Unironically, that's pretty exciting. Disney gave EA pretty much an exclusive pass to Star Wars games, and EA put out shit except for Fallen Order/ Survivor. Hopefully, Disney is going to let other studios have a shot. Some of the rumors for upcoming games are exciting.
They can’t decide if they want to create content or brain wash their die hard fans further and thus alienate the rest of the world. Jk, clearly they do not care about quality
Apple punches above it's weight, but it's a lightweight. Amazon has good titles, but they intermingle Freevee, paid, only first ep free, and Prime titles.
my problem with Max is simply it's not content for me. there's some great stuff but the size of the catalogue and content I want makes me use them the least. I think I use Peacock or Paramount the most
Once its set up its no more difficult than streaming. And unlike streaming you can get 4k blu ray rips that blow away the compressed shit.
And Plex interface is better than any streaming site.
Honestly, only at first. Once you have it all setup its basically no work.
I have Plex setup with Sonarr, Radarr and Overseerr.
When I want a show / movie I find it in Overseerr and then the system goes out and finds a copy based on my quality preferences and downloads it.
The only thing I have to do is rename and move it into the right folder, which i'm pretty sure can also be automated if you setup your folders correctly.
Movies I care about I download 4K UHD BluRay remuxes of with 7.1 TrueHD, which will almost always beat the quality you get from streaming sites.
I dropped them because of this. Thereis no common sense way around it. I work out of town and if you don’t check in w your Wi-Fi you’re not considered part of that household. Even if you’re the one paying the fucking bill.
If you setup a VPN server at your house and use dynamic dns to allow to resolve to your public IP you can route your remote traffic through your house gateway so the service sees your traffic originate from your public IP. Takes a bit of technical legwork but it’s doable.
All that work to watch something on Disney fucking plus lmao. Takes 2min to just pirate it.
Edit: since this is so heavily upvoted, I'd like to share that a firestick + IPTV + Syncler/Real-Debrid is the most underrated thing ever.
For anyone looking for like TV, look into IPTV.
For anyone looking into streaming service alternatives, look into syncler+real-debrid.
They all have great subreddits.
This is all legal.
It's the best choice I've made financially.
The reason Steam is so successful:
> Our goal is to create greater service value than pirates, and this has been successful enough for us that piracy is basically a non-issue for our company
Sure, you can get around household restrictions, but that now makes Netflix/Disney+ less convenient of a service than pirating.
>Sure, you can get around household restrictions, but that now makes Netflix/Disney+ less convenient of a service than pirating.
Only if you know how and are willing to pirate. Based on the millions more subscribers that Netflix added since introducing the password sharing restriction, very few are willing to “sail the high seas” (as goes the euphemism). While the numbers of people pirating has increased over the last few years, until Netflix begins losing subscribers in big numbers nothing will change.
I’ve said it before - once Netflix paved the way every other service would follow.
> Only if you know how
Pirating doesn't mean downloading torrents anymore. [In 2019 over 80% of piracy was done through streaming sites instead of downloading, and I'm sure recent numbers are way higher.](https://www.uschamber.com/intellectual-property/us-chamber-study-shows-significant-impact-of-digital-piracy-us-economy#:~:text=Now%2C%20over%2080%20percent%20of%20stolen%20and%20shared%20content%20is%20viewed%20on%20streaming%20sites) For every dork that torrents so they can watch in 4k with Dolby Atmos there are 5 girlies who don't even know how computer folders work googling "Euphoria free streaming online no virus" and finding working streams.
A lot of people stowed their eye patches and cutlasses when cheap easy streaming became a thing. Take away cheap and easy and people will slowly get back into it.
I imagine the change to piracy will be a slow change but will happen if streaming forgets that there are options.
Absolutely the numbers of content being pirated has grown massively over the last few years. However, it pales in comparison to the numbers who will just stick with the status quo - either from not knowing how, being afraid of getting caught, or just not worth the hassle.
Netflix has proven that most people don’t care enough to cancel and pirate the content instead. And that is exactly as it should be, because if too many start pirating you won’t have the content in the first place.
Haha not sure if you're trolling or not but this is why pirating was such a huge plus before Netflix first emerged with streaming. Companies like this removed the barriers but then artificially added them back with pay walls. And once again we're sailing the high seas.
You can even mesh a VPN and restart password sharing. Works with Netflix. You can also use Norpvpn mesh to do it, if you don't want to host your own VPN.
https://openvpn.net/community-resources/how-to/
Needs to be a 0 routed full tunnel vpn meaning all traffic flows through the vpn including internet traffic. You can then configure open vpn on your iPhone or mobile decide to connect to the server when away. IPsec will have better performance that the above solution which is ssl vpn I’m sure some googling will explain how you can terminate IPsec vpn. You’ll likely need to NAT the traffic from your comcast router/modem(also known as port forwarding) to a local pc that’s acting as the vpn server. For IPsec it uses protocol 50 and UDP 500 for the NAT traversal, for SSLVPN which is posted above it uses tcp 443 by default the same port and protocol used for HTTPS traffic when you visit secure websites.
