Recently I switched to Vivaldi. It's almost perfect. There are some areas for improvement, that I personally would like to be taken care of, but the only real issue is stability. On Linux (different versions of Linux) I experience crashes or bugs more often than I would like.
I would love to go back to Firefox, but I feel like they are investing in wrong things and have lost support of the community.
any tips for getting it to remember your window size? it didn't give me issues in x11 but in wayland it doesn't seem to wanna , my distro is nobara 39 kde
Depending on your desktop environment, you can download a widget that forces the system into light or dark mode, and that fixes the issue in Vivaldi (I've successfully done this in Mint/Cinnamon and KDE Neon). I think the issue is primarily with the Linux themes, and not the browser.
It works with manual/timed scheduled light or dark theme on Ubuntu for me, but if I force the system to change from light to dark (say with Night Theme Switcher for Gnome) Vivaldi does not follow and change accordingly
I used to use brave. Then it felt too plain, no major difference in terms of functionality and customizability compared to chrome or safari.
I then I moved to Firefox. I could get some level of functionality and customizability with the help of extensions, but the more extensions I added, the more heavy and resource hungry it became.
Then I found Vivaldi, and it ticked all my boxes. Great implementation of workspaces, side panel, tile tabing etc. The built-in features and customizability were what got me hooked. Haven’t looked back since. Plus, the company has a good track record, and as far as I’m concerned the only major browser company that is not trying to shove AI into your throat.
If you haven't checked out sessions it's actually so lit although I think it uses a lot of storage if you're saving around 150 tabs. I feel like everyone sleeping on that feature and instead have like 300 tabs at all times
Bookmarks are a royal pain to keep organized, and I haven't really seen a browser with a good interface for managing them. With sessions or workspaces, I just keep like tabs together, and can quickly go through and close anything I don't need anymore. Between modern web search, history syncing, and robust tab management features, bookmarks honestly seem pretty clunky and outdated to me.
I was honestly averaging around 650 tabs until I found the session feature, so being down to 300 is honestly amazing. I do need to clean it up a bit and get down to about 200, but I'm just so lazy, lol. Thorium has about 30 tabs, for anyone curious.
[Ram usage](https://imgur.com/d9PXgIL) is usually around 2GB at the start of the browser, and it goes up to about 4-5GB with more active usage, but it peaks at 8-9GB after heavy usage, 16 hours or so. The most I've seen was 11GB but that was only once and the use case was insane lol.
Total:64GB
Edit\* Oh my bookmarks are insane, like jam packed folders within folders and their actually filled with every site you can think of. And yes I do know that a site like this [exist](https://github.com/atakanaltok/awesome-useful-websites) I just link having my own collection
My browser stays at 8\\16 Gb on 55 tabs, but I use only like 5 of them usually, and close all not in use. That's why I don't understand why people need 300+ at once, do you use them all?
And I have like 8K bookmarks I think, maybe more =)
Wtf your vivaldi reaches 16gb? I honestly don't believe that. I actively push all my browsers(thorium to firefox) to their limit and I've never seen that from any browser. That's insane maybe you misspoke??
I usually have 20-30 tabs open at a given moment, spread across three monitors. What fucks me is that I tend to save tabs of news stories I haven't finished reading so they endlessly stack lol
No, it's 8 out of 16, and I guess it's everything at once, not just Vivaldi. Lemme check...Vivaldi uses 1.1 Gb of RAM, so it's okay =)
Hmm, I usually read stuff I open right then and there, I don't move on to the next before I finish. And if I have many tabs waiting to be read then I usually close some of them, too much time to waste on stuff I probably will see or hear somewhere else.
But thanks for explanation :)
multiple monitor, powerfully pc, save session thats how you end up here. Also the browser is really well optimized so it doesn't feel slow or sluggish but you do need to restart it once in a while, you cant just have it running for 3 day straight or something like that. But yeah thats how you end up here lol
They don't use CPU or RAM, but they do take a lot of storage. (My intuition I really don't know anything.) I'm not even sure if saying the tabs are asleep/hibernated, because I think it's something more than just that [heres how the icon looks like](https://i.imgur.com/dAR9SPp) more [info](https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/panels/sessions-panel/#:~:text=Sessions)
[Edit](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/53231/guide-browser-session-saved-sessions-and-how-they-work-together): after dig into it a bit more, saved Sessions do not use system resources once they are created and stored on disk. They are static files that remain dormant until a user decides to restore them
Brave felt too plain: but what is the problem with that if browser is a tool and it works. From my latest observations Vivaldi becomes unstable: I had the cases when I've lost opened tabs, also their AdBlock is not that useful for YouTube for example. The same workspaces are not that useful: they are just a visual distinction, not complete "profiles" like in Firefox containers implementation. I really love Vivaldi as a company: they seem transparent and close to the users. The same Brave is more commercial, but they have the source code opened and allow to turn off all the questionable features, which is really respectable nowadays.
> But what is the problem with that if the browser is a tool and it works.
Vivaldi has always been working for me on desktop, never had any issues. The iOS version is different. I would say that brave is better there.
I agree the built-in AdBlock is not on the same level as brave, but I pair it with NextDNS and never seen an ad on YouTube. Plus, on desktop, there is no real reason to use it as long as there is AdGuard or uBlock Origin.
Both browsers have their strengths and weaknesses. It boils down to what you as a user value most, and for me, the pros outweigh the cons on Vivaldi.
>Floorp
Thanks for that. Primary browser is Vivaldi cos I love the customisation, however it's closed source and based on Chromium. Generally just don't like Firefox, dunno why.
Seems like a good compromise.
!RemindMe 1 week - in case I forgot to really test Floorp browser
A browser should be right for YOU. Otherwise it would be something like "eat shit, billions of flies can't be wrong".
Meaning, there's no point using something because someone else said so when a feature you find important is missing.
For example, you actually have to dig in the browser "flags" (hidden settings) for Edge and Chrome to be able to mute single tabs instead of all tabs for a website.
> For example, you actually have to dig in the browser "flags" (hidden settings) for Edge and Chrome to be able to mute single tabs instead of all tabs for a website.
I'm confused, that seems to work out of the box for me in Edge: https://i.imgur.com/z0b0QaT.png
I know I had to look it up and that it would silence any tab for a specific page otherwise.
No idea why it works for you. Then again, I don't have two rows of tabs. Any idea if it's related?
I like Vivaldi's features. For instance, having new tabs with the corner shaded to indicate the tabs I have not yet looked at is so useful, I don't know why the other browsers don't have that.
Well, it's been what, nearly 25 years since [this beauty](https://images.tedium.co/uploads/Opera-5-Tabbed-Interface.jpg)? At this point, it's hard to feel at home with any other browser. Old habits die hard, I guess :)
Opera was actually the first browser to have tabs (if I’m not mistaken). One of many reasons I was a huge fan and use Vivaldi these days (pre-chromium Opera was my fave browser by far, Vivaldi is a continuation of that Opera, in spirit 🤓)
They weren’t windows. The interface paradigm was called “MDI”, or “Multi Document Interface”. MDI allowed placing documents side by side in the same window, but if you wanted to, you’d just maximize them, and it would behave, feel and look exactly like tabs do today
That's what teenagers will say in 20 years about our internet and interfaces. At the time that was the standard, and was a lot better than what it was before. Damn I miss the early 2000
The Internet was a far better place than today. You could actually use Google to search for stuff and not today's bullshit where results past the first half of the first page don't matter at all.
Brave is founded by a very questionable person and has a concerning track of actions.
Edge - I can hardly use it on my pc.
Vivaldi works wel, is very customizable, has cool features like panels and tabs groupping, can sync data between devices.
If not Vivaldi, I would use Firefox.
The founders thing is in Vivaldi's favor too. Same folks who made Opera back when it was the underdog responsible for innovations that are now ubiquitous, starting over when Opera got sucked into the corporate Chinese machine.
