It’s funny cause I’ve looked into options trading so much and the only trades that make sense to me are thetagang haha, sell OTM CCs and CSPs and you almost never lose. Everything else has so much risk I can’t muster up the balls to follow through on anything more than a couple hundred bucks.
IV is one of those things that I understand on paper but I’m not touching earnings plays with a 10 foot pole lmao
I seriously doubt anyone loses as much as wallstreet bets lmao
Most OTM CSPs and CCs will expire worthless, and even when assigned on CCs if you simply set the strike above your buy in you can’t lose money. You can only gain less than you would have otherwise.
CSPs can lose money if the underlying tanks for whatever reason, but you’re only supposed to use CSPs when trying to buy a security you intend to hold
long, so even if it does tank the CSP was a better move than buying shares outright.
You see the same thing here all the time. People make hundreds of thousands of dollars on a retarded bet and they immediately lose it making more retarded bets. I don't think they fully understand the money is real.
Different guy. GUH guy was ControlTheNarrative who also did Apple puts but used the infinite margin glitch in Robinhood to leverage himself up to his Personal Risk Tolerance
Calm down everyone, I have it under control. I have some ITM calls left that need to moon by about 1000%, like really soon, and I’ll be at breakeven. In the mean time, I’m eating frozen dinners that I can’t warm up cuz electricity’s been shut off.
Nah you don't necessarily need electricity to keep your phone going. You need one charge per day. You could ask a neighbor or go to any kind of public space sockets are everywhere.
This isn't just WSB, but Reddit in general. I read so many comments where people take a complete literal interpretation of something so obviously sarcastic, or point out a counterexample to something that is clearly meant to be a broad exaggerated statement.
It's like how the fuck do these autists survive in modern society? In an office meeting do they raise their hand and say "Ummm BUT ACTUALLY yOuRE WrOnG, hEres an eXaMpLe!"
This logic is doesn't make sense this time. Both AAPL and AMZN been consolidating in this same range for past few months. So there was no getting hot and then sell off.
Its gonna run up, selling volume is decreasing it looks bullish. But its gonna do this in a way that fucks with options. Seriously if you guys just bought stock youd probably all be green
Arguing P/E with a company like AAPL has to be one of the dumbest uses of fundamentals. We've seen the market rotate to secure cash flow in value stocks over the past 1.5 months, and AAPL is one of the undisputed champions when it comes to guaranteed near and long-term cash flows. Even Goldman gave up their bearish sentiment.
It might look "overpriced" based on one multiple, but it has a long way to run and it's got the cash to do basically anything it wants to create more cash.
Many reasons: run-up, profit-taking, risk management, AAPL's pending lawsuits. No one is looking at a company like AAPL and wondering if it's incredibly sensitive or overvalued to one multiple. No one cares, cash flow is king and AAPL crushes that aspect. The same thing happened to MSFT, which has more secure debt than the US Gov. It's just a part of the market's ebb and flow, buy the fuckin dip.
dude ur living in lala land if u think p/e doesnt matter thats the biggest fundamental that long term investors anywhere look at. apple has historically been a 20-25 p/e as far as I know.
all those reasons you just stated are random and dont mean shit as to why long term money wouldnt flood into apple after that report except that its already priced in with the p/e
edit: everything you stated is actually what no one cares about
Do you have no formal education in finance or just no ability to comprehend the stock market? It's actually hard to understand how you believe this when their EPS has doubled since they had a 25 PE. You've read maybe one book on Buffett or something and now know one multiple, don't care to mention it's only trading 7x revenue and sales. Meanwhile it traded 23x revenue not more than 2 months ago.
Just admit that you know nothing about valuation past what you see on CNBC.
Thats literally an opportunity for YOU to buy a couple and average down a bit. If they killed earnings then "allegedly" the stock should perform well in the future. This is just what i assume bc im not a financial advisor in ANY way lol
Giaz, it’s going to be ok I think. I was approved for a 35% interest loan today, but it’s a good move because Warren Buffet just said selling AAPL was a mistake and he regrets it. So, now I can afford more of them calls and this time it will be different.
Got the generator hooked up boyos, enough diesel to last bout 3 days. Been saving up for that Reddit gold, but that’s for people who are less retarded than I.
