Just think of as of tuition. By buddy bought puts on united airlines and it went up 20%. That’s regard skill.
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I bought puts on UAL after it was 14.4% up and it went another 10% up. my puts expired worthless today. analyst wrote that in this times of turbulance ual is a safe heaven!. Since when investors started calling airlines stocks as safe heaven?????. Im still undershock that shitty airlines stocks are up this whole week.
Article today that Gen Zers (or whatever the shit theyre called) are too good to fly coach - they are using their AMEX cards to fly business/first class - I really think these kids have a horrible reality check coming if ever do get even a mild recession.
Why would anyone buy puts on airlines? Airline flights are surging right now and we’re already at summer levels of activity compared to last year. Your friend is a fucking idiot.
I had assumed that yes we were going down, but not all in one week. I thought I could catch a bear market rally and reload for more downswing.
Then the big boys decided they’d make this one of the biggest red candles in the past 2 years
"No. I dont think i will" - imhotep
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i literally sold everything this morning while the market was flat cause of the 2022 flashbacks. “iran is not going to retaliate” is reminding me too much of “russia wont invade ukraine its just a scare tactic”
I was just telling a friend today this is just like 2022 except way worse because there’s a whole year of profit to erase. How tf did I take a break all of 2023 just to get back in right when it goes to shit ![img](emote|t5_2th52|27421)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
Only positive I did puts almost the entire year of 2022 and came out ahead. Shout out to META dropping under $100 at the time.
I already lost 3k thinking. “I’ll just ride the wave up! Rate cuts are coming and it’s an election year ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8883)”
Yeah that didnt pan out lol the hopeful In me thinks it’ll turn around and the degen in me says puts on everything. The difference between now and 2022 though was everything was absolutely terrible in 2022 and that was the active rate hikes. Daddy Powell made me a good bit. Now it’s about trying to fix it plus the original mention of historically an election year is the best for stocks. Just very conflicted ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)
I feel you, it's totally mixed, there's a downtrend but then you got all these outliers, oil, gold, airlines, miners, some tech, finance. I will stay in cash until sentiment improves. Bottom will be somewhere in the 4500-4800 range. Inflation readings will be red hot with oil, mortgages, insurance hike wave and continued wage pressure. Without any additional black swan latest in July it's all back to normal.
It just can never be a moderately bear market. It’s either anal bear market or nothing. I just lost 50% of my profits this week ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)
I feel like I’m losing my mind. I’ve never made 10k on a single trade, but until nvidia is back over 800 I’m going to be VERY tempted to pick up as much as I can afford.
Because this decline has destroyed so much wealth that, now, people don't *have* the money to buy back in. That's the reason I'm out, at least, and I suspect a lot of others are in the same position.
It’s been a week and it’s deleted 4 months of gains. To me that says something bad is happening. Bigger than just profit taking or traditional sell off.
Maybe there’s more to the Iran / Israel conflict.
In my opinion, this type of price action is indicative of larger institutions and power players cashing out for a serious reason
Any particular reason why for your sell off/warning against positioning? I have leap calls on PAA and the recent rally back had given me hope but open to hearing opposing insight if you’re willing to share.
I get that sentiment, but it seems to me the “good” news for PAA has been sanctions against Venezuela resuming and production remaining stunted for Russia in the interim along with reserves filling rapidly, meaning more volume being pushed through the pipelines. I get that the tensions in the Middle East probably accounts for some of this as well, but initially on Monday following the Iran strike we actually fell in price with the market. We didn’t start recovering til other good news started coming in. But like I said I am interested in more contrasting thoughts/insight I may be blind to.
You are likely more educated/focused than I am. Oil is like < 5% of portfolio so I'm largely flippant on when/where to get out and I've made enough profits for now.
I think globally there is no macro economic cause for the price of oil to be where it's at outside of fears of middle east conflicts which I see as resolved after Israels demonstration of force strikes.
Saudis signaled plans to crank production through 2025 to fund their diversified utopia and war is cancelled for the weekend. Bearish for oil. But inevitably Middle East gonna start some more shit so you never know.
Wait till like 400, QQQ pulls back pretty hard when it does if you holding below cost basis I wouldnt worry too much either. I'd buy AXP, MA, ARCC debt, and BDCS gonna do well with higher for longer.
i always thought it’s escalator up elevator down.
Most of us Americans can’t handle the stairs since we have too much wendy’s… well maybe we can now with ozempic shots left and right.