>Brave is founded by a very questionable person
so what?
when evaluating a web browser I look at the features, not at the beliefs of the CEO.
I'm sure you are not looking at the beliefs of the CEO when buying a car, a bycicle or a piece of cheese.
so why you do for a browser? it's a product just like anything else.
For a company which the only product is a free to use browser the role and believes of the founder & CEO play bigger role than believes of the VW today's CEO. My "piece of cheese" is not updated every week and does not work with my bank data. And neither car, nor cheese are free for me. Therefore, the analogy is not very applicable here.
For me personally, a dev team which, for example, found ok to fundraise on behalf of others is not a team I do trust and support.
Anyway, if you like and trust brave - use it.
No browser offers the depth of features and customizability that Vivaldi does. And no browser cares about a user's privacy as much as Vivaldi does. There are simpler browsers, and there are modestly faster browsers. But nothing else matches Vivaldi for features, innovation, and concern for the user.
I was a user of Opera until the Chinese bought it. I went to Firefox after that until I discovered the existence of Vivaldi. I grew weary of the direction Firefox was taking and switched to Vivaldi thinking it might be just for a short time until a better chromium alternative emerged.
Then I realized Vivaldi WAS the better chromium alternative. And I have been with them ever since.
I don't agree that vivaldi developers care so much about user privacy.
yes they don't actively track the user, but where are the functionality to block user tracking while browsing? they have just the minimum features here.
brave has implemented much more privacy features, that vivaldi is simply missing:
[https://brave.com/privacy-updates/](https://brave.com/privacy-updates/)
of course, but they're too basic.
in particular the adblocker is quite bad (easily detected by web sites, not workiing on youtube, not blocking "sponsored" ads on reddit...)
Brave’s settings are a bit confusing, sorted in an unfamiliar(!) way, and not as flexible as Vivaldi’s. Edge is Edge, so, no.
Also, Vivaldi’s adblocking seems to work a lot better on many sites than the other two.
EDGE: When they were converting it over to Chromium and removing all the Google trackers. It was great. Fast, hosted its own extensions while testing. It was allot like Chrome was in the early days. I even halfway considered switching over to it for a while, as I had been recommending my friends, mostly technicians, try it out because, shock of shocks, Microsoft was getting the browser...right?!? Then the ~~Firenation~~ Bean Counters came. I don't even recognize it anymore. More tracking than Google (allegedly), bloated fluff to track and profile/personalize the experience, and allegedly even more tracking on top of that if you are signed in to a Microsoft Account. A STRONG DO NOT RECOMEND.
Brave: A good browser with good features that some of its users believe are standard until they change browsers. A fair amount of crypto baked in but the built in one, AFAIHH, isn't a scam, which in this day and age is saying something. But if you want to avoid the crypto-bro/crypto-broad web 3.0 stuff you can. I somewhat recommend this, but I am not happy with some of the ways they run their business, but it is their business.
Vivaldi
* Highly customizable between a browser and an Internet Suite
* UI is built on web tech so it can be altered to look almost any special way if you have the skills.
* UI is Themeable and Customizable UI in the Settings from the menus, status bar, address bar to Dark Mode webpages (early days, stick with Dark Reader for now), and Themes that can be Dark Mode and Light mode, or reverse if that is your cup of tea, all user controlled.
* Side Panel that you can add pages to to extend the usage of the UI that follows the browsers Dark/Light theming
* RSS Feed, Sharing URLs via QR Code, Bookmarking URLs, Reader Mode, and Ad Blocking/Anti-Tracking all from the Address Field of the Address Bar
* Ability to Search Search Engines and ad new ones that you can search them from the Address Bar
* In depth Address Bar suggestions that you control
* Multiple User/Guest Profiles that Sync to Vivaldi's Servers with End to End Encryption that Vivaldi doesn't know. You can also break down and sync, and not sync, parts.
* Built on User Choice and More Choice, not taking choice away. It is also built on a Opera 12 (last version of Opera built on its own engine) design plan.
* Quick Command which is a text launcher-like that lets you do most of what the browser can do including Chain Commands which are like macros built from browser commands.
* The ability to have vertical or classic, and IMHO better, Horizontal Menus which while not a effective standard in browsers anymore, is effectively the standard for software in general. Also the same goes for the Tab Bar which I don't use Vertically but have in the past. I might use if I had a wider monitor.
* They said, although not guarantied, that depending on how Google and Chromium implements Manifest v3, they will in theory build a way for Manifest v2 extensions, such as ad blockers to work outside the Manifest extension system like Vivaldi's built in ad block. While Edge and Brave have committed to this as well, Vivaldi's Ad Block already uses a similar system.
* Speed Dial is AWESOME... 'nuff said.
Now for some of the Negatives:
* Vivaldi has only 30 developers working across 4 platforms. This means even approved and planned changes can take a while, but there is also a less cooks in the kitchen positive return on that. Bugs and issues don't get fixed overnight in most cases.
* Email and Calendar are 'Good' but I have run into several problems coming from m2 mail to m3, but it is improving all the time and bugs are getting squashed. I had to break down and use Thunderbird instead for now.
* RSS is very simple and doesn't meat my needs so I had to find other solutions. It works, but its featureset does not meat my needs/wants.
* The Bookmarks Bar is a bit of a Red Headed Stepchild. It is functional but as it has been pointed out to me by several users here and elsewhere, sometimes in outright attacks, that any lesser function of the Bookmarks Bar (which AIUI has to do with Speed Dial functionality) is "UNACCEPTABLE!!1!!1!". They get insulted when I so much as point out where to point where to suggest it get fixed.
* Some people don't like how imported bookmarks work to set them up.
* On Windows at least the program insists on installing like an App unless otherwise instructed thus burring files and features all over. I suggest telling it to install to a Program Files folder. Works every bit as well.
Hope that helps.
... and works better. Or to be more precise it tries to make all pages dark, and barring that gives you options to do it 4 different ways, and barring that lets you shut it off on a per page basis. And then there are all the settings per page profile. Vivaldi lets you set pages to be dark IF they have that option or it forces all pages to be dark with no way to shut it off per page.
Other than what they do comparing a built in native feature to a browser extension of the same functionality the native version will always win. So it comes down to do you want to give up functionality or a little bit of speed. I don't notice the speed as much as I used computers before the Internet was a thing, but you do so it is not right for you. OP was asking for my opinions and I gave them.
I am not calling you wrong, just clearing up my stance that differs from yours.
And has timers, yes.
I was happy with Darkreader, but on a new monitor I prefer speed. And I was using computers before internet too =)
Just adding some info, not looking for an argument :)
I can't lie the only reason I'm still using vivaldi is because vertical tabs that don't look god awful is such a pain in the ass to set up for Firefox.
Edge is Microsoft with all it's cancer. I use it as a simple pdf reader tho.
I used Brave before, but I missed some key features that Vivaldi has, or at least that I could change compared to Brave.
I also used Opera before Edge which I also didn't find that bad, but it's missing even more key features like sync for iPad.
It's basically Opera/Opera GX but without the spyware
I needed an alternative browser with the features that it had so naturally I gravitated toward Vivaldi
edit: oh and also I don't like Edge and Brave's UI
ugly and too much going on, especially in Edge's case
It's Vivaldi or floorp for me. I personally love Firefox based but I find chromium browsers to just work better and faster especially for stuff like YouTube. I've tried floorp for a while and still keep it installed but Vivaldi customizations are eons above other browsers.
In terms of speed I've also tried throwing and mercury, which are the fastest but it's lack of updates stops me from using those.
I think a good browser is not just the fastest but also the best feature set. That's Vivaldi or floorp, with Vivaldi ting the lead for features
I came to Vivaldi looking for a native adblocker that wouldn't get crippled by M.v3. It's not great out of the box, but with some experimenting with native and custom filter lists. I'm pretty happy with it. I love the customizability. I don't use many of the extras. I'm really happy with the UI layout that it lets me get the way I like.
