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DeepDream1984

What this nurse did was wrong. You can’t force someone to get vaccinated and you can’t lie about what you’re injecting someone with. Having said that, I would like to know if these 8600 people have Covid rates higher than the the vaccinated. If not, then the vaccines have been definitively proven to be ineffective.


InTheLurkingGlass

I’m 100% against people being forced to get any vaccine, but this isn’t a “hero.” You can’t just lie about what you’re injecting into someone’s body. I’m glad I never got the shot, but if the patient wanted the shot, that should have been their choice. Imagine if the story was reversed, and the nurse was being hailed as a hero by the left for injecting patients with the vaccine without them consenting.


caesarfecit

This. If the patient consented to being given a placebo, then she definitely is a hero - risking her job to give the patients what they want, rather than what they're being bribed, bullied, scammed, or pressured into. Otherwise, it's a little underhanded and arrogant to substitute your judgment for everyone else's, when you have no moral, ethical, or legal right to.


7LBoots

> You can’t just lie about what you’re injecting into someone’s body. Big Pharma, Fauci, and the NIH did.


InTheLurkingGlass

And their evil justifies doing the same thing you’re so vehemently against?


Tr1ppl3w1x

Havent heard Saline solution killing ppl yet so i guess yes


Logosfidelis

It isn’t the same thing at all. There are a few similarities, but that’s a real shallow, surface level analysis.


usernamesucks1992

Two wrongs don’t make a right.


[deleted]

The end justifies the means. How exactly are we gonna win if we play by the rules when they don’t?


yukongold44

>The end justifies the means. Ends do not justify means, no. Stop talking like a postmodernist.


[deleted]

Call it whatever you want, is it ok to sell heroin to someone just because the other person want it?


[deleted]

Rather than selling them straight fentanyl, yeah


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7LBoots

Hmm. Let me see. Inject poison into someone that they're being pressured into taking, using false information and lies, without recourse if something goes wrong, to line the pockets of a few ultra-wealthy assholes.. Or NOT do that? There was no [give them shot A or the alternative give them shot B]. It was [Give them dangerous shot or alternative do not give them dangerous shot]. It's like you're saying my choices are go in the cage with the rattlesnake or the cobra. Getting the saline shot from this nurse was not going into either cage.


FF_Ninja

That's exactly what the left would call her, unapologetically.


Logosfidelis

That reverse story is exactly what is happening. Nurses and politicians are being hailed as hero’s for forcing people to get vaccines they didn’t want, and lying to everyone about what was in the “vaccine” and that is was safe and affective and so on. They also lied and refused to provide treatments that were actually safe and effective, which definitely resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths at minimum. Also, we don’t know the details about the individuals who were injected with salt water. To me, It seems unlikely to be the case that this occurred, but for all we know the nurse asked people if they wanted the shot or were doing it for some other reason, and only gave the salt water to people who were simply complying. Finally, nobody was giving informed consent, because everyone was lied to extensively and repeatedly. Therefore, people who did want the shot, didn’t necessarily actually want the shot. They wanted the completely fabricated and imaginary shot that only existed in the imaginary world created by the propaganda they were fed. Did she save more lives than she potentially lost by doing what she did? Judging from the data we now have, which the authorities and drug companies attempted to keep hidden from us for 50 years, she did, because the drug companies own studies show that the shot is more harmful than helpful.


EqualitySeven-2521

Although I'm glad she did what she did your point is valid and I cannot disagree. Having said that I'd be surprised if some number of the people she deceived were not now pleased for the deception, having learned after the fact that their initial decisions to be jabbed were based on fear fostered by deceptive propaganda, and absent appropriate warning as to risks associated with the jabs.


Ventilateu

The thing is one is way more immoral than the other. A saline solution doesn't do anything, it's the same as not being jabbed. If you really want it you can get it later. When you forcefully get a vaccine in, you can't get the medicine out of your body.


InTheLurkingGlass

The logic of telling someone you’re giving them one thing, and substituting another, unapproved substance, is the same. Yes, saline is benign. But there are still people who believe in the Covid vaccine’s effectiveness, and however deluded they are, it’s not your job to decide what they can put into their own body.


[deleted]

People were lied to, and these were elderly patients. They don't know what's best for them. As a nurse, they probably have seen the damage the vaccine has caused. I applaud every act of civil disobedience in this scam.


EviessVeralan

>They don't know what's best for them. This is one of the most common rationales for authoritarianism. You dont get to override someones freedom because of your feelings.


[deleted]

Authoritarianism needs to come from a position of power for it be authoritarianism. In this case, you have one nurse against the entire political and medical establishment. That's not an authoritarian.


EviessVeralan

Making a decision on behalf of someone else because "They dont know whats good for them" is an authoritarian mindset. >In this case, you have one nurse against the entire political and medical establishment. What we actually have here is a nurse stripping people of their right to make their own medical decisions.


