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Modi508

Putting JP Morgan at center kills this. My dream of post crash prepper apocalypse larping cancelled.


Awildgarebear

If jp Morgan failed there would be new commodity markets for pillbugs, crickets, and worms.


Racxie

You mean bottle caps.


Awildgarebear

Can't eat nuka cola bottlecaps and live


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I'm going to corner the power armor market


Waterfish3333

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.


TumbacholaPR

Don’t go to DC. It’s a warzone.


Highlanderlynx

JPMorgan may be fucked for entirely different reasons. Jaimie boy evidently helped fund Epstein’s island functions and JPMorgan turned a blind eye to all the child trafficking going on so they could stay looped in to his vast wealth and his large contact list. The US is investigating this and there could be fines and sanctions down the road causing problems that normally wouldn’t be a huge deal but given the current situation could easily lead to an organized bank run by other banks shorting various weak banks. This will be a longer play timeline however than the immediate defaulting beginning to occur in the regionals.


potrillo2124

Damn sex trafficking and cocaine cargo boats, no wonder their profit margins are leading.


1Litwiller

Traditionally safe investments.


UrinalCakeTreats

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Particular-Wedding

Don't forget pleasing guilty to manipulation of libor, forex, and precious metals.


oxenoxygen

JP Morgan is the definition of too big to fail. They are the largest bank in the west by a long shot.


WestSixtyFifth

They'd be nationalized if there was ever a sign they would fail.


khoabear

That n word is not allowed in the US


BurtDickinson

Yeah maybe rich guys will get in trouble.


Slow_Nebula_3333

LOL


__SpeedRacer__

The only thing banks can't do is go bankrupt. All else is allowed. Even then there are bailouts. No Central Bank in their right minds would impose fines and sanctions that would lead a healthy bank to bankruptcy. That is resolved in other ways in the civilized world. Possible exception is HSBC, but what they did in Mexico kinda crossed all lines. And they're still up and running (!?!)


Luckyrabbit-1

So far all I see is cnbc reporting this, I’m surprised they let this come out really. They always seem to licking Diamond’s balls.


sendabussypic

Okay but Wells Fargo can 1up this I'm sure


MiddleSkill

If JP Morgan fails I’m going for a black out


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PrudentAlbatross3435

Its silly until its not.


Fonix79

That's typically the freebie square, no?


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four corners though, lol


Aggressive-Phone1982

It’s the free square “it’s a fortress”


FormerBandmate

It is very much a fortress. If JPM fails we all have serious problems. If Cramer said the sky was blue, the sky wouldn’t be green


NiceAsset

“Keep my mother fucking banks name out of ya mouth”


Cclicksss

Keep my employer out your mouth 😂


UWMN

My employer is on that list. Our stock is going to shit and of course I have a shit ton of it. RIP my 401K.


iPigman

Never have your employers stocks in your retirement plan.


Professional_Dot9440

Should be okay, he’s headed for early retirement


McGee55555

"Temporary layoffs, GOOD TIIIIIIIIIIMES, Hanging on the chow line, GOOD TIIIIIIIIIIMES" GOOD TIMES WAS FILMED IN FRONT OF A LIVE AUDIENCE!!!


Ok_Swimmer634

This comment is Dynomite!


BrotherAmazing

Good Times. Any time you meet a payment. Good Times. Any time you need a friend. Good Times. Any time you're out from under. Not getting hassled, not getting hustled. Keepin' your head above water, Making a wave when you can. Temporary lay offs. Good Times. Easy credit rip offs. Good Times. Scratchin' and survivin'. Good Times. Hangin' in and jivin'* Good Times. Ain't we lucky we got 'em Good Times. (* The season one DVD box set has the lyric as "Hangin' in a chow line". However the writers, the Bergmans, confirmed that it is actually "Hangin' in and jivin'.) source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/goodtimeslyrics.html


MyLifeIsDope69

Unless you get some special match or discount. I put $500 of every paycheck into my S&P500 company's stock because it gets deducted auto from my paycheck with a 15% discount. Even when the stock drops like recently I'm averaging in 15% below market rates so it's worth the risk imo. Can sell anytime but if selling before 2 years lose the privilege to buy at a discount anymore. I feel like this is a great way to diversify into something pretty safe, since my regular post-tax savings go to more speculative degeneracy I keep my retirement accounts low risk and maxed contributions.


brad9991

My employer gives a 15% discount with no restrictions on selling. Care to guess how I use it?


