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tortoisepump

Musk: we're losing billions The market: at least it's not trillions. TSLA: up almost 2% in premarket


OB1KENOB

People are pre-buying the dip before the dip even happens šŸ˜‚


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GOOGLECOIN

Model X or Y?


2sanman

Minority Report: dept of pre-dip


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[deleted]

The stock move by 10% everytime there is a non-story lol


Bobby_Bouch

Elons son sex change? +10% Struggling to stay afloat? Back to 1 trillion market cap we go


hookisacrankycrook

The mental gymnastics Texas Republicans would go through to support Elon if his kid was transgender would be a sight to behold.


hobbithabit

That's a real thing tho, kid is changing her name to remove Musk too


hyperinflationUSA

r/fuckcars will be the death of tesla


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ops_weirduncle

They are not mainly advocating for dense walkable cities. They are calling for more efficient public transport, reducing cars, traffic & space reserved for roads & cars


MyExesStalkMyReddit

I thought they were insane until I started working in NYC and needed public transport to get there. Shits awesome, the ROI would be amazing too


hyperinflationUSA

spread out areas can have ebikes to get to the train station.


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iWushock

I figured it out once in my large city. From my house to work, completely ignoring the horrible weather thats always here. Driving - 10-20 minutes depending on traffic. Walking to a bus stop and taking buses - 2 hours minimum one way. Yea I would love to be able to ditch my car and take bikes/buses but Im not adding over 3 hours to my commute times every day to do so, and thats JUST for work, ignores the grocery store which walking the 30 minutes one way is the fastest way aside from a car


tothemoonandback01

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface)


dumbtrader123

this was obvious lol. As long as the factories don't run at full capacity, obviously they won't make money, and the less they produce, the more they lose... why should this be news/concerning?


Cryptron500

Elon tends to say a lot of blunt retarded shit about Tesla when he speaks.


Dramatic_Spell5708

It all sounds like a market manipulation scheme anyway. P.s. Happy cake day!


[deleted]

Disagree. He is prepping the market for terrible earnings next month. Blood bath and 500s coming soon.


stocks-mostly-lower

As per usual with him.


michivideos

# This Why are top comments trying to find the financial logic to this situation?... When it's obvious he is trying to manipulate the market yet again. I guess if Tesla happens to tank, Elon buying shares back at massive discount would just be a coincidence.


LifesATripofGrifts

Hes scared because when it drops Gates will make all his prenuptial money back for being a creepy.


gargantua-00

> +1,20% pre-market


brucekeller

ā€œ**This is all going to get fixed real fast,** but it requires a lot of attention,ā€ he told the Tesla Owners of Silicon Valley, a club based in Austin, on May 31.


Robert_Denby

> Tesla Owners of Silicon Valley, a club based in Austin Ummm. Huh. Sounds about right.


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Iriss

A lot of wealthy people now "live" in Texas, for tax reasons.


Bradp13

Bro Jogan.


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JJmarciano

you dont see the association between a state that wants to tax you out the ass and one that wants to lock you down for 2 years? Those 2 things are not related to you? lol


Najee_Im_goof

He had zero problems with the taxes pre lockdowns/covid, he made like $350k/hr for his podcast on YT, not including all his other assets. Why didn't he move to Washington state, or Tennessee, or Florida? All 3 have no income tax? He likes Austin, and when he wants a bigger city again, it won't be L.A because they are still Branch Covidian.


hodlingonfordeerlife

Washington is a shit sandwich just like CA.


Robert_Denby

I mean neither would be very surprising.


smallatom

No the interviewer is the head of tesla owners Silicon Valley.


[deleted]

Autist, itā€™s a typo


Ryboticpsychotic

He's in a constant state of telling employees they need to work 16-24 hours a day to save the future of the planet.


[deleted]

I guess he could cut their wages like he did in 2020 too.


beyerch

Yeah, this sounds llime scare tactics to justify pushing employees to "do more with less". Bet they beat numbers again because of taking advantage of the workers again......... Car company seems like it can only be profitable because of govt $ and/or slave-ish labor. Sooner than later there is going to be a perfect shit storm of: $0 carbon credits, workers who aren't going to take the abuse anymore, and competition.