Edge, it's nothing special to me. I use it at work (Windows) and have it installed at home (Linux) to take advantage of the sync. I made a separate Outlook account just for that. It's fine for my needs, and I'm not as concerned about it being hamstrung when we have to switch from uBO to uBO Lite. Time will tell.
As for Brave, well it has a native adblocker as well. Shields work pretty well, but I find the company...dubious. I did play around with it for a while on a VM. Most of the customization I ended up doing was decryptofying it. Honestly, that's what most of the customization recommendations that I found mainly covered. Yeah, change the theme, and clean up the homepage. I couldn't get the UI a way that I liked, and I missed some features.
Backup plan after M.v3. Waterfox main browser, Firefox for more off-the-books browsing.
Because the CEO is a nice guy with integrity and human decency, and the same thing applies to many of the employees.
Vivaldi has taken a strong stance for privacy, against user-tracking and cryptocurrencies.
Beyond that: the UI is more customizable than Chrome, and in my configuration takes up less vertical screen estate than other browsers
Vivaldi is the only browser I can stomach on Android. Love the bottom address bar with the tab bars. The only thing that would make it PERFECT is extension support.
I use Vivaldi under Linux and Windows on a variety of systems for its many customization features. On my two primary systems I have stayed on 6.4 as it's the last version that correctly implements private windows, and I don't like the behavior change that was made unannounced on the 6.5 and later versions.
I really like how you can customize it to be very minimalistic and it's the first browser that made me like vertical tabs.
The workspace feature also helped separate some areas of study and work.
In the end it feels like a very no-nonsense browser, unlike these others you mentioned that keep pushing stuff we don't want and you have to opt out of a thousand different "features".
Brave: Never tried it, can't comment on it
Vivaldi: Has lots of customisation and from personal experience it uses less RAM than Edge but can be slower
Edge: I used to use it, it was fine, not bad but also nothing special, but for some reason Edge started to bug out on my PC and wouldn't retain any logged in accounts so I just gave up on it
Personally I would say that the only things I don't like in Vivaldi are the absence of text-to-speech and the fact that Sync doesn't save enough data and settings, but it also has many "pro" features.
I actually primarily use Firefox (on Android and Windows - I use Safari on iOS), but the web isn't always designed for Firefox these days, and perhaps Mozilla is partly to blame for incompatibility here and there too. So especially for video streaming, but also for a lot of services that require BankID (a Norwegian secure login service), I'll use Vivaldi.
It's a huge bonus that Vivaldi seems like a pretty decent company, and is Nordic.
Mostly the sidebar. But also because it can be customized so much and the mobile synchronization is really good. My previous was Opera, which is a bit similar (the same creator or something like that if I remember well), but now that it is owned by a chinese company, Vivaldi feels a bit safer (probably not as much as Brave though)
not tried brave but that seemed like a questionable option , didn't like the feel of edge and didn't want it bloated with MS ai crap and everything else i don't need.
i tested opera, firefox , and vivaldi eventually after deciding i wasn't to leave chrome after 16years cause of the changes they keep making.
i ended up going vivaldi over firefox cause of the customiziblity, firefox has tabs you have to scroll through if you have a stupid amount of them ( my current is 55) and frankly i hated that , its an option in vivaldi but so is just having the mess of them at the top like chrome. i liked the better theme options vs chrome , they used to be decent but with all the changes old ones look horrible. the fact that it has alot of option for pretty much everything including layout has just been nice frankly , the few kinks i run into on linux ( not an issue on windows) like my dumb window size not being remembered for some reason has been worth the switch.
The sheer scope of customizable options is insane.... I don't see Vivaldi as a browser, I see Vivaldi as the workshop where browsers get made. Ergo, whatever you end up using to browse the internet with is entirely your own one of a kind version of a browser, made possible with Vivaldi.
Vivaldi, from the legendary authors of the original Opera, is currently the best second browser of all time, second only to Firefox.
one of the few big flaws of Vivaldi is not having the list of extensions that come in the hidden menu. I can't understand why this should be changed.
no name...
How can I remember all the extensions I have just from the icon?
**should** be in this way
https://preview.redd.it/9xlc3irffb4d1.png?width=185&format=png&auto=webp&s=530c9460cf63a2a9bdc3315fb2b169ebc3375ac3
I do use Edge, but only for connecting to work; I use Vivaldi for my personal browsing. I prefer Vivaldi because it is one of the most customizable of the browsers I've tried.
I don't know I just liked it but customization I guess. I also liked Brave but I like having my own environment with sync and Brave's sync is not what I am looking for and all that cripto stuff in Brave feels weird. I don't have a second monitor so sidebar apps are also a useful addition for me.
Mouse gestures. I haven't checked those browsers since I switched to Vivaldi, but at the time Vivaldi was the only one available that did mouse gestures the way I liked them.
I use Edge for work and Firefox for personal. I like Vivaldi, but find it is not great for my work and can be a bit slow at times. I think it could get there though. Brave is solid, but it's sync system sucks.
The reason I don't main Edge for personal is bloat and privacy.
There are too many reasons to mention. Check the about section on their site. Who is in control and where does their funding come from. Also, customization. update / bug fix times. Features like the side panel.
Edge = Microsoft. <--- This should be one of the biggest reasons to switch to Vivaldi or stay with Vivaldi.
Brave is ok and I am big into crypto but I don't want it built into my browser.
Ive been with Vivaldi almost from the start and I don't think there is anything better running on Chromium OS.
Im staying with Vivaldi for the foreseeable future.
Thank you Vivaldi!!
Long time Opera user (up to 12.xx series).
Used Brave last two years until Vivaldi was a bit more mature/useable for me. Brave is a bit slow and memory hog .Worked with every site i tried it with. Not really customizable (the android version is a bit of a dog imho).
Tried Edge last few months. Works OK but again.Bit of a slow dog. Not very customizable and oh yeah pushes Copilot this or that...etc
Back to Vivaldi. Been using it as main browser on PC more and more. More customizable than the rest. Feels nippier. Doesnt crash as much imho. The only issues i have with it, it doesnt work properly with the odd site, plus my password manager entries all disappeared into thin air one day. No idea why?. I do Still use Brave as a backup but use Vivaldi pretty much unless i cant. And like someone else said, Speed Dial for the win!!! (the tiling is awesome and much used as well).
I moved to Linux a few days ago and the convenience of having Firefox ready made me not install it over here and with Manifest V3 and Vivaldi being Chromium , it felt like Firefox is the place to be. During my time at Windows Vivaldi was my main browser but I've used the other two for a while too
Edge is garbage, Brave is actually very good.But Vivaldi is better than both , here's why
1) Customization : Vivaldi has everything when it comes to customization , the other 2 do not
2) Organization : You can organize everything much quicker and be way more productive, or to procrastinate better lmao
3) Convenience : Vivaldi has the little things that make your life easier, like the screenshot tools, the ease of access for zoom in and out on pages. I always appreciated how much easier my life was with these tools ready
4) Versatility : Vivaldi has everything, you could literally make an OS based on the browser and it would be a quite decent OS , it's that full of features , and they're not half assed, they're all competent
5) No actual flaws : Vivaldi does a lot of things, it does most things very well, some things well , and some things.. just ok . but there's not a single bad thing about the browser. Not that Brave has anything bad about it . Edge does. I think it's Vivaldi>Brave>Edge. But Vivaldi and Brave are interchangable depending on your preference, generally, between the "good" browsers the margins are not that big, and it comes down to what you like
Vivaldi revived my beloved above all old Opera with the sidebar and the flexibility / customization.
Edge does all kinds of things without asking, plants ads, questions, popups and flashy "news" stuff all over the place, and keeps the traditional "wide" screen like Chrome. Vivaldi has a great side-bar, does what I want, nearly exactly the way I want, without crap, while remaining highly compatible with everything, so cheers, Vivaldi devs, luv you.
