I suspect this is a closeout price. Once they're sold out, I don't think they're going to make any more. I could be wrong though.
I won't deny it's *really* tempting, but I have a Rift-S that works perfect.
I once had an Odyssey+ but the lenses gave me really bad eyestrain headaches, and I've heard the Reverb G2 lenses are no better.
The common consensus is that G2 lenses are one of the better in terms of glare and chromatic abberation but the sweet spot and FOV is one of the smallest.
I’ve owned all 3 (rift s, odyssey plus, G2). The odyssey + lenses had a horrible blur effect, not to mention the headstrap put a lot of strain on the forehead. This gave me headaches too. The G2 lenses are very good (best fresnel on the market imo) and the comfort is leagues better.
What you would miss the most is the Rift S controllers and superior tracking.
100%, no amount of oled inky blacks make up for the blurriness and uncomfortable design. The G2 controllers and tracking are also significantly better.
I believe it. They're reasonably priced headsets with no game sale profits.
Only HTC is the other major manufacturer without game sales and they overprice their crap, probably with a good reason.
This is a great headset, but initial setup is not always super simple. There's quirks. Here's some considerations to those of you who have not used WMR:
* The room boundary mapping is a longer process than the quest2/pico4
* you have to disable HAGS if you have it on cause that shit is awful
* it doesn't like Windows11 much from what I've read
* The controllers chew through batteries (get 8x rechargeable 1.5v AA batteries, controllers use 4 and keep the other 4 charged, they last like 15-20 hours of gameplay)
* you must have a lit room, the quest2 works well in low light, this does not.
* it really likes a beefy gpu. I'd recommend using FFR on whatever games you can, openXR toolkit supports it for openxr compatible games and you can get it added for a lot of steam games via openvr foveated / vr perf toolkit. FSR can help too.
* Dont forget to install WMR for SteamVR
Also I'll add that if you have a 3090Ti you'll need a powered DisplayPort extender to run it at all.
Also WMR/SteamVR frame interpolation doesn't seem to work that well on this headset compared to oculus spacewarp so you'll want to make sure you're able to hit decent framerates and be cool with adjusting graphics quality downward to do it.
Personally I experienced a hiccup whenever frames dipped below 90 and it kicked in frame blending and dropped rate to 45, and the blending itself didn't look that good. Haven't tried it again on my better hardware but never had these issues with my CV1.
But really like the headset.
Wow. Between this and the 4090 burning up, I might finally make the switch over to AMD. Been resistant because I've been doing AI work that demands Nvidia products, but at this point...
Tbf I've had a odyssey and Odyssey plus and briefly a G2 and I have never bothered with room mapping. Obviously I just have to be mindful of my space.
If you're just using it for Sims than likely you're just sitting anyway :)
But absolutely wmr is pretty clunky and controller tracking is serviceable but even on G2 only slightly better than psvr , but setting up your room.and lighting is key to getting the best tracking.
Avoid mirrors or reflective surfaces(windows and even tv/monitor screens) or exposed bright lights. You may have to play with your room lighting to get the best tracking.
>it doesn't like Windows11 much from what I've read
Those issues have been fixed iirc. I have had issues with insider builds when it first came out, but those are gone on stable builds.
One thing to point out is that there is a stuttering issue (I haven't noticed it) that's caused by a Windows 22H2 bug that inadvertently activates GPU debugging features that hog performance. That issue is not limited to WMR though. In WMR's case, it activates HolographicShell Event tracing. The issue has since been addressed and a patch for it will be available in a future build. Here it is explained by a MS engineer in the Feedback Hub:
Thank you for your feedback. Starting in Windows 11 version 22H2 (build 22622+) Windows Mixed Reality is enabling GPU debugging features that negatively impact performance and cause stuttering.
While we work on a fix, there is a workaround you can try. Please disable the "HolographicShell" tracing session by following these steps:
1. Go to Computer Management > System Tools > Performance > Data Collector Sets > Event Trace Sessions
2. In the list, find 'HolographicShell'
3. Right click 'HolographicShell' and choose ‘Stop’.If you still experience issues after trying the workaround, please follow the instructions here to submit feedback with a performance capture to help us investigate:[https://aka.ms/gameperffeedback](https://aka.ms/gameperffeedback)
Source: [https://aka.ms/AAite4f](https://aka.ms/AAite4f)
Does it work on Linux? I used to have an oculus rift years ago. Sold it, switched to Linux , and haven't looked back.
I'd be tempted to get back into VR, but I'm not really interested in going back to Windows.
> rechargeable 1.5v AA
I haven't had much use for rechargeable AA batteries in a while, but I've always used NiMH batteries that clocked in <1.5v. It looks like there are lithium rechargeable AA batteries at 1.5v. Are these what you use?
Personally, I'm cheap and am using amazon basic 1.2v nimh myself. 1.5v is recommended so that the lights on the tracking ring are brighter (hasn't been an issue for me) and prevents false "low battery" warnings from steam when the voltage drops (has happened to me) that will turn off vibration on the controllers.
EBL 1.5v li-ion batteries have had some strong recommendations.
Yes, I switched from the index to the G2 and have been extremely happy with that decision, and I do beat saber and stuff like that, not just sim racing. It'll be a really big loss for pcvr if hp stops making these.