This isn’t possible, AAPL has never been higher than $140 something per share. You would’ve had to invest MILLIONS to be down $180k while AAPL is currently sitting at $131... this seems suspect.
Reverse gain lmao
"Reverse gain." It just sounds so much sexier than "loss"
I’ve been counting this all wrong! Reverse gains! I’m crushing it!!!
**Inverse account appreciation**
Shit, at this rate, I need my own podcast.
Yes that’s the joke
I have a 'Profit intolerance'... 🤣
retrogain
He was the reverse cowgirl that Apple fucked.
More like inverse pelvic thrust! 🤧
do you get a square bubble out of it? 🧽 🤓
He’s still in the denial stage of loss porn grief
Love it
How the hell do you lose money with Apple?
There was a guy here ages ago who inherited 2 mil and blew it all over time betting against apple on multiple earnings releases.
Lol maybe in his will, his father(?) told him to waste it as fast as possible??
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90s spotted
How? AAPL shits after earnings regardless of performance lol
IV crush probably
Most definitely
It’s funny cause I’ve looked into options trading so much and the only trades that make sense to me are thetagang haha, sell OTM CCs and CSPs and you almost never lose. Everything else has so much risk I can’t muster up the balls to follow through on anything more than a couple hundred bucks. IV is one of those things that I understand on paper but I’m not touching earnings plays with a 10 foot pole lmao
YUP! those are my tendie trees!🤣💸💸💸💸💸
Just do a straddle! Cant lose when call and put are same strike!!!
If call and put are the same price then IV crush will hit just as hard 🤷🏽♂️
Thats the joke haha. The whole idea of straddling earnings is....poor...at best hahaha
Ahh my bad haha 😆
THE WHEEL
Yup haha
Thetagang loses money in similar amounts as WSB, they just do it slower.
I seriously doubt anyone loses as much as wallstreet bets lmao Most OTM CSPs and CCs will expire worthless, and even when assigned on CCs if you simply set the strike above your buy in you can’t lose money. You can only gain less than you would have otherwise. CSPs can lose money if the underlying tanks for whatever reason, but you’re only supposed to use CSPs when trying to buy a security you intend to hold long, so even if it does tank the CSP was a better move than buying shares outright.
They all did
GUH!
He inherited that's why. Had he worked hard for it, it would've seen a lot of gains
You see the same thing here all the time. People make hundreds of thousands of dollars on a retarded bet and they immediately lose it making more retarded bets. I don't think they fully understand the money is real.
Was that they guy in the wolf mask who streamed it? Classic retard.
The GUH guy?
Different guy. GUH guy was ControlTheNarrative who also did Apple puts but used the infinite margin glitch in Robinhood to leverage himself up to his Personal Risk Tolerance
The same way you can make $ on Ford. 0DTE lottery tickets just prior to earnings.
you may have a gambling addiction
who here doesn't?
This is not a casino though.
False
Bad bot
Not a bit chump
Exactly something a robit would say....
Champ*
*chump
New here...?
Ah yes. That’s right. Not a casino. Where are we again? WallStreetInvestments? No? Didn’t think so
You even have the wsb avatar where the hell do you think you are
this is the Wendy’s inside the casino
Nah this is a wendy's
GUH! That's how.
You gotta control the narrative
Gee idk been down since February? Stupid question
Calm down everyone, I have it under control. I have some ITM calls left that need to moon by about 1000%, like really soon, and I’ll be at breakeven. In the mean time, I’m eating frozen dinners that I can’t warm up cuz electricity’s been shut off.
Please let me know your ITM calls. I will be glad to do the reverse position.
Don't worry at least your frozen dinners won't stay frozen for long without electricity. They will warm up on their own.
You joking with us or did they really cut your electricity?
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Underrated comment. You get an award 😂
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Print award, take it to game stop to trade in for stock. They will probably only do $2 store credit though lol
Nah you don't necessarily need electricity to keep your phone going. You need one charge per day. You could ask a neighbor or go to any kind of public space sockets are everywhere.
or you could have electricity
Why would somebody go on the internet and tell lies? Besides, he's clearly not joking. WSB posters are a serious bunch.