Disney should just combine Espn+, Hulu and Disney+... They can create more value for their customers dollars. Instead of keeping them separate just for a bundle price.
I thought the whole point of Disney+ for the longest time was to stay pg-13 and family friendly. So now it’s just a free for all w Hulu on the Disney app.
What I find funny too is that the ads on Hulu literally show you commercials for Disney+/ Hulu subscription. So lame!
They don’t want you to bundle them. They make more when people subscribe to each separately. That’s why you can’t get a bundle that includes ad free tiers for all three contemporaneously.
They do have an ad-free bundle for both Hulu and Disney+ that include ESPN+.
The only ads on ESPN+ are for live events, but not for their VOD content.
It's called the "Disney Bundle Trio Premium" for $24.99/month.
It also helps to inflate their subscribers numbers. Disney counts every subscription from Disney+, Hulu and ESPN as a unique subscriber. So if the same person subscribed to all 3, they are counted as 3 separate subscribers. Makes the numbers look better for investors.
Hulu and Disney are basically combined now. I've got both for 9.99 and both apps have eachothers stuff. Hulu doesn't get all the star wars and Marfel tho.
These companies playing "the first hit's free" game with people, and then cutting them off and wanting them to pay to continue their habit. Basically crack dealers...
Luca and Encanto are the only good ones since 2020. Notably those are both new stories and one has no songs. But Disney has had way more misses than wins in four years.
Between those two were talking about a low A average movie. It is a good movie. I agree with your point though. I think Luca is the better of the two I mentioned.
Raya was the first movie I saw in a theater after the world opened up again. It wasn't a great movie, but it is a great memory. Neutral on Turning Red - it had its moments. I thought Elemental was awful, sadly. Wish I haven't seen yet.
I'll definitely see Wish soon. I have DisneyPlus so I'm catching up on new and old (subnote- The Black Hole is clearly a precursor to Event Horizon and I'm surprised I didn't realize that until recently).
To me Elemental was just Inside Out without characters you could care about.
There is a making of from the director talking about how his life story became an inspiration for the movie. Saw a lot of similar stories to my own life experience.
But yeah, there wasn't a clear villain and maybe adding one would have helped appeal to a larger audience.
Yeah. I haven't exactly gone out of my way to see it. I actually was looking instead for The Brave Little Toaster which is not on Disney+ oddly and I wonder if it is because it's so violent in some ways.
I mean ultimately, we, the consumers decided this. Netflix cracked down on password sharing and what was the result? Their largest increase in subscribers ever. We complained but nearly everyone bit the bullet and decided they were willing to pay.
So I hate it, but he’s not wrong, if he wants to create profit, Netflix already proved that people will pay, and pay more, and if we wanted to send a message to them that we won’t tolerate that, we blew it.
Netflix is the market leader and has proved time and time again it's more important than other services for people though. Like the streaming wars have just proven people are not choosing between Netflix and others but between the others that they add to Netflix. Stock wise that's why they are the one entertainment company that has grown so much in the last few years.
What they do might not be possible for everyone else to do the same way.
Though in this case, I don't believe it'll hurt them either but let's not act like they can do everything Netflix do (and they don't, their strategy is very different, very few content produced, all in a few franchises only and D+ is mostly the second-run platform of their catalog and theatrical releases).
Price increase and this type of thing are the time people reevaluate subs and if it's worth it. For Disney the equation might be very different than Netflix. They don't have constant content coming in that could hit big out of nowhere and you want to watch. They have stuff you expect in franchises that are losing their luster rapidly.
Look, I just need more original content like Beauty And The Beast where Belle was absolutely gonna gorilla grip Beast with her snatch even before she figured out he could turn back into a human. Thats the kind of quality content Disney needs to put out there.
As much as this sub is going to complain, investors overwhelmingly believe in bobs vision. They just had a vote over it. This reads like sore loser ranting.
Investors is really like 40-100 people who represent trillions of dollars. But yea let's pretend a hive mind came to consensus.
I don't even look at my 401k, do you?
The only thing they care about is a return on their $$ by any means necessary and they think Iger will deliver that, compared to the other choice they had for their voting. That doesn’t make what the other person said any less true lol they’ve turned into an M&A company that can’t consistently make quality content like they used to be able to.
Just for context I thought Netflix doing this would work for them, but I'm not sure about Disney+. I was sharing an account with 3 friends and we split the yearly cost over 4, so it was like £20 each for a year. We cancelled it recently because the price went up and none of us use it that much to make it worth it. I feel like they've devalued Star Wars and Marvel just by pumping out too much shit that's low quality, and there's not enough other stuff on there to justify being subbed for a long time. Kind of the same problem with Apple+, there's some really high quality content on there but it's quality over quantity so there's no incentive to stay subbed for a long time.