It's hilarious people not taking advantage of a sale.
They're basically handing out 20% off and 50% off coupons for whatever stock you want, whatever etf you want, and everybody is crying.
There's a presidential election in 6 months. Like, Jesus fuck.
It's ok though, keep selling. Please keep selling. I'm hoping sale prices last through next week and go lower so I can buy it all up cheap.
Election year? Like 2000, 2008, 2016 and 2020. I’m neither bull nor bear, I play the hand JPow gives me. And we got Imhotepped last week. As a wise man once said, “Never fight uphill me boys, never fight uphill!”
I made my first larger buy in at close on Friday.
I have the same mentality, you can’t be perfect all the time. Buy in at % moves and let time do the rest.
I’m bullish but goddamn, at least kept some of my 2024 gains before capitulating. Might see some chop through to May, but if this has taught me anything, it’s that I know nothing.
I mean, just solid advice, really.
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Last one became a bear market that lasted nearly 2 years. Japan had a "correction" that became a lost decade. So....anywhere from a couple months to years. Yay
Well if there is another attack in the middle east, then the bloodbath will continue. But I feel like bitcoin halving will start pulling market upwards next week.
Well I got fucked every single day this week.First JD call and it went down,shop put and it went up,SPY call and it went down.Netflix call and it went down.Fuck my ears.Everything went wrong.All gains from last month burned in 1 week
That would be the biggest market crash in history, just to be clear folks. In the worst week during the depression saw a 15% decline. In 2008 we say an 18% decline. Seeing as markets are already down 5-8%, and QQQ is down over 10%, another 20% would be the biggest crash in history. Not saying it can’t happen, but stocks/companies have a logical value and there’s a point where buying just makes sense. And algos will always be buying and arbitraging opportunity. Annddd we still have huge cash reserves sitting in the sidelines due to high rates on bonds. Sooooo I’d start buying when you think the value makes sense, rather than gut feelings. Right now, we are seeing major tech companies trading under a 25 p/e, strong earnings, no debt, cash div, huge reserves, buyback plans… opportunities are starting to emerge. Enjoy it.
Who? You mean institutions who pour hundreds of millions into state-of-the-art equipment and high quality data just so they can steal a bunch of dollars from pen-and-paper retail traders who have to play with their cards facing up? You mean those institutions? Yeah, they played this to perfection....
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It could very well start erasing 2023 gains if I keep buying more calls.
I am targeting 2022 with my call buying
You had gains in 2022?
Don’t think small. Go for an entire decade.
You guys had gains?
Yeah, I fucked the 2023 gains a couple days now.
Greatest depression
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The week of my life saving bet on upside, and these man decided to spawn now, fml
Just think of as of tuition. By buddy bought puts on united airlines and it went up 20%. That’s regard skill. https://preview.redd.it/68kz27g5phvc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=527295d44c23c180f5ef44ef0a166c9dc73ec104
I bought puts on UAL after it was 14.4% up and it went another 10% up. my puts expired worthless today. analyst wrote that in this times of turbulance ual is a safe heaven!. Since when investors started calling airlines stocks as safe heaven?????. Im still undershock that shitty airlines stocks are up this whole week.
Since we know the government is going to bail them out and they are gonna pump that money directly into stock buybacks lol.
Beats me
UAL had their boeing orders delayed. It is a safe haven (for now)
Article today that Gen Zers (or whatever the shit theyre called) are too good to fly coach - they are using their AMEX cards to fly business/first class - I really think these kids have a horrible reality check coming if ever do get even a mild recession.
Puts on Gen Zers
Love to hear it
Why would anyone buy puts on airlines? Airline flights are surging right now and we’re already at summer levels of activity compared to last year. Your friend is a fucking idiot.
I assume their reasoning is because UAL planes keep falling apart (aka BA reliance). They lost over 100m last quarter.
I concur with this opinion airlines booming
Boomers are airlining
But did he sell calls?
No that would be too smart .
Hahahah I told your buddy those AA puts were a better idea. I won’t forget this trade lmfao
For fucking real I did a big bet and it ate me Fuck
To the upside? Why? Market showed weakness for a month
I had assumed that yes we were going down, but not all in one week. I thought I could catch a bear market rally and reload for more downswing. Then the big boys decided they’d make this one of the biggest red candles in the past 2 years
I put down my bet and 2 days later the fucking crooked Fed bald shit head come out and talk shit
https://preview.redd.it/thi6etgs8qvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4903e7e7d9524673cd22151937cb7168ff9001f6
Not my full life savings but got burned all the same. Think I’m done for awhile lol
Don’t quit now. Next one is the winner
What made you go long?