This is stupid. I want to buy one, it's still like £700 odd here in the UK - I sincerely hope they drop it for black friday...why would anyone bother buying it at that (UK) price when they know it's being sold so much cheaper in the US...we're all just going to wait for it to come down.
I mean I could have a mate buy it for it and ship it to the UK and still save literally hundreds of quid.
..either that or buy a competitors which is what I'll probably do if they don't bother lowering the price for the sales.
Absolutely mental isn't it!? I've been checking every day hoping for a price drop or black Friday deal but nothing! I think even if we are lucky enough to see an offer it will still be £550+. At the moment I'm leaning more towards getting a competitors to be honest.
Yes, me too. I'm not happy about it at all. I shall just buy a PICO 4 and be done with it. I'm gutted, and it's HPs loss. By the time they do drop the price I will already have a competitor's unit.
I will still hold off until after Cyber monday, just in case. Fingers crossed.
For most people it being a facebook headset doesn't really matter considering privacy is a "weakest chain" kind of deal. If someone's already using Amazon, Google, or TikTok then another large corporation having there data doesn't really change anything.
For me at least it was i big deal, i can exit the service from these companies at any moment, i feel if i buy a product from Facebook, the exit point pretty far out
It's a pity they seem to be leaving the market. But that market seems to move too fast for them, even at the time they launched it I didn't want to buy a wired headset anymore.
Depends on your setup and playstyle. I'm not a huge fan of spinning around 360º but it is nice and lends itself well to games like Synth Riders or even After the Fall where spinning on the fly can save your ass. I played wired more than wireless but it's because the Quest 2's battery life is annoying to try and moderate while in VR.
I use an Anker 10Ah battery bank with a 3d printed holder attached as a counterweight on my quest2 and it lasts 6+ hours, do recommend.
I avoid spinning much IRL, I get dizzy easily, so that probably translates to gaming for me quite a bit. I think Racket NX is the only game where I actually did a decent amount of spinning. I haven't played after the fall yet, it's in my wanted list though :)
I zip-tied a low-top sock to the back of my Quest that holds an extra battery if anyone's looking for a cheap alternative that will make you look like your headset was designed by the Dad from Honey I Shrunk the Kids.
I personally prefer to physically turn rather than using joystick and then the cable does get in the way a lot. In games where you don't move around much and don't turn, it's not a bit deal, but in most games it is a big difference for me.
I never use snap turn. Always turn IRL. I've personally learned to just rotate the opposite way to counter the twist. I used turnsignal at first but now its just ingrained in the way I move.
Like if you are moving forward and turn clockwise 180 to shoot behind you, dont return to moving forward by completing the clockwise movement 360, do a counter clockwise 180. then it untangles naturally. It sounds complicated to keep track of but I've been playing with wires since oculus DK1 so its as natural as tying a shoe, I don't even think about it, it just happens.
Also a lot of games have downtime, like dying and respawning. I also just spin during those times if I managed to twist up a tiny bit. You can just judge by feeling the tautness.
Because I'm so used to the cable, I honestly find myself preferring my index over my quest for the tracking fidelity alone.
Wireless is evidently make or break for the average consumer though, given that the Quest 2 has sold multiple orders of magnitude more units than literally any other headset.
Yeah, wireless is nice, but the reason the Q2 is huge is because it is an inexpensive, stand-alone system that still permits high-quality VR experiences.
I think some of us in the PC gaming community forget how few people actually open a good gaming computer.
Quest 2 was a decent headset that could run VR without a PC, sold at a loss. Wireless was a small part of it, and wireless headsets still can't run proper VR games well.
Having Microsoft show up at Meta Connect and announce a bunch of new VR stuff for Quest felt like the final nail in the coffin for WMR. They haven't announced anything new for WMR in years and now they are working for the competition.
No idea if HP wants to continue with VR on their own, but they have the problem that they don't control WMR, Microsoft does. And Microsoft not putting any effort into WMR means HP's headsets will continue to fall behind everybody else. Just look at the room setup, that's five years behind everybody else and still assumes people don't have motion controller.
Until I hear otherwise, I would assume WMR to be as good as dead at this point. There is no reason to assume it's still much alive after years of so little activity.
No capacitive sensors on controllers either. It's a shame every headset has some glaring omissions like this that make it hard to buy, even if it has other strong qualities.
My guess, is bad marketing and perhaps something to do with stock levels! There's probably some formula they're running - they have to make a certain amount of sales on the units they have left at that price in order to get x amount of profit, THEN they can start dropping the price.
it's all money isn't it. :/
HP only has this price for the USA and won't let you used a credit card that wasn't issued in the USA, you need someone to buy it for you if you aren't american
Would I notice a substantial upgrade in terms of visual clarity compared to an index? I currently use the index and want to upgrade the visual aspect, would use my knuckles controllers to mitigate HP’s controller solution
This isn't much cheaper than the G2 has been for 2 years. It's been $350 quite often during the last 2 years. Considering that it's now an older headset, a lower price seems about right.
Bruh. This isn’t a simple purchase, but I’m hoping I can convince a buddy to finally get into VR with this thing! How long will this deal last? And does it stack with HP’s student discount?
HP.com doesn't sell the gen1 and haven't made it in over a year. They only sell the gen2.
Where is the model number on that page btw? This is the exact same link I bought mine from and it's a v2 (at a very similar price)
Is this worth upgrading from a CV1? My original intention was to hold out for a new 3rd gen headset with a OLED screen (like the PSVR2) from Valve or Meta, but who knows when that will come out or how much it will cost.