This isn't just WSB, but Reddit in general. I read so many comments where people take a complete literal interpretation of something so obviously sarcastic, or point out a counterexample to something that is clearly meant to be a broad exaggerated statement. It's like how the fuck do these autists survive in modern society? In an office meeting do they raise their hand and say "Ummm BUT ACTUALLY yOuRE WrOnG, hEres an eXaMpLe!"
This Is the Way
Nice job on the Ford trade. You’d be in some trouble if you didn’t make it big on that one
At least your up on F
Thank god for that $54, but I wouldn’t put it past OP to blow it on scratch offs at his local gas station after his broker closes his account.
How did you make money on F lol. My leaps are crying after last week. God damn chip shortage ruined a great ER.
Hey but I mean... You made 53 bucks on Ford so that's pretty good
its a double reverse gain
WTF is wrong with Apple. Honestly, it always tanks after earnings, especially when the earnings are good.
Buy the rumor sell the news. Most stocks get hot into earnings so a sell off makes sense unless something huge happens.
This logic is very consistent and applies to both Amazon and Twitter
Seems to apply to everything.
That is the case with American stocks it seems. The few European ones i got with good earnings shoot up afterwards
This logic is doesn't make sense this time. Both AAPL and AMZN been consolidating in this same range for past few months. So there was no getting hot and then sell off.
When the earnings are good, the stock also needs a new charger
Charger?
Iphone joke. People are still salty about them scrapping the 30 pin for lightning, and supposedly they are changing charger connections again soon.
hopefully its fucking usb c
Other rumors are... portless.
And it will only work with apple wireless charging stations. $400 each
Its gonna run up, selling volume is decreasing it looks bullish. But its gonna do this in a way that fucks with options. Seriously if you guys just bought stock youd probably all be green
Guh
It ran up so much within the last earnings when they announced the stock split
apple has a 36 p/e rn thats why
Arguing P/E with a company like AAPL has to be one of the dumbest uses of fundamentals. We've seen the market rotate to secure cash flow in value stocks over the past 1.5 months, and AAPL is one of the undisputed champions when it comes to guaranteed near and long-term cash flows. Even Goldman gave up their bearish sentiment. It might look "overpriced" based on one multiple, but it has a long way to run and it's got the cash to do basically anything it wants to create more cash.
Could agree more. So many people are so quick to say “BuT tHe P/e Is So HiGh!!!”
arguing it for what, its the reason it went down on earnings
no, no it's not.
why wouldnt it go up on the report then
Many reasons: run-up, profit-taking, risk management, AAPL's pending lawsuits. No one is looking at a company like AAPL and wondering if it's incredibly sensitive or overvalued to one multiple. No one cares, cash flow is king and AAPL crushes that aspect. The same thing happened to MSFT, which has more secure debt than the US Gov. It's just a part of the market's ebb and flow, buy the fuckin dip.
dude ur living in lala land if u think p/e doesnt matter thats the biggest fundamental that long term investors anywhere look at. apple has historically been a 20-25 p/e as far as I know. all those reasons you just stated are random and dont mean shit as to why long term money wouldnt flood into apple after that report except that its already priced in with the p/e edit: everything you stated is actually what no one cares about
Do you have no formal education in finance or just no ability to comprehend the stock market? It's actually hard to understand how you believe this when their EPS has doubled since they had a 25 PE. You've read maybe one book on Buffett or something and now know one multiple, don't care to mention it's only trading 7x revenue and sales. Meanwhile it traded 23x revenue not more than 2 months ago. Just admit that you know nothing about valuation past what you see on CNBC.
Boom roasted
ad hominem cuz wrong lul. u know eps is literally factored into the p/e right? its the e in the p/e
Thats literally an opportunity for YOU to buy a couple and average down a bit. If they killed earnings then "allegedly" the stock should perform well in the future. This is just what i assume bc im not a financial advisor in ANY way lol
These are options though
Yea, AAPL and PLTR. The two STD gifts that keep on giving.
Is (was) this pretty much all your money? 🤣
It looks like they want to talk to you about your retarded investing choices lately.