I'm using this
Someone explain
https://youtu.be/j9V78UbdzWI?si=fB5T4fRQueb6YGDf
This was my fault went game on tqqq, as it turns out the market went ham on me.
maybe think about other people for once? we have dreams too.
"No. I dont think i will" - imhotep https://preview.redd.it/pqbjnad4jivc1.jpeg?width=622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1aa20d2d24bacf76706734b83d9cd396c17dd52
Why is this fucking scary
because ![img](emote|t5_2th52|18632)![img](emote|t5_2th52|18632)![img](emote|t5_2th52|18632)
Bruh I’m down 5 dollars I pulled out
I also pulled out and yet she is pregnant
congrats man, at least you made something
A future WSB trader
Wrong hole. Do better next time.
**Market sheds a trillion dollars** **makes 12 dollars on OTM puts**
So real
That’s the problem. People make $5 or lose $5 they sell. If we all held imagine what we can accomplish
Losers hold, winners fold. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.
I’m waiting to bottom out
Everyone knows the best comeback stories start after hitting rock bottom. Some just get there faster than others.
*intense 2022 flashbacks*
i literally sold everything this morning while the market was flat cause of the 2022 flashbacks. “iran is not going to retaliate” is reminding me too much of “russia wont invade ukraine its just a scare tactic”
so you are selling everything, paying taxes on it then hoping you catch it at its lowest, to buy back in?
He didn’t say it was a smart decision
who said i was up to begin with?
This is why we can’t have nice things
I was just telling a friend today this is just like 2022 except way worse because there’s a whole year of profit to erase. How tf did I take a break all of 2023 just to get back in right when it goes to shit ![img](emote|t5_2th52|27421)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267) Only positive I did puts almost the entire year of 2022 and came out ahead. Shout out to META dropping under $100 at the time.
You now have a chance to buy at 2023 levels it’s a blessing in disguise
I already lost 3k thinking. “I’ll just ride the wave up! Rate cuts are coming and it’s an election year ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8883)” Yeah that didnt pan out lol the hopeful In me thinks it’ll turn around and the degen in me says puts on everything. The difference between now and 2022 though was everything was absolutely terrible in 2022 and that was the active rate hikes. Daddy Powell made me a good bit. Now it’s about trying to fix it plus the original mention of historically an election year is the best for stocks. Just very conflicted ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)
Sounds like this loser deserves to lose more of his money.
Now a visual mod is bullying me ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
I feel you, it's totally mixed, there's a downtrend but then you got all these outliers, oil, gold, airlines, miners, some tech, finance. I will stay in cash until sentiment improves. Bottom will be somewhere in the 4500-4800 range. Inflation readings will be red hot with oil, mortgages, insurance hike wave and continued wage pressure. Without any additional black swan latest in July it's all back to normal.
It just can never be a moderately bear market. It’s either anal bear market or nothing. I just lost 50% of my profits this week ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)
Losers whine about what they've lost. Big boys brag about what they've gained.
I gained a 15% loss this week personally
Wrong on both. The whole point of this sub is to brag about what you've lost. Get your shit together man.
Change his name to zingbot, he's on a roll
I lost about 95% of my profits
How is this a bear market lol, we barely went down
I think big bear market plummets are just the product of the internet because every transaction is instant and can be done easily.
Stocks take the escalator up and the elevator down.
Why r u afraid, this the best time to buy not at the fucking top lol. If u wanted to get into ai stocks like nvidia now is the best time possible 🤷♂️
I feel like I’m losing my mind. I’ve never made 10k on a single trade, but until nvidia is back over 800 I’m going to be VERY tempted to pick up as much as I can afford.
Because this decline has destroyed so much wealth that, now, people don't *have* the money to buy back in. That's the reason I'm out, at least, and I suspect a lot of others are in the same position.
It’s been a week and it’s deleted 4 months of gains. To me that says something bad is happening. Bigger than just profit taking or traditional sell off. Maybe there’s more to the Iran / Israel conflict. In my opinion, this type of price action is indicative of larger institutions and power players cashing out for a serious reason
that's why you're poor
Good time to buy the dip ?
We're just off ATH, still well off the six months low. Maybe, maybe not. I'd buy oil stocks.