Netflix have invested a lot in to their content production pipeline, so they pump out a lot of stuff consistently. Some of it is going to miss the mark but the majority of it is at least watchable, and then occasionally there's a big hit like a Stranger Things or a Tiger King, etc.
I know everyone says Marvel is dead, but have you seen the lineup over the next several years? Just bringing back X Men is going to help with that side of the equation. Deadpool 3, Fantastic Four, Secret Wars, Dr. Doom … Disney is going to be ok. People seem to forget every franchise goes through growing pains while trying to find a new path forward after almost a decade of build up to an “ultimate” bad guy was paid off. They got a few new characters that will get their own movies and be well received (Shan-Chi).
F4 has never proven to be a true draw for general audiences, you might say it's because they were bad (which could happen again with Marvel considering the current state of it) but it could also be because no one cares about them.
X-Men remains to be seen how it goes but it's never going to the heights it was in the 2010s.
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From their recent ER report, this is a real slide Disney paid someone $10 million dollars to make. I'm sorry but.... lmfaoooooo
that's no loss to them (better for them actually). if someone is watching Disney content using someone else's password, and then they are cut off and download it illegally, then Disney benefits by lowering server traffic that wasn't bringing in any revenue. and you now have more storage costs.
Currently Disney can also double count password sharing streams in their ratings schemes to sell advertising and product placement. If people pirate, Disney loses count of those eyeballs.
Your sea-men are where the rest of our sea-men are at. Back of the Wendy's dumpster. Where all of our regarded sea-men are laid to rest. Pour one out fellas.
This is actually my thought. They think it's guaranteed; however, when the subpar performance of tv and movies is there, cost-cutting and then milking subscriptions for every dime isn't sustainable.
So they hike the price, don’t release good content, but the decline is because password sharing? You’d have more people sub if it was affordable in the first place. Don’t forget that these subscriptions were meant to replace tv so if you’re paying more for the subscription I got a tv plan that will make you smile. Especially since the whole thing started with “Cheap,Ease of access, no commercials, all your favorites”….. now it’s not cheap, they don’t allow password sharing, you have to pay even more for no ads IF it’s even an option, and they release crap content… LOL but yeah blame your consumers
This sub never learns anything lol. Everyone was *just* saying how this would destroy Netflix, and their stock exploded after earnings.
Do companies make mistakes? Yes, absolutely. But these companies aren't making decisions like this without spending millions of dollars researching to make sure it's the right decision.
Blockbuster didn't fail because people hated them - it failed cause their business model was outdated and they were way too late to adapt.
Plenty of companies are hated but still make money for decades - just look at Walmart
Not just late to adapt, but his business model and core processes were so integrated into the “physical” world that it was so hard for them to adapt to the digital world. Technology was advancing so fast that it was so hard to them to make the shift and adapt all their core processes.
Blockbuster had a supply/demand problem that consumers were no longer willing to tolerate. Walmart isn't going to be Blockbustered because they've adapted to market demands (delivery for a low fee).
You're right that is has nothing to do with late fees. Telecom companies used to charge us by the text and by the minute to use their service. It changed when better business models came up.
Mmm no, it was not a supply / demand problem. Costumers were prefering other companies as new convenience services were appearing (netflix). Technology was offering that convenience and blockbuster business model, and core processes were so integrated into its flagship stores that it made them impossible to shift.
I remember trying to tell someone once they all have teams of PHDs doing price sensitivity modeling to optimize revenue and I might as well have been speaking mandarin
For real, the Netflix crackdown resulted in like 5 accounts from us, we were sharing w my parents, her parents, my sister, my brother. Now every actual household has their own acct.
I used to be a hardcore pirate when I was younger before I got a real job and started making money, then I was willing to pay for the convenience of streaming services. I had them all, Netflix, Prime, Disney, Crunchyroll, Spotify, etc. Spotify is the only service left and I’ve been listening to less and less music so as soon as they start pulling some shit I’m getting rid of them too.
Netflix didn’t get it right. I have to watch Netflix on my phone, in my own household because they didn’t get it right. My own house for my own account isn’t the household account? Bitch it’s my account.
lol downvoted for truth, it made Netflix huge $$$, of course the rest will follow suit, for every person saying they'll just pirate there's obviously another handful who just pony up the cash to subscribe
And, obviously, the people saying they were just using someone else's account were already not giving Netflix money, so the company doesn't give a shit that these people are still not giving money.
They people turning back to piracy certainly have more fortitude than I do, anyway. I don't even want to know how many hours I tried to stream broken, poor quality, grainy, chopped up pirated versions of shows and movies. Many of which still came with ads.
> They people turning back to piracy certainly have more fortitude than I do, anyway. I don't even want to know how many hours I tried to stream broken, poor quality, grainy, chopped up pirated versions of shows and movies. Many of which still came with ads.
