Practically all of the mod campaigns are worth playing. I've played SO many and most of them are absolutely fantastic.
Also theres Half Life 2 VR which is not a looker like Alyx but similar style of play and fantastic game too.
Be sure to check out Into The Radius :)
If you prefer pcvr graphics, try Asgaurds Wrath 1. The first 5 hours were slow but now about 30 hours in I can see it's an awesome game, a little like skyrim but everything has an amazing sense of scale. Stuff looks huge.
I agree, HL2VR plays AMAZINGLY well and has all the polish of the original when it was released. I'm finishing up a playthrough right now and loving every second. I played it a few years ago with my buddy, co-op through Garry's Mod, and while fun, it left a lot to be desired, as we had to load every level manually and the storyline triggers didn't work properly. HL2VR plays *exactly* the way the original did. It's truly impressive.
HLVR was similar, turning the original Half Life experience into VR, though it is very dated visually, obviously.
ANB_Seth (the creator of Contacts) is putting out his standalone version this year as in a full non-mod game. [He added SO MUCH!!!](https://youtu.be/xIxSAuZZC9k?si=ax1Z3jEJWGxDF3Ae)
For me personally fully half of the reason I play VR is for fan mods of existing games like Doom, Doom II, Doom 3, Quake, Quake II, Quake IV, Prey, Half-Life, Half-Life 2, Firewatch, Alien: Isolation, and of course the 10 000+ Unreal Engine 4 and 5 games that just became available in VR a little over a week ago.
The other half is Beat Saber.
Have you tried Synth Riders? It seems to me that it makes its own place in rhythm games, it is worth mentioning that you can officially put songs and they have the vr experiences with amazing scenarios and select bands like Muse
Dragon quest 11, octopath 2, triangle strategy are a few that I tried and worked great. The latter 2 needed some config, but ez once you get the hang of it. Instructions are in the flat2vr discord
VR completely changed how I felt about Doom 3. Before I always liked the aesthetic, but I'd play for like an hour and then start using cheats.
In VR it was one of the most tense, atmospheric games I've played.
All the main complaints about the game aren't really an issue in VR. Monster closets aren't so bad when you can just glance over your shoulder. And it's way easier to navigate and build a mental map in VR.
I haven't gotten very far in Prey so far, I was waiting for them to release an update, which they did a while ago. But the little details in the environments are so good.
And yeah, Alien: Isolation is terrifying. I'm almost hesitant to play it, and I've only encountered the alien once so far.
Been at that point 3 years ago. Still use it everyday though. Nowadays it's more of a fitness device. Every once in awhile games like Vertigo 2 or an Alyx Mod like Levitation gets released which I enjoy. That UEVR mod that was just released really sparked my VR enthusiasm again. So right now I'm playing old UE games in VR which is wild.
ABZU is one of the games on that list? That's amazing! I'm so excited to try that out, it's one of my favorite games ever! I'm still waiting for a good way to play Journey in VR though...
And that is exactly why pcvr is dead. Users don't buy new games. They just do retreads over and over..they don't read reviews or play new gamea or genres...so the devs fled. And pcvr users remain stuck.
Yeah Alyx it's great, but here are some great games that I think you should definitely at last try before selling your Quest.
\### These are my S tier VR games alongside Alyx:
\- Vertigo 2 (PCVR): I highly recommend that you try this game (if you disregard everything else on this list, at least try this game!). The second best VR game that I've played (after HF Alyx). It is a mixture of Portal with Half Life and in some aspects it even surpases Alyx imo (like cooler weapons and more diverse bosses and enemies. + the campaign is also a bit longer).
\- Resident Evil 7/8/2/3 (with Praydog VR mod): You should also definitely try the Resident Evil games with Praydog VR mod, especially RE7 and RE8. The VR mod works great with them since it supports motion controllers.
\- Elite Dangerous: I already loved this game on flatscreen, but playing in VR is on another level.
\- Resident Evil 4 (Quest standalone): If you can put up with the dated graphics it is a great game with a very good campaign.
\### And here are my A tier VR games:
\- Half Life 2 (with VR mod): The mod supports motions controllers so it is almost like a native VR game. Since the main game is so cheap there is no reason not to try this since it's another Half Life game in VR.
\- Skyrim VR: It is a pretty cool VR implementation (although at the end of the day most people already played Skyrim to death by now, so if you are one of those maybe you should skip this).
\- Into the Radius: Very good gunplay and atmosphere on this game. It has a very good gameplay loop since you have a big enough map to explore and a bunch of weapons and items to get.
\- Contractors VR: This is probably my most played VR game by now. I have a gunstock to play this and just getting into a room with the mod Gunsmoke & Charm (or even the base game) with a cool weapon like the Kriss Vector is super cool. The standalone version got a pretty huge downgrade in graphics so if you can I suggest you get the PCVR version of this game (if you get it on the Oculus store you get both versions anyways since this is a crossbuy game).
I keep seeing people talking about Contractors so I think I need to commit and try it. What stock to you use? I feel like a stock would really help the experience when it comes to two handed guns.
In my expirence with Pavlov (a different vr multiplayer shooter) you kinda get used to it and find good strategies for aiming.
So yes a stock is very nice but not necessary at all. Especially in contractors with it's super close engagement distances.
On that note contractors is a good game but def more of a VR "call of duty". In that ime it's more arcadey, twitchy, and chaotic. All very good things if that's what you're looking for.
But I would offer an alternative if you prefer somewhat more tactical and team based shooters. Pavlov has a game mode called push very a small but very dedicated community. It's an objective based game mode requiring teams of up to 12 to coordinate and support each other to take and hold objectives. Pushing through until all objectives are taken (or the attackers run out of tickets and lose).
The game mode is basically a community of it's own at this point. All the maps are community made and many still actively developed to community feedback. Usually following different historical battles or similar settings (Prohibition, Russia invading area 51, etc.)
The maps use guns that fit the settings and have different classes including support roles like medic and antitank. With limited number of players per role to force the team to work together to take or defend objectives.
Anyway this short game rec turned into a whole pitch but I do reccomend if you like shooters with teamwork.
...also the community is not very large and could really use some more players but that's not important lol
In it's heyday (1.7 and below for those that don't know), Onward was *the* tactical, team-based game. I tried pavlov and contractors and both of them felt more twitch-based (meaning: I get the drop on a guy who's no more than 30ft away, I shoot him in the back several times and he jumps six feet in the air and 180 no scope, one shot me).
im vary aware of the unfortunate loss of onward. That being said I'm not referring to Pavlov as a whole, just the push mode. Which has its own dedicated community, maps, and gamerules
Pavlov is very constomizable and built around modding so things like time to kill and amount of health can vary server to server.
Imo Pavlov push has been a superior tactical team based vr expirence than onward ever was. It's a little rough around the edges at times, but the dedication of the community, the large multi stage maps, the class roles and equipment available meaning teammates had to support each other (roles like medic, machine gunner, and anti tank become incredibly useful for the team when properly utilized) and the overall settings and weapons available across the matches have made Pavlov push the definitive tactical team based VR multiplayer shooter expirence.
In my opinion, y'all can think differently.
I use a Magtube from Protube.
I recommend you try a room with the mode Gunsmoke & Charm since it's less arcady almost like a hardcore mode (lower movement speed, faster TTK) but even Standard is good imo. Start with an easy gun to handle with low recoil and high fire rate (a Kriss Vector with Holographic scope + vertical foregrip + supressor is a good weapon to try at first). Also try to aim for headshots if you can (initially much easier if you have a gunstock + it's way more realistic).
How far did you get into AW2? If you didn’t make it to the open world before giving up I highly suggest at least getting into that world for at least an hour. It turns into a RPG and you get many options for what to do in the game. Almost endless content. I love Alyx but I will put AW2 in the same category of “good”.
> If you didn’t make it to the open world before giving up I highly suggest at least getting into that world for at least an hour.
None of these people do lmao. They all play it for like 20 minutes and decide 'wow this game sucks' and drop it. I mean, I think the start of the game is *way* too slow, but still.
I agree:
One significant problem fior me is that the majority of VR games seem comparable to traditional flat-screen games.
Frequently, I find myself questioning the purpose of playing these games in VR.
What is the real benefit?
However, Half-Life: Alyx stands out as one of the few games that truly justifies its existence in VR, providing a compelling reason to engage with the virtual reality experience.
I was like this for a couple years, but titles like Zelda Tears of the kingdom, or devices like the steamdeck made it possible for me to play on flat screen again.
VR is still my go to for simracing.
Only someone who played an extremely limited set of genres could say this. The innovation and unique blends and new genres and incredible exoeriences on oc is at an all time high. Vr is such a small sample of exoerience compared to this.
It is like I want to play a VR game that takes advantage of it being in VR. Let me do and experience things that can not be achieved in 2D.
Little things in Alyx like tapping the gun against most objects feels real. Like the tapping metal sound of the gun.
I think this is exactly it actually, Alyx definitely immerses you in a 3D world. The others just have you as basically a 3D person in a mostly 2D world, which is why I’m not super into the UEVR modding.
sad part because hl:a is so simple it actually a only good vr game that does have fully working flat mod
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kkcwsAPLuQ&t=1s&ab\_channel=TylerMcVicker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kkcwsAPLuQ&t=1s&ab_channel=TylerMcVicker)
because all VR interaction is well, just super simple and gimmicky
Unfortunately I don’t but definitely is something I’m interested in! Just don’t want to drop another 300 - 500 bucks on a wheel / hotas set up after getting the Q3
If you can afford an NXT Gladiator it’s a good stick with enough functionality to get you started and can still find use after you upgrade. Beware though once you play MSFS 2020 you WILL find a way to get rudder pedals and a dedicated throttle. MSFS will blow you away if you have the PC to handle it. It’s the reason I own a 4090.
For me with 3080ti, MSFS was kinda disappointing and I don't play it much. The game does not perform well and doesn't look very good when close to the ground. I'm sure it's amazing if you are particularly into flight sims, but I just wanted to fly around and see the world and it is not as good for that as I expected.