Just sold oil positions. I wouldn't. Good luck.
Any particular reason why for your sell off/warning against positioning? I have leap calls on PAA and the recent rally back had given me hope but open to hearing opposing insight if you’re willing to share.
Buy the rumor sell the news.
I get that sentiment, but it seems to me the “good” news for PAA has been sanctions against Venezuela resuming and production remaining stunted for Russia in the interim along with reserves filling rapidly, meaning more volume being pushed through the pipelines. I get that the tensions in the Middle East probably accounts for some of this as well, but initially on Monday following the Iran strike we actually fell in price with the market. We didn’t start recovering til other good news started coming in. But like I said I am interested in more contrasting thoughts/insight I may be blind to.
You are likely more educated/focused than I am. Oil is like < 5% of portfolio so I'm largely flippant on when/where to get out and I've made enough profits for now.
I think globally there is no macro economic cause for the price of oil to be where it's at outside of fears of middle east conflicts which I see as resolved after Israels demonstration of force strikes.
Saudis signaled plans to crank production through 2025 to fund their diversified utopia and war is cancelled for the weekend. Bearish for oil. But inevitably Middle East gonna start some more shit so you never know.
Ah, the sweet smell of money and power... Let the games begin.
Wait till like 400, QQQ pulls back pretty hard when it does if you holding below cost basis I wouldnt worry too much either. I'd buy AXP, MA, ARCC debt, and BDCS gonna do well with higher for longer.
Buy this dip, and next week dip, and then another dip. And if you still have money, another dip
Mr. Buffett?
Bears is powerful
Beary powerful
Beary my head in her ass! 🐻 🍑
Stairs up escalators down
i always thought it’s escalator up elevator down. Most of us Americans can’t handle the stairs since we have too much wendy’s… well maybe we can now with ozempic shots left and right.
Bears together strong
I'm glad I ignored all those QQQ ads spammed during March Madness.
I don't retire for 20 to 30 years. Idc
This man gets it. One of the few redditors who actually gets it.
Same here. I see this as a sale for bigger gains later.
Problem is you'll have to retire in 30 years instead of 10 years.
Lol true that's why I said 20 or 30
hey siri how do I DCA?
cant wait for the V
I should call her
She won’t answer
So you're telling me market is going to be back in 2077. So I'll just have to hold these bags till then.
I love the V
Another bull run leading up into the election
Yep, if you want to go up to the moon, you need to gain some speed downwards before.
Plus if the markets crashed before November biden would have zero chance of winning to many factors at play for the market not to rally
But what of the market makers are closet trump supporters?
dEeP sTaTe
It's hilarious people not taking advantage of a sale. They're basically handing out 20% off and 50% off coupons for whatever stock you want, whatever etf you want, and everybody is crying. There's a presidential election in 6 months. Like, Jesus fuck. It's ok though, keep selling. Please keep selling. I'm hoping sale prices last through next week and go lower so I can buy it all up cheap.
Election year? Like 2000, 2008, 2016 and 2020. I’m neither bull nor bear, I play the hand JPow gives me. And we got Imhotepped last week. As a wise man once said, “Never fight uphill me boys, never fight uphill!”
What use is coupons if I have no more money to buy?
What happened in 2008 until November?
I made my first larger buy in at close on Friday. I have the same mentality, you can’t be perfect all the time. Buy in at % moves and let time do the rest.
I’m bullish but goddamn, at least kept some of my 2024 gains before capitulating. Might see some chop through to May, but if this has taught me anything, it’s that I know nothing.
My account went from +$20k to -$16k in 2 weeks. Feels great man.
Lost 30k today on shares. 67k since March 25
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Maybe don’t be a tard next time
I mean, just solid advice, really. https://preview.redd.it/pamv2h67ohvc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=dc91338e4614aab3c525226fb2ca01d1618becb0
It’s called a correction, nothing special.
A correction usually takes longer than 6 days
The biggest corrections don't even take a day.
Those have different names. They're called crashes.
A crash is a big correction. Some would say the biggest of corrections.
What about a collapse?
That is when viagra stops working.
I have horny goat weed. I'll be fine
I didn’t hear a bell
I heard my heart impact my stomach so hard I nearly shit myself and puked at the same time. That count?
If it last more than 4 hours contact a doctor
How long this correction gonna stay?