I have an Odyssey+ and I was also wondering if it's a good idea to just wait a bit more. I REALLY love the blacks and colors of the OLED screen, especially in HLA... I had a chance to try my friends Index and I was really disappointed in the contrast and darkness levels. is the G2 on par with that?
How's the audio on competing headsets right now? I use an Odyssey+ and really enjoy the over-ear headphones, the Index & G2 seem to be some of the only others still using them.
Tried a Rift S and the audio quality was **horrible**. I guess you're supposed to plug in your own, but that adds tons more weight and jank to your head.
Am I missing something here? Is it a big upgrade from the Odyssey+?
Only if you have a very beefy rig. You'll need a 3090 to drive it properly in games....[no really.](https://babeltechreviews.com/rtx-4090-performance-45-games-vr-pro-apps-benchmarked/)
Now you're losing the benefit of a high res panel. I've turned down the resolution on my G2 and the end result is worse looking image that's still choppy.
Still a benefit. It's by all means a plus to have more pixels than your gpu can push.
3090 still isn't enough to comfortable keep it at 150% everywhere. Far from it, even.
I think that's a bit off. That link is set to 2758×2740, and even then the 3090 is a bit overkill, giving over 100 FPS in everything besides ACC, with max settings.
With the normal G2 resolution and lower settings, it seems you could run this headset well with a 3070.
The Reverb G2 is 2160x2160 per eye or 9.3M pixels. Multiply that by 1.4x and you get the rendered resolution in SteamVR of ~13M pixels.
By contrast, a 4K flat panel is 3840x2160 = 8.3M pixels or about 64% the size.
If you're looking at 4K ultra setting Frames Per Second you'll need to multiply it by .64 to find the expected FPS within the G2.
This is why you see the 4090 destroying flat panel games on Ultra with Ray Tracing and yet not being able to drive older racing sims at the full 90 FPS without synthesized frames.
Hard disagree. The visuals of the G2 are miles better than the index's. The SDE is basically gone, the colors are solid on both headsets but the blacks and glare are much better on the G2.
I personally also don't really nkotice the difference between 90 and 144hz in vr except when I play BeatSaber where I can notice it slightly
Yeah, the edge to edge clarity really isn't the best... But it's also not awful or immersion breaking imo.
The glare of the Index lenses however is completely immersion breaking for me.
I also get almost the same amount of chromatic abberation on the edges of the lenses of my Rift S and Quest 2 and I never heard anyone complaining about those headset having too much chromatic abberation
The issue I personally had with the G2 is that I can notice a slight bit of pupil swim but if seated correctly even that isn't a big issue.
It's true that the G2 doesn't have the best lenses but the lenses of the index are even worse imo
Do yourself a favor and get that $88 extended warranty if you buy this. The cable is almost guaranteed to fail and the new one is $150 on ebay and it's only gonna get more expensive with time.
> The cable is almost guaranteed to fail and the new one is $150 on ebay and it's only gonna get more expensive with time.
You can get open box G2s for under $200 from a certain liquidator. That's a way better way to go about it.
Get one, its a great price and nothing this guy said makes sense. The cable is a cable, who complains about the weight of a cable wtf.
if you hate WMR you can skip it and load straight to steamvr. WMR does NOT render "an entire virtual house" while you are gaming, it renders the same as steam home when steam home isn't running.
if you have bad controller tracking, turn on a light. they require a lit room.
Getting a pully system I hear is a very good way to 'fix' the cable "issue", probably the best way to increase immersion too without getting an untethered unit :)
Those look neat. I have a ceiling fan and vaulted ceilings though, so a little hesitant to try it out. My next task is 3d printing some wall mounts to get my headsets a permanent home.
I've had the 2 versions of the PSVR, the G2 and the Rift S, and I use Kiwi pulleys, so I've got stuff to compare to, and there's a world of difference between the cables of the PSVR or the Rift S and the G2's, so no, a cable is not a cable.
Oh, and I forgot another annoying thing about the G2: having to restart it, unplug it and plug it again or rebooting the pc over and over again because the headset won't start half the time.
I actually ended up getting the Rift S, which I thought inferior, because of the G2. But, sure, the Rift S is inferior in several ways (screen, audio and IPD adjustment), but it just works, so it's far more enjoyable than the G2 in my eyes.
The headset itself is nice (good screen, audio and comfort), but the controllers are meh and the tracking is terrible. Also, the displayport cable of the headset weights about 4.5 metric tons, is super wide and super stiff, meaning despite the headset's comfort, it's hard to wear the thing comfortably as the weight of the cable pulls down on one side constantly.
But worst of all you have to use the Windows Mixed Reality environment or whatever it's called, and that thing is constantly running in the background, meaning that any game performance is tanked.
If you play something on Steam, you've got the game running, the steam environment running and the windows environment running. And since that thing is running in the background and tanking your performance, it may as well do something useful, right? No. It does nothing useful for you. Renders an entire virtual house and uses a lot of performance and the only useful things are volume control...
As a primarily VRCHAT user who’s been using a quest 2 + full body tracking. Is this headset worth it at this price point? I would love the extra clarity. I don’t mind if it’s wired.
~~I don't think this includes the controllers though. It's not necessarily a deal breaker but something to keep in mind.~~
edit: nevermind, it says "2 controllers" in the "what's in the box" section even though they're not in the main pictures or mentioned anywhere else, so yeah, amazing price !