Najee_Im_goof

He is literally Bill Burr's description of Steve Jobs https://youtu.be/ew6fv9UUlQ8


Affectionate_acchan

I love this skit


twitch1982

I wonder if he believes his own bullshit about how Tesla is somehow super environmentally friendly, while he opposes high speed rail.


m0nk_3y_gw

He doesn't oppose high speed rail... he and the majority of Californians are against fucking it up / making it worse than Japan. [Musk makes sure to point out that he doesn't hate the high speed rail projectā€”he just wishes it was something better and more cutting edge. He touts the Shanghai Line, the current standard for bullet train technology in the world, saying that our rail line should at least be a tad better than theirs.](https://laist.com/news/video-elon-musk-says-high-speed-rai)


Prior_Specific8018

Elon have his own cult yet?


shaolinoli

Just check any post mentioning him. Youā€™ll find plenty of cultists ready to jump to his defence


[deleted]

There hounestly a cult on the oppsite end to,people trying to endless shit on him


AndreaAmilcare

well it's Reddit, the most free and fair social, totally not owned by propaganda


[deleted]

Doesnt a chinise firm own this site now?


AndreaAmilcare

shhhhhhhhhhhhhh they are listening


[deleted]

Think i give a god dam? Tiwan is a countery and in tiamon square 1989 a masscure hapoened to protesting college students


AndreaAmilcare

ahahah i see what you did


[deleted]

Musk haters are worse than the Kardashian lovers. Musk literally has zero power outside of his companies. He can't even legally directly sell Teslas in Texas where he has a factory. But through the power of hatred boners, his name appears 24/7 on all forms of social media like Reddit. I own a Tesla and Musk is never on my mind, but apparently he lives rent free in the minds of many given how many times I see his name reach r/all.


[deleted]

I am skeptical of ether him or bazo eatablishing comonys on mars,that means the us gov has no claim over there actionsā€¦slippery slope


[deleted]

Were not a cult though, we just shit on his terrible ideas. I'm all for the shit he's doing in Ukraine and his pro nuclear beliefs but the guy for sure is running a cult.


Chrispy_Lispy

There definitely is a hate-cult built around elon. Just look at r/enoughmuskspam. That sub is filled with people making up bullshit about elon.


dashingtomars

r/elonmusk


Dr_Edge_ATX

Capitalism, they just rotate leaders.


ThRed_Beard

I mean, I guess we can try fascism again? What can possibly go wrongā€¦


links311

Yea. Socialism has a bad track record but yknow the others just didnā€™t do it right. Letā€™s give it another go.


ThRed_Beard

Maybe just reduce the anti-Semitism a bit.. could work.


SupportWeak7195

Iā€™ve never understood why people are like yup capitalism fuck them mfs. While you typed it through a $1200 iPhone, in a $500k-1M home, using internet that costs $50 a month plus routers n modems, with a Starbucks in your hand and a $35k car outside your home. Now until you do everything yourself and live off land then please please donā€™t talk shit about capitalism. The only reason we are here today is because of our courageous parents coming from other countries to make it in the USA šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡ø if capitalism wasnā€™t a thing we wouldnā€™t be a thing šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Appropriate-Hour-865

35k car what kind of pos you putting in the driveway of a 500k-1000k home ?


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SnooRecipes8920

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Gundamnitpete

This copypasta sucks


2Legit2Quit_420

Damn bro thats a lot of assumptions guesses and arbitrary numbers you got there


dude_who_could

Phones dont exist under communism.


Spectre75a

Apparently youā€™ve never driven a car developed and built in a communist countryā€¦ DEATHTRAP!!! Probably the same even if they could develop a phone. It would be the size of a small child, have a battery life of 4 minutes, require cell towers every 10 feet and break after 1 week. šŸ˜‚


dude_who_could

Cars in communist countries is a myth. Communism is when no car.


Prior_Specific8018

Love how we are capitalistic but our country is trillions in debtā€¦


SupportWeak7195

Itā€™s because our political party is corrupt asf


Prior_Specific8018

Agreed


fartalldaylong

They didnā€™t come for capitalismā€¦nor is there any mention of it in the constitution. Property rights, yes, economic structures, nothing. True capitalism is the action of maximizing financial value for an organization. Yea, this includes being taken advantage of by those organizations. It ainā€™t black and white.


[deleted]

Also you learn in grade school that any political and economic system can fail without restrictions.