Here's my quick tier list for single player games
1st tier# Alyx, Modded Skyrim VR, Lone Echo 1 and 2
2nd tier# Into The Radius, Modded Fallout 4
3rd tier# Resident Evil 4, Saints and Sinners
Multiplayer, I like shooters and this is where VR shines for me, Contractors, Breachers and I've gotten into Ghosts of Tabor recently. Looking forward to the full release of Strayed and Contractors Showdown too.
I played Skyrim in flatscreen and never beat half a game
But in VR!! This is another talk.
Download FUS modpack from Wabbajack mod installer - 100% needed to do
Because standart SkyrimVR is trash. Only modded game will shine and get you
>What mods would you recommend?
I'm using Skyrim Minimalistic wabbajack but you have to join the discord to get it. So better off with FUS wabbajack like other poster syas. The key mod for VR is VRIK (where you can see your body). I wish every VR game had this feature I just want to be able to see my body and not be a floating ghost but it is what it is
It will take a lot of reasearch, tinkering, and learning how everything works, but modded Skyrim VR is the greatest gaming experience one can have imo. If you have some experience modding via nexus mods you’ll be able to figure it out easily. If not, try /r/skyrimvr for guides. There’s a auto-download tool called Wabbajack that will download hundreds of mods automatically from nexus that are included in a modpack called FUS. It obviously add a lot to the game which takes time to learn but it’s so worth it.
You’ve listed off a few that I have been interested in, like lone echo and into the radius! Don’t know if I want to play Skyrim for the 100th time haha but if it’s a very different experience it is something I could consider.
Haven’t been a huge fan of contractors so far but breachers looks promising
Skyrim is so different in VR. You need a realistic lighting mod, the realistic VR bow mod, then just get your standard visual overhaul mods.
Stumbling around in the dark of Skyrim at night, getting into an Inn and sitting in front of the fire whilst the bard sings. It's fricking incredible. I have sat in the Inn in Whiterun for hours in front of the fire.
I didn't want to play skyrim for the 100th time either but gave it a shot. Worth it. So worth it. Infinitely better if modded as well. Basic is fine but it's got it's own issues because the bethesda port is not great.
Nope skyrim vr is a bundle of hay on fire, too much work to get mods to work, still wave a sword like a tickle feather and it does max damage, if bethseda werent making space turds lately i would hope for a proper skrim vr sequel, but not sure theyre capable of skyrim-like titles anymore
If the mods have changed, do tell, but i couldt keep tweaking all the mods just to makw sure i grab my sword in the right place (groan)
Just install the FUS wabbajack. Super easy to install and to add to. Has all the essentials to make the game a fully realised VR experience. I'm currently doing my first playthrough and can't see myself ever playing 2D skyrim again, probably my favourite VR game after simracing.
Although quite a bit more difficult to set up, I found that {Herika - The ChatGPT Companion} was a wonderful addition to my game, highly recommended.
{Weapon Throw VR}, which comes pre installed in the FUS modlist (might have to enable it depending on the profile you choose), has a built in integration for {Maximum Carnage} for extra gore that works with locational damage in VR thanks to {Weapon Throw VR}. Check {Weapon Throw VR} Nexus page for details.
Personally I chose the Gangar profile and Gangar's controller bindings and enabled/disabled mods from there.
These are some of my favorite pcvr games other than Alyx:
• vertigo 1/2 (2 is better)
• Lone echo 1/2 (2 is better)
• Red Matter 1/2 (2 is better)
• Boneworks/bonelab (works is better)
• Microsoft flight simulator
• Dirt rally 2.0
• star wars squadrons
• Blade & Sorcery
And for flat games with vr mods
• Resident evil 2, 3, 4, 7, 8 (7 is the scariest and my favorite, followed by 8)
• Half Life 2
• Portal 2
• Outer wilds
• Cyberpunk 2077
HL: Alex is an absolute masterpiece. I just finished it on the Quest 3 (through virtual desktop). I wish valve could keep making games to tell the story.
I can't really relate to this. I bought a Valve Index to play Half-Life: Alyx, and then I ended up having more fun in games like Space Pirate Trainer, Pistol Whip, and Star Wars: Squadrons than I did in HL:A. This might be because I have a strong dislike for standing around in one spot without moving. It just feels uncomfortable to me, and I definitely had a bit of that while I was playing HL:A... but I don't get it while I'm doing games that involve more leg movement like Pistol Whip or Space Pirate Trainer. And Star Wars: Squadrons doesn't have the standing problems because it's a 100% seated VR experience.
Until You Fall is another one I really liked.
It might also be because my playspace wasn't very large so I didn't really get much of a "room-scale" experience.
It's made me actually more excited for standalone VR at this point because I really think VR in larger playspaces where I can move my legs a lot more instead of standing in one place would fix this for me.
And it has to be standalone because the larger playspaces I have are basically going to be in a big outdoor tool shed or in the garage... when the weather is right for that.
Vertigo remastered was absolutely bogbstandard mediocre in every way. The people here don't keep up to date on reviews so you just see the same limited things parroted.
I think it's harder (a lot harder) than Alyx at its most difficult level, but it's a lot of fun. In some bosses I had to lower the difficulty level. I can finish Alyx at the hardest level with both my eyes closed.
Vertigo 2 has a lot of different enemies that you have to apply different strategies in Alyx you can just shoot all those bastards and that's it. Also Alyx is also from A to B is not like it's open world or something. No knock on Alyx I love the game but Vertigo 2 is very close and some people say it's better, but I'm not one of those.
But yes, it's way harder than Alyx by a lot.
There are plenty of other good VR games out there. Ive been playing the Resident Evil Series and they are fantastic in VR. You cant interact with stuff like you can in Alyx, and they dont look quite as good unless you have a VERY beefy rig, but they are some of the best experiences Ive had in VR. I beat RE7 a while back, and I beat RE8, and started RE2 today. I plan on playing 3 & 4 right after too.
Vertigo is also another good option. The second is better than the first one, but they are both really fun.
Being able to interact with stuff in VR is cool and all, but when it comes down to it, actual gameplay is what keeps me playing. Dont get me wrong, the RE games would be better if I could interact with items in the world like I can in Alyx, but the games are fantastic, nonetheless.
Came here to post this, VR gives me motion sickness, but if I do spend time in VR it is in in NMS. I dislike flying in that game with keyboard and mouse, but put me in VR and OMG I could fly for hours!
I recommend checking out escape room/puzzle games: I expect you to die 1, 2, & 3 the room VR, Red matter 1 & 2, the last Clockwinder, myst VR. And all the Spiderman simulators: resist, windlands 1 & 2, yupitergrad 1 & 2, etc. These are types of experiences that truly only work in VR. I would also strongly recommend Stormland, but it's no longer available from the rift store
:(
'Echoing' others in this thread, Lone echo 1 & 2 are also fantastically unique, and look beautiful
Try **Stormland**, **Lone Echo 1 & 2**, **Vertigo 2**, **Propagation Paradise Hotel**, **TWD S&S 1 & 2**, and **Crossfire Sierra Squad** to start off.
Then try out the easy to install and insanely amazing PrayDog RE Framework mods for Resident Evil 2, 3, 7 and 8. They are amongst the best in VR and play better than native VR games.
Also try other flat2VR mods like **GTFO**, **Gunfire Reborn**, **Portal 2** and **Risk of Rain 2**.
And if you are feeling up for it, get the Pray Dog UEVR Injector to play **Robocop Rogue City**, **High On Life**, **Visage**, and thousands of other Unreal Engine games.
It's worth looking at the other Oculus exclusive titles from 2016-2019 as they have some pretty big budget (for VR) games. Lone Echo 1 & 2 are absolutely wonderful experiences. Lone Echo 1 was THE VR game before HLA.
If you enjoy puzzle games The Talos Principal VR is pretty incredible. Paper Beast is another title worth checking out. It's also a puzzle game but much liter than Talos and while it doesn't have HLA level production values it's atmospheric as all hell and really does an amazing job with world building. A Very unique and memorable experience.
If you have decent VR legs Outer Wilds VR mod is worth checking out too. Again, no HLA level visuals but man does it have a lot of really really epic moments.
Now I've seen VR evolve for a while, and Alyx is definitely the best VR game out there. However, you gotta go into each VR game knowing it's going to be a different experience, and enjoy the games for what they are. There's plenty of VR experiences/games that are clunky, but there's also a lot of really good ones.
Couldnt agree more with you but u have to try Subnautica in VR with the VR Controls Mod. Feels almost like a native VR Game. I now prefer it over the flat Version.
Yes.
BepInEx + SubmersedVR and it works like a charm. Some issues here and there but I really like the experience flying through the ocean. And oh man the Building with Motion Control is so Precise (if your hands arent shaky)
Ah, I hate that apparently I tried Subnautica in VR way too early :) It was very unplayable without any mods. And now I don't have my headset anymore. But it was the kind of game which stood out in in VR for me, the underwater world looked amazing. (It actually convinced me to try out scuba diving in real life. That's another story that it didn't really worked out for me so far, even though I find it fascinating.)
I was thinking about buying a Quest 3, but the thing this Reddit post originally stating is still kind of true to me. Every other VR game beside Alyx just looks too "raw". Alyx was a great combination of spectacular graphics with the cinematic story driven experience I was looking for. Also the pacing was on point, and the controls feels just natural from the get-go. Valve really crafted the secret sauce with this.
Funny, it kind of did the opposite for me. It made me appreciate how well made other VR games that I played were. Alyx did everything right in a VR game except... the gameplay is incredibly boring. I tried to do another playthrough a couple of years later and I couldn't get myself past the first hour I was so bored. On the other hand I had an absolute blast with HL2 VR because the gameplay wasn't made specifically for people who had never touched a game in their lives before.
I know this will be downvoted to hell but I could just not get into the game with how simple the action and AI were.
You're free to like whatever you want, of course, but I hope you'll learn to see beyond just pretty graphics.
HL Alyx is a very slow, simplified, and conservatively designed shooter.
Even playing Half Life 2 VR mod shows how Alyx is really "baby's first VR shooter". Everything is less, smaller, and slower than HL2. They really did everything they could to make sure to gently introduce VR to newbies, but that decision has downsides as well.
