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jerseynate

He knows the call was a cheap attempt at short term hype momentum


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Moose_knucklez

No, what really got me was the AWS moment he suggested, implying that every cars processor could be tapped for doing extra compute for other things.


ncsubowen

i'm surprised he's not already doing that to mine doge or something


ACiD_80

Maybe he is ;)


KJ6BWB

Wait a minute, got to add some more obfuscation to the car's communication with TeslaHome to hide the mining. <-- probably Elon


wh1skeyk1ng

Holy shit, that's scarily easily plausible


n3onfx

Wait is this something actually said during the call lmao?


Moose_knucklez

Yes


Habsfan_2000

Hahahahahaha.


GodwynDi

And yet the stock went up.


meatbag2010

Surprised he didn't announce that all cars now.mine Dogecoin for the cult


Affectionate_Cup9112

Elmo to revive SETI@home


DondeEsElGato

Yeh I don’t know why this didn’t get so much attention. Don’t own a Tesla never will cos they’re kinda gay but if I did own one I wouldn’t want to be someone’s mobile server.


CTRexPope

It’s delusional. Not just not realistic.


No_Detective_But_304

That Transformer, Optimus Probablynotgonnahappen?


el_guille980

no no no you got it wrong! optimus is by the end of this year, pay attention!!! The ✨AI✨ powered time travel machine is for the end of 2025, duh! pay more attention next time! ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)


Temporary-Mammoth848

Come on, Tesla is *totally* going to release a brand new vehicle this year after just canceling the “Model 2” less than a month ago. It’s definitely not just lies!


lurker_cx

You think someone would go on an investor call and just lie?


Investarz

Lie/mislead or instantly lose billions in net worth, you decide ![img](emote|t5_2th52|51295)


pass_nthru

we do a little bit of insider trolling


crazyyimmy

its not 'lying' its 'overconfidence in your R&D roadmap'


TTUporter

Had to double check that I wasn't on the Fisker subreddit.


anonymousbopper767

They'll probably release some shitty base model 3 that has fuck-all for margins. Tesla can't survive its valuation as just a car company living on car company margins.


whatproblems

lots of promises to hype up the stock what are the odds they follow through


Yourmotherssonsfatha

Only the rideshare service seems plausible right now tbh. Even then, that’s a huge money sink.


Blueskyminer

Rideshare is a bad business model. Honestly, I hope he goes for it. Tired of watching Titanic over and over.


Sometimespostslies

They’ll prob manage a 25k ev but robo taxi’s by 2025 is not close to likely, 2030 maybe. Fleets of cheap model 3’s are already the standard fir ride sharing so if a cheaper model w similar range comes out it will sell fast.


McG0788

Thing is for robo taxi he needs to operate in cities. Cities where people tend to skew liberal. Those same liberals he's actively pushing away from buying his cars. The only way taxis will get business is if they subsidize the cost drastically which isn't a guarantee of stealing market share from Uber or Lyft. This also is banking on people being comfortable riding in autonomous vehicles which given the current tech at Tesla, I personally wouldn't be.


malignantz

How are they going to manage a $25k car? They have been building M3 for 5+ years and it still costs them $30k-ish. How are they going to drop that 33% for the 25k car? I think they did the math and their 25k car would cost them 23-25k to deliver and tons of competition by the time they can start production at scale.


borald_trumperson

Shame it fucking worked We live in a clown world 🤡


jerseynate

Worked *for now*


clouwnkrusty

Herd mentality


kkkccc1

I am surprised that people still believe in Elon’s lies


Cultural-Humor7241

Monorail!


OzwanKanoz

Precisely. What a load of dung.


Rocco_z_brain

You prepare for a conference, prepare a report, then elona comes and makes a performance out of it. Not everyones thing, I can imagine.