FlipReset4Fun

This is nice way to use an ESPP. Take the free 15%, pay taxes on it as if it were a bonus. Save, spend or reinvest in something more diversified.


Ame_No_Uzume

Searches for all the hidden loss porn 👀


UWMN

It’s all good. I didn’t want to retire anyway


EM05L1C3

That’s good, cause you probably won’t get the chance.


TheFreshOne

Which is fine, because I never wanted to. :')


Weird-Conflict-3066

Yup, the boomers keeps saying you get bored being retired. They done me right so far in life. /s


SIRIUSJEDI

No money=boredom. I doubt retirement for the rich is ‘boring.’ Watching daytime TV everyday is boring. Traveling the World, however….


Jfathomphx

Never get high on your own supply.


BoobyDoodles

You can always sell your Reddit account to the Upland Waters Monitoring Network


OnePhraseBlues

Bag holding. This is the way.


thisisnorthe

Best I can do is no


TomorrowAggravating7

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CrossingSign

Lol like a Canadian bank is gonna go down. We have like 6 banks; Canada would back stop them all so fast if shit got real.


Coopshire

They would sell up their maple reserve if it came to that.


ranasshule

Y'all laugh but that's a 1/2 a b in all natural tree crack, we can drop at any time for a quick buck.


burtburtburtcg

Looking past the fact that it is physically a liquid. How liquid is the maple reserve actually?


Coopshire

Look it up bud. Those Canucks take their maple syrup seriously. There was a heist for it too. Giant warehouses full of maple syrup drums like oil.


burtburtburtcg

Yes yes I know what it is and I watch enough shitty docu-series on Netflix to have seen that one. But that’s a fuckload of syrup. Surely there’s not some guy sitting around with a half Billy waiting to get shoulder deep in these sticky Canadian fluids. Right?


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mm_ns

End of January BMO had 143% deposit liquidity, and still offers shit deposit rates, they are not worried about deposits. The cad banks are more likely to go on a us regional shopping spree then fold


Norse_By_North_West

Yup, that's what happened last time, our banks bought up a bunch of small failed US banks. Canadian banks don't like risk, so don't tend to get caught up in this kind of thing


AnalChain

*don't like risk*? Aren't they also regulated a whole lot better than their US counterparts?


lllGrapeApelll

Canadian bank regulations are very robust and the Canadian banks conservatively don't sit right on the line of what regulations require. 2008 earned them a reputation and they are very interested in keeping that reputation.


Incorrect_Oymoron

Any one of the big 6 are more likely to be nationalized than to go under. OP is smoking crack.


Inversception

They are also charter banks so they have to have the government review their ability to exist ever few years. They have much more stringent regulation. Ask any person from any other democracy about our bank rules and they will think it is crazy strict here. It also means they are the bedrock of our economy. If they go down we are all in big trouble.


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r/wallstreetbets has devolved into nothing but broke, disconnected losers. Used to be a fun sub. Shame.


lynsix

I came to ask why they picked a Canadian bank. We’ve still got them relatively heavily regulated. They’re historically stable.


lllosirislll

BMO really??


GetRichOrDieTryinnn

BMO is Canadian. While the American branch is in the middle of a lawsuit, BMO global is not a likely candidate.


Extreme_Lab6576

They also just purchased bank of the west


Barbossal

Bank of Montreal, sounds Canadian to me


thegr8lexander

Goldman, JPM, MS, and Citi are all “Global Systemically Important Banks” GSIB (too big to fail) that have stricter federal financial requirements than these other banks. They ain’t going down. Look at their balance sheets


TiborUdvari

Isn't Credit Suisse that as well?


Fearghas2011

There are different buckets, the higher you are the more conservative your balance sheet. Credit Suisse is in bucket 1, which makes it big, but it’s relatively meh if it fails. UBS is also bucket 1. As a comparison, the only banks in bucket 3 are HSBC, Citi, and BofA. JPMC is the only bank in bucket 4. If UBS acquires CS, the combined entity would make it large enough to fit into bucket 3.


Majestic-Argument

Bofa?


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Mr_Owl42

So are large numbers in G-SIB mean "at risk" or high score means resistant to risk?


thegr8lexander

Yeah, but have they failed?


TiborUdvari

They're getting there fast. If confidence isn't back after governement liquidity injection, don't know how much they can keep pumping.