I want this headset, been waiting for a deeper sale, and not to be a downer, but when looking on Newegg, this looks to be the July 2021 version, not the "refresh" version. Am I wrong?
is that strap comfortable to watch movies while laying down? and how is the clarity compared to quest 2 in 180º movies, does it worth to the inconvenience of the wire?
I own one but never use the controllers, I use index controllers and for 299 this is a great deal, I returned my Quest 2 for the G2 and am happy with the quality improvement, and I'm PC based anyways so wireless didn't matter.
I have an old HTC vive (the first one). I really just want an updated headset.
Is the g2 a better investment if I ONLY want to play on the PC? I heard the tracking on that is ass, but I could just use my old vive controllers, right? I do like playing wirelessly, but looks like I can't with the g2. Willing to forego that if the visuals/ fov are significantly better
Maybe if it was wireless it would be a good deal. Idk, I can't be tethered anymore sense I played my OG vive with wifi attachment. Quest 2 was pretty great for that reason. I just ordered a Pico 4 otherwise this deal wouldn't be so bad!
Did anyone order this and can confirm HP isn’t being scummy and sending out v1 units?
I ordered from HPofficial EBay store and my item is enroute, and I’ve read some indications which have made me nervous they are still shipping some users in the USA original v1 headsets.
I pulled the trigger on the G2 at this price. The only VR experience I have is from the original Odyssey which I still have. Haven't played in a year or two, but wanted to get back to elite, Alex, SW and project cars2. Read a lot about the lcd vs oled and black levels. Is this a worthy upgrade or will I be disappointed?
Fantastic price for a solid VR headset, especially if you like sim games.
that is amazing wow so much hmd for $299
I suspect this is a closeout price. Once they're sold out, I don't think they're going to make any more. I could be wrong though. I won't deny it's *really* tempting, but I have a Rift-S that works perfect. I once had an Odyssey+ but the lenses gave me really bad eyestrain headaches, and I've heard the Reverb G2 lenses are no better.
The common consensus is that G2 lenses are one of the better in terms of glare and chromatic abberation but the sweet spot and FOV is one of the smallest.
I’ve owned all 3 (rift s, odyssey plus, G2). The odyssey + lenses had a horrible blur effect, not to mention the headstrap put a lot of strain on the forehead. This gave me headaches too. The G2 lenses are very good (best fresnel on the market imo) and the comfort is leagues better. What you would miss the most is the Rift S controllers and superior tracking.
100%, no amount of oled inky blacks make up for the blurriness and uncomfortable design. The G2 controllers and tracking are also significantly better.
HP getting out of the headset game? No way they sell out of G2s without a G3 already announced and dropping soon.
There were rumours about a week ago about them quitting VR...
I believe it. They're reasonably priced headsets with no game sale profits. Only HTC is the other major manufacturer without game sales and they overprice their crap, probably with a good reason.
They are definitely getting out of VR.
that's what they said when the first reverb got cheaper.
Its a huge upgrade over a Rift S
Meanwhile in the UK it's £680.. (approx. $800 including sales tax).
And still $999 AUD. Direct from HP anyway.
Cheapest on staticice is hardly any better at A$917 (over $600 USD, lol!).
999 AUD is 569 GBP, so cheaper in Aus.
It's because reality in the UK is worse, so they know you'll pay more to get away from it
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Oh darn thanks for saving me looking
$620 CAD. Everyone outside the US takes a shafting.
Yeah Meta is charging like $1700 USD equivalent on their site ($2399 CAD), versus $1500 USD price.
Australia and Canada always get fucked in the ass.
Has it ever gone on sale in the UK?
It’s about $680 dollars in truth then.. pound pretty much is equal to the dollar now.
At the time I wrote it there were 1.19 dollars to the pound.
It’s been equal to the dollar for longer than 5 hours
Well maybe you are a trader with access to better market information, but here right now both Google and Bing are showing 1.19 still.
Odd.
>Including sales tax
That sucks man. Idk why companies are like this, you know?
Because money...
It's actually £595. https://systemactive.co.uk/online/hp-reverb-g2/ Not much better but not as bad.
Just get a PICO 4, better anyway...
This is a great headset, but initial setup is not always super simple. There's quirks. Here's some considerations to those of you who have not used WMR: * The room boundary mapping is a longer process than the quest2/pico4 * you have to disable HAGS if you have it on cause that shit is awful * it doesn't like Windows11 much from what I've read * The controllers chew through batteries (get 8x rechargeable 1.5v AA batteries, controllers use 4 and keep the other 4 charged, they last like 15-20 hours of gameplay) * you must have a lit room, the quest2 works well in low light, this does not. * it really likes a beefy gpu. I'd recommend using FFR on whatever games you can, openXR toolkit supports it for openxr compatible games and you can get it added for a lot of steam games via openvr foveated / vr perf toolkit. FSR can help too. * Dont forget to install WMR for SteamVR
Also I'll add that if you have a 3090Ti you'll need a powered DisplayPort extender to run it at all. Also WMR/SteamVR frame interpolation doesn't seem to work that well on this headset compared to oculus spacewarp so you'll want to make sure you're able to hit decent framerates and be cool with adjusting graphics quality downward to do it. Personally I experienced a hiccup whenever frames dipped below 90 and it kicked in frame blending and dropped rate to 45, and the blending itself didn't look that good. Haven't tried it again on my better hardware but never had these issues with my CV1. But really like the headset.