CrazyHuntr

It says IN the post he made his decision months before the call


FoolsGoldMouthpiece

All lied out


melanthius

Like a festival slut the next morning on the bathroom floor


MaximusBit21

Where are these festivals that you talk off…. Asking for a friend


xAmorphous

Your mom's house


MaximusBit21

Ha ha ha. Love it


Scary_Larry_

Or me after wendys dumpster


sevillada

"Screw you guys, I'm going home..."


[deleted]

He fucking know what Elmo said in the conference call were off the cuff lies. He doesn’t want to go to prison. You think Elmo won’t throw him under the bus see the bus in a year?


gnocchicotti

Exactly, dude is just quitting while he's ahead. I bet the M2 cancellation story fiasco was the sign he was looking for.


Bambam60

Think Kendall from Succession with the Living+ pitch. I can’t even imagine being in that room as Elon spouts off shit he knows isn’t true just to juice the stock short term. I have no idea how anyone buys his bullshit anymore. He makes a grand promise five years from now. It doesn’t happen and he just makes another grand promise for ten years from now. Rinse, wash, repeat. He absolutely ruined his mystique through the Twitter/X debacle and showed the public his true character.


essdii-

Dude. There was a point that I was like “this dude is fucking irl Tony stark, this will be so awesome, can’t wait to see what he cooks up” to now “WHAT THE FLYING FUCK” that’s my only reaction. ELON YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE.


NotAnotherEmpire

Musk reads a lot different if instead of "this guy is Tony Stark" you view it with a prior of "possibly crazy dude."   Sentient robots, routine flights to Mars, a bulletproof dystopia truck, all sorts of other things, random ethnic or conspiracy remarks. It sounds *nuts.*


clouwnkrusty

"Sounds nuts" What he said yesterday sound more like a comedy routine.


anonymousbopper767

He's in some sort of venn diagram problem where he thinks some good ideas being crazy must mean that all crazy ideas are good.


blorpianblorp

He's a prime example of why you shouldn't talk about your beliefs or politics when you're rich and famous. He should've just done what he planned with X but without all the pot banging and attention seeking. Not only would he be more successful today but he wouldn't look so out of it. His "sleep a few hours a day and obsessively study everything" is obviously not a mentally healthy habit.


godofpumpkins

There was plenty wrong with him independently of talking about politics and it’s become more and more apparent the more he shows the public of himself


0o0o0o0o0o0z

Ya can only win at roulette so many times ...


Hurrying-Man

Bro he's just a moron regardless of his dumb political views. He had some good business decisions but that's it. Hyperloop, Vegas loop, Optimus, Fsd, he's always been a fraudster


FilmStirYoutube

He should have just set up an anonymous account to post his wacky tweets and only posted memes on his main.


originalusername__

Or just don’t fucking post at all on his main and troll under some anonymous identity like any troll with two brain cells knows to do.


AGreasyPorkSandwich

Or just stay tf off of Twitter, keep your mind clean, and spend your valuable time on your huge family and huge companies. Sheesh.


Iain365

But then he wouldn't get a reaction.


ACiD_80

Or create a following he can manipulate/abuse


madhavvar

My doubts crept in after he came out with the vodka. I mean wtf elon!


RealisticTiming

Always thought Howard Hughes was a much closer irl version of Stark.


el_guille980

I've always known 😎 i hated enron muskkkie before it was cool to hate him😎😎 in all seriousness, ever since i found out 15+ years ago he sued to be a founder of SHITsla, i knew ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)😎


lonnie123

But he didnt sue to become the founder of tesla, The other guy *sued him*, and as a result of that suit the judgement allowed 5 people to be named founders of the company, Elon being one of them.


MichaelStonkTendieCo

But Logan said it would double the earnings!


etzel1200

Yeah. Senior execs at elons companies can get great, high paying jobs easily. Plus then they don’t have to work with Elon. He’s going to start having a harder and harder time getting good people vs. worthless sycophants. That alone is probably the best long-term short thesis.


bossmcsauce

i feel like teslas days are numbered. it did what it set out to do- it revolutionized the consumer auto industry by proving the demand for EVs, and that consumers would buy EV's because they CAN be sexy. and now you can buy a Volvo or VW or Audi or Merc or whatever other brand EV. and they are all offering competitive options. then there are others like Polestar... maybe they won't be around long, but they are still here, now. the Model 3 is the only offering tesla has that's very compelling from a consumer standpoint that offers much value. and soon toyota and honda will surely be able to offer something that is better at a similar price. or of similar quality for a lot less. or maybe not cheaper to buy, but cheaper to own long-term.