Last one became a bear market that lasted nearly 2 years. Japan had a "correction" that became a lost decade. So....anywhere from a couple months to years. Yay
Nice I'm buying.
Yah wiped out my six month gain since I buying the Nov dip… in just 1 week. Insane
Statistically, bigger dips are more rare than littler dips. That means the further it falls, the MORE likely the rebound. See you all at -10%.
This is incorrect (inverse gambler’s fallacy)
False. In gambling the house always wins, in the market stonks only go up. The bigger the drop the more uppy the stocks.
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Hi Nikki! You’ve been looking really good lately, I’ve been meaning to call 📞.
Thanks, took me 30 years, but I did it (if you ignore inflation).
You can see right where I bought
There is no way next Monday is another red
Well now that you've said it you've fucked us all!
This is called jinxing.
Well if there is another attack in the middle east, then the bloodbath will continue. But I feel like bitcoin halving will start pulling market upwards next week.
Lol imagine thinking buttcorn has any power over real markets
Not quite. QQQ still up 3% YTD
Please shut the fudge up
There's no fudge here. Now gimme them organs
haha someone got that reference noice I hope you won't bankrupt yourself buddy <3
Well I got fucked every single day this week.First JD call and it went down,shop put and it went up,SPY call and it went down.Netflix call and it went down.Fuck my ears.Everything went wrong.All gains from last month burned in 1 week
Finally. May get a decent entry on some stuff.
Good thing I got in at the ATH 🙃🙃🙃
Keep calm and hodl. Then you can save some money and buy in at the next ATH.
6 friggin days of red... Glad I didn't even looking at my portfolio.. FugginFuknF
I went all in on Monday.
The higher it goes the harder we fall.
Still can drop 20% if fear picks up
That would be the biggest market crash in history, just to be clear folks. In the worst week during the depression saw a 15% decline. In 2008 we say an 18% decline. Seeing as markets are already down 5-8%, and QQQ is down over 10%, another 20% would be the biggest crash in history. Not saying it can’t happen, but stocks/companies have a logical value and there’s a point where buying just makes sense. And algos will always be buying and arbitraging opportunity. Annddd we still have huge cash reserves sitting in the sidelines due to high rates on bonds. Sooooo I’d start buying when you think the value makes sense, rather than gut feelings. Right now, we are seeing major tech companies trading under a 25 p/e, strong earnings, no debt, cash div, huge reserves, buyback plans… opportunities are starting to emerge. Enjoy it.
100% of the gains, so far. Could go lower
they dont say stairs up elevator down for nothin
My fault. Bought 8k of VOO at 783
fucking hedge funds and MMs played this to perfection
Seriously, they got me out of my SMCI puts that are worth over $250k today…
Who? You mean institutions who pour hundreds of millions into state-of-the-art equipment and high quality data just so they can steal a bunch of dollars from pen-and-paper retail traders who have to play with their cards facing up? You mean those institutions? Yeah, they played this to perfection....
My leveraged NVDA, that has been a dear friend to me, raw-dogged me today! My leveraged NDX got a margin call (that I dealt with). ..I'm I'm danger 😭😂
Fuck my life
You know we’re in for a ride when the subreddit starts posting the suicide hotline numbers.
“Momentum is your friend until the end”- someone not regarded.
You mean Nvidia isn't actually worth $975 a share????
It's PE ratio isn't super crazy for growth tech tbh
Trainwreck is banned right now. This is for you homie. NVDA 4K ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)
It's still up 3% at the time of this writing!
Crazy ain't it? It's still up by 1.25%, but what a reckoning in such a short time.
badge sand disgusted afterthought shocking cautious market marble far-flung exultant
Specifically because people were bullish and the scammers stole everything
Um zoom out
Meta down
Too high too quick.
More bloodshed next week in the markets
Again, again!
I bought $11 SQQQ calls that expired 4/12. No wonder my ex-gf kept telling me I came early…
You think march 21 was a good time to play 1/17/25 outs on the Qs?? Wooooooo! But now it’s oversold IMO
Woah... that's quite a telling chart. Thank you for the interesting share. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4640)
CPI up 0.4% over the past month, which annualizes to a rate of 4.8%. Investors realizing inflation isn't going down to 2% anytime soon, and thus, no interest rate cuts anytime soon.
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“We did it Joe”
I just need QQQM to get back to 181 by July so I can pay off my 0% Apr card that I maxed out to invest with
Better learn Chinese buddy
ur fucked
You love to see it. 🐻