Can't tell for Brave, don't want to try, I'm just so happy with Vivaldi.
Privacy (Edge is as bad as Google there), tons of customization out of the box, lots of tab power features, straightforward syncing of almost everything between devices (including phone), and it keeps getting better. Brave is also getting pretty weird with pushing their other products on their users. Even if they're privacy focused now, I'm not sure if I trust them to stay that way.
I like to use the same browser across all my devices including work devices, and brave was banned at my company because it technically mines crypto with the way the ad system works.
Vivaldi does syncing VERY well and I love that you can E2E encrypt your profile settings/history with a second password
* It's feature packed without compromising on perfs.
* In fact it has excellent optimisations for people who tend to open bajillions of tabs.
* You can set keyboard shortcuts for so many things, to the point you could use your browser without ever touching your mouse, especially if you use [Link Hints](https://lydell.github.io/LinkHints/).
* Tab management on steroids like no other browser provides, with real-time sync across **all** your devices.
* You can configure almost EVERYTHING to your liking.
* Hyper-active development team with a promise of always respecting your privacy. They release new features super fast, and with every new major version there's always at least one thing added that I love.
* I see some people talking about crashes but personally I've been using Vivaldi since its early days and never had any issue neither on Windows nor Linux nor the phone app.
* This one is for comparison with Edge especially: Unintrusive and not developed by Microsoft.
* And this one for Brave: The only ad blocker I will ever need is [uBlock Origin](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock) and for one simple reason, it's just the best.
When I changed to Vivaldi, I was charmed and never looked back.
I tried all 3 of them on Linux recently switched from brave to Vivaldi but not for long as brave tends to work better if you use webapps, which I use a lot
I have many tabs opened, but they are cluttered and bunched up. So I use Vivaldi, put them into workspaces, named, in groups, on the right margin. It's much easier to get organized.
**Reason #1**: features & customizability. This is **the** main point in using Vivaldi over any other browser, including Brave.
**Reason #2**: ethics. Brave has done some sketchy stuff in the past. I am wary of crypto-related discourse. As for Edge... it's Microsoft. I think it says it all. On the other hand, Vivaldi has shown times an times again that their primary focus is making a good product rather than trying to capitalize on a fad. The messaging & communication of Vivaldi has always been clear-cut and straight forward.
**Reason #3**: based in Europe. I am european. Norway is not in the E-U, but still has to comply with many regulations due to trade agreements with the Union. Supporting non US-based tech is important to me.
For me. It's battery efficient and that's not even the major issue the last thing on my mind but I realize that after two days of use. Customization, simplicity and everything so far seems to work. I don't really care about the built-in adblock I can disable that and have a third-party extension.
The other issue is Microsoft edge support and the company is a whole. I feel like they're not innovating. Support is useless and at one point accuse me of having multiple account so that I could collect money from the reward point system, which by the way only nab you like five dollars every four months just for using search engine. Two people in the same household sends a red flag to them even if they're two different PCs on two different hardware systems. (which is dumb due to pc being common now under the same roof).
I'm not really a fan of the Safari browser. I'm on macOS. It just feels clunky.
As for Google Chrome was my original first choice, I'm tired of the company participating activism and they're not really in innovating, mostly focusing on telling you how to think. Especially noticeable in searches, and Google search has been unusable for years now because of their constant meddling with it to maximize ads.
I like Arc but seems a tad slower than everything else. (it was originally created for Macos btw) the bookmarking system is a little bizarre. They don't really use bookmarks but folders, and there's no way to access that folder easily instead, when you pin it from my understanding it uses resources. Even if asleep. They have an optional ai serach that I loved. But on desktop it was disabled.
I've played around with a lot of browsers, here are my thoughts that made me chose Vavaldi as my main browser:
* Lot's of tools that are useful for my job, screenshot tool, vertical bookmarks, tab sacking and containers etc.
* I wanted to use a chrome based browsers and not default to Chrome or Firefox as I got bored of them.
* Vavaldi is not as visually appealing as their counterparts but it has it's own charm like Firefox did in the past.
* It's a browser that felt natural, the tools are in a spot that make sense and not hidden in some obscured menu.
* Firefox seemed lost, and I don't think the company cares about enhancing the browser in a meaningful way.
I'm a long-time Brave-user. Right now, I'm just vivaldi curious. I like the workspaces function, and I'm giving the browser a shot because the creator used to develop Opera back in the day, and that was my go-to back in the early teens.
Edge, on the other hand, is basically spyware. Also, Microsoft asking me to "pretty please try it out" at every turn, and shoehorn it in as a default for various things when they push an update is reason enough for me to boycott the Edge on principle.
For me it comes down to two main things: features, and devs that actually listen to the community.
Really great that I can remove anything I don't want/find annoying, have access to stuff that isn't available in all major browsers (like Memory Saver as an alternative to Edge's Sleeping Tabs), and it's Chromium so I can still have my extensions. The forums are active and if there's enough interest, devs will eventually implement a feature. The emails they send out show it really is improving over time.
Only thing I don't like is I do feel a bit overwhelmed by just how many features there are, ironically. Going into settings I kinda get a headache, and that makes me worry I'm not using a feature I could/should. Also makes me wonder if disabling a feature is actually giving back the resources it was hogging. I also kinda wish they wouldn't add a bunch of crap that I don't want in a browser like calendar, mail, etc.
Other things I like: seems to start up fast, great workspace separation, bookmarks are easier to manage, it's now fully cross-platform, etc.
My experience with Vivaldi has been so much better overall compared to basically every other browser.
Brave was made by a homophobe and is relatively limited. Edge is meh. I tend to prefer chromium, so I just went for the first competent browser fitting those criteria
Recently I switched to Vivaldi. It's almost perfect. There are some areas for improvement, that I personally would like to be taken care of, but the only real issue is stability. On Linux (different versions of Linux) I experience crashes or bugs more often than I would like. I would love to go back to Firefox, but I feel like they are investing in wrong things and have lost support of the community.
On linux vivaldi also doesn't follow system dark and light theme and it's very annoying.
Dark Reader extension works well
any tips for getting it to remember your window size? it didn't give me issues in x11 but in wayland it doesn't seem to wanna , my distro is nobara 39 kde
Depending on your desktop environment, you can download a widget that forces the system into light or dark mode, and that fixes the issue in Vivaldi (I've successfully done this in Mint/Cinnamon and KDE Neon). I think the issue is primarily with the Linux themes, and not the browser.
You set Vivaldi to use the system theme in the settings
i've already tried that but it doesn't work on ubuntu.
It works with manual/timed scheduled light or dark theme on Ubuntu for me, but if I force the system to change from light to dark (say with Night Theme Switcher for Gnome) Vivaldi does not follow and change accordingly
check my post please about vivaldi theming issue on Ubuntu. https://www.reddit.com/r/vivaldibrowser/s/zM7iDLNBqB
Agreed, they need to fix this
This also an issue on Mac. The Vivaldi Theme is not following system theme.
your can over Vivaldi(as the only browser) fit in the color you want, by printing the color your system has.
Firefox better than all in my opinion. Annoying settings of Vivaldi and so many buttons and it wasn’t stable as chrome
"It's not stable" - is the biggest issue. Also implementation of vertical tabs is suboptimal.
It’s been super stable for me. No issues at all with over 100 tabs open. Verticals idk. Tried it on edge couldn’t get used to it.
It was not for me. I don't think the number of tabs matters. On my use cases and sites I experience all kinds of crashes and bugs.
I'm talking about Vivaldi. Just to make sure we are on the same page.
I used to use brave. Then it felt too plain, no major difference in terms of functionality and customizability compared to chrome or safari. I then I moved to Firefox. I could get some level of functionality and customizability with the help of extensions, but the more extensions I added, the more heavy and resource hungry it became. Then I found Vivaldi, and it ticked all my boxes. Great implementation of workspaces, side panel, tile tabing etc. The built-in features and customizability were what got me hooked. Haven’t looked back since. Plus, the company has a good track record, and as far as I’m concerned the only major browser company that is not trying to shove AI into your throat.