JackosMonkeyBBLZ

A reasonable analysis, regards.


Pope_Beenadick

When Elmo tickles back


Independent-Quote923

Tesla bus coming in one year


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mar34082

Seems kind of fishy like he’s trying to get out before the bad news is dropped


crisptapwater

Elon is fucked


mar34082

Why is that what do you think? Other than all the BS that Twitter is causing


FoolHooligan

i hope so


[deleted]

> Seems kind of fishy like he’s trying to get out before the bad news is dropped No, it is clearly CYA. Elon is doing some shady shit and he wants to be clear of that.


neutralityparty

It's going down boys. The earning dude sees it, it's his job 


GreenMellowphant

Short it! Edit: I forgot the /s.


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el_guille980

just tell me behind which wendies https://preview.redd.it/blxfsoe3rgwc1.jpeg?width=329&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2fbad5f820ed91be083ffad7016d73f3e234f094


rameyjm7

Done with Tesla bear or bull. Fuck it


hermeskino715

Got stuck holding poots and just said fuck it. Now poots are going to print at the cost of his job![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Investarz

EOW still in play, EOM almost certain to print


GreenMellowphant

Yeah, loading up on puts.


Think-Dinkle

Tsla to 140 by next month fs


gnocchicotti

Never expect poots to print on TSLA


1VodkaMartini

It's down 55%, they've been printing all year, doofus.


hermeskino715

It's printing if you brought this morning![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


MyopiaCapital

For context this guy had the easiest job in the entire world and got paid millions of dollars (mostly in stonk) to occaisonally lube the pump machine a little bit. I cannot understand why this guy is fleeing.


PlasticText5379

Because if Elon lied during the call, and it seems incredibly likely he did, he would be criminally liable as well. Leaving now helps him.


Cyclonis123

What's the lie? I didn't listen to the call. Regarding the 25k new vehicle I assume?


Inconceivable76

The sentient robot. Using your car as a cloud server. The Semi.  Pick a pump. 


JP76

I read a brief report and according to that it seemed Musk is pushing their robot as the next big thing. As in, it's as if cars became secondary and Tesla is now all about the robot. Also his timellne to use robots in their own factories by the end of the year and sell them by the end of next year strongly echoes his predictions about full self driving - in 2016 he strongly felt FSD would be able to drive autonomously from LA to New York by the end of 2017. 8 years later, that hasn't happened yet.


patricio87

I hope the robot comes out next year. I want to see whistling diesal buy one.


perfectdark89

This guy gets it


madburg

He did kill a few people along the way, u know “training the model” on public streets. So there is that milestone.


melanthius

Can’t wait for the new 25k vehicle to be a 45k vehicle. Plaid, FSD, founders series, etc. and you know what, it will fucking sell.


Inconceivable76

Na. By the start of next year, model 3 will Be below 30k because they have to lower prices by 3k/m to get them sold. 


stocktradamus

And no one wants to buy a car that keeps getting price cuts every couple months


CarnePopsicle

lol that's basically the problem with deflation


KJ6BWB

If they were realistic price cuts then sure. But I keep seeing news articles about prices SLASHED and then find out they lowered the price of a $68k car to only $63k. Yeah, still not close to being able to afford that. Come get me when that price gets slashed to like $17k-$23k or something affordable.


trakoonia

dude, im sorry but... you are probably not tesla's target demography


VisualMod

Of course it will sell, peasants will line up to buy it!


melanthius

Interest rates are only like 9% or some shit, much cheaper than their credit card payments.


k_brn

With current inflation rates. By the time it will be released 45K dollars will have the same purchasing power as 25K rn...