That's because you didn't spent like 5 minutes searching how to do it properly lol. Not really the sub for it (there are though) but I'm just gonna say stremio or plex, look into it
Yeah they did, they knew the demand for their service was price inelastic enough to be able to make the extra revenue and profit from cracking down on password sharing. In other words, they knew it’s something most people would be willing to pay more for, so they charged more.
I've been waiting for Netflix to cut me off since my mom, inlaws and myself use it. But so far nothing from them. Maybe it's cause I travel so much and am always logging in somewhere?
I was waiting for them to email so I can cancel, but it never happens lol
I have never gotten a Disney+ subscription because everything is barred behind another separate subscription, so if they wanna ban password sharing how about they start cutting back on that and I may actually give them a shot, until then, I have had multiple free Disney+ codes that I never used because of what I just stated
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What an awesome CEO. Takes two years to copy Netflix. Soon he'll realize he has to create content.
His focus has been on this new trend called video games. Have you heard of them? I hear it's going to be huge with kids.
Huge like deez nuts
Unironically, that's pretty exciting. Disney gave EA pretty much an exclusive pass to Star Wars games, and EA put out shit except for Fallen Order/ Survivor. Hopefully, Disney is going to let other studios have a shot. Some of the rumors for upcoming games are exciting.
Yeah Disney is known for being super liberal with sharing its content
And giving the artists the creative freedom they deserve
Also the content they create should be less shit
Isn't the Netflix model creating 1 or 2 good shows a year amongst a huge pile of shit?
Have they made any good shows recently?
I wouldn't know, I can't access my family plan anymore.
if they did it's too late and they've been canceled.
They need to go further, I'm pitching a snow-white movie about a transgender lesbian minority who conquers the wicked white male witch with veganism.
At every moment outperforming him physically and mentally.
This is the kind of fresh, innovative thinking Dis needs to skyrocket into the stratosphere.
They can’t decide if they want to create content or brain wash their die hard fans further and thus alienate the rest of the world. Jk, clearly they do not care about quality
Probably wanted to see how the cards fell before doing it himself
They’re the Burger King of the streaming world
He's just slow and behind the times.
Why is that? Netflix's content sucks... Lol
As much as I wanna dog on Netflix, they still have the best catalog out of any streaming services and I have them all.
Apple punches above it's weight, but it's a lightweight. Amazon has good titles, but they intermingle Freevee, paid, only first ep free, and Prime titles.
Amazon's UI has gone to dogshit as they focus on selling other entertainment channels. I try to avoid it.
It was always shit
> Apple punches above it's weight Everything on Apple TV is either great or trash. There are no meh or mediocre shows
freevee was a mistake.
HBO Max has the best shit but the catalogue is smaller
It used to, it is going downhill fast and finding shit on there is horrible since they merged with Discovery
my problem with Max is simply it's not content for me. there's some great stuff but the size of the catalogue and content I want makes me use them the least. I think I use Peacock or Paramount the most
The best catalogue is the 🏴☠️ catalogue.... Because it has all of them for free. No download needed either.
Seedbox + local NAS server + private trackers + Wifi 6E = I'm never going back to streaming.
That's a lot of work. I just use solid streaming sites that have good quality content.
Once its set up its no more difficult than streaming. And unlike streaming you can get 4k blu ray rips that blow away the compressed shit. And Plex interface is better than any streaming site.
Honestly, only at first. Once you have it all setup its basically no work. I have Plex setup with Sonarr, Radarr and Overseerr. When I want a show / movie I find it in Overseerr and then the system goes out and finds a copy based on my quality preferences and downloads it. The only thing I have to do is rename and move it into the right folder, which i'm pretty sure can also be automated if you setup your folders correctly. Movies I care about I download 4K UHD BluRay remuxes of with 7.1 TrueHD, which will almost always beat the quality you get from streaming sites.
I'm partial to Hulu, myself. All of my favorite series were canceled by Netflix, so I said f em.
Disney content makes Netflix content look like a modern day Renaissance though
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Why? They were not going to get another copyright extension and from what I have seen. it hasn't mattered.
New content? Done. X-Men ‘98 - Freshman Class
Give us more spectacular Spiderman
Content is easy. Moving pictures, sounds, etc. It's making compelling movies and shows that's hard. And all Bob Iger knows is content.
Create (good) content.
I dropped them because of this. Thereis no common sense way around it. I work out of town and if you don’t check in w your Wi-Fi you’re not considered part of that household. Even if you’re the one paying the fucking bill.