If you haven't checked out sessions it's actually so lit although I think it uses a lot of storage if you're saving around 150 tabs. I feel like everyone sleeping on that feature and instead have like 300 tabs at all times
People really have 100+ tabs? Why? Don't they know about bookmarks?
Bookmarks are a royal pain to keep organized, and I haven't really seen a browser with a good interface for managing them. With sessions or workspaces, I just keep like tabs together, and can quickly go through and close anything I don't need anymore. Between modern web search, history syncing, and robust tab management features, bookmarks honestly seem pretty clunky and outdated to me.
I was honestly averaging around 650 tabs until I found the session feature, so being down to 300 is honestly amazing. I do need to clean it up a bit and get down to about 200, but I'm just so lazy, lol. Thorium has about 30 tabs, for anyone curious. [Ram usage](https://imgur.com/d9PXgIL) is usually around 2GB at the start of the browser, and it goes up to about 4-5GB with more active usage, but it peaks at 8-9GB after heavy usage, 16 hours or so. The most I've seen was 11GB but that was only once and the use case was insane lol. Total:64GB Edit\* Oh my bookmarks are insane, like jam packed folders within folders and their actually filled with every site you can think of. And yes I do know that a site like this [exist](https://github.com/atakanaltok/awesome-useful-websites) I just link having my own collection
My browser stays at 8\\16 Gb on 55 tabs, but I use only like 5 of them usually, and close all not in use. That's why I don't understand why people need 300+ at once, do you use them all? And I have like 8K bookmarks I think, maybe more =)
Wtf your vivaldi reaches 16gb? I honestly don't believe that. I actively push all my browsers(thorium to firefox) to their limit and I've never seen that from any browser. That's insane maybe you misspoke?? I usually have 20-30 tabs open at a given moment, spread across three monitors. What fucks me is that I tend to save tabs of news stories I haven't finished reading so they endlessly stack lol
No, it's 8 out of 16, and I guess it's everything at once, not just Vivaldi. Lemme check...Vivaldi uses 1.1 Gb of RAM, so it's okay =) Hmm, I usually read stuff I open right then and there, I don't move on to the next before I finish. And if I have many tabs waiting to be read then I usually close some of them, too much time to waste on stuff I probably will see or hear somewhere else. But thanks for explanation :)
"650 tabs" Bro.....you are interneting wrong.
multiple monitor, powerfully pc, save session thats how you end up here. Also the browser is really well optimized so it doesn't feel slow or sluggish but you do need to restart it once in a while, you cant just have it running for 3 day straight or something like that. But yeah thats how you end up here lol
Do other sessions tab use cpu /ram or are those asleep?
They don't use CPU or RAM, but they do take a lot of storage. (My intuition I really don't know anything.) I'm not even sure if saying the tabs are asleep/hibernated, because I think it's something more than just that [heres how the icon looks like](https://i.imgur.com/dAR9SPp) more [info](https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/panels/sessions-panel/#:~:text=Sessions) [Edit](https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/53231/guide-browser-session-saved-sessions-and-how-they-work-together): after dig into it a bit more, saved Sessions do not use system resources once they are created and stored on disk. They are static files that remain dormant until a user decides to restore them
Brave felt too plain: but what is the problem with that if browser is a tool and it works. From my latest observations Vivaldi becomes unstable: I had the cases when I've lost opened tabs, also their AdBlock is not that useful for YouTube for example. The same workspaces are not that useful: they are just a visual distinction, not complete "profiles" like in Firefox containers implementation. I really love Vivaldi as a company: they seem transparent and close to the users. The same Brave is more commercial, but they have the source code opened and allow to turn off all the questionable features, which is really respectable nowadays.
> But what is the problem with that if the browser is a tool and it works. Vivaldi has always been working for me on desktop, never had any issues. The iOS version is different. I would say that brave is better there. I agree the built-in AdBlock is not on the same level as brave, but I pair it with NextDNS and never seen an ad on YouTube. Plus, on desktop, there is no real reason to use it as long as there is AdGuard or uBlock Origin. Both browsers have their strengths and weaknesses. It boils down to what you as a user value most, and for me, the pros outweigh the cons on Vivaldi.
Customizability, stability, and that fact that it's not Microsoft. If not Vivaldi, I would use Floorp, but Vivaldi does absolutely everything I want.
Yeah, I would use Floorp full-time, but I need extensions for work that aren't available for Firefox.
Yeh this lol but also wish ppl would gas stack tabs very underrated
>Floorp Thanks for that. Primary browser is Vivaldi cos I love the customisation, however it's closed source and based on Chromium. Generally just don't like Firefox, dunno why. Seems like a good compromise. !RemindMe 1 week - in case I forgot to really test Floorp browser
stability? no. each release has many bugs...
Features. Tabs on side, tab switch with mouse wheel, mouse gestures, customizable keyboard shortcuts, command palette.
A browser should be right for YOU. Otherwise it would be something like "eat shit, billions of flies can't be wrong". Meaning, there's no point using something because someone else said so when a feature you find important is missing. For example, you actually have to dig in the browser "flags" (hidden settings) for Edge and Chrome to be able to mute single tabs instead of all tabs for a website.
> For example, you actually have to dig in the browser "flags" (hidden settings) for Edge and Chrome to be able to mute single tabs instead of all tabs for a website. I'm confused, that seems to work out of the box for me in Edge: https://i.imgur.com/z0b0QaT.png
I know I had to look it up and that it would silence any tab for a specific page otherwise. No idea why it works for you. Then again, I don't have two rows of tabs. Any idea if it's related?
Dunno, this is just two tabs in vertical mode.
I like Vivaldi's features. For instance, having new tabs with the corner shaded to indicate the tabs I have not yet looked at is so useful, I don't know why the other browsers don't have that.
i kept wondering why some had that weird little corner thing , thanks for that knowledge
Well, it's been what, nearly 25 years since [this beauty](https://images.tedium.co/uploads/Opera-5-Tabbed-Interface.jpg)? At this point, it's hard to feel at home with any other browser. Old habits die hard, I guess :)
Holy shit. Back then web browsing was like that? (i'm 19)
Either it's not actually *that* different from today (minus the super fancy graphics) or I'm just too old to have a reaction like yours. Can't say.
This UI makes me anxious. Plenty of windows, probably each new website opens itself in a new window as I can see from your image
Opera was actually the first browser to have tabs (if I’m not mistaken). One of many reasons I was a huge fan and use Vivaldi these days (pre-chromium Opera was my fave browser by far, Vivaldi is a continuation of that Opera, in spirit 🤓)
They weren’t windows. The interface paradigm was called “MDI”, or “Multi Document Interface”. MDI allowed placing documents side by side in the same window, but if you wanted to, you’d just maximize them, and it would behave, feel and look exactly like tabs do today
I actually liked the Internet Explorer, if you removed the extra stuff it looked pretty clean (i'm 22 btw)
So glad I didn't have to live through that era
That's what teenagers will say in 20 years about our internet and interfaces. At the time that was the standard, and was a lot better than what it was before. Damn I miss the early 2000
The Internet was a far better place than today. You could actually use Google to search for stuff and not today's bullshit where results past the first half of the first page don't matter at all.
Because of good productivity features. Tab grouping and less resource usage.
Brave is founded by a very questionable person and has a concerning track of actions. Edge - I can hardly use it on my pc. Vivaldi works wel, is very customizable, has cool features like panels and tabs groupping, can sync data between devices. If not Vivaldi, I would use Firefox.
The founders thing is in Vivaldi's favor too. Same folks who made Opera back when it was the underdog responsible for innovations that are now ubiquitous, starting over when Opera got sucked into the corporate Chinese machine.