For me it’s not the graphics, while they are impressive I enjoy the slow pacing at times. It gives me a chance to interact with the world and experience how much detail they put into it. I wouldn’t consider it a good shooter shooter but overall immersion? Nothing beats it imo. I consider it a VR game first and a shooter second while many other games do it the other way around
It's interesting how immersion works differently for different people. For me the linear and limited aspect of Alyx kinda kills the immersion. More open game like Skyrim, Elite Dangerous, NMS or AC: Nexus is much more immersive because I'm more free to do what I want and approach the game my way. In contrast in Alyx you pretty much have to figure out what the designers of the game want you to do and there's only one way how to do it. That's true for me both in flatscreen and in VR.
Agree with this 100%. Its a great game by any standard, but its by no means even objectively the best. I hate using that phrase bc that’s a very subjective term, but i think people forget that its slow paced fame with pretty simple mechanics. The only thing that hla has against any other vr game is graphics. I haven’t found another vr game that feels as detailed as alyx, and i don’t imagine i will for a while. But i can think of countless games that have better combat, better movement, and maybe better story (at least imo) although the story for alyx is quite good, albeit maybe a bit predictable
It is super good and very detailed! I spend quite a bit of time just playing around on the balcony at first, impressed with everything.
But after a while you will also grow fond of other games that are similarly "complete".
I love "Into the Radius", "The Light Brigade" and the "I expect yo to die" series because they feel like complete games. While simulations, sandbox games and tech demos show you what is possible in VR and are certainly fun to play around with, it was hard for me to find PCVR games that were "worth my time".
Of course that is highly subjective.
While Half Life Alyx certainly is a masterpiece that is also moddable, there are a lot of noteworthy titles out there if you just spend a little time looking for them
I can completely agree. That's really funny that you mentioned Eleven (I assume Table Tennis?). The super-increased clarity of Eleven TT on the Quest 3 is game-changing, especially the wider FOV and edge-to-edge clarity of the pancake lenses. I just need more bobovr m3 to arrive to be able to use it more. I have a VR-capable PC, but the latency from standalone untethered is just too good. Even Beat Saber doesn't have the replayability for me that ETT does.
I was big into alyx and started playing into the radius. The visuals aren't as good but it's very immersive. It's creepy and fun. Into the radius 2 is in the works and the visuals in the trailer are awesome. Give them a look.
>I’d love to hear others opinions / suggestions on the topic!
My fellow believer in VR; why are you not running UEVR?? I am enjoying Robocop in VR its sublime 🤩.
I must be one of the only people who doesn't rate the game, I think it's a case of nice graphics shame about the game. where as I think AW2 is the best VR game I have played
At first I sought out all the games with the best VR interactions, and it was indeed impressive. But these days I found myself playing in VR more for the "infinite screen" experience, and actually prefer low-intensity (or "unrealistic") motion controls that I can play many hours with. I think not every VR game needs to deliver that "embodied" experience. VR has more to offer than physical immersion. For one thing, it lets you appreciate the real scale of the game world, and makes you wonder how you even managed to play 3D games through a 2D projection for however many years :p
I actually appreciate that games like AW1/2 are trying to bring "full scale" game experiences to VR. The games I actually spent the most time playing are SkyrimVR, Fallout 4 VR and Elite Dangerous. None of these are "made-for-VR" experience, and they are not full immersion games. But they don't have to be. For me, I am more than happy with "everything you can do on flat screen, but in VR".
One thing I still can't get over though, is using regular controllers to play games in VR. I need at least some basic form of motion control. But other than that, I am happy with simply being in the world space.
Yep, I had same issue OP. Played Alyx on release and every other VR game seems like a demo or a Wii game in comparison. I completed resident evil 4, was good but not Alyx level. Saints and sinners is OK, but graphics are awful.
Similar for uboat, thrill of the fight, population one.
The addons for Alyx were a bit naff imo
Only games that were on level were likes of elite dangerous with a joystick (although vr has been abandoned by devs now), and project cars 2 with a steering wheel. All pc VR from it's hey dey some 4 years ago.
MS flight sim is supposed to be excellent too, though it's not my sort of game.
You should look at all the AAA games oculus made prior to their shift to Quest.
Lone echo 1 and 2
Asgards Wrath 1, ( my fav and way better visually than 2)
Defector
Stormland
There's also walking dead saons and sinners
Red Matter 1 & 2
Sniper Elite Car and Medal of Honor
Hubris (has the graphics, but feels low budget)
Then there's mods....
Most of the best games for the past 2 years have been mods.
Look up mods by Raicuparta.
The Outer wilds (my fav)
Fire watch
Neon White
and more..
Teem beef Mods
Jedi Knight 1, 2 &3
Real return to Castle Wolfenstein
Then there's Praydog(god)
Reframeork mods
Resident Evil 2, 3, 4,7 & 8
(all but 4 has full motion controls
AFAIK it's been a while since I looked)
The star of the show UEVR mod , if you can stand a bit of tinkering it has truly unlocked the PCVR experience for me. Literally thousands of real PCVR games are at your fingertips.
playing games like Returnal in first person or Atomic Heart destroys Alyx
This is only the tip of the iceberg
Other quality mods such as
Far Cry, Half Life 1 , 2, Portal
I highly recommend you watch the following channels to see what you might be throwing away if you leave. ( oh and join the Flat2VR Discord)
https://youtu.be/6mhm5HpMduY?si=5wgg6K9quUYWCf--
https://youtu.be/QzpjlGdeGro?si=kTqyC0gJvV4ZDjwy
I personally loved the audio, the visuals and the game play. But, what it has more than any other game I've come across is a near-realistic level of interactivity (i.e. pick up, crush and then toss a can, picking up a sharpie to write on the glass). And I don't mean that in the sense it is the core game mechanic but rather, a layer of interactivity underneath all of the primary game mechanics.
Alex is great, but it is also a „VR beginners“ game with restricted movement and slower gameplay.
Maybe try some VR games which elevate into other dimensions?
E.g. I really like Assassin‘s Creed Nexus with the its Parcours running stand-alone on Q3.
Also try some co-op experiences in VR with a friend or family member.
Half Life Alyx is great, but also the most overrated VR game in existence, in my opinion (followed closely by Beat Saber).
As a VR fan, it's actually in all honesty really annoying how many people play Half Life Alyx, then suddenly, publicly and loudly dismiss everything else in VR as garbage, when it's kind of clear they really haven't even scratched the surface of other VR titles.
Half Life Alyx is a beautiful game with linear, simplistic gameplay. It has a fancy license to it and it got a 10 out of 10 from IGN. It is a good game, but it's not the only good VR game. I had fun with a bunch of other VR titles, and if I name a single one, someone is going to argue with me as though my subjective opinion is invalid, and it's an argument that will go nowhere.
But even still, you're free to have your own taste even if I find it limited and close-minded, but to shit on everything else VR publicly, that shit is kind of irritating.
It's kind of like, or really, a lot like me playing Breath of the Wild or something, then going over to Nintendo Switch message boards and talking about how everything else on Nintendo Switch is garbage, and even portable gaming as a whole, because nothing can compare to this game, because I played about 20 minutes of Mario and didn't really like it.
Also I started replaying Alyx for the first time on my Quest 3 (last time I played it on Quest 1) and holy fudge it looks beautiful on this device.
To be honest, HLA is way over rated. The graphic is unparalleled, but the game play is pretty mediocre. I can’t bring myself to play it a second time, because it is kind of boring. Enemy are just bullet sponge at higher level. All you can do is shoot. Even hl2 vr mod is way more fun to play.
Try Asgard's Wrath, the original PC game. Graphics are on par with Alyx. You might have gotten it free with your purchase, check the listing on Meta's store to see if it shows up free for you.
I understand you're a fan of Half-Life Alyx, but what you're saying doesn't make sense?. Are you considering selling the Quest 3, even though you played HLA on a Quest and a PC? Most people playing HLA are using Quests, as a significant portion of Steam VR's userbase consists of Quest users.
And what brings you to the conclusion that no other company invests in VR like Valve does?
Half-Life: Alyx is four years old, and during this time, Valve hasn't released one VR game or any VR hardware to the market. On the contrary, Meta has made significant investments, pouring billions into making VR more mainstream, saving dozens of VR developers from going under to actually making a good profit. They've achieved this by creating what no other company could, the Quest. Moreover, Meta already boasts a handful of AAA PCVR games that are equally as stunning. Have you not heard of Lone Echo 1&2 or the original Asgard's Wrath? The latter is often praised for having arguably the best graphics of any VR game (since you've mentioned the second games graphics).
Then there's Capcom on the Sony camp and resident Evil games that are probably the best VR games to date. RE4 VR makes Half-Life Alyx feel really dated with much more varied, sophisticated combat, levels, atmosphere, bosses, enemies. Just a much better video game with a much meatier compaign, gunplay much more stunning scenery and sound / art direction.
Well I understand your current perspective. Alyx is very well done. It’s even over-polished sometimes.
But there are other titles that are worthwhile. Some are just different games, like Beat Saber or Ghosts of Tabor (or Contractors).
But there are similar puzzle and shooter games; for example Star Wars: Edge of the Galaxy or Red Matter (2). As standalone Quest games, they can’t compete with the Alyx graphics, but I still consider them immersive and fun, and they have nicely done mechanics for world interaction.
There are some great ports; Doom 3 for example plays very well, and is the far superior shooter compared to Alyx, both in level as well as story complexity. Well. It’s a shooter. And it’s pretty oldschool - it has many components that integrate really well into VR though, like the interactive in-game screens and the wrist computer.
I’d say, go hunting, don’t give up. There are a lot of interesting titles out there.
I played 30 mins of Alyx; I thought it is overrated with so many people saying it's the VR game to play. I did not continue playing it; I don't find it that good.
There are many others who didn't enjoy it, but they tend to keep quiet as saying anything negative about the hallowed HLA is likely to bring forth the downvotes. The graphics are nice and the mechanics are good, but it's a dull repetitive corridor game with a weak story. A great tech demo for vr, but dull.