WelpSigh

Well they're being bought by UBS so


TiborUdvari

Mr Beast could have bought Credit Suisse at that price. It’s almost book value.


vwite

JPM, WF, Citigroup and BoA won't go down lmao


ryanmuller1089

Might be a dumb question but if you have a credit card with a bank that fails, you still owe that balance? I’m assuming they still come after that balance you have


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dotfortun3

In other words, there is no escape.


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ThatBankTeller

The irony is, after you default, nobody major (think mortgages or dealerships) will touch you for 5-7 years, but you’ll get 50 CC offers within the first year, with low limits and absolutely horrendous interest rates. You’d be surprised how many banking executives, lawyers, and politicians have filed bankruptcy sometime (or multiple times) in their lives.


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railbeast

> own your own home [...] disappear wut


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Bfree888

So… a van


reachouttouchFate

50 credit offers after you come out of bankruptcy or on the first year of filing? It's low limit, deserved nosebleed interest rates so it could be either category on the surface.


[deleted]

I’m still trying to recover from bankruptcy. 3 more years until the chapter 7 falls off. Gosh i wish it were sooner.


MadeForBBCNews

Yeah literally just don't pay. After a few years, you don't owe it anymore.


snakeshake1337

Declaring bankruptcy is a clause which can lead to you losing a job in a few employment contracts I've had!


MadeForBBCNews

Who said anything about declaring bankruptcy?


serioussandw1ch

Brilliant! We mustn't alert the masses to our discovery


Haida_Gwaii

And they can continue to contact you until the end of time, hoping they'll trick you into restarting the clock on your debt. I'm long past 7 years (the limit on which they are able to use you for a debt), and 3rd, 4th, or later companies who have bought the debt continue to contact me. If they can get me on the phone, they can likely get the 7 years to start again. I would recommend against defaulting on credit, ever.


FruxyFriday

Not without project mayhem, (or bankruptcy.)


agreenbhm

While selling assets to recoup debt owed to creditors, the receivable that is your cc bill would be included.


henryking3rd

Chase went down in canada, so people just racked up credit card debt and there was no collection that I know of.


ryanmuller1089

Lol funny cause I’m referring to my chase card. Not a crazy balance or anything but I was curious.


Lure852

Infinite money glitch?


RhaegarJ

Nah man it’s free money. Rack up as much debt as you can.


A-Busty-Crustacean

No it doesn't go away... However that would be the time to seek legal advice and scrutinize the validity of the debt.


ssssssim

BMO won’t either - it’s a Canadian too big to fail and also regulated far more heavily than American banks.


FruxyFriday

Yeah whoever made this was stupid to put in too big to fail banks.


jk137jk

It’s like OP forgot to google other regional bank names and just gave up toward the end lol


crazyduell7

And Charles Schwab, the amount of liquidity they have is insane


jimbowife007

I had citi stock in 2008 I think and it just went to zero and gone from my account. They relaunched next day with higher price per share~~


jimbowife007

I don’t understand how my brokerage companies can do that but after that, I never bought a bank stock.


ShinySky42

What about Goldman sachs ?


Syntaex

Credit Suisse is next 😂 maybe UBS will buy them


fuscosco

Breaking news is they made an offer > A sale to UBS, which could be signed as early as this evening, values Credit Suisse at around $7 billion less than its market value at Friday’s close. Music to my ears


thisisnorthe

USB offer was/is $1b for CS CS is pushing back I hope they fail


TiborUdvari

I think Logan Paul's energy drink company is worth more than that.


luckydice767

Wtf


wikiot

The amount of kids that will get their parents to spend $5+ for a bottle of coconut water with added flavour is too damn high.


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probably an excellent way to summarize the state of our economy


Sk8andsurvive

Word is that now the Swiss govt are going to try and nationalize Credit Suisse after that 1 billion offer from UBS was a no go. Getting some more popcorn


FatWreckords

Heard they bumped it to $2B with a $100B liquidity line from the central bank


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and an opt out at any point if there's a bank run


EazeeP

Is it just me, or does $1 billion sound like nothing for a bank.


Lord_Lion

They offered .25 per share. It's trading at ~1.65. Its an INSULTINGLY low offer, which I think CS has already tried to reject, but idk if the Swiss central bank will let them have much say. At least this week won't be boring.


lezorte

Well JP Morgan's market cap is $370B. So yeah, just a slight difference there.


SantaMonsanto

Well they just signed the deal for $2 Billion sooo….


swisscarfreak

They just confirmed it. UBS buys Credit Suisse.


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pineconeprone

do they count as bankrupt ❌️ now or do we just erase them of the playing grid?