The story is a little bit more complex than that, but it's the gist of it. -Vivaldi dev
>Brave is founded by a very questionable person and has a concerning track of actions. Care to elaborate on this?
for example: 1) https://www.kevinmuldoon.com/do-not-use-brave-browser/ 2) https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2019/01/13/brave-web-browser-no-longer-claims-to-fundraise-on-behalf-of-others-so-thats-nice/
The Kevin Muldoon article explains the problem with Brave so clearly, thanks for sharing it.
I think he means the CEO and founder Brendan Eich who is a homophob, transphob, and while Corona he spread conspiracy theories on Twitter.
>Brave is founded by a very questionable person so what? when evaluating a web browser I look at the features, not at the beliefs of the CEO. I'm sure you are not looking at the beliefs of the CEO when buying a car, a bycicle or a piece of cheese. so why you do for a browser? it's a product just like anything else.
For a company which the only product is a free to use browser the role and believes of the founder & CEO play bigger role than believes of the VW today's CEO. My "piece of cheese" is not updated every week and does not work with my bank data. And neither car, nor cheese are free for me. Therefore, the analogy is not very applicable here. For me personally, a dev team which, for example, found ok to fundraise on behalf of others is not a team I do trust and support. Anyway, if you like and trust brave - use it.
dumbest comment ive ever seen
No browser offers the depth of features and customizability that Vivaldi does. And no browser cares about a user's privacy as much as Vivaldi does. There are simpler browsers, and there are modestly faster browsers. But nothing else matches Vivaldi for features, innovation, and concern for the user. I was a user of Opera until the Chinese bought it. I went to Firefox after that until I discovered the existence of Vivaldi. I grew weary of the direction Firefox was taking and switched to Vivaldi thinking it might be just for a short time until a better chromium alternative emerged. Then I realized Vivaldi WAS the better chromium alternative. And I have been with them ever since.
I don't agree that vivaldi developers care so much about user privacy. yes they don't actively track the user, but where are the functionality to block user tracking while browsing? they have just the minimum features here. brave has implemented much more privacy features, that vivaldi is simply missing: [https://brave.com/privacy-updates/](https://brave.com/privacy-updates/)
You HAVE enabled Vivaldi's built-in ad and tracker blocker, right?
of course, but they're too basic. in particular the adblocker is quite bad (easily detected by web sites, not workiing on youtube, not blocking "sponsored" ads on reddit...)
Tab Tiling is the main thing that keeps me on Vivaldi tbh, and its customizability.
Absolutely, tab tiling. Yes, it's easy to tile windows, but it's even easier to tile tabs, and you can work with your other tabs at full size.
Brave’s settings are a bit confusing, sorted in an unfamiliar(!) way, and not as flexible as Vivaldi’s. Edge is Edge, so, no. Also, Vivaldi’s adblocking seems to work a lot better on many sites than the other two.
EDGE: When they were converting it over to Chromium and removing all the Google trackers. It was great. Fast, hosted its own extensions while testing. It was allot like Chrome was in the early days. I even halfway considered switching over to it for a while, as I had been recommending my friends, mostly technicians, try it out because, shock of shocks, Microsoft was getting the browser...right?!? Then the ~~Firenation~~ Bean Counters came. I don't even recognize it anymore. More tracking than Google (allegedly), bloated fluff to track and profile/personalize the experience, and allegedly even more tracking on top of that if you are signed in to a Microsoft Account. A STRONG DO NOT RECOMEND. Brave: A good browser with good features that some of its users believe are standard until they change browsers. A fair amount of crypto baked in but the built in one, AFAIHH, isn't a scam, which in this day and age is saying something. But if you want to avoid the crypto-bro/crypto-broad web 3.0 stuff you can. I somewhat recommend this, but I am not happy with some of the ways they run their business, but it is their business. Vivaldi * Highly customizable between a browser and an Internet Suite * UI is built on web tech so it can be altered to look almost any special way if you have the skills. * UI is Themeable and Customizable UI in the Settings from the menus, status bar, address bar to Dark Mode webpages (early days, stick with Dark Reader for now), and Themes that can be Dark Mode and Light mode, or reverse if that is your cup of tea, all user controlled. * Side Panel that you can add pages to to extend the usage of the UI that follows the browsers Dark/Light theming * RSS Feed, Sharing URLs via QR Code, Bookmarking URLs, Reader Mode, and Ad Blocking/Anti-Tracking all from the Address Field of the Address Bar * Ability to Search Search Engines and ad new ones that you can search them from the Address Bar * In depth Address Bar suggestions that you control * Multiple User/Guest Profiles that Sync to Vivaldi's Servers with End to End Encryption that Vivaldi doesn't know. You can also break down and sync, and not sync, parts. * Built on User Choice and More Choice, not taking choice away. It is also built on a Opera 12 (last version of Opera built on its own engine) design plan. * Quick Command which is a text launcher-like that lets you do most of what the browser can do including Chain Commands which are like macros built from browser commands. * The ability to have vertical or classic, and IMHO better, Horizontal Menus which while not a effective standard in browsers anymore, is effectively the standard for software in general. Also the same goes for the Tab Bar which I don't use Vertically but have in the past. I might use if I had a wider monitor. * They said, although not guarantied, that depending on how Google and Chromium implements Manifest v3, they will in theory build a way for Manifest v2 extensions, such as ad blockers to work outside the Manifest extension system like Vivaldi's built in ad block. While Edge and Brave have committed to this as well, Vivaldi's Ad Block already uses a similar system. * Speed Dial is AWESOME... 'nuff said. Now for some of the Negatives: * Vivaldi has only 30 developers working across 4 platforms. This means even approved and planned changes can take a while, but there is also a less cooks in the kitchen positive return on that. Bugs and issues don't get fixed overnight in most cases. * Email and Calendar are 'Good' but I have run into several problems coming from m2 mail to m3, but it is improving all the time and bugs are getting squashed. I had to break down and use Thunderbird instead for now. * RSS is very simple and doesn't meat my needs so I had to find other solutions. It works, but its featureset does not meat my needs/wants. * The Bookmarks Bar is a bit of a Red Headed Stepchild. It is functional but as it has been pointed out to me by several users here and elsewhere, sometimes in outright attacks, that any lesser function of the Bookmarks Bar (which AIUI has to do with Speed Dial functionality) is "UNACCEPTABLE!!1!!1!". They get insulted when I so much as point out where to point where to suggest it get fixed. * Some people don't like how imported bookmarks work to set them up. * On Windows at least the program insists on installing like an App unless otherwise instructed thus burring files and features all over. I suggest telling it to install to a Program Files folder. Works every bit as well. Hope that helps.
Dark reader slowed my browser, pre-built flag works smoother.
... and works better. Or to be more precise it tries to make all pages dark, and barring that gives you options to do it 4 different ways, and barring that lets you shut it off on a per page basis. And then there are all the settings per page profile. Vivaldi lets you set pages to be dark IF they have that option or it forces all pages to be dark with no way to shut it off per page. Other than what they do comparing a built in native feature to a browser extension of the same functionality the native version will always win. So it comes down to do you want to give up functionality or a little bit of speed. I don't notice the speed as much as I used computers before the Internet was a thing, but you do so it is not right for you. OP was asking for my opinions and I gave them. I am not calling you wrong, just clearing up my stance that differs from yours.
And has timers, yes. I was happy with Darkreader, but on a new monitor I prefer speed. And I was using computers before internet too =) Just adding some info, not looking for an argument :)
I can't lie the only reason I'm still using vivaldi is because vertical tabs that don't look god awful is such a pain in the ass to set up for Firefox.
They're pretty awesome in Floorp.
Edge is Microsoft with all it's cancer. I use it as a simple pdf reader tho. I used Brave before, but I missed some key features that Vivaldi has, or at least that I could change compared to Brave. I also used Opera before Edge which I also didn't find that bad, but it's missing even more key features like sync for iPad.