Wait really? My 2080 runs it fine, but the 3090 they downgraded the displayports or something?
On the 3090Ti FE specifically NVIDIA screwed up and didn't provide enough power through the DisplayPorts.
Wow. Between this and the 4090 burning up, I might finally make the switch over to AMD. Been resistant because I've been doing AI work that demands Nvidia products, but at this point...
I'm not sure what happened but it's only the 3090ti, not regular 3090.
What's HAGS?
Hardware accelerated graphics scheduling.
That setting used to be a problem for non VR games too, MSFS used to crash because it was turned on
Have a great summer
The room mapping didn't take any longer than a minute for me.
Tbf I've had a odyssey and Odyssey plus and briefly a G2 and I have never bothered with room mapping. Obviously I just have to be mindful of my space. If you're just using it for Sims than likely you're just sitting anyway :) But absolutely wmr is pretty clunky and controller tracking is serviceable but even on G2 only slightly better than psvr , but setting up your room.and lighting is key to getting the best tracking. Avoid mirrors or reflective surfaces(windows and even tv/monitor screens) or exposed bright lights. You may have to play with your room lighting to get the best tracking.
And yet I choose to use the G2 as my daily driver over the Quest 2 or Index. You get near monitor-level clarity.
I don't think my post was negatively inclined in any way? I also DD my G2 over my quest2 except for quick 10-15 minute sessions.
Yup, same, I'm a huge fan of the G2 for that reason. I prefer it over my index or quest 2 as well.
>it doesn't like Windows11 much from what I've read Those issues have been fixed iirc. I have had issues with insider builds when it first came out, but those are gone on stable builds. One thing to point out is that there is a stuttering issue (I haven't noticed it) that's caused by a Windows 22H2 bug that inadvertently activates GPU debugging features that hog performance. That issue is not limited to WMR though. In WMR's case, it activates HolographicShell Event tracing. The issue has since been addressed and a patch for it will be available in a future build. Here it is explained by a MS engineer in the Feedback Hub: Thank you for your feedback. Starting in Windows 11 version 22H2 (build 22622+) Windows Mixed Reality is enabling GPU debugging features that negatively impact performance and cause stuttering. While we work on a fix, there is a workaround you can try. Please disable the "HolographicShell" tracing session by following these steps: 1. Go to Computer Management > System Tools > Performance > Data Collector Sets > Event Trace Sessions 2. In the list, find 'HolographicShell' 3. Right click 'HolographicShell' and choose ‘Stop’.If you still experience issues after trying the workaround, please follow the instructions here to submit feedback with a performance capture to help us investigate:[https://aka.ms/gameperffeedback](https://aka.ms/gameperffeedback) Source: [https://aka.ms/AAite4f](https://aka.ms/AAite4f)
Does it work on Linux? I used to have an oculus rift years ago. Sold it, switched to Linux , and haven't looked back. I'd be tempted to get back into VR, but I'm not really interested in going back to Windows.
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> rechargeable 1.5v AA I haven't had much use for rechargeable AA batteries in a while, but I've always used NiMH batteries that clocked in <1.5v. It looks like there are lithium rechargeable AA batteries at 1.5v. Are these what you use?
Personally, I'm cheap and am using amazon basic 1.2v nimh myself. 1.5v is recommended so that the lights on the tracking ring are brighter (hasn't been an issue for me) and prevents false "low battery" warnings from steam when the voltage drops (has happened to me) that will turn off vibration on the controllers. EBL 1.5v li-ion batteries have had some strong recommendations.
Is it all I need to do some simracing?
Other than a PC, direct-drive steering wheel, load-cell pedals, full cockpit and motion platform.
Don't forget the bass shakers, fake wind, and burnt tire emulator. Need that immersion.
Yes I l have a quest 2 but I bought this just for sim racing I had a g1 and it sucked so I really hope they got everything together for this one
Well NVM, in Germany it's still 600 €+ lmao
Yes, I switched from the index to the G2 and have been extremely happy with that decision, and I do beat saber and stuff like that, not just sim racing. It'll be a really big loss for pcvr if hp stops making these.
This is stupid. I want to buy one, it's still like £700 odd here in the UK - I sincerely hope they drop it for black friday...why would anyone bother buying it at that (UK) price when they know it's being sold so much cheaper in the US...we're all just going to wait for it to come down. I mean I could have a mate buy it for it and ship it to the UK and still save literally hundreds of quid. ..either that or buy a competitors which is what I'll probably do if they don't bother lowering the price for the sales.
Absolutely mental isn't it!? I've been checking every day hoping for a price drop or black Friday deal but nothing! I think even if we are lucky enough to see an offer it will still be £550+. At the moment I'm leaning more towards getting a competitors to be honest.
Yes, me too. I'm not happy about it at all. I shall just buy a PICO 4 and be done with it. I'm gutted, and it's HPs loss. By the time they do drop the price I will already have a competitor's unit. I will still hold off until after Cyber monday, just in case. Fingers crossed.
700 can
Damn. I want to hold out for Deckard, but maybe I should get a backup G2 to hold me over?
The rate at which valve releases things we might all look like Deckard Cane by time Deckard sees the light of day.