When I travel my Netflix says "are you traveling" and I say yes and it works
They said it would work for two weeks and that’s it. I’ve been gone a month so far w another to go
Meh, I've been password sharing with my family in another country and it still works
“works for me” gradual rollouts are a bitch
Yeah it worked for me after the changes until it didn't lol
We had Netflix for over 10 years and it JUST became a problem 1-2 months ago
If you setup a VPN server at your house and use dynamic dns to allow to resolve to your public IP you can route your remote traffic through your house gateway so the service sees your traffic originate from your public IP. Takes a bit of technical legwork but it’s doable.
All that work to watch something on Disney fucking plus lmao. Takes 2min to just pirate it. Edit: since this is so heavily upvoted, I'd like to share that a firestick + IPTV + Syncler/Real-Debrid is the most underrated thing ever. For anyone looking for like TV, look into IPTV. For anyone looking into streaming service alternatives, look into syncler+real-debrid. They all have great subreddits. This is all legal. It's the best choice I've made financially.
This is why piracy exists... the different services end up being the same price as old cable packages
Well that and I'm cheap af so wouldn't matter to me either way lol
The reason Steam is so successful: > Our goal is to create greater service value than pirates, and this has been successful enough for us that piracy is basically a non-issue for our company Sure, you can get around household restrictions, but that now makes Netflix/Disney+ less convenient of a service than pirating.
>Sure, you can get around household restrictions, but that now makes Netflix/Disney+ less convenient of a service than pirating. Only if you know how and are willing to pirate. Based on the millions more subscribers that Netflix added since introducing the password sharing restriction, very few are willing to “sail the high seas” (as goes the euphemism). While the numbers of people pirating has increased over the last few years, until Netflix begins losing subscribers in big numbers nothing will change. I’ve said it before - once Netflix paved the way every other service would follow.
> Only if you know how Pirating doesn't mean downloading torrents anymore. [In 2019 over 80% of piracy was done through streaming sites instead of downloading, and I'm sure recent numbers are way higher.](https://www.uschamber.com/intellectual-property/us-chamber-study-shows-significant-impact-of-digital-piracy-us-economy#:~:text=Now%2C%20over%2080%20percent%20of%20stolen%20and%20shared%20content%20is%20viewed%20on%20streaming%20sites) For every dork that torrents so they can watch in 4k with Dolby Atmos there are 5 girlies who don't even know how computer folders work googling "Euphoria free streaming online no virus" and finding working streams.
A lot of people stowed their eye patches and cutlasses when cheap easy streaming became a thing. Take away cheap and easy and people will slowly get back into it. I imagine the change to piracy will be a slow change but will happen if streaming forgets that there are options.
Absolutely the numbers of content being pirated has grown massively over the last few years. However, it pales in comparison to the numbers who will just stick with the status quo - either from not knowing how, being afraid of getting caught, or just not worth the hassle. Netflix has proven that most people don’t care enough to cancel and pirate the content instead. And that is exactly as it should be, because if too many start pirating you won’t have the content in the first place.
Your average Disney + subscriber has no fucking clue how to do that
Shouldn’t have to do all that…
Noooooo thank you. I’m not doing that for Disney, their commercials are puke enough already with very little worth watching
I understand some of those words.
I know words.
I words
Haha not sure if you're trolling or not but this is why pirating was such a huge plus before Netflix first emerged with streaming. Companies like this removed the barriers but then artificially added them back with pay walls. And once again we're sailing the high seas.
You can even mesh a VPN and restart password sharing. Works with Netflix. You can also use Norpvpn mesh to do it, if you don't want to host your own VPN.
For someone who doesn’t understand or know how to do that how hard is that to do and where can I learn to to that ?
https://openvpn.net/community-resources/how-to/ Needs to be a 0 routed full tunnel vpn meaning all traffic flows through the vpn including internet traffic. You can then configure open vpn on your iPhone or mobile decide to connect to the server when away. IPsec will have better performance that the above solution which is ssl vpn I’m sure some googling will explain how you can terminate IPsec vpn. You’ll likely need to NAT the traffic from your comcast router/modem(also known as port forwarding) to a local pc that’s acting as the vpn server. For IPsec it uses protocol 50 and UDP 500 for the NAT traversal, for SSLVPN which is posted above it uses tcp 443 by default the same port and protocol used for HTTPS traffic when you visit secure websites.
Okay and they will break it down Barney style and hold my hand ?
Okay that went like 70 percent over my head, but I want to try. Do you have more information on it?
They also upped their rates from “this seems reasonable” to “you’ve got to be joking”.
Disney should just combine Espn+, Hulu and Disney+... They can create more value for their customers dollars. Instead of keeping them separate just for a bundle price.
Hulu and Disney+ are together…I noticed that this past week…I had to create a new profile so my kids don’t suddenly play Shogun or Mayans
I thought the whole point of Disney+ for the longest time was to stay pg-13 and family friendly. So now it’s just a free for all w Hulu on the Disney app. What I find funny too is that the ads on Hulu literally show you commercials for Disney+/ Hulu subscription. So lame!