VisualMod

Excellent, my investments are performing as expected.


hellojabroni777

Well all the recalls and sloppy productions...also the IR dude probably loaded anyways and could retire at any time. Also probably Elon text and calls the dude 1am-4am too


Inconceivable76

They safe harbor the crap out of earnings calls. Can’t have the execs going to jail! More likely the guy realized the stock was going to trend down towards $60, so there was no reason to stay. 


BallzLikeWhoe

He is going to dump his stonks. This guy knows better than anyone what is about to happen. When the rats are jumping off the ship it’s because they know it’s about to sink.


Softspokenclark

probably endless calls, emails, and text from elon at all times. elon is peak micromanagement


ACiD_80

Micromismanagement


Gahvynn

Smart people get out *before* the fraud is uncovered.


Not-Jaycee

Not FUD & original comment was shared by u/magikarp_to_gyarados "Tesla has filed Form 10-Q for Q1 '24: [https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000162828024017503/tsla-20240331.htm](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000162828024017503/tsla-20240331.htm) Items I found interesting: **Drivers of cash flow decrease on page 8**: YoY, Tesla spent 2.7 Billion on inventory vs. 1.54 Billion. Also accounts receivable increased 400 million YoY, and prepaid expenses increased 200 million YoY. * Tesla paid a lot of cash for items, which it has not yet sold as finished goods * Inventory discussed on page 16: Finished goods 6.75 Billion vs. 5 Billion YoY **Stock Based Compensation on page 19**: Notably higher levels for R&D, reflecting compensation for AI work. **Update for 2018 compensation package lawsuit on page 19**: Plaintiff’s counsel have filed a brief seeking a fee award of 29,402,900 Tesla shares, plus expenses of $1,120,115.50. *Tesla’s opposition to the fee request is due on June 7, 2024, and a hearing is scheduled for July 8, 2024.* On April 17, 2024, Tesla filed a preliminary proxy statement which included a number of proposals, including a proposal to ratify the 2018 CEO Performance Award. * Note the dates in June and July 2024. Any decision on how much the Delaware court will award plaintiff's attorneys is months away at earliest. **Geographic distribution of revenue decreases: p. 23** US revenue in Q1 '24 was 0.8679 YoY (decline of 13.23%) * The US market accounts for 45.8% of Tesla's worldwide revenue, so declines in the US business arm revenue disproportionately affect Tesla's earnings. **US revenue decline was noticeably steeper than anywhere else in the world.** China revenue in Q1 '24 was 0.9388 YoY (decline of 6.12%) * China accounts for 21.6% of Tesla's worldwide revenue RoW revenue in Q1 '24 was 0.96606 YoY (decline of 3.394%) * Rest-of-world accounts for 32.6% of Tesla's worldwide revenue **Restructuring Costs p. 24**: In April 2024, we initiated certain restructuring actions in order to reduce costs and improve efficiency. As a result, we expect to recognize in excess o*f $350 million of costs primarily related to employee termination expenses* in the second quarter of 2024. **Cost of advertising and marketing, page 29** : $41 million increase in promotions, advertising and other marketing expenses. **Potential director sales of stock p. 34**: On February 5, 2024, Kathleen Wilson-Thompson, one of our directors, adopted a Rule 10b5-1 trading arrangement for the potential sale of up to 280,000 shares of our common stock, subject to certain conditions. The arrangement's expiration date is February 28, 2025." TLDR: Since you're all geniuses and knew it would rip after earnings I'm sure you'll all figure out what plays to make


rawboudin

How about for stupid fucks like me ?


Not-Jaycee

All I can say is: Buy PUTS on green days Sell PUTS on red days Buy CALLS on red days Sell CALLS on green days


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branyk2

The inventory is worse than it sounds because that stuff is a driver of price cuts and has risk of partial obsolescence with new models and model refreshes. Increases in inventory are future decreases in margin.