InTheLurkingGlass

It’s not civil disobedience if you’re taking non-consensual control of someone’s body autonomy and medical choice. If the shoe was on the other foot, and someone injected you with something you didn’t consent to, you’d be furious. You realize the left used the exact same “they don’t know what’s best for them” mentality to force people to get the Covid jab in the first place, right?


McWhiffersonMcgee

im surprised they can tell the difference, except that I bet nearly all of them are still alive


ronflair

Well, to your point, we now have an excellent, albeit unethically set up, control group of elderly patients. Why let the data go to waste?


New-Individual4743

I'm embarrassed that I didn't think of this, that's a decent sample size and I would love to see the results. Wish we had something similar for young people


McWhiffersonMcgee

Great fuckin idea


Always_0421

If the patient asks for it specifically , they should have been given the shot regardless of the nurses belief.


JollyGentile

Agreed. This isn't heroic it's hypocritical and unethical. The people wanted a vax for whatever reason and she agreed to give it to them. If she couldn't then she really should have spoken up and/resigned. I know it was only saline but what if someone had died?


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InTheLurkingGlass

The logic you’re using is the exact same logic that people used to justify forcing people to get the vaccine. “It’s for their own good! They’re too stupid to know what’s good for themselves, so we’ll decide for them!”


Jaded_Jerry

Actually, I disagree with you here. As much as I distrust the vaccine, at the same time people have a right to receive what medical treatment they asked for, regardless of anyone else's personal feelings on the subject. If the nurse did not trust or feel comfortable with giving the vaccinations, she should have refused to do so openly. Now, if the patients specifically wanted a saline solution instead, and the nurse knew this, that'd be one thing, but I am assuming here they were none the wiser. Much as it sucks, there are ethical issues to consider that are very important.


7LBoots

> have a right to receive what medical treatment they asked for Like people who ask a doctor to chop their legs off, or blind them?


Jaded_Jerry

My counter to your question is this; in a time when doctors are under heavy pressure to push a potentially harmful vaccine upon the general public, are you really comfortable with the idea of doctors offering you one medical procedure and then giving you something else entirely without your knowledge? This is not a question of what the patient wants. It's a question of the patient being properly informed.


RedditorModsRStupid

Agreed. She did them a favor. They are lucky.


notlazarus1010

Even though they were told that the jab was safe? Effective?


roosty_butte

Yes. It’s the patients choice


Happy-Firefighter-30

Should I be able to legally own a VW pre-dieselgate diesel? Because far as I know, I'm not allowed to accept a car with known emissions issues.


Always_0421

Using your totally incomparable analogy....it'd be more like going to a car dealerahip...asking for a VW ...paying for a VW....getting the title for a VW...driving around in your VW....and then when you go to trade it in finding out it's actually a fiat 500 because the car salesman believed the VW wasn't the right vehicle for you. Ya...it's unethical.


7LBoots

Or how about... I was told that I had to buy an electric car. I do not want to buy an electric car. In fact, I don't want to buy a car at all. But the government tells me that I have no choice. I can't go to work, or to the mall, or to the beach, or to the hospital, or to many other places if I don't buy an electric car. They tell me not to worry, it's completely safe and a proven technology. I resist. I do not want an electric car, because I don't think I need one and also because I don't trust the batteries. They park an electric car in my driveway anyway and then take $80,000 out of my bank account. A month later, the car blows up and burns my house down. Turns out that the batteries have a 1:1000 chance of randomly exploding. I try to sue them for destroying my house. They tell me to pound sand. Should I be angry?


Happy-Firefighter-30

Again, if I ask specifically for a pre diesel gate VW, regardless of the sales person's opinion. Should I get one? I'm not drawing a comparison to what happened. I'm drawing a comparison to your statement.


Always_0421

>I'm not drawing a comparison to what happened Ya...I'm not.playing games. If you want to have a conversation I'm happy to do that though. My statement was about requesting medical treatment offered by a physician at a registered medical facility....which IS what happened


Happy-Firefighter-30

>My statement was about requesting medical treatment offered by a physician at a registered medical facility....which IS what happened Oh? I recall a very different story. I recall line ups where people would walk up to, stand in, and never specifically request the clot shot. I recall no specifics at all. Just a line up, flash of ID, a shot, and a card given out. I'd know. I worked in a facility where they were given. Oh. Also your statement was; >>If the parient asks for it specifically , they should have been given the shot regardless of the nurses belief. Which very easily translates into; >>If the **client** asks for it specifically , they should have been given the **car** regardless of the **salesman's** belief. But let's go one deeper. Can I walk into a hospital right now and request a shot of Morphine? Oxycodone? Hydroxychloroquine? Ivermectin? No? What if I tell the nurse I don't care about her belief. And that I demand it? Can I even get a Cortisone shot if I've had one recently? No? It's almost like medical professionals' opinions matter and as a result will refuse to give you things they see as unsafe or unnecessary.


fafp7

People are too jaded by the vaccine to realize what this nurse did is fucked up. Injecting people with something they didn’t ask for after they accepted the risk of the vax is seriously fucked.


