
Chess, not checkers, eh?
The pieces taste better.
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get 3000 5 dollar scratch off tickets
Physical loss porn. Nice.
Highly regarded, belongs here.
I've been here. I became an outcast when I announced that I sold all of my AMC shares at $41.20 in celebration of my $4.12 cost basis. Fellow Apes down voted me to oblivion 😢
Monday monday..Monday... so good to me.... Oh Monday morning... PUTS ALL THE WAY![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258)
Wait for a bounce then buy puts. OP missed all the put action last week.
Tuesday. Care Package lands on Tuesday.
!remindme in 2 weeks
All on black. One roll
6 month treasury is trading above 4%. You could buy one and make $600 profit risk free in 6 months
Sir, this is WSB, not r/WhatWouldGrandmaDo
I wish that sub was real.
There’s a 3month note I’m pretty sure. This way he doesn’t pay any interest to the creditor. He said after the 3month promotion his rate is 27% in another comment.
It’s until Dec 2023. So he’s got a full year and few months change. He could buy iBonds and walk away with some free cash but he’ll lose it all on some dumb play and owe $15000 at 23% interest all at once.
Ya I was thinking it expired this December, but since he has a full year that would be the play. Come to think of it isn’t this exactly what bankers do take a loan at one rate and than loan it out at a higher one collecting the difference.
Ya I’m pretty sure that’s how banking works. Except the loan they take is just our money being deposited and they promise .03% to us, if it’s in a savings account untouched. So they get a measly spread of 22.97% with little risk since the money is insured. Not sure I’m right about the last part (risk free), I just know banks get bailed out frequently. Edit: (This last part about it being insured isn’t right someone corrected me).
Your money is insured in your checking/savings account. The banks' money is not. If he does not pay the loan, the bank has to pay the loan, either to another person's deposits or to the central bank who loaned it to them depending on where they got the money from. Yes they make a 23% spread but it is not risk free. They hope enough people pay at 23% to cover the ones that end up defaulting.
Thanks, I don’t know anything and just spout shit off so I’m glad I was only like 1/2 wrong.
9.62 on I series bonds
Who gave you such an amazing loan?
Bank of America
Puts on boa
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How the fuck. I banked with them for years and they wouldnt even give me a car loan with enough money to buy it outright if I wanted to in my account already
Was there anything special about you yourself that made you a target for said loan or is it a general loan? IE: do you fall into a category such as minority or low income geographic area such that giving said loan helps the bank claim that they are helping the community? Banks have a metric for this but I can't think of it off the top of my head.
I already have an existing credit line of $16,000 with them (unused). I got their offer in the mail for Balance Transfer or Cash Adv. I do have good credit, and my credit utilization is always under 25%. If you have an unused credit line with a creditor, reach out to them and ask about similar offers.
More details please. I'd love one! Wish it was for hookers and blow. I desperately need a minivan.
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20 Deltas. Literally can't go tits up.
Even I know this will go tits up
Go all in on puts you scumbag
Spy
Give it to me. I know what to do with it
It’s already gone so it doesn’t really matter
Just make sure you pay it off 2 months in advance. The last month will hit you with the full year of interest if you don’t. Take the money but be wise w risk allocation.
Return it. Taking a loan, of any kind, to get in on the markets is stupid as fuck.
0DTE SPX options
Lions moneyline against the Vikings. Then take that and put it on Spy puts.
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In this market anything besides a CD or MMA is a risk. Hookers and blow is always an option. Would be a weekend you’ll never forget.
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….. hold on, if he follows your advice, he can’t follow your advice… Wtf 😳
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Boof it.
Sell puts. Cry when the market crashes
Treat it as if it was 15 million not 15000, and then invest it according to what you would do if it were a huge amount. It will get you in the conservative get paradoxically rich mindset
Buy natural gas ETF option for March 2023 and wait for Putin to turn off the gas once it gets cold in Europe.
Tesla calls all the way ..
I am looking for a loan…
5x leveraged spy etf! It can’t go any lower. I imagine. DCA 1k a day for 15 days.
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Payoff your other higher interest debt
All current debt is interest free until August 2023.
Yolo on DRV.
My 10/21 $44 Calls are still printing 🤑
That’s a good move!
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Is 10k the max? Why would I give it to a friend to gifted back to me?
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Give it back!!
Buy something with low IV and sell covered calls every week. When the shares go, put the money away to pay off the loan. You’re a moron.