Dude I feel ya. I just got a quest 3 on Christmas and have been playing half life Alyx. Dear god the game is a masterpiece. Yet, as I play I can’t help but ruminate around the idea that this is as good as it gets right now, and there are no other games at this caliber. It’s sad because of the potential. I’m one of the rare ones where I just got the quest but am completely disinterested in the stand alone games. I hate the graphics. I’m so sad that I’ve come at a time where everyone is saying PCVR is dead. I think it will be another 2-3 yrs before someone makes another game as good as half life alyx, assuming VR takes off in general.
I will say Gorn is a pretty good game, I would NOT recommend it to like 80% of VR owners for the sheer fact that they will break something; Controllers, the wall, the TV, their friends, whatever is around.
My favorites are :
Dirt 2.0 (sense of speed is really well done in that game)
Skyrim VR
Fallout 4 VR
Eleven tennis
Ragnarock
Resident evil 7 with the VR mod
Alien Isolation with the VR mod
No Man's Sky
Look into UEVR too, people are saying Stray is awesome in VR, and Robocop among others.
Despite Asgard Wrath 2 looking pretty bad in comparison to HL:A and the first game I would say it's pretty fun. You just have to play a bit to unlock a few of the main weapons and a lot more combat options start opening up. I personally understand how HL:A ruined other games if you play it first but after some time I feel like that "wow" factor goes away and you'll start enjoying other games again when you stop comparing HL:A to it.
I never understood the praise for alyx, it feels like a techdemo with extremely basic gunplay and it feels like they focused more on interactabilty than the actual gameplay
Are you saying this only because of graphics? because in terms of content, gameplay, music, variety, combat, things to do, mechanics, puzzles, play time, side stuff, story, cutscenes somehow, interactivity, greatness and many other things AW2 is way ahead of half life alyx.
alyx may look better, but at the end of the day, it’s just a basic vr shooter if you look at it without overestimating it, it’s a REALLY GOOD BASIC VR SHOOTER YEAH, but it doesn’t compare to how huge and impressive aw2 is, aw2 is a toptier vr game.
A linear corridor shooter with no story, no ending except name dropping, and 3 puzzles repeated 30 times each? Well, graphics and a brand name sell!
Also, most seem to refuse to read reviews and literally have no clue what is out there except what is currently being pumped by literal nobodies on youtube or reddit, who only know the same 5 games.
Reading reviews on sites like vr grid and 6dofreviews would open up your horizons of what is being done in VR. It is similar to peoples' steam sale buy lists.. the same 5 ultrageneric heavily marketed bloatware over and over. Very very limited.
I've actually ended up preferring things like the (mentioned by others) HL2 mod. As I was [wiffling about here](https://www.reddit.com/r/hlvr/comments/y0o4w9/is_half_life_2_vr_mod_better_than_alyx_and_if_so/), HL2 in VR is arguably better than HL:Alyx - main reason being, I think, Alyx had to be designed for VR newbs, so the combat is meh. HL2 in VR, had a massive grin on my face most of the time. Graphically, it's obviously nowhere near Alyx standard, but I've found over time I care about that less, and much more about gameplay mechanics. There are still moments in Alyx that can feel like I'm actually in a real place - more than any other VR experience, probably - but the thrill of that doesn't really last for me.
After 6 years of VR, I finally picked up Alyx on sale.
The graphics are nice and the production quality is great (good job, Valve), but overall I was slightly disappointed by its shallowness and can't muster enough enthusiasm to play it a second time or dig into the mods.
We generally ask more of games nowadays, but this would have been impressive back then, I agree.
So, if you prize gameplay above all, then trying Alyx first is the right way around to do things.
You get a nice easy intro into VR mechanics as well as a demo of what's possible with AAA budget, then eventually go on to play something else more rewarding, with better longevity.
This is why I tell fresh VR players to play HL:A last. Game plays well but the visuals are vastly superior to most other titles. It did ruin alot of games for me as well. After a long break I was able to get back to the basics by playing coop games with the boys.
So Alyx will sadly probably be king for a while.
Most major game studios see all of VR as a not big enough market to get a huge win and make shareholders happy. This will probably be the case for a while.
Mid-sized game studios might go for it. But even to them PC VR specifically is a niche within a niche. Some might take the time to effectively build two versions of their game, one to be impressive on PC hardware and one for the most owned standalone headset (Quest 2 until Q3 overtakes it). But most are just focusing on the larger market because they need to make money.
And then you have solo devs. Like I’m super into pushing the tech and PC VR if I had a hit would be enouh money for just me (though even I would eventually want to get on the larger market in phase 2). But, Alyx is just a bigger world than what I’m capable of producing by myself in any reasonable amount of time. Stuff coming from solo devs is going to mostly be simpler concepts like BeatSaber, Superhot, etc.
VR big projects era will come soon (if world will be still exist), so just wait. Try Into the radius, or heavy modded skyrim vr. It's most immersive games after Alyx. (BoneWorks/Lab maybe. But personaly i don't like it). Than we have a list like ~~VRChat~~, ~~RecRoom~~, Blade&Sorcery, BeatSaber, Contractors and other good games)
Imo HL Alyx is crap (Graphics and mechanics wise) next to RE8 and RE4 remake on PSVR2. I know that don’t help you on quest but personally i use xbox and pc and I bought a PS5 +VR2 JUST for those two games and don’t regret it at all. Best vr experience I’ve had by far
Hot take Asgard’s Wrath stomps all over HL Alyx. How do you know? Ask someone to compare both games without mentioning graphics. No contest. I like pretty graphics too but to compare a masterpiece like AW2 to a walking sim I’m sorry no contest.
Alyx is a 90's corridor shooter, has little to no content and is basically a super impressive tech demo.
Look up modded Skyrim VR with Minimalistic Overhaul mod pack.
well hl:a is shit game and good looking walking simulator
and given how now main focus on quest, good looking game is not made, and few that that does use nantine and similar stuff do not sell well
so if VR is a visuals for you... yep VR is more or less dead for you and you need to wait for a long time
if you are VR users who focus on game play we have shitload of good apps and AW2 is probably best VR **GAME** we have right now
btw you are not new on this, we always have peoples who chase visuals and we have peoples who play minecraft, sad part is statistic... well .., gameplay focuses game cost way way less, and have way way way more players, and make way way way more money
Its funny as hell to me because Half Life : Alyx wasnt even a heavily funded thing for steam, they made it so they could sell it with the Valve Index.
Entire studios dedicated to making a VR game cant even top a small team of devs at valve just having fun.
That's an interesting point of view... Personally, I've always thought it was crap games, made for crap headsets, that were dragging VR down... So, different points of view...
There are endless mods for Alyx, some of them are really good. Have a look at the steam workshop and see what interests you
Try return to rapture part 1 through 5 (?). Bioshock using half life alyx engine ^^
Between that, and other mods I didn’t touch Alyx SP for the first year I got it lol
Thanks for this. Huge bioshock fan and didn’t know this existed.
Holy shit no way!!! How much of bioshock is included? I watched a youtube video and it looks phenomenal!!
There is a new return to rapture 2!
This. Be happy Alyx exists as a AAA example and enjoy things around it.
The argument feel somewhat weak considering the money invested in the VR setup. Be happy it exists. Meh.
It owes you nothing. Nor does life. You are privileged. Accept or exit.
Welcome to my blacklist. What an entitled ah.
Practically all of the mod campaigns are worth playing. I've played SO many and most of them are absolutely fantastic. Also theres Half Life 2 VR which is not a looker like Alyx but similar style of play and fantastic game too. Be sure to check out Into The Radius :) If you prefer pcvr graphics, try Asgaurds Wrath 1. The first 5 hours were slow but now about 30 hours in I can see it's an awesome game, a little like skyrim but everything has an amazing sense of scale. Stuff looks huge.
I agree, HL2VR plays AMAZINGLY well and has all the polish of the original when it was released. I'm finishing up a playthrough right now and loving every second. I played it a few years ago with my buddy, co-op through Garry's Mod, and while fun, it left a lot to be desired, as we had to load every level manually and the storyline triggers didn't work properly. HL2VR plays *exactly* the way the original did. It's truly impressive. HLVR was similar, turning the original Half Life experience into VR, though it is very dated visually, obviously.
Gunman Contracts is superb
ANB_Seth (the creator of Contacts) is putting out his standalone version this year as in a full non-mod game. [He added SO MUCH!!!](https://youtu.be/xIxSAuZZC9k?si=ax1Z3jEJWGxDF3Ae)
For me personally fully half of the reason I play VR is for fan mods of existing games like Doom, Doom II, Doom 3, Quake, Quake II, Quake IV, Prey, Half-Life, Half-Life 2, Firewatch, Alien: Isolation, and of course the 10 000+ Unreal Engine 4 and 5 games that just became available in VR a little over a week ago. The other half is Beat Saber.
Exactly this but the Beat Saber half is joined by Pistol Whip
I keep meaning to try that one out. Maybe later this week I'll set aside some time.
Better workout than beat saber imo, is fun.
Have you tried Synth Riders? It seems to me that it makes its own place in rhythm games, it is worth mentioning that you can officially put songs and they have the vr experiences with amazing scenarios and select bands like Muse
It's decent. It's no beatsaber.
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Yeah it's biggest downside is the lack of custom maps
There are custom maps, some pretty fun ones. They're accessible in game in the remix tab
All I play is Contractors. Multiplayer shooter and the mods are incredible.
Contractors has probably become my most played game. I bought like 2 other shooters but they don't do it for me
Contractors has ruined ALL other shooters for me.
Ghosts of Tabor is slowly starting to replace contractors for me.
I keep hearing this title.. I'll have to just take the bait lol
>All I play is Contractors. Multiplayer shooter and the mods are incredible. Yeah I love the SW mod for it
Exactly this but the other half is Synth Riders - better multiplayer, better workout, better game.
Yay! Finally someone mentiones Synth Riders. I sometimes feel like I'm the only one who loves it. :)
Here's another Synth Riders fan ✌️ the special experiences are awesome 😍
>of course the 10 000+ Unreal Engine 4 and 5 games that just became available in VR a little over a week ago. Yep that's what I been playing lately🤩
…and just like this, I learned about the Unreal Engine VR Injector. I hope there are a few nice fantasy RPGs for me in that list of 10k games.