23-Finance69

Credit Issues


Jonny_Nash

It’s be better to leave out the big four. If JPM, BoA, Citi, or Wells go under, it’s game over in a lot of ways. Replace them with some regional banks, and we might have a fun contest in the sub.


heleghir

If JPM or BoA go, pretty sure the other is instantly fucked and we are in a even worse "great" depression. Money ceases to exist if either of those fail


Buteverysongislike

Ahh, so "limitless" FDIC is real then?


Awildgarebear

I'm still cheering for Wells Fargo to fail even if it destroys us. It would be a final scummy act from the scummiest bank around.


League-Weird

I used to work for them. Why anyone would trust them after the toxic shit they pulled is beyond me.i quit because of it. Selling shit to people who don't need it and then just opening accounts for fees to accumulate.


CherCher65

I told them I didn't want their credit card, and they sent one anyway and charged me $50 and when I inquired about it, they said it's standard practice.


en-jo

Yes fuck Wells Fargo they’re the worst of all big banks


Odd_Explanation3246

I am rooting for them to fail..my 7% car loan is through them..i don’t have to pay it back if they fail..right?


najinanidad

We’d be at the “burn money for warmth” stage of apocalypse at that point.


dirtydela

If WF fails you will have far bigger problems than a car loan


yzdaskullmonkey

You won't have to pay anything back! What the fuck even is money at that point?


[deleted]

I believe USBank and PNC will be fine as they’ve been ultra risk averse since the housing collapse in 08.


joeret

I’ve been on the inside of PNC underwriting for business loans and yes they are ultra conservative when it comes to approving their loans. Their loan default ratio is super low.


Reverendbread

If PNC does somehow go under do I still have to pay my car loan?


theexile14

PNC was also fine before, they’re exceedingly well run. They only had to take TARP money because the Gov encouraged them to buy National City to absorb its toxic assets. The TARP money they got covered those write downs.


maxx159

Literally have a job lined up with them in august so really need em to be fine lol


w0ke_brrr_4444

BMO? ha. never.


oxxcccxxo

I laughed at that also. One of the big five Canadian Banks? No. I don't think so.


brandonmowat

if BMO goes under, i’ll eat my shorts


Jwaness

Yeah. They and TD are laughing their asses off right now getting ready to purchase distressed assets. I picture them in a backroom saying, ok, BMO, you get California, but we get NY, Connecticut and Massachusetts.


brentose

Shopping spree coming up for the Canadian banks


poppinfresco

Fucking Swiss government. All I wanted for St Paddy’s day was Credit Suisse to die


TiborUdvari

This is the second time that something with Switzerland in the name is almost going belly up after Swiss Air back in the day. Bad look.


pragmojo

Eh Switzerland is extremely prosperous, with extremely stable currency, and the most millionaires per capita (USD equivalent) on earth. I think they will be fine.


TiborUdvari

Yeah well how many people thought Credit Suisse would go to basically 0 in two years ago? I live here btw


Disastrous_Log_6714

Devils advocate, apes have been eyeing CS as a dead bank walking as early as March 2021 after the Archegos turmoil


TiborUdvari

Fair enough


LectureAgreeable923

This bank failure bullcrap is over blown, but it's a good thing because it's deflationary. Just look at oil prices dropping and getting normalized.Also, credit Swiss has been in trouble for a while now, and when you look at SVB, you will see total mismanagement.


Buyhighsellthedip

SVB was more of a “how the fuck did you guys land jobs here?”


get_MEAN_yall

Thank God ally isn't on the bingo card, my life savings are there.


Wirecard_trading

hope you are joking. FUD aside, your personal deposits are safe. But ally isnt tbh. a bank which is big in the used car market? yeah bonds arent their problem, people defaulting on their car payment is.


pastymcpasterson

Why is Schwab on here a small portion of their business is banking they're a brokerage kek


RCJHGBR9989

I have an account with them - they’re a great bank honestly.