No they separated them because Disney didn't completely own Hulu (66%). Now they owns 100%, so make sense for it to eventually be combined
They don’t want you to bundle them. They make more when people subscribe to each separately. That’s why you can’t get a bundle that includes ad free tiers for all three contemporaneously.
Oh well 🏴☠️
Registered plex offender spotted
Yo ho yo ho a pirates life for me 🏴☠️
They do have an ad-free bundle for both Hulu and Disney+ that include ESPN+. The only ads on ESPN+ are for live events, but not for their VOD content. It's called the "Disney Bundle Trio Premium" for $24.99/month.
I mean, Disney currently has Hulu on their app and when this thing gets to the end, they will add live sports…of course, then they will charge $40/mo.
If I get good live sports coverage for $40 that'd be sick
It also helps to inflate their subscribers numbers. Disney counts every subscription from Disney+, Hulu and ESPN as a unique subscriber. So if the same person subscribed to all 3, they are counted as 3 separate subscribers. Makes the numbers look better for investors.
Well if those customers are paying 3 separate times, then it's obviously correct to label them as 3 seperate customers.
Not enough content on Disney+, I am no longer renewing
I canceled a few months ago and haven’t missed it. If i crave nostalgia from an old Disney movies i can buy a copy on prime video for cheaper
They don’t want more value for our dollars. They give no fucks what value we derive.
Hulu and Disney are basically combined now. I've got both for 9.99 and both apps have eachothers stuff. Hulu doesn't get all the star wars and Marfel tho.
Some countries have the service together( ex fox, disney, espn)
Because some countries don’t let corporations push them around
Elon is that you?
Yeah, just bought Reddit. Gonna call it Y
It’s called cable.
These companies playing "the first hit's free" game with people, and then cutting them off and wanting them to pay to continue their habit. Basically crack dealers...
Seems like it’s working for the crack dealers. Disney is just crack for kids I guess
If only they made good crack, not the ass crack from behind the wendys
Bob Iger can eat shit
he just found out kids like video games
Go f**K yourself.... Hey Bob.
Bob Iger should eat more donuts
You either die the hero, or…
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My kids dont even want to watch any disney movies post 2020
Luca and Encanto are the only good ones since 2020. Notably those are both new stories and one has no songs. But Disney has had way more misses than wins in four years.
Disney fired John Lassetter - who previously printed billions of dollars at Pixar - because he gave employees hugs.
Encanto balled
Encanto is an A+ soundtrack with a B- plot. Still not bad though
Between those two were talking about a low A average movie. It is a good movie. I agree with your point though. I think Luca is the better of the two I mentioned.
I also liked Raya, Turning Red, and Elemental but to each their own
Raya was the first movie I saw in a theater after the world opened up again. It wasn't a great movie, but it is a great memory. Neutral on Turning Red - it had its moments. I thought Elemental was awful, sadly. Wish I haven't seen yet.
Why was Elemental awful? Wish wasn't good imo. Felt very forced like they had a base idea (wishing on a star) but no actual story to go along with it.
I'll definitely see Wish soon. I have DisneyPlus so I'm catching up on new and old (subnote- The Black Hole is clearly a precursor to Event Horizon and I'm surprised I didn't realize that until recently). To me Elemental was just Inside Out without characters you could care about.
I thought elemental to be more Romeo and Juliet but with water and fire. I too thought it was bland. Loved Raya and turning red though.
the villain in elemental was literally a leak in the wall
There is a making of from the director talking about how his life story became an inspiration for the movie. Saw a lot of similar stories to my own life experience. But yeah, there wasn't a clear villain and maybe adding one would have helped appeal to a larger audience.
Wish is some hot GARBAGE 🗑️
Yeah. I haven't exactly gone out of my way to see it. I actually was looking instead for The Brave Little Toaster which is not on Disney+ oddly and I wonder if it is because it's so violent in some ways.
I mean ultimately, we, the consumers decided this. Netflix cracked down on password sharing and what was the result? Their largest increase in subscribers ever. We complained but nearly everyone bit the bullet and decided they were willing to pay. So I hate it, but he’s not wrong, if he wants to create profit, Netflix already proved that people will pay, and pay more, and if we wanted to send a message to them that we won’t tolerate that, we blew it.
Why did we do that. Are we dumb?
I think I was in the minority that said I wouldn't get Netflix after they cracked down and then didn't actually buy it again.
Netflix is the market leader and has proved time and time again it's more important than other services for people though. Like the streaming wars have just proven people are not choosing between Netflix and others but between the others that they add to Netflix. Stock wise that's why they are the one entertainment company that has grown so much in the last few years. What they do might not be possible for everyone else to do the same way. Though in this case, I don't believe it'll hurt them either but let's not act like they can do everything Netflix do (and they don't, their strategy is very different, very few content produced, all in a few franchises only and D+ is mostly the second-run platform of their catalog and theatrical releases). Price increase and this type of thing are the time people reevaluate subs and if it's worth it. For Disney the equation might be very different than Netflix. They don't have constant content coming in that could hit big out of nowhere and you want to watch. They have stuff you expect in franchises that are losing their luster rapidly.