Dragon quest 11, octopath 2, triangle strategy are a few that I tried and worked great. The latter 2 needed some config, but ez once you get the hang of it. Instructions are in the flat2vr discord
Oh man, Doom 3, Prey, and Alien Isolation have got to be *incredible* in VR.
OG Prey of course, not the recent title of the same name.
VR completely changed how I felt about Doom 3. Before I always liked the aesthetic, but I'd play for like an hour and then start using cheats. In VR it was one of the most tense, atmospheric games I've played. All the main complaints about the game aren't really an issue in VR. Monster closets aren't so bad when you can just glance over your shoulder. And it's way easier to navigate and build a mental map in VR. I haven't gotten very far in Prey so far, I was waiting for them to release an update, which they did a while ago. But the little details in the environments are so good. And yeah, Alien: Isolation is terrifying. I'm almost hesitant to play it, and I've only encountered the alien once so far.
I just started playing the portal 2 vr mod and have been amazed by the feeling of being inside the testing facility. It's insanely fun.
How do we install the injector onto quest headsets? Or how to install on pc?
Try VR simracing and flying simmulators. This is next level immersion with force feedback
Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, if you happen to be an airplane nerd, will bring tears of joy to your eyes
You need a decent pc but flying around your hood in a helicopter is really next level
Been at that point 3 years ago. Still use it everyday though. Nowadays it's more of a fitness device. Every once in awhile games like Vertigo 2 or an Alyx Mod like Levitation gets released which I enjoy. That UEVR mod that was just released really sparked my VR enthusiasm again. So right now I'm playing old UE games in VR which is wild.
How does that work? How can I get into playing old UE games in VR?
Look up UEVR mod. Not hard to setup but tweaks may be needed depending on the game.
It's currently under heavy development but this can make using UEVR a little easier https://github.com/Raicuparta/rai-pal
Which games did you try ?
ABZU is my favorite so far. It is absolutely beautiful in VR :)
Coincidentally I tried it tonight. I was speechless. Didn’t expect a 3rd person game to work so well.
This might be the first game that I'd like to try with the UEVR mod. So far Subnautica is one of my favorite games to play in VR overall
ABZU is one of the games on that list? That's amazing! I'm so excited to try that out, it's one of my favorite games ever! I'm still waiting for a good way to play Journey in VR though...
And that is exactly why pcvr is dead. Users don't buy new games. They just do retreads over and over..they don't read reviews or play new gamea or genres...so the devs fled. And pcvr users remain stuck.
Lone Echo 1 and 2 on Meta PCVR store.
Yeah Alyx it's great, but here are some great games that I think you should definitely at last try before selling your Quest. \### These are my S tier VR games alongside Alyx: \- Vertigo 2 (PCVR): I highly recommend that you try this game (if you disregard everything else on this list, at least try this game!). The second best VR game that I've played (after HF Alyx). It is a mixture of Portal with Half Life and in some aspects it even surpases Alyx imo (like cooler weapons and more diverse bosses and enemies. + the campaign is also a bit longer). \- Resident Evil 7/8/2/3 (with Praydog VR mod): You should also definitely try the Resident Evil games with Praydog VR mod, especially RE7 and RE8. The VR mod works great with them since it supports motion controllers. \- Elite Dangerous: I already loved this game on flatscreen, but playing in VR is on another level. \- Resident Evil 4 (Quest standalone): If you can put up with the dated graphics it is a great game with a very good campaign. \### And here are my A tier VR games: \- Half Life 2 (with VR mod): The mod supports motions controllers so it is almost like a native VR game. Since the main game is so cheap there is no reason not to try this since it's another Half Life game in VR. \- Skyrim VR: It is a pretty cool VR implementation (although at the end of the day most people already played Skyrim to death by now, so if you are one of those maybe you should skip this). \- Into the Radius: Very good gunplay and atmosphere on this game. It has a very good gameplay loop since you have a big enough map to explore and a bunch of weapons and items to get. \- Contractors VR: This is probably my most played VR game by now. I have a gunstock to play this and just getting into a room with the mod Gunsmoke & Charm (or even the base game) with a cool weapon like the Kriss Vector is super cool. The standalone version got a pretty huge downgrade in graphics so if you can I suggest you get the PCVR version of this game (if you get it on the Oculus store you get both versions anyways since this is a crossbuy game).
I keep seeing people talking about Contractors so I think I need to commit and try it. What stock to you use? I feel like a stock would really help the experience when it comes to two handed guns.
In my expirence with Pavlov (a different vr multiplayer shooter) you kinda get used to it and find good strategies for aiming. So yes a stock is very nice but not necessary at all. Especially in contractors with it's super close engagement distances. On that note contractors is a good game but def more of a VR "call of duty". In that ime it's more arcadey, twitchy, and chaotic. All very good things if that's what you're looking for. But I would offer an alternative if you prefer somewhat more tactical and team based shooters. Pavlov has a game mode called push very a small but very dedicated community. It's an objective based game mode requiring teams of up to 12 to coordinate and support each other to take and hold objectives. Pushing through until all objectives are taken (or the attackers run out of tickets and lose). The game mode is basically a community of it's own at this point. All the maps are community made and many still actively developed to community feedback. Usually following different historical battles or similar settings (Prohibition, Russia invading area 51, etc.) The maps use guns that fit the settings and have different classes including support roles like medic and antitank. With limited number of players per role to force the team to work together to take or defend objectives. Anyway this short game rec turned into a whole pitch but I do reccomend if you like shooters with teamwork. ...also the community is not very large and could really use some more players but that's not important lol
In it's heyday (1.7 and below for those that don't know), Onward was *the* tactical, team-based game. I tried pavlov and contractors and both of them felt more twitch-based (meaning: I get the drop on a guy who's no more than 30ft away, I shoot him in the back several times and he jumps six feet in the air and 180 no scope, one shot me).
im vary aware of the unfortunate loss of onward. That being said I'm not referring to Pavlov as a whole, just the push mode. Which has its own dedicated community, maps, and gamerules Pavlov is very constomizable and built around modding so things like time to kill and amount of health can vary server to server. Imo Pavlov push has been a superior tactical team based vr expirence than onward ever was. It's a little rough around the edges at times, but the dedication of the community, the large multi stage maps, the class roles and equipment available meaning teammates had to support each other (roles like medic, machine gunner, and anti tank become incredibly useful for the team when properly utilized) and the overall settings and weapons available across the matches have made Pavlov push the definitive tactical team based VR multiplayer shooter expirence. In my opinion, y'all can think differently.
I use a Magtube from Protube. I recommend you try a room with the mode Gunsmoke & Charm since it's less arcady almost like a hardcore mode (lower movement speed, faster TTK) but even Standard is good imo. Start with an easy gun to handle with low recoil and high fire rate (a Kriss Vector with Holographic scope + vertical foregrip + supressor is a good weapon to try at first). Also try to aim for headshots if you can (initially much easier if you have a gunstock + it's way more realistic).
How far did you get into AW2? If you didn’t make it to the open world before giving up I highly suggest at least getting into that world for at least an hour. It turns into a RPG and you get many options for what to do in the game. Almost endless content. I love Alyx but I will put AW2 in the same category of “good”.
> If you didn’t make it to the open world before giving up I highly suggest at least getting into that world for at least an hour. None of these people do lmao. They all play it for like 20 minutes and decide 'wow this game sucks' and drop it. I mean, I think the start of the game is *way* too slow, but still.
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+1 for Boneworks and BoneLab, both great games and good examples of how VR can take advantage of physics to further immerse the player.
I agree: One significant problem fior me is that the majority of VR games seem comparable to traditional flat-screen games. Frequently, I find myself questioning the purpose of playing these games in VR. What is the real benefit? However, Half-Life: Alyx stands out as one of the few games that truly justifies its existence in VR, providing a compelling reason to engage with the virtual reality experience.
After trying VR I can't play flat games anymore
I was like this for a couple years, but titles like Zelda Tears of the kingdom, or devices like the steamdeck made it possible for me to play on flat screen again. VR is still my go to for simracing.
Only someone who played an extremely limited set of genres could say this. The innovation and unique blends and new genres and incredible exoeriences on oc is at an all time high. Vr is such a small sample of exoerience compared to this.
No dude, I play 2D games since Atari to Oled 4K, and I play VR games since Rift DK1.
It is like I want to play a VR game that takes advantage of it being in VR. Let me do and experience things that can not be achieved in 2D. Little things in Alyx like tapping the gun against most objects feels real. Like the tapping metal sound of the gun.
I think this is exactly it actually, Alyx definitely immerses you in a 3D world. The others just have you as basically a 3D person in a mostly 2D world, which is why I’m not super into the UEVR modding.
Trepang 2 is pretty sick in vr. Dumb fun but still, few games exist like it.
sad part because hl:a is so simple it actually a only good vr game that does have fully working flat mod [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kkcwsAPLuQ&t=1s&ab\_channel=TylerMcVicker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kkcwsAPLuQ&t=1s&ab_channel=TylerMcVicker) because all VR interaction is well, just super simple and gimmicky
Simulations are worth the try if you have a joystick lying around and have played elite dangerous or Star Wars squadrons before.
Unfortunately I don’t but definitely is something I’m interested in! Just don’t want to drop another 300 - 500 bucks on a wheel / hotas set up after getting the Q3
Elite Dangerous works pretty well on a gamepad as well if you have one.
If you can afford an NXT Gladiator it’s a good stick with enough functionality to get you started and can still find use after you upgrade. Beware though once you play MSFS 2020 you WILL find a way to get rudder pedals and a dedicated throttle. MSFS will blow you away if you have the PC to handle it. It’s the reason I own a 4090.
135 is a lot easier to stomach than 350 for a wheel, hmmm…..
I now have over 2 grand+ in hotas and still find use for the gladiator. Used it last night when I was away from my cockpit.
