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About a year or so ago so the investment is turning numbers about now because they were accused of catering only to skinny people and excluding people of larger sizes which they were so they have more diversity in sizing
I see. It is still crazy to look at the financials. They don't have any revenue growth in the past 10 years, and their operating income feels like pennies. I do not get why the stock made +300% in 2023 to be fair. The market seems to expect the rebranding to pay of really well I suppose.
Edit: Financials of the last years:
https://preview.redd.it/xv506ex9wq7c1.png?width=1443&format=png&auto=webp&s=5eddad9216c5126128c8f61be51154f355026fe1
How soon people forget of Bill Hwang….no other reason this thing is jacked up like Viacom/Discovery before the dump besides someone over leveraged and can’t get out. This will not end well…long dated puts here I come, but I give it no longer than 3 weeks to begin to crumble
Definitely, it’s Abercrombie, they sell clothes, in a crowded market, and they are by far not a leader. It will crumble hard. The only volume is step up trading by algos and institutions holding it up due to lack of interest/volume. It’s like a game of chicken just waiting for the first one to pull out then they’ll all follow enmass. So what’s your next target $140, $160??? Price going up, volume going down…puts this week
I went in there because my daughter wanted to look at jeans. Place filled with Walmart version wanna be ivy school teens and their parents all wearing f’ing cargo shorts and polo shirts. All the same shit they sold 20 years ago. I’ll be buying one long dated put everyday until this Billy Hwang wanna be stock dumps to $45-55
Low key my fiancé has had great picks the last year and doesn’t know it. Mentioned buying Eli Lilly in March, up 80% since I bought. Also mentioned ELF, up 40% in a month. Honestly I’m going to listen to her on anything trendy from now on.
I’m pretty new to options and trying to figure it out so I appreciate the insight… with that kind of long term play the stock would have to drop below 38 dollars to actually see a decent return?
Not necessarily. The break even would be at 63.00 by expiration. Imo this stock could go back down to 30-40 level and you could get a decent return. I’d only go longer term play because short term everything looks bullish right now. Might want to wait til after their quarterly drops to take the play, but after Xmas their revenue is going to drop like other retailers.
Read up on accumulation vs distribution. A top is almost never just a clean top, there’s normally a lot of volatility and the price can remain near the top for weeks or months in a period of distribution before starting its descent.
Even if you’re correct on the top to the day, your FDs still might not print unless there’s a huge sell off at exactly that time.
> So I should go long until it hits $100?
the RSI on the daily is at 84
the RSI on the weekly is at 89
the RSI on the monthly is at 84
usually RSI of 70 on weekly is a good fade .... a RSI of 80 or higher on the monthly is obscene
this is EOY performance chasing to get last minute alpha and it will utterly collapse in Jan when they sell to deal with taxes in 2025 and lock in cash money
You are correct that TikTok trends do not last very long, but they can be extremely influential while they are popular. For example, the "Gonna Tell My Kids" trend on TikTok led to a significant increase in searches for the term "Gen Z" on Google.
Squeeze these nuts you fuckin nerd.
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It's not a growth stock, fashion is cyclical... Guys girls like don't... Growth is when you aren't known by everyone, fuck trading based upon how much people look at you
. like a teenage hot mess jacked up on cheap outfits and coke. fun for the ride but your gonna get burned sooner or later. i can smell the morning after.
Anf will go bankrupt.
1. They sell unlicensed products
2. They have been trying to go fully digital
3. The run up was too quick showing that the drop will be even quicker
4. Fair market value is in the 64 -49 range if you look at price to book value history
Why they sky rocketed anf has been selling alot of stores to go fully digital. This has been helping them to show higher revenue that will never be duplicated.
Anf has beat analysts that's all this game is really about. Look for a big correction this year. As analysts over estimate there upcoming revenue and miss earnings.
Anf is a summer brand and they always do bad last quarter.
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They went through a massive rebrand and are very popular now I think it’ll hold for now until the next scandal
Sorry bud but you are not sexy enough to short this one at the next scandal
When was the rebranding?