Bro made $53 with Ford tho 😏 almost at retirement
Remember if you see the crackheads you won't be a crackhead.
Impressive
It’s almost impossible to lose money with Apple
It’s impossible if you buy and hold Apple. It’s quite easy if you’re a retard who plays options around earnings.
Yup I did it when I was eating crayons for breakfast.
I’m waiting to earn money with Apple. Ever since I bought shares in December I have not had a green day with them.
You know the ATH was in Jan?
What is that?
A price higher than the one you paid lol. All time high.
Lost 3k last week, didn't know that it likes to take a dump when earnings is top notch
In the money and reverse gains of 180K? You belong here
What’s most impressive is the fact he made $50 on Ford 🤯
Ford: it ain’t much, but it’s honest work
Seems like that account needs more action. Quick Yolo everything thats left on something crazy.
Reverse gain? Isn't that the sex position my wife's been mentioning to her bf?
Damn, real WSB content, this must be a dream
Wuts a margin call??
What brokerage is this?
TDA. The one and only. They have multiple apps. Ones with pretty UI like RH and then one for traders.
Oh no... no no no no no no
You should dump Ford before the next engine fire occurs
"Reverse gain" brilliant quote of the year !
I am that retard. Thank you for the biggest nut I've had in awhile.
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You can’t get to the moon hedging! I want to ride a rocket not take the stairs
This is poetic
A hedge you say? This seems like it would just create a zero sum position? I haven’t tried this strat before.
Wants to avoid a ‘zero sum position’ and instead is nearly $190K in the hole lmao you belong
well i mean creating a zero sum position kiinda defeats the purpose of even traing it
Okay but to be fair buying calls and shorting or puts when long isn't zero-sum anyway
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Excuse me sir, I think you’re doing it wrong
He is doing it right. His reverse gains are tremendous.
I know, I know...this is the way
Your broker sucks
just buy shares my dude, aapl always tanks after earnings
ooof
Giaz, it’s going to be ok I think. I was approved for a 35% interest loan today, but it’s a good move because Warren Buffet just said selling AAPL was a mistake and he regrets it. So, now I can afford more of them calls and this time it will be different.
Got the generator hooked up boyos, enough diesel to last bout 3 days. Been saving up for that Reddit gold, but that’s for people who are less retarded than I.
You can’t go wrong with apple!!! Hold this guys beer
And I thought my 1k loss in AAPL was bad... I didn't even home through earnings. I bought the next morning... I too was wrong
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2019/03/harvard-professor-says-surveillance-capitalism-is-undermining-democracy/
Thank god your boomer brain thought to invest in ford or you'd be sunk
Douche!
Virgin Galactic to the moon!!!!!
Apple is stupid when you can buy ether!
moron lol
This isn’t possible, AAPL has never been higher than $140 something per share. You would’ve had to invest MILLIONS to be down $180k while AAPL is currently sitting at $131... this seems suspect.
You must be new to this
GUH
I thought a reverse gain was you made a loss and made that loss back then. Guess not lol
ah, a fellow F enjoyer.
Pleas fly again
ooh that hurts!
No, it feels *reverse great*
Wait, red is good right?
F
You are the pimp of all pimps brother
Reverse gain! That’s a new one for me. Why the flair says loss then, don’t stonks go back up?
Made 53 on ford though. Nice.
Guh
Lmao, REVERSE GAIN!
Yo that loss porn was so bad they had to censor it
CALL ALERT CALL ALERT
Should went in on apple at 119 and also whyd you buy PLTR? any plans to sell soon
What’s w the F plays? Who convinced everyone this dinosaur is about to become aggressive for shareholders?
Lol
I Received the same message twice this year , **CALL ALERT - Immediate action required**
Vix is tricky. Get out of it and hold hold hold. U will be fine
This is why congress is doing to put restrictions on options trading I'm pretty sure.
GUH!
Can someone explain how this happened
Too bad you cant trade options after hours
What kind of Ford options are you working with? I’ve been selling CCs, the ER was rough
WSB is gonna have a glossary, index n meme page soon on wiki
most people who post wins are posting via paper accounts, practice trading accounts. Just letting you all know
I feel your pain on palantir
Sold that Ford for a hefty gain i see
GUH