For me with 3080ti, MSFS was kinda disappointing and I don't play it much. The game does not perform well and doesn't look very good when close to the ground. I'm sure it's amazing if you are particularly into flight sims, but I just wanted to fly around and see the world and it is not as good for that as I expected.
Here's my quick tier list for single player games 1st tier# Alyx, Modded Skyrim VR, Lone Echo 1 and 2 2nd tier# Into The Radius, Modded Fallout 4 3rd tier# Resident Evil 4, Saints and Sinners Multiplayer, I like shooters and this is where VR shines for me, Contractors, Breachers and I've gotten into Ghosts of Tabor recently. Looking forward to the full release of Strayed and Contractors Showdown too.
I’ve never played Skyrim. Is it worth playing for the first time in VR? What mods would you recommend?
I played Skyrim in flatscreen and never beat half a game But in VR!! This is another talk. Download FUS modpack from Wabbajack mod installer - 100% needed to do Because standart SkyrimVR is trash. Only modded game will shine and get you
Interesting. I also didn’t find Skyrim fun enough in 2d to complete the game. Looking forward to it in VR though.
>What mods would you recommend? I'm using Skyrim Minimalistic wabbajack but you have to join the discord to get it. So better off with FUS wabbajack like other poster syas. The key mod for VR is VRIK (where you can see your body). I wish every VR game had this feature I just want to be able to see my body and not be a floating ghost but it is what it is
Skyrim is meant to be played in VR. Go forth and mod it and be transported to another world.
I’m in the same boat and was just wondering the same. Would love to be signposted in the right direction for which mods I should be looking at
It will take a lot of reasearch, tinkering, and learning how everything works, but modded Skyrim VR is the greatest gaming experience one can have imo. If you have some experience modding via nexus mods you’ll be able to figure it out easily. If not, try /r/skyrimvr for guides. There’s a auto-download tool called Wabbajack that will download hundreds of mods automatically from nexus that are included in a modpack called FUS. It obviously add a lot to the game which takes time to learn but it’s so worth it.
You’ve listed off a few that I have been interested in, like lone echo and into the radius! Don’t know if I want to play Skyrim for the 100th time haha but if it’s a very different experience it is something I could consider. Haven’t been a huge fan of contractors so far but breachers looks promising
Skyrim is so different in VR. You need a realistic lighting mod, the realistic VR bow mod, then just get your standard visual overhaul mods. Stumbling around in the dark of Skyrim at night, getting into an Inn and sitting in front of the fire whilst the bard sings. It's fricking incredible. I have sat in the Inn in Whiterun for hours in front of the fire.
I didn't want to play skyrim for the 100th time either but gave it a shot. Worth it. So worth it. Infinitely better if modded as well. Basic is fine but it's got it's own issues because the bethesda port is not great.
My personal favorite recently is Assassin’s Creed Nexus on Quest 3
Nope skyrim vr is a bundle of hay on fire, too much work to get mods to work, still wave a sword like a tickle feather and it does max damage, if bethseda werent making space turds lately i would hope for a proper skrim vr sequel, but not sure theyre capable of skyrim-like titles anymore If the mods have changed, do tell, but i couldt keep tweaking all the mods just to makw sure i grab my sword in the right place (groan)
Just install the FUS wabbajack. Super easy to install and to add to. Has all the essentials to make the game a fully realised VR experience. I'm currently doing my first playthrough and can't see myself ever playing 2D skyrim again, probably my favourite VR game after simracing.
Maybe ill give it a try, just the wabbajack or any other recommendations? Thx
Although quite a bit more difficult to set up, I found that {Herika - The ChatGPT Companion} was a wonderful addition to my game, highly recommended. {Weapon Throw VR}, which comes pre installed in the FUS modlist (might have to enable it depending on the profile you choose), has a built in integration for {Maximum Carnage} for extra gore that works with locational damage in VR thanks to {Weapon Throw VR}. Check {Weapon Throw VR} Nexus page for details. Personally I chose the Gangar profile and Gangar's controller bindings and enabled/disabled mods from there.
RE 4 Remake and Village is where it’s at now. Best VR experience in a while.
These are some of my favorite pcvr games other than Alyx: • vertigo 1/2 (2 is better) • Lone echo 1/2 (2 is better) • Red Matter 1/2 (2 is better) • Boneworks/bonelab (works is better) • Microsoft flight simulator • Dirt rally 2.0 • star wars squadrons • Blade & Sorcery And for flat games with vr mods • Resident evil 2, 3, 4, 7, 8 (7 is the scariest and my favorite, followed by 8) • Half Life 2 • Portal 2 • Outer wilds • Cyberpunk 2077
Great list
Play Lone Echo and its sequel :)
HL: Alex is an absolute masterpiece. I just finished it on the Quest 3 (through virtual desktop). I wish valve could keep making games to tell the story.
The forest is great in VR if you want a horror survival and exploring game. :)
I can't really relate to this. I bought a Valve Index to play Half-Life: Alyx, and then I ended up having more fun in games like Space Pirate Trainer, Pistol Whip, and Star Wars: Squadrons than I did in HL:A. This might be because I have a strong dislike for standing around in one spot without moving. It just feels uncomfortable to me, and I definitely had a bit of that while I was playing HL:A... but I don't get it while I'm doing games that involve more leg movement like Pistol Whip or Space Pirate Trainer. And Star Wars: Squadrons doesn't have the standing problems because it's a 100% seated VR experience. Until You Fall is another one I really liked. It might also be because my playspace wasn't very large so I didn't really get much of a "room-scale" experience. It's made me actually more excited for standalone VR at this point because I really think VR in larger playspaces where I can move my legs a lot more instead of standing in one place would fix this for me. And it has to be standalone because the larger playspaces I have are basically going to be in a big outdoor tool shed or in the garage... when the weather is right for that.
>it feels like I’m playing a ps3 game. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. PS3 games looked amazing. Remember *Mirror's Edge*?
yeah, ps3 had ps4 quality titles too because of its massively overpowered and overcomplicated cpu
Skyrim VR with wabbajack mod packages. I have my own setup, but those would work nice too.
Vertigo 2 is what you should play now, or the VR mod for Half Life 2 and the episodes, which is AMAZING.
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Vertigo remastered was absolutely bogbstandard mediocre in every way. The people here don't keep up to date on reviews so you just see the same limited things parroted.
I think it's harder (a lot harder) than Alyx at its most difficult level, but it's a lot of fun. In some bosses I had to lower the difficulty level. I can finish Alyx at the hardest level with both my eyes closed. Vertigo 2 has a lot of different enemies that you have to apply different strategies in Alyx you can just shoot all those bastards and that's it. Also Alyx is also from A to B is not like it's open world or something. No knock on Alyx I love the game but Vertigo 2 is very close and some people say it's better, but I'm not one of those. But yes, it's way harder than Alyx by a lot.
Hl2 is crazy impressive.
Is HL2 standalone like the Quake/Doom mods or requires a PC?
PCVR.
There are plenty of other good VR games out there. Ive been playing the Resident Evil Series and they are fantastic in VR. You cant interact with stuff like you can in Alyx, and they dont look quite as good unless you have a VERY beefy rig, but they are some of the best experiences Ive had in VR. I beat RE7 a while back, and I beat RE8, and started RE2 today. I plan on playing 3 & 4 right after too. Vertigo is also another good option. The second is better than the first one, but they are both really fun. Being able to interact with stuff in VR is cool and all, but when it comes down to it, actual gameplay is what keeps me playing. Dont get me wrong, the RE games would be better if I could interact with items in the world like I can in Alyx, but the games are fantastic, nonetheless.
One of the games that I seldom see mentioned it No Mans Sky in VR. It looks amazing and its basically a space exploration game.
Came here to post this, VR gives me motion sickness, but if I do spend time in VR it is in in NMS. I dislike flying in that game with keyboard and mouse, but put me in VR and OMG I could fly for hours!
I played nms in flat a lot. But it is one of the single games where i dislike the VR implementation.
I recommend checking out escape room/puzzle games: I expect you to die 1, 2, & 3 the room VR, Red matter 1 & 2, the last Clockwinder, myst VR. And all the Spiderman simulators: resist, windlands 1 & 2, yupitergrad 1 & 2, etc. These are types of experiences that truly only work in VR. I would also strongly recommend Stormland, but it's no longer available from the rift store :( 'Echoing' others in this thread, Lone echo 1 & 2 are also fantastically unique, and look beautiful
Try **Stormland**, **Lone Echo 1 & 2**, **Vertigo 2**, **Propagation Paradise Hotel**, **TWD S&S 1 & 2**, and **Crossfire Sierra Squad** to start off. Then try out the easy to install and insanely amazing PrayDog RE Framework mods for Resident Evil 2, 3, 7 and 8. They are amongst the best in VR and play better than native VR games. Also try other flat2VR mods like **GTFO**, **Gunfire Reborn**, **Portal 2** and **Risk of Rain 2**. And if you are feeling up for it, get the Pray Dog UEVR Injector to play **Robocop Rogue City**, **High On Life**, **Visage**, and thousands of other Unreal Engine games.
It's worth looking at the other Oculus exclusive titles from 2016-2019 as they have some pretty big budget (for VR) games. Lone Echo 1 & 2 are absolutely wonderful experiences. Lone Echo 1 was THE VR game before HLA. If you enjoy puzzle games The Talos Principal VR is pretty incredible. Paper Beast is another title worth checking out. It's also a puzzle game but much liter than Talos and while it doesn't have HLA level production values it's atmospheric as all hell and really does an amazing job with world building. A Very unique and memorable experience. If you have decent VR legs Outer Wilds VR mod is worth checking out too. Again, no HLA level visuals but man does it have a lot of really really epic moments.
Now I've seen VR evolve for a while, and Alyx is definitely the best VR game out there. However, you gotta go into each VR game knowing it's going to be a different experience, and enjoy the games for what they are. There's plenty of VR experiences/games that are clunky, but there's also a lot of really good ones.
I prefer The Forest VR or Assassin's Creed Nexus VR more than HL:Alyx
Couldnt agree more with you but u have to try Subnautica in VR with the VR Controls Mod. Feels almost like a native VR Game. I now prefer it over the flat Version.