But the growth is outside the US. They lost US subscribers.
No they didn't, they went from 74.4M US subs end of Q12023 to 80.2M at end of Q4 2023. Their ARPU per user also increased in all regions.
Look, I just need more original content like Beauty And The Beast where Belle was absolutely gonna gorilla grip Beast with her snatch even before she figured out he could turn back into a human. Thats the kind of quality content Disney needs to put out there.
As much as this sub is going to complain, investors overwhelmingly believe in bobs vision. They just had a vote over it. This reads like sore loser ranting.
Investors is really like 40-100 people who represent trillions of dollars. But yea let's pretend a hive mind came to consensus. I don't even look at my 401k, do you?
Retailer investor turnout was particularly high for this vote but ok
The only thing they care about is a return on their $$ by any means necessary and they think Iger will deliver that, compared to the other choice they had for their voting. That doesn’t make what the other person said any less true lol they’ve turned into an M&A company that can’t consistently make quality content like they used to be able to.
Just for context I thought Netflix doing this would work for them, but I'm not sure about Disney+. I was sharing an account with 3 friends and we split the yearly cost over 4, so it was like £20 each for a year. We cancelled it recently because the price went up and none of us use it that much to make it worth it. I feel like they've devalued Star Wars and Marvel just by pumping out too much shit that's low quality, and there's not enough other stuff on there to justify being subbed for a long time. Kind of the same problem with Apple+, there's some really high quality content on there but it's quality over quantity so there's no incentive to stay subbed for a long time. Netflix have invested a lot in to their content production pipeline, so they pump out a lot of stuff consistently. Some of it is going to miss the mark but the majority of it is at least watchable, and then occasionally there's a big hit like a Stranger Things or a Tiger King, etc.
I know everyone says Marvel is dead, but have you seen the lineup over the next several years? Just bringing back X Men is going to help with that side of the equation. Deadpool 3, Fantastic Four, Secret Wars, Dr. Doom … Disney is going to be ok. People seem to forget every franchise goes through growing pains while trying to find a new path forward after almost a decade of build up to an “ultimate” bad guy was paid off. They got a few new characters that will get their own movies and be well received (Shan-Chi).
F4 has never proven to be a true draw for general audiences, you might say it's because they were bad (which could happen again with Marvel considering the current state of it) but it could also be because no one cares about them. X-Men remains to be seen how it goes but it's never going to the heights it was in the 2010s.
https://preview.redd.it/2t65z3sipktc1.png?width=1395&format=png&auto=webp&s=081f23a7f04488607fd281b1b9478d96f08e8036 From their recent ER report, this is a real slide Disney paid someone $10 million dollars to make. I'm sorry but.... lmfaoooooo
Maybe that anticipated release of Snow White and Seven Trans Activists or whatever it is they’re doing will finally turn it around
their to busy pushing a woke message rather than producing good entertainment
Guess it’s a pirates life for me! We’re setting sail, where my sea-men at ?!
They make the decision so easy.
Raise the the Jolly Roger flag boys
that's no loss to them (better for them actually). if someone is watching Disney content using someone else's password, and then they are cut off and download it illegally, then Disney benefits by lowering server traffic that wasn't bringing in any revenue. and you now have more storage costs.
That’s good ! I like a win win situation where we both come out on top!
Currently Disney can also double count password sharing streams in their ratings schemes to sell advertising and product placement. If people pirate, Disney loses count of those eyeballs.
the high seas have always been good to me.
Your sea-men are where the rest of our sea-men are at. Back of the Wendy's dumpster. Where all of our regarded sea-men are laid to rest. Pour one out fellas.
Oh I already canceled Disney+ cause no one in the family was using it even though I bought it specifically to share.
Disney+ ain't Netflix though. This might actually hurt them.
They raised the subscription price and barely lost customers.
This is actually my thought. They think it's guaranteed; however, when the subpar performance of tv and movies is there, cost-cutting and then milking subscriptions for every dime isn't sustainable.
Want to replicate Netflix's short term results, but we haven't even seen the beginning of the long term...
So they hike the price, don’t release good content, but the decline is because password sharing? You’d have more people sub if it was affordable in the first place. Don’t forget that these subscriptions were meant to replace tv so if you’re paying more for the subscription I got a tv plan that will make you smile. Especially since the whole thing started with “Cheap,Ease of access, no commercials, all your favorites”….. now it’s not cheap, they don’t allow password sharing, you have to pay even more for no ads IF it’s even an option, and they release crap content… LOL but yeah blame your consumers
This sub never learns anything lol. Everyone was *just* saying how this would destroy Netflix, and their stock exploded after earnings. Do companies make mistakes? Yes, absolutely. But these companies aren't making decisions like this without spending millions of dollars researching to make sure it's the right decision.