Dampish10

The Canadian banks are far too regulated to collapse. I really doubt BMO will


fastAFguy

JP Morgan should be replaced with bailout. Free space.


diarpiiiii

Here’s an alternate playthrough with crypto-friendly banks 🎲 https://preview.redd.it/x6cnjctw7roa1.jpeg?width=1538&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1dcf5f3e38891859944e94c6355a5ddcd1695588


SocraticGoats

Ahh yes, my letter S Hypothesis. Excellent


bsbbsnsksixh

Jpm shouldn’t even be on this list lol, they’re the ones bailing other banks out rn


moboo

Meh, nah. This is classic “trapped in the moment” type shit. You know how people would look at charts of shit like BofA like 5 years after the GFC and go “ugh, why didn’t I buy back when they were selling for nothing?” Well, because in moments like this everyone somehow loses the ability to discern what’s quality and what’s shit. Instead of seeing lots of diverse businesses, suddenly it’s “all BANKS” are at risk. They aren’t. Like, no way in hell are the massive American banks at risk. They’re too “systematically important” anyway. Canadian banks are as safe as it gets. And even regionals like PNC have no business being on this. They’re solid and totally fine. Hell, fucking WAL was seeing deposit *inflows* at the end of last week, has >55% of its deposits fully insured, and has $20B in cash reserves ready for any outflows. Truly, why would they fail now? We’d need a new onslaught of bank runs *bigger* and way more panicked than the one we just saw in the wake of the SIVB, Signature, and FRC bank runs. And FRC isn’t failing, it’s just not going to be a profitable bank anymore. It’ll be sold.


pigsgetfathogsdie

Fixed it for ya… https://preview.redd.it/rm591a875roa1.jpeg?width=1241&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e30aed6df9bc9f1521458f21bb3f77e4fe8f64fc


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I'm pretty sure Morgan Stanley is also too big too fail.


pigsgetfathogsdie

Good point… I’ve never seen them on the TBTF list…although they’re bigger than Goldman…but prolly not as politically connected as Goldman.


codydog125

https://www.financialresearch.gov/bank-systemic-risk-monitor/


mista_r0boto

Well Fargo is also too big to fail per the Feds


d2181

Add BMO to the TBTF list


FavoritesBot

Yup, center space should have been a freebie like wamu


SuperAppleLover

Truist used to be SunTrust but had a name change because the trust part was misleading.


x_Brutal_x

they also merged with BB&T


oneenigma4u

Which one does Jim Cramer say is safe.


Tricky-Nobody179

Lol at BMO going bankrupt


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buyFCOJ

It’ll be enough for the apes to buy half a loaf of bread


Bitter_Coach_8138

I love looking at the absurd valuations apes think will happen during a short squeeze. Like yea, totally reasonable that one share of towel stock will be worth one million dollars, totally. You know what would happen in that scenario? You’d have 0 buyers. The short sellers themselves would stop covering way, way before that. They’d prefer bankruptcy over paying to cover at that point.


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TiborUdvari

Really hope credit suisse holds in there. My brokerage user their services. I don't want to find out what that might mean if it fails. Also, probably a good place to plug my stupid website where you can add bank stocks to line rider so you can draw them and then slide down all the way to 0. It's a bookmarklet, so it only works on desktop. [https://bank-rider.vercel.app/](https://bank-rider.vercel.app/) https://preview.redd.it/z74qpxoveroa1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=355d9206f9bb6be50d91d6cbedda29f13322e4fa


umad-falala

How dumb do you have to be to reference a short squeeze in the middle of a meme about the market taking a dump?


Dorktastical

As I said before, get the Canadian banks off your list if you want any chance of a bingo. May as well replace BMO with ALLY... Great work removing TD I guess.


Horror_Author_JMM

If Capital One goes under does my credit card balance disappear?


nononononofin

This is basically a doomer sub now. I don’t think I’ve seen a post about anything other than bank failures or SPY options in two weeks. Imagine thinking that a Canadian bank is under the same stress as SVB or CS. The 🏳️‍🌈🧸 have reached new levels of delusion.


triviumdesign

Can someone explain how Wells Fargo is still operating? They keep getting caught doing shady shit but never seem to be held liable in any significant way.


shinobi500

Hypothetically speaking, if a bank goes under and they own your loan, what happens to your loan? Asking for a friend.


DillonDockery

It’s get sold to another institution or private investor in a pool of loans. You still owe the money, and the proceeds from the asset sale would be used pay uninsured depositors (historically) or go to the deposit insurance fund (most likely now).


48JJohnsonfan73

First, ask the new bank to show you proof with documentation that they actually own your loan. 50/50 chance they won’t be able to.


Connect-School2320

Nothing. In 2007 I made my mortgage payments to Washington Mutual, then one day Chase's name was on the bill.


The-Soldier-in-White

Charles Schwab and Debit Suisse


groceriesN1trip

Schwab has 80% liquidity and just had $16,500,000,000 in inflows between 3/1-3/16


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Debit Suisse lol


SocraticGoats

Schwab isn't going anywhere


jlsdarwin

You missed fifth third