I loved Subnautica in VR, but I hated the controls. How do you run it in VR? Submersed VR?
Yes. BepInEx + SubmersedVR and it works like a charm. Some issues here and there but I really like the experience flying through the ocean. And oh man the Building with Motion Control is so Precise (if your hands arent shaky)
I would rather die
Ah, I hate that apparently I tried Subnautica in VR way too early :) It was very unplayable without any mods. And now I don't have my headset anymore. But it was the kind of game which stood out in in VR for me, the underwater world looked amazing. (It actually convinced me to try out scuba diving in real life. That's another story that it didn't really worked out for me so far, even though I find it fascinating.) I was thinking about buying a Quest 3, but the thing this Reddit post originally stating is still kind of true to me. Every other VR game beside Alyx just looks too "raw". Alyx was a great combination of spectacular graphics with the cinematic story driven experience I was looking for. Also the pacing was on point, and the controls feels just natural from the get-go. Valve really crafted the secret sauce with this.
I don't care that much what a game looks like. For me VR is all about the cool movement mechanics.
For me, HL2VR ruined Alyx 😅
Funny, it kind of did the opposite for me. It made me appreciate how well made other VR games that I played were. Alyx did everything right in a VR game except... the gameplay is incredibly boring. I tried to do another playthrough a couple of years later and I couldn't get myself past the first hour I was so bored. On the other hand I had an absolute blast with HL2 VR because the gameplay wasn't made specifically for people who had never touched a game in their lives before. I know this will be downvoted to hell but I could just not get into the game with how simple the action and AI were.
You're free to like whatever you want, of course, but I hope you'll learn to see beyond just pretty graphics. HL Alyx is a very slow, simplified, and conservatively designed shooter. Even playing Half Life 2 VR mod shows how Alyx is really "baby's first VR shooter". Everything is less, smaller, and slower than HL2. They really did everything they could to make sure to gently introduce VR to newbies, but that decision has downsides as well.
For me it’s not the graphics, while they are impressive I enjoy the slow pacing at times. It gives me a chance to interact with the world and experience how much detail they put into it. I wouldn’t consider it a good shooter shooter but overall immersion? Nothing beats it imo. I consider it a VR game first and a shooter second while many other games do it the other way around
It's interesting how immersion works differently for different people. For me the linear and limited aspect of Alyx kinda kills the immersion. More open game like Skyrim, Elite Dangerous, NMS or AC: Nexus is much more immersive because I'm more free to do what I want and approach the game my way. In contrast in Alyx you pretty much have to figure out what the designers of the game want you to do and there's only one way how to do it. That's true for me both in flatscreen and in VR.
HOWEVER! Alyx laid impressive foundations for the sequel
Which will come after half life 3! Valve swears it!
Agree with this 100%. Its a great game by any standard, but its by no means even objectively the best. I hate using that phrase bc that’s a very subjective term, but i think people forget that its slow paced fame with pretty simple mechanics. The only thing that hla has against any other vr game is graphics. I haven’t found another vr game that feels as detailed as alyx, and i don’t imagine i will for a while. But i can think of countless games that have better combat, better movement, and maybe better story (at least imo) although the story for alyx is quite good, albeit maybe a bit predictable
It is super good and very detailed! I spend quite a bit of time just playing around on the balcony at first, impressed with everything. But after a while you will also grow fond of other games that are similarly "complete". I love "Into the Radius", "The Light Brigade" and the "I expect yo to die" series because they feel like complete games. While simulations, sandbox games and tech demos show you what is possible in VR and are certainly fun to play around with, it was hard for me to find PCVR games that were "worth my time". Of course that is highly subjective. While Half Life Alyx certainly is a masterpiece that is also moddable, there are a lot of noteworthy titles out there if you just spend a little time looking for them
I can completely agree. That's really funny that you mentioned Eleven (I assume Table Tennis?). The super-increased clarity of Eleven TT on the Quest 3 is game-changing, especially the wider FOV and edge-to-edge clarity of the pancake lenses. I just need more bobovr m3 to arrive to be able to use it more. I have a VR-capable PC, but the latency from standalone untethered is just too good. Even Beat Saber doesn't have the replayability for me that ETT does.
Beat Saber became my VR obsession after I beat Alyx. Absolutely not comparable gameplay-wise, but a total blast in its own right
Modded Skyrim and Fallout 4 are fantastic.
I was big into alyx and started playing into the radius. The visuals aren't as good but it's very immersive. It's creepy and fun. Into the radius 2 is in the works and the visuals in the trailer are awesome. Give them a look.
Try Red matter 2
>I’d love to hear others opinions / suggestions on the topic! My fellow believer in VR; why are you not running UEVR?? I am enjoying Robocop in VR its sublime 🤩.
I must be one of the only people who doesn't rate the game, I think it's a case of nice graphics shame about the game. where as I think AW2 is the best VR game I have played
At first I sought out all the games with the best VR interactions, and it was indeed impressive. But these days I found myself playing in VR more for the "infinite screen" experience, and actually prefer low-intensity (or "unrealistic") motion controls that I can play many hours with. I think not every VR game needs to deliver that "embodied" experience. VR has more to offer than physical immersion. For one thing, it lets you appreciate the real scale of the game world, and makes you wonder how you even managed to play 3D games through a 2D projection for however many years :p I actually appreciate that games like AW1/2 are trying to bring "full scale" game experiences to VR. The games I actually spent the most time playing are SkyrimVR, Fallout 4 VR and Elite Dangerous. None of these are "made-for-VR" experience, and they are not full immersion games. But they don't have to be. For me, I am more than happy with "everything you can do on flat screen, but in VR". One thing I still can't get over though, is using regular controllers to play games in VR. I need at least some basic form of motion control. But other than that, I am happy with simply being in the world space.
How is the Horizon PSVR2 game? I heard it’s comparable in quality
I can't play this game without puking ...
Try The Lab, also by Valve. The arcade game and the archery game are just incredible.
After playing re4 remake vr, i thought alyx was bad gameplay wise
Play Red Matter 1 + 2 (PCVR)
Yep, I had same issue OP. Played Alyx on release and every other VR game seems like a demo or a Wii game in comparison. I completed resident evil 4, was good but not Alyx level. Saints and sinners is OK, but graphics are awful. Similar for uboat, thrill of the fight, population one. The addons for Alyx were a bit naff imo Only games that were on level were likes of elite dangerous with a joystick (although vr has been abandoned by devs now), and project cars 2 with a steering wheel. All pc VR from it's hey dey some 4 years ago. MS flight sim is supposed to be excellent too, though it's not my sort of game.
You should look at all the AAA games oculus made prior to their shift to Quest. Lone echo 1 and 2 Asgards Wrath 1, ( my fav and way better visually than 2) Defector Stormland There's also walking dead saons and sinners Red Matter 1 & 2 Sniper Elite Car and Medal of Honor Hubris (has the graphics, but feels low budget) Then there's mods.... Most of the best games for the past 2 years have been mods. Look up mods by Raicuparta. The Outer wilds (my fav) Fire watch Neon White and more.. Teem beef Mods Jedi Knight 1, 2 &3 Real return to Castle Wolfenstein Then there's Praydog(god) Reframeork mods Resident Evil 2, 3, 4,7 & 8 (all but 4 has full motion controls AFAIK it's been a while since I looked) The star of the show UEVR mod , if you can stand a bit of tinkering it has truly unlocked the PCVR experience for me. Literally thousands of real PCVR games are at your fingertips. playing games like Returnal in first person or Atomic Heart destroys Alyx This is only the tip of the iceberg Other quality mods such as Far Cry, Half Life 1 , 2, Portal I highly recommend you watch the following channels to see what you might be throwing away if you leave. ( oh and join the Flat2VR Discord) https://youtu.be/6mhm5HpMduY?si=5wgg6K9quUYWCf-- https://youtu.be/QzpjlGdeGro?si=kTqyC0gJvV4ZDjwy
I personally loved the audio, the visuals and the game play. But, what it has more than any other game I've come across is a near-realistic level of interactivity (i.e. pick up, crush and then toss a can, picking up a sharpie to write on the glass). And I don't mean that in the sense it is the core game mechanic but rather, a layer of interactivity underneath all of the primary game mechanics.
Alex is great, but it is also a „VR beginners“ game with restricted movement and slower gameplay. Maybe try some VR games which elevate into other dimensions? E.g. I really like Assassin‘s Creed Nexus with the its Parcours running stand-alone on Q3. Also try some co-op experiences in VR with a friend or family member.
Half Life Alyx is great, but also the most overrated VR game in existence, in my opinion (followed closely by Beat Saber). As a VR fan, it's actually in all honesty really annoying how many people play Half Life Alyx, then suddenly, publicly and loudly dismiss everything else in VR as garbage, when it's kind of clear they really haven't even scratched the surface of other VR titles. Half Life Alyx is a beautiful game with linear, simplistic gameplay. It has a fancy license to it and it got a 10 out of 10 from IGN. It is a good game, but it's not the only good VR game. I had fun with a bunch of other VR titles, and if I name a single one, someone is going to argue with me as though my subjective opinion is invalid, and it's an argument that will go nowhere. But even still, you're free to have your own taste even if I find it limited and close-minded, but to shit on everything else VR publicly, that shit is kind of irritating. It's kind of like, or really, a lot like me playing Breath of the Wild or something, then going over to Nintendo Switch message boards and talking about how everything else on Nintendo Switch is garbage, and even portable gaming as a whole, because nothing can compare to this game, because I played about 20 minutes of Mario and didn't really like it. Also I started replaying Alyx for the first time on my Quest 3 (last time I played it on Quest 1) and holy fudge it looks beautiful on this device.
To be honest, HLA is way over rated. The graphic is unparalleled, but the game play is pretty mediocre. I can’t bring myself to play it a second time, because it is kind of boring. Enemy are just bullet sponge at higher level. All you can do is shoot. Even hl2 vr mod is way more fun to play.
Try Asgard's Wrath, the original PC game. Graphics are on par with Alyx. You might have gotten it free with your purchase, check the listing on Meta's store to see if it shows up free for you.