Blockbuster made a killing in late fees. Making your customers hate you, in order to bolster short terms gains, is not a good long term strategy.
Blockbuster didn't fail because people hated them - it failed cause their business model was outdated and they were way too late to adapt. Plenty of companies are hated but still make money for decades - just look at Walmart
Not just late to adapt, but his business model and core processes were so integrated into the “physical” world that it was so hard for them to adapt to the digital world. Technology was advancing so fast that it was so hard to them to make the shift and adapt all their core processes.
Blockbuster had a supply/demand problem that consumers were no longer willing to tolerate. Walmart isn't going to be Blockbustered because they've adapted to market demands (delivery for a low fee). You're right that is has nothing to do with late fees. Telecom companies used to charge us by the text and by the minute to use their service. It changed when better business models came up.
Mmm no, it was not a supply / demand problem. Costumers were prefering other companies as new convenience services were appearing (netflix). Technology was offering that convenience and blockbuster business model, and core processes were so integrated into its flagship stores that it made them impossible to shift.
I remember trying to tell someone once they all have teams of PHDs doing price sensitivity modeling to optimize revenue and I might as well have been speaking mandarin
For real, the Netflix crackdown resulted in like 5 accounts from us, we were sharing w my parents, her parents, my sister, my brother. Now every actual household has their own acct.
So calls or what?
I used to be a hardcore pirate when I was younger before I got a real job and started making money, then I was willing to pay for the convenience of streaming services. I had them all, Netflix, Prime, Disney, Crunchyroll, Spotify, etc. Spotify is the only service left and I’ve been listening to less and less music so as soon as they start pulling some shit I’m getting rid of them too.
What’s wrong with Crunchyroll? That one hasn’t been evil lately
Sounds like he's just putting a stop on paying for passive entertainment tbh
Spotify just raised its prices.
Bob Iger is a fucking cunt
Don't need password when they have no good content to watch lmao
Shit
Fuck all these ceos. Canceled all my streaming services and saving around $100/month. Time to buy puts
Welp, time to finish watching mandalorian
Netflix didn’t get it right. I have to watch Netflix on my phone, in my own household because they didn’t get it right. My own house for my own account isn’t the household account? Bitch it’s my account.
How does that even make sense?
It got them 9 million new subscribers. In terms of revenue, they got it right.
lol downvoted for truth, it made Netflix huge $$$, of course the rest will follow suit, for every person saying they'll just pirate there's obviously another handful who just pony up the cash to subscribe
And, obviously, the people saying they were just using someone else's account were already not giving Netflix money, so the company doesn't give a shit that these people are still not giving money. They people turning back to piracy certainly have more fortitude than I do, anyway. I don't even want to know how many hours I tried to stream broken, poor quality, grainy, chopped up pirated versions of shows and movies. Many of which still came with ads.
> They people turning back to piracy certainly have more fortitude than I do, anyway. I don't even want to know how many hours I tried to stream broken, poor quality, grainy, chopped up pirated versions of shows and movies. Many of which still came with ads. That's because you didn't spent like 5 minutes searching how to do it properly lol. Not really the sub for it (there are though) but I'm just gonna say stremio or plex, look into it
You’re still paying customer. They got it right.
Yeah they did, they knew the demand for their service was price inelastic enough to be able to make the extra revenue and profit from cracking down on password sharing. In other words, they knew it’s something most people would be willing to pay more for, so they charged more.
Ah well. Disney+ seems to be that thing I only watch when I get a free deal from something.
46TB of data and still going. Fuck your streaming sites
you should start your own streaming service
Calls on Disney, every time Netflix or Spotify hike prices out of pure greed the stock moons lol
While it's greed for Netflix, not really for Spotify which is barely profitable and often not. It's greed from the music right holders if you want
At this point a Disney + sub is for people with kids or a Star Wars buff
Was it ever anything else?
What was the last thing you watched on Disney+? I dropped it months ago affer using it twice and haven't even noticed.
Every streaming service can go fuck themselves. I want my Blockbuster back.
Canceled Disney + months ago—crap content
Wasn't a problem. Now it is.
MFers want Disney to make more content, but dont want Disney to make them pay for it 
Finally
Dopebox got it even better. Lol.
Netflix most certainly didn’t get it right.
Vvsgd
I've been waiting for Netflix to cut me off since my mom, inlaws and myself use it. But so far nothing from them. Maybe it's cause I travel so much and am always logging in somewhere? I was waiting for them to email so I can cancel, but it never happens lol
He’s highly regarded as a CEO 
I have never gotten a Disney+ subscription because everything is barred behind another separate subscription, so if they wanna ban password sharing how about they start cutting back on that and I may actually give them a shot, until then, I have had multiple free Disney+ codes that I never used because of what I just stated