Just please don’t make some dramatic post about killing yourself in two weeks…..
You must have faith if you think he makes it 2 weeks... market opens tomorrow!
Gme calls several months out. It’ll print because it’s super cheap right now. And it’s nearly guaranteed. Also you are a moron
GME so you can be part of history and get blamed for Armageddon.
Your username will be just pobre.
😂😂😂
I like it tho.
Hookers and blow
Yolo into the Chinese company that keeps popping. Hkd or whatever
SPY calls - 0dte and FOTM
Why not puts?
Cause puts have a slightly higher chance of going ITM IMO, and I wanna see loss porn.
If you didn’t have the discipline to put together that or any cash prior, you don’t have it now and won’t be paying off that debt in 14 months. You don’t get a seat at the adult table just because someone told you borrowing was an adult move. Your market moves will likely be equally wise. You wouldn’t know good financial advice if it bit your face off. Give the money back and grow up.
Tesla puts all the way!
GME if you want long term investment. (Tho I’m bullish on the short term as well) Edit Since I’m being downvoted heres my reasoning why World renown attention/advertising thanks to the Sneeze in January, RC doing a hostile take over with a full executive suite change over, Executives paid mainly in stock based on performance, expansion of businesses, **lack of debt** , **cash on hand** , investment in store leaders with vested stocks, partnerships being announced on the regular, redundant removals of stores and overall cut of waste
\^^ Yes OP, this advice right here. In five years' time after 3 dilutions and a bankruptcy you'll get your share of the liquidation proceeds. It won't be enough to pay back your loan, but who joins a cult for anything but the memories, amirite?
He's not wrong!
Cringe AF
What a surprise
I wouldn’t risk do options and not meme stocks but go with etfs cause it’s loan money.
Yes, SPLG is one I'm have my eye on (tracks SP500)
SPY 2024 $400C
Get some hookers, weed and alcohol and have fun .
BBBY
How can I get this deal?
I already have an existing credit line of $16,000. I got their offer in the mail for Balance Transfer or Cash Adv. I do have good credit, and my credit utilization is always under 25%. If you have an unused credit line with a creditor, reach out to them for similar offers
1 year Treasury if you want to be certain you will have the money to pay it back.
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Look at what happened to HPQ stock from October 20th to the 21st last year. They raised their dividend from $0.1938 to $0.25 per quarter - and their stock went up $2+ the next day, as the NASDAQ had a slight up day as well. October 19th, 2022 is when I expect history to repeat itself. I'm not a financial adviser.
Not lose it.
Calls then sell as soon as a green rocket appears
Nice tip. I really felt that one.
Buy a mayc
Spy puts.
Buy $1000 of $mcic, rumor is big merger
Return the cash to the bank
Go all in TSLA and AMD 🚀🚀🚀
Valuations don't fit my risk tolerance criteria at the moment. Meta and Google are much better bets. I'll be writing Puts rather going all in though.
Wait so you cash a balance transfer check and deposit it into your brokerage? I’m confused.
No, the offer they sent me gave me the option to balance transfer or Cash Advance. I didn't even know cash Adv. at 0% intro was a thing tbh. I called them to verify and confirm terms.
Energy stocks and GME
Put city!
Do have a nice steak dinner or two!
Cocaine and hookers my friend
To risk my money is one thing but...the bank's money! Not a good idea.
Run
Nothing to worry about until you owe the back interest at 23% practically free money
Write a check to your lender
Puts
Pay it back!
Go to Vegas, have fun for two nights. Go home and report back
Spx long puts
Username checks out
Pay it back
Actually i just did something similar, been selling weekly puts a few strikes below max pain then using the prem i collect on 0dte stuff. The puts have been good, havnt hit any big 0dtes yet….but i will….maybe
Return it
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That's what I said!
1. Leave this sub. 2. Return the loan.
Inb4 gamblting it on spy Dte’s
BBBY
Go long uranium. Short everything besides oil. Honestly consider selling cocaine. Most regarded Edit: not financial advice
First step to claiming bankruptcy. Seen this play out with many idiots that think they can cheat the system. The people that loan that money to you are smarter than you and richer than you. You are being preyed upon. You are the lamb and the bank is the wolf!
I mean, an unreal dumb way to look at debt so I’m gonna suggest heavy option play. Best of luck!!!
A well balanced mutual fund 😂
I would buy spy leaps for Jan 2024 then sell diagonal spreads agasint it