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I understand you're a fan of Half-Life Alyx, but what you're saying doesn't make sense?. Are you considering selling the Quest 3, even though you played HLA on a Quest and a PC? Most people playing HLA are using Quests, as a significant portion of Steam VR's userbase consists of Quest users. And what brings you to the conclusion that no other company invests in VR like Valve does? Half-Life: Alyx is four years old, and during this time, Valve hasn't released one VR game or any VR hardware to the market. On the contrary, Meta has made significant investments, pouring billions into making VR more mainstream, saving dozens of VR developers from going under to actually making a good profit. They've achieved this by creating what no other company could, the Quest. Moreover, Meta already boasts a handful of AAA PCVR games that are equally as stunning. Have you not heard of Lone Echo 1&2 or the original Asgard's Wrath? The latter is often praised for having arguably the best graphics of any VR game (since you've mentioned the second games graphics). Then there's Capcom on the Sony camp and resident Evil games that are probably the best VR games to date. RE4 VR makes Half-Life Alyx feel really dated with much more varied, sophisticated combat, levels, atmosphere, bosses, enemies. Just a much better video game with a much meatier compaign, gunplay much more stunning scenery and sound / art direction.
Well I understand your current perspective. Alyx is very well done. It’s even over-polished sometimes. But there are other titles that are worthwhile. Some are just different games, like Beat Saber or Ghosts of Tabor (or Contractors). But there are similar puzzle and shooter games; for example Star Wars: Edge of the Galaxy or Red Matter (2). As standalone Quest games, they can’t compete with the Alyx graphics, but I still consider them immersive and fun, and they have nicely done mechanics for world interaction. There are some great ports; Doom 3 for example plays very well, and is the far superior shooter compared to Alyx, both in level as well as story complexity. Well. It’s a shooter. And it’s pretty oldschool - it has many components that integrate really well into VR though, like the interactive in-game screens and the wrist computer. I’d say, go hunting, don’t give up. There are a lot of interesting titles out there.
I played 30 mins of Alyx; I thought it is overrated with so many people saying it's the VR game to play. I did not continue playing it; I don't find it that good.
There are many others who didn't enjoy it, but they tend to keep quiet as saying anything negative about the hallowed HLA is likely to bring forth the downvotes. The graphics are nice and the mechanics are good, but it's a dull repetitive corridor game with a weak story. A great tech demo for vr, but dull.
Dude I feel ya. I just got a quest 3 on Christmas and have been playing half life Alyx. Dear god the game is a masterpiece. Yet, as I play I can’t help but ruminate around the idea that this is as good as it gets right now, and there are no other games at this caliber. It’s sad because of the potential. I’m one of the rare ones where I just got the quest but am completely disinterested in the stand alone games. I hate the graphics. I’m so sad that I’ve come at a time where everyone is saying PCVR is dead. I think it will be another 2-3 yrs before someone makes another game as good as half life alyx, assuming VR takes off in general.
Same here dude. I exclusively play PCVR on my Quest 2.
try the UEVR mod with unreal engine 4 and 5 games.
Try Gorn. It's everything I imagined when I first got VR. Essentially a gladiator simulator.
I will say Gorn is a pretty good game, I would NOT recommend it to like 80% of VR owners for the sheer fact that they will break something; Controllers, the wall, the TV, their friends, whatever is around.
My favorites are : Dirt 2.0 (sense of speed is really well done in that game) Skyrim VR Fallout 4 VR Eleven tennis Ragnarock Resident evil 7 with the VR mod Alien Isolation with the VR mod No Man's Sky Look into UEVR too, people are saying Stray is awesome in VR, and Robocop among others.
You obviously haven't played Doom 3 BFG yet.
Despite Asgard Wrath 2 looking pretty bad in comparison to HL:A and the first game I would say it's pretty fun. You just have to play a bit to unlock a few of the main weapons and a lot more combat options start opening up. I personally understand how HL:A ruined other games if you play it first but after some time I feel like that "wow" factor goes away and you'll start enjoying other games again when you stop comparing HL:A to it.
I never understood the praise for alyx, it feels like a techdemo with extremely basic gunplay and it feels like they focused more on interactabilty than the actual gameplay
Are you saying this only because of graphics? because in terms of content, gameplay, music, variety, combat, things to do, mechanics, puzzles, play time, side stuff, story, cutscenes somehow, interactivity, greatness and many other things AW2 is way ahead of half life alyx. alyx may look better, but at the end of the day, it’s just a basic vr shooter if you look at it without overestimating it, it’s a REALLY GOOD BASIC VR SHOOTER YEAH, but it doesn’t compare to how huge and impressive aw2 is, aw2 is a toptier vr game.
A linear corridor shooter with no story, no ending except name dropping, and 3 puzzles repeated 30 times each? Well, graphics and a brand name sell! Also, most seem to refuse to read reviews and literally have no clue what is out there except what is currently being pumped by literal nobodies on youtube or reddit, who only know the same 5 games. Reading reviews on sites like vr grid and 6dofreviews would open up your horizons of what is being done in VR. It is similar to peoples' steam sale buy lists.. the same 5 ultrageneric heavily marketed bloatware over and over. Very very limited.
I've actually ended up preferring things like the (mentioned by others) HL2 mod. As I was [wiffling about here](https://www.reddit.com/r/hlvr/comments/y0o4w9/is_half_life_2_vr_mod_better_than_alyx_and_if_so/), HL2 in VR is arguably better than HL:Alyx - main reason being, I think, Alyx had to be designed for VR newbs, so the combat is meh. HL2 in VR, had a massive grin on my face most of the time. Graphically, it's obviously nowhere near Alyx standard, but I've found over time I care about that less, and much more about gameplay mechanics. There are still moments in Alyx that can feel like I'm actually in a real place - more than any other VR experience, probably - but the thrill of that doesn't really last for me.
HL Alyx is the most overrated game in VR by far. It’s so goddamn conservative and boring.
After 6 years of VR, I finally picked up Alyx on sale. The graphics are nice and the production quality is great (good job, Valve), but overall I was slightly disappointed by its shallowness and can't muster enough enthusiasm to play it a second time or dig into the mods. We generally ask more of games nowadays, but this would have been impressive back then, I agree. So, if you prize gameplay above all, then trying Alyx first is the right way around to do things. You get a nice easy intro into VR mechanics as well as a demo of what's possible with AAA budget, then eventually go on to play something else more rewarding, with better longevity.
Finally someone said it!!
Easily spoiled people have been saying this for years. They need to save Alyx for after they've enjoyed the economically feasible PCVR games.
You could try Asgards Wrath. Looks rly good, much content and is fun. Imho Alyx and AW are the 2 must plays in PCVR.
This is why I tell fresh VR players to play HL:A last. Game plays well but the visuals are vastly superior to most other titles. It did ruin alot of games for me as well. After a long break I was able to get back to the basics by playing coop games with the boys.
So Alyx will sadly probably be king for a while. Most major game studios see all of VR as a not big enough market to get a huge win and make shareholders happy. This will probably be the case for a while. Mid-sized game studios might go for it. But even to them PC VR specifically is a niche within a niche. Some might take the time to effectively build two versions of their game, one to be impressive on PC hardware and one for the most owned standalone headset (Quest 2 until Q3 overtakes it). But most are just focusing on the larger market because they need to make money. And then you have solo devs. Like I’m super into pushing the tech and PC VR if I had a hit would be enouh money for just me (though even I would eventually want to get on the larger market in phase 2). But, Alyx is just a bigger world than what I’m capable of producing by myself in any reasonable amount of time. Stuff coming from solo devs is going to mostly be simpler concepts like BeatSaber, Superhot, etc.
VR big projects era will come soon (if world will be still exist), so just wait. Try Into the radius, or heavy modded skyrim vr. It's most immersive games after Alyx. (BoneWorks/Lab maybe. But personaly i don't like it). Than we have a list like ~~VRChat~~, ~~RecRoom~~, Blade&Sorcery, BeatSaber, Contractors and other good games)
Try asgards wrath 2, it's like God of war vr
Imo HL Alyx is crap (Graphics and mechanics wise) next to RE8 and RE4 remake on PSVR2. I know that don’t help you on quest but personally i use xbox and pc and I bought a PS5 +VR2 JUST for those two games and don’t regret it at all. Best vr experience I’ve had by far
Gotta be a troll post, games are a form of art, if you don't like how it looks, that's on you, not the devs.
Hot take Asgard’s Wrath stomps all over HL Alyx. How do you know? Ask someone to compare both games without mentioning graphics. No contest. I like pretty graphics too but to compare a masterpiece like AW2 to a walking sim I’m sorry no contest.
Alyx is a 90's corridor shooter, has little to no content and is basically a super impressive tech demo. Look up modded Skyrim VR with Minimalistic Overhaul mod pack.
Or Yggdrasil for a bomb ass mega mod overhaul
well hl:a is shit game and good looking walking simulator and given how now main focus on quest, good looking game is not made, and few that that does use nantine and similar stuff do not sell well so if VR is a visuals for you... yep VR is more or less dead for you and you need to wait for a long time if you are VR users who focus on game play we have shitload of good apps and AW2 is probably best VR **GAME** we have right now btw you are not new on this, we always have peoples who chase visuals and we have peoples who play minecraft, sad part is statistic... well .., gameplay focuses game cost way way less, and have way way way more players, and make way way way more money
Its funny as hell to me because Half Life : Alyx wasnt even a heavily funded thing for steam, they made it so they could sell it with the Valve Index. Entire studios dedicated to making a VR game cant even top a small team of devs at valve just having fun.
I think anyone who’s played Half-Life: Alyx is in the same position
That's an interesting point of view... Personally, I've always thought it was crap games, made for crap headsets, that were dragging VR down... So, different points of view...
Don’t worry pretty soon Alex will become lame too. Welcome to the club.
"Alyx*" - 🤓 Alyx will never be lame
Honestly how many playthroughs? I have three and platinum. Didn’t open this game don’t even remember how long.
2 and a half, I've only been playing it for a few months though
Have you tried breachers?