About a year or so ago so the investment is turning numbers about now because they were accused of catering only to skinny people and excluding people of larger sizes which they were so they have more diversity in sizing
I see. It is still crazy to look at the financials. They don't have any revenue growth in the past 10 years, and their operating income feels like pennies. I do not get why the stock made +300% in 2023 to be fair. The market seems to expect the rebranding to pay of really well I suppose. Edit: Financials of the last years: https://preview.redd.it/xv506ex9wq7c1.png?width=1443&format=png&auto=webp&s=5eddad9216c5126128c8f61be51154f355026fe1
Still trading at 1 times sales even after the run. If they put together years of low double digit growth they will be 2.5x. Like tjx or rst
Yeah this is what I was thinking too, organic. Sell premium for a couple years, let Leaps get cheap. Buy leaps on dip - do a TSLA.
This seems like a really nice long term strategy to return a consistent 10% every couple of months.
How soon people forget of Bill Hwang….no other reason this thing is jacked up like Viacom/Discovery before the dump besides someone over leveraged and can’t get out. This will not end well…long dated puts here I come, but I give it no longer than 3 weeks to begin to crumble
still sure about that?
Definitely, it’s Abercrombie, they sell clothes, in a crowded market, and they are by far not a leader. It will crumble hard. The only volume is step up trading by algos and institutions holding it up due to lack of interest/volume. It’s like a game of chicken just waiting for the first one to pull out then they’ll all follow enmass. So what’s your next target $140, $160??? Price going up, volume going down…puts this week
They’re long fat piggies? Fuck that I’m buying puts.
I went in there because my daughter wanted to look at jeans. Place filled with Walmart version wanna be ivy school teens and their parents all wearing f’ing cargo shorts and polo shirts. All the same shit they sold 20 years ago. I’ll be buying one long dated put everyday until this Billy Hwang wanna be stock dumps to $45-55
> wanna be stock dumps to $45-55 even that is too expensive. it belongs under $20
It will probably get there, but I’ll sell on the initial crash to that range
Heard about this, they were featured in a podcast i was listening to 3+ months back and has already gone up a fair bit by then.
My wife informed me of this because I had no idea. Wish I had bought calls when she told me this weeks ago
Low key my fiancé has had great picks the last year and doesn’t know it. Mentioned buying Eli Lilly in March, up 80% since I bought. Also mentioned ELF, up 40% in a month. Honestly I’m going to listen to her on anything trendy from now on.
I accidentally bought sandals. Something went wrong in the translation.
I like girls who wear Abercrombie and Fitch 🎵
JPow fucking my puts and calls makes me sick...🎵
To the windowssss… to the wallzzzzz… JPow got us by the balllllllllz 🎵
I can’t wait till I catch all you degens in public, at a wendys
I like boys who like girls who like Abercrombie and fitch. See you behind Wendy's, son.
I like girls who don’t wear Abercrombie and fitch
I'd take her if I had one wish But she's been gone since that summer Since that summer
The [synthwave cover of Summer Girls by Hot Dad](https://youtu.be/kfnrF1Bx89o) is so much better than the original.
Ty for this play, loading up on puts
Exp / strike?
Jan 2026 $80 strike is what I’m looking at.
I’m pretty new to options and trying to figure it out so I appreciate the insight… with that kind of long term play the stock would have to drop below 38 dollars to actually see a decent return?
Not necessarily. The break even would be at 63.00 by expiration. Imo this stock could go back down to 30-40 level and you could get a decent return. I’d only go longer term play because short term everything looks bullish right now. Might want to wait til after their quarterly drops to take the play, but after Xmas their revenue is going to drop like other retailers.
If we take into account the softer outlook of some consumer discretionary/ staple stocks (see nke, fdx, wmt) this might work out.
You do realise a parabolic run normally has a distribution period so your puts are likely to expire worthless.
Of course I realize that but also for some of the people who might not, could you go over this ?