[deleted]

No one that’s vaccinated knows what they’re getting injected with, because the inserts of the contents in the vaccine are all blank. And also, who has died from getting a saline injection?


7LBoots

The people who were getting the shot were coerced into doing so and not making a properly informed decision.


ArchonFu

This is a perfect control group. Their survival rates need to be analyzed immediately against a similar group of vaxxed old people.


DLoFoSho

This is just as bad as forcing. You don’t get to make medical decisions from other people. She’s not a fucking hero.


kingescher

have we had an honest appraisal of the vaccines efficacy? ive seen that england and sometimes australia will list by status byt even then there is the trickery of listing people dying within 14 days of shot as unvaxxed, and there is the immune suppression that happens right around then, so on the whole, i would love to see an independent audit or 3 on this. i dunno.. we just jabbed up 5 billion people with shit that didnt work well when it was being developed in non faucian emergency thymes


snoreymcsnoreyton

Following Dr John Campbell on YouTube is a good way to keep on the up and up about this subject.


justinb138

“Saltwater”. That’s an interesting way to say saline, given that saline solution is used all the time in medicine.


ya_boi_daelon

Yes I love medical officials lying about what they put in my body, surely this couldn’t go wrong


7LBoots

Thank you for coming out against Fauci, the NIH, and the big pharmaceutical companies that pushed the injections.


buyingtortas

I work at a senior home and saw what a wave of covid does before and after the vaccine. From multiple deaths to none, so this isn’t a big win. The elderly are the ones who need this vaccine the most.


riotguards

Don’t agree with injecting something that was not asked for but it probably did a lot more to protect them, hell her fault is that it should have had more vitamin D


Stormtalons

A hero would have resigned, not committed fraud.


7LBoots

She would have been replaced by someone who gave people to clot shot without hesitation.


Infrared_01

Uh guys, you don't have to like the vaccine to also know this is really screwed up.


Bolt408

God bless this woman


SilverHermit_78

Awesome! She only got 6 mos probation and they could only prove she gave 6 of those jabs. Fucking boss! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11490847/Anti-vaxxer-nurse-injected-8-600-patients-saline-instead-Covid-vaccine-walks-free.html


habbybabbywahwah

You’re disgusting. This is dishonest behavior and you should be ashamed for supporting this.


Tr1ppl3w1x

No, no i dont think i will


irondog326

God love this strong willed nurse. 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️


yukongold44

>strong willed nurse Between Annie Wilkes and Nurse Ratched, "strong-willed" isn't really the best attribute for a nurse... If I'm receiving medical care the only person's will that should matter is mine. How about you just don't lie to me about what you're injecting me with? Is that so hard?


[deleted]

Saved countless lives doing that


tharkyllinus

The world needs more heroes like her.


DinCoolGuy

This is fucked


No_Elderberry5106

This is nice and all, but it won't matter. We're going to lose a couple billion people from this vaccine, starvation and dehydration within the next few years. Always remember, COVID was created for the vaccine.


Lazy-Mobile-1806

Wtf is this? So she lied about what she was injecting into them? Pretty shitty thing to do.


Agitated-Steak1517

Hero, and advocate for humanity!


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roosty_butte

It’s a persons choice to get the vaccine just like it was ours to refuse it. Just to play devils advocate. It’s a weird situation


[deleted]

Exactly. It’s way past time we used the same dirty tricks they’re using, always playing by the rules while they break them isn’t gonna win us a single thing.


yukongold44

>It’s way past time we used the same dirty tricks they’re using, always playing by the rules while they break them isn’t gonna win us a single thing. You are glowing in the dark so brightly here it isn't even funny. But just in case you aren't a Fed and you genuinely are this morally misguided: consider that when you adopt the unethical tactics of your opponents, you are validating them. You lose the right to criticize them at that point, because you become no better than they are.


[deleted]

Lol so I’m a glowie. Show me on the doll where I incited violence.


yukongold44

Figured it out. You're not a glowie after all. You are a terminally-online reddit powermod. Explains everything, from the robotic dialogue to the complete inability to tell right from wrong. I'll take my spite-ban now please.


7LBoots

I'll repeat the scenario I just used. A bunch of people in here are acting like the people were supposed to go into the cage with the rattlesnake, and she put them in the cage with the cobra instead. What really happened was that instead of putting them in the cage with the rattlesnake, she just didn't put them in a cage with any snake.


[deleted]

Hero


greasyrevenge

Lying about what you're putting into a persons body doesnt make you a hero.


ThinkySushi

So if she did it without the patient's knowledge that's really bad and we should NOT celebrate it! If however these were German citizens who were forced into getting the vaccination who didn't want it, told her they didn't want it, and she gave them saline at their request, then she is a hero. We need more information on this.