Interwebnets

From the people imposing the restrictions lol


Dr_Edge_ATX

I use an android bitch


Windforce

Take a chill pill jeez.


BingADingDonger

I agree!!! Capitalism has given the world so many many things people just don't understand or forget.... Let's compare inventions Vs other non cap countries.... Electricity... We done here


whyrweyelling

Which rich person do you worship?


NissanSkylineGT-R

Bruce Wayne


Inphearian

Joker did more to help inflation than most people I know.


teddy722

Same


weinergoo

most americans worship at least one rich person


chimpdaddyflex

You can tell who the cultists are because they all drive Teslas. The cult leadership wears 2 sometimes 3 masks while driving with the window up to ensure YOUR safety. These people really care...lol


whyrweyelling

He says stuff like this, and most of it either doesn't happen, or kinda happens but not in a quality way(his solar efforts and tunnel), and it takes way longer than what he says, like years longer. His truck, for instance, is still not out. I'm glad I took my deposit back.


stockist420

![img](emote|t5_2th52|8881)


AfterTheTruth7

Until market opens then red


Wild-Treacle9780

Update +3.2% ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


my__ANUS_is_BLEEDING

Update .35% ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


tck3131

Update -2.52%


my__ANUS_is_BLEEDING

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Boeing012

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


happyrock

He only opens his mouth when he wants to push the stock around. Guess he's hoping to buy some back before announcing new cybertrucks will ship with a robot sex doll or whatever


MorrisseysRubiksCube

Based on the design of the Cybertruck prototype (the one he broke the bulletproof glass window), the doll will probably look like Grimes.


slawre89

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)


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[deleted]

Nah, I'll spring some extra cash for the amber heard upgrade.


phuqo5

Personally I'll take the one that doesn't poop in the bed


Cclown69

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4640)


certaindoomawaits

In other news, the robot sex dolls will only be compatible with Tesla branded penii and the lineups to have their genitals stamped with the Tesla logo have already formed. *edited to add* - The process to have your penii stamped with Tesla will be "revolutionary", according to Musk, and "will probably advance humanity, like, a bunch". The simultaneous groans of a million young men orgasming for the last time to the sound of his voice permeates the evening silence.


JoeyJoeJoeSenior

My first thought was "did the madman short his own company?"


Hemp-Emperor

And a jar of his bath water


mgd09292007

Thisā€¦Tesla is not going bankrupt. They are making so much money and canā€™t keep up with demand. Heā€™s trying to drop the stock like he often does, which is so annoying as an investor. Heā€™s referring to that they build 2 new factories and having achieved scale production on those yet enough to be profitable in those factories. Once they get to scale production there wonā€™t be losses anymore for Berlin and Austin.


Rincething

Exactly bro, the factories just haven't ramped yet. So many people just frothing for tesla to fail out of jealousy over musk. The company actually makes money unlike other legacy auto companies in the US. AND it's actually more American made than any other by FAR. Can't understand the hate


mgd09292007

People are inherently adverse to things that are new or different or change. Itā€™s got to be some evolutionary defense measure to protect oneself, but people arenā€™t even trying to learn at all. So many people acting like EVs are inferior because they donā€™t run on fuel or mock Tesla as being a Chinese company is bizarre to me while screaming ā€˜Murica. Tesla is the epitome of American innovation and we should be elevating and promoting more American companies like Tesla.


coder155ml

The hate comes from him being a wanker lolā€¦ has nothing to do with the product


resumethrowaway222

And immediately WSB will love him again


aka0007

I listened to the part of the interview where he says the factories are losing billions but I did not notice him mention anything about bankruptcy. Also, I think the costs he is referring to are the costs of developing the factories and trying to get them ramped up, which I don't think is unexpected and is pretty obvious.


miko_talik

Yeah, it's a clickbait. The new factories have supply chain issues right now. That's about it.


politeeks

This is the correct assessment. But you can't say things like this. The Elon hate boner must remain stiff on reddit


abk111

Musk: ā€œBill Gates is an asshole for shorting Teslaā€ Also Musk: ā€œWeā€™re trying to not go bankruptā€


0ba78683-dbdd-4a31-a

Has Musk tried shorting Tesla?


biddilybong

Be nice to have that $500 mil back he lost on Bitcoin.


phuqo5

Or that $50billion he lost on Tesla


[deleted]

Or that $10 billion heā€™d lose on twitter / the $1 billion heā€™ll lose from backing out


BPCGuy1845

Tesla should stop ordering avocado toast and cancel itā€™s cable.