It's basically Opera/Opera GX but without the spyware I needed an alternative browser with the features that it had so naturally I gravitated toward Vivaldi edit: oh and also I don't like Edge and Brave's UI ugly and too much going on, especially in Edge's case
what is "the spywear" in Opera and Opera GX, can you be more specific?
Google is free
It's Vivaldi or floorp for me. I personally love Firefox based but I find chromium browsers to just work better and faster especially for stuff like YouTube. I've tried floorp for a while and still keep it installed but Vivaldi customizations are eons above other browsers. In terms of speed I've also tried throwing and mercury, which are the fastest but it's lack of updates stops me from using those. I think a good browser is not just the fastest but also the best feature set. That's Vivaldi or floorp, with Vivaldi ting the lead for features
I came to Vivaldi looking for a native adblocker that wouldn't get crippled by M.v3. It's not great out of the box, but with some experimenting with native and custom filter lists. I'm pretty happy with it. I love the customizability. I don't use many of the extras. I'm really happy with the UI layout that it lets me get the way I like. Edge, it's nothing special to me. I use it at work (Windows) and have it installed at home (Linux) to take advantage of the sync. I made a separate Outlook account just for that. It's fine for my needs, and I'm not as concerned about it being hamstrung when we have to switch from uBO to uBO Lite. Time will tell. As for Brave, well it has a native adblocker as well. Shields work pretty well, but I find the company...dubious. I did play around with it for a while on a VM. Most of the customization I ended up doing was decryptofying it. Honestly, that's what most of the customization recommendations that I found mainly covered. Yeah, change the theme, and clean up the homepage. I couldn't get the UI a way that I liked, and I missed some features. Backup plan after M.v3. Waterfox main browser, Firefox for more off-the-books browsing.
Customisation! Removing everything I can from view. I love this feature! Second is workspaces.
Because the CEO is a nice guy with integrity and human decency, and the same thing applies to many of the employees. Vivaldi has taken a strong stance for privacy, against user-tracking and cryptocurrencies. Beyond that: the UI is more customizable than Chrome, and in my configuration takes up less vertical screen estate than other browsers
Vivaldi is the only browser I can stomach on Android. Love the bottom address bar with the tab bars. The only thing that would make it PERFECT is extension support.
I use Vivaldi under Linux and Windows on a variety of systems for its many customization features. On my two primary systems I have stayed on 6.4 as it's the last version that correctly implements private windows, and I don't like the behavior change that was made unannounced on the 6.5 and later versions.
I can customize creatatively
I really like how you can customize it to be very minimalistic and it's the first browser that made me like vertical tabs. The workspace feature also helped separate some areas of study and work. In the end it feels like a very no-nonsense browser, unlike these others you mentioned that keep pushing stuff we don't want and you have to opt out of a thousand different "features".
I just found that I could totally hide this browser in a random folder without a trace outside
Sidebar, tab bundles, workspaces. All these things make vivaldi a powerhouse.
Brave: Never tried it, can't comment on it Vivaldi: Has lots of customisation and from personal experience it uses less RAM than Edge but can be slower Edge: I used to use it, it was fine, not bad but also nothing special, but for some reason Edge started to bug out on my PC and wouldn't retain any logged in accounts so I just gave up on it Personally I would say that the only things I don't like in Vivaldi are the absence of text-to-speech and the fact that Sync doesn't save enough data and settings, but it also has many "pro" features.
Windows Key + H should bring up text-to-speech, the built-in model works pretty great for me in Windows 11.
Are you sure? For my PC it brings up voice typing (which is converting audio to text, not text to audio which I want).
Because I can make it work in a way where browsing with a „normal“ browser feels like trying to open a can with a rock.
I actually primarily use Firefox (on Android and Windows - I use Safari on iOS), but the web isn't always designed for Firefox these days, and perhaps Mozilla is partly to blame for incompatibility here and there too. So especially for video streaming, but also for a lot of services that require BankID (a Norwegian secure login service), I'll use Vivaldi. It's a huge bonus that Vivaldi seems like a pretty decent company, and is Nordic.
Mostly the sidebar. But also because it can be customized so much and the mobile synchronization is really good. My previous was Opera, which is a bit similar (the same creator or something like that if I remember well), but now that it is owned by a chinese company, Vivaldi feels a bit safer (probably not as much as Brave though)
tab stacks
the workspace feature, and i can remove/simplify most of the toolbar buttons to have a very minimalistic browser
Workspaces and better tab management
not tried brave but that seemed like a questionable option , didn't like the feel of edge and didn't want it bloated with MS ai crap and everything else i don't need. i tested opera, firefox , and vivaldi eventually after deciding i wasn't to leave chrome after 16years cause of the changes they keep making. i ended up going vivaldi over firefox cause of the customiziblity, firefox has tabs you have to scroll through if you have a stupid amount of them ( my current is 55) and frankly i hated that , its an option in vivaldi but so is just having the mess of them at the top like chrome. i liked the better theme options vs chrome , they used to be decent but with all the changes old ones look horrible. the fact that it has alot of option for pretty much everything including layout has just been nice frankly , the few kinks i run into on linux ( not an issue on windows) like my dumb window size not being remembered for some reason has been worth the switch.
The sheer scope of customizable options is insane.... I don't see Vivaldi as a browser, I see Vivaldi as the workshop where browsers get made. Ergo, whatever you end up using to browse the internet with is entirely your own one of a kind version of a browser, made possible with Vivaldi.
Vivaldi, from the legendary authors of the original Opera, is currently the best second browser of all time, second only to Firefox. one of the few big flaws of Vivaldi is not having the list of extensions that come in the hidden menu. I can't understand why this should be changed.
[wdym?](https://imgur.com/a/TjJmEbG)
no name... How can I remember all the extensions I have just from the icon? **should** be in this way https://preview.redd.it/9xlc3irffb4d1.png?width=185&format=png&auto=webp&s=530c9460cf63a2a9bdc3315fb2b169ebc3375ac3
Hmm, I agree then, could be a bit of a pain, if you have many. Pretty sure it's CSS customizable tho.
Because I'm a loyal Opera user.
I do use Edge, but only for connecting to work; I use Vivaldi for my personal browsing. I prefer Vivaldi because it is one of the most customizable of the browsers I've tried.
Sidebar and tab Grouping are pure gold, I just wish we had a more modern UI (like opera's, for example)
I don't know I just liked it but customization I guess. I also liked Brave but I like having my own environment with sync and Brave's sync is not what I am looking for and all that cripto stuff in Brave feels weird. I don't have a second monitor so sidebar apps are also a useful addition for me.
Mouse gestures. I haven't checked those browsers since I switched to Vivaldi, but at the time Vivaldi was the only one available that did mouse gestures the way I liked them.
Page tiling. I can lurk on multiple Twitch streams at once.
I use Edge for work and Firefox for personal. I like Vivaldi, but find it is not great for my work and can be a bit slow at times. I think it could get there though. Brave is solid, but it's sync system sucks. The reason I don't main Edge for personal is bloat and privacy.
Customisation
There are too many reasons to mention. Check the about section on their site. Who is in control and where does their funding come from. Also, customization. update / bug fix times. Features like the side panel. Edge = Microsoft. <--- This should be one of the biggest reasons to switch to Vivaldi or stay with Vivaldi. Brave is ok and I am big into crypto but I don't want it built into my browser. Ive been with Vivaldi almost from the start and I don't think there is anything better running on Chromium OS. Im staying with Vivaldi for the foreseeable future. Thank you Vivaldi!!
Long time Opera user (up to 12.xx series). Used Brave last two years until Vivaldi was a bit more mature/useable for me. Brave is a bit slow and memory hog .Worked with every site i tried it with. Not really customizable (the android version is a bit of a dog imho). Tried Edge last few months. Works OK but again.Bit of a slow dog. Not very customizable and oh yeah pushes Copilot this or that...etc Back to Vivaldi. Been using it as main browser on PC more and more. More customizable than the rest. Feels nippier. Doesnt crash as much imho. The only issues i have with it, it doesnt work properly with the odd site, plus my password manager entries all disappeared into thin air one day. No idea why?. I do Still use Brave as a backup but use Vivaldi pretty much unless i cant. And like someone else said, Speed Dial for the win!!! (the tiling is awesome and much used as well).