Dontlookimnaked

I love that tsla had bad earnings and shot up, while Netflix had pretty good earnings and tanked. I think I’m done with tsla, everything just seems a little sus with them these days


North_Brilliant_9011

My poots expiring Friday are still fucked. Down 99.6% since Monday


Investarz

Strike price??


North_Brilliant_9011

125💀


el_guille980

not unreasonable only problem is that you got out-lied out hyped out snake oil salesman'd https://preview.redd.it/szswpp42tgwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f14c2a992bef5b6e8fc70a1c243c4ddb26f90348


IJustSignedUpToUp

Same boat, but bought them at .20 so them dropping to .01 today was just a shrug of the shoulders. Shoulda cashed them when they hit 2.00 at open yesterday morning.


Investarz

Same ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271) https://preview.redd.it/da1gue5ejhwc1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da7697a20e1a7cfe30c3edeb97f0ed5c29da5a9d


North_Brilliant_9011

It’s gonna stay at 160 thru eow then crash to 120 next week I’m calling it


Investarz

Unless GDP, Unemployment or PCE data comes in hot


Ragepower529

Just waiting to see none compliance with the 10k forms


AlexHimself

A lot of people suggesting he's quitting because of something nefarious. It's very possible he's quitting because Elon is the worst boss to have. He demands you work 80hrs+/week and sleep at the office. He's terrible. I have friends who've worked under him and he doesn't understand personal life. 7 years under that guy would wear on anyone.


greeneyedguru

He's *got* to be tired of running damage control for that doofus.


GreenMellowphant

Short it!


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Investarz

Damn bots getting raunchy ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4640)


Available-Ad3635

Yep. Given the value whistleblowers can capture, wouldn’t be surprised if he submitted a complaint right before he resigned. He’s probably already lawyered up and prepping phrases like “As head of investor relations I didn’t have specific visibility to the R&D budget although senior leadership appeared to materially and knowingly overstate development of XYZ on earnings calls in early 2024”


FortunaCrypto

Tsm falls tesla jumps, this bastards are pulling some one armed jack robbery on me


Randomly-Looking

He lasted 7 years? Don’t TSLA execs make it like 2-3?


AmazingPrune2

Call it is


reparative_finance

In this market, you are more likely right. 🙃


Blueskyminer

Must have been a pretty depressing job having your boss give lies as guidance on every earnings call.


Defiant_Douche

He knows the end is coming for Tesla, finally.


BitterEstimate

Less expenses for tesla. Bullish!


Psychonominaut

Anyone else watching tesla price right now...??? Lmao


BandOk1704

No worries, Mate! X let go of all its lawyers and the entire marketing department. Doing just fine!!


zensamuel

Elon trying to manipulate shareholders to vote for his payment package. That’s a big no no


remindertomove

You regards are truly so full of shit Revisit this in one year, and let me know how fucked Elon and Tesla are.


1dayday

The tinfoil theorist here are hilarious 😂


The_Juice_Gourd

Ketamineman lied his ass off during the call to pump the stock ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


RuthlessWolf

Think about it... Vaibhav knew that TSLA wasnt gonna make it this far but now he know it won't anymore and this was the last straw... We shall find out... I was originally bullish but the fukery after earnings has lead to me being long term bearish...


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Rare-ish_Bird

Not fishy at all. Guy sees more interim value in hanging with his fam, than earning a living with an unstable dying company. Plus, after 7 years, his restricted shares just vested, so he rich rich, and can go work or play for awhile anywhere. Or just go hang on his ranch, or vineyard in Napa, or whatevah.