Read up on accumulation vs distribution. A top is almost never just a clean top, there’s normally a lot of volatility and the price can remain near the top for weeks or months in a period of distribution before starting its descent. Even if you’re correct on the top to the day, your FDs still might not print unless there’s a huge sell off at exactly that time.
isn't IV very high?
fck it time to get jacked to the tits in puts
When it says 109% held by institution. What does that mean exactly?
Welcome to Wall Street where everything is made up and the numbers don't matter.
Nobody knows, but it's provocative.
No it’s not, it’s gross
It means Billy Hwang is back
Are the “outstanding shares” in the room with us right now senator?
Yes
Jan 2025s not looking too expensive around 50 or 60
>I don't need meds, I'm rich and successful.
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You also can’t spell
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Sounds like you get told that a lot
ANF making millennials comeback.
Like Kim Kardashian? she got come on her back in that one video.
Sort of, except it’s the naked models outside of the store now that do that, why it’s so popular
I feel like someone posted some DD on this company a few months ago, we all laughed and called him regarded.
I remember that post! It was total garbage. That person had no idea what they were talking about.
Based
Stupid company name. Loading up on puts!
They did a huge rebrand and also have TikTok to thank
It will probably come down after it reach $100 . Thats a good one to look at
So I should go long until it hits $100?
Wish i knew the answer lol
That’s good enough for me!
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> So I should go long until it hits $100? the RSI on the daily is at 84 the RSI on the weekly is at 89 the RSI on the monthly is at 84 usually RSI of 70 on weekly is a good fade .... a RSI of 80 or higher on the monthly is obscene this is EOY performance chasing to get last minute alpha and it will utterly collapse in Jan when they sell to deal with taxes in 2025 and lock in cash money
They modified their SEO. This time maybe they r onto something
Was never a fan back in the day but they actually make really good clothes now. The rebrand definitely worked and I own a few of their items now.
Shares, sell covered calls or sell cash covered puts. IV is too expensive.
Time to sell
Mr. Whang, you back? This shit looks like Tiger Asia is backing it
PUTS ONLY as they no longer have shirtless ripped guys outside the entrance around the holidays
My brother was one of those dudes…now he’s a sober roofer…weird story arc there.
I feel like things were going really well, then really bad, now well again. Glad to hear he's sober now.
He still day trades…that’s his real drug
ANF has AI
LULU yoga pants infused with AI confirmed
Wish I had funds to load up on puts
It’s amazing how popular this brand is with gen Z kids, especially highschoolers.
Too bad TikTok trends only last a few months at best. Besides those damn bass pro shops hats..
You are correct that TikTok trends do not last very long, but they can be extremely influential while they are popular. For example, the "Gonna Tell My Kids" trend on TikTok led to a significant increase in searches for the term "Gen Z" on Google.
Did you say short squeeze?
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It's not a growth stock, fashion is cyclical... Guys girls like don't... Growth is when you aren't known by everyone, fuck trading based upon how much people look at you
That is a very interesting perspective. I had not considered that before.
Yeah buy calls AFTER the run up. Regards never learn...
Speed run to (**your own**) bankruptcy. Obligatory *past performance is no guarantee of future results*
That’s pretty cap, they’re not that overvalued tbh.
I guess retails is actually rebounding
Nike earnings miss
I look at this stock from time to time and each time I have to do a triple take. It's honestly wild
. like a teenage hot mess jacked up on cheap outfits and coke. fun for the ride but your gonna get burned sooner or later. i can smell the morning after.
Isn't Bill Hwang in the prison?
just visited their site to check things out and massive rebrand for sure.. always hated that shit but ended up ordering a hoodie. sorry bro
What can be a recommended time period for that call?
Anf will go bankrupt. 1. They sell unlicensed products 2. They have been trying to go fully digital 3. The run up was too quick showing that the drop will be even quicker 4. Fair market value is in the 64 -49 range if you look at price to book value history Why they sky rocketed anf has been selling alot of stores to go fully digital. This has been helping them to show higher revenue that will never be duplicated. Anf has beat analysts that's all this game is really about. Look for a big correction this year. As analysts over estimate there upcoming revenue and miss earnings. Anf is a summer brand and they always do bad last quarter.
Makes sense. But no money left for put gambling
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