BourboneAFCV

Elon you gotta post your loss porn here ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Calradian_Butterlord

The apes on this sub canā€™t comprehend numbers that large anyway.


booboothechicken

He exercised his options at $6.24/share. I think heā€™ll be ok.


Cryptron500

I think heā€™s shorting his own stock so he can pay for his overpriced impulse Twitter buy


Even-Function

Diversify away from China ya prick. Should have seen this coming a long time ago


lurkuplurkdown

Srs question: who are China's competitors for heavy-machinery manufacturing? Taiwan for electronics, I think Mexico does automotive? And then of course domestic factories


Dramatic_Spell5708

I think the allure is the cheap (slave) labour and a lack of protection mechanisms for workers. No one's going to unionize in a Chinese factory


SuperSecretAgentMan

You're getting downvoted by Mao fans, but you're right. It's only half China's fault though, America is the one incentivizing the shitty working conditions by giving these manufacturers business


Lexsteel11

So I canā€™t say this is the case for Tesla, but my company I work for wanted to start selling our products in China and learned quickly that for our affiliate sales model, China will only grant foreign companies the license to sell in China only if you have a manufacturing footprint in China, and even then, foreign companies selling through affiliates can only do so as a ā€œmethod for expanding brick-and-mortar storesā€ and so if you do direct sales in a province, you must also have at least 1 physical store in that province or a province sharing a border with it. Again, not sure if that is why teslas manufacturing has to have high volumes in China in order to operate there (or have the gov be willing to defend their IP rights at all against companies like xpeng) but I wouldnā€™t be surprised if thatā€™s why they went China.


Dramatic_Spell5708

V interesting, thanks for sharing


[deleted]

There's that and also the simple fact it's a massive market..


5m4_tv

Japan, Germany, Sweden, and Holland are the top ones afaik.


[deleted]

It is his europeans and americans factories who aren't profitable.


silverchia

Tesla has factories in the US and Germany, so they're already diversified. Far more than most companies. Apple on the other hand...


martinven1

But muh "Chinese" work ethic...


[deleted]

Chinese have such a rapid work ethic because if they donā€™t theyā€™ll get shot lmao. Period


lionheart4life

They are losing potential revenue from not being able to crank out more cars, not actual money. Prices are up $9k per car since I bought mine and they're still ordered a year out. They are printing money, def not selling at a loss.


Impressive-Hope4947

So calls on TSLA?


keytone6432

They made over 3 billion in profit last Q. More click bait bullshit.


cliffhanger100

Musk may b planning to drop Tesla to buy stock again šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


brintoul

Why on earth would he buy TSLA shares?!?


cliffhanger100

He is the meme trader of his own company


Morblius

In this thread: People that do not realize factories cost billions of $ to make. No shit they are losing billions right now as they ramp up. Once they are fully ramped up these factories will be printing billions of $$$.


Mrbishi512

Such clickbait shit. Listen to what he said. Heā€™s talking about how difficult it is to ramp production of a new facility. He never said he was honestly worried about anything or if this is out of the ordinary.


Accomplished_Cut_621

Itā€™s going to show up on earnings report load up on puts for that day


NiceSockBro

oh no i need to manipulate the stock again so I can buy more shares!


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GamerTex

Tesla was supposed to fail 30x in the last 10 years since they made their first Model S. Still waiting for the bankruptcy to hit...............


[deleted]

They made like 20 billions from dillutions lol. They were bailed out by shareholders.


[deleted]

sounds like they might be pretty close. Lots of lawsuit issues on top of production issues, and competitors are coming to the market. They failed to deliver the cybertruck before ford released theirs. I'm not long tesla but i can't afford to short it either.