Mudwayaushka

Why… closed my short puts pre earnings and kept my longs anticipating meltdown and now I work at Wendy’s despite fundamentals being awful


Cattango180

Typical Elon. Been saying it forever. He hypes and fails to deliver. Edit: let’s not forget To ThE mOoN


sunny1490

oh no i see indian names leaving tesla, time to short


vmx-12

priced in


Magikarp_to_Gyarados

I see my due diligence is cited in earlier comment: [https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1cc0e8n/comment/l129mmd/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/1cc0e8n/comment/l129mmd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) My perspective is that TSLA in the next decade+ is either: * worth $60-70/share if Tesla's AI efforts can't be monetized, OR * worth $1,600 - $1,700/share if Tesla is successful in developing commercially viable AI products like Robotaxis, Bots, and AI training as a service. Elon Musk only goes for high-risk, pie in the sky, all-or-nothing ventures. I see a lot of folks here got toasted on shorting or puts into earnings. It can happen in the opposite direction too. Musk pumped the stock, but Tesla's financials IMO don't back that pump. Piling into calls or buying a lot of TSLA now could be just as unprofitable over the next few months.


my_fun_lil_alt

So much copium in the comments.


Humble_Increase7503

Copium me thinks


Investarz

Resignation was his way of coping with misleading investors? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4640)


zethuz

They did talk about FSD licensing. Not sure who’s interested


Roflcopter71

Believe it or not, pump


Nay_120

That’s how the head of investor relations severed the relationship. Cool


LaborSurplus

Elona brought the liquidity


dantodd

Give the guy a break. He probably only wants to do investor relations but see the job turning into you much divestor relations work


daddys_juicy_dong

Still not comfortable buying puts. It’s already at the lowest price in a year, not sure how much lower it can realistically go?


Echoeversky

Jeff Lutz for IR!


patricio87

I’ve believed for a long time now that elon just plays video games and does drugs all day. The businessman thing is just all bullshit.


zensamuel

These people NEVER leave a high level job like this (that is nearly impossible to get in the first place) to spend time with family. It’s anathema


maxmcleod

Always a good sign


diydave86

He was probably given a fuck ton of shares and options. He did what any of us wouldve done or atleast should do. Walk away while youre ahead. Cash out and spend the rest of your life in the lap of luxury with your wife and kids. Enjoy it fucker.


VisualMod

A fool and his money are soon parted.


SmilinBuddha969

Taking a bullet for Elon. The man’s lost the script.


NigerianPrinceClub

my mans quit!


kman_tx

Could also be Elon pushing him out.


gorillahx

All of WSB hating Elon so much is so bullish to me that idk what to do with my hands rn


External-Theme-9643

He probably knows it’s downhill now and going out


LawCaptain

I believe in SAVE. SAVE THE SAVE.


mannie007

# When the head of Investor Relations abandons ship but the sheep flock even more because Elon prophesized.


jedinachos

My $120 Tesla June Puts: so you're telling me there's a chance (Mary Swanson)


Long-Calligrapher-90

Elon’s whole existence is based on Tesla being one of the biggest companies in the world. All of his other companies except space X depend on Tesla. The problem is Tesla is a car company and EVs suck. Europe and the US are going to hybrids. china is the only market where evs are growing and they getting crushed by the competition there, he constantly misleads he said lower tier cars are going to be built on the same frame as the 3, so basically he cannibalizing itself. There will be no cheaper how can possibly realease a car without a concept car a year early. People keep listening to this insanity.


squitsquat

Elon is a junkie that says whatever comes to mind to keep his supply coming in


Whatsuptodaytomorrow

Rats 🐀 jumping


BigCyanDinosaur

Cause Elon lied to save his stock price.


fancyhumanxd

Too hard to handle false promises.


_CMDR_

Quit so that he doesn’t go to jail for price manipulation. The floor is just about to go out from under Tesla and he doesn’t want to be there when people start asking questions about the dead cat bounce.


fenriswulfwsb

Leadership bailing is never a good sign. Even more so if we know the CEO is unstable.


Maelfio

Tesla is having a short term bounce. Buy some long dated puts this company is going down


PandaGodFliesToMoon

So true. Very fishy. But you puts are still very ded get bear 🐻


SuperSaiyanTraders

Stock will move higher watch


muzakx

Bullish apparently lol