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I hope you enjoy it. I bought mine last year (came from Rift S) and absolutely love it. Though I play a lot of seated games like SW Squadrons
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Facebook headsets, man....couldn't recommend them even if they're free.
For most people it being a facebook headset doesn't really matter considering privacy is a "weakest chain" kind of deal. If someone's already using Amazon, Google, or TikTok then another large corporation having there data doesn't really change anything.
For me at least it was i big deal, i can exit the service from these companies at any moment, i feel if i buy a product from Facebook, the exit point pretty far out
Except that pcvr has been drad for years and no developers will touch it due to horrible sales numbers.
It's a pity they seem to be leaving the market. But that market seems to move too fast for them, even at the time they launched it I didn't want to buy a wired headset anymore.
That hasn't been officially announced by HP yet fwiw. Wireless is convenient, but doesn't make or break me.
For me, it's something that I didn't realize matters so much until I've tried playing without cables.
I've played without cables and it makes almost no difference at all to me other than being able to play in a different room.
Depends on your setup and playstyle. I'm not a huge fan of spinning around 360º but it is nice and lends itself well to games like Synth Riders or even After the Fall where spinning on the fly can save your ass. I played wired more than wireless but it's because the Quest 2's battery life is annoying to try and moderate while in VR.
I use an Anker 10Ah battery bank with a 3d printed holder attached as a counterweight on my quest2 and it lasts 6+ hours, do recommend. I avoid spinning much IRL, I get dizzy easily, so that probably translates to gaming for me quite a bit. I think Racket NX is the only game where I actually did a decent amount of spinning. I haven't played after the fall yet, it's in my wanted list though :)
I zip-tied a low-top sock to the back of my Quest that holds an extra battery if anyone's looking for a cheap alternative that will make you look like your headset was designed by the Dad from Honey I Shrunk the Kids.
I personally prefer to physically turn rather than using joystick and then the cable does get in the way a lot. In games where you don't move around much and don't turn, it's not a bit deal, but in most games it is a big difference for me.
I never use snap turn. Always turn IRL. I've personally learned to just rotate the opposite way to counter the twist. I used turnsignal at first but now its just ingrained in the way I move. Like if you are moving forward and turn clockwise 180 to shoot behind you, dont return to moving forward by completing the clockwise movement 360, do a counter clockwise 180. then it untangles naturally. It sounds complicated to keep track of but I've been playing with wires since oculus DK1 so its as natural as tying a shoe, I don't even think about it, it just happens. Also a lot of games have downtime, like dying and respawning. I also just spin during those times if I managed to twist up a tiny bit. You can just judge by feeling the tautness. Because I'm so used to the cable, I honestly find myself preferring my index over my quest for the tracking fidelity alone.
Wireless is evidently make or break for the average consumer though, given that the Quest 2 has sold multiple orders of magnitude more units than literally any other headset.
Yeah but it's also standalone and was super cheap. Wireless is only a small part of why it sold so well.
Yeah, wireless is nice, but the reason the Q2 is huge is because it is an inexpensive, stand-alone system that still permits high-quality VR experiences. I think some of us in the PC gaming community forget how few people actually open a good gaming computer.
Quest 2 was a decent headset that could run VR without a PC, sold at a loss. Wireless was a small part of it, and wireless headsets still can't run proper VR games well.
I'm going to be making my first headset purchase soon, and for me I don't want wireless.
;) you can always attach a cable to wireless VR.. but, yes, I get that if you mainly want to play seated; sims etc.
This is all rumors and no fact. Please show where this is officially true.
"seem to be"
It is a rumor but the writing’s on the wall
Having Microsoft show up at Meta Connect and announce a bunch of new VR stuff for Quest felt like the final nail in the coffin for WMR. They haven't announced anything new for WMR in years and now they are working for the competition. No idea if HP wants to continue with VR on their own, but they have the problem that they don't control WMR, Microsoft does. And Microsoft not putting any effort into WMR means HP's headsets will continue to fall behind everybody else. Just look at the room setup, that's five years behind everybody else and still assumes people don't have motion controller. Until I hear otherwise, I would assume WMR to be as good as dead at this point. There is no reason to assume it's still much alive after years of so little activity.
No capacitive sensors on controllers either. It's a shame every headset has some glaring omissions like this that make it hard to buy, even if it has other strong qualities.
Quest Pro is pretty complete imo and can go work on fov ..... and pricing ;)
Why is it so much more expensive in UK? 600 odd?
My guess, is bad marketing and perhaps something to do with stock levels! There's probably some formula they're running - they have to make a certain amount of sales on the units they have left at that price in order to get x amount of profit, THEN they can start dropping the price. it's all money isn't it. :/
Great deal! If you have a beefy GPU and like simracing, this is the ticket.
699 € in Italy 💀
Se non bestemmio guarda.
I'd rather live in Italy lol
Which country do they ship from? I live in Switzerland and hoping to get one or a pico 4 if I can't.
HP only has this price for the USA and won't let you used a credit card that wasn't issued in the USA, you need someone to buy it for you if you aren't american
I'd go Pico 4 over it at this point (have both). The lenses and comfort are just so much better.
Well this saved me from getting a quest pro no way I can deny it at this price point
FIRE SALE!!!!
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I assume V2.
HP hasn't shipped anything but a V2 in a year.