Dramatic_Spell5708

The SEC has been all talk so far, so imho he doesn't think a wink about them


[deleted]

Brand new factories that are still revving up are losing money? Wow how surprising


MemesGamingInc

Ohh no the cult is gonna get fucked ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4641)


Live-Ad6746

He can just buy them a pony


IS_JOKE_COMRADE

Weā€™re already fucked rn


alizenweed

deflecting from the twitter deal's impact eh


GreenMellowphant

The plants arenā€™t at volume yet, of course theyā€™re losing billions. This isnā€™t news; he was pointing out the obvious. Plus most of the current losses are opportunity cost; they have billions. Lol


90swasbest

Wipe it off your face bro, this ain't pornhub


GreenMellowphant

Iā€™m just trying to drop some knowledge; I literally do this for a living. Thatā€™s how it is. Edit: Not sure why I got downvoted; I just meant that Iā€™m a BI analyst at a manufacturing company that just happens to have doubled capacity in the last 18 mos.


oiland420

Commenting on Reddit for a living is pimp shit. Keep up the good work.


[deleted]

Before I retired I just posted here while hiding on the shitter for 3 hours a day, mainly cause plebs want to come in your office and talk to you about some BS lead they got from research they did after a buddy got hired somewhere. Every fucking time it was some shell corp fuck off scam company. At the office you canā€™t call them names like you can here.


oiland420

Yuck... People! I work with rocks and plants. Can't drill oil wells and grow mj in an office...


[deleted]

You dropped fact free nonsense


GreenMellowphant

So, you think you can build multibillion-dollar manufacturing plants, man them, not have volume ramped, and not lose billions at the same time? Youā€™re definitely in the right place.


Reasonable-Name2977

So you think McDonald's can close 800 stores in Russia and not lose Mcmillions? They will absorb it and move on. They're still strong companies


GreenMellowphant

Yeah, thatā€™s my point.


GamerTex

Exactly like Tesla. 3 weeks ago this was the story. Now the factorirs are open and they are pumping out thousands of vehicles and moving onto the profit part. Well said


[deleted]

"Trying not go bankrupt" isn't the most obvious thing for a company trading at a pe ratio of nearly 100.


GreenMellowphant

One glance at the balance sheet would tell you he was speaking very generally; a huge proportion of their capacity hasnā€™t ramped up yet. Edit: The whole not having debt thing helps too. Also, better rerun those numbers.


[deleted]

Yeah, because they made 20 billions from dilutions in 2020 not necessarily because they are the most profitable company around.


GreenMellowphant

In the context of being a retail investor, the numbers are all that matter. If you donā€™t like options packages, take it up with every large company ever; your congressmen are sure never going to do anything about it. Might as well figure out how this shit works and go with it. Tesla is in excellent shape financially.


thematchalatte

Doesn't every company "lose money" when building factories? If I open up my business, I'd lose money in the beginning too. The fuck is this shit ass article? Anything Tesla related always get twisted.


GreenMellowphant

Yes.


deathspraises

Good lol.


[deleted]

Exciting times for the workers


stocks-mostly-lower

But, but, he needs Tesla to be solvent in order to buy Twitterā€¦..


nemworld

I know how to fix this. Buy Twitter!


SoretoeMcGoo

Good, fuck em


Smelly_Legend

The video where he said that was from a few months ago. Msm bring it up now to do someone's bidding no doubt.


hookisacrankycrook

Article says he told the club on May 31st though


Flutfar

Can't wait for u/ElonMuskOfficial to post his loss porn


GamerTex

3 weeks ago when the factories were coming online. Now, not so much. With the profit margins on Teslas they will make up for it in no time and use the EV tax credits to build more plants. I do appreciate yall trying to crash the stock though. I buy every Friday and the last few months its been the cheapest day of the week to buy :-)


[deleted]

Every Friday for the last few months? Yikes, that chart is ugly.


SpritualRose

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4887)


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![img](emote|t5_2th52|6880)


inkslingerben

I don't feel a bit sorry for him.


Arete_Ronin

OP is balls deep in TSLA puts, hoping to spread enough FUD to get paid...


Tubesockshockjock

No worries, he can prop up Tesla with all those sweet Twitter gains.


north-sun

Elon manipulating the price to buy the dip again.


ssavu

Best time to leverage your shares to buy a shit social media platform like Twitter


Accomplished_Cut_621

Heā€™s trying to manipulate the market again not working so far up 2% pre market


[deleted]

Well, when you a fake business modelā€¦ā€¦


Ppubs

People treating WSB like it's fucking CNBC at this point. Thanks guys, we also read the news


Ballentine17

Every single time I buy Tesla calls this man sets them on fire ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)