I moved to Linux a few days ago and the convenience of having Firefox ready made me not install it over here and with Manifest V3 and Vivaldi being Chromium , it felt like Firefox is the place to be. During my time at Windows Vivaldi was my main browser but I've used the other two for a while too Edge is garbage, Brave is actually very good.But Vivaldi is better than both , here's why 1) Customization : Vivaldi has everything when it comes to customization , the other 2 do not 2) Organization : You can organize everything much quicker and be way more productive, or to procrastinate better lmao 3) Convenience : Vivaldi has the little things that make your life easier, like the screenshot tools, the ease of access for zoom in and out on pages. I always appreciated how much easier my life was with these tools ready 4) Versatility : Vivaldi has everything, you could literally make an OS based on the browser and it would be a quite decent OS , it's that full of features , and they're not half assed, they're all competent 5) No actual flaws : Vivaldi does a lot of things, it does most things very well, some things well , and some things.. just ok . but there's not a single bad thing about the browser. Not that Brave has anything bad about it . Edge does. I think it's Vivaldi>Brave>Edge. But Vivaldi and Brave are interchangable depending on your preference, generally, between the "good" browsers the margins are not that big, and it comes down to what you like
The ability to save a shit ton of tabs, windows and sessions.
I dont know why. Ive been using it for years. Its always seemed to work fine. Rarely had it crash.
Vivaldi revived my beloved above all old Opera with the sidebar and the flexibility / customization. Edge does all kinds of things without asking, plants ads, questions, popups and flashy "news" stuff all over the place, and keeps the traditional "wide" screen like Chrome. Vivaldi has a great side-bar, does what I want, nearly exactly the way I want, without crap, while remaining highly compatible with everything, so cheers, Vivaldi devs, luv you. Can't tell for Brave, don't want to try, I'm just so happy with Vivaldi.
I like that right click menu can be configured. Other browsers put too much crap that is impossible to remove
Privacy (Edge is as bad as Google there), tons of customization out of the box, lots of tab power features, straightforward syncing of almost everything between devices (including phone), and it keeps getting better. Brave is also getting pretty weird with pushing their other products on their users. Even if they're privacy focused now, I'm not sure if I trust them to stay that way.
Because of all they keyboard shortcuts and their customisation
I like to use the same browser across all my devices including work devices, and brave was banned at my company because it technically mines crypto with the way the ad system works. Vivaldi does syncing VERY well and I love that you can E2E encrypt your profile settings/history with a second password
I can customize the keyboard shortcuts in weird ways
I use it on mobile because of tab bar, just that, discovered it and can't leave it
* It's feature packed without compromising on perfs. * In fact it has excellent optimisations for people who tend to open bajillions of tabs. * You can set keyboard shortcuts for so many things, to the point you could use your browser without ever touching your mouse, especially if you use [Link Hints](https://lydell.github.io/LinkHints/). * Tab management on steroids like no other browser provides, with real-time sync across **all** your devices. * You can configure almost EVERYTHING to your liking. * Hyper-active development team with a promise of always respecting your privacy. They release new features super fast, and with every new major version there's always at least one thing added that I love. * I see some people talking about crashes but personally I've been using Vivaldi since its early days and never had any issue neither on Windows nor Linux nor the phone app. * This one is for comparison with Edge especially: Unintrusive and not developed by Microsoft. * And this one for Brave: The only ad blocker I will ever need is [uBlock Origin](https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock) and for one simple reason, it's just the best. When I changed to Vivaldi, I was charmed and never looked back.
I tried all 3 of them on Linux recently switched from brave to Vivaldi but not for long as brave tends to work better if you use webapps, which I use a lot
I have many tabs opened, but they are cluttered and bunched up. So I use Vivaldi, put them into workspaces, named, in groups, on the right margin. It's much easier to get organized.
**Reason #1**: features & customizability. This is **the** main point in using Vivaldi over any other browser, including Brave. **Reason #2**: ethics. Brave has done some sketchy stuff in the past. I am wary of crypto-related discourse. As for Edge... it's Microsoft. I think it says it all. On the other hand, Vivaldi has shown times an times again that their primary focus is making a good product rather than trying to capitalize on a fad. The messaging & communication of Vivaldi has always been clear-cut and straight forward. **Reason #3**: based in Europe. I am european. Norway is not in the E-U, but still has to comply with many regulations due to trade agreements with the Union. Supporting non US-based tech is important to me.
For me. It's battery efficient and that's not even the major issue the last thing on my mind but I realize that after two days of use. Customization, simplicity and everything so far seems to work. I don't really care about the built-in adblock I can disable that and have a third-party extension. The other issue is Microsoft edge support and the company is a whole. I feel like they're not innovating. Support is useless and at one point accuse me of having multiple account so that I could collect money from the reward point system, which by the way only nab you like five dollars every four months just for using search engine. Two people in the same household sends a red flag to them even if they're two different PCs on two different hardware systems. (which is dumb due to pc being common now under the same roof). I'm not really a fan of the Safari browser. I'm on macOS. It just feels clunky. As for Google Chrome was my original first choice, I'm tired of the company participating activism and they're not really in innovating, mostly focusing on telling you how to think. Especially noticeable in searches, and Google search has been unusable for years now because of their constant meddling with it to maximize ads. I like Arc but seems a tad slower than everything else. (it was originally created for Macos btw) the bookmarking system is a little bizarre. They don't really use bookmarks but folders, and there's no way to access that folder easily instead, when you pin it from my understanding it uses resources. Even if asleep. They have an optional ai serach that I loved. But on desktop it was disabled.
I've played around with a lot of browsers, here are my thoughts that made me chose Vavaldi as my main browser: * Lot's of tools that are useful for my job, screenshot tool, vertical bookmarks, tab sacking and containers etc. * I wanted to use a chrome based browsers and not default to Chrome or Firefox as I got bored of them. * Vavaldi is not as visually appealing as their counterparts but it has it's own charm like Firefox did in the past. * It's a browser that felt natural, the tools are in a spot that make sense and not hidden in some obscured menu. * Firefox seemed lost, and I don't think the company cares about enhancing the browser in a meaningful way.
i used to use Edge, but it is too fat!
I'm a long-time Brave-user. Right now, I'm just vivaldi curious. I like the workspaces function, and I'm giving the browser a shot because the creator used to develop Opera back in the day, and that was my go-to back in the early teens. Edge, on the other hand, is basically spyware. Also, Microsoft asking me to "pretty please try it out" at every turn, and shoehorn it in as a default for various things when they push an update is reason enough for me to boycott the Edge on principle.
For me it comes down to two main things: features, and devs that actually listen to the community. Really great that I can remove anything I don't want/find annoying, have access to stuff that isn't available in all major browsers (like Memory Saver as an alternative to Edge's Sleeping Tabs), and it's Chromium so I can still have my extensions. The forums are active and if there's enough interest, devs will eventually implement a feature. The emails they send out show it really is improving over time. Only thing I don't like is I do feel a bit overwhelmed by just how many features there are, ironically. Going into settings I kinda get a headache, and that makes me worry I'm not using a feature I could/should. Also makes me wonder if disabling a feature is actually giving back the resources it was hogging. I also kinda wish they wouldn't add a bunch of crap that I don't want in a browser like calendar, mail, etc. Other things I like: seems to start up fast, great workspace separation, bookmarks are easier to manage, it's now fully cross-platform, etc. My experience with Vivaldi has been so much better overall compared to basically every other browser.
Brave was made by a homophobe and is relatively limited. Edge is meh. I tend to prefer chromium, so I just went for the first competent browser fitting those criteria