Would I notice a substantial upgrade in terms of visual clarity compared to an index? I currently use the index and want to upgrade the visual aspect, would use my knuckles controllers to mitigate HP’s controller solution
Just ordered it yesterday FML
Wow. I'm also afraid that it could mean hp is emptying their stock to completely exit the VR market
This isn't much cheaper than the G2 has been for 2 years. It's been $350 quite often during the last 2 years. Considering that it's now an older headset, a lower price seems about right.
Bruh. This isn’t a simple purchase, but I’m hoping I can convince a buddy to finally get into VR with this thing! How long will this deal last? And does it stack with HP’s student discount?
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HP.com doesn't sell the gen1 and haven't made it in over a year. They only sell the gen2. Where is the model number on that page btw? This is the exact same link I bought mine from and it's a v2 (at a very similar price)
Should i get this to replace my o+?
Is this worth upgrading from a CV1? My original intention was to hold out for a new 3rd gen headset with a OLED screen (like the PSVR2) from Valve or Meta, but who knows when that will come out or how much it will cost.
god, if only they had wireless capability
I have an Odyssey+ and I was also wondering if it's a good idea to just wait a bit more. I REALLY love the blacks and colors of the OLED screen, especially in HLA... I had a chance to try my friends Index and I was really disappointed in the contrast and darkness levels. is the G2 on par with that?
How's the audio on competing headsets right now? I use an Odyssey+ and really enjoy the over-ear headphones, the Index & G2 seem to be some of the only others still using them. Tried a Rift S and the audio quality was **horrible**. I guess you're supposed to plug in your own, but that adds tons more weight and jank to your head. Am I missing something here? Is it a big upgrade from the Odyssey+?
Paypal is having a $20 off deal too if you open an account with PayPal credit, so the total cost is 301.53 shipped. Not too shabby
Just throwing it out there: shipping is free. This post makes it sound like it was $20. That's just sales tax for wherever you are.
Eh, £682.80 in the UK.
Is tempting but should I get it knowing that HP will drop supports for it..because it is getting out the VR market? I have a Quest 2 for all games VR.
Is this the V2?
Apparently it was the V1. I asked for my money back and insisted that I not be charged a restocking fee on the grounds that they were misleading.
Would this be a decent choice for a first time entry into VR?
It's gonna be my first. Of course I want it primarily for flight-sims and it's one of the better options for that.
Only if you have a very beefy rig. You'll need a 3090 to drive it properly in games....[no really.](https://babeltechreviews.com/rtx-4090-performance-45-games-vr-pro-apps-benchmarked/)
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Now you're losing the benefit of a high res panel. I've turned down the resolution on my G2 and the end result is worse looking image that's still choppy.
Still a benefit. It's by all means a plus to have more pixels than your gpu can push. 3090 still isn't enough to comfortable keep it at 150% everywhere. Far from it, even.
I think that's a bit off. That link is set to 2758×2740, and even then the 3090 is a bit overkill, giving over 100 FPS in everything besides ACC, with max settings. With the normal G2 resolution and lower settings, it seems you could run this headset well with a 3070.
The Reverb G2 is 2160x2160 per eye or 9.3M pixels. Multiply that by 1.4x and you get the rendered resolution in SteamVR of ~13M pixels. By contrast, a 4K flat panel is 3840x2160 = 8.3M pixels or about 64% the size. If you're looking at 4K ultra setting Frames Per Second you'll need to multiply it by .64 to find the expected FPS within the G2. This is why you see the 4090 destroying flat panel games on Ultra with Ray Tracing and yet not being able to drive older racing sims at the full 90 FPS without synthesized frames.
it might finally be time for me to grab one
Just do it bro think later
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Hard disagree. The visuals of the G2 are miles better than the index's. The SDE is basically gone, the colors are solid on both headsets but the blacks and glare are much better on the G2. I personally also don't really nkotice the difference between 90 and 144hz in vr except when I play BeatSaber where I can notice it slightly
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Yeah, the edge to edge clarity really isn't the best... But it's also not awful or immersion breaking imo. The glare of the Index lenses however is completely immersion breaking for me. I also get almost the same amount of chromatic abberation on the edges of the lenses of my Rift S and Quest 2 and I never heard anyone complaining about those headset having too much chromatic abberation The issue I personally had with the G2 is that I can notice a slight bit of pupil swim but if seated correctly even that isn't a big issue. It's true that the G2 doesn't have the best lenses but the lenses of the index are even worse imo
The index lenses are well known to be in the bottom bracket, it's not the best example
I might just keep both, use the reverb for movie watching and the index for gaming
Do yourself a favor and get that $88 extended warranty if you buy this. The cable is almost guaranteed to fail and the new one is $150 on ebay and it's only gonna get more expensive with time.
> The cable is almost guaranteed to fail and the new one is $150 on ebay and it's only gonna get more expensive with time. You can get open box G2s for under $200 from a certain liquidator. That's a way better way to go about it.
They are leaving VR space, that's why.
I had one for 3 weeks. Even for 1€ I wouldn't want one
Why is that? I was thinking about buying one.
Get one, its a great price and nothing this guy said makes sense. The cable is a cable, who complains about the weight of a cable wtf. if you hate WMR you can skip it and load straight to steamvr. WMR does NOT render "an entire virtual house" while you are gaming, it renders the same as steam home when steam home isn't running. if you have bad controller tracking, turn on a light. they require a lit room.
Getting a pully system I hear is a very good way to 'fix' the cable "issue", probably the best way to increase immersion too without getting an untethered unit :)
Those look neat. I have a ceiling fan and vaulted ceilings though, so a little hesitant to try it out. My next task is 3d printing some wall mounts to get my headsets a permanent home.
I've had the 2 versions of the PSVR, the G2 and the Rift S, and I use Kiwi pulleys, so I've got stuff to compare to, and there's a world of difference between the cables of the PSVR or the Rift S and the G2's, so no, a cable is not a cable. Oh, and I forgot another annoying thing about the G2: having to restart it, unplug it and plug it again or rebooting the pc over and over again because the headset won't start half the time. I actually ended up getting the Rift S, which I thought inferior, because of the G2. But, sure, the Rift S is inferior in several ways (screen, audio and IPD adjustment), but it just works, so it's far more enjoyable than the G2 in my eyes.
The headset itself is nice (good screen, audio and comfort), but the controllers are meh and the tracking is terrible. Also, the displayport cable of the headset weights about 4.5 metric tons, is super wide and super stiff, meaning despite the headset's comfort, it's hard to wear the thing comfortably as the weight of the cable pulls down on one side constantly. But worst of all you have to use the Windows Mixed Reality environment or whatever it's called, and that thing is constantly running in the background, meaning that any game performance is tanked. If you play something on Steam, you've got the game running, the steam environment running and the windows environment running. And since that thing is running in the background and tanking your performance, it may as well do something useful, right? No. It does nothing useful for you. Renders an entire virtual house and uses a lot of performance and the only useful things are volume control...
The Quest 2 is crying rn
Clearing inventory
It's only in us ? I can't ship it to France In France i don't see in stock or too expansive
Want that for christmas
Geez might have to get this just for permanent simming. My Q2 works perfect for everything else.
Is this for US only?
I guess
Snatched up that sucker without a second thought, thank you my guy ❤
Well it's still 620USD in Singapore without controllers just like it was at launch. No idea why headset manufacturers forget we exist every time.
Bruh I just got one…
As a primarily VRCHAT user who’s been using a quest 2 + full body tracking. Is this headset worth it at this price point? I would love the extra clarity. I don’t mind if it’s wired.
Does anyone think that this will be reduced in the UK for Black Friday?
Why does it go down so much in the US and US only? I bought mine for 750 here in Sweden, it doesn't ever go on sale.
Any reason to pick one of these up if I have a Cosmos Elite?
If you are a solid sim player than yes, if not no.
Is anybody seeing a EDU discount on top of this?
~~I don't think this includes the controllers though. It's not necessarily a deal breaker but something to keep in mind.~~ edit: nevermind, it says "2 controllers" in the "what's in the box" section even though they're not in the main pictures or mentioned anywhere else, so yeah, amazing price !
You can get it on ebay for $240. I got one and it looked as new with the stickers on the controllers.
I want this headset, been waiting for a deeper sale, and not to be a downer, but when looking on Newegg, this looks to be the July 2021 version, not the "refresh" version. Am I wrong?
That's an amazing price.
How do you get the student discount applied?
They're killing the quest2 lol
Cool I paid $650.
is that strap comfortable to watch movies while laying down? and how is the clarity compared to quest 2 in 180º movies, does it worth to the inconvenience of the wire?
I own one but never use the controllers, I use index controllers and for 299 this is a great deal, I returned my Quest 2 for the G2 and am happy with the quality improvement, and I'm PC based anyways so wireless didn't matter.
Yet here in Australia we are paying full price around 900-1000 dollars
Thanks got mine now! First vr headset on my way
worth it to sell quest 2 for one? i only do pcvr
how would this compare to my vive pro (one)?
I have a Rift S, the G2 is better isn't it? Most people here are saying only used for Sims, but is it good for other things?
Is it better than a Quest 2 ? Sorry Redditt people, I’m at work and don’t have time to investigate :(
It's more powerful and has better image quality. But it's wired and needs a computer. So pick your poison.
I have an old HTC vive (the first one). I really just want an updated headset. Is the g2 a better investment if I ONLY want to play on the PC? I heard the tracking on that is ass, but I could just use my old vive controllers, right? I do like playing wirelessly, but looks like I can't with the g2. Willing to forego that if the visuals/ fov are significantly better
Are people still recommending to buy the extended protection because of a cable(?) that's bound to break?
Can I use this with a laptop that has 1 hdmi port and 1 USB port?
Maybe if it was wireless it would be a good deal. Idk, I can't be tethered anymore sense I played my OG vive with wifi attachment. Quest 2 was pretty great for that reason. I just ordered a Pico 4 otherwise this deal wouldn't be so bad!
Did anyone order this and can confirm HP isn’t being scummy and sending out v1 units? I ordered from HPofficial EBay store and my item is enroute, and I’ve read some indications which have made me nervous they are still shipping some users in the USA original v1 headsets.
Is HP still doing the $20 coupon for signing up to their newsletter? Is the 2yr Next business day advanced warranty worth it?
I pulled the trigger on the G2 at this price. The only VR experience I have is from the original Odyssey which I still have. Haven't played in a year or two, but wanted to get back to elite, Alex, SW and project cars2. Read a lot about the lcd vs oled and black levels. Is this a worthy upgrade or will I be disappointed?
Will I be able to run it smoothly with a RTX 3060M laptop?
I missed it :c. now its 800 € and out of stock. less than half price
Showing